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Speaker 3: It is a magic city Monday, and man, I have

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Speaker 3: been out there in the parking lot since last night

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Speaker 3: after this NFL Sunday, and you're welcome in my co hosts.

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Speaker 3: You use your sheet to wipe itself, as is kelvin Washington.

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Speaker 2: What up?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 3: What did I tell you? What did I text you

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Speaker 3: guys yesterday that you're already here and that you needed things?

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Speaker 3: And I think you had things. Rob g knows I

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Speaker 3: was serious to write. I said I was officially out

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Speaker 3: of baby oil last night.

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Speaker 4: Clearly we know.

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Speaker 1: And you're trying to ruin my good game going experience.

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Speaker 1: Let me know how excited you were. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to know you like that.

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Speaker 3: It was, man, so many different things to talk about. Wow, Wow, Sunday,

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Speaker 3: wasn't it?

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Speaker 1: It?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 3: It really was? And the thing that I guess. You know,

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Speaker 3: we talk about a lot of stuff on here, and

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna rub it in and tell you.

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Speaker 4: I told you so.

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Speaker 3: But I told you so.

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Speaker 4: Well, I know.

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Speaker 3: Rob Je was like, please, I know. We don't want

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Speaker 3: to say that the Chiefs would be eliminated. Okay, you

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Speaker 3: can get that one, right, Okay, that the Lions would

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Speaker 3: lose and that they won't make the playoffs and now

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Speaker 3: they stay out there. But it is scarce, lie, Okay,

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Speaker 3: it shook it big time. Riverstows that pick at the

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Speaker 3: end of the game, right, they lose, and I don't

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Speaker 3: care what anybody says, Oh well, he's forty four, he

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Speaker 3: looked at But no, no, no, Seattle had six field

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Speaker 3: that game. No, no, no, that's a bad loss for

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Speaker 3: the I don't care what anybody tries to sell you

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Speaker 3: on that, So I'm not having it. Shador has the

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Speaker 3: three interceptions. Didn't play well?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Can you say that did not play well? And the

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Speaker 3: Ravens went big. Expect them to lose, but that was

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Speaker 3: a big game, just the way that they played and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: And then last but not least, Matthew Stafford to me

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Speaker 3: dropped in the MVP race because Josh Allen turned in

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Speaker 3: another that's like three performances. But this is the last thing.

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Speaker 3: I want to say this though real quick, and I

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Speaker 3: know people, you know I'm dead serious about this. You

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Speaker 3: probably heard a lot of radio today and a lot

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Speaker 3: all this other stuff. But anybody can do reactionary radio,

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Speaker 3: anybody after the fact, and that that's what I think

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Speaker 3: we pride ourselves on this show is giving you some inside.

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Speaker 3: That's why you listen to the Odd Couple. You know,

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Speaker 3: there was things that went on in the games on

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Speaker 3: Rob said them that I have people tweet me tell me,

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Speaker 3: about because you heard it here. We talk about these things.

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Speaker 3: If we didn't talk about it just when they started

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Speaker 3: losing Kelvin this was last year, am I right when

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Speaker 3: they were winning all the games. I was telling you

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Speaker 3: about some of this stuff. But anyway, make sure you

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Speaker 3: insight and not just react to when things happen good

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Speaker 3: do here. All right, let's do this, rob G. I

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Speaker 3: know everybody's talking about Patrick Mahomes and oh he's Tom

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Speaker 3: bad on Patrick Mahomes. That's just to lose, but not

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Speaker 3: him the person for him to be injured. No, I

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Speaker 5: Well, they're making that comparison for good reason, rob because

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Speaker 5: just for context, we mentioned yester Patrick Mahomes suffered the torn

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Speaker 3: Even though all these analysts were on TV talking about

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Speaker 5: Expected recovery timeline is nine to twelve months, so his

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Speaker 5: the exact same thing time in.

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Speaker 4: His career as Patrick Mahomes did.

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Speaker 5: Start number one eleven for Tom Brady, start number one

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Speaker 5: twenty six pats for Home, both of them in their

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Speaker 4: With Tom Brady.

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Speaker 3: Oh, here's the difference. There is no comparison. I sit

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Speaker 3: here very confidently confidently today in saying that Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: scenario that we saw and went nine years. Remember, there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of things here with the Chiefs that I'm

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Speaker 3: not buying. Okay, to make it equal, ay, Bill Belichick

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Speaker 3: wasn't going anywhere when that happened. Andy Weed sixty eight

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying the funniest thing. You know, people feel

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Speaker 1: like voodoo on somebody. You put pork chops on.

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Speaker 3: People just say it a Hall of Fame tight end

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Speaker 3: And then Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady wasn't going down in

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Speaker 3: his skill set or his numbers. Go Look, Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: has regressed for two years. And have you looked at

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Speaker 3: he put right? Would you say that he's put Patrick Mahomes, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was never spo no, no, no, But but I'm

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Speaker 3: just saying so I'm not buying that. This is the

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Speaker 3: same scenario and they're gonna have a break and they

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Speaker 3: the cheating. Are they gonna cheat like the Patriots so

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Speaker 3: they could lose their coach Hall of Fame tight end?

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes has regressed the last two years, and are

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Speaker 3: they going to revert to cheating which is what save

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady, Bill Belichick and the Patriots. I'm out on

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Speaker 1: First I will say, you called the Chiefs not making

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Speaker 4: I'll give you that on that.

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Speaker 1: The reason why I don't think I didn't think they

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Speaker 1: not be one in seven in those, right, So you

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Speaker 1: of everything for them. They're in the postseason. They're not

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Speaker 4: So I didn't see that coming.

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Speaker 1: Here's where I disagree with you, and I think they

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Speaker 1: how that works out. I do agree, Andy Reed. What

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Speaker 1: Let me find that second win? Is this so I'm

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Speaker 1: all about saying we've had a great run, whether it's

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Speaker 1: hey man, we had a heck of a run. We

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Speaker 1: glad you brought you in. It worked out. Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: don't think it happens immediately, but the next year or two,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens there. Travis Kelce, Obviously, go ahead, bro,

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Speaker 1: it's time to retire. Go ahead and live a good life.

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Speaker 1: You've got a good life ahead and marry, get pregnant.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, live your life. I'm sure you'll be in movies,

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Speaker 1: Now the question be comes. Will the Patrick Mahomes era

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots. Will they win three and five? You

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Speaker 1: the nineties? Have stars? We remember them, We think of

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Speaker 1: them finally, all man, the Cowboys of the nineties were

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Speaker 1: will they be more like the patri Get that eight

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Speaker 1: But you're doing knowledge cheating part oh without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: You're filming stuff, you got defense, nobody else he's got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're doing for without a doubt.

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Speaker 1: And I thought about it because I talked too about

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Speaker 4: And you know what I came up with.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna end up he being Patrick Mahomes be more

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Speaker 1: like John Elway, I think, meaning he won't go to four, five,

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Speaker 1: he get more players? Can he get his DeVante Adams?

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Speaker 1: Can he get the big name guys? Can they get

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Speaker 1: to rely on him? If you look at a guy

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Speaker 1: like Peyton Manning was putting up crazy historic numbers for years.

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning had Edrin James, Reggie Wayne, he had Marvin Harrison,

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Speaker 1: bunch of great guys in their prime, Ken Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: for maybe two three years, flowing around a little bit.

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Speaker 1: you know, he's making a John Alwell like where I

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning with the Broncos point being, guys can get

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Speaker 1: That's what I think is gonna happen. I agree it

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Speaker 1: Ram's got some fans. Now when y'all winning, it ain't

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you guys talked about it.

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Speaker 5: The MVP race scene up in Matthew Stafford, who's been

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Speaker 5: Matthew Stafford, surprise, surprise, supplanted himself once again as the

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Speaker 3: If he has a stinker in that game, that could

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Speaker 4: Rob I watched that game.

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Speaker 1: I was there, obviously, and I just saw Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: And now he ended up throwing up with some other touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: To me, that's the winning thing. He would have won

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Speaker 3: Well, if he loses, you he's not the MVP.

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Speaker 1: Now. I gotta see everything plays out. But that to

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people would enjoy that storyline.

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Speaker 1: Look at the old man, the old gunslinger, having his

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Speaker 3: Still Matthew Stafford lost the MVP yesterday. He is not

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Speaker 3: The Lions have given up one three hundred and seventy

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Speaker 3: Opposing quarterbacks have thrown for at least three hundred and

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Speaker 3: he didn't do anything special. He's doing what everybody has

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Speaker 3: He brought them back. And Week one, can we forget?

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Speaker 3: In those three games of the year, Are you ready? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Tom Brady had bigger numbers. Tom Brady had five thousand,

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Speaker 3: They beat the forty nine ers in San Francisco with

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Speaker 3: kicked the field goal. That's what people look at. When

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Speaker 3: did you win? What kind of wins did you have?

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Speaker 3: Yesterday was a win for the Ages down twenty one

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Speaker 3: Look how great they are. How they win that game?

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen, that's an MVP. He didn't have one great game.

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Speaker 3: He had three and we saw it before when Lamar

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Speaker 3: who won the mv I just said, last night's game

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Speaker 3: two in a row where you're down and you're out,

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Speaker 3: look at these incredible comebacks, and it's him. You keep

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Speaker 3: saying it all the time, Matthew Stafford has. It's loaded

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Speaker 3: with telling pooka canoe a whatever his name?

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Speaker 4: Man, if you don't stop it by canoeing down the river,

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Speaker 4: po pookah what his name? And Philip Rivers You got

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Speaker 3: You got all right, Pooka whatever, Nicoua, Nicoula, Pooka nowicula

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Speaker 3: whatever the YouTube that's right, Davante Adams. I could go

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Speaker 3: on and on on that he has all these weapons.

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Speaker 3: Yes he should he should be rolling. Are you kidding?

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Speaker 3: You're not doing it with lunch Meet, doing it with

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Speaker 3: file at is this lunch meet?

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Speaker 4: You know how many other MVPs was for laid Up?

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Speaker 1: You know how many other m vps at fil A

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Speaker 1: lobster and scripts scrimps. But I'm telling you that Josh

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Speaker 1: a factor. For anytime you're an MVP any sport, it

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Speaker 3: Give a MVP to a thirty seven year old who's

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Speaker 4: More sense to me. It doesn't happen.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that doesn't hide. That's what what I'm saying

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Speaker 3: if Seattle had a nerd almost lose to the Colts

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Speaker 1: Thirty seven touchdowns to five interception. I know it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: A couple other things. You got some bad losses. You

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Speaker 1: You don't everybody. But but again, when we talk about this,

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Speaker 1: he bought out the rest of the game, So you

436
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Speaker 1: got a nitpick. And that's what I have to do

437
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Speaker 1: with Josh Allen right now. And also he had some

438
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Speaker 1: middling games this season where he was all right, wasn't great,

439
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Speaker 1: like I told you, wasn't great against the Falcons, had

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Speaker 1: a couple of games where you know this, yeah, wasn't

441
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Speaker 1: anything spectacular. So to me, I think there were too

442
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Speaker 1: many games where Josh Allen was just there. And now

443
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Speaker 1: he's hiring to have some good ones. He is incredible,

444
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: good to great, He is incredible. He is the reigning MVP.

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Speaker 1: But I think what Matthew Stafford has been doing has

446
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Speaker 1: been spectacular. You add to the fact that he is

447
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Speaker 1: thirty seven. I think that plays into his favor. I

448
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: think it plays into his favor that people have been

449
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Speaker 1: wanting to crown him but not having the reason two

450
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Speaker 1: other resources to right, they couldn't.

451
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Speaker 3: They could have crown him a long time ago, seven

452
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Speaker 3: years old. We got two now to Pro Bowls. That's

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Speaker 3: my point this.

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Speaker 1: We're not asking who going to the Hall of Fame, Rob,

455
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Speaker 1: We're asking who's the MVP of twenty twenty five.

456
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Speaker 3: I'm just telling you now, their three games are better

457
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Speaker 3: than any of the game Stafford had.

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Speaker 1: He has the mayriage it Josh Allen down twenty one

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Speaker 1: nothing that ain't Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 4: Fod He ain't getting down twenty one nothing. And again,

461
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Speaker 4: when it's about.

462
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Speaker 3: About getting down, it's about coming back and winning the game,

463
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Speaker 3: you know. But I can't come back if I ain't

464
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Speaker 3: getting down it like that. I'm just telling you that's

465
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Speaker 3: what people look at, and I think they're going to

466
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Speaker 3: look at look at what he's doing. His best season ever.

467
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Speaker 1: He's had good seasons, two great seasons before Matthew Stafford.

468
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Speaker 1: Now he's doing it with thirty seven touchdown five except

469
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Speaker 1: at thirty seven and could win the division and win

470
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Speaker 1: the conference.

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Speaker 3: What a story, What a sendoff? If this is it

472
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Speaker 3: for it would be the worst thing. If stat pad

473
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Speaker 3: for won an MVP.

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Speaker 4: You can't call him that distion. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple

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Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm

477
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Speaker 2: Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the

478
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Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: This is my football season of domination of you. We'll

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Speaker 3: still I got one on baking on. There's a couple.

481
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Speaker 3: There's a couple of things here. I got a couple.

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Speaker 3: I'm still in it.

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Speaker 2: One.

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Speaker 4: I feel really good about this. The Steelers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you said that they wouldn't win eight games?

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Speaker 4: You can do?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 1: You keep changing this. You said I said they would

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Speaker 1: not win. First of all, I said they wouldn't make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Secondly, then you try to no, no, no, But the bet

492
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Speaker 3: was about the win toys and you said eight.

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Speaker 4: Now did not say eight?

494
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Speaker 3: How many?

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Speaker 4: Did he say nine?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: He did not, and he said nine because I tried

498
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Speaker 1: to My point was actually ten. But you said you've

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Speaker 1: tried to make it.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, Okay, So we got that bet, we

501
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Speaker 3: got the lie, and I think that's we have. We

502
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Speaker 3: got a couple others. I think now I'm trying to

503
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Speaker 3: look at you. What else you want to make? We

504
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Speaker 3: get some you got?

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Speaker 4: You got?

506
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Speaker 3: What else? You got?

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Speaker 4: What else? What else is out there?

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Speaker 3: Rob?

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Speaker 4: G think about? So we'll think about something else. All right?

510
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Speaker 5: Well, speaking of bets, me and Rob made a bet

511
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Speaker 5: on Friday. You won't hear, Calvin, but it's a good one.

512
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Speaker 5: This rest of season. Passer rating Okay, Caleb Williams versus

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Speaker 5: Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 4: I got Philip, He's got killed, right. That is funny.

515
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Speaker 3: It's it's that is actually interesting because Caleb numbers might

516
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Speaker 3: be you know, he might have, yeah, his numbers ten

517
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Speaker 3: yards a game or something bigger.

518
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Speaker 4: But when you know the percept that stuff.

519
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Speaker 5: So I was looking really good yesterday until the very

520
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Speaker 5: end of the game and a hail mary attempts to

521
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Speaker 5: try to salvage a win there for Indianapolis.

522
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Speaker 4: They end up losing on the road to Seattle.

523
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Speaker 5: Philip Rivers throws a hail mary attempt that didn't even

524
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Speaker 5: get to midfield, intercepted obviously. In the game, one touchdown,

525
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Speaker 5: one pick, one hundred and twenty passing yards. Even still,

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Speaker 5: after that loss, Colts head coach Shane Steichen says Philip

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Speaker 5: Rivers will be the starter next week, and according to him,

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Speaker 5: as long as he's upright, Philip Rivers will be the

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Speaker 5: Colts QB one rest of the season.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this since you got to say, I

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Speaker 3: hope the Colts lose every game and don't make the playoffs.

532
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Speaker 3: For this chicanery, this mockery of the game, I'm sorry,

533
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Speaker 3: And yesterday was a perfect example of had you had

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Speaker 3: just a decent quarterback, not an old man, not a

535
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Speaker 3: grandpa playing. You might have won that game. And that

536
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 3: was a big game to win when your defense plays

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Speaker 3: that well. And I don't want to hear any bout

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Speaker 3: oh he gave them agenda win. Do they say the

539
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Speaker 3: other game a chance to win?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no no. Why do they bring Philip Rivers

542
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Speaker 3: in for a chance to win?

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Speaker 2: Yes, to win?

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Speaker 3: To win? You hold Seattle to no touchdowns at home

545
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: kelvin zero zero, and you don't win that game. I'm sorry, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: that's not good enough. And I just think to take

547
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: and again, this is the cronyism. If it was anybody

548
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Speaker 3: else who was forty four and hadn't played in five years,

549
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Speaker 3: you think that they would be on the on the roster,

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Speaker 3: on the coach roster. Anybody else, No, nobody else.

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Speaker 1: We talked about that, just with TJ. I mean, the

552
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Speaker 1: quarterback is the only position that might even have a chance.

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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying this is because of the relationship,

554
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Speaker 3: not because Philip Rivers is gonna win something for you.

555
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Speaker 3: It's just it's so bad. And I wasn't surprised that

556
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 3: they didn't get much going. I know he threw the

557
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Speaker 3: one touchdown, but my goodness, gracious man, they should have

558
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Speaker 3: won that game. They needed to win that game. And

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Speaker 3: now considering where they started Daniel Jones, who I didn't

560
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Speaker 3: buy into, and then all of a sudden, once they

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Speaker 3: stopped playing the cupcake schedule, they started losing on a

562
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Speaker 3: regular right. That was already happening before the injury. And

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Speaker 3: now they bring in old man rivers. I'm not surprised

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Speaker 3: where they are.

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Speaker 1: Old man rivers are a couple things for me to happen.

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Speaker 1: Number one, I just saw it and I was like, hey,

567
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Speaker 1: you know, he was like and it reminded me of

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Speaker 1: he's still like he was with the Chargers right there,

569
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Speaker 1: things going on. I can't win it, can't win it,

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Speaker 1: And obviously he had a heck of a career to

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Speaker 1: charge with. What I mean is when you kind of

572
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: needed on the team, when the team needed to do it,

573
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Speaker 1: they couldn't get it done. And to me, that was

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Speaker 1: almost like a car, a forty five, forty four year

575
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Speaker 1: old carbon copy of the Chargers staying in it found

576
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Speaker 1: a way to be right there in a big game

577
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Speaker 1: in the postseason, couldn't get it done. So to me,

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Speaker 1: I was, oh, old man. River is the same river

579
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: still flowing. Reminded me that also. I was looking at

580
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, like, what is going on here that a

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Speaker 1: forty four year old man comes in here hadn't played

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Speaker 1: in five years, Rob, that's not even like usually.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you round things up.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's only two and a half, three, no,

585
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 1: five years, he hadn't played football, and all of.

586
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Speaker 4: A sudden he's staying in the game.

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Speaker 1: He goes down, get a last second, you know, gets

588
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Speaker 1: a field goal, got a chance to win the game.

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00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: Obviously they come down the Seahawks and finally win it. Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: I thought y'all were the number two defense, the number

591
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Speaker 1: one defense overall, number two points allowed, rushing yards of six,

592
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Speaker 1: number one, all these huge categories for defensively. I thought

593
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Speaker 1: you would be able to get after him, get some interceptions,

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Speaker 1: get some fumbles, get more sacks. Like I thought, that's

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Speaker 1: what the Seahawks are gonna do. But we're going to

596
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Speaker 1: feast on him. When was the quarterback though you can't

597
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Speaker 1: get in the end zone. I'm getting it, I know it.

598
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Speaker 3: And there's there's my thing I keep telling you about

599
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 3: Sam Donald that bothers me.

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Speaker 1: And Sam Donald to me on the flip side of this,

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Speaker 1: the Colts have been a solid to a good team

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Speaker 1: throughout the year. What they're not is they're not the

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Speaker 1: best team defensively. Any idea that they got a guy

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Speaker 1: who isn't scoring and y'all couldn't find a way to

605
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Speaker 1: score in the Seahawks. And again you couldn't get after

606
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Speaker 1: him and torture him and make life hell for him.

607
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: It wasn't that bad for Philip Rivers to be honest

608
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Speaker 1: with you, like he just he was, like he was okay,

609
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Speaker 1: and he had a couple of passes there. Now obviously

610
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: he was checked down, Charlie, But I thought the Seahawks

611
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: would make it a living hell. We've seen them do

612
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Speaker 1: that to better teams, better quarterbacks. And I walked away

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Speaker 1: from that a little disappointing them that again that he

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Speaker 1: d he can't run. He could't run, and he was

615
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Speaker 1: in his prime, so you couldn't get him off of

616
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Speaker 1: movement and make him scrambling around and getting, you know, uncomfortable.

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Speaker 3: But if you're the Colts, really Donald twenty two for

618
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: thirty six two seventy one, no picks, no touchdown, no picks.

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Speaker 3: But but Riley Leonard is the guy who's been on

620
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Speaker 3: their roster all year, a rookie quarterback for the Colts,

621
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Speaker 3: and why haven't they done enough to coach him up

622
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Speaker 3: so that he could do You only scored sixteen points

623
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Speaker 3: on the road, right, Yeah, you didn't, didn't blab Oh

624
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: my god, Philip Rivers came, he scored thirty wids. He

625
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: didn't do anything that was so sixteen points. You can't

626
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 3: get a couple of field goals in one touchdown from

627
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Speaker 3: the rookie. Come on, man, you're overplaying yourself, overplaying your hand.

628
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 3: Why haven't you coached up Leonard to be able to

629
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Speaker 3: play in this situation? That's why you're the backup. He's

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Speaker 3: been there all almost all year, right, Rob g almost

631
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Speaker 3: all year. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't. And that's

632
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Speaker 3: why I'm not gonna I'm gonna rain on Philip Rivers

633
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: parade because had he won, Oh, they've been a story,

634
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: that's what this, Rob g am. I right or wrong

635
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 3: because the same thing happened with jeffs Saturday when he

636
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: won that first game. People went ballistic, they went they

637
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: went nuts over Jeff Saturday and then they didn't win

638
00:30:58,440 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: another game.

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Speaker 1: If Philip Rivers won, there would be instantly by the

640
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: spring a new Netflix movie about him or Disney. I

641
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: don't know who will play who will play him. I

642
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: have to think of somebody who can play him. But

643
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: he absolutely would have had a Disney movie if he

644
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Speaker 1: won that game.

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Speaker 3: And here's the other numbers that that just tells you

646
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Speaker 3: where he is. You know, when you have that fat

647
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: under your arm and you can't raise it but so much,

648
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, those are the best people

649
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 3: to barbecue. That's why I wanted my grill Rivers. I'm

650
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm not saying Rivers had that, but these numbers suggest

651
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 3: that maybe there's some some grubbing going on. We listen, Yeah,

652
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: he was two for eight for thirty three yards, right

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Speaker 3: and an iront on throws of ten plus air yards.

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Speaker 4: Oh he couldn't she was he was checking out Charlie.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he couldn't get the ball down the field, Like, seriously,

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Speaker 3: that's ten yards, not twenty yards, not thirty ten yards

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Speaker 3: ten plus.

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Speaker 1: I think that the if you isolated, I would say

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Speaker 1: he played pretty well considering circumstances. Period, I say, But

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Speaker 1: if I if I say, is this an indictment?

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Speaker 4: On again?

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Speaker 1: The culture not having a better plan, or maybe the

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Speaker 1: league for not having guys or guys who are If

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Speaker 1: you're a guy who been, you known to say you

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Speaker 1: got you know released recently, you've been on and off

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Speaker 1: some teams, it's an indictment on your skill set that.

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Speaker 4: They ain't want to bring you in.

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Speaker 1: The guy is somebody that you had a forty five

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Speaker 1: year old. I know he knows the system, but that

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Speaker 1: shouldn't happen. That shouldn't happen. And dagget Rob, I heard

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Speaker 1: you