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Speaker 1: Been heck, that's all he was missing. It's like NBA

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Speaker 2: I heard so many funny stories about how they was

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Speaker 1: It just wasn't a realistic thing. They had that ship shut.

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Speaker 3: I would have got somebody yet, Shack, it wasn't happening

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Speaker 4: Pig big Big singing a caig. I pig big Big

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Speaker 1: I do We're big big sing it again. I do

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Speaker 4: I do a big, big big sing it again, I

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Speaker 1: Big What is up?

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Speaker 3: What is good?

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Speaker 5: How you living, how you're feeling, how you're doing it?

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Speaker 5: Koe Man on the Big Podcast with Shack, where we

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Speaker 5: always do it big and flanking the Big Fella Today

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Speaker 5: I start off to his left. A comedian, a TV

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Speaker 1: Give it up for Bill Bella.

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Speaker 6: That's not a bad into.

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Speaker 5: And on the other side, on the other side, Shack,

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Speaker 5: let me give him his due. A certified bucket getter

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Speaker 5: from high school to the league. This man is the

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Speaker 5: three six minut of the Year trophies on the mantle.

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Speaker 5: From MTV Cribs with Bow Wow to Drake's songs, the

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Speaker 1: William All, Dad, you forgot to take it away.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you forgot to say one thing about Bill Belmy.

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Speaker 3: He's also a lawyer. Let me tell you why he

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Speaker 3: for me, Turn that camera around for me. This camera here, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: sug Night is free. Turn the camera, turn the camera

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Speaker 3: on Bill Bellamy's manager. Sug Night is out. If you

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Speaker 6: You want to be with some real comedies. You want

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Speaker 3: What's up, Gods, thanks for coming up.

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Speaker 1: It's a pleasure, big lo Wie Little.

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Speaker 1: If it makes sense?

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Speaker 1: Now I am a coach. You can put that on

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Speaker 3: To Speaking of coaching, Milwaukee Bucks coach. They were thirty

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Speaker 6: Every day.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have an expectation level.

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Speaker 3: Now the Big Podcast with Shock is presented by the Junk.

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Speaker 3: Your boy Shack loves the General, before the League, before

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Speaker 5: I do have a question for mister Bellamy. It is

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Speaker 1: If you were to look back, who gave it to you?

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Speaker 5: So Shaq and I were talking on Tuesday night. He's

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Speaker 5: Has there ever been a celebrity sitting courtside that made

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Speaker 1: That made me play differently?

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Speaker 5: Like it either either inspired you, made you nervous, got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yo, it's I remember when I was on MTV

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Speaker 2: Go like this because I'm like, you're skinning this perfect

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was like, yo, this one. I had just got

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Speaker 2: My number one? Who I think number one would be?

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Speaker 3: Ye how the we first cousins to get to you

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Speaker 3: get to your cousins? Yes, in real life.

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Speaker 3: That that ain't right.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, let me tell you the one that

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Speaker 3: Every time they asked you my talk comans, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Always always say cat, no, forget. See that's how you

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Speaker 1: Cat?

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Speaker 2: Were you? You forget about me? Every time?

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Speaker 3: You know what I respect about Bill. Bill has always

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Speaker 1: He's been Bill Belly as long as I've been living.

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Speaker 6: You too, fresh out of high school.

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Speaker 1: Goddamn.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I remember I remember Fred time, seeing him

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Speaker 3: you know we cousins I said, we're not cousin, and

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Speaker 3: you know, she said, yeah, that's your cousins.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, right, Why don't people know that?

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Speaker 6: They do know it, but they talk.

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Speaker 3: But like he always had this fucking joke on He's like, yil,

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Speaker 3: you know, And I tell people I'm shock cousin. He

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Speaker 2: But they always think, I'm your cousin. You my cousin too.

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Speaker 2: Man be acting like I ain't nobody. I was funny

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Speaker 3: I was boring, funny, so a little when you came in.

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Speaker 3: this motherfucker's perfect. Any of those guys that you played

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it was different from me because it was Ai,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, And just to have that experience and him

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Speaker 1: I gotta compete against this dude every day and this

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Speaker 1: is my idol. He's the reason like I got tattoos,

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Speaker 1: how I carried myself like I really looked up to

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Speaker 1: three seasons of my career was was mind blowing to me,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And getting to know him

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Speaker 1: He was one of those people that put real fear

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Speaker 1: in my heart, you know what I'm saying. Another person

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Speaker 1: was because when I came in five this was still Ai.

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Speaker 1: like I opened it to be a seventeen eighteen year

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: That was. That was that's oh five was hot?

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Speaker 3: Did you get haste?

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Speaker 1: No? I got. I was protected.

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Speaker 3: You didn't get hate, no one.

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Speaker 1: I didn't get haze.

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Speaker 6: I was.

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Speaker 1: I was protected. I was a personal wikie.

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Speaker 3: I hate Kobe one time and it's like the FBI

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Speaker 3: came to my room the next morning.

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Speaker 6: No way ship.

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Speaker 3: It's like he off limits. Was that what you mean

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Speaker 3: off man? Like he off limits? I said, what you mean?

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Speaker 3: That's bro? He off limits.

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Speaker 1: That's how I was. That's why I wasn't Kobe but a.

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Speaker 1: I told him very West.

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Speaker 3: Came, chup down, Magic Brothers, punk as Man, leave my alone,

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Speaker 3: I remember. And the only reason why I didn't mess

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Speaker 3: Scotts told me lift his bags. I said, I I

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Speaker 3: don't do that, bro. He said, you're a rookie. I said, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm not a rookie. I'm shocked. I ain't lifting no

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Speaker 3: mother fucking bag. If you're going to, I said, if

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Speaker 3: you think about making me lift these motherfucking bags. You

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Speaker 3: better get the motherfucking taste out your mouth or part

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Speaker 3: two of my Part two of my Killing spreaker.

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Speaker 5: All right, speaking of taste, pause, Lou greater honor, you're

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Speaker 3: Probably uh, and tell us that story too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, It's probably gonna be the flavor

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Speaker 1: of Wing because that seems like it birthed the nickname

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Speaker 1: it burned Limon pepper lu which is crazy because that

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Speaker 6: All of a sudden, he remember that, though, So what happened?

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Speaker 6: He went to.

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Speaker 1: Let him tell us it wasn't even it's not even interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yes it is, Yes it is people so and but

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Speaker 3: hold on, and I had to do something I never

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Speaker 3: because it was going everybody talking.

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Speaker 1: About weird time. So weird time, everybody, everybody.

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Speaker 3: We want to hear the story from you.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, But uh, my og had passed away. Uh,

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Speaker 1: my business partner, his dad is responsible for a lot

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Speaker 1: of stuff I've done in the community and everything he passed,

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Speaker 1: he passed away. So they cleared me to leave the

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Speaker 1: got home, I went to the wake. So mind you,

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Speaker 1: I've been We've been living in a hotel. Hotel food

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Speaker 1: ain't no special food coming in and out. You eating

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Speaker 1: The wake is it's a block away from Magic Now,

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Speaker 1: if you know Atlanta Coach we eat at it ain't

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Speaker 1: about for real. This is our favorite restaurant cat. So

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I'm a block from Magic We leave here,

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Speaker 1: I get to Magic Mind just four thirty five o'clock

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Speaker 1: in the afternoon, So all of the hour was partying

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Speaker 1: and all that. That's bullshit. So I'm there at five o'clock.

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Speaker 1: NBA did a whole investigation. It was eight people total

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Speaker 1: in Magic City. Five of them was with me. By

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Speaker 1: the way, I got my mask on. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: doing everything responsible this and that. So Jack Harlow walks

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Speaker 1: a backstory on my relationship with Jack Harlow. I've known

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Speaker 1: Jack since twenty seventeen. I met him. He was a

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Speaker 1: regular white kid. I didn't know nothing about him. My

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Speaker 1: man told me he did music. I'm like, cool. He

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Speaker 1: started coming around. Fast forward three years later, he's the

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Speaker 1: biggest star in the world, number one song. He walks in.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, man, congrats on everything. Bro, Like you

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Speaker 1: made it. Bro Like yeah, it's happening. Bro, you got

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Speaker 1: the number one song, this and that. So we excited

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Speaker 1: to see each other. He's like, yo, let's take a shot, man,

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Speaker 1: Jack take a shot. So he like, man, you think

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Speaker 1: we could take a picture. He was like, you're think it.

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Speaker 1: It'll be cool. We take a picture. I said, I

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Speaker 1: don't see why not. I got my mask on, you

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Speaker 1: Don't think nothing of it. Jack go about his business.

439
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Speaker 1: I go about my my food, come out, I leave,

440
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Speaker 1: I go home. Next day, I wake up and that's

441
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Speaker 1: the extent of the story. By the way, that was

442
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Speaker 1: my time in Magic City.

443
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Speaker 6: Go home on fire.

444
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I go home. Next morning. My agent called me,

445
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,919
Speaker 1: he said, we got a problem. I said, what's up?

446
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 1: He said, I'll call you. He said, I'll call you back,

447
00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 1: but L Frank is about to call you. L Frank

448
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 1: was my GM at the time with the Clippers. L

449
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,479
Speaker 1: caused me, Hey, man, who the fuck is Jack Harlow.

450
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 1: I said, he's my friend here, rapper. Wow, what's the problem.

451
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 1: I'll call you back. So he hangs up on me too.

452
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: So my agent and my gym they done hung up

453
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 1: on me. Back to back lawn front, Yeah, from Jersey.

454
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: So I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Open

455
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,880
Speaker 1: my phone? Twitter is going crazy. Lou Williams sneaks out

456
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: of the bubble to go to Magic City.

457
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Speaker 6: That's what I saw.

458
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Speaker 1: I was. They said, I snuck. I snuck out of

459
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Speaker 1: the bubble. There was a doctor traveling with me. Because

460
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 1: this was the time you had the COVID test two

461
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 1: three times a day. It was a doctor traveling with me.

462
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,960
Speaker 1: Didn't sneak out of the bubble. I had permission to leave.

463
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Speaker 1: I didn't have permission to go to Magic I give

464
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Speaker 1: him that. But I wanted something to eat, you know

465
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and so and the wings are good.

466
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 1: So what ended up happening was Jack posted the picture,

467
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 1: so people started going crazy, like louis out of the bubble.

468
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 1: So when Jack realized that, he deleted the picture and said,

469
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Speaker 1: y'all chill, that was that's an old pick. I'm just

470
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 1: showing love to my homie. But I had the bubble

471
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 1: mask on. Oh yeah, yeah, it said n b A

472
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: the NBA bubble mask on, and he tried to cover

473
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 1: for me, and it just then it just took a

474
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Speaker 1: life of his own. And it was a slow media

475
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: week and they just fucking lit me on fire when

476
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: I heard that, cause I was like, I heard everything.

477
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 1: I was irresponsible. I ain't ship, I'm a clown.

478
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

479
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: It's got problems to this day because of that.

480
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 3: I didn't know you at the time. I was like,

481
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 3: he always been cool with me. I always see him out. Yeah,

482
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 3: that's true.

483
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,000
Speaker 2: It makes sense to me, Like as a person that

484
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 2: heard the story, I'm like, that makes sense.

485
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 6: Like damn, being in a bubble, you go back home.

486
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Speaker 6: I mean, come on, go get some weeks.

487
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: Because I'm going I'm going right back to the bubble.

488
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: So the next day, so I'm like, shit, I'm gonna

489
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Speaker 1: get some food I want, Like I'm gonna have me

490
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Speaker 1: a meal that I look forward to. You did what

491
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Speaker 1: I'm saying. And the funny thing is what people don't

492
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Speaker 1: know is I was back in the bubble on I

493
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Speaker 1: want to say, Friday. I was already back in the

494
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:09,400
Speaker 1: bubble in quarantine. And my agent was like, Monday, it's

495
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a ship show. He was like, when when

496
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 1: everybody come back from the weekend and the media opened

497
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: back up, I'm telling you, it's gonna be a ship

498
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 1: So so Monday morning hit and I was on every

499
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 1: single news station. Everybody was just dogging the ship out

500
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Speaker 1: of me.

501
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Speaker 2: And and mind you.

502
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: But what was crazy was I was already on day

503
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: fourth quarantine. So I'm sitting there watching it like they like,

504
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: has he even returned to the bubble yet? And I

505
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: put my team at risk in this? And I'm like, what,

506
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: But Adam Silver he told me. He said, honestly, I

507
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 1: don't think he did anything wrong, but I am going

508
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: to make example out of you, because I don't think

509
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,919
Speaker 1: I don't need these guys to think that this they

510
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 1: can do this shit right.

511
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Speaker 6: They just everybody would have wanted me.

512
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:55,840
Speaker 1: To the Wolves.

513
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 3: What happened ten games, twelve games.

514
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: No suspension, no fine, No, nothing, not just quarantined. Okay,

515
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying.

516
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: What was that like quarantine?

517
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: Like being locked in a hotel room with fucker sliding

518
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: food to your door like you are animal.

519
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:11,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was crazy.

520
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: Now that was a while and it feels like that

521
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: was a long time ago. That was a wild time, bro.

522
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523
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524
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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 5: So the incredible thing about doing a podcast with you, Shack,

535
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 5: is that it's not just talking to a former basketball player.

536
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Speaker 5: I'm talking to one of the greatest businessmen that's ever lived.

537
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Speaker 5: And one of the sponsors of our show is ZIP

538
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Speaker 5: Recruiter wants to kind of take what you've learned in

539
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Speaker 5: life and teach people, and they want to do a

540
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Speaker 5: segment called The Big Assistant. So I have some questions

541
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Speaker 5: for you that maybe it can help people. Again, shout out, ZipRecruiter.

542
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Speaker 5: How many assistants do you currently have?

543
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Speaker 3: Over twenty? Holy Holy, And that's because my favorite word

544
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Speaker 3: in life is delegation. I want to do a podcast,

545
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Speaker 3: Damn Damn call my boy, Shane. I want to do

546
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Speaker 3: a podcast, Damn dan call my boy Adam. You always

547
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Speaker 3: have to delegate. And I learned delegation by winning championships.

548
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Speaker 3: No individual can win a championship by themselves unless you're

549
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Speaker 3: planning an individual sport. But the things I do are

550
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Speaker 3: not individual sports. Running J. C. Penny is not an

551
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Speaker 3: individual sports. Hav An ownership in Forever twenty one is

552
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 3: not an individual sport. Like I'm here, I have to

553
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Speaker 3: assign somebody to do that. So delegation is my favorite word.

554
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 3: Second favorite word is trust. Like if I'm gonna tell

555
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 3: you that, Shane, you run the podcast, you set it up,

556
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: you call the people. I have to trust you. And

557
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: the last thing is do not micromanage. I don't micromanage.

558
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: Nobody that works and I don't like to use the

559
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 3: term works for me. Nobody that works with me. I

560
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 3: never micromanage. So they may call me and say, hey, hey, hey,

561
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: what do you think. I say, handle it. That's what

562
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: I pay you to do, So you handle it. So

563
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 3: you know, I love to delegate and I love to

564
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Speaker 3: have people give them access to the right side of

565
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 3: my brain so they could do things that I want

566
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Speaker 3: to get accomplished.

567
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 5: Shack, How how do you deal with business owners or

568
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 5: people that think they can do everything? I know you

569
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 5: just you kind of broke it down to us why

570
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Speaker 5: it's important.

571
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Speaker 1: But how often do you have to deal with that.

572
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people think and feel they

573
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 3: could do everything. It's because you know, based on experiences,

574
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 3: like sometimes if you delegate to the wrong people and

575
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: your outcome is not favorable, then sometimes you have to say,

576
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 3: you know, I'm gonna do it myself, but I trust

577
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: everybody that I delegate too. So you know, again, if

578
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: i'm you know, I want to want to open up

579
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Speaker 3: a gym, I'm gonna call my boy Rock if I

580
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: want to open up a boxing gym. I'm gonna call

581
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 3: Alithia Bumgardner, and you know, delegate those those topics or

582
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: those practices that I don't want people to do it

583
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 3: listen to each his own. I'd rather focus on what

584
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 3: I know. What I know is basketball, what I know

585
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 3: is music, What I know is how to have fun

586
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 3: and my smart businessman. Yes, but I rather align myself

587
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: with people that are smarter.

588
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: All right.

589
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Speaker 5: Last one shout out again as ZIP recruiter. They're trying

590
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Speaker 5: to help people hire so they can build their businesses.

591
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Speaker 5: When you realize that you've delegated and the person can't

592
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 5: do it, how quickly do you go?

593
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 1: I need to find someone who can.

594
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: When I delegate to somebody and I find out that

595
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: they can't do it, I always give them three chances,

596
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 3: because guess what, I can't do it either. So you're

597
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: on my team. We're gonna figure out together. Like you

598
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: know when I first came in, I can't beat Mike

599
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 3: hey Man. We're gonna draft Cris Webber. Now, don't grab

600
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Speaker 3: don't draft Chris Webber. I need this penny hard aweight

601
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Speaker 3: cat damn. We still can't beat beat Mike hey Horace

602
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Speaker 3: Horace Grant. He don't like being over at the bulls.

603
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: Bring him over. Now. We beat Mike, So you know,

604
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 3: I trust you to delegate for you. You don't figure

605
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: it out, that's okay. Maybe we can figure it out together.

606
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: We're a team now and we get it done. But

607
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 3: I always give a person three chances. Like like I

608
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 3: told my boy yesterday and I'm probably gonna have to

609
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: fire himut this. I said, hey, come get this old

610
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: treadmill and get rid of it. He takes it around

611
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: the corner from my house and dumps it in somebody

612
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Speaker 3: else's yard.

613
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: That's what he does.

614
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: He takes it around the corner and dumps it in

615
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Speaker 3: somebody not at the back of the yard, in in

616
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: front of the yard on the main street. So when

617
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: I drove by this, my mom was like, is that

618
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 3: my fucking tread bill that I just hope my boy

619
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Speaker 3: to get rid of? So rock your ass gotta.

620
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Speaker 1: Go third chance.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, it was crazy, but the the whole COVID situation,

622
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 3: like us black people, we know how to we know

623
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: how to bring it all the way up to the line.

624
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: For example, we get to Orlando, so I'm not gonna

625
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 3: stay here and go to on Lando. I got a

626
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 3: big house on Lando. They're saying, don't come on the streets,

627
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: don't do this, don't go to the store, don't go

628
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Speaker 3: to the mall. But they ain't say shit about the lake.

629
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Speaker 3: I'm looking at it. I'm looking at all the wardens

630
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Speaker 3: and all the laws. They don't say nothing about the lake.

631
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Speaker 3: When I tell you, the lake was motherfucking packed. Every day.

632
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: I had to buy two new boats. And who there

633
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: you are, because I had to because I had this

634
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: bullshit pontoon boat. And there's this rich kid who lives

635
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: around the corner. This motherfucker show up in a brand

636
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: new boat every day and he stopped by the house,

637
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: playing in music, like if motherfucker was flexing on me.

638
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, Kenny, give me another boat. We

639
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: can't give me another us. So I got a boat.

640
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: So this motherfucker went and got a bigger boat. So

641
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 3: now I'm like, you know what, can't he get it up?

642
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 3: So I bought two different boats just to fucking compete

643
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: with this looking. We was on the lake every day

644
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: because again no cops. Yeah yeah, hundreds of people no

645
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 3: cop And when I tell you, they was part of it.

646
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: Would come behind my house. Put the boat today, we

647
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Speaker 3: put the djtion. It was like a party of the

648
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Speaker 3: whole time.

649
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Speaker 1: And you know what was crazy. And we're in the bubble.

650
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: So by the time we're in the bubble, outside opens

651
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Speaker 1: back up.

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Speaker 6: By the way, y'all still in the bubble.

653
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Speaker 1: So we're in the bubble, but everybody else's back to

654
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,239
Speaker 1: living life. Lord, but we're at Disney, so we can

655
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:31,479
Speaker 1: literally hear the roller coasters and shit, like, we can

656
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: literally hear that shit. So it felt like it felt

657
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: like aspects of jail, like they having a ball and

658
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: were still stuck in this goddamn above it. We cleaned

659
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: my room. I'll never forget that.

660
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 2: Like, so I was at I was doing a show,

661
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: and I said, can we do house We don't do housekeeping,

662
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: we don't do food, we don't do nothing. I said,

663
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: can I get some towels? They threw the towels in

664
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 2: a bag. Yeah, they just threw them in the room

665
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: on the ground, like I swear to God, Like they

666
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: didn't clean no rooms they were there's no there was

667
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: no food.

668
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 6: Y'all lucky y'all had food.

669
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: You had it was it was a video game. Just

670
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: imagine you in the hotel and second floor, the elevator

671
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: opened up, you just see a big LA Lakers banner,

672
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: third floor, Miami Heat banner, fourth floor, Boston Celtics bounder.

673
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: Like every floor was a team. It was a team,

674
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: and that was that was your roommates. Like Lebron riding

675
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: around on a bike. You got dudes over here playing

676
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: ping pong, Donovan Mitchell and whoever else they playing ping pong.

677
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: Other guys they over here at the pool and like

678
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: it's like NBA. It's like NBA university with no women.

679
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if they would have brought Magic City to y'all,

680
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 2: y'all would have been happy.

681
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: We'd have been real happy.

682
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 6: Y'all would have been good.

683
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: That's all we was missing. It would it'd have been

684
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: a lot more desirable.

685
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: I heard so many funny stories about how they was

686
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: trying to get women in the bubble. They was bringing girls.

687
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: They was trying to.

688
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: Stee girls over the game happening. They was happening. They

689
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to get him in there. It wasn't It

690
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: wasn't happening. It just wasn't a realistic thing. They had.

691
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: That ship would have got somebody else shack it. Wasn't

692
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: happening from Orlando. I have Disney contacts. I would have

693
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: got somebody. Yet I'm found.

694
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: We had found one little we found one little thing.

695
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: One day, me and Pat Bell, we ride bikes and

696
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: we just decided we just go ride all around us,

697
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: but just see what's going on. And we found the

698
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: employee interest and we was like, nah, I'd have got it.

699
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: I got what strike already. I was. Yeah, I was

700
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: already on strike what I said, waiting for to play

701
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: with these people. But it was it was a couple

702
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: of little cracks in their system, though it could have happened.

703
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: So, Bill, you've been doing the stand a long twenty.

704
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: Eight twenty eight thirty basically, Yeah, So.

705
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: If you started out at a beauty pageant.

706
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 6: So I was at Rutgers. He sounds weird, but I was.

707
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 2: Uh. I was at Rutgers in Delta Sigma Theta had

708
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: this like male beauty pageant.

709
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 6: I think I'm a sophomore at the time.

710
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 3: So you're in a male beauty paget.

711
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I just stand up, hold on, were you

712
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 6: in the.

713
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: Yeah?

714
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was all females too.

715
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no no no, no, hold

716
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 3: on you Yeah, hold on, hold on, you was in

717
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: the male beauty pageant doing what you had your shirt off?

718
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 6: I had to take the shirt off, man, I was.

719
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: I was, hey, man, were your shirt?

720
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 6: And I had like one?

721
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 3: I had one?

722
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 6: Mother?

723
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: Can I curse on you?

724
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah?

725
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,959
Speaker 2: Of course one motherfucker pick and uh I was skinny

726
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: as hell?

727
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: And uh, holdo were you competing in the view pad

728
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 3: or were you.

729
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: Just doing so Basically, what they did was they had,

730
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,239
Speaker 2: you know, we we had to like black tie. All

731
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: the dudes came out fly walked out for the lady screaming.

732
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 2: Then they had to they had to be twist a

733
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 2: brief joint, so you know, you put a little extra

734
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: sock in your joint when you're coming down there. Make

735
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: sure you look at you know, you're looking kind of swollen.

736
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: Make sure.

737
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 6: Make sure looking weird, like you don't look right.

738
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 2: Your dudes was really putting socks in their joint like tissue.

739
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 2: They was making sure they had a nice impression. And

740
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: then uh, then then they had a talent part and

741
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: then I did stand up and then after that everybody

742
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 2: was like yo, Bill funny as hell. And then I

743
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 2: just kept doing coffee houses and step shows and That's

744
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: how I started.

745
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: You do it? Did you do another beauty pageant after that?

746
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 6: It was too much one and done.

747
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. Just let me see the footage.

748
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pay for it, and I will I won't

749
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 3: put it out. I promise you will have my ass

750
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 3: looking crazy. I was crackhead, skinny too. I got fitted

751
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 3: and you should see how skinny I was. I looked crazy.

752
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: You could see my heart beating. So how did you

753
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 3: get into Terminal days? Terminal is like this famous place

754
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: like where we're from. It would always be smooth, to

755
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 3: the Vasachi shirts, to sk curl, Yeah, you dope back.

756
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 3: I forgot about that sk carol with me.

757
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: So in the hood though, right by the project was

758
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: this little restaurant and and they had they wasn't doing comedy.

759
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: So me and my boy Bob something who at the

760
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: time he was like, yo, be man, this will be

761
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: a good spot for you to work out. I see

762
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: you trying to come up. And the Felton family owned it.

763
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,240
Speaker 2: You know, they owned all the cleaning services in Newark,

764
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: and so they had this little fly restaurant with good

765
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 2: wings and all that. And Terry Hodges was the host

766
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: at the time shot. You can have a shot. Just

767
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: took you with the wings.

768
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Yeah, the wings were good. So then I

769
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: was only there outside the bubble.

770
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 6: So look, so.

771
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: I was only there for a day because I was

772
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 2: visiting my people so real quick. So all I did

773
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: was do stand up, do stand up. I started getting

774
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: a little bit of buzz in the city. And this

775
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: is how it blew up in NewYork. Terry Hodges was

776
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,800
Speaker 2: hosting showtime at Apollo that night and he let me

777
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 2: be the guest host, and he never got the job

778
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: back because once I started hosting, it was over because

779
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 2: I was I knew everybody, all the state trups, I was,

780
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 2: I knew everybody history, so I could be in there

781
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: killing you, killing him, kill this way. Everybody's like, yo, Bill,

782
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 2: you gotta be the host.

783
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 6: And that's how I took off the bus start happening.

784
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: Then we went to Club eighty eight, remember Club eighty eight,

785
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: And then we end up being at terminal at at

786
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: the Peppermint Lounge with you Sai.

787
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: Bill is only cousin that out does me at the

788
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: Fener reunion. No, you know, like when I get that

789
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: chat as soon as he walk in, all the good

790
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: looking Bill.

791
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 6: Room, let me tell you.

792
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 2: Can I tell your funny story first time? This is

793
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: like when we both getting on shackings Orlando and I'm

794
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 2: on MTV, right, So i go down to Lando. I'm

795
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 2: hanging with him, and I'm thinking, I'm like lightweight famous.

796
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 2: Now I'm like, yo, I know you in the league,

797
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 2: my dude, but I'm on one right now, I'm on

798
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: TV fourteen times a day.

799
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 6: Whatever. I'm thinking, I'm big to We go to Disney.

800
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: World, I said, God, damn, this man famous, right, So

801
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: do you remember Mariah Carey was there?

802
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: Yes, I don't.

803
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: So wherever we go in Disney World, Jack is getting

804
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: sworn by fifty sixty eighty one hundred people. It's me,

805
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: Kenny Dirt. It's about eight of us, and we're surrounding

806
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: him because the kids like they're running. We can't move,

807
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: we can't like get on rides and all this. They

808
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: wouldn't even They run right past me.

809
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: Cheryl.

810
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, dog, I'm like, damn, this dude is on

811
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: another left.

812
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 6: I would never forget that.

813
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, he famous, famous, Damn well, Riah

814
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 2: Carey running over there. She jumped off the roller coaster.

815
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Take a pictures of this motherfucker. I was like, Hi, Mariah,

816
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: she ain't even see me.

817
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: Also used to stick up for Bill too. So this

818
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: guy that used to come to my house statue, let

819
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: me tell you this. We're gonna tell the story. Yeah.

820
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 3: So this guy always used to come to my house,

821
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 3: so he didn't know who Bill was, so he disrespect

822
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 3: Bill on that. So I said, so Bill, Bill, want

823
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: to touch him up? I said, Bill, don't worry. Tell

824
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: him what my cousin Kennedy didn't.

825
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: Okay, Shaq said, Yo, he had these two big rock

826
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: wallers thor In Shazam, big ass two hundred pounds wiles.

827
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: He said, Yo, go take some doodole and put in

828
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: this for rock. So so we're all in the kitchen

829
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: and whatever. Because the dude was talking greasy the whole day.

830
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: He was an asshole. He's being real, real cocky, you know.

831
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: He I guess he had a little bit of paper.

832
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: Shack said, go right back, drop that dude on that

833
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 2: right because he had a roof. He had no roof

834
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 2: on the joint. So he goes, Dude, the funk's going on,

835
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: man fucking doing ship by fucking rory man.

836
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 6: Shacks ain't no way, ain't no way. She said, did

837
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 6: y'all shit in this com' no no way? Man, your body?

838
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 6: What the fucking dude? It my god? Yeah, we got it.

839
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got rid of he.

840
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 5: Speaking of speaking of ship going down in cars. I

841
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 5: have a I have to pick up something with Lou here,

842
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 5: because he says he's only known for Magic City. Lou

843
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 5: has one of the greatest fan stories of all time.

844
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 6: He's in this car.

845
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 5: Gunman pulls up, tries to rob him, realizes it's Lou

846
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 5: Will and says.

847
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: My bad. I'm a fan.

848
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gave me.

849
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 5: I wanted to know, Shack, if something like that has

850
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 5: ever happened to you. But Lou has to tell that

851
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 5: story too.

852
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just true. I'm sure you get a lot

853
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: of passing Shack. Anybody with you that? Yeah, well ship,

854
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: I wish I should have I got that. No, I

855
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: was in Philly. I was. I was in Philly. The

856
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: crazy thing about the story is my security was actually

857
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: with me. He was in the car behind me and

858
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: I was leaving the I was leaving the barbershop and

859
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: he called me. He said, you're good. I said, yeah,

860
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm finna go to the house. He said, cool. I

861
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: watched him in my rearview mirror. You turn and go

862
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: the other way. So when he goes the other way,

863
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: I look down at my phone and I just heard,

864
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: like somebody tap on my window. But I'm at a

865
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: light and I just look up and he like, get

866
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: out the car. Oh ship, my stupid ass. Rolled the

867
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: window down. Excuse me. That was my first Yeah, I

868
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: gave him a shot.

869
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 3: Light as.

870
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 6: In need of assistance.

871
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: But that's but that's actually the best thing I could

872
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: have did, because when I rolled the window down, we

873
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: looked at each other and he said, lou Will, I

874
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: can't even do it to you, bro, true story, True

875
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: story is dope. And he was just he said, man,

876
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: I just got out of jail. The only thing I

877
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: got is a bus ticket. Bro, I'm out here starving

878
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: and I was just thinking on my feet. I said, look, bruh.

879
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: So McDonald's right there. You meet me at the McDonald's.

880
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: I buy you whatever you want to eat. He ran

881
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: to the McDonald's. I thought, fuck that, I'm about I'm

882
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: about to dip on it. But I'm like, nah, I

883
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: gave him my word, so I called my security. I'm like, yo,

884
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: come to the McDonald's right right now. So but the story,

885
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: that's another story that's taking the life of it's on.

886
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: It's like I sat down and ate with him, and

887
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: I let him in my car, and none of that

888
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: shit happened. I meet him at the McDonald's. So when

889
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: I get to the counter, he ordering the ganga shit

890
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: by the way, like three double cheeseburgers. He he racking

891
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: up for the week. My man. By this time, my man,

892
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: he don't he door fly open to McDonald's. He ready

893
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: to go, So I'm telling him, hold up. So the

894
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: dude ordered a bunch of food. I'm like, man, good

895
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: luck to you dog. I paid for the shit and

896
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: I got up out of there.

897
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: I never had nothing like that happened in the streets.

898
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 3: But police wise, this is a true story. So I'm

899
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 3: we doing a warm right, and we stopped this guy

900
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: in l a and we get behind him and he

901
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: looking and it's taking a while, so we go get

902
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 3: him and we we we we put hands on him, right,

903
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 3: and then we opened his trunk and his back seat.

904
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 3: My fuck got everything. No, my fuck got everything. Grenade

905
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: launches Oozzi's Yeah, but he said, I'm a Laker fan.

906
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: And when I saw a shot get out of the car.

907
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: I just I just chilled out. But if I wasn't there,

908
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: it probably would have been a long night wow, because

909
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 3: like he was looking, like we was all looking. So

910
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: we got him out the car. He resisted and he

911
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 3: saw me. He kind of calmed down. But when we

912
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: opened up his.

913
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: Ship, I was I was always curious about that though,

914
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: because you, like one of the most recognizable people in

915
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: the world and you police. How does that? How does

916
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: that work?

917
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 6: Actually real police?

918
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

919
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: You like real.

920
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 3: So when I first started doing patrol and then work

921
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: out too well because like people thought it was like

922
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 3: a TV show, like yeah, like I would come up.

923
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: And so then I moved to Grand Theft Auto. We

924
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 3: do stolen cars. So at that point, if we catch you,

925
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 3: it's nothing to really talk about because we already caught

926
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 3: you in the stolen car. Check the vendombers on that

927
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: we lock you up. Then I went to Internet crimes

928
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: against children, which is terrible by the way, so like

929
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: if we do a warrant knock on your door, we

930
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 3: have to get you. Only got caught one time, and

931
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: the one time we get calls because we hit the

932
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: wrong house. We was in Virginia. And you know how

933
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: like in the country where like the nine, you do

934
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: it with the nail, but if one nail comes out,

935
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 3: it comes down to it and make it look like

936
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 3: a six. So we hit the wrong house one day

937
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 3: and I got on a mask, got on a mask,

938
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 3: but I forget my boots and I got on my

939
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 3: shack shoes. So we wrestling with this dude. The motherfucker said,

940
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: you ain't no cop. Your motherfucker shock. I ain't shock.

941
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: I ain't shocked. Put your hand.

942
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 7: So then he called the cops. So us you motherfuckers

943
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 7: came to my house. I think one of them was shocked.

944
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 7: I thought he was playing right when he first told

945
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 7: me he was gonna be a cop. I'm like, dog,

946
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 7: you can't do everything. He's like, no, man, I'm in

947
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 7: the academy right now, right so he playing for the Lakers.

948
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 7: I'll never forget this, That's what the fuck. I was like,

949
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 7: Oh shit, the police here.

950
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 2: This motherfucker take fourteen hours. Get out of the car.

951
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: I told you, motherfucker. I told him to po pool.

952
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: I look in the police car. He's sitting all the

953
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: way in the back like he got this chair is

954
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: all the way in the back, like he gotta customize

955
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: for him.

956
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 6: But he got to do this, man, I man, you

957
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 6: might just shoot somebody.

958
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: In the shack. One time in Orlando at the mall,

959
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: he was a it was a regular charger, but when

960
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: he got out, he got out like the back seat.

961
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 6: I was like, every time he get a car and

962
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,879
Speaker 6: is he in the back seat?

963
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: Bro?

964
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: I never forget this. When you was in Miammi, he

965
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: was like, Yo, co, you got to check out my

966
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: new land Bow round. I'm like, now, you can't fit

967
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: in no motherfucking lamb boat?

968
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: Was it?

969
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: It was like I think it was purple ship. I

970
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: get in the car, bro, my feet is dangling, like like,

971
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: my feet is like this right. I can't even touch

972
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: the pedal because his ship is custom back here, and

973
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: I can't put my hand on the steer where I

974
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 2: was like, Yo, that's crazy.

975
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,479
Speaker 1: But you fit in cars?

976
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I had to buy. I had to buy

977
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 3: one real lambow and one salvage and cut it in

978
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 3: half and super blueing together.

979
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 6: Yeah. That's when you know you got money. You got

980
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 6: to make a bunch of it.

981
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I got a question. I asked you this

982
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: upstairs because because in basketball probably the simmer. If he

983
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 3: does a crossover and I do the same crossover but

984
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 3: add a little something to it, am I stealing? So

985
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 3: like if you do a joke and I remix it

986
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: your primise but I don't say it like it, but

987
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 3: it's your premise and I remix it, is that stealing jokes?

988
00:45:58,880 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

989
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 6: Comedy is I never knew that. No, but it's true.

990
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 2: Like the thing about comedy is it's an unsaid rule,

991
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: but it's kind of like an honor code. If I

992
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: do a joke and you you know, you see me

993
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 2: do it, like that's off limits. Now the topic. Anybody

994
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 2: can do a let's say Obama joke, like you don't

995
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 2: own the area, but the presentation, how you set it up,

996
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: what you say, that's yours, Like that's your take. Now

997
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 2: I can still do an Obama joke and somebody might say,

998
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: oh man, that's close. Because sometimes comedians think of like,

999
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, so that you got to come.

1000
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: But if it's verbatim bing bing bing bing, that's when

1001
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: cats being their feelings. Because reality with comedy is the

1002
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: first one that do it on a special or get

1003
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: it on TV, you own it.

1004
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's so you've been in game thirty years? How longevity?

1005
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: Man like?

1006
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: Because I think my secret sauce is like I'm always

1007
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 2: doing different things, like whether I'm on a TV show,

1008
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 2: I'm you know, making a movie, you know, doing stand up.

1009
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: I always keep myself moving, and you always got to

1010
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: stay relevant. Like you know, it would be like no

1011
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 2: disrespect to Hammer, like wearing the hammer pants right now.

1012
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: The cats ain't wearing it right now, you know what

1013
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I never got stuck in one decade.

1014
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: You know, each decade, I just evolved to what's going on, evolved.

1015
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: So now you got thirty years in a game. This

1016
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 2: cats like little Williams who know who I am? Shack obviously,

1017
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: But then there's different generations through the Internet. Now that's

1018
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: a whole other game. Think when you came into the league,

1019
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 2: the social media aspect wasn't.

1020
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: A part of it, right. I always tell people that

1021
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm like I lived the pre social media life, Like

1022
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: I'm old enough where it wasn't relevant and also young

1023
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: enough where I've seen it and I'm glad social.

1024
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 3: Media wasn't around us. We appreciate that me and them

1025
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: had beef one though, you remember what wow, you remember

1026
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 3: what this motherfucker gave up all the secrets on how

1027
00:47:58,480 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: to be a player.

1028
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the fun?

1029
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 3: But you know he gave me the currency. He said, Yo,

1030
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 3: I'm doing this movie how to be the player. It's

1031
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 3: gonna be some ship that you do. He ain't say

1032
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 3: we do. It's gonna be some ship that you do

1033
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: that you're gonna see. I'm watching what. I'm like this

1034
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 3: My fuck gave up all my secrets. He gave up

1035
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 3: all boy hour, so bad movie for guys. Like to me, Bro,

1036
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: you gave up all my ship. This is the thing, though, Shack,

1037
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 3: I have to change my ship. The best life. I

1038
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 3: had to change all my.

1039
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: Time because we didn't have social media. Right, so you

1040
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: can make a mistake. You could live your life and Bill.

1041
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 3: Don't don't say nothing. Don't say nothing that's gonna get

1042
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: your wife met at man. Yeah, I just don't. I'm

1043
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: saying he lived a great I'm already divorce.

1044
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 2: See let's think about this. Shack comes into the league.

1045
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: This is when you guys are really getting paid. So

1046
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: now it's like it was a huge jump in salaries. Right,

1047
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: so now casts is getting bred. They young, there's no

1048
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 2: social media y'all had the best window ever. Error is

1049
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 2: the best window because right after that you that you

1050
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 2: can't even get a chicken wing without that.

1051
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: So you always hear the next to Kobe, next shock,

1052
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: who's the next? Lotue will like, who do you watching?

1053
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: Leave to day? They say he reminds me of myself, don't.

1054
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't really want nobody to beat me because that

1055
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 1: was that was something that was handed to me. You

1056
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like a star, I wanted to

1057
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: be a starter.

1058
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 3: That that's why I put you in the list.

1059
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like that wasn't something that

1060
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: I thrive to be. It's just that's just the way

1061
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: that my career went, and I embraced it. I decided,

1062
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: either I'm just gonna be miserable every day or I'm

1063
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: gonna embrace it and I'm just gonna be I'm just

1064
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: gonna make it embarrassing to the point where it's like,

1065
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: why why is he coming off the bench? Ain't no ways,

1066
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so that's that's kind

1067
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: of how I approached it. But because it was an

1068
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: adjustment period for me for a minute, because you know,

1069
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: you start looking at your peers getting different opportunities, and

1070
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: you like, damn, I want my I want my shot

1071
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: at it. I want to have an opportunity to see

1072
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: if I I can run a team, if I can

1073
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: be a star player on the team. Never got that opportunity,

1074
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so going through that,

1075
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: I just had to make a decision whether I'm gonna

1076
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: worry about what everybody else got going on, or I'm

1077
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: just gonna make the best of what I got going

1078
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: So if I if I was looking at young guys

1079
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: and say, who's the next Lou Williams, like, I really

1080
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: like Malik Monk look a lot like me, Like watching

1081
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: him at watching him at Sacramento, and how he's playing

1082
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: like that looked like that's that looked like my style

1083
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: right there. I'm not saying that he's he's trying to

1084
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: be me, but I'm just saying, like, how he's impacting

1085
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: the game that look that look a lot like me.

1086
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 5: My question for Lou because I'm a I'm a gambler,

1087
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 5: and Shaq knows us how white people gamble.

1088
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 6: It's a little bit different, but.

1089
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 5: Lou works white people gam Lou works with FanDuel, and

1090
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 5: I was curious, Loue, do you think players today know

1091
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 5: what their player prop is like? Do you think they

1092
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 5: know that that their line is eighteen and a half

1093
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 5: points or do you think when they walk in and

1094
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 5: some fan yells, hey, lou I need twenty points from you,

1095
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 5: do they process that at all.

1096
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: No, we actually think it's disrespectful because you gotta think

1097
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: we make a ton of money. We don't give a

1098
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: fuck about your prop bet man, Right, we don't care

1099
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: about your one hundred dollar bet. Right, this is my livelihood.

1100
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: So we're not going out there thinking, oh, I'm eighteen

1101
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: and a half tonight, I gotta I gotta go make

1102
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: sure this guy makes fifteen hundred dollars off the right.

1103
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: That's that's like the first and and the other aspect

1104
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: of it that people don't realize. You know how many

1105
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 1: people DM you and send you hate and tell you, oh,

1106
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: fuck you, you ain't shit you, you miss my parlay,

1107
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: and like so that aspect of it, like, man, we

1108
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck about your bet, so I don't.

1109
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: I don't think that's I don't think that's a thing

1110
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,280
Speaker 1: for players.

1111
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 3: We actually hate it without hurting people's feelings. When people

1112
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: get sensitive KD says the other day his name should

1113
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 3: be discussed in the grades of all time conversation? What

1114
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 3: has he not done? I agree or disagree?

1115
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 6: He said, you got to be specific. You can't just

1116
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 6: say greatest, No.

1117
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 3: The goat like they always talk about Lebron. I think

1118
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 3: Michael Jordans, I throw on Kobe some people don't. I

1119
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: threw in Steph Curty the other day. Now he's saying

1120
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 3: his name should be in that kind of kareem.

1121
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 2: I think KD is the goat on this for seven

1122
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 2: foot two guards?

1123
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: No, non't no. Is he one of the grands of

1124
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 3: all time?

1125
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 6: Yes, one of the greatest? Separate I never seen another case.

1126
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 3: Should he be in that conversation?

1127
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: What you think? I think so? And I think so.

1128
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: Kevin Kevin Durant is a transcendent talent bro like we've

1129
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: never We've never seen it before. We've never seen any

1130
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: anybody like KD. And I said this the other day

1131
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: on on something else I was doing. The timing was

1132
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: bad when he went to Golden State right after that,

1133
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: right after losing to them, then going to them. I

1134
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: think any other year in his career he go there,

1135
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: It's not looked at as that particular thing, you know

1136
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And it's such a sensitive subject with

1137
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: people in basketball and basketball the debates, But Kevin Durant

1138
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: is absolutely one of the best players that we've seen

1139
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: of all time.

1140
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:26,799
Speaker 2: I want to get him. I want to give him

1141
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: a goat kind of status because I don't want to

1142
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: disrespect his talent because Katie is, we've never seen that before.

1143
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: Right as a fan of basketball. To me, I've never

1144
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: seen a more skilled guy at that height. He could

1145
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: do everything that a guard can do. He shot, He

1146
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 2: shoots better than anybody ever, damn their self for staff.

1147
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 6: And that part I think is goat goat status.

1148
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like, when y'all start doing championships and this,

1149
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: it gets weird.

1150
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 3: I think he has his own special category.

1151
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: Like me, Yeah, I'm not.

1152
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 3: I'm not in a goat cutting assent, but I am

1153
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: one of two of the most dominant players ever. So

1154
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,840
Speaker 3: he's one of two of the most most prolific dominant

1155
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 3: scorers ever. And I think, and I think, like you

1156
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 3: said to piggyback on what you said, because you lose

1157
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: the Golden State and then you go join them and

1158
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: win championship. I think that tarn Is just said. Now,

1159
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: if he can win one where he's the bus driver

1160
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 3: like Charles Muss, I think we would definitely have to

1161
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: put him in that conversation. But right now I don't

1162
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 3: really have him nothing.

1163
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: But he does one next year, the whole narrative gets

1164
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 1: wiped away because that's one that he can that he

1165
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: can call his own and not have any cut on it,

1166
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: like this is this was me, Like y'all can kiss

1167
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: my ass and I want to. I went't guardable, bro, Yeah,

1168
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: I want to see it happen for him because the

1169
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: narrative is just so crazy with him. It's like people

1170
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: love to hate Kevin Durant, people love to hate Kevin

1171
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: Durant's and all he did was win.

1172
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think I think what it is with

1173
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: kd though man, because Kat doesn't actually us in is

1174
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 2: very similar to like when Kobe early years of Kobe,

1175
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: we didn't get to know Kobe really well to the end,

1176
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 2: like like where he retired, we knew Kobe more and

1177
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: Kad he's starting to kind of come out of his.

1178
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 6: Sht a little bit. He's doing his interviews more.

1179
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,560
Speaker 2: But think about Kat was kind of quiet, bro, except

1180
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 2: on Twitter he going at you, but.

1181
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, But I think I think people were

1182
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 3: upset because especially guys that that, you know, we play

1183
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 3: this game. If we knew that was acceptable, probably a

1184
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 3: lot of us would. If I, if I knew that

1185
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: was acceptable, I would have just went to Chicago. If

1186
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: I knew that that was acceptable, I would have went

1187
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 3: and played with the Spurs. If I knew that was okay,

1188
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, I would have went and

1189
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 3: played with a team that was almost there, like Utah.

1190
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 3: I don't went and play in Utah. Like if I

1191
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: knew that that was acceptable, we always thought like, nope,

1192
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 3: you the man, you the guy. You gotta get it done,

1193
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 3: you gotta stay, you gotta make trade, you gotta do this.

1194
00:55:59,360 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: You can't.

1195
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 3: And I think he did it before it was acceptable.

1196
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 3: It's acceptable now people just I want to go here,

1197
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 3: I want to do this. I want to Oh, hey,

1198
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: you play on the team playing the team. Let's get

1199
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 3: on this team and create a big three. But again,

1200
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: if I knew that was acceptable, I just went and

1201
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:23,359
Speaker 3: played with Mike with God. But no, no, no, yeah,

1202
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 3: but that was but that was by no no, But

1203
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 3: that was from from from working things like I didn't

1204
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 3: know them. I saw them and I went upstairs and

1205
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: be like, hey, bring me a penny and bring me hard.

1206
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: It ain't like I knew him. Be like, hey, man,

1207
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:37,839
Speaker 3: I know you played with Bill.

1208
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,240
Speaker 1: The game is the one Superstar is done. Yeah, everybody

1209
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: too good now. Everybody too good, Everybody too good. You

1210
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 1: gotta have somebody with you.

1211
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't do it by yourself.

1212
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: You can't do it. It's everybody's too good now. Honestly,

1213
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: the game has evolved so much. You got guys like

1214
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: when beyond him, he's seventy four doing things you've never

1215
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: never imagined, Kevin Durant, things that you've never imagined. These

1216
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: the things that Luca does, Yoki, how much the game

1217
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: has evolved from position to position? At ain't no one

1218
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: Superstar winners, no more.

1219
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 3: Ahead at him.

1220
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 5: A lot of you guys have been mentioning Kobe we

1221
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 5: A big thing is happening in a few weeks February eighth.

1222
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four.

1223
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 5: So eight twenty four, his statue is being enveiled out

1224
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 5: there in La And I'm curious, Shaq you're feeling about that?

1225
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 5: And then Lou and Bill, any moments that you have

1226
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,919
Speaker 5: with Kobe, you want to share, but Shaq you first.

1227
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 3: I definitely, it's definitely deserve. I'm I always talk about

1228
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 3: my four. Don't get three without him, right, absolutely, don't

1229
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 3: get three without big shot Bob. And you know, we

1230
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 3: went through a lot of trials and tribulations that built

1231
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 3: us into the powerhouse that we became. I revealed something

1232
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 3: on Trey's podcasts, Young Trey and how I used to

1233
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 3: handle Kobe. See when I was there, I was, I was,

1234
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 3: it was mine, everything was mine. And I see that

1235
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: he wanted that a lot of times when you get

1236
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 3: in a position like that, you you're not gonna get it.

1237
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 3: But I knew that I needed them, so I would

1238
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 3: add them on what fuck it is my team? And

1239
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 3: they were just driving crazy? Now I what I fucking man?

1240
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: Fuck all that just thought that mother fucking to me,

1241
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: you ain't you ain't good at like because remember his

1242
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: first two years, I won't say he was good, but

1243
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 3: he was young, and he would try to do something

1244
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: and be like, no, no, that ain't how to share work.

1245
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: My boy thought that fucking to me, cut did we

1246
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 3: get it? And they were driving crazy, So he'd be like,

1247
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 3: you know when he said he was in gym seventeen

1248
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 3: times a day. He was, I leave because listen, I'm

1249
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 3: you know, people always talking about, oh you you never

1250
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 3: came down in shape. Who the fuck I'm getting in

1251
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: shape for? Who I'm training for? I don't have to.

1252
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm I'm already that guy. And when I want to

1253
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 3: get ready, when I turn it on, that's when that's

1254
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 3: when it's gonna be problems. So he was he had

1255
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 3: to do that. So he pump, and I see that.

1256
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 3: It's like having a little puppy. You see the puppy bites.

1257
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 3: Now we got to train him. You smack on the head.

1258
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 3: See what they gonna do? You smack on the head

1259
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 3: and he go away. You know, you gotta sell a puppy.

1260
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 3: But you smack him and he came outside. Would just

1261
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 3: drive him crazy because I knew I was gonna need him. Motherfuck,

1262
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 3: I'm getting thirty. What you getting the next?

1263
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 7: You know?

1264
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 2: What's so dope? I just had a flashback when you

1265
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: called me. You were in you had just came out

1266
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 2: of practice, and you said, yo, be you said this

1267
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: dude gonna be the next Michael Jordan. I'll never forget

1268
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 2: that conversation. You said he young, but I could see

1269
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: he gonna be the next Michael Jordan. I remember because

1270
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: I called all the Jersey Cats after that. I was like, yo, man,

1271
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 2: Shaq said, this dude is gonna be the next Kobe.

1272
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: Nobody believed it, but eventually Kobe's gonna be the next

1273
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. After that, he just started gradually getting better,

1274
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 2: gradually to becoming who.

1275
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 3: But I would piss him off. And you know, the

1276
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 3: media people don't understand marketing. I want everybody to talk

1277
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 3: about us. Yeah, what happened to? Motherfucking Lou Williams ain't

1278
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 3: passing my football? He wanted to shoot because I know

1279
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 3: Lou Williams ain't a punking gonna say something back. But

1280
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: on the court, it was all like he knows this.

1281
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 3: Off the court, everybody's gonna do what they do when

1282
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 3: you get inside that that rectangle or that square or whatever.

1283
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 3: It's all respect, so you know what I mean. But

1284
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 3: I used to just drive him crazy on purpose, and

1285
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 3: they worked. Like people say, what would you do different?

1286
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do nothing different. Because we won three out

1287
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 3: of four, it'll be a better narrative. If we won

1288
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 3: one out of four, it didn't win any We won

1289
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 3: three out of four, I ain't the smartest cat. That's

1290
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 3: seventy five played with cold.

1291
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: I got the product of that, Yes, sir, he was cooking, cooking,

1292
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: because when I played with him, he got upset and

1293
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 1: he said, from now on out, I touched the ball

1294
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: every time down the court, y'all gonna learn what it's

1295
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 1: like to play with Kobe Bean fucking Brian. So I

1296
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: got the product of himant smacking the motes. That is

1297
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:54,959
Speaker 1: it true?

1298
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 3: Is it true? He came in the locker room and

1299
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 3: everybody was wearing his shoes like he took him back.

1300
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: And that shit out, clean that shit out?

1301
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 6: You serious? Yeah?

1302
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: This was this was the same rant. This was the

1303
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: same rant we got blue out in Portland, and he

1304
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,959
Speaker 1: just he went down the line one at a time

1305
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: and told everybody what the fuck was wrong with you

1306
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: know who?

1307
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 3: He got that from right exactly.

1308
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: He went down the line, he skipped, he skipped me,

1309
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:26,920
Speaker 1: Metaworld Piece and Brandon Bass. Everybody else got it. Everybody

1310
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: else is smoked. Everybody else got it. And we came

1311
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: in the next day for practice and I all the

1312
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: if Carlos was the equipment manager for y'all all the

1313
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: hollow He was there. Carlos come here, cool as ever,

1314
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: and he just start racking Kobe's out of motherfucker's locker.

1315
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: So being Nick Young sitting there like what you doing,

1316
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: Kobe said, don't want y'all wearing the shoes y'all motherfuck's soft.

1317
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh no, but I'm signed the Peak Chinese company. Nick

1318
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 1: signed to Adidas. So we in there crying, laughing because

1319
01:01:59,160 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: we ain't got Kobe.

1320
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: So anyway we look at you, we end.

1321
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: Up crying and laughing. But we was a product of

1322
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: big Brother making sure because by the time I was

1323
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: with him, he was the boss. You know what I'm saying.

1324
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: When when he walked in the room, everything changed. You know,

1325
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,479
Speaker 1: even when he was at the end of his career,

1326
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: he wouldn't come to practice sometimes and we started doing

1327
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: the fairwell of the practice, not because he was so

1328
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: banged up at the time. He was banged up so

1329
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: he wasn't really practicing, but he would come into the

1330
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: meetings and just change everything. We might be working on

1331
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: a scheme for three four days and Cole walk in

1332
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: and say, now we ain't doing that is that's how

1333
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: it was. That was the law. We wasn't doing it.

1334
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I learned that from from you know, this guy.

1335
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 3: So when I first got to Land, I'm I'm a

1336
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 3: I'm a corporate kid. I'm a professionally, I don't that's

1337
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 3: my first time. Man, these guys, he said, you gotta

1338
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 3: take over.

1339
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: You can't.

1340
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 3: You can't come here and be silent, like this ain't

1341
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 3: gonna work. You got to take over. So I go

1342
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 3: to LA and again I don't pay attention to players.

1343
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 3: So you know, it's like, hey, we allow you to

1344
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 3: do movies, you gotta work out. So I'm shooting Blue

1345
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 3: Chips from twelve to three. I'm working out. So I

1346
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 3: see this skinny kid and this motherfucking diaming me up

1347
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 3: every time. I'm fucking thinking he an actor? Yeah, man,

1348
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: what's your name? He'sa like, hey man, I'm Penny Hottawa.

1349
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 3: Like you play. He's like, yeah, I put my name

1350
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 3: in the draft.

1351
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:27,919
Speaker 1: You did.

1352
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 3: I say, yeah, man, I heard a Pennyhunter and say yes,

1353
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 3: I want this motherfucker with me. Bro when I tell

1354
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 3: you me and this motherfucker was magic and Kareem, he

1355
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 3: was no, but hold on, I'm like no, I'm talking

1356
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 3: summertimeh ain't no rules for everybody doing the shit. He

1357
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: I'm touching this motherfucker every time, like a dream come true,

1358
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 3: because like you know, I played with cats like LIU

1359
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 3: will that we're really good enough and they didn't have

1360
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: to pass like I play with Mark mule A due

1361
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 3: Rove every time he should like i'd be in a

1362
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 3: post and put my hands up and he would miss me.

1363
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 3: But we'ren't mad because the should go in. So I

1364
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 3: ain't really touching a lot so buck with this pennycn,

1365
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 3: I'm touching it. So I called him. I said, hey, man,

1366
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 3: I want this penny Hollderway kit man. We we got

1367
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 3: the number one pick. We're gonna go with Sea Web.

1368
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 3: So now I'm thinking about what Dee wads At. I said,

1369
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 3: tell you what if you don't get this Penny Holdoway

1370
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 3: kid up. My deal is up in two years. I'mna

1371
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 3: be looking to do other shit. So now me and

1372
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 3: my cousin Kenny, we at the house. We watching the drift.

1373
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 3: So I'm saying, so now I'm gonna see this shit

1374
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 3: gonna work. So they drive seawb. I got ornaments and

1375
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 3: shit in my house. I break everything in my house.

1376
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 3: She motherfuckers disrespect me. They think I'm playing it. Because

1377
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 3: now this guy tell me you got to be the man.

1378
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: I'm starting to feel myself.

1379
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: Now.

1380
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I'm telling you all, I'm the man.

1381
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 3: Y'all not respect me. Now i gotta show you this

1382
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,960
Speaker 3: Jersey shit. Now, now i gotta go straight brick sat

1383
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 3: So I'm breaking the house. And then I get a

1384
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: phone call John Garret. He said, he said, we're about

1385
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 3: to make a move. I said what he said, just watch.

1386
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 3: Then they brought him Penny. I was like, oh shit.

1387
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 3: I was like, oh shit, this shit works. So by

1388
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 3: the time I got to La, I'm my own one,

1389
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 3: my ship. That's how we're doing it. Suicide, No, I

1390
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,400
Speaker 3: don't think so practice at eight nice. So it's it's

1391
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 3: but like we're winning a little bit, so it's working.

1392
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 3: So that's how I was with everybody. So that's where

1393
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 3: he got that front because I'm like like.

1394
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: A fifteen year beef with Penny. That yeah, fifteen year

1395
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: I'm from I'm originally from Memphis, moved to Atlanta when

1396
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 1: I was nine. I was telling Bill this off camera.

1397
01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:29,080
Speaker 1: So Penny was a god to me, do you know

1398
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He was at Memphis State. I didn't

1399
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: watch pro basketball. At that time, I watched college basketball

1400
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: because Penny Hardaway was the biggest thing that we've ever

1401
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: seen in my neighborhood. And I never met him, never

1402
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: had been around him or anything. And I finally got

1403
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: an opportunity to meet him, and he played the shit

1404
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: out of the bed. He did the same to Kobe.

1405
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: He played this ship out of bed, and I carried

1406
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: that with me for a long time. It was it

1407
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: was funny. It was I didn't happen my my senior

1408
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: year in high school. He's at the end of his career.

1409
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: He's with the Knicks now. So so now at this time,

1410
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: agents are starting to come in different shoe reps or whatever.

1411
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: So my Nike rep at the time he had Penny too,

1412
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: so he know how I felt about Penny. So he's like, Yo,

1413
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 1: Nick's about to play the Hawks. I'll bring you to

1414
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: the game, introduce you to Penny. I'm like a kid

1415
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: in the candy store line. I never met him, so

1416
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: game played. After the game, walk over to him, he

1417
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: come out of the back. And now that I'm seventeen

1418
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: years pro, I understand now because after them games, you

1419
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 1: really just want to see your family and get up

1420
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 1: out of there. You know what I'm saying, And so

1421
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 1: I understood what he was going through, but at that

1422
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: moment I did, I couldn't. I didn't appreciate it. So

1423
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: they walked me over to him and my man said, YO,

1424
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: this is Lou Williams kid thinking about going to the

1425
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: League out of high school.

1426
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 3: NA he give up