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Speaker 1: not nobody that got sickle cell. But I was just like,

425
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: for my I don't believe Oh also, I don't believe

426
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: in like um soul mates, I don't believe in that.

427
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: I believe in you choose who you want to be

428
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: with and then you of the covenant, like you just

429
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: make the choice to like stay true to what you

430
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: said you was gonna do in sickness and all the

431
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: stuff that you they read and you said, all right, cool, Yeah,

432
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: I just believe that you follow that and that's that's

433
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: your soul. Whoever you signed the thing too that I

434
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: just believe like that. So I so I always felt

435
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 1: like if I get to choose, and I want to

436
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: choose who I want to be with, you know what

437
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I always feel like I wanna be

438
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: with somebody who I deemed healthy, and guy got on

439
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: my head. I was like, what make you think you

440
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: know what healthy really is? What? Uh, what makes you

441
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: think you can't just go out and get somebody that

442
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: you deemed healthy and they die in a car crash

443
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: or uh get hit by a straight bullet or something

444
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: like that. And it was like, Okay, I don't really

445
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: understand the concept of uh health like that, and why

446
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 1: would I be out here looking for the next best

447
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 1: thing when the best thing is here with me. So

448
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: once I had revelation in those three areas, I had

449
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 1: no problem hitting up and be like, hey, I wanna

450
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: be with you and she but it had been so

451
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: long since we had even talked like that that she

452
00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: didn't really believe me when I said that, Like she

453
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: was like, okay, stop, what you can tell? You know

454
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? How you respond to when I told

455
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: you that? I just didn't think you were serious? And yeah,

456
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 1: I didn't think he was that serious because I mean

457
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: it was we had the long friendship and like you know,

458
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: throughout the friendship, it was like as he, uh, you

459
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That type of thing. And so

460
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: then like when we got in together, I was like, Okay, cool,

461
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: we're about to this about to be a thing. And

462
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: he broke up with me. So then I was like, ah, no,

463
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to play these games with you. Once

464
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: that year went by, I was like and when he

465
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: started trying to come back around, I was like, no,

466
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm good. And then I have had a close friend

467
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: at the time she was like, don't be so like,

468
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: don't be like so closed off. So we become bitter. Um,

469
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: if he's showing you something different, just watch him, and

470
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: he was. He was extremely different, um from like all

471
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: our past situation, and so I just began to watch

472
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: him and it opened my heart back up to being

473
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: in a relationship with him. It was a big part

474
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 1: of your acceptance of finally surrendering to the relationship, the

475
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: fact that that was independent, moving on our own, not

476
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: looking for help, doing something positive, you know, in the community.

477
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: It's not one of the things that you did. Did

478
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: you not want to miss out on that? It seemed

479
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,200
Speaker 1: like she had it together and you didn't want to

480
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: miss out on that. Not that I don't want to

481
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: miss out on that. On that I didn't want to

482
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: miss out on her specifically because I knew for a

483
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: fact that she loved me for me, because the whole,

484
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: the whole, that whole time period, I didn't have nothing,

485
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: and I was broke, Like I had vision and stuff

486
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: like that, but I was I was in poverty. Like

487
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 1: she would give me her last And I come from

488
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 1: what this was so crazy. So I come from such

489
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: a like, uh, impoverished mindset that like she are you good?

490
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: I come from such an impoverished mindset that she would

491
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: let me hold something. She wouldn't let me hold something,

492
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: she would give it. She would give me something, well

493
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: it was money, food, whatever, And in my mind, I'm thinking,

494
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: all right, I need to hurry up and get whatever

495
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: so I can pay her back, because I know in

496
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: the back of her mind she's thinking, I R it's

497
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: been about two or three with and I would like

498
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: make mention of it lightly and she'd be like, yeah,

499
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: I gave you that. You don't have to pay me

500
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: back for that. And she would always tell me stuff

501
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 1: like that. I'm like, oh, man, I know you're just

502
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: saying that. And I would make like like jokes and stuff.

503
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: She was like, yeah, you'll be doing that a lot.

504
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't know why you do that because like that's

505
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: your own thing, Like I get when I give you stuff,

506
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: I'm not looking for blah blah blah blah. And it

507
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: took me a while to even just like except that that, oh,

508
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: she really just fool with me for me, and that's

509
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: like all right, cool, I don't want to miss out

510
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: on that because it's rare to find somebody who just

511
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: it don't matter what it is that you do, whether

512
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: I was doing because I wasn't doing the music stuff.

513
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: I was just volunteering. I was broke, and she was like,

514
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: yeah that this this is what I want to be with,

515
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, cool, if if if that's if

516
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: that's if that's the truth, then okay, then I need

517
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: This is what I truly need and it's what I

518
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: really want, you know what I'm saying. So to your point,

519
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: you hadn't always done music, you just football? Start in

520
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: high school? He played ball? And did you play ball?

521
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: Was a football start in college? To college? Fayeah? Yeah?

522
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: You intee kind of what is the University of North

523
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: Texas North the northern part of UTU. You must got

524
00:29:53,560 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: more letters so you know you know, okay, but but

525
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: did you injured? You got it in how how man,

526
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: how did that impact your psyche? You know, like you

527
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: got injured and you know you had these aspirations to go,

528
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: you know, playing the league. You know, that's the that's

529
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: the only actual dream I ever had in my life.

530
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: This musical stuff and this entertainment stuff don't have nothing.

531
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: People really be like they really be on something like, man,

532
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: he living his dream, his dreams are coming true. I'm like, nah,

533
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: I wanted to be the next Ray Lewis. That's it.

534
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: That's the that's the that was like. So when the

535
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: people just come and talk to the school and he

536
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, you might want to have a backup

537
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: plan because football don't always work out for everybody. I

538
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: used to be like, yeah, everybody that's not good on

539
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: this team, he's talking to y'all, I'm gonna yeah, I'm

540
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: gonna hit the league. Yeah. So that was the only

541
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: dream I ever had. So when it didn't happen, I

542
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 1: had to figure out, all right, who was told outside

543
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: of told the football player? And I had to like

544
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: really disconnect from the many of the world and figure out,

545
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: all right, what is my specific purpose? And it took

546
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: me like a long time, a year or so to

547
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 1: really be able to even articulate that my purpose is

548
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: to be a kind with to the realization of purpose

549
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: in other people's lives. And whatever vehicle guy got me

550
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: have a similar story and even a not like I played.

551
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: I played football. Also I was. I wasn't lying back.

552
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: You played football, and this is serious ship, this real

553
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: ship serious. When I played football, I was a kid.

554
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave the league. Come on, come on, Brad.

555
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: So same same same scenario, same story. Um, I was

556
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: a band, I was a nice running back, and they

557
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: hit my ass with that no pass, no play. Yeah,

558
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: and oh that's when they just came out. I don't

559
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: want my last time, it's my last time talking, told

560
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: me again. I like. But but that no pass, no

561
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: play kind of screwed me over because like, I wasn't

562
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,719
Speaker 1: really in the school. The only reason why I went

563
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: to school is to play football, right and then and

564
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: then I rapped on the side. I was gonna play football,

565
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 1: and I was gonna rap because he was rapping back then,

566
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: twenty five years ago. To believe it or not, but

567
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: I was a really good rapper two and I was

568
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: a really good football playing, so to no pass. No

569
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: playing put me to the point where I didn't even

570
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: want to go to school no more. I dropped out

571
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: of school. I was just that fairly with schools. I

572
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: can't play football, I don't want to go. So from

573
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: from there, I was forced to do the same thing

574
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: to to put put down put my life down in words.

575
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: So we share similar journeys. Bro. I wanted to play football.

576
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: That was my first love. I just knew for a

577
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: fact I was gonna be the next Earl Campbells. That

578
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: was fat. Did you ever want to do anything other

579
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: than what you're doing there? Um? I mean my story

580
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: is a little bit different. I grew up like my mom.

581
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: My mom's a single mother and it was six of us,

582
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: and so, um, she did a phenomenal job at always

583
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: telling me I could literally do whatever I wanted to do,

584
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: and so I had my my mind was open to

585
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: whatever I wanted to do. So I was trying all

586
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: these different things and I was good at all of them,

587
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: and I didn't like eat none of them. And so

588
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: then I was just like, all right, cool, I'm gonna Um.

589
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 1: I just like up and moved to Houston with my

590
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: best friend at the time from Grand Rapids, Michigan. Yep,

591
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: uh yeah, yea, And um, you know, I had done

592
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: some schooling and stuff, but I hated I hated college. Um,

593
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: I was good at it, but I just it was

594
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: something I just I didn't I just didn't like it.

595
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: And so I just I just felt like, I just

596
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: don't want to say that because I just I believe

597
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: that if that, if schooling is for you and education

598
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: for you, do it. I just felt like it was

599
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: a waste of my time because I felt like what

600
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be doing I could do. I

601
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: could I could lock in and do that specifically, I

602
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: don't have to do all these different subjects that I'm

603
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: not gonna do nothing with, you know what I mean.

604
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about when I was going through

605
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: my reading write yeah, and I feel like what I

606
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,919
Speaker 1: was trying to do wasn't like it wasn't healthcare, wasn't law,

607
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,240
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, those type of fields where you actually

608
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: need that information. It was just I feel like it

609
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: was just gonna take my money. And so, um, I

610
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: my best friend at the time got to teach and

611
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: fellowship and she was like, hey, you trying to go

612
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: and we had always talked about going. So I told

613
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: my family I was leaving, and um, they didn't believe

614
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: me because nobody left, Like we just didn't leave, We

615
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: just we were all there. And so, um, when I

616
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: was leaving, the dare was even nobody came to like

617
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: say nothing to me. My god, Mom drove me to

618
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: Detroit to the airport. I left Michigan with a duffel

619
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: bag of my clothes and sixties seven dollars in my

620
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: pocket and left. And I haven't had to go back

621
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: and live at home at all, because I, you know,

622
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: did what I wanted to do, and that was get

623
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: out of get out of the hamster wheel. Like that's

624
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: that's what I always wanted to do. I didn't want

625
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: to become another statistic. So it's not like I wanted

626
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: to be like this athlete or this phenomenal. It was

627
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a statistic. I gotta change

628
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: something so that I don't end up like that. And

629
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: so I did, and I moved to Houston, and I

630
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: just kind of like found my way. But what was

631
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: the connection to Houston? But it was just random. It

632
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: was my my friend at the time, she got a

633
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: teaching fellowship, and it was like they gave her like

634
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: maybe like for six cities that she could go to

635
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: our states that she go to, and um Texas and

636
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: Houston was one of them. And I was like, oh,

637
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: the weather is good there, Let's go very young. Yeah,

638
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't encourage nobody else to just say what the

639
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: weather is in a certain place. We moved, We moved,

640
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: she went down there, I'm telling you. And that's why

641
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: every time we go back, I was like, I want

642
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: to go where the heat is every single time we go. Yeah, absolutely,

643
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: every time we go back to the Grand Rapp. But

644
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: I'm constantly trying to convince all of you know, y'all,

645
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: y'all could just like you ain't gotta do this. You

646
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 1: got to say, oh, I'm talking about random people on

647
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: the street. You know you ain't. There's other places in

648
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: America and you could just leave and just go. You know,

649
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: you can right go go to Detroit, go to anywhere

650
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: outside of Grand Rappers. No, no offense to anybody from

651
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: the from g rap You know what I'm saying, I

652
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: fool with You'll have brobably the best name. You know

653
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh, since Floyd out of Grand Rappids.

654
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 1: But it's just not a place for me in minevoting

655
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: podcast will be right back after the poet. A lot

656
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: of things have changed for you guys over the last

657
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: maybe three years or so. It's your rise has been METIORC.

658
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: Just watching you guys are doing. Every time I look around,

659
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: y'all got to be tearwards y'all on some type of commercial.

660
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: I heard you that you just signed up for the

661
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: Transformers movie, not signed up, that they already shot you

662
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 1: were Transforming. Say I'm the man, they say I'm a

663
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: new tree. Come on, I'm like getting need to shave

664
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: it off. But they say, can you talk about the row?

665
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah yeah. It's a real role.

666
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: Though it ain't like bro, it's a transform It ain't

667
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: one of those This is like yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

668
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, real life by ten pages. I ain't

669
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: gonna hold you. Yeah. First acting role we've never been in. Nothing,

670
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: wasn't even in the school play. They said I wasn't

671
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 1: good enough. I feel with Michael Jordan be saying about

672
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: high school stuff. Yeah I couldn't get into school play.

673
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: But now you know saying yeah, Stephen Capel Jr. I

674
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: that's the first black director for Transformers. He was the

675
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: one who had a Paramount hit me up yeah Canada

676
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: for Yeah, yeah, we shouted in Montreal. But this is why,

677
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: this why I got a loving respect for Paramount though,

678
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: because when they asked me to do the role and

679
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: I did, I really wanted to do the role, but

680
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: I told him I can't come, and let's my whole

681
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: family come and they said, all right, cool, it's it's cool.

682
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: Everybody could come. So we was all in Montreal. Yeah, yeah,

683
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: it was all getting it in first time ever, the

684
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: first time in Canada. And yeah, they really think Montreal

685
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: as France for some reason. It's they really be out

686
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: there like this is I'm like, you know this Canada

687
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: but this Yeah, they really feel like his friends. Beautiful

688
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: family man family, family, family, and I admired it man. Yeah.

689
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: And then that was two, and then that was five.

690
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: I looked around up the five kids come from. No,

691
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: we got three kids? Now we got three, three kids

692
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: three and under three years. Yeah, three under three, that's

693
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: what we had. Yeah, but not like you just hearing

694
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: three though. Yeah, we got three under three. Yeah. So

695
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 1: we're backing back, yeah, back to back to back. Yeah,

696
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: so they all be grown together and you get your

697
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: house back. Yeah, we don't have a couple more. Yeah,

698
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: we gotta go. You know what I'm saying. How many

699
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: sisters and brothers do you have? I'm one of six

700
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: and okay, so y'all come from Yeah, relatively speaking, relatively speak,

701
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: I guess. I guess five six is kind of medium. Yeah,

702
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: it's large. Would be more like nine ten. Yeah, that's

703
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: what I'm head. You know, Nigerians they get acting bad.

704
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: How many you got one? Right? One sister? Yeah? Um no,

705
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: I got zena. I can't say your name complicated? Yeah fine, yeah,

706
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: but my mom only got one. Yeah. I don't like

707
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: seeing people names. They'll be like, so your brother yea,

708
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: please please bleep my sisters name out of there. Come

709
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: get to check check you said my name? Mother? Hey,

710
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: so the babies, yes, do you guys? You gotta did

711
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: you guys property? You know what I'm saying. What I'm saying,

712
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: y'all grown? Yeah, a little older than that, I said.

713
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: Oh man, wow, that's a legendary. Oh boy, that's the babies. Yes, sir,

714
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: do y'all want the babies to be because y'all feel

715
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: them a lot, you know, like I see him like that,

716
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm um open to whatever they feel like God is

717
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: telling them that their purpose is. I don't. I don't

718
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: want to put them in any type of box because

719
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: that's not my life. But if you're confident that you

720
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: know that's what you're supposed to be doing, then okay,

721
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: let's figure this out. You know. But right now we

722
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: can see, we can see artistic and creative and like

723
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: music abilities, and all of them are as as young

724
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: as they are, so it's just awayn gag. Really yeah,

725
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: So I feel like whatever their purpose is, like figure

726
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: that out and then do that. I would prefer that

727
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: they didn't do in a tainment and stuff like that

728
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: just because of what comes with it. Well, let me

729
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: tell you. I say like this, I wouldn't mind them

730
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: doing entertainment stuff if they knew exactly who they was, yeah,

731
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: and what they that's literally our goals. Yeah, as long

732
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: as you know who you are and what your purpose

733
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: is and like you know what I'm saying, how to

734
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: operate in this world, like you can do whatever it

735
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: is that you want to do. Yeah, but but with

736
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: with entertainment stuff and with popularity and with fame and

737
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: stuff like that comes it's a lot of stuff that

738
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: if you're not really mentally prepared for, spiritually prepared for. Yeah, yeah,

739
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: they can hit you with the oaky dog real quick

740
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: and you'll fall for it just because you you know,

741
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: saying got some like gaping hold and what it is

742
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: that you're supposed to be doing. You don't have any trepidations,

743
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,240
Speaker 1: both of you. I does you have any trepidation about

744
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: your kids? Yeah? Yeah, we get that. That's a trick

745
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, I talk, let me talk, come on,

746
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: But do y'all have any trepidation about the kids being attacked?

747
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: Because you know, it's a lot of trolls and just

748
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: holes out there who would attack innocent children just to

749
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: try just because they're jealous of the kids and they're

750
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: jealous of what their parents do. You know who they

751
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: think about stuff like that. Because I am a very

752
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: serious person when it comes to being mine. I'm just

753
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: a very serious person. And I have no problem throwing hand, No,

754
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 1: not throwing hand. I have no problem dying for what

755
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 1: I believe. I will die peace. I'm at my last

756
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: little breath. That's good. I feel at peace dying for

757
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: what I believe, and I believe you. I believe like

758
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 1: zero fear. Yeah, I'm not worried. I'm not. I'm not

759
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: worried or concerned about that, only because we don't we

760
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: don't just be having our kids around a whole bunch

761
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: of like people that don't mean it's good, you know

762
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like we keep our circle tight with

763
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: our children, and they don't like so on social media,

764
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: Like I don't even look at the comments like it

765
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: really that much about it, because I know it's always

766
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: people in there that are hurting. And then they'll just

767
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: project project, project check, and I'm just like, I'm not.

768
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not here for that, here for none

769
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: of that. I'm not here for that. So how do

770
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 1: you know if the people are feeling what you're doing?

771
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: If you're not going to read me, you know, I

772
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: keep I keep the temperature on that. Yeah, I keep

773
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: the temperature on that, and and I pay attention to

774
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: the to the people who it's full. Oh it's gonna

775
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: sound bad, and I ain't gonna saying like that. I

776
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: say it don't matter. Uh yeah, So if you ain't

777
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: from if you ain't let's say, if you don't come

778
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: from where I come from, and you ain't experienced the

779
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: type of things that I experienced growing up. I truly

780
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,280
Speaker 1: don't care about nothing that it is that you're saying.

781
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: You're like, yo, I don't know why he was. I'm like, yeah,

782
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't care if you don't understand

783
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: or get or yeah. So it's a lot of people

784
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: that's not from where I'm from, who says who might

785
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: have an opinion about what it is and I'm doing. Yeah,

786
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: And I've gotten to a place where if if it's

787
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 1: too frequent, I'm not I'm gonna save you your energy

788
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna block you follow me. Yeah, I'm

789
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 1: just gonna block you because you can't do it yourself.

790
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: Something in you is like drawing to somebody who's doing

791
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: stuff that's not for you, and you really want to

792
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: spill all your negativity over here. So I was just like,

793
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: all right, let me help you. Let me just block you,

794
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: let me just delete your little access to it, so

795
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: you don't even have to do that no more. You

796
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: could just be happy with whatever it is that you're doing.

797
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And I don't have to

798
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: waste time trying to see what what the people that

799
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: I'm servicing are trying to receive from us like and

800
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: how to like be of better service and have to

801
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: like skim through the trash you keep putting out on

802
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying on this stuff because I'm

803
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: really trying to like service my people. Yeah, yeah, you guys.

804
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: When you but at you, I'm dope that was the one, right,

805
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: That's the one set it off? Right? Yeah? I know

806
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: you had other songs before that, because you are you

807
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: are already booking your big show and all of that stuff,

808
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I'm dope king I

809
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: would say that, how did that song come about? Um?

810
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah? But who hit us up? Earth it was?

811
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: It was? Yeah, No, no, what's it Dave to hit

812
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:58,800
Speaker 1: us up first? So Mo, yeah it was Moto Dave.

813
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: Y'all was all backstage at a show that Dave had

814
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: is either in Houston or somewhere. I don't know where

815
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 1: I was at. No, I told Dave I was with

816
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: me and Mo was together. Oh Mo, you hear that

817
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: moment now, I said, what you said? The uncle Willie said,

818
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: he told now what he used to fight. I don't

819
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: know if you wanted to have to take that descripty

820
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:27,479
Speaker 1: of men men MO was together and MO was playing

821
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: the music. Unt More was playing your music. We were

822
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: we were all backstage somewhere I don't know, but we

823
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: were backstage, and I think it was Dave and it

824
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: was a lot of people that was other big comedians. Yeah,

825
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: but I didn't know more at that time. Yeah, but

826
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 1: I knew you. We had sat down and that I think,

827
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: and you hit me up on FaceTime. That's how it happened.

828
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: So MO was s playing the music backstage, listening to

829
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: the music, and then I facetimed you and then it

830
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 1: was like yo, and then I was telling you about

831
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: and about to do the bt uh board for the

832
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: first time. But we were about to do bre We

833
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: were like the little side show that was two right,

834
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: the cipher that wasn't it wasn't a cipher what we

835
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: want to sip. No, it wasn't a side. But it

836
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: was just like like the days before. It was your

837
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: first first appearance on the siphone on the cipher. Yeah. Yeah,

838
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: we she mirked it. Thank you appreciate so so so

839
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: Dave get it over to Erica. Yes, and then Dereka

840
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: she hit us up. You up, you dope. How did

841
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: your mom feel about that? Corus? When you said my

842
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: mama thought I was he told me, I'm My mama

843
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: knew I was telling the truth because this is the

844
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: whole time I started doing the entertainment stuff and uh

845
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: rapping and all that type of stuff. My mom I'm

846
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: talking about consistently. I would come in the house and

847
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: be like, hey Mom, what's going on? She was like

848
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: to be when we just stop with in your life?

849
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't talking about instant. It wasn't even a high.

850
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: Hey mom, why do you look so much? It was

851
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: like instant, It's like. But she kept that same energy

852
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: throughout the whole time where I was trying to build

853
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: the build the foundation. But I told her, I said,

854
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: hey look mom, listen and she and she could like

855
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: she say it herself. I said, listen, when it happens

856
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: when all these people started asking you questions, do not

857
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,719
Speaker 1: a lot of not now one of these people, make

858
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: sure you tell them exactly what just do not make

859
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: it seem like yo. I believed in my son. I

860
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: knew he died. I don't want to hear none of that.

861
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: You tell him exactly what you told me, and you

862
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: tell him exactly how I kept pushing through even your comments,

863
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: and she, oh yeah, she said something like it seemed

864
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: like she was more you know, you know I'm saying

865
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 1: it seemed like she was with ros Yeah, yeah, this

866
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: is that. That's the matter. What catn't do if you stay,

867
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: you'll I said, you know I'm saying, and I let

868
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It was some moment I

869
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: didn't want to take away from it. I just can't.

870
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: You gonna tell about that. But it's cool. But yeah,

871
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: so so my mom yeah so, but she she kept

872
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: saying that and she and she knew it was the truth.

873
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: When I said my mama thought I was a joke,

874
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: because she definitely did. And she said, what that here

875
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 1: I see her light telling the truth to your song. Yeah.

876
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, so man, I'm beyond proud of you, bro.

877
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: Thank you man. And and and outside of me, me

878
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: and a fan, man, I just watched the whole thing.

879
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: Was like I had a front row seat to your movement, bro,

880
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, I love it, bro. I

881
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: love it man, I love it. I love him. Thank

882
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: you man. That is so beautiful man. And you know

883
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: what was even more beautiful, You remain Yeah independent you

884
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: remain booking and you know I just started doing yeah,

885
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,760
Speaker 1: booking at my own venues and doing this ship myself.

886
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm just starting. Yeah, but I see why. Yeah,

887
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I can actually go

888
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: somewhere and call and and and impact the house. Yeah.

889
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: But it blew my mind that more people weren't doing

890
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: it because even with booking agencies, right, we didn't know

891
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: it existed. Yeah, really really really did it first. So

892
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: so and and this is my thing, I think me

893
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: not having no fore knowledge of the industry, really it

894
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 1: really helped you more than anything. Yeah, because I didn't

895
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: know how stuff was supposed to go. So I'm just

896
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: a very practical person. So when they say, alright, cool,

897
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna need a certain percentage two, set your your

898
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: tours and your and and get the venues, I'm just like,

899
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: all right, cool, tell me why what specifically are y'all doing.

900
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, yeah, we're gonna call the venue to

901
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: make sure that they got the dates and that I

902
00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: said I could call the playbol If that's we're just

903
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: calling the people just the number. Yeah, I ain't even

904
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: gonna ask you if you're just up the venue what's

905
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: the number. And then I see the number and I'm

906
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: gonna call you myself. I'm like, so what am I

907
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: giving you a percentage for? And they couldn't make it

908
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: make sense for me at I'm just like, all right, y'all,

909
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: gotta make it make sense because in my mind, I

910
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: just don't I don't understand why you would get that

911
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: type of percentage off of all of my even my

912
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,240
Speaker 1: uh merch ideas. I'm just like, you get a percentage

913
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: of all that for calling the people. And I was

914
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, yeah, Unfortunately I ain't gonna be able

915
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: to do it. And then I just kept on like,

916
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: come on, man, laughing. This is great though, because it's

917
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: it's so good for other independent artists to hear this

918
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: coming from an independent artist that's successful. Your successful, bro.

919
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: I freaking know you, bro, I know you bro, so

920
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: dope man. I'm I'm so impressed man, And I'm just

921
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: grateful to have UH artists that come up up under

922
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 1: us that are so dope and and doing their things

923
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: and they don't have, you know, big brother hand on them.

924
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:15,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like the powers that bees

925
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: hand their hands not on you. They can't control your movement.

926
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying. You get on your bus, you

927
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: go to your venue that you booked out yourself, and

928
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: they cut you a check at the end of the night.

929
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: That's how you do it. I love it, man, And

930
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: that is important for all these independent artists to know

931
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: that if you're dope. Yeah that if you're dope, come

932
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: on and you gotta show and people want to see you.

933
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: You out of there, Hey man, you could do it.

934
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: It's a done deal. It's a done deal. Man. When

935
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: people are bragging on y'all show, you know, your visuals

936
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, people shows body, body itself, they

937
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 1: be like, ain't going nobody, don't go by myself. When

938
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: when people when people bragg on your show and stuff

939
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: like that, back on your visuals, do you guys understand, like, oh, unique,

940
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: what you guys are doing? Do you do? You do

941
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 1: you think it ain't no big deal? At first? I

942
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: at first I used to feel like it's not no

943
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: big deal, bro, you know what I'm saying. And I

944
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: used to feel like that because I'm like, yo, it's

945
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: not like extremely elaborate or like this is why I

946
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: was trippling, because it ain't really cost us a lot. Yeah,

947
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:32,800
Speaker 1: some of the stuff, but it ain't cost us a

948
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: lot to do something like yeah, it's it's cool, it's

949
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: it's different, but it was we were forced to be

950
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: different than that man because we ain't had no resources,

951
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 1: so we had to get creative, like all right, how

952
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: can we make this different than everybody else? Stuff? And

953
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: people like receive a certain way. So I used to

954
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,439
Speaker 1: really feel like early on like it ain't no big deal,

955
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: but not atout, thank you. But but now, like you

956
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, I understand exactly what it is

957
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: that I'm doing. I fully am aware, like okay, this

958
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: is extremely special. And then like with the partnership and

959
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 1: like hearing stuff from uh legends, like y'all uh legends,

960
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying for real in them,

961
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,359
Speaker 1: and being able to partner with Beyonce for the Ivy

962
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: Park stuff, and just like being able to make like

963
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: make these different connections. I'm like, oh, okay, cool. I

964
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: thought it was I thought it was just I I

965
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: thought it was cool we're doing something different. But now

966
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: I understand exactly how special it is because like the

967
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: were hidden different were getting different types of relationships. We're

968
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: able to make different types of things happened. I'm like, Okay,

969
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: there's nobody doing what it is that we're doing, and

970
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, and it takes a different level of

971
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,360
Speaker 1: integrity and character to do it, Like it is like

972
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: not just talent, but you gotta have the integrity and

973
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: the character to move like we're moved into. So it's

974
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: not just about like, oh, I'm rapping sweet or fattest

975
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: saying uh rapping sweet, Like we really believe the stuff

976
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: that we're saying, and we really move how we you know,

977
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, how we put it out there. So

978
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: it's like it's very rare that you can find people

979
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: people that move like us in today's society. What's your

980
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: energy level compared to two thousand and seventeen when you

981
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: got out there, Jim, when you what's that energy level

982
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: and your motivational level? I got you. It's very simple.

983
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: I got a wife and kids playing. Yeah, now I

984
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: got a wife and kids. So I moved as if

985
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: like what they experience in life depends on it. I

986
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: was just able to take my kids and my wife.

987
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: It was the first time ever going overseas. A couple

988
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, we went to Milan, Italy through the

989
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: relationship that we established with for Real. For Real looked

990
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: out for us and said, listen, I designed something for

991
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: can we talk about I was just like you, I

992
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 1: don't know if he's supposed to be say, don't matter,

993
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: all right, so I ain't gonna say the whole thing,

994
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: but something I want you to go over there and

995
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: like holding out and it was a whole gig and everything,

996
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: and it allowed my execution and what it is that

997
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: we're doing allowed me to provide my family with experience

998
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 1: that we would never have unless I was doing what

999
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be doing. So yeah, so I'm moved

1000
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: with that type of mindset, like I need to do

1001
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: what I need to do at the highest level because

1002
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: like I'm shaping all my kids, like my my wife.

1003
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking. We had a phenomenal experience eight food. Ain't

1004
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: feeling no GMOs, nothing like that type of stuff in

1005
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: the food we eat, like you could taste the freshness.

1006
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: We were just in the Milano streets, were out there talking.

1007
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: We full fledged and the galleons, Oh that's uh a

1008
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: negro in Italy. Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm in. Then you

1009
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: ain't gotten no more, it's time for you to go.

1010
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: How would you like to be remembered as somebody who

1011
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: died empty out about just say, you don't know what

1012
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: I wanted? Yeah, yeah, somebody who died empty, who ain't

1013
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: leaving no potential on the table. I'm gonna do it

1014
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: like that, somebody who walked out empty evenly I'm nothing.

1015
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: You're not dying, bro, just walking out empty, didn't leave

1016
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: nothing on the table. Man. We see a whole lot

1017
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,439
Speaker 1: of the same views man and man Like, I say,

1018
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you coming out and talk with us,

1019
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: Willie um Man. This was great that, you know, this

1020
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: was really this was really his whole movement. He was like,

1021
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: what you're thinking about Toby? I like what we should

1022
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: have been at him? On him? Man, damn, I'm gonna

1023
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: call you know, Toby Toby people these days thankfully next

1024
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: to him at culture very and then somebody was trying

1025
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: to wine and dine, he was like, yeah, swing, so

1026
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: give me this, give me this, give me this, give

1027
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: me this, and then come try and talk to talk

1028
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, yeahs back then, man, I didn't love

1029
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: how he handled that situation, you know, because they were

1030
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: trying to court me at the same time. You can't

1031
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: court two different people at the same time. But and

1032
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: this is my thing. I'll say this because at the

1033
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: end of the day, we really don't be doing a

1034
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: whole lot of interviews and stuff like that, because at

1035
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: the core of my being, I truly don't care about

1036
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: coming and sitting down and talking with people like that.

1037
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 1: But I really do. I really got a lot of love,

1038
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: especially for Uncle Willy. But but you don't like me

1039
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 1: like we didn't. We didn't, we didn't locked in a

1040
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: little a little different set down like topped games and

1041
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: stuff and we did uh at that time, and uh coach,

1042
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: But y'all are really legends. And I got a lot

1043
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: of respect for like what y'all done in the industry

1044
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: three and like how y'all still have stayed together. And

1045
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: I know, like people go through stuff. Life happened, situations happened,

1046
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: and I got a lot of respect for how y'all move,

1047
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: how ya operate, like y'all doing yawn your own podcasts.

1048
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying. I know, Uh, I

1049
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: just got a lot of respect and a lot of love.

1050
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: Appreciate falling out you know, Willie. Willie has always been uh,

1051
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: my big brother. Well, I talked a lot of ship

1052
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: about Willie. When I see him, I don't speak to him.

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Speaker 1: You've seen it, everybody in the room seven. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: that's my big brother, man. I appreciating him and just love.

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Speaker 1: We have never felt out even when he left the group.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't, man. You know how some people lead a

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Speaker 1: group to be mad at him. And Willie left the group,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't even mad. I like he wasn't mad. He

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Speaker 1: just said in one of his songs, we lost the

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Speaker 1: member back in December. I go with it, lost the

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Speaker 1: member back in Yeah, I remember that ship. I love you.

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Speaker 1: I gotta go. What are you on one? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? Now we're done, man, we're done. But thank

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Speaker 1: you man, thank you, Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen. Don't

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Speaker 1: be in the weak way on gentlemen, my tica, the

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Speaker 1: man I am d in the building. I am so

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Speaker 1: proud of you, bro, like I saw it, I saw

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Speaker 1: the whole man. You know, William might be better friends

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Speaker 1: than me and you is. But that's not for long. Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start calling this ship. We're gonna try to

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Speaker 1: get you in the crypto. I'm already like you already.

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Speaker 1: This episode was produced by A King and brought to

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Speaker 1: you by the Black Effect Podcast Network at I Heart

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