Speaker 1: On today's upisode The Command Center Podcast, we have RFK news,
Speaker 1: exciting for fans, exciting for DC. Can't wait to talk
Speaker 1: about that. We've got the draft recapp Did they get
Speaker 1: five guys.
Speaker 2: That are going to start for this team?
Speaker 1: We'll talk about that's more and we can't escape it.
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Speaker 1: starts right now. Welcome to The Command Center Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: Wigan Pulson here with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss and guys.
Speaker 2: I got a bone to pick. I got a problem
Speaker 2: up right.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you guys have seen this gorilla thing that's
Speaker 1: floating around like one hundred guys versus one gorilla.
Speaker 3: I think we had this conversation a year ago.
Speaker 1: We had this conversation a year ago, and just for
Speaker 1: the record, I was talking about this same setup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was. I was still playing, I was
Speaker 1: here in Washington. I want to say it was like
Speaker 1: two thousand. It was Trent Murphy's rookie year, so twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1: So this has been on my radar for well over
Speaker 1: a decade. Man versus animal man and specifically a gorilla.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a gorilla.
Speaker 1: And so obviously they've you know what I'm saying, They've
Speaker 1: changed it because I think you hurt yourself, right, like
Speaker 1: when you say, oh, one hundred dudes versus Grilla, because
Speaker 1: you got shirts, you got shoes, you got stuff, Like
Speaker 1: in mind, you're butt naked.
Speaker 2: How many people needn't take to beat the gorilla that's mine?
Speaker 3: So you want to, you won't even ground.
Speaker 2: I want to. Gorilla is naked, that's what I want
Speaker 2: to see.
Speaker 4: See he's in his habitat when he has no shoes on.
Speaker 4: You need shoes, you need something to get away from
Speaker 4: his ass.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like in this room, there's there's a
Speaker 1: silver back grilla over there in the corner. How many
Speaker 1: people does it take if you're in your birthday suit
Speaker 1: to beat that thing today?
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you that.
Speaker 4: I think I remember saying I'm going to exit the
Speaker 4: room and let y'all do what y'all do.
Speaker 3: But I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but I do remember us talking about
Speaker 4: this way before.
Speaker 1: So Jason kept the receipts in August of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about it. We have comments on the
Speaker 2: video like ye man versus and so yeah.
Speaker 1: Fans, I'm a little disappointed. You guys were like, man,
Speaker 1: I've heard this before.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like why not say commands in the podcast say
Speaker 5: it this like, no, mister, he sprawled because anything you
Speaker 5: missed the beach, dude, it's cool.
Speaker 3: But Commands said that we just dudes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do think, like, you know, the hundred
Speaker 1: guys is interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I've asked some like Special Forces dudes this question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they kind of look at you, you know,
Speaker 1: they got that tough face and like five five.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you gotta tell him no. Women like come on, like,
Speaker 5: let's be honest.
Speaker 2: So you get this.
Speaker 1: The first time I asked the Special Forces guys and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, in this room, right hair, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no mic stands, everything's gone. He goes okay, and
Speaker 1: he looks up at the ceiling and he's like what
Speaker 1: is What do you think that is? And I was
Speaker 1: like it's probably dry wall, and he's like, I could
Speaker 1: punch through that and there's probably piping in there. And
Speaker 1: I pulled some stuff out, pull some screws out, and
Speaker 1: I was like, this dude is just on a different different.
Speaker 3: He's looking for whom did you can't.
Speaker 1: One guy's like, I think I could probably get electrocute
Speaker 1: him with the outlet, and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: So basically telling you that the humans won't fight fair.
Speaker 1: I can't this. This is the thing about it that
Speaker 1: you think about it. So even if I said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you just in here by yourself, yeah, you birthday suit,
Speaker 1: go kill that gorilla, it would take probably a thousand people.
Speaker 3: Man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: There's no number because like the no, no, I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna do human beings like that, because we got some
Speaker 5: big human beings.
Speaker 3: You are big human beings.
Speaker 1: But dude, I'm telling you so, Like I think about
Speaker 1: when I fight my son, for example, so I'm two
Speaker 1: seventy my son's one hundred pounds. Yeah that's not exactly
Speaker 1: the same, but it's probably closer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would demolished.
Speaker 1: I would mess my son up if it was like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And eventually I'd get.
Speaker 2: Tired, Like if he was just like, way he go.
Speaker 5: The thing that we got that the gorilla just never have.
Speaker 5: We can pry up, we can plan, but we can
Speaker 5: plan the attack. That means we don't.
Speaker 3: Take a smart man.
Speaker 4: They know what you're thinking from the get go.
Speaker 3: As soon as you're thinking about that instinctive, they're more instinctive.
Speaker 3: Now here go.
Speaker 5: If I got ten Logans, if I got ten Logan pulses,
Speaker 5: one thing we can do is if I can get
Speaker 5: one Logan Polston around the neck, happen neck. What I'm
Speaker 5: saying is we don't hold the hands.
Speaker 3: You're crazy.
Speaker 1: Look for some This is the craziest one I heard
Speaker 1: was like, hey, I could I could do it with
Speaker 1: five people. I said, is I need someone who's really
Speaker 1: sick about to die, and then need four able bodied people.
Speaker 1: And I was like, what are you talking about. I'm
Speaker 1: going to send that guy over there so then to
Speaker 1: get beat up and then we're going to take his bones
Speaker 1: out and get after it.
Speaker 5: But but think about it, though that work, So you
Speaker 5: don't you don't sacrifice one guy to the guys.
Speaker 2: We're not everyone's going to make it.
Speaker 1: But but then if you if you just tweak the
Speaker 1: if you tweak the parameters a little bit, and I say, hey,
Speaker 1: here you get a five pound weight from the weight room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now we got a shot. Now we're cooking with gas.
Speaker 1: I say, here's a blade.
Speaker 5: Oh one dude, so basically with that whipping the eyes
Speaker 5: and something, we don't got a change.
Speaker 3: What I think we got a chance.
Speaker 1: I don't think the numbers matter as much as the
Speaker 1: mentality of the dominion.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm because if you have one hundred Jason's
Speaker 3: in there, yeah, nah, but you could do five logans
Speaker 3: something good. This is because I'm not doing.
Speaker 5: This is a job for the people that society has
Speaker 5: pushed to the side.
Speaker 1: The other one that I like to is I talked
Speaker 1: to my green brave buddy about it, and he said,
Speaker 1: five people. He's I think we could fatigue it because
Speaker 1: you could just mess with it.
Speaker 2: And if you could just.
Speaker 1: Stay out of reach of the gorilla and tire it
Speaker 1: out enough, it's gotta play the long game.
Speaker 3: No, that ain't gonna work.
Speaker 1: You gotta realize, I think about it, like you could
Speaker 1: tire the thing out though.
Speaker 5: Do you not realize? No, fighting against a vegetarian gorilla
Speaker 5: is a vegetarian.
Speaker 2: What does that have to do with anything?
Speaker 3: Well, you ain't gonna get tied. No, vegetarians don't get
Speaker 3: off the top.
Speaker 5: That vegetarian is not the biggest animals on earth. Fits
Speaker 5: is a vegetarian. Talk giraffe is a vegetarian, like vegetarians
Speaker 5: grow bigger than meat eaters.
Speaker 3: Meat eaters have more energy than vegetarian.
Speaker 1: So let me just say that's great something because it's
Speaker 1: always tries to be absolutely in the same when people
Speaker 1: like you ever seen the skinny gorilla, they all eat
Speaker 1: his bamboo or something like that, Like it drives me nuts.
Speaker 1: You know, they have a special enzyme in their gut
Speaker 1: to help them digest the fiber and turn into a protein.
Speaker 2: Like that's it's not the same, right, Like.
Speaker 5: So when a person what you gotta say about the
Speaker 5: elephant d well, Okay, it's a sperm.
Speaker 2: Wheel, It's okay, sperm wheel is a carnivore.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just saying, what you got a carnivore. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but they also eat the smallest particles in.
Speaker 1: The sperm wheel eats giant squid you're thinking of belly,
Speaker 1: thinking of a blue ye blue, And they eat krilled,
Speaker 1: which is also a animal.
Speaker 3: But it's also micro.
Speaker 4: I'm just thinking about how free and knowing all this stuff.
Speaker 3: It's it's just micro.
Speaker 2: It's it's not it's it's like a little shrimp. Yeah
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's like Melliams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but so they're they're also eating proteins, like animal
Speaker 1: based proteins.
Speaker 3: But we can't say that the garrilla is a vegetarian.
Speaker 2: Grill is vegetarian, yes, but it doesn't.
Speaker 4: It's it's they don't have nothing to do when it
Speaker 4: comes to it's energy.
Speaker 5: All I'm saying is we ain't going down by the
Speaker 5: hands of a vegetarian.
Speaker 3: Do you understand me?
Speaker 5: In ninety nine dudes, I'm gonna tell these dude before
Speaker 5: this match, this is a vegetarian.
Speaker 3: We gotta take him down.
Speaker 2: That's your Yeah, we will, just as you stand in
Speaker 2: the back like.
Speaker 5: We would not lose totarian, were going to the steakhouse
Speaker 5: after this.
Speaker 3: You understand me, You're not losing.
Speaker 2: Long story short, this was our thing. Yeah, yeah, before
Speaker 2: like seriously like that.
Speaker 3: We got no love.
Speaker 4: We got to say that we brought this up and
Speaker 4: had a long talk about this when we just had Yeah.
Speaker 2: But you brought this up, so give us some love.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: If you see that out there inside, you.
Speaker 5: Know, hey, mister bees didn't do this. Is this mister basting,
Speaker 5: Yes it is really this is a mister Beestein. And
Speaker 5: you know when mister Beach touched something, it turned to
Speaker 5: go it's pretty wild. If mister Beach touched something and
Speaker 5: he just shows up in your city with some idea
Speaker 5: like I'm finna jump off a building. Like he shows
Speaker 5: up in your city, he gets a billion views and
Speaker 5: now he's the man.
Speaker 3: Now he say fight a gorilla. We said this a
Speaker 3: year ago.
Speaker 5: Nobody with I fan base did grab They did talk
Speaker 5: about it, but the world didn't grab it.
Speaker 3: But now it's the b said.
Speaker 2: He's got it. He's got it, all right. So that's yeah.
Speaker 2: Just so it's our plea to you as a fan base.
Speaker 2: Just help us out all bit here.
Speaker 3: Just show us some love, all right?
Speaker 1: And uh so In more Commander's based news, obviously, the
Speaker 1: RFK news is out now looks like that there's an
Speaker 1: opportunity for the stadium to be built at the old
Speaker 1: RFK site, which is really exciting for the city of
Speaker 1: d C. It is exciting for the fan base, and
Speaker 1: obviously it's still incredibly early in the process, but at
Speaker 1: least it does seem to be taking steps in that direction.
Speaker 5: Hollowed ground, Yeah, hallowed ground, Like you want to talk
Speaker 5: about the dads and the sons, that's gonna rejoice sending
Speaker 5: in them stands like it's gonna be nostalgia.
Speaker 3: It is finest, all right. Uh.
Speaker 5: I once got asked by a fan like a week ago,
Speaker 5: did you play at Rkade.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not that old, you know, I played
Speaker 3: at RKAY.
Speaker 2: What in college?
Speaker 1: They played the Eagle Bank Bowl there? Yeah, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I played.
Speaker 2: The Eagle Bank Ball c l A. Yeah, U CLA.
Speaker 2: We played Temple and the Eagle Bank Bowl and win.
Speaker 2: So we did win.
Speaker 3: So Dad, what year was that?
Speaker 2: It was two thousand and nine, Like.
Speaker 3: The whole time I've been here, that thing looked like
Speaker 3: it by the fall.
Speaker 5: No, but you remember the Nats played there also, and
Speaker 5: they did play them bowl games, and.
Speaker 1: I will say it was one of the most miserable
Speaker 1: experiences I've ever had, not because of the stadium, but
Speaker 1: because it was like really cold and the field, you know,
Speaker 1: there's like that one open end down there, yet it
Speaker 1: was completely frozen, like asphalt frozen, and so you fall like.
Speaker 3: You'd slip because they had to paint the field.
Speaker 2: Green fields painted green.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and anytime you fell, like I fell in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, like I got tackled and someone fell on
Speaker 1: me and it and I bruised all my ris and
Speaker 1: I was just like it was terrible, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because like imagine playing tackle football, like clearing
Speaker 1: the cars out and playing in your cleats, like that's
Speaker 1: what it was.
Speaker 2: So funny.
Speaker 5: The youngest one of us has played at RFK and
Speaker 5: the two oh he has ain't played it.
Speaker 1: And it was cool, Like it was one of those
Speaker 1: spots where it's kind of like not not the same level,
Speaker 1: but you know when you go to Lambeau and you're.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, yeah, this is awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Micha but.
Speaker 1: You kind of felt like there was ghosts in the
Speaker 1: building a little bit, you know, which is kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, So obviously, like we're really excited about it.
Speaker 1: Was really cool to see Roger Gidel at the press conference,
Speaker 1: like yeah, and hopefully that keeps for guessing. If you
Speaker 1: want more information about it, make sure the Commander's dot
Speaker 1: com for more. There'll be a story up there on
Speaker 1: the website, so make sure you check that out. All right, So,
Speaker 1: now that we've got the gorilla thing, which was maybe
Speaker 1: the most important thing in the show, let's give us
Speaker 1: some love on that. Yeah, the RFK News, let's recap
Speaker 1: the draft, and let's start, I guess with super high
Speaker 1: level and you know, like the Commands only had five
Speaker 1: picks in the draft. Yeah, and I was kind of like,
Speaker 1: usually like national media is not super psyched about like
Speaker 1: those low volume drafts. They say, oh, we need more
Speaker 1: volume to have a good draft. But there's a news
Speaker 1: outlet that aggregates all the mock drafts that kind of
Speaker 1: compares your draft to the mock draft. Commanders were the
Speaker 1: number two team by that metric. CBS Sports A minus,
Speaker 1: AP and News B plus, UH Sports Illustrated, b NFL
Speaker 1: dot Com b PFF B plus, and The Ringer B.
Speaker 2: So I think.
Speaker 3: Overall, that'll get you high on a row.
Speaker 1: People pretty good about the people feel pretty good about
Speaker 1: the Commander's drafts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel great about it. I think we all
Speaker 4: said this though that night, you know, both Nicely was here.
Speaker 4: It just seems different. It has a different kind of.
Speaker 2: Or to it.
Speaker 4: I don't even know if I can use or for
Speaker 4: a word, but it seemed like for the years and
Speaker 4: especially the years of us playing, we were just getting guys.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You see a name, Okay,
Speaker 4: we got them. We have five six receivers though we
Speaker 4: got two more, you know what I mean? And now
Speaker 4: I think everything is intentional. You know, they going out
Speaker 4: there getting it's actually going to really ben fit what
Speaker 4: we do as a team, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It's fitting what we do and who we are. So
Speaker 4: that's what's intrigguing to me, just seeing that you're getting
Speaker 4: guys that fit your culture and you getting guys that
Speaker 4: fit what we do offensively and defensively and also special teams.
Speaker 5: I know you a winning organization when you have none
Speaker 5: sexy drafts, when you don't get the names everybody think
Speaker 5: you're gonna get, like when you have those Kansy City
Speaker 5: type drafts. When you have that, we just have the
Speaker 5: big guys, like, nothing sexy about that. We'll get athletes
Speaker 5: in the back end of around. Like it's like hip
Speaker 5: hop music. Just because you got a hot song, don't
Speaker 5: mean you got a hot album. Like Kendrel and mar
Speaker 5: wins all the awards because his work has some validity
Speaker 5: to it, not Juicy Jay, and I love Juicy Jay.
Speaker 3: But it's club.
Speaker 5: It ain't win any no awards like, so it don't
Speaker 5: have nothing to it. Like now that we having these drafts,
Speaker 5: these drafts have something and like I said, I think
Speaker 5: it's a great thing that we want these dre.
Speaker 3: Up peaks, But do we need these dray up peaks?
Speaker 2: Wan? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I think to kind of piggyback off of that,
Speaker 1: like B Mitch said something similar on the live show
Speaker 1: that we did on Draft Night, where he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's so funny that fans get mad, but sometimes the
Speaker 1: best drafts are ones where you don't know the names. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is like I studied
Speaker 1: a lot for this draft, I said, a lot, And
Speaker 1: thank god, I've actually watched all of these players before
Speaker 1: the draft started. But like you can't watch like the
Speaker 1: director of college scouting, I watched five hundred guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll have a report written up on five hundred football players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know the GM will probably watch three point
Speaker 1: fifty to four hundred. He's you know, they they're kind
Speaker 1: of trying to distill information down to him. And I
Speaker 1: have never I've yet to meet a fan, even people
Speaker 1: who are super locked in from a draft perspective wise,
Speaker 1: who watch that many guys. Yeah, And I just think,
Speaker 1: like trust that, especially now with how smart teams are getting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, teams are smart now the draft, and I'm.
Speaker 1: Never like, well that guy's are reached, Like especially the
Speaker 1: last year, I wasn't like, oh that's a terrible pick
Speaker 1: at all, kind of fell in line. People are smart, man,
Speaker 1: and they're getting better and better from an analytics perspective
Speaker 1: about distealing this thing down. The one thing that I
Speaker 1: took away from this draft, and we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about each pick individually, here is you got five players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think all five of.
Speaker 1: Them have a really good shot of making the team,
Speaker 1: and very rarely do I feel that way about a draft.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when you got a guy in the seventh round
Speaker 1: in Jacory Krofsky Merritt, who is I think got a
Speaker 1: really tremendous upset as a runner, I think you could
Speaker 1: make the squad. Yeah, And that's very rare. And so
Speaker 1: I think that's one thing to think about. And the
Speaker 1: other thing I just want to call attention to this
Speaker 1: is there's five people on this sheet, but I don't
Speaker 1: think this represents the draft class. And what I mean
Speaker 1: by that is you got Deebo Samuels with that fifth
Speaker 1: round pick, So you're kind of in this in this desert,
Speaker 1: not picking for a long time from one twenty six
Speaker 1: to two forty five or whatever it was like insert
Speaker 1: answered Deebo Samuels there, right, you know you don't have
Speaker 1: that third round pick and Shirt Marshall and ladim in
Speaker 1: short marsha On Antimore, and you don't have a draft
Speaker 1: pack next year, but you have Laramie Tungs and I
Speaker 1: look at if you add those names to this draft,
Speaker 1: we would It's hard to think of a group that
Speaker 1: did that did quote unquote did.
Speaker 3: The draft did better?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're not going to find guys that's no.
Speaker 4: You can say that that's that's already half. I guess
Speaker 4: you can say, what's the word I'm trying to use.
Speaker 4: I see, I'm going I'm having brains.
Speaker 3: Just established guys.
Speaker 4: They established guys that's already have they you know, that
Speaker 4: been in the league long enough to go out there
Speaker 4: and say, okay, we can we can depend on these guys.
Speaker 4: You know, most most guys in the draft, on most
Speaker 4: teams in the draft, they're drafting these guys, banking and
Speaker 4: hoping that hey, these guys have to play right now.
Speaker 4: And that's one of the things that Adam Peter said,
Speaker 4: you know that was interested to me. Is just before
Speaker 4: we have to pick a guy tonight, you know, we
Speaker 4: can go play right now with the guys that we have. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So before we picked the guy, we had three guys
Speaker 4: already from from using our draft capitople that come to
Speaker 4: help this team and and and help us have.
Speaker 3: A better year than we had last year.
Speaker 5: So I guarantee before I take that, what if the
Speaker 5: draft is a big old weddy? What if we coach
Speaker 5: him right? What if we got the right scheme? It's
Speaker 5: always a wood if the Laraman Tussel is not a
Speaker 5: what if? Deebo Samuels is not a what if Marshawn
Speaker 5: Lattimore is not a what if? I know what I'm
Speaker 5: getting when I'm dealing with these guys, so when you
Speaker 5: put them in this jail class we want.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think this also taught me something about
Speaker 1: the draft. And what I mean by that is like
Speaker 1: I've always thought you want to build through the draft,
Speaker 1: and you do. But like when you think about like
Speaker 1: draft capital as like money for example, right, it's money
Speaker 1: to make your team better. It's a resource to make
Speaker 1: your team better. And so when you are allocating some
Speaker 1: of those resources to establish known commodities, Yeah, that's still.
Speaker 2: A good draft process because you're still growing your team
Speaker 2: in that way.
Speaker 1: So I think that especially with I mean, this is
Speaker 1: just team building, like philosophy. You've got a franchise type
Speaker 1: player in jayde and Daniels on a rookie deal. The
Speaker 1: window the Super Bowl windows, Now, yeah, we got to
Speaker 1: be more aggressive and we use our draft capital to
Speaker 1: get that done them. So I think that that's kind
Speaker 1: of what I learned from this.
Speaker 3: Like I looked at the draft like a selling a house.
Speaker 5: Like if I want to sell a house, I got
Speaker 5: a couple of hot spots in this house.
Speaker 3: If I upgrade them, I can get more money.
Speaker 5: And that's the kitchen, that's the bare bathroom, all right,
Speaker 5: and maybe the backyard. But anything else that I put
Speaker 5: money in is a wasted it's a waste.
Speaker 3: And something in the backyard of the waist. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm.
Speaker 5: Saying, Like I just want to I think the draft,
Speaker 5: we we literally hit especially with the taco currently that's
Speaker 5: kitchen to me, this kitchen work. We add that extra pantry,
Speaker 5: we adding that extra what's the name in there, and
Speaker 5: it's bringing value to the house. It's bringing value to
Speaker 5: the house. And I think that's the big thing that
Speaker 5: you want to do. Because now that I sit down
Speaker 5: and I really looked at it. I was talking to
Speaker 5: Shen yesterday. I said, she, now that I look at
Speaker 5: this office line, if I started the left tack and
Speaker 5: I go across, I got a Pro Bowl left tackle.
Speaker 5: I to me, Coleman has Pro Bowl capability at guard.
Speaker 5: I have a Pro Bowl center, Sam cosmi back, I
Speaker 5: got a Pro Bowl guard. So I'm already three for
Speaker 5: four and Pro Bowl is on my offensive line.
Speaker 3: Yeah, four four, And then I got this.
Speaker 5: New uh freshman basically tackle, Like, I have a solidified
Speaker 5: line right now, I have I have road.
Speaker 3: Greaters at that line. So if you.
Speaker 5: Look at it from that perspective, we have the trench
Speaker 5: warfare that we need to win in this league right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think like when you've got you know, like,
Speaker 1: look I look at the last couple of years, you know,
Speaker 1: with the Washington Commanders, and it's the offensive line has
Speaker 1: been a little bit upper down. Now it's limited what
Speaker 1: you can do offensively. And I think these are smart
Speaker 1: steps to help maximize your quarterback. They're smart steps to
Speaker 1: help maximize your run game. Like it's really like everyone
Speaker 1: talks about skill position players, and that's important. Like the
Speaker 1: spine of the team is your offensive.
Speaker 5: Office is offensive defensive line. I'm sorry, this is where
Speaker 5: everything starts. This where everything ends. I have always been
Speaker 5: an advocate of the dudes disma like Bacon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so Josh Connelly tackle from Oregon, I think
Speaker 1: is a great example of this. Like he's big, he's six',
Speaker 1: five he's three, fifteen three eleven whatever he. Is he
Speaker 1: ran as like a five flats depending on who you're
Speaker 1: your tostop watches like a five flat or a four nine.
Speaker 1: Forty he's got a thirty four and a half inch.
Speaker 1: Vertical he's, explosive he's got long, arms got thirty four in.
Speaker 1: Charms like he's kind of like the mold right when
Speaker 1: you look at the analytics for the tackle, position like
Speaker 1: can you get a little bitch bitch bigger and? Stronger
Speaker 1: sure they all, can BUT i look at, Him i'm,
Speaker 1: like man, like there's a lot of growth potential. There
Speaker 1: same thing With coleman and SO i think it really
Speaker 1: does a lot in terms of raising.
Speaker 2: The floor of the.
Speaker 1: Offense tanna AND i think about like you as a
Speaker 1: receiver and how like when you have a great old
Speaker 1: line to.
Speaker 2: Protect like those shots.
Speaker 1: Down the field become a little bit, easier the offense
Speaker 1: becomes less, horizontal and that's super.
Speaker 4: Important AND i think too when you look at, It
Speaker 4: like one of the THINGS i mentioned on draft night
Speaker 4: we picked them, up thought about thinking about how much you,
Speaker 4: Know cliff had the hold back because he had to
Speaker 4: keep guys in the block tight, end you, KNOW i mean.
Speaker 4: Blocking and we was out there winning with two or
Speaker 4: three guys in the.
Speaker 3: Routes it was a.
Speaker 7: Masterclass, Yeah Like cliff got in his bag so much last,
Speaker 7: year they forgot about The cliff that they was trying
Speaker 7: to you, KNOW i guess you had a big narrative
Speaker 7: was oh.
Speaker 3: Late in the, Season cliff.
Speaker 4: Disappeared that was going on for about a week and
Speaker 4: then he got in his bag and, said oh that's
Speaker 4: how y'all feel about. Me i'm gonna show. 'all and
Speaker 4: then you get a guy And jaydon that's so. Accurate
Speaker 4: that's so on. Time you're getting these guys running their
Speaker 4: routes the. Way now we're getting more help up there
Speaker 4: to where he, Said, okay NOW i can get two
Speaker 4: more guys out of the. ROUTE i could get five.
Speaker 4: Guys you KNOW i want to, do so that's what
Speaker 4: you look for. It and it was funny because it
Speaker 4: wasn't a sexy. Pit it wasn't guys that was happy.
Speaker 4: ABOUT i was driving home And i'm listening to late
Speaker 4: night radio and they was, like oh, yeah BUT i
Speaker 4: didn't even know.
Speaker 3: Who was that. Guy and THAT'S i love.
Speaker 4: That WHEN i heard from the, fans that's the same
Speaker 4: way they felt about Dan quinn coming.
Speaker 3: Here oh why did we get? In we wanted the
Speaker 3: other guy From.
Speaker 4: Detroit so when you when you hate and when you
Speaker 4: when you're a fan base and you're not happy about
Speaker 4: the moves that's being, made you understand that the people
Speaker 4: who really know what they're talking. About, yeah you, know
Speaker 4: you have to be like a guy like. Myself it's
Speaker 4: real happy about it because you don't, know but they,
Speaker 4: do AND i trust in what they. Do and So
Speaker 4: i'm just happy because we talk about depth and seeing
Speaker 4: Cous me go down last, year seeing how those guys
Speaker 4: stepped there for Cous, me and now to know that
Speaker 4: we have other. Guys we added another guy to go
Speaker 4: along with those. Guys, man you're just gonna have the
Speaker 4: advantage to go out there and, say, man who are
Speaker 4: ready to play this.
Speaker 5: Week we're gonna pick our best fights stuff for. Room
Speaker 5: we stuffed two rooms during this. Draft we stuffed the
Speaker 5: offensive line room to. Capacity we stuffed the defensive back
Speaker 5: room to. Capacity it's gonna be competition. There it's gonna
Speaker 5: be also the. Talent the floor of talent is here
Speaker 5: or now now it's, here like it's, nothing and it's
Speaker 5: to the point in those two.
Speaker 3: Rooms we have saym cars me go.
Speaker 5: Down if we have A, jones go, Down like it's
Speaker 5: just play who you, Want like it's guy's good lord
Speaker 5: in there and that's what you. Want that's what championship teams.
Speaker 1: Do, YEAH i think it's funny BECAUSE i did hear
Speaker 1: a lot of fans be, like who's this? Guy AND
Speaker 1: i honestly LIKE i was surprised BECAUSE i feel like
Speaker 1: for years That i've been in ounced here like everyone's like.
Speaker 2: Offensive, line we needn't.
Speaker 3: Prove it's like get one.
Speaker 2: Here it's like we are improving the offensive. Line not
Speaker 2: they want to hear you do.
Speaker 5: It maybe they want to name, you like you, know
Speaker 5: the one thing about the draft is like going to
Speaker 5: a car, Lot like WHEN i Say i'm gonna go
Speaker 5: get a new.
Speaker 3: Car WHEN i come, back you you waiting on.
Speaker 5: Something but IF i pull up in the Al, camino you, Like,
Speaker 5: pops what? Happened, no the Al, CAMINO i can actually
Speaker 5: work and.
Speaker 2: Drive like the, expectations and the expectation was so high.
Speaker 3: Up who are we gonna get edge? Rushier they gonna
Speaker 3: get an Edge.
Speaker 5: Russia we got somebody to protect from an edge. Rusher
Speaker 5: and that's what you gotta.
Speaker 3: Like like it. Be men said.
Speaker 5: It anytime the fan base is, disappointed you did your.
Speaker 3: Job you did your.
Speaker 5: Job because if the fan base is happy on Draft,
Speaker 5: day that mean you you kind of played into the.
Speaker 3: Choir you kind of did what they wanted you to.
Speaker 4: Do and not only, that, man you made a great
Speaker 4: point about what we miss talked.
Speaker 3: About if you really paid us into the.
Speaker 4: Draft The giants go out there and get our dual
Speaker 4: carter and we, said. Checkmate this guy here played him and.
Speaker 3: He had no. Sacks mold.
Speaker 4: Him, no he basically blanket this guy the entire. Game
Speaker 4: and not only just a dude caught, it but basically
Speaker 4: everybody he you, know went up.
Speaker 3: Again so there they was. Playing they was playing.
Speaker 4: Chess yeah in our, division saying, okay you got this.
Speaker 4: Guy we're gonna go get a guy that's going TO
Speaker 4: solidi file us even more upfront to keep them a five,
Speaker 4: clean you.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah and to kind of support tennis. Point he
Speaker 1: had zero, pressure zero, pressures not, sacks zero pressures allowed
Speaker 1: IN teni for ten of fourteen.
Speaker 2: Games, yeah, like, no it is easy to give up a.
Speaker 1: Pressure pressure is a. Pressure You it's, like, OH i
Speaker 1: miss misset. This i'm a little getting pushed, Back like
Speaker 1: that's pretty crazy to.
Speaker 5: Me you, know this is a defensive player that's, Unbelievable
Speaker 5: like at Least i'm will get around and almost get. That,
Speaker 5: mean ain't no guy almost getting there like? This that's
Speaker 5: that's that's keeping it. Clean and that's WHY i named
Speaker 5: Him David banner because when He's, david he's a very,
Speaker 5: cool calm. Guy he was he was super, chilling you,
Speaker 5: know he was, chilling but he turns into the credible
Speaker 5: home this win.
Speaker 3: Things shange know.
Speaker 1: What's crazy, though it is some of the best TACKLES
Speaker 1: i played, With Like Laramie tunseel was like, This Jake
Speaker 1: matthews was like this little.
Speaker 2: Bit they're really.
Speaker 6: Calm Nice Chris Chris samuels, same very nice guys if
Speaker 6: you shake their hand with no pants, on when they
Speaker 6: put these pants, on something, changes something like something changes
Speaker 6: where they just want to.
Speaker 3: Grab people and they want to.
Speaker 5: Malve, yeah indeed they turned it right back off and
Speaker 5: then they go for ice.
Speaker 3: Cream SO i don't know what happens to these.
Speaker 1: Guys and even in the, huddle like you, know like
Speaker 1: they're very they're kind of, funny they're kind of joking,
Speaker 1: around and then all of a, sudden it's like this
Speaker 1: like that that they just go, dark like right when
Speaker 1: they say he, like.
Speaker 3: It's just like they choose bad right, now choose.
Speaker 2: Bad it's very.
Speaker 1: Strange so, obviously Really i'm really excited About Josh. Connorley
Speaker 1: LIKE i don't know if you guys checked out the
Speaker 1: big board on the, website but he was my fourth
Speaker 1: tackle AND i had him going kind of right in that,
Speaker 1: range AND i think right before the, pick it's like
Speaker 1: of the players, available he was definitely in that four
Speaker 1: kind of four players that we're really excited. About so
Speaker 1: that was. Awesome another guy that again like not tochoot
Speaker 1: my own, horn but like was right exactly WHERE i
Speaker 1: thought he would go Was Trey, amos the cornerback from All.
Speaker 3: MISS i THINK i brought him, up DID?
Speaker 2: I so we, did And i'm going to give you
Speaker 2: credit here.
Speaker 1: Them we talked about it in the break and we,
Speaker 1: SAID i was, like you can talk About shamon novel
Speaker 1: Or samos And pole, immediately just LIKE i want to
Speaker 1: talk About. Ramos so we didn't talk about. It and
Speaker 1: you and we did you like?
Speaker 2: HIM i know you like? Him AND i think he
Speaker 2: was like number five on YOUR dB. Ranking he's very.
Speaker 1: High, yeah, Yeah so but At Trey, Amos, man it
Speaker 1: kind of feels the same way As Josh connelly, Does
Speaker 1: like as the board was, falling kind of opened that
Speaker 1: door and it's just, like, oh, man here's here's the.
Speaker 4: First round guy that basically slipped to us in the second.
Speaker 1: Round and, again like the things THAT i like about
Speaker 1: him are his. Size he's about he's six ft a
Speaker 1: little bit, over kind of six y, one about two hundred.
Speaker 1: Pounds he's played at multiple, schools, right he's got this
Speaker 1: kind OF i love guys now in college football who
Speaker 1: he started as Raging cajun goes To, alabama doesn't work,
Speaker 1: out he gets, relegated transferred schools To Ole. Miss like
Speaker 1: he had to find his to.
Speaker 5: Fight, LIKE i love. Guys they had to fight their way.
Speaker 5: Up that's WHY i love Cam. Wood like Cam ward
Speaker 5: went from a zero start recruit to the first in
Speaker 5: The dreil and and everybody just want to talk about
Speaker 5: you do.
Speaker 3: It And i'm, like that ain't what we should be talking.
Speaker 5: About we should be talking about this guy who entered
Speaker 5: college is a zero.
Speaker 3: Star that means you stink damn.
Speaker 4: SONO i mean nobody has put yeah shifting you.
Speaker 2: UP i mean he just.
Speaker 4: Happen he didn't get the eyes that everybody else. Got
Speaker 4: that's what it really. Means So i'm, like we want
Speaker 4: To Fred smoot's coming out of college because we ran
Speaker 4: them out all day and.
Speaker 5: They had to watch WHEN i capt him, OUT i
Speaker 5: WAS i had to go to junior. COLLEGE i wouldn't
Speaker 5: LIKE i want everybody raid out LIKE i had. TO
Speaker 5: i had to work for. THAT i wouldn't got.
Speaker 1: YOU i wasn't That, Yeah and he definitely had to
Speaker 1: work for, it, Right and SO i, think, uh, like
Speaker 1: when you look at, HIM i think the thing that
Speaker 1: sticks out And, fred you could probably speak to this
Speaker 1: better is the ball skills are. Excellent, YEAH i think
Speaker 1: he's got good. Physicality like there's a, competitiveness.
Speaker 3: You, know like fire about him THAT i.
Speaker 1: Love you watched like The South carolina game IF i remember,
Speaker 1: correctly and he's Checking, harbor who's like six, five two
Speaker 1: hundred and forty pound wide. Receiver, yes and you would
Speaker 1: have Thought harbor was. Nobody yeah you know WHAT i?
Speaker 1: Mean and, yeah, yeah and really got after. Him love
Speaker 1: that can play and zone can. Plan, man there are
Speaker 1: some times where he's a little his footwork gets a
Speaker 1: little bit. Off he's not, like but this went pro.
Speaker 1: Coaching not the best, Tackler but, again those THINGS i
Speaker 1: think are given the type of guy he just seems to.
Speaker 2: Be seem like they're easily, correct but he's a willing.
Speaker 3: Tackler i'm Not he'll throw it in.
Speaker 1: There so just to be, Clear i'm giving context on
Speaker 1: why he might be a sixty. One like, AGAIN i
Speaker 1: had A i think you could have took him at
Speaker 1: twenty nine AND i would have been, like that's, awesome
Speaker 1: you know WHAT i. Mean SO i really liked the.
Speaker 1: Player But i'm just kind of saying, like these are
Speaker 1: some things to keep an eye. On and, AGAIN i
Speaker 1: think you look At Joe Whitt junior And Dan quinn
Speaker 1: their pedigree with TV's like in their ability to get
Speaker 1: the most out of guys and what they did With
Speaker 1: Mike sanders. Leaving you, KNOW i know we Give Benjamin
Speaker 1: saint just's a hard, time but they made him the
Speaker 1: best version of. Himself, yes AND i think this guy's
Speaker 1: way more instinctive.
Speaker 5: And, polished way more, polished and way more of a.
Speaker 5: Bawl he's a, Ball he's a cornerbacks.
Speaker 4: Cornerback, yeah with a guy that if you Was, Dion
Speaker 4: dion want, Him he want him on his.
Speaker 3: Squad he.
Speaker 4: Won't he want a guy that's gonna go out, there
Speaker 4: go out to the, ball be in a guy's, face
Speaker 4: ain't backing, down got something to say out. THERE i
Speaker 4: mean that's WHAT i. SAW i saw a guy that's
Speaker 4: ready to, play no great ready to be, changed but
Speaker 4: he's good at. Everything he doesn't have one great, thing
Speaker 4: he's good at.
Speaker 1: Everything So, jason you got sixteen passes defended on here
Speaker 1: that led THE.
Speaker 2: SEC i think it was.
Speaker 3: Seventeen i'm that's, crazy that's, ridiculous that's. Awesome BUT i think.
Speaker 5: It speaks to What tanna is talking about THAT i
Speaker 5: THINK i had twenty three coming.
Speaker 3: Out we're trying to talk about this one over, Here
Speaker 3: jason got y'all can fact checked.
Speaker 1: Me we're just but it's, ridiculous right and so and
Speaker 1: so for him to again three three, interceptions he just
Speaker 1: shows an. Awareness, Yeah AND i think like that's one
Speaker 1: thing that WITH dbs THAT i often, Undervalue like when
Speaker 1: you compare him To Chavone ravel not as aware of
Speaker 1: the football in the, air, right this guy is like
Speaker 1: he made.
Speaker 2: A pick who was?
Speaker 5: It you probably are you talking about in the end
Speaker 5: zone the one day he somebody threw it up in end.
Speaker 5: Zone he literally jumps out the end, zone catches, it
Speaker 5: flips over and.
Speaker 1: You kind of got rolled like someone kind of understand
Speaker 1: some undercomeany the play on the.
Speaker 2: Ball tanner, Was it's.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable it was, incredible and so LIKE i just, think
Speaker 1: like that's the kind of guy that it just a good, ball,
Speaker 1: awareness good, position got to clean up some, stuff nothing too,
Speaker 1: major but some. Stuff AND i just, think how do
Speaker 1: you think that affects the? Defense like, where like where
Speaker 1: do you see him fitting in and like what's his
Speaker 1: role like moving?
Speaker 5: Forward you THINK i think it's it's icing on the,
Speaker 5: cake if you know WHAT i, Mean like you got
Speaker 5: this core group of, guys and then you bring in
Speaker 5: this other guy and he can like all, right you
Speaker 5: Got Mikey. SAMMERSTEVE i think you think he moves back
Speaker 5: to the. SLOT i THINK i think it'll outs allows
Speaker 5: him to move back into the. Slot now you got
Speaker 5: another tall guy on the outside, side press corner.
Speaker 3: Outside and then you still Got Jonathan. Jones don't.
Speaker 2: Forget you still Got Jonathan.
Speaker 5: Jones so you gotta you got a treasures of wealth right.
Speaker 5: There you got so like, this you're not one injury
Speaker 5: away from everything.
Speaker 2: Shattering like it's just kind of where they were last.
Speaker 5: Year, yeah like we was like one guy goes down
Speaker 5: and it's over.
Speaker 3: WITH i don't think we're there.
Speaker 5: Anymore LIKE i think it's gonna be a run on
Speaker 5: the position WHERE i don't because you start three corners these.
Speaker 5: Days it ain't two corners that you start, three, RIGHT
Speaker 5: i don't know the store in three right.
Speaker 3: Now that's a good problem to have a great problem.
Speaker 2: Now and SO i, mean OBVIOUSLY i think he projects the.
Speaker 2: Outside yeah he's.
Speaker 1: Not and, again just to be, clear like he's got
Speaker 1: to compete for, this he's got to win this, opportunity
Speaker 1: like Like tennis, said like they did a great job
Speaker 1: of making. Sure we've got a bunch of really hyper
Speaker 1: competitive dudes who can play. Football so he's got to earn.
Speaker 1: It BUT i think him outside, Center sli, Inside, yeah
Speaker 1: and Then marshall.
Speaker 5: And then you still got that think about. It we
Speaker 5: can play, INSIDE I, john The jones can play. Inside
Speaker 5: they all can play. Outside so now you got you
Speaker 5: got a rotational right there that you can't Be AND
Speaker 5: i think it.
Speaker 4: Just gives you that that that competitive edge as a
Speaker 4: defensive back room that you're gonna have a bunch of
Speaker 4: guys in there trying to get out there on that.
Speaker 4: Field so everybody going to be out there playing their best,
Speaker 4: game you know WHAT i.
Speaker 2: Mean, so and it's kind of what The connorley picked
Speaker 2: us for the old. Line it's just.
Speaker 1: Stuff you get your best in this case three if
Speaker 1: you're in dime four and with the intensive, line to
Speaker 1: get your best five out, there and that's all you
Speaker 1: can ask, for that's all you can. DO i just
Speaker 1: want a lot of, competitiveness all. Right, So, TANNA i
Speaker 1: don't know if you've watched this guy at. All the
Speaker 1: next guy they picked at what was the pick, Eight,
Speaker 1: yeah Was Jayleen lane wide receiver For Virginia, tech AND
Speaker 1: i just wanted. TO i knew he had a good,
Speaker 1: combine SO i was, like let me just let me
Speaker 1: just go back look up what he. Did AND i
Speaker 1: was quite frankly blown away by his.
Speaker 2: Number so let's get.
Speaker 1: This four three, Four no like? Me, yeah four three
Speaker 1: four forty yard dash? Insane one five ten yards split also,
Speaker 1: insane that's Un guess what his vertical jump?
Speaker 3: Was Forty guess what his broad jump? Was eleven eleven?
Speaker 2: Eleven are you out of your?
Speaker 1: Mind eleven feet get out of? Here three cone drill
Speaker 1: six point seventy.
Speaker 2: Five that is.
Speaker 1: Elite that is. Elite that's like the movement, skills sinking.
Speaker 1: Cuts and then a four one two second three twenty
Speaker 1: yard shuttle and fourteen reps of the bench. Press SO
Speaker 1: i see, that And i'm, like you are not gonna fight.
Speaker 3: Ten of man my.
Speaker 4: Measurements what was your VERTICAL i tell, You i've cleared
Speaker 4: everything all forty?
Speaker 3: Two, YEAH i need to just stop.
Speaker 2: That let this man hide himself.
Speaker 3: Up AND i ain't even trying to hype himself. Up but,
Speaker 3: no that's.
Speaker 1: Ridiculous but do you think but just to get so
Speaker 1: just to give, context your forty was a ford to my.
Speaker 4: Forty they rounded up to four three. One that was
Speaker 4: the fastest in our. Class BUT i ran for.
Speaker 2: Eight that's pretty. Close WHEN i got Jail land and
Speaker 2: what was your Vertical my vertical jump?
Speaker 3: WAS i cleared all forty? Two we had forty. TWO
Speaker 3: i cleared it with the bottom of my. Hand that
Speaker 3: gave me like forty. Four, yeah me. Too but they
Speaker 3: didn't they.
Speaker 4: Didn't they didn't really have broad jumped off my BROAD
Speaker 4: i don't. KNOW i don't even THINK i broad jumped
Speaker 4: because ONCE i did, that they was, like, man this,
Speaker 4: dude day is.
Speaker 3: Over like my day was kind.
Speaker 1: Of but, again like our guy Jail lane has a
Speaker 1: forty inch broad. Jump he ran a four three four.
Speaker 3: Like you doing that at five.
Speaker 2: Ten you're talking about a guy and he.
Speaker 3: Is he two hundred thanks probably not even so not
Speaker 3: only is he, fast not only is he, quick he's also.
Speaker 3: Strung happened was the? Fourteen, yeah SO i need it
Speaker 3: once like one. TIME i, mean, NO i ain't even,
Speaker 3: bench BUT.
Speaker 2: I probably if you ran a fourth, THREE i. Would.
Speaker 4: Yeah we was mentioning the house at um, SO i
Speaker 4: mean you know that wasn't a.
Speaker 3: Problem but the.
Speaker 4: Thing about, me the thing that's so crazy that raised
Speaker 4: my eyebrows WHEN i watched his film cut up just
Speaker 4: the highlights that they were showing most of those punk.
Speaker 4: Returns he, returning he's breaking tackles like he's running through arm,
Speaker 4: tackles and then he. Hollering then he getting getting missing on.
Speaker 4: You so you know you got a guy in here
Speaker 4: that's going to be definitely you, KNOW i can see
Speaker 4: why you SAY i Got iso was going going, Crazy,
Speaker 4: yeah because to, me that's that's a part of our
Speaker 4: game that you want to. EXCEL i mean, that just to,
Speaker 4: me those are first downs that you can't account. For
Speaker 4: you know What i'm saying as a punk. Returner you,
Speaker 4: know my coach is always tell me TEN i need
Speaker 4: two first. Downs i'm, like, cold you're talking ABOUT i
Speaker 4: need you getting more than ten. YARDS i need you
Speaker 4: get at least twenty. Yards you know What i'm.
Speaker 3: Saying so that's that's two first downs for.
Speaker 4: Us so when you when you got a guy like
Speaker 4: that who can change the field after that that ball
Speaker 4: is kicked and and it touches his, hands that put
Speaker 4: our offense in a better you know range of going
Speaker 4: out there and doing.
Speaker 3: Them he got the trace to get what we called
Speaker 3: in the defensive back. Room he finna get little on.
Speaker 5: You like when the dude started getting, smaller they mean
Speaker 5: he running away from he getting little when he turns
Speaker 5: in a two inch, Man, yeah you probably thirty miles
Speaker 5: away from this guy has the ability to turn to
Speaker 5: the main and this what you. Want you won't big
Speaker 5: playability and once he gets, little you don't see nothing
Speaker 5: but the last MAY i love.
Speaker 1: It the other, thing, too is LIKE i think about you,
Speaker 1: know you talk about the, returnability LIKE i do think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a slight regression in terms of fourth down.
Speaker 1: Conversion you know it's eighty seven percent last year that
Speaker 1: you can only go, Back, yeah your fourth your third
Speaker 1: down was like forty, seven which was second.
Speaker 2: We no touch push, second we know touch.
Speaker 1: Push so there's gonna be a little bit of a
Speaker 1: just a slight regression, Obviously like those are just unsustainable.
Speaker 1: Numbers but all of a, sudden you bring in a
Speaker 1: guy in the return game who can give you two first, downs,
Speaker 1: right you don't have to be converting all those first
Speaker 1: Down you can get scores on special, Teams like that's
Speaker 1: a really dynamic. Thing and THEN i do, think LIKE
Speaker 1: i like his offensive. Film, yeah you watch The offense
Speaker 1: At Virginia, tech AND i don't know if we have Any.
Speaker 1: Hoki Watching offense was kind of hard for me to.
Speaker 3: Watch it.
Speaker 2: Stinks it's not.
Speaker 3: Great let's be, Honest, Like i'm not going to sugar coat.
Speaker 1: Nothing it's like kind of like this r P o triple,
Speaker 1: Options like it's a weird. Deal and so the receivers
Speaker 1: are kind of in a tough. Spot BUT i will
Speaker 1: say this dude will.
Speaker 7: Block.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he's tough with the ball in his, hands
Speaker 1: like you're watch him break. TACKLES i think his route
Speaker 1: running nuance is better than what he was able to show.
Speaker 3: Him, WELL i think he's A.
Speaker 5: Bloomingdale the key Is oh and if the key is
Speaker 5: is t MoU, right this guy is Blooming. Day he's
Speaker 5: an Upgraded he's a the key is with rams on.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well BECAUSE i think is a heck of a.
Speaker 1: Football but this, guy he's all the more. Gasoline that's
Speaker 1: What i'm.
Speaker 4: Saying he's just paramount and buddy paramount. PLUS i would say,
Speaker 4: Great BUT i.
Speaker 1: Did have that, thought BUT i watched. HIM i was
Speaker 1: like he reminds me a little bit of that's WHAT i.
Speaker 1: Say but he can hit a home run all the.
Speaker 1: Time it's just kind of. Cool, Yeah and again the
Speaker 1: play strength is, cool like AND i think about like
Speaker 1: what he could do for the, offense you, know, like
Speaker 1: obviously you Lose Johnny, brown like that straight vertical guy
Speaker 1: to carry stuff out for, Career like it's.
Speaker 3: Nice and now he's that. Guy he can he can be,
Speaker 3: That so he's.
Speaker 1: Got To, again he's got to earn this, too, Right
Speaker 1: but there's a in terms of like what he could
Speaker 1: mean for the, offense role for the, offense roll on
Speaker 1: special teams right at the. GATE i don't know if
Speaker 1: he can cover, kicks but he plays like he, Can like.
Speaker 2: It's just like a tough. Dude SO i really getting
Speaker 2: that guy at one twenty.
Speaker 1: Eight, LIKE i love that pick because it's just great,
Speaker 1: value fits fits the culture of the team really well
Speaker 1: and obviously very. Exciting, now maybe one of my favorite
Speaker 1: players in the draft is the next guy they, Drafted
Speaker 1: Caine midrano FROM ucla Fil.
Speaker 4: Pops let's not say that he's your favorite because you
Speaker 4: love brilliant brew bias here baby blew in.
Speaker 3: Going.
Speaker 2: On but ifraid you watched.
Speaker 1: Him, yeah like he's six, three he's two twenty to
Speaker 1: twenty five, again all, readers athletic profile in a, second it's.
Speaker 5: Unbelievable fastest linebacker in the draft with this dude.
Speaker 3: MOVES i don't know if he's a safety all. Linebacker
Speaker 3: he plays LIKE i, Say i'm.
Speaker 5: Sorry he has this thing to him like WHEN i watched,
Speaker 5: FILM i like to see guys THAT i don't have
Speaker 5: to wonder where you at on the, field especially it's
Speaker 5: a defensive, player LIKE i want you to be, like.
Speaker 3: Hey it's me and, right and this is what his film.
Speaker 5: Said WHEN i turned the film, on he looked at
Speaker 5: me and was, like, yeah check me, out but you
Speaker 5: get loaded This it just he had a pick six
Speaker 5: that he literally picks the ball up coming downhill right,
Speaker 5: now he picks the ball, off run past the offensive,
Speaker 5: tackles literally gets like ten yards from the end. Zone
Speaker 5: somebody try to cut him load so for him screens
Speaker 5: around like he jumps Like i'm, crazy he's a Linebackers
Speaker 5: like this is Why i'm like what he really is
Speaker 5: on this?
Speaker 7: Level converted wide receiver that part think about, that you
Speaker 7: know WHAT i?
Speaker 4: Mean and then he's a, hybrid you, KNOW i, mean
Speaker 4: like why why why force him to be anything but
Speaker 4: what he? Is you need him in a, box put
Speaker 4: him down, there you need to.
Speaker 3: Cover let him, cover you know WHAT i?
Speaker 4: Mean like he's he to, me he brains something to
Speaker 4: this defense that we've seen that we had in Shen
Speaker 4: chin and like how we Had. Flower you, know he
Speaker 4: was one of those guys that you didn't know what
Speaker 4: he was, like was he a linebacker?
Speaker 3: Edge you know WHAT i?
Speaker 4: Mean so he has that about his, game WHICH i
Speaker 4: feel like that fits what we, do you know WHAT i.
Speaker 4: Mean he's a football player and he's a guy that's gonna.
Speaker 4: Flyer he's the guy that, say, look, man go out
Speaker 4: there and do your. Job and that's WHAT i. SAW
Speaker 4: i saw that jumped. Off he jumped off the chocks
Speaker 4: when it came to just being around the.
Speaker 3: Football very very.
Speaker 4: Instinctive you, know even when he wasn't making the, interception
Speaker 4: he made to play on the, ball making it hard
Speaker 4: for the other, guy you know WHAT i, mean or
Speaker 4: making EASY i for what other guys to come out
Speaker 4: and then get the PEAK.
Speaker 3: A lot is, though should be happy about this one.
Speaker 1: Too team as a sixth round, player like his home
Speaker 1: is going to be. Teams BUT i think what we're
Speaker 1: kind of pointing to here is, like so just in one,
Speaker 1: GAME i forget who they were playing is a Red
Speaker 1: he might have Been, NEBRASKA.
Speaker 2: USC i don't remember Roming.
Speaker 1: Nebraska and so he lined up as the star so
Speaker 1: like over the slot, player running with, receivers, yes filling
Speaker 1: all that s, place playing r. Po the next, play
Speaker 1: he's lined up at mike, linebacker taking on pulling guards
Speaker 1: and getting under. Stuff on the third, play he's lined
Speaker 1: up at like defensive end in the edge, rusher rushing
Speaker 1: the tackle for a. Pressure and so it was, like,
Speaker 1: wow he sounds like really he's an excellent football, player
Speaker 1: but he's a converted wide. Receivers here's a here's a good.
Speaker 1: Play they're Playing nebraska Or. Iowa he plays the, zone
Speaker 1: the zone read, Right he misses the tackle on the quarterback,
Speaker 1: right quarterback runs The remember this dude's so, athletic puts
Speaker 1: his hand, down chases him, down rips the ball. Out
Speaker 1: he doesn't quite have all the linebackery.
Speaker 2: Stuff big it, out you know What i'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, like he doesn't take the best, angles he's not
Speaker 1: the best tackle he's not like physical as a, tackler
Speaker 1: but taking on, blocks, yeah covering kicks in, space, like
Speaker 1: the movement skills are.
Speaker 2: Incredible he's.
Speaker 3: Willing that's ALL i want you to do is be.
Speaker 5: Willing we can cross them teas and we can dot
Speaker 5: those eyes when you get.
Speaker 3: Here that's What.
Speaker 5: Listen every prospect drafted in this draft is, flawed all.
Speaker 5: Right nobody has, Peaked nobody has made it to where
Speaker 5: they're going to. Be that's what make pro coaching elite
Speaker 5: compared to college. COACHING i want the player that's willing
Speaker 5: to do it and has the skill set to do.
Speaker 3: It we'll figure the risks.
Speaker 4: Out just give me potential And i'll do the, rest
Speaker 4: AND i.
Speaker 2: Think about the tackling. Thing you.
Speaker 1: Know And Jeremy, green you, know he's a great. Dude
Speaker 1: he's been on our draft. Show, Yeah hustle. Analysts he's, like,
Speaker 1: well if he's going someplace, like you're gonna learn from
Speaker 1: literally the best tackler in the history of THE, nfl
Speaker 1: Like Bobby. Wagner they talk about Dan quinn coaching tackling
Speaker 1: like that's something THAT i feel like they can help
Speaker 1: them get.
Speaker 5: IT i feel like he got a little bit more
Speaker 5: Frank louvu AND i can see him diving over the Super.
Speaker 3: Dome or something like.
Speaker 5: THAT i feel Like Frankie louvu seems to be the
Speaker 5: one that rubs off on this key.
Speaker 2: Dude you.
Speaker 1: Know so he was at The Shrine, bowl so and
Speaker 1: AND i said this somewhere else and again LIKE i
Speaker 1: don't want To he's a six round, pick SO i
Speaker 1: don't overhype.
Speaker 3: Him, no he's, no this dude is.
Speaker 2: Talented but, like so they're, there so this is what.
Speaker 1: Happens so they're in one on. Ones, right he's playing
Speaker 1: one on one at the running. Back he has two
Speaker 1: pick sixes in that. Drill and you you remember running
Speaker 1: running back one on? One, yeah, yeah the running back
Speaker 1: should never lose that.
Speaker 3: Drill, no because they got, legs they got the, leverage, everything.
Speaker 2: And they can go.
Speaker 1: Anyway there's no offensive. Line this guy has two picks.
Speaker 1: Drill you go to team watching The Shrine. Bowl he
Speaker 1: has two sacks rushing as an. End so LIKE i
Speaker 1: just look at. Him i'm like, THIS i don't.
Speaker 2: Know what you do with.
Speaker 1: Him, yeah but the athletes, there teams teams value right
Speaker 1: at the, door excited about the, prospect and hopefully learns that.
Speaker 3: Attack and his name Is.
Speaker 2: And THEN i think that leads really.
Speaker 1: Nicely Into jacory krossky merrit running back From, arizona who
Speaker 1: is maybe the most intriguing.
Speaker 4: Kind, yeah very interesting about his little last year mishap
Speaker 4: of playing only one, Game, well.
Speaker 3: That says a lot drafted.
Speaker 4: It but it's crazy is that he just Mentioned AND
Speaker 4: i heard. IT i heard when the scouts say that
Speaker 4: play one. Game it was a little mishap with him, transfermed.
Speaker 3: So he may have to miss the rest of the.
Speaker 4: Season then he goes and plays in the bowl game
Speaker 4: after missing the entire year of playing.
Speaker 1: Football and it's even later because it's The Shrine Balls
Speaker 1: All star game.
Speaker 3: And you go B nvp of that bowl, Game like
Speaker 3: that is hard to.
Speaker 4: Do think about how much football he had to, Watch,
Speaker 4: yes and it's how hard is it to not go
Speaker 4: out there and compete against somebody and still be in
Speaker 4: shape enough to go out there and dominate.
Speaker 5: That i've never heard of it to, ME i heard
Speaker 5: this story. Before, Yeah i've never seen. It that's.
Speaker 1: Impossible he's got a bummer for, Him but like it's
Speaker 1: awesome for The commanders because when you watch him so
Speaker 1: he was At New mexico before he's he's a three
Speaker 1: school guy.
Speaker 2: Too yea transferred Up New.
Speaker 1: Mexico was like a thout over one thousand yard, rusher
Speaker 1: had seventeen, touchdowns seventy.
Speaker 2: Two, ers like really good football.
Speaker 1: Player when you watch, him there is a like a
Speaker 1: running back athleticism the. Pops so for, example at the,
Speaker 1: combine his ten yard split was one five and so
Speaker 1: think about we were just talking About Jaylen. Lane his
Speaker 1: split was one five and he round.
Speaker 3: Of four to.
Speaker 1: Three, yeah, Right so extremely, explosive. Prosive he had a
Speaker 1: forty inch vertical at two hundred and ten pounds, bodyweight burst,
Speaker 1: Right and so when you watch, him like his ability
Speaker 1: to kind of find the, crease get, downhill kind of
Speaker 1: not take a big, shot keep his shoulder pad square
Speaker 1: like he's a you said receivers, receiver, yeah or defensive
Speaker 1: backs defense like he's a runners.
Speaker 3: Runner he got in the priests, home, Dude, YEAH i like.
Speaker 2: THAT i didn't think about, that but that's actually.
Speaker 3: It takes the draft. Room he got to lit priests.
Speaker 2: Home And i'm not gonna we're not saying he's A
Speaker 2: hall Of fame, Player.
Speaker 5: No, No i'm saying, stylistically like the one thing football
Speaker 5: players are always good at is comparing another football player
Speaker 5: to a football.
Speaker 3: Player that they.
Speaker 5: Played like WHEN i see him and at first step
Speaker 5: in a, Burst i'm, like, OH i seen this before pres,
Speaker 5: home BEFORE i looked at the back of his jersey
Speaker 5: when he got little.
Speaker 2: On they kind of are the same kind of.
Speaker 3: Body and what he does have is.
Speaker 5: Balance like WHEN i play running, backs the first THING
Speaker 5: i want to know is what his ballance? Here because
Speaker 5: he's telling, me, AM i gonna cut, him lower. Him
Speaker 5: i'm just gonna try to wrap him up like he's
Speaker 5: a wrap up. Guy if you don't wrap him, up
Speaker 5: he will not.
Speaker 1: Follow and then you, know now with all the advanced,
Speaker 1: analytics you know these bowl games and stuff that The Shrine,
Speaker 1: bowl Specifically All Star, game you had the best deceleration
Speaker 1: of any player at the. Event so talk about the
Speaker 1: ability to kind of stick your foot in the, ground
Speaker 1: make someone, miss, stop start like HE'S i think he's.
Speaker 3: Got he got a little burying them then, too that
Speaker 3: ability to stop is a running back is. Everything he's
Speaker 3: got a social skills to set him.
Speaker 1: Up SO i THINK i think he in a in
Speaker 1: a in a if he plays this last. Year he's
Speaker 1: probably a third or fourth round draft. Pick but he
Speaker 1: only played one game At arizona and he's here for The.
Speaker 1: Commander so WHEN i, SAID i.
Speaker 2: And we'll, see he's.
Speaker 1: Got you, know obviously got to Compete gott to warn that.
Speaker 1: Spot and he's a seventh round, pick so he's just
Speaker 1: above a UD. F. A, yeah but guess what if
Speaker 1: you're a seven round pick in a five pick.
Speaker 2: Draft, yeah you was drafted with a.
Speaker 3: Purpose LIKE i always look at the whole. PICTURE i.
Speaker 5: DON'T i don't look at my new ship like we
Speaker 5: only have five. Picks they wanted to make all five
Speaker 5: of these picks, count.
Speaker 1: And so we talked about the top and one of
Speaker 1: the things THAT i took away is Like Josh, Connolly Trey,
Speaker 1: Amos Jalen, Lane Cane, madrono and Uh, Ja Cory Krossky
Speaker 1: merrits all the.
Speaker 2: Same they all have a.
Speaker 1: Shot, yes and there's there's been in years past from
Speaker 1: like no way the student makes. It he's going to
Speaker 1: be a player maybe in two, years but all these
Speaker 1: guys could be, yeah playing football for The washington and, help, yeah.
Speaker 3: Help help the team.
Speaker 4: Win he's in a running back, room with all the
Speaker 4: guys there all they all be free agents next, year
Speaker 4: so you definitely have a chance to really go out
Speaker 4: there and. Compete knowing that these guys you, know on
Speaker 4: a last, leg you know WHAT i, Mean so makes.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: Doubt, man that's a great. POINT i got to think
Speaker 1: more about that in this. Analysis that's. Great so those
Speaker 1: are the five draft. Picks we'll talk more about the
Speaker 1: udfas at a later time when that lift list gets,
Speaker 1: finalized because it's still a little up in the air
Speaker 1: at the, moment but now it's gonna lead us to
Speaker 1: risk it for the biscuit thinking you're better than AN
Speaker 1: NFL gm presented by marsh mc lennon, agency your partner
Speaker 1: in risk in people's. Strategies so what we're gonna do
Speaker 1: in this segment is we're gonna talk about some people
Speaker 1: who took a little bit of a, skid AND i guess.
Speaker 2: We'll start with the story of the.
Speaker 1: DRAFT i feel very comfortable saying that In shador Sanders,
Speaker 1: yard AND i think a lot of people are, like.
Speaker 2: Oh he was the first round.
Speaker 1: Talent the more PEOPLE i talked to who saw him
Speaker 1: more as a kind of fringe, first so like late
Speaker 1: first early, SECOND i Think David, Carr Drew brees type of. Prospect,
Speaker 1: Yeah AND i think it's just important to note that
Speaker 1: when you are in that kind of, range you should
Speaker 1: interview with everybody.
Speaker 2: That asks you have to do a good, job.
Speaker 5: And you so also go to The Senior, bowl and
Speaker 5: you should also every time you get to showcase your,
Speaker 5: talent you should showcase your, talent like this was the
Speaker 5: biggest how SHOULD i, say looking in the mirror and
Speaker 5: not seeing what's really truthfully there THAT i have ever
Speaker 5: seen in my. Life and it's not his. Fault, no,
Speaker 5: no it's the nil. Fault LIKE i, said this nil has.
Speaker 5: Blurred it would blur like ja because college look like.
Speaker 5: This the pros don't look at you like this same
Speaker 5: way you think about it between him And Queen orrs
Speaker 5: like Quin URRs should have stayed in, college like he
Speaker 5: should have stayed in.
Speaker 3: College the guy went into say him.
Speaker 8: ROUND i didn't say he could have made four million
Speaker 8: dollars in college and even to make eight hundred, thousand
Speaker 8: and the league LIKE i think THIS nia thing and
Speaker 8: the pro thing Is finna but hates you, Know AND
Speaker 8: i think this was the first view of D.
Speaker 2: Well this is an interesting part about.
Speaker 1: IT i think If shrador had done some of the
Speaker 1: stuff you're talking, about if you had gone to The Senior,
Speaker 1: bowl if you like he went to The Shrine, bowl
Speaker 1: if he throws at The Shrine, bowl like let people see. You,
Speaker 1: yes do your, thing you know What i'm. Saying and
Speaker 1: then if you're gonna, interview, like, remember this is the
Speaker 1: biggest interview process annually every, year, right don't so be
Speaker 1: basically FROM i, understand and this is all from like
Speaker 1: the various. Reports he, Said i'm gonna interview with three. Teams,
Speaker 1: Right i'm gonna interview with the top, Pick So tennessee
Speaker 1: was It, Tennessee cleveland And New?
Speaker 2: York? Right and apparently he botched the interview with The
Speaker 2: New York, giants.
Speaker 3: Of, course not seeing him on a chalk.
Speaker 1: Bullets and then he, Said i'm not interviewing with anybody.
Speaker 1: Else and so if you do that because and he
Speaker 1: said and and the other thing he said Is i'm
Speaker 1: gonna do that BECAUSE i don't want to play for that.
Speaker 1: Team and so all of a, sudden If i'm that,
Speaker 1: Team i'm be, like all, right well kick. Rocks and
Speaker 1: SO i think, again you just just a mismanagement of.
Speaker 3: The biggest MISMANAGEMENT i have. Ever this is the biggest
Speaker 3: draft fall of all. Time Like i'm sorry it.
Speaker 5: Is it is like talent, perception all of it all.
Speaker 5: Together it was the Big like it was so big that,
Speaker 5: we LIKE i, said we wasn't talking about the big
Speaker 5: story to, me and it's Cam. Ward Kim ward was
Speaker 5: the big story to, me like the rise from zero
Speaker 5: to hero cannot be. Compared LIKE i was, like why
Speaker 5: ain't nobody talking about Kim? Ward and NOW i know his
Speaker 5: suit stump like That santana, FOLK i knew his super.
Speaker 3: Stump BUT i was, like this is the story we
Speaker 3: should not be talking. About should do? It but because
Speaker 3: it was put this.
Speaker 5: High and put on this pedestal to watch him the,
Speaker 5: DEMISE i think more people was caught up in the
Speaker 5: demise of The sanders name than they were.
Speaker 4: Anything that was a lot of things that stood out
Speaker 4: to me about the WHOLE i guess you can say
Speaker 4: the whole mockery because at one point leading up to the,
Speaker 4: DRAFT i heard his name entirely too, much AND i was,
Speaker 4: like this is. Odd something's brewing THAT i don't think
Speaker 4: it's gonna. Be this is gonna be interesting come.
Speaker 3: Draft. Dare, NOW i didn't know what was gonna.
Speaker 4: HAPPEN i had a feeling that it wasn't gonna be
Speaker 4: the top ten, guys top ten.
Speaker 2: TEAMS i, mean.
Speaker 3: BUT i didn't have no clue it was gonna get
Speaker 3: the way it.
Speaker 4: Got and WHEN i saw what ended up, happening they
Speaker 4: got to the point of where we the draft was
Speaker 4: over for, us for, us you, know covering. It we
Speaker 4: was at the draft party AND i someone's, like.
Speaker 3: Hey should do.
Speaker 4: Fun i'm, like, Oh, diddy and he was, like By.
Speaker 4: Cleveland i'm, like, so you mean to tell Me cleveland
Speaker 4: always had one of, them you know WHAT i. Mean
Speaker 4: they want him to the first time when they, draft you,
Speaker 4: know traded the. Draft they want him to the second
Speaker 4: time when they ended up getting a. Quarterback so to,
Speaker 4: me it looked like something that he did THAT i didn't. Know,
Speaker 4: yeah and then WHEN i sat down and watched different you,
Speaker 4: know sport, outlooks they basically had the same saying like
Speaker 4: we've always been so regardless of his football or. Anything
Speaker 4: when you're in an interview for a, job you have
Speaker 4: to give these people your, Best, yes be at your.
Speaker 4: Best AND i think some of the things that kind
Speaker 4: of transpired from when.
Speaker 3: His dad was going through.
Speaker 4: That, yeah he thought he could do the same.
Speaker 3: Thing i'm not saying he's. Wrong i'm not saying he's.
Speaker 3: Right he took the Wrongpro.
Speaker 4: You have to understand when you're a, Quarterback, yeah they
Speaker 4: hold you to a different standard than the Corner VAND i,
Speaker 4: think to, me after hearing some of the things that
Speaker 4: they said he, DID i was, like, well damn If
Speaker 4: momba in the interview caused you to drop That, lotte
Speaker 4: everybody who watched this situation transpire shouldn't ever have to
Speaker 4: worry about going to anybody's interview again and taking it for.
Speaker 3: Granted you know What i'm.
Speaker 5: Saying, Also i'm gonna tell you WHEN i was, like come,
Speaker 5: On shador like stop. It after the first night he
Speaker 5: didn't get drafted first, round he started, rapping AND i was, like,
Speaker 5: dude at one, point you got to realize you are
Speaker 5: not a wide, Receiver you're not a running.
Speaker 3: Back you are you are the face of a.
Speaker 5: Franchise you cannot be what we Can you can't do
Speaker 5: what we can. Do like the best Quarterbacks i've been around,
Speaker 5: it they aloof a little. Bit they still part a
Speaker 5: team hyper, profession but they just so, like, MAN i
Speaker 5: WISH i could do what y'all.
Speaker 3: DO i just.
Speaker 5: Can't they're locked. In they locked in in a way
Speaker 5: and should do. It to, me it was like it's my,
Speaker 5: world y'all just living in, it AND i don't think
Speaker 5: you can do that as a quarterback like THEY i
Speaker 5: think THE nfl went out of their way too humble,
Speaker 5: Him like they went out they way too humble, him
Speaker 5: and they.
Speaker 3: Did they humbled.
Speaker 2: It, YEAH i don't know if it was like, malicious but,
Speaker 2: again like if you, said.
Speaker 1: But think about like this, guy about the, process If
Speaker 1: i'm If i'm the.
Speaker 3: The, STEELERS i was semi pissed off of, them.
Speaker 1: And i'm, like, man and you're, sure And you're, LIKE
Speaker 1: i don't want to interview with you Because i'm not.
Speaker 2: GONNA i don't want to play for. You like DO
Speaker 2: i just take you off my? Board?
Speaker 3: Yeah maybe, Yes like, yeah because people are, like.
Speaker 2: You don't want to play for?
Speaker 3: Me, people first of, all who are you? Right it
Speaker 3: ain't but thirty two of? Us it's thirty two of?
Speaker 5: Us and at what point did he not think BECAUSE
Speaker 5: i get drafted by this, team don't MEAN i can't
Speaker 5: eventually play for this, Job.
Speaker 3: Like at what point do you?
Speaker 4: Miss it almost balls down to me, too even if
Speaker 4: you know with him being the what the fifth quarterback
Speaker 4: in the quarterback room With, CLEVELAND i Think cleveland has
Speaker 4: a chance.
Speaker 3: Now they have leverage to, say, hey we got should do.
Speaker 3: It who need a? Quarterback may we have this guy
Speaker 3: who need a? Quarterback it's Very Kirk. Cousins it's at.
Speaker 4: The point now where If cleveland feel like we can
Speaker 4: get something for this guy because a team need, him
Speaker 4: they can go ahead and make it.
Speaker 1: Dim he might mess around and start there like they
Speaker 1: have so many we think he's a talented. Player BUT
Speaker 1: i just think this is this is a this is
Speaker 1: a really good peak besides behind maybe into like what
Speaker 1: the professionalism level of these?
Speaker 2: Interviews, yeah like so like.
Speaker 3: It's really funny like doing stuff on the field.
Speaker 1: Correct so like WHEN i call my buddies And i'm
Speaker 1: talking him about certain, Guys i'm, like oh what about PLAYER,
Speaker 1: X and, like, YEAH i didn't love him in the,
Speaker 1: Interview LIKE i had multiple conversations with guys WHERE i
Speaker 1: was Like i'm gonna tell THE gm to take him
Speaker 1: off the.
Speaker 2: Board, yeah BECAUSE i.
Speaker 1: Didn't he didn't interview well with, me And i'm nervous about.
Speaker 1: IT i don't really like, him and it's and it
Speaker 1: just is a nice peak behind that. Process and, again
Speaker 1: like you, Know dion is his dad trying to provide
Speaker 1: a good. Advice but one of the things the agent
Speaker 1: does that's really really valuable is that they have connections
Speaker 1: with all the gms in THE. Nfl so you'd be,
Speaker 1: like what's your great on? Him do you think he's
Speaker 1: gonna Go, Yeah i'm sure he would have been able
Speaker 1: to get better advice somebody was plugged. In, Yeah AND
Speaker 1: i think that makes it really. Challenging LIKE i think
Speaker 1: about the way my agent, handles you, KNOW i do
Speaker 1: tight end development for him, now, Right so WHEN i
Speaker 1: talk to him and he's, like, oh, yeah he's gonna
Speaker 1: go at this pic in this, range And i'm just,
Speaker 1: like And i'll be damned of every year it isn't
Speaker 1: the exact. Range but that's valuable because then you're, like,
Speaker 1: hey you need this, Son you got an interview with
Speaker 1: all these.
Speaker 3: Teams, no it's.
Speaker 5: Realistic he's giving you a realistic view of what it
Speaker 5: really is and they're not gonna devoge this To. Prime
Speaker 5: they will do they will devote this to an agent
Speaker 5: because they've got, relationships AND i gotta deal with.
Speaker 3: This agent year in and year, Out Like i'm gonna
Speaker 3: deal with him next.
Speaker 4: YEAR i could tell, You like some of that too was.
Speaker 4: Transparring and the first THING i thought about was, like
Speaker 4: it's some of these people who have THOSE i guess
Speaker 4: you can say those who make those calls probably don't
Speaker 4: even want to Call prime because being that He's. Prime,
Speaker 4: Yeah and they was a little you, know they feared
Speaker 4: him a little, way you know WHAT i. Mean and
Speaker 4: this thing about, it IF i got a funny feeling about,
Speaker 4: you you don't Think i'm gonna feel funny about your.
Speaker 3: Son you see What i'm.
Speaker 4: Saying like like being a person of, Business, yeah no
Speaker 4: matter what we're, doing how good you is at what we.
Speaker 3: Do IF i ain't got.
Speaker 4: The best relationship with, you, Yeah i'm gonna look at
Speaker 4: your son, like well he might be the same.
Speaker 3: Person, bingo you know WHAT i.
Speaker 4: Mean so that's WHAT i was thinking the whole time
Speaker 4: this was going, On, like but, damn the ain't they
Speaker 4: ain't taking it out on him.
Speaker 5: This reek of LIKE i ain't gonna. LIE i was
Speaker 5: watching the, DRAFT i was like, this, reeks DO i
Speaker 5: should johnny manzaiel like should? Do it had some Johnny
Speaker 5: Man's Aiah. Colonel it had This i'm, Brash i'm Gonna
Speaker 5: i'm gonna play Quarter i'm gonna do quarterback in my,
Speaker 5: way MEANING i know we're supposed to be, politicians But
Speaker 5: i'm gonna be more like an.
Speaker 3: Entertainer it had wreaked Of johnnyman's Al.
Speaker 2: But ALSO i THINK i don't think.
Speaker 1: IT i don't THINK nfl teams care that much about that,
Speaker 1: Specifically LIKE i think you've played with guys And i've
Speaker 1: seen guys be successful that are. Bigger Kim newton's a good.
Speaker 1: Example he's a big, personality you, know.
Speaker 4: Very articulate and Sure i'm Sure cam killed his his
Speaker 4: his his.
Speaker 3: Meetings and that's What i'm.
Speaker 1: Saying you can be, brash brash if you handle your,
Speaker 1: business money your.
Speaker 3: Business and so if you.
Speaker 2: Are brash and you don't be, there but.
Speaker 4: You better be good on that board that chop, boy
Speaker 4: you better be good.
Speaker 1: Enough, Interviews Like Kim ward is a brash, Dude like
Speaker 1: he's like when you watch him an interview and we
Speaker 1: watch him with his teammates like he's, aggressive he's, confident
Speaker 1: but it's.
Speaker 2: Business it's, Business AND i think.
Speaker 1: That that's something that, again like there's just and then
Speaker 1: the other THING i just want to point out to
Speaker 1: IS nfl teams don't want to deal with a.
Speaker 2: Headache they, don't so like if.
Speaker 1: You are going to bring all of this stuff with,
Speaker 1: you this brashness the prime LIKE i think about, IT
Speaker 1: i call It Tim tebow. Syndrome, Right like everyone's Like
Speaker 1: Tim tebow is good enough to be your third tight
Speaker 1: end In New, York like he was good enough to do,
Speaker 1: that but no one wants to have a press conference
Speaker 1: about about your third tight. End no one wants to
Speaker 1: have a press conference with your fifth. Quarterback like that's
Speaker 1: just annoying the. Coach you got to answer questions about,
Speaker 1: it because think about every single question In cleveland now
Speaker 1: is going to be like he should do, it how
Speaker 1: should you're, playing what's he?
Speaker 2: Doing what's going?
Speaker 1: On because that's what you write stories, About and it's
Speaker 1: just a headache from a media. Standpoint SO i think
Speaker 1: that's again just A i think he's a really good case.
Speaker 5: Study he, is and everybody forgot.
Speaker 3: That Dealing gabriel with third.
Speaker 1: Round think about how he handled the. Process he went
Speaker 1: to The Senior. Bowl yes he crushed the, Interviews, yes
Speaker 1: everyone loved.
Speaker 3: Him, yeah but he's. Tiny, look, Man i'm.
Speaker 4: So far removed from the, draft BUT i. LEARNED i
Speaker 4: learned so much watching. That, MAN i.
Speaker 3: LEARNED i learned a. Lot and it's the craziest part about.
Speaker 4: It days removed from the, DRAFT i changed my whole
Speaker 4: perspective of, it you know WHAT i. Mean LIKE i
Speaker 4: was thinking one thing And i'm, like, oh so you did.
Speaker 4: That you can't do, that.
Speaker 2: You know What i'm.
Speaker 3: Saying LIKE i was more.
Speaker 4: BIG i was sitting up pissed, off, like, man you
Speaker 4: can't do this city people because Of. Prime and then
Speaker 4: after days of watching it and here And i'm, like, oh,
Speaker 4: well this wasn't really About. Prime it might be a little,
Speaker 4: bit but this question about you're not your, dad thank,
Speaker 4: You you're.
Speaker 3: Not, There you're not.
Speaker 4: Exceptional come in here and be what we want to
Speaker 4: want you to. Be and then we would give you
Speaker 4: that floor for you to hold your hand high and say.
Speaker 4: Legend they all, that but you have to come in
Speaker 4: here and you ain't legend, there and.
Speaker 2: It's not even be what we want you to.
Speaker 3: Be it's just be a be, Approve, yeah a Pro
Speaker 3: i'm saying what you want to?
Speaker 2: Approve, yeah be a prod in.
Speaker 3: Anything and uh so again that's.
Speaker 2: SURE i think he's really good.
Speaker 1: Microcops and the other ONE i just wanted to call
Speaker 1: attention to real quick because we're gonna wrap here is Well.
Speaker 1: Johnson everyone's, like we should have Taken Well johnson at twenty.
Speaker 1: Nine we should say he had a degenerative nee issue
Speaker 1: that was reported after the, draft and so you better
Speaker 1: believe every single team in THE nfl knew that and
Speaker 1: that's why he. Falls and so you see stuff like,
Speaker 1: that you're NOT i, know everyone's like always tapes, good but,
Speaker 1: like what was the receiver of that?
Speaker 2: Put Malcolm?
Speaker 5: Kelly, yes we had mackham, here and we get we
Speaker 5: didn't get.
Speaker 1: A yoid out of maclem because the knees because his pre,
Speaker 1: surgery and SO i like those are things that as
Speaker 1: fans and even us as, analysts we're always privy to
Speaker 1: and so like understanding the medical, understanding how significant was
Speaker 1: call that?
Speaker 3: Pick weel justin to be one of my stars in
Speaker 3: that draft, OFF i don't.
Speaker 2: REMEMBER i THINK i DID i have just blew. It,
Speaker 2: no you're, okay but that's gonna do. It for today's.
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