1 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we call Aidan O'Connell AOC, 2 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: but it's a little confusing. I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm down 3 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: in Costa Mesa at Raiders training camp. That's gonna be 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: a little different NFL Daily. I talked that to Sean Rieda, 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: the Athletic about the Raiders deep dive. I'm a little 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: optimistic about this Raiders team if it wasn't for the quarterbacks. 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: Man. 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: The quarterbacks struggled here on Tuesday, but that's been the 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:35,959 Speaker 1: case throughout training camp. I think otherwise, this roster kind 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: of frisky, including their defense, including Jack Jones, who I 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: also spoke to. So you'll hear an interview with Jack Jones, 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: which was a lot of fun. And we'll wrap up 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: the show with some questions from y'all out of the 14 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: mail bag for NFL Daily. But quickly gonna hit the 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: news to start the show. Brandon Ayuk, I hit it 16 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: on our last show, got permission to talk trade with 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: the Patriot with the Browns. They've agreed to trade terms 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: and now it's in Brandon Ayuk's court, and I think 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: the silence speaks volumes right now. That the forty nine 20 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: ers were maybe in a position where they thought, Look, 21 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk doesn't necessarily want to go to either of 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: these teams, but we'll have to wait and see. 23 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: No real updates on that as of yet. 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: Girod Mayo, the Patriots head coach, said he's learned from 25 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: his guy Bill Belichick not to talk about players on 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: other rosters. Other than that, just got some updates about 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: who's playing in the preseason who's not. We got Jared 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: Stidham as the starter in Denver. Drod Mayo said he's 29 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: going to play all four of his quarterbacks, So we 30 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: get some Drake may we get some Jacoby Brissett this weekend, 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: which I'm very excited about. Jayden Daniels is going to 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: get the start for Washington this weekend, and just selfishly, 33 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: I want as many good players as possible to play 34 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: in the preseason this week because Nick Schuck and I 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: are going to wrap up all the games on our 36 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: show that airs Monday morning. More interesting players, the better 37 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: this week in Texans are also going to play their start, 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: and Jordan Love is also. 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: Going to play. 40 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: Other than that, couple of minor moves, Adrian Amos signs 41 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: with the Jaguars might end up being their starting safety. 42 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: The Lions lose Emmanuel Moseley, who is a cornerback, was 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: potentially going to be their starter at nickel, and that's 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: a little tricky because they might have to move Brian 45 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: Branch into that spot eventually, not what they wanted. Also, 46 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: everyone's favorite kicker in America, Harrison Bucker, became. 47 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: The highest paid kicker in the NFL. A great kicker. 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: They would not win those Super Bowls without him. And 49 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: I will leave it at that for Harrison Bucker and 50 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: for the news. Let's get to Tshan Reid and start 51 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: talking some raiders. All right, we are here to talk 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: some raiders with Tashan Reid of the Athletic, one of 53 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: the best beat writers out there, the best two man 54 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: combo with Vic Tafer at the Athletic. Go check out 55 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: their coverage. They do a great job. We were here 56 00:02:55,440 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: watching this offense struggle. Was that typical? That typical you've 57 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: seen down here. 58 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 4: It's been a pretty constant thing through throughout training camp 59 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 4: so far, I mean, and really since OTA's I mean, 60 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: it's been rough for the offense, particularly the quarterbacks. 61 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 5: Obviously, this was a great defense last year. They were 62 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 5: ninth in scoring. 63 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 4: So they're going up against a tough unit, but you 64 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 4: would like to see more flashes than they they've shown 65 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 4: so far. 66 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna start on the optimistic front, and 67 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: then we'll get into the quarterbacks and the offensive struggles. 68 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: And the optimistic case for them is that these lines, 69 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: to my eye, could be pretty good. I thought the 70 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: offensive line was underrated last year. You think differently after 71 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: we talked ahead of time, so maybe I'm wrong. I 72 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: don't trust myself, and that the defense could be a 73 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: top ten group, and that the skill position players if 74 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: you really look at it. 75 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: Davanta won, Jacoby's a good too. I liked what Tray 76 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 3: Tucker did. 77 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: Two really good young tight ends, like that's more than 78 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: enough to win with. So usually Raiders fans are incredibly irrational, 79 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: overly optimistic. They're always getting on me for doubting them, 80 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: and usually I'm right the last twenty years. But this 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: year I can actually kind of see the irrational Raiders 82 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: fan case. 83 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: Are you feeling that? 84 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 5: I don't feel exactly the same way. I do. 85 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 4: Think there is some good things to celebrate. I mean, 86 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: like the defense. I think they're legit, and there's always 87 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 4: that question when you have one unit dominating the other 88 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: in training camp is or are they good? Or are 89 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 4: you just going against a bad offense or vice versa. 90 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 4: But I don't have any doubts about this defense. I mean, 91 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: they were a top ten unit last year, and really 92 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 4: after AP took over, you know, those last nine games 93 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: of the season, they finished I believe, first in scoring defense. 94 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 5: The rest of the way. 95 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 4: I mean, we saw what they did to the Chiefs 96 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 4: on Christmas Day. They went on to win the Super Bowl, 97 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 4: and they brought back nine starters last year, and one 98 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: of the starter change was a massive upgrade, you know, 99 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: getting Christian Wilkins defensive tackle from the Dolphins. And I mean, 100 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 4: you know, Patrick Graham, this is his third year with 101 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: the Raiders, and so he's really starting to, like, you know, 102 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 4: starting to loosen up the playbook. And I think AP 103 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 4: referred to like rolling dice out there. He's just trying stuff, 104 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 4: playing Russian roulette. And so the defense is clicking, and 105 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 4: I think that'll translate even when they're not going against 106 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 4: the struggle on offense. In terms of the offense, like 107 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 4: I think their offensive line last year struggled really towards 108 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 4: the beginning of the season. Like towards the end of 109 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 4: the year, they started to have more success running the 110 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 4: ball and then protecting the pastor a little bit better. 111 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,679 Speaker 4: And so they did make some progress, but they needed 112 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 4: to make upgrades, and I think they did that this offseason. 113 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 4: I mean, they drafted Jackson Powers Johnson the guard out 114 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 4: of Oregon. He's probably going to be a starter at 115 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 4: left guard if he can be healthy healthy right now, 116 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: he's on the pup list. You know, you got Colden 117 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 4: Miller back. He's one of a pretty solid left tackle. 118 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: And the rest of the unit is coming together well also. 119 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 4: And so as you said, I mean there's no shortage 120 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 4: of talent on this team when it comes to weapons. 121 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 4: I mean DeVante Adams arguably the best receiver in the league. 122 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 4: Jacob Myers is super underrated. You know, two tight ends. 123 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 4: You know, Brock Bowers. I know he's a rookie, but 124 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 4: he looks the part. So far as he looked. 125 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: They saw him lining up out wide on one play 126 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: where the receivers were actually on the inside. 127 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: That's cool. 128 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 129 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: I think some thirteen personnel where there's three tight ends 130 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: on the field, I think the third was Harrison Bryant 131 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: probably so like, yeah, how has Bauers looked. 132 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's sort of like a I don't 133 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 4: want to call him a jack of all trades because 134 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: he's really good, but they use him everywhere. I mean 135 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: they have him lined up in line as a traditional 136 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 4: tight end, they have him split out wide as an 137 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: outside receiver, they have him in the slot. You even 138 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 4: see him at h back sometimes. We've seen him take 139 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 4: jets sweeps like they're using them all over the place 140 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: and trying to maximize the skill set. It helps to 141 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 4: have more of a traditional tight end like Michael Mayor 142 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 4: who can play in line. You know, he's a he's 143 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 4: a bigger guy, he's about thirty pounds half yer. He's 144 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 4: a better blocker, and so that frees them up to 145 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 4: utilize Bowers in a lot of different ways. And even 146 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 4: Harrison Bryant, I mean, he's he's been a solid third 147 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 4: tight end for him. He's a he's a really good blocker. 148 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: He's lined up his full back. They don't have a 149 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 4: traditional one on the roster anymore. He's even made some 150 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 4: pays in the passing game as well. 151 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: So he made a nice catcher too. Yeah, that dude's 152 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: a big man. Those tight ends are crazy. 153 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, So I mean it's they have all the talent 154 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 4: and even Zamir White, you know, running back, you know, 155 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 4: he's he's taken over for Josh Jacobs this year and 156 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: that's those are big, big shoes to fill. I mean 157 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs, he's been a start running back for years now. 158 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 4: But he's looked pretty good. The issue has just been 159 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 4: there their core. 160 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get to it. 161 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: So today was pretty rough, Aidan O'Connell especially, just not 162 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: a lot of confidence with where he's gonna go with 163 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: the ball. To my eye, a lot of just pumping 164 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: where you can just see he's not on time where 165 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: pump pump goes and then throws a pick. I think 166 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: he had he had a handful today. We're gonna have 167 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: Jack Jones on right after you. He had a couple 168 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, and he didn't He did not look 169 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: like he was comfortable in this Luke Getsy offense. And 170 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: that's one thing that gives me a little bit of 171 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: pause when I thought their offense looked capable enough down 172 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: the stretch last year, but that was a different offensive scheme. 173 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: It was an intermoc Bohard degree. He's gone Luke Getzy 174 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: comes here from the Bears. You mentioned changing it to 175 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: kind of a zone scheme in terms of running just 176 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: a lot that's different. Like tell me where those two 177 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: guys are at Minshew and O'Connell in this competition. 178 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're neck and neck, but not in a good way, 179 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: you know, like they've they've both been struggling. I think O'Connell, 180 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: you know, he's more of the stationary pocket passer type 181 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 4: of guy, Like he doesn't have many athletic traits, Like 182 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 4: he's not going to be moving around, so he's going 183 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 4: to stand back there and fire, and the timing isn't 184 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: perfect and is not on the money, then he kind 185 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 4: of freezes up when he has to improvise. He's not 186 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: going to move around too much, you know, And so 187 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: that that leads to some of those anticipations throws where 188 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: he Jack Jones was three on three drill, I believe, 189 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: and it was a slant route and he telegraphed it 190 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 4: the whole way and Jack just jumps in front of 191 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 4: it and picks it. 192 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: And so but even that one was late, like you 193 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: could have thrown it earlier, and he kind of he 194 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: kind of pumped it. 195 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 4: But you can kind of see he's almost like determining 196 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: what he's gonna do before he does it, and like 197 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 4: that works sometimes and you need an element of that 198 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 4: in the timing base offense, you know. With with Luke Getzi, 199 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: I mean, he has some of those those Shanahan elements, 200 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 4: you know, coaching under the floor, but that can't be 201 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: what you do all the time. And Gardner Minshew, he 202 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 4: offers more of that escapability outside of the pocket. He's 203 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: more of a gamer type, but he takes it too far, 204 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 4: you know, pretty often, and that leads to some other 205 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 4: costly interceptions. I mean, he got picked off today towards 206 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 4: the end of practice by safety Trayvon Merrick on one 207 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 4: of those kinds of plays. And so he takes risks 208 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 4: that a quarterback should take if you're you know, Patrick Mahomes, 209 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: Josh Allen, Brett Farth kind of talent. He doesn't have 210 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: that type of talent and so it's been a struggle 211 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 4: for him. I mean it's it's early in camp, so 212 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 4: you don't want to overreact, but they still have a 213 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: month to try to figure out. But it hasn't been 214 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 4: hasn't been. 215 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: Right, They keep saying, the coaches that they want someone 216 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: to step up. Minshew apparently was better at the scrimmage, 217 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: which checks out like no co coach that's coach Cardner 218 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: Minshew has ever really fallen in love with him. Off practice, 219 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: they always kind of not want to play him, and 220 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: then he gets in the game, it's like okay, and 221 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: he ends up out playing the guys that are there. 222 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: And so if I was a Raiders fan, I'd be 223 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: a little disappointed. 224 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 3: I personally, I went back and watched him O'Connell, and I. 225 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 1: Thought, man, for a rookie, he did good things, and 226 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: they're the upsides bigger I gotta say for my one 227 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: day of scouting here. 228 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 3: Just the arm. 229 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: I thought he maybe had plus arm strength and maybe 230 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: I don't see that he has a bigger arm than 231 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, but not not even a plus arm. 232 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 5: So he's his thing is more accuracy. 233 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, But but the issue has been, like, as I said, 234 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 4: when things kind of get off schedule a little bit 235 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: and he has to create, like and you have to 236 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: move around and make throws on the run and maybe 237 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 4: make throws at a little bit more difficult, that's that's 238 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 4: when it starts to break down for him. And so 239 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: for me, Aiden like, I don't, I don't, you know. 240 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,199 Speaker 4: I mean, he was a Day three pick, right, I mean, 241 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 4: he's a he's a good backup. I think in my mind, 242 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 4: who can be a spot starter in a situation If 243 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 4: you get that out of a day three pick out 244 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 4: a quarterback, like that's a win. But they're asking him 245 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: to be something that's much more than that, you know, 246 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 4: and in terms of competing for a full time starting job, 247 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 4: you can't just be that type of guy, and so 248 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 4: he may not ultimately have that ceiling. I mean, he's 249 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: going to be twenty six years old this season, so 250 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: he's only a second year player. But you know, I 251 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 4: mean that he's twenty one, you know what I mean. 252 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 4: And so we'll see, Like again, we still have a 253 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: month to go before the season, and so maybe he 254 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 4: makes a ass improvement or even minshe because Minshew hasn't 255 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 4: hasn't you know, play lights out either. 256 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: And see if it's close. Though I would not that 257 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: we could do this at the NFL if it's in Vegas. 258 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: Like to me, it's gonna be Minshew week one if 259 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: it's that close, because I think they'll just trust in 260 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: the money that they gave him and the experience that 261 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: he's had at least showing he's a gamer and give 262 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: him a chance. I wanted to get to you on 263 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: how insane Max Crosby appears to be. I mean he 264 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: is just talking during the whole practice, so fired up 265 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: getting after these right tackles, to the point you almost 266 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: feel a little bad for him just he's beating up 267 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 1: on him. 268 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a mad man. I mean he plays the 269 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 4: same way you see him in games. I mean he 270 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 4: never comes off the field effort. He's talking. I know, 271 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 4: he went viral a couple of years ago for his 272 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 4: interaction with Patrick Mahomes and then going back and forth. 273 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 4: That's how he is all the time, you know, like 274 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: that's not an act that he turns on for game day, 275 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 4: you know, day in and day out. I mean he 276 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: has a off insane offseason regiment. I mean he's in 277 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: the facility pretty much every day at like six am. 278 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 5: He stays late. 279 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 4: He's really diligent about his body and so he takes 280 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 4: it as seriously as as anyone that you'll see in 281 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 4: the league. And that translates to practice and you always 282 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 4: feel bad for the right tackle. Last year was Jermaine 283 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 4: and luminoor and he got it every day this year. 284 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 4: They are Munford and the rookie DJ Glaze, and so 285 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 4: he doesn't hold back, and they view it. The Raiders, 286 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: they don't try to pull him back because they view 287 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 4: it as an Iron Sharpen's iron type of situation where 288 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 4: if you can come to hold your own against the 289 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 4: Max Crosby, then when you're going against you know, a 290 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 4: social pass rusher, you'll be all right. But you know 291 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: those early days of camp when he's really getting after 292 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 4: you and he's beating you play out to play and 293 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 4: letting you hear about it, that can be demoralizing to 294 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 4: a guy. And so but I think you need that because, 295 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you're going to go against some tough pass 296 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: rushers in this league. And if a guy can't hold 297 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 4: up against you know, some of the better ones, like 298 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 4: you can't trust him as you're starting right tackle or 299 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 4: left tackle, depending on what side that next Crosby is on. 300 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 4: And so if those guys can't stand the fire, then 301 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 4: you know you need to make an upgrade at their position. 302 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: They got a chance this here because the defensive line 303 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: talent is excellent. I think it's deeper than people realize 304 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: Malcolm Coons is a good player. The players inside are 305 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: stepping up. Obviously, Wilkins and Pierce got those linebackers. That's 306 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: where I give him a lot of credit just playing 307 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: at a level you wouldn't have expected last year. The 308 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: secondary a bit of a question, but certainly some talent there, 309 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: and they're bigger than they're better than some of their 310 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: parts you saw, and that happens with defense and energy. 311 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: I guess give us someone that you've seen, maybe on 312 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: the defensive side in this camp that stood out to 313 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: you that surprised, Maybe someone people don't know that much about. 314 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: It's gotta be Drecorian Bennett. Like you said, coming into 315 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 4: camp with the with the defense, the question was really 316 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 4: is that secondary complete? I mean, we knew what the 317 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 4: safeties could do with Marcus EPs and Trayvon Merrick. I 318 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 4: think they were one of the better safety tandemps in 319 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 4: the league last year. Jack Jones, once he got picked up, 320 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 4: really came on strong. Nickelback Nate Hobbs I think is 321 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 4: one of the better nickols in the league. But a 322 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: big hole was do. 323 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 5: They have another outside starting cornerback? 324 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 4: And ja Coryan Bennett, he was a rookie last year 325 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: he came in, he had a really strong camp training camp, 326 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 4: started the first four games of the season, but he 327 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: really struggled and he got hurt and he lost lost 328 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 4: his job and fell out of rotation. With training camp, 329 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 4: he's been balling man number number zero. 330 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he had a nice day too. Yeah, yeah, 331 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 3: hey all did though? Do you know what to think? 332 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: The secondary has been leading away? Honestly, I think they've 333 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: been the most impressive unit on defense because you know, 334 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 4: when the pads aren't on, like you know, the trench 335 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 4: play is kind of hard to fully evaluate that, but 336 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: whether the pads are on or off, the secondary has 337 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 4: been balling. But like all those days when the pass 338 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 4: do come on, you see the defensive line start to dominating. 339 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 4: How they kind of feed off of one another. And 340 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 4: I mean at linebacker Roberts Plaine, I mean he came 341 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: out of nowhere last season. I mean not just in 342 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 4: the run game, but he was really good in pass coverage. 343 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 4: So I mean, this defense to me, like it has 344 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 4: all the makings of potentially being a great one this year. 345 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: I love our Raiders fans that are listeners because I 346 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: feel like we have a lot. 347 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 3: I feel like we haven't covered that that much over 348 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 3: the years. 349 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: Is because they've been so boring, and this is the 350 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: one year I come in thinking like, I don't know, 351 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: I saw that over unders like six and a half 352 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,599 Speaker 1: or something. I know they have a tough schedule. I 353 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: think eleven of their first thirteen games are either in 354 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: division or against playoff teams from a year ago. They 355 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: start with a couple of road games, but those Indivision 356 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 1: games like now, maybe Week one half Chargers doesn't look 357 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,199 Speaker 1: too bad. If Herbert's not one hundred per Broncos aren't great, 358 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm definitely feeling over six and a half. I 359 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: was feeling maybe a couple over that. But are you're 360 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: not feeling it? Well, no, no, no, no, I will 361 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: put them above six and a half. I think that's 362 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: kind of low. 363 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 4: I think they're going to be somewhere around a five 364 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 4: hundred caliber team. I think the pessimism just I mean, 365 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 4: it's a quarterback driven league, So if you have, you know, 366 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 4: an uncertain situation standing right over there, if you have 367 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 4: undertain situations, then you know that that kind of makes 368 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 4: people less optimistic about you. But you know, I think 369 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 4: with their defense, if they can get their run game 370 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: going if the offensive scheme change under Luke Getzi, if 371 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 4: it ends up being a better fit. You mentioned that 372 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: they have weapons, like I think there's enough there for 373 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: them to stay competitive and win some of those games. 374 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: Maybe that people don't expect them to make, like do 375 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: they do they ultimately make the playoffs? I don't know, 376 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: Like the AFC is tough like this is. 377 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so. I'm not going that far. 378 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: But just to make it interest, I mean, give us, 379 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: give us. It's just been so many years of trying 380 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: to convince us. Oh yeah, the Dennis Allen Raiders are 381 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: going to do it to the Gruden Raiders like had 382 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: a like a little moment, but uh, these fans are starving. 383 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: I want to see it for them. So I'm on 384 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: your side this year. Raiders fans appreciate you. 385 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 5: To Sean appreciate you having me. 386 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 3: H all right, I am. 387 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: Here with Jack Jones, the Raiders quarterback, who, if he 388 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: keeps up this pace from today's practice, is gonna set 389 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: the NFL record for interceptions this year and kickoff returns. 390 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: You're not in all seriously, I'm half joking or you're 391 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: actually gonna do that? Nah? 392 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's the goal, you know, to go in 393 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: there and do something that's never been done. 394 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I picked the right day. 395 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: A couple of the other writers we were watching this, 396 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, who are you gonna have on? I 397 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: was like, oh, Jack Jones is coming on. And then 398 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: you get one pick great anticipation out of eight and 399 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: O'Connor was like a three on three Joe, you get 400 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: another pick later you have a big return. You boot 401 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: that return actually so far it almost took out our 402 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: guy Drake here behind the camera. So I was like, 403 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: this was the right day to have Jack Jones out. 404 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: You've had a lot of days like that out here. 405 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 406 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 5: Every day. 407 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: You know, the defense been coming out, stepping up and 408 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 2: you know, playing hard, and I think that right there 409 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: is going to leave the players being made. 410 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 411 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: I wonder when you look at your role in this defense, 412 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: do you think you're it's part of your job to 413 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: take the ball away and score some points for this offense. 414 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: Definitely, you know, I can't be a guy giving up touchdowns, 415 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: giving up a lot of passes, giving up you als. 416 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: You know, that's not good coming from a dB, especially 417 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: when you have a a D line like we have 418 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: you know, plays have to be made. 419 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, where do you kind of see yourself? You've had 420 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 3: an interesting career. 421 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: Obviously, you start out in New England and really a 422 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: great start to your career on the field. Some things 423 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: don't work out there. Then you come to the Raiders 424 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: and make a big time impact and really you're their 425 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: best cornerback. I think the way you played last year 426 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,959 Speaker 1: and coming into this year as a number one cornerback, 427 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: where kind of where do you see yourself amongst all 428 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: these league cornerbacks out there? 429 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: Thank you, I appreciate that, But I mean, if you 430 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 2: ask me, I think I'm the best corner in the league. 431 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: And I think every corner that's going out there stepping 432 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 2: on that field, you feel like that. You know, it's 433 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 2: a thin line between arrogance and confidence, you know, so 434 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: you got to be confidently going out there, and if 435 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: you're not confident then you, you know, you setting yourself 436 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 2: up for failure. 437 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: So I believe I'm the best. 438 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: So does that thin line getting you in some trouble 439 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: sometimes going against the same guys every day on offense? 440 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 5: Definitely definitely were. 441 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: You guys getting and there wasn't much fights anything. But 442 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: how's it been. It sounds like the defense has kind 443 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 1: of been dominating day after day against this offense. 444 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: They're getting upset. 445 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 2: H I mean, we're just trying to push the offense 446 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,399 Speaker 2: to be the best that they can be, because we 447 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 2: know if we if we go hard and don't give 448 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 2: it them any breaks, then you know, that's gonna make 449 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 2: them better in the season. So we just try to 450 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 2: go out there and compete and show them a real look. 451 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, we we had you. 452 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: I did a show with my friend Mina Kimes on 453 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 1: ESPN a couple weeks ago where we each had to 454 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: pick an X factor for the Raiders and separately, we 455 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: actually both picked you, just because the ceiling feels very 456 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: high for you and really for this defense. It was 457 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 1: kind of representing this defense. Where do you guys kind 458 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: of feel like you fit into the NFL where the 459 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: Raiders defense is at. 460 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: I believe we have top five defense in the league, 461 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: you know, and this upciping season, we're going to show 462 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: exactly why we're I believe we're a top five, you know, 463 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: defense in the league. But you know, without a question, 464 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 2: I think we top five. 465 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy because you got here in the middle 466 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: of last year. And it was pretty close to when 467 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: Tonio Pierce got the job and that defense really took off. 468 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: What was what was it like joining this culture and like, 469 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: how was the difference in how this team operates, especially 470 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, and like where 471 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: you came from in New England. 472 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: I just think ap Ap get the guys going, you know, 473 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: he know how to bring the best out the players. 474 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: He can get you, he can get the fire, you 475 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: know from the players and have every player player going 476 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: out there with their head on fire, you know, just 477 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: flying around willing to give it off for the team. 478 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: And I think if you don't have that as a 479 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 2: as a player, have a coach that you really believe in, 480 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 2: then it's gonna be tough to go out there and 481 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 2: give give you all. So we have Ap and I 482 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: give hasts off to him, give all the credit to him. 483 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: Max also kind of get you guys going, get me going, 484 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: just watching there. 485 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Max is a guy that shows up every practice, 486 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: every play almost you know, it's just undeniable. 487 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: What was it like you had that Christmas game where 488 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: you really shut down that Chiefs defense. That was a 489 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: big time moment for your team. And now you're back, 490 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: it's your first full season with the Raiders and you're 491 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: looking up at those guys as the back to back 492 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: defending champs three three Super Bowls. What is it like 493 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: going against that team and Mahomes and having that target 494 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: for you guys to go after in this division. 495 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 5: That's a good team right there. 496 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 2: And we know every time we see Patrick Mahomes and 497 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, this is gonna be a tough game. You know, 498 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: if we don't come out there, you know, playing a 499 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 2: Simon Alim Simon alignment game, then we'll lose. Because that team, 500 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 2: they're real disciplined, you know what I'm saying. They have 501 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: a great quarterback on their side. So we know the 502 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 2: type of challenges we have when we when we face 503 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. So I think it's gonna be a lot 504 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: of you know, a lot of click clack and a 505 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 2: lot of talk and good game coming from the Raiders 506 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: and the Chiefs. 507 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it had been a minute since the Raiders 508 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: could could shut down the Chiefs like that? 509 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: How did you do that? Once again, credit to AP 510 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: and credit to the defense and the team. You know, 511 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 2: one thing I noticed when we was out there on 512 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 2: Christmas Day was you know, sometimes some games we would 513 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,239 Speaker 2: be like defense would be like, dang, defense, back up, 514 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: we want the offense to score. But that game, we 515 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: didn't blink, you know, we didn't question it when when 516 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: defense was up, everybody had they had on ready to 517 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 2: go and was ready to step on the field. 518 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: All right, I want you to talk me through one 519 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: of my favorite plays from the twenty twenty three season. 520 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: I think you know where I'm going with this, that 521 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: interception that you had against the Chargers. I'm probably not 522 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: the first person to ask, but that to me is 523 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: what it's an all time like cornerback play, a play 524 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: I think people are gonna remember where you reached back 525 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: and you read the play. Kind of walk me through 526 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: how that play took place for you. 527 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: Last year it was a film study for one for 528 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: two Coach PG. You know, Coach Pat Graham. He made 529 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: the call to put me in position to make that play. 530 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 2: You know, we played cover two on that play, and 531 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: that allowed me to take that chance to make that play. 532 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: If PG would call cover three or man a man, 533 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 2: you know, I would have had to stay back and 534 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 2: do my technique. But PG put it sent a great 535 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 2: cause to be able to make that play. I've seen 536 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 2: some four by one Okay, I seen Yeah, I've seen 537 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 2: four by one piecing out. 538 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 5: That's what I was looking for. 539 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 2: And after that, you know, PG, he just I mean 540 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 2: after that I made the play. I went up and 541 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 2: made the play. PG put us in position seen four 542 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: by one? 543 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 5: I want and got it. 544 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: Do you have a moment like when you're making a 545 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: play like that? And that was on Thursday night football. 546 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: I actually had my my son. That's the only game 547 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: of the week I get to. 548 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: Watch with him. 549 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 3: Did you even have in that moment? 550 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're going crazy, like, man, that's a play 551 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 1: that's making eight year olds go crazy all over the country. 552 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 4: Nah. 553 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 5: I didn't think that, but I was in my head 554 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 5: when it happened. 555 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, one hand, like you know, because when 556 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: I ran back there, I was I was going up 557 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 2: with two hands, but I realized I was running past 558 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 2: the ball, so I just kind of reached back with 559 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: one and you know, plucked it out there. 560 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 561 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: Last thing for you, I saw you, you know, entered 562 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: training camp that you had noticed a little bit where 563 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: the national media was putting you that you maybe saw 564 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,959 Speaker 1: some predictions out there where I think six and eleven 565 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 1: was one that you mentioned. I guess what, what's your 566 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: opinion on those predictions that have been out there that 567 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: the Raiders. You know, not a lot of people have 568 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: expect a lot out of the Raiders this year. 569 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why they don't have faith in 570 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 2: us when you know the season that we had last 571 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: year with the coaches switch middle of the season quarterba 572 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: I mean obvious obviously wasn't here, but you know, quarterback switches, 573 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 2: you know, throughout the season, and we have more wins 574 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 2: than six wins. So and I think this year we're 575 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: a better team. You know, we have a solid foundation. 576 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: So for them to say we're gonna win six games, 577 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 2: that's kind of like a slap in the face, you know, 578 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 2: and you know the team feels that, so we will 579 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: go out and show. 580 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: So that's something you guys talk about. Bongst yourself definitely. Okay. 581 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: Jack Jones, the cornerback for the Raiders, looking forward to 582 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: watching you this year. 583 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me. 584 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: All right, that was a lot of fun with Jack Jones. 585 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm easily swayed. I come down here and the defense 586 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,239 Speaker 1: is so dominant and I'm convinced in O'Connell is going 587 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: to be trash this year and that this defense is 588 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. Man, O'Connell just did not look comfortable 589 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: at all in this practice. But the playmakers are there 590 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: and Jack Jones and Max Crosby at the top of 591 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: the list. We're gonna wrap up this show down in Costa, 592 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: Mesa by going to the mail bag. You can ask 593 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: us questions at NFL Daily Podcast at gmail dot com. 594 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: I want to hit another mail bag early next week, 595 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: maybe later this week. NFL Daily Podcasts at gmail dot com. 596 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: And yeah, while we're here, go go to the YouTube 597 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: page subscribe, like help us out. I loved all the 598 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: encouraging emails that we were looking at between me and 599 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: Randy and yeah, Randy, we're now through five teams doing 600 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: a deep dive on I need that big board. 601 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: We've hit five out of the thirty two. 602 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: If we haven't hit you yet, we've hit Eagles, Raiders, Rams, Charges, Bears. 603 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: We are going to hit you at some point this season. 604 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: It's going to take a while, all right, Let's get 605 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: to the questions. Let's start with Eldon, who asks how 606 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: many starts for JJ McCarthy This year. I'm putting the 607 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: over under at fourteen. I don't think it's gonna be long. 608 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy at training camp getting positive notices. Sam Donald 609 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: is still Sam Donald. I would almost put it higher 610 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: if not for the injury risk for McCarthy, But I 611 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: don't think Donald's gonna last more than two or three weeks. 612 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: If I had to guess. Their schedule is pretty difficult 613 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: at the beginning. They would love Donald to do well, 614 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: but I think JJ McCarthy's really playing against himself at 615 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: practice and in the preseason, and so far, so good. 616 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: I think if he plays well, they're just not going 617 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: to wait around that long to get to him. Our 618 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: next question is from Oliver in the UK. He asks, 619 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: what is the best case scenario for the Colts this season? 620 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: What's their ceiling assuming Richardson stays healthy in plays to 621 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: what you believe his ceiling is this season? I mean 622 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: their ceilings high twelve wins, twelve and five, like three 623 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: seed in the AFC. Of those teams that you go 624 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: into the playoffs thinking like could the Colts really go 625 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl? And probably won't, but I've seen 626 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: lesser teams in terms of line play make it to 627 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and richardson ceiling Fantasy wise top five 628 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: and NFL wise. If he can hit enough big throws, 629 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: this guy is a great decision maker. He is tier 630 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: one as athletic, a runner and in terms of his 631 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: arm strength of anyone that's ever played in the NFL. 632 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: He's not going to be that accurate. But if he 633 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: can just make good decisions like he was making as 634 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: a rookie, stays healthy, he hits his ceiling. I like 635 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: the weapons around him. I love the offensive line, I 636 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: love the defensive line even more. To me, they have 637 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: as high a ceiling or higher than the Texans. I 638 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: do think those are two of the best teams in 639 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: the AFC, and the Colts should be a little disappointed 640 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: if they don't make the playoffs thanks to Oliver. 641 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 3: Let's go to Jack. 642 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: Jack was determined and we got a lot of these 643 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: emails determine, why do you got to be so determined 644 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: not to like this show? 645 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 5: Like? 646 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 3: I get it. 647 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 1: I felt the pain of around the NFL ending as 648 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: much more than anyone obviously, and I did have a 649 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: little bit of time to kind of grieve and get 650 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: used to it and understand life sometimes gives you things 651 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: you didn't expect, gives you things you didn't want, and 652 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: it's how you respond to that. But you don't need 653 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 1: to be rooting against this show and not wanting to 654 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: like this show. 655 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: Love this show. 656 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: Love the new show from Mark and Dan that's going 657 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: to be coming out Heed the Call. They announced that, 658 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: and I know that's going to be awesome. And I 659 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: mentioned that partly because Jack has a Heed the Call 660 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: tattoo like myself. 661 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: I love it. So I remember the words of Chris Wesley. 662 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 3: He told me that. 663 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: The first time he told me that was and I'm 664 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: gonna sound like this is a humble brag. Actually I 665 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: was in Hawaii and I was having a little bit 666 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: of a personal crisis of I can't do the job 667 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: that I had, which was in management anymore. 668 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 3: I just couldn't do it. 669 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: I had to be happier, more fulfilled, do something like 670 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: I ended up doing with around the NFL more full 671 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: time and with the network and now what we're doing 672 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: with NFL daily. And that was the first time Chris 673 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: gave me that advice. You know, he was technically someone 674 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: who was under me at work, but I always went 675 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: to him for advice and that was all about it's 676 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: a short life and you got to do what you 677 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: love and what matters to you. And I'm doing it now. 678 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: Even though it's not around the NFL, this podcast is 679 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: going to mean a lot to me, and I really 680 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: appreciate everyone who's along for the ride. He does ask 681 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: a football question. He says, I think Tony Pollard's a 682 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: brilliant example of a truly exposive, valuable second running back 683 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: who excelled in that role, but when given the RB 684 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: one role with no viable RB two struggled. So who 685 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: are your top five RB twos for twenty twenty four? 686 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: Five best RB twos? Well, immediately I think of Taj 687 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: Spears and Tony Pollard in Tennessee. Whoever you call the 688 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: RB two there, that's too. I love what I'm hearing 689 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: out of AJ Dillon that Matt Lafleur says, this is 690 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: the best AJ Dillon has ever looked. And so whether 691 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: it's him, whether it's Marshawn Lloyd in Green Bay, I 692 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: think those are two guys that are gonna be absolutely 693 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: electric as a backup running back. And then, man, I'm 694 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: going through the roll of decks right now, Justice Hill, 695 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: this might be a little high for Justice Hill, but 696 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: I think Justice Hill is going to have a great season. 697 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: And I'm gonna think of all the RB two's out 698 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: there that I should have picked for this in like 699 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: five minutes, and it's gonna drive me crazy. And to 700 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: defend Tony Pollard, I think he struggled because he was 701 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: coming off a broken leg in the season that they 702 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: were asking him to do more. 703 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 3: He was set up for failure there. 704 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: He just was not confident in that leg last year, 705 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be big for Tennessee if he is 706 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: this year. 707 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: We'll see our next. 708 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: Question from Andrew loved the show, wondering if this could 709 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: be a segment that would focus on the Panthers possibly 710 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: being good this season. I know it's unlikely, but could 711 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 1: be a to talk about teams that don't live in 712 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: the spotlight. 713 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: Now. 714 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't know about an entire segment, but I will 715 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: give you a mailbox answer. Defense is more variable every 716 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: season than offense. I do not like the personnel in Carolina, 717 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: but there's a reason why Carolina did not let a 718 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: Giro Evro, their coordinator, go to Los Angeles where they 719 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: wanted him to be their coordinators because he's one of 720 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: the best young defensive coordinators in the league. He has 721 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: a young group, and even if it's hard to see 722 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: the image, I've seen coaches make young teams like that 723 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: be average when they didn't have any right to be. 724 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: So you get the average defense there. Bryce Young and 725 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson, I think are going to be a really 726 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: good connection. I think they can improve quite a bit. 727 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: I think of Alex Smith's career arc when I think 728 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: of where Bryce Young is at right now. One of 729 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: the worst quarterbacks they've ever seen was Alex Smith as 730 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: a rookie. Second year gets a better coordinator. They improved 731 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: a seven and nine. He was around league average. To me, 732 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: that's the recipe for them being good. Mingo steps up 733 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: a little bit and that they're just watchable and that 734 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: you have a guy that can be a starting quarterback. 735 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: So not an entire segment, but I gave you like 736 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 3: a minute. Thank you, Andrew. 737 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: This one's also for me a different Andrew, a diehard 738 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: Dolphins fan that has been so accustomed to mediocrity, asks 739 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: you a bigger question. I wanted to ask me about 740 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: the Dalton Scale. What our entire teams this year that 741 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: lie on the Dalton line. So for new listeners, the 742 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: Dalton scale was Chris Westling's invention of how to measure 743 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: whether you have a franchise quarterback or not. If that 744 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: quarterback is better than Andy Dalton, you have a franchise quarterback. 745 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: If that quarterback is worse than Andy Dalton, you do 746 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: not have a franchise quarterback. 747 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: So I'm here. 748 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: You know, in Coasta, Mesa rather with the Vegas Raiders, 749 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: they do not have a quarterback that's even approaching Andy 750 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: Dalton back when he was with the Bengals. They are 751 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 1: below the Dalton line. To a tongue of Iiloa. He's 752 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: not as high above the Dalton scale line as Dolphins 753 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: fans think, but he is above entire teams. 754 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: Is funny. 755 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: I thought about this for a while. At first, my 756 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: thought was the Saints because they're so off the radar, 757 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: no one really knows what they're gonna do. Their entire 758 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: franchise is just can we keep our jobs for one 759 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: more year. They're just trying to get to eight wins, 760 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: nine wins like they had a year ago, so that 761 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,479 Speaker 1: everyone can stay employed. But I thought about their talents 762 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: not even as good as Andy Dalton, they're below the 763 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: Dalton scale to me of teams, and I think they'll 764 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: finish below that. And I came up with the perfect answer. 765 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: Come at me, Jags fans, it's the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now 766 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: you have a quarterback in theory that's like a top 767 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: ten quarterback, but it's more in theory. And Trevor doesn't 768 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: get me excited. Now he's definitely above the Dalton scale. 769 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: So that makes them a tricky pick here. But as 770 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: a team, I look at them and I just don't 771 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: know what to think. I think, yeah, they're good, they're fine. 772 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: Their coach is good, their defense should be okay with 773 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: Ryan Nielsen, like they'll be better. The weapons round, Lawrence's 774 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: pretty good, the offensive line, Anton Harrison, they got some questions, 775 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: but it's like it's okay. Like it's a lot of 776 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: okay and a quarterback that hasn't been enough better than okay. 777 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: So the Jags are my pick for the team on 778 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: the Dalton scale. And finally, last question, it's from Torque 779 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: who says he loves the chemistry with Claybahn and Jordan, 780 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: and yeah, I love it too. We're gonna build it 781 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: up together. We're gonna have the regulars in these couple 782 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: of weeks you might realize are different than the rest 783 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 1: of the season is going to be. I'm doing all 784 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: these training camp tours. A lot of the network people 785 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: like Steve Weiss and Colleen and Patrick are all over 786 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: the country, and so it's a little different than when 787 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna be in the studio almost every day. 788 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 3: But it's been fun going out to the teams. 789 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, Patrick is actually on tomorrow's show drafting some 790 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: fantasy players. I'm looking forward to that. Torque's question is 791 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: about the eighteen game schedule. What do you think of 792 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,959 Speaker 1: the timeline and steps getting to the eighteen game regular season. 793 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: I've seen thoughts out there, including two buys reducing the 794 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,400 Speaker 1: preseason even further. Yeah, you hit it. There's not even 795 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: any question preseason will go down to two games. They will, 796 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: I believe, add a week to the season, which now 797 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: gets us to the day after the super Bowl being 798 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: President's date, which is why I don't think they're going 799 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: to add another buy. If they did that, then they 800 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: would have to start a week earlier. I don't think 801 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: they would want to do that, and even though the 802 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: players I think would love that time off I don't 803 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: think that's going to happen. If the owners are actually 804 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: willing to give up some money and pay the players 805 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: a little higher percentage of total revenue. I think this 806 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: could happen before the twenty one p thirty one CBA 807 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: agreement is up, that they could go to the table, 808 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: and this could happen sooner than later because the players 809 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: seem open to it. I don't totally love it. I 810 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: think that's asking a lot for these players body, and 811 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: I think if you're going to do it, you should 812 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: add that extra buy even though that's going to give 813 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: us all an extra a week of work, which I 814 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: don't really want to do. And so that was from 815 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: Torque again. All the emails, all the support. You can 816 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: send the emails to the NFL Daily Podcast at gmail 817 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: dot com and that will wrap up today's day down 818 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: in Costa Mesa with the Raiders. Tell me what team 819 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: you want to hit next When we do some deep dives. 820 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: We don't want to don't want to do it too often, 821 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: but we'll do it every so often. And yeah, I 822 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,279 Speaker 1: mentioned Patrick Clayband, Marcus Grant, Mike Florio gonna be on 823 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: our next show. Drafting the first three rounds of a 824 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: fantasy draft. We're gonna have a lot of fun then 825 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: until then, see you next time.