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Speaker 1: Now on the open.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Draft Season, a proud part

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Speaker 2: of the New York Giants. Decode Risk, Unlock Opportunity, learnmoretmoviies

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Speaker 2: dot Com. Hello everybody, John Smoke batt only a cold.

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Speaker 2: I'll fight through it. Today, Tony Poloni we do most

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Speaker 2: of the talking.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Tony. We're gonna have Jim n he's

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Speaker 1: so psyched about that too. We're gonna have Jim Naggy.

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Speaker 2: From the Senior Bowl, the director of the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna join us in the second half of this program.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna do a ton of college football playoff

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Speaker 2: stuff today. That'll be next week's show right before the games.

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Speaker 2: But we are gonna talk about the conference championship games

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Speaker 2: this week. Tony Pauline from sports Keita, Tony, how are you, buddy.

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Speaker 3: I'm okay. It was an interesting weekend. Huh, some some upsets,

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Speaker 3: some surprises, and then, uh, you know you mentioned the

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Speaker 3: college football playoffs, so you had all the rankings there

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Speaker 3: and the pairings, which I'm sure a lot of people

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Speaker 3: are gonna debate up until the games are played starting

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Speaker 3: next Friday.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So let's talk about some of the conference title games.

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Speaker 2: Let's start in the Big twelve where Cam Scatibo dominated

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Speaker 2: from start to finish, and boy, he looks good as.

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Speaker 3: He has all season long. I mean he's had seven

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Speaker 3: games of one hundred and forty seven yards or more.

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Speaker 3: Transferred from Sacramento State. You look at his numbers this year,

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Speaker 3: you know over over eleven hundred yards rushing, thirty seven

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Speaker 3: receptions for five hundred and six yards. Came into the

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Speaker 3: season created as a priority free agent. Now you're looking

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Speaker 3: at Scattada Bowl, likely in that brayln Allen area area.

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Speaker 3: You know, that fourthnith round area reminds me a lot

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Speaker 3: of Brian Leonard for people who want to go back

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Speaker 3: a little ways. Remember Brian Leonard out of Rutgers, the

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Speaker 3: bigger ball carrier who used to dole out punishment. And

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Speaker 3: that's what Scatabo does. I mean he seems to enjoy

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Speaker 3: punishing the opponents. He runs into the head first, picks

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Speaker 3: up a lot of yards off finitial contact. But he's

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Speaker 3: more than a downhill run. He's got some quickness to

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Speaker 3: his game. He shows great vision. He has the ability

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Speaker 3: to get to the outside. It's impossible for one person

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Speaker 3: to bring him down. That's what he likes. He's a

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Speaker 3: fun guy to watch, but he's also turned himself, I

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Speaker 3: believe into a legitimate middle round pick. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I agree.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what his forty time is going to be.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's the one weakness right what his

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Speaker 2: He looks like he's going to be a very effective back.

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Speaker 2: Wholls from that game jumped down.

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Speaker 3: And that's why I say, Braylan Allen. You remember Braylan Allen.

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Speaker 3: His big issue was speed and he never ran for scouts.

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Speaker 3: And look how well he's doing, you know, albeit with

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Speaker 3: the New York Jets. You know, more than just a

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Speaker 3: road grader. A guy that's been able to create yardage

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Speaker 3: and really do a variety of things. You gotta like.

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Speaker 3: Arizona States right tackle Max iron Anchor. He's a guy

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Speaker 3: who came into the season with priority free agent grades.

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Speaker 3: He's now being granted as early as the fourth He's

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Speaker 3: a big, thick right tackle. He goes six foot six,

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Speaker 3: three hundred and twenty pounds, but he's not an immobile

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman. He gets out to the second level. He's

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Speaker 3: able to annihilate opponents. He's got that big, thick lower

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman. He's played well all season long. Better run

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Speaker 3: I haven't seen their names pop up yet, but I

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Speaker 3: were just focused on that second round because Arizona State

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Speaker 3: So they're gonna be playing the week after Christmas.

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Speaker 2: All right, Let's go over to the SEC title game here,

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Speaker 2: Texas and Georgia. Obviously a very tight game, and still

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Speaker 2: neither quarterback Tony and Corson Beck got hurt in the game.

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Speaker 1: Quinn yours had some picks. Neither guy. I don't think

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Speaker 3: Beck was not playing all that well before before he

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Speaker 3: deservedly so, but I mean quinn Ewers has not played

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Speaker 3: next quote unquote franchise quarterback. Have not seen that from him.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't show much progression. He's making the same mistakes

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be around two, not in round one.

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Speaker 2: Well, do you think there's a chance that he might

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Speaker 2: go transfer Portal Tony and try to get better somewhere else.

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Speaker 3: I think he's gonna I think he's gonna enter the drift.

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Speaker 3: I think that he's probably had it with college football.

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Speaker 3: I think there's probably a less less than one percent

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the Texas offensive line in

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, last week we spoke about Cameron Williams.

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Speaker 3: I know people love his size, he's big, he can

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Speaker 3: the most penalized offensive lineman in the nation. If not

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Speaker 3: if he's not the most penalized offensive nation offensive lineman nation,

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Speaker 3: you can see why because there's a lot of immobility

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Speaker 3: People love his size, but you know, as a Giants

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Speaker 3: found out with Evan Neil, big huge, three three hundred

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Speaker 3: well to the next level. Williams is good. He's a

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Speaker 3: prototypical right tackle, but there are a lot of red

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Speaker 3: now he's got upside, but he needs a lot a

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Speaker 3: lot of polish. Just did not think it was a

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts on the Big Ten Championship game between Penn

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Speaker 3: Penn State kept it close for the for the most part.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go the opposite direction again. We spoke last

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Speaker 3: in the top one hundred, and I watched Connorley a

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Speaker 3: The guy is incredibly athletic, he's incredibly agile. Mobile needs

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Speaker 3: the arm length is. But the more I watch Connolly,

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Speaker 3: the more I was basically affirmed in my belief that

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Speaker 1: Question about it.

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Speaker 2: You want to talk about and our an Oregon wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: Not the one we've talked a lot about this year.

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Speaker 1: He's just not he's really small.

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Speaker 3: he's a good receiver. You know, Xavier Worthy last year

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Speaker 3: look at tes Johnson, he's not as fast as zvi're Worthy,

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Speaker 3: but he's probably a more accomplished receiver at this point

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Speaker 3: in time. He had this year seventy eight receptions for

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Speaker 3: eighty six receptions for eleven hundred and eighty two yards.

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Speaker 3: The prior two years when he played Attroit as a

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Speaker 3: So the production is there. You know, he's a real

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Speaker 3: good receiver. He's just not the biggest guy in the world.

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Speaker 3: Came into the season with late round grades, but I

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Speaker 3: think Tesz Johnson's absolutely gonna move into the middle rounds.

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Speaker 3: we have seen really for the past two years at

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Speaker 1: And Evan Stewart did not play in that game, correct,

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Speaker 1: I did not see him.

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Speaker 3: So I'll take your word on it. I mean I

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Speaker 3: was watching connor Ley and then Tess Johnson jumped off

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Speaker 3: the film. Jumped off the film, Obby, Yeah, I did.

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Speaker 2: He did not show open the box score, and I

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Speaker 2: guessing there was some type of injury there. That's something

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Speaker 2: we can check out and uh and and and confirm

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Speaker 2: as we move forward here. Terrence Ferguson, Tony, tell me

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Speaker 3: Yeah, A tight end. Yeah, I mean, he's a complete

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Speaker 1: What else in the weekend jumped out at you, Tony.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was some good games the sun Belt Marshall,

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Speaker 2: By the way, I checked, Evan Stewart did play fifty

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Speaker 1: He just did not have a catch in the game, Tony.

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Speaker 3: And we've talked about that. I mean, we talked about

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Speaker 2: All right, Tony, it is a quiet weekend in college football.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Veterans ball South Alabama. The Veterans Bawl, which

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Speaker 3: State linebacker Aaron Smith. We're going to see him at

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Speaker 2: And now we're joined by Jim Naggy, executive director of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, John, Tony, good to see you guys again.

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Speaker 1: All right, So tell us where are you in terms

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Speaker 2: Do you have a large less list of guys that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're in the thick of it right now. It's

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Speaker 4: we're coming on to about one hundred accepted invites. Not

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Speaker 3: You kind of went into the question that I was

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Speaker 3: Are you allowed to do that? And do you do that?

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Speaker 4: I like to stay away from that, Tony. That's sensitive.

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Speaker 4: that happen to me back in high school, and that's

431
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 4: that was a tough looking injury. So we'll see on

432
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 4: that one. And then obviously, if you know, we can't

433
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 4: invite Quinn yet. He's he's a red shirt junior, so

434
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 4: that you know, we sent I think we sent five

435
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,440
Speaker 4: or six invites to Texas. I believe Start gave those

436
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 4: out yesterday, so they haven't even had those in hand yet,

437
00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 4: and so we can't do that. We can't pull the

438
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,920
Speaker 4: trigger on Quinn. So if he comes out, and I think,

439
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 4: you know, I think there's a strong possibility he'll come out.

440
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 4: If he does, obviously we'd love to have him here

441
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,399
Speaker 4: and mobile, like I can throw it with anybody, and

442
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 4: he's he's gonna interview great. He's got a really good

443
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 4: football mind, so we'd love to have him. If he

444
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,879
Speaker 4: comes out, I'll just leave it at that.

445
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, just in generally, in terms of the quarterbacks, I

446
00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 2: think I saw two officially accepted invice gim. If I'm

447
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 2: not mistaken, I might have miscounted when I was going

448
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,200
Speaker 2: through the list. Is that a position where you know

449
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 2: there's really a finite number of snaps to go around

450
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,680
Speaker 2: with this progress, this process can get a little tricky

451
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:25,920
Speaker 2: for you.

452
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 4: We've got Will Howard, We've got Tyler Shuck. I'm trying

453
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 4: to think Riley Leonard. So we're we're we're getting and

454
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 4: then we've got a couple more reason invited in another

455
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 4: one yesterday and I spoke to spoke to the player

456
00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 4: on the phone. He was really excited about it, So,

457
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 4: uh feel good about where that position's at. There there's

458
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 4: another one that didn't invite out to where uh a

459
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 4: player might be going back to school. He's the latest

460
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 4: thing we've heard, so you know. And then the wild

461
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 4: card in the whole thing is if if Druel Air

462
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 4: comes out and he's making a nice run here, uh

463
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 4: in his in this this season at Penn State, he's

464
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 4: winning some big game to know he's got a college

465
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 4: football playoff ahead of him. So yeah, it's kind of

466
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 4: a fluid deal right now. We like the guys we've

467
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 4: got locked in. We like the guys and we've had

468
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 4: that we've invited. But I you know, I think whether

469
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 4: it's six guys on the roster or eight guys on

470
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 4: the roster, there's gonna be plenty of steps to go around.

471
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 4: I feel good either way.

472
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 2: How important is this pre draft process going to be

473
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: this year, Jim, and not just the quarterbacks for everybody.

474
00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: You know, Tony and I've been reviewing this class over

475
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: the course of the last three or four months, and

476
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 2: there is no consistency talking to one person to another

477
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 2: as to how they have this class stacked up here.

478
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 2: I feel like in a class like this, things like

479
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: the All Star Games, the Senior Bowl, they're going to

480
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: be super important as teams try to sort through how

481
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 2: they're going to stack up their boards, especially in a

482
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 2: season like this.

483
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Yeah, that's why. I mean, I've said it, not

484
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 4: trying to put the cart before the horse or whatever

485
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 4: that old phrase is. But no, I think this should

486
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 4: be our best year. You know, we had we had

487
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 4: ten first round picks last year. All ten of them

488
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 4: were seniors. You know, the league is anounce the junior

489
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 4: rule the first week in November. I felt like that

490
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 4: was a little late in terms of like gaining traction

491
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 4: with the underclassmen. We certainly didn't get a lot of

492
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 4: buy in from that junior class. I think we had

493
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 4: like sixteen guys, you know, I think with a full

494
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,880
Speaker 4: year to kind of, you know, get the information out

495
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 4: to these juniors and then and then I think, you know,

496
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,040
Speaker 4: you know, having conversations with agents. There was a number

497
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 4: of juniors last year that opted not to come to

498
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 4: the game, but they got passed up by some seniors

499
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 4: that played in the game. So again, I think we

500
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,360
Speaker 4: should have our best year, and I think the uncertain

501
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 4: nature of the first round should help us. You know,

502
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 4: you talk to teams right now. I mean some teams

503
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: have eight, nine, ten first round grades. In an average

504
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 4: year that numbers in the teens. In a good year,

505
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 4: that number is probably in the load of mid twenties,

506
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 4: you know, twenty two to twenty three first round grades.

507
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 4: So in a year like that, it's wide open. So

508
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 4: that's my conversation we're having with these agents every day,

509
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 4: Like this thing's wide open. Man, you can't feel good

510
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 4: about your guy being locked in being a first round

511
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 4: draft pick right now. I mean, there's this really small

512
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 4: handful of guys that I that I like in that

513
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 4: you know, top ten area are just locks. So we'll see,

514
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 4: we'll see how it all plays out. But I'm excited

515
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 4: about the number of juniors we have on board right

516
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 4: now that we haven't announced. I think when we do

517
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 4: announce those names, the draft community is going to be

518
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 4: really fired up to see some of these guys in Mobile.

519
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 4: So we're just kind of waiting on that date from

520
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 4: the league office when we can release those names.

521
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 2: Last one for me, and then I let Tony run

522
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: through with the players he wants to ask you about, Jim,

523
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 2: want to ask you about the defensive line group. To me,

524
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 2: that's one of the big magnifying glasses we're gonna have

525
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: during the week there. You already have some really good

526
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 2: guys that have committed Landon Jackson, just High, Stuart Jordan Birch,

527
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: Kyle Kinard, Chamar Turner, some really good players. I feel

528
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 2: like that's gonna be one of the real positions of

529
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: strength when we get down at the Mobile end of January.

530
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, wait till we announced some of these juniors. Yeah,

531
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 4: it's good it is. This is the year. Everyone always

532
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 4: asks one of the positions of strength in this year's draft,

533
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 4: and I'd say running back. The defensive line, I mean

534
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 4: tight ends pretty good. I mean the good players at

535
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: every position, right, But the d line group is stacked,

536
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 4: whereas last year the offensive line was really stacked. I

537
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 4: think we had five of our first rounders or offensive lineman.

538
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 4: I think is that number? And again I think that

539
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 4: number is gonna flip. I think right now committed, we've

540
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 4: got seven or eight first round defensive linemen potential are

541
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 4: likely first rounders in that group. So one on ones

542
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 4: are always kind of the main event down here in

543
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 4: the trenches, and there should be some really good battles

544
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 4: this year.

545
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: I want to ask you just overall. I'm on the

546
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: website last night looking at the accepted invites, and what

547
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 3: really caught my eye is Oregon already has five players

548
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: that have committed to playing in the Senior Ball and

549
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: Senior Bowl. Practices start what a week and a half

550
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 3: after the National championship game is to be played, and

551
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 3: Oregon is expected to get to that national championship game.

552
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 3: They're undefeated. I mean, what does that say about the

553
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 3: culture of the University of Oregon, that you've already got

554
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: five guys committed to play in your game, which is

555
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: less than ten days after the national championship game.

556
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it says a lot about what Dan's built.

557
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 4: I think it says a lot about the Senior Bowl

558
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 4: and what what players feel like they can get out

559
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 4: of this week. But no, we're you know I I

560
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 4: I talked to Dan last week about a number of

561
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 4: his guys and again, this this new college football playoff format,

562
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 4: some of these players are a little apprehensive, you know,

563
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 4: because they don't want to commit and then have to

564
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 4: back out. And I told him, you know what, that's

565
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 4: my problem. Let me deal with that. You know, if

566
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 4: you if you make a deep run into the playoffs

567
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 4: and your guys are beat up physically and they don't

568
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 4: feel like they can get to mobile, that that's on me.

569
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 4: That's my job to figure that out. So no, there,

570
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 4: we send a bunch of invites out there to Eugene.

571
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think there's any outstanding left. I don't.

572
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 4: I don't believe. So there's a couple more underclassmen that

573
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: if they come out, will be in the mix, and

574
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 4: even a couple more seniors that if we if we

575
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 4: don't get a couple of these you know, high end

576
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 4: juniors that will circle back on, that's a loaded that's

577
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 4: a loaded roster. I mean to me, you know them

578
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 4: in Ohio state. You know, in terms of NFL prospects,

579
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 4: probably of the two most between those two programs. So

580
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 4: again it you know it. And when people are on

581
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 4: the fence and I'm talking agents about, you know, the

582
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 4: short timetable this year, I keep going back to twenty

583
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 4: nineteen with that LSU Clemson game and national championship was

584
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 4: on Monday. The players are reported and mobile on Sunday,

585
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 4: so the same exact timetable. And we had eight players

586
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 4: between those two schools coming to Mobile and play, and

587
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 4: a number of them were top hundred picks, you know,

588
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 4: Damian Lewis, Lloyd Cushionberry. Off the top of my head,

589
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a number of those guys came here.

590
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 4: I almost see it as a benefit. Like again, if

591
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 4: a guy's beat up physically, that's one thing. But if

592
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 4: they're not and they feel okay, I mean they haven't

593
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 4: taken the pads off, they're still in football mode. You

594
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: know a lot of these guys just took the pads

595
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 4: off and they won't put them back on until Senior

596
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 4: Bowl week, so you know there won't be any rust.

597
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 4: They won't be in shorts and T shirts for two months,

598
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: so it actually might work in their favor.

599
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: Could I ask you about a bunch of players, you know,

600
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: give me your thoughts on. Start off with a small

601
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 3: school guy from the state Alabama. I was glad to

602
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 3: see him get the invite and accept the Carson Vincent,

603
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: the left tackle from Alabama them tall guy, love is fundamentals,

604
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: love the mechanics. Don't know that he's going to be

605
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: a left tackle in the NFL. But give us a

606
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 3: little breakdown on Vincent.

607
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, excited to get Carson and it was fun to

608
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 4: go up there. We did a little in person invite

609
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 4: with John Stalworth, greatest player in Alabama and m history

610
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl, one of our greatest players in our game's history.

611
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 4: So that was fun. Yeah, you nailed it. I mean

612
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 4: he's a good athlete, he's got good feed, he's really long,

613
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 4: he's got a great temperament. I mean they came down

614
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 4: here and played in a classic against Georgia or Jackson State,

615
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 4: and I mean he was he was. I thought he

616
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 4: was going to get flagged about every other snap. I mean,

617
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 4: he's just he plays beyond the whistle, which is cool

618
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 4: to see. I think you can rain that back. I

619
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: think it's hard to coach that into a guy. You

620
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: can certainly try to rain that guy in, but there's

621
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 4: a lot to like. And then when you talk to

622
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 4: the people at the school, he's an A plus character guy.

623
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: This is a kid that doesn't have a car, has

624
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: never been late for anything, never misses anything, never has

625
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 4: an excuse for anything. So it's really kind of refreshing

626
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 4: in the world we're living in now. If guys driving

627
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 4: Maseratis Lamborghini's around campus, this guy doesn't even know a car.

628
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 4: So they have five point thirty in the morning practices

629
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 4: at at Alabama A and M. And he was never

630
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 4: late for anything. And and so you know, I got

631
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: I got calls from a number of guys in the

632
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 4: NFL leaving that early morning practice in Huntsfield, making the

633
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: drive to tusk Loosa, and they said, Jimnas, you got

634
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 4: to bring this kid like he deserves it. So I'm

635
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 4: excited for Carson. I think he's gonna come down here

636
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 4: and compete his tail off and we'll see where it goes.

637
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 4: But like I told him when I went up there,

638
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: like he's gonna be able to there's nobody down here

639
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 4: he can't block. Yeah, I do not. There are certain players,

640
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 4: certain small school guys that we like as late round

641
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 4: players that I just feel like if we bring him,

642
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 4: they won't show well and it might hurt him. Carson

643
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 4: Vincent doesn't fall in that category for me.

644
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: Not a small school guy from Central Arkift. So David

645
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: Walker terrific pass rush on a small school level linebacker size.

646
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: Tell us about him what he's going to have to

647
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: show with during Senior Bowl week. Yeah, cool track record

648
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: of a D two guy that the jump to FCS.

649
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: You love seeing that.

650
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 4: And then he, you know, kind of spurned offers to

651
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: make the jump to FBS because he wanted to stay

652
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 4: loyal to the Central Arkansas guys and Coach Brown and

653
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 4: that staff. So what I would say about him, he's

654
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 4: a really accomplished past rusher. I mean you can see it, Tony.

655
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 4: I mean, the guy knows how to rush, he's got

656
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 4: really good instincts, he's got power, he's slippery. I mean,

657
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 4: he can beat you in a lot of different ways.

658
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: I guess it's the best way of saying it. He's

659
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: got a lot of different pitches, so I think he's

660
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 4: gonna show really well. It's gonna be He knows it's

661
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 4: gonna be a big week for him. As you mentioned,

662
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 4: he's kind of tween irish size wise, but there's a

663
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 4: lot of guys his size that are really good pass

664
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 4: rushers in the National Football League. So excited to see

665
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: what he can do here.

666
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: Talk about two quarterbacks not named cam Ward First, tylst

667
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 3: Show of Louisville. I mean, interesting starter. I believe he's

668
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 3: a seventh year senior. Started his career at Oregon. Everyone

669
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 3: thought that this is going to be the natural replacement

670
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: for Justin Herbert. Had a great, terrific season at Oregon.

671
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: Transfers to Texas A and m Texas Tech. I apologize

672
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 3: a lot of injuries, a lot of inconsistency. Goes to

673
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: Louisville this year and seem to get his game back

674
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: on track. What's the thought process in having Show go

675
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 3: to the senior ball.

676
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, we had those conversations with the teams on our calls.

677
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 4: I was worried about the age and the durability and

678
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: on those calls. It was pretty clear the NFL was

679
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: not very concerned about those things. You know, if you

680
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: can get two contracts out of a quarterback, that's that's

681
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 4: a successful draft pick, right, and that's you know, in

682
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 4: eight years. I mean, these guys are playing so late.

683
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: If they're really good enough, they're going to play into

684
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: their late thirties anyway. So the age thing at quarterback

685
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: really isn't a concern. The injury stuff is, like I

686
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 4: talked to Tyler about, it's a couple of collar bones,

687
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: a broken leg. It wasn't anything major joint stuff. So

688
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 4: again that stuff, and he can throw it as good

689
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 4: as anybody in this class. I'll put this dude's armtown

690
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 4: up against anybody. I just remember the first time I

691
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 4: met him was at the Manning camp. This was probably

692
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 4: about three or four years ago. Uh, And I showed

693
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 4: up and they'd already had one throwing session the day before,

694
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 4: and I ran into my friend David Morris, who runs

695
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 4: the camp there for the Manning family. And you know,

696
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 4: he's a personal QB coach. He's gonna be working with

697
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 4: Riley Leonard's and I think he's working with Tyler in

698
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 4: the cycle. And I said you know who impressed you

699
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 4: Day one in the first name out of his mouth

700
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: was Tyler Shock, so he can he can rip it.

701
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: I mean, you're gonna love watching him down here. For

702
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: those people that haven't seen him throw live, they're in

703
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: for a treat. This guy's got as much arm telling

704
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: as anyone.

705
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: Riley Leonard notes you game by way of Duke. We

706
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 3: kind of got on his case early in the season

707
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 3: because he was more of a running quarterback, more of

708
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: an athlete trying to play the quarterback position. But it

709
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 3: seems the last month and a half he's really starting

710
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: to develop as a passer. I don't know if you

711
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: see that or even agree with it.

712
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: No, I totally agree with that. I think I think

713
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: you hit the nail on the head. I mean I

714
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 4: think I think what happened was you know, I think

715
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: everyone that follows it right I knows. Riley had that

716
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 4: ankle injury last year and it was really a nagging deal.

717
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 4: He was down here training in the off season. In

718
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: the spring, I went and song throw and he was

719
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 4: just it was a it was a difficult rehab and

720
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 4: so he didn't get a lot of working in the

721
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 4: off season. Moving moving to Notre Dame. So I feel

722
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: like at the beginning of the year that staff was

723
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: trying to learn him, he was trying to learn the

724
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 4: guys around him, So it was just a little bit

725
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: of a slow process. But like you said, he's really

726
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 4: catching fire. If you talk to people in the league

727
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 4: right now, he's probably the biggest riser you know in

728
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 4: the second half of the season. I think, you know,

729
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: to start the year, a lot of teams had Riley

730
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: in the fourth and fifth round. I'm getting a lot

731
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 4: of Day two love back right now on on Riley

732
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 4: Leonard because you know, in terms of the size, the athlete,

733
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 4: the character which is off the charts. I'm telling you, like,

734
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 4: this is as good a kid as you'll ever come across.

735
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 4: The leadership teams feel better about like those things with

736
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 4: Riley than they do about some of the guys being

737
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: talked about above Ryley. So I'll be I'll be really

738
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: excited to see how it was pro cesscoes. He's got

739
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 4: some really big stage opportunities here in the college football Playoff.

740
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 4: I hope he plays well. This is a guy I'm

741
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 4: just a fan of. I've been watching him since he

742
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: played high school ball down here. Football and basketball. He's

743
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: a great kid man, so I'm excited to see where

744
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 4: it's going for him. But the trajectory is certainly.

745
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 3: Up the defensive lineman, who I don't think fits that mall.

746
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 3: But a guy who's just, in my opinion, is woefully underrated,

747
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 3: Ty Robinson of Nebraska. You're watching, They line him up

748
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: on the inside, they clem and nose tackle, they line

749
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,280
Speaker 3: him up on the edge, and the guy always makes plays.

750
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I was at the Ohio State game and

751
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: he just ate up the Ohio State offensive line. You know,

752
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 3: what you project for him? Is he a defensive tackle?

753
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 3: Is he a defensive end? Is he just the guy

754
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 3: that they're going to move around all over the field?

755
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 3: And what's the draft projection right now? Because no one

756
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: talks about this guy, but whenever you watch Nebraska, number

757
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 3: nine is always making plays.

758
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 4: Tony, you need to come work on our staff next year.

759
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 4: He's one of our He's one of our favorite guys

760
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: in the in the in the office. He has been

761
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: for a couple of years now. You know, Scott mccluan,

762
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 4: the former GM, was on our staff last year. You know,

763
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 4: kind of more of a consultant role this year, but

764
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 4: this is one of Scott's favorite guys last year. Yeah,

765
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 4: and uh yeah, like you said, you turn on the

766
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 4: tape and and he just wrecked shopped again do I

767
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: said to your latter point, I do think he's a

768
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: guy you just move around. I think he's got a

769
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 4: ton of versatility. If you don't plan on moving around,

770
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 4: I think you're doing him in disservice. I hope he

771
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 4: goes to a place that is open minded and creative

772
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 4: with with how you can use the guy, because I

773
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: think he can be disruptive from a lot of different

774
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 4: alignments and a lot of different fronts. But he plays

775
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 4: his tail off. We love what he's going to bring

776
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: to practice, kind of like what Braydon Fist brought to

777
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 4: practice last year. I kind of expect the same type

778
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 4: of energy and tenacity out of of Ty Robinson. So

779
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 4: and then the cool part was connected with Matt rule

780
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 4: about him, and then here and Matt talk about him.

781
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah we're fired up. I mean, I don't know. I

782
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 4: don't see a lot of his stuff on you know,

783
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 4: mock Draft and and all that stuff. Either. I don't

784
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: think the guy gets out of the day two. I

785
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: really don't. I mean, I don't. I don't see that happen.

786
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: Two uh, non power five defensive backs Caleb Ransaw, who

787
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: was well liked in the scouting community to Lane by

788
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 3: way of try, physical instinctive, always getting get some involved

789
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: in the action. But what is he? Is he a safety?

790
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 3: Is he a cornerback? Is he a nickelback? What do you?

791
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: What do you?

792
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: What is your projection for ras Now?

793
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's all that's He's all that he is. He's

794
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 4: he's kind of that Swiss army knife. We had a

795
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 4: guy in the game a few years ago, Shamari Connor,

796
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 4: who's playing really good ball right now for the Kansas

797
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: City Chiefs, And I think they're similar in that sense.

798
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,280
Speaker 4: But but at the bottom line, they're both football players.

799
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 4: I mean Ransaw. John summer All, the head coach at

800
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 4: two lane's a good friend. I kind of thought he

801
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 4: was giving me a sales pitch over the summer and

802
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 4: we talked about Caleb, and then I watched the tape.

803
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: I'm like, no, he wasn't selling me on him. He's

804
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 4: he's a really good player. So yeah, I think he

805
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 4: can play nickel because he's a really good tackler. He's

806
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 4: good run sup for it the same reason he can

807
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 4: go back and play safety. He's at the end of

808
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 4: the day, he's just a football player. Teams that teams

809
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 4: that value I don't know how Caleb's gonna do with

810
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: the combine and all that stuff, I don't know, but

811
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 4: teams that value football players that are are really gonna

812
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 4: like this guy. So again, he's one of those guys.

813
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 4: When we had the announcement that he was coming to

814
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 4: the game, he was one of those players that my

815
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 4: phone lit up from a number of scouts like excited,

816
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 4: they're gonna see him here.

817
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, last guy from me kind of off the

818
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: radar before the season started up and stout of Western Kentucky.

819
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: Give us a little breakdown on him.

820
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 4: Love this guy, man, love this guy. He's uh, he's

821
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 4: only five to eight, so he's he's little. And I

822
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 4: was raised in the NFL. It's a big man's game,

823
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 4: and you know, worked in programs that really valued size

824
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 4: at every position and really went away from smaller guys.

825
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 4: But man, this guy is different. H his urgency, his

826
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 4: play style. He certainly doesn't play small. I mean, if

827
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: you go back, they played him mostly in the slot

828
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: this year. They blitzed him a ton. He's really fun

829
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 4: to watch that way. And you go back to last year,

830
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: they played him outside and put him on Marvin Harrison Junior,

831
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 4: and this dude competed his butt off. He doesn't play small.

832
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 4: Even even when the balls in the air, this guy

833
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 4: goes up and gets it. Love his tenacity. He's just

834
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 4: he's just a I mean, following up on Ramstaw, I mean,

835
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 4: they're they're a little different, but they they played with

836
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 4: the same urgency. So he's he's he's really he's really

837
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 4: a fun guy to watch. I think he's gonna have

838
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 4: a really good week down here. Another kind of under

839
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 4: the radar guy. He's just too good of a player

840
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 4: not to invite here. He deserves it. I mean, the

841
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 4: way he the way he plays the game is how

842
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 4: every coach, I mean, coaches are gonna fall in love

843
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 4: with this guy. That the guy that I kind of

844
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: equated to that I've scouted in the past, and uh,

845
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: he didn't fit for us in Seattle, and I kind

846
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 4: of went went to bat for the guy. We had

847
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 4: kind of a designation on our grading scale for guys

848
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 4: that were good football players that didn't fit what we

849
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: wanted in Seattle was LaMarcus Joiner and uh when he

850
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 4: was at Florida State and that was my exception guy.

851
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 4: It was one of the only guys in my five

852
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: years I really tried to battle for, you know, didn't

853
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 4: fit the size parameters, but just loved the versatility that

854
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 4: could play free safety, could play Nico, could play outside

855
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 4: and to me, Upton Stout's kind of that guy.

856
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: All right, final one. I'm a little disappointed Tony to

857
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: ask about this guy, Jim.

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00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 2: I think one of your biggest invitees, Trevor skogerbel big

859
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: get for you, guys.

860
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:19,319
Speaker 3: Man.

861
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Yeah, we're fired up man, getting Trevor out here

862
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 2: cal equipment guy.

863
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: That was It was pretty cool man, obviously, you know,

864
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 4: you know if people that weren't familiar, that video went

865
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 4: viral and everything. And the guy gets up off the bench,

866
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 4: some idiot tries to steal a cow helmet. He runs

867
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 4: him down and throws him down. It's cool to find

868
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 4: out the kid was a wrestler in high school. You

869
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 4: saw it. He kind of suplexed the guy and slammed him.

870
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 4: But honestly, like, yeah, there was a little like social

871
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 4: media play there. We got a lot of traction on it.

872
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 4: It was cool to see. I just love the traction

873
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 4: part of it because it shows enough people know what

874
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 4: the heck the Senior Bowl is. You know, we got

875
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 4: like a couple of million views on it, and I

876
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 4: think a couple of years ago we might not have

877
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 4: had a couple of MILLI mused, because people wouldn't know

878
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: about the Senior Bowl. But no, we've connected whichever. We're

879
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 4: gonna get him out here. The two guys that run

880
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 4: the equipment thing for us now now that we don't

881
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 4: have the NFL teams are part of our football operations.

882
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 4: We've got Great Stringfellow, longtime LSU equipment guy, and John Mishad,

883
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: long time Georgia equipment guy, to kind of you know

884
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 4: icons in the space. They're excited to work with this guy.

885
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 4: And I just what I loved about it. Man, he

886
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 4: took pride in his job, and we I want people

887
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: around this game that are passionate about what their role

888
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 4: is and uh and that kid showed it. It was cool.

889
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 4: I want to, you know, kind of want to give

890
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 4: him a reward.

891
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 3: And by the way I do it, it's funny because

892
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 3: I don't spend that much on social media. I did

893
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 3: see your tweet on that, and I commented on how

894
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 3: great the backside pursuit was in front of that kid

895
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 3: from the from whatever we stand on to go get

896
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 3: the equipment.

897
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, Jim, last one from me, and I was

898
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: gonna wrap things up, but you just popped them through

899
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: my head when you mentioned the NFL. How's the coaching

900
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: deal working this year with you guys, It's gonna be

901
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: the same situation as last year with how the coaches

902
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: are set up and when do those decisions start getting made.

903
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, they've done away with the two full staffs for

904
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: in the All Stars space, so they're going to this

905
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 4: more of this developmental coach up format, which is great.

906
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: You know.

907
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: I mean the old selling point that you were around

908
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 4: two full staffs, I mean, I thought was a great thing.

909
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 4: We had that for seventy three years. I wasn't happy

910
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 4: when when the league changed that up, to be quite honest.

911
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 4: But you know what now, the benefit is our players

912
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: were had access to eighteen different teams last year behind

913
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 4: the scenes. So you know, you've got eighteen different teams

914
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 4: represented these all these meeting rooms and it you know,

915
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 4: three meals to day and out on the practice field.

916
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 4: So that's that's really a benefit to these guys. So

917
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 4: that's again the timetable with the CFP is pretty tight.

918
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 4: And now the timing of you know, having an eighteen week,

919
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 4: seventeen game schedule pushes the playoffs back, so we're going

920
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: to have about a two week to ten day turnaround

921
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 4: time between us getting the stabs announced and those guys

922
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 4: having put you know, playbooks together and pulling this whole

923
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 4: thing together. So it's very short, but man, it's really

924
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 4: a great week. One of the coolest parts of Senior

925
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 4: Bowl Week for me now is kind of we have

926
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: a dinner every Saturday night before Senia Bowl Week starts

927
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: for the coaching staff and to see that group come

928
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 4: together throughout the week is really awesome. It's usually like

929
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 4: with this format, it's a lot of younger coaches and

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00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 4: you know, we had Shay out here last year from

931
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: the Giants, and again, these are a lot of young

932
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 4: coaches that have only worked with one team, so they

933
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 4: don't have a large network of people across the league.

934
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 4: This isn't like scouts that are on the road and

935
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 4: seeing people from other teams. They're in their buildings every

936
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 4: day and that's all they're exposed to so they leave

937
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 4: Mobile with all these new friendships and connections that they

938
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: never had, which to me, that's all the feedback I get.

939
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 4: They love the week, they love the visibility, they love

940
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 4: the being around the players, but just the relationships they

941
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: get out of coming to Mobile for that week is

942
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 4: a huge benefit to them, so I see it as

943
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 4: a positive.

944
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you Mike Harris out there too, who was doing

945
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: special teams for you guys. A lot of fun.

946
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 4: Jim.

947
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Speaker 1: We can't wait to catch up with you again right

948
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: before the Senior Bowl starts.

949
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 2: Can't wait to get down there and watch all the

950
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 2: great players you'll have set up that amobile.

951
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the time and God bless you.

952
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 2: Next month is gonna be I'm sure a lot of work,

953
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 2: but it's gonna pay off.

954
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: Thanks so much of the time.

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00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun.

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00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: Guys.

957
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 4: No if I don't see you half the holidays, and

958
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 4: we'll talk closer to the game. Thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 1: Executive director of the Senior Bowl Draft Seasons presented by Moody's.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Everybody