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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Israel.

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Speaker 1: Goody eras in studio with me. Taylor is in the

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Speaker 1: VIP room. Mikey A on the zoom is here?

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Speaker 3: Still there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Is?

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Speaker 1: He's laughing already? Hold on, Let me get started to

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Speaker 1: ask him a question. Just be prepared, all right, Dan,

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Speaker 1: be prepared. We're coming back to you in a second.

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Speaker 1: Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. That's eight seven

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Speaker 1: seven ninety nine on Fox. We will discuss a little

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Speaker 1: bit more about Bill Belichick not making it to the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: Where's the outrage on Eli Manning?

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Speaker 3: Huh?

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Speaker 1: I he seriously, Jimmy Johnson was so outraged yesterday that

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Speaker 1: Belichick didn't get into the Hall of Fame. Jimmy Johnson

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Speaker 1: decided just to call executive producers of radio shows and say,

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Speaker 1: let me on, I am ready to go scorched earth

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Speaker 1: on the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: You must have been so mad because calling Jimmy Johnson

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Speaker 3: is one of the great fears of your career, and

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Speaker 3: here he was calling producers lifted right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you call Jimmy. You hope his wife answers. She's

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Speaker 1: amazing because if Jimmy answers, you have about three seconds

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Speaker 1: to get your point in, and there's a good chance

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Speaker 1: he's gonna hang up before you ask him to come

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Speaker 1: on the show. Yesterday would have been a good day

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Speaker 1: for us to call Jimmy Johnson. I have that phone number. Yes, eller.

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Speaker 6: If Belichick just beat Eli Manning, we're not even having

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Speaker 6: the conversation. If Belichick's getting in first ballot, that would

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Speaker 6: have been two more Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, to bring his total to ten. And he's

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Speaker 1: not a first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to go to Dan here or do

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Speaker 4: you want to start with Giannis because I.

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Speaker 3: Don't want Dan hanging on there for all kinds of time. Well,

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Speaker 3: I just want to ask him to repeat one thing,

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Speaker 3: ok if he doesn't mind, Okay, give me that story again, Dan, Hello.

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Speaker 8: Dan, I think I know which one.

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Speaker 3: Give me the story again. I believe it had to

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Speaker 3: do with a uniform choice of white.

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Speaker 8: Unwhite yes, the new England Patriots designated home team, but

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Speaker 8: wearing their white jerseys and white pants for Super Bowl sixty.

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Speaker 3: Hearing that as part of an update, a very important update,

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Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, I just kind of threw my

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Speaker 3: hands in the air and was like, is that is

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Speaker 3: that really news that we should all be reacting to?

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Speaker 3: And then I just look across and I don't know

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Speaker 3: if Stu and I are on the same page on this.

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Speaker 3: I think I don't know if this was just a

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Speaker 3: he had this look on his face, and it was

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Speaker 3: a tired look. It's a look like he just woke

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Speaker 3: up thirty minutes ago, and yes, like, yeah, what am

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Speaker 3: I doing?

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Speaker 1: You didn't like it?

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Speaker 3: You didn't like that.

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Speaker 1: I want to be honest with you, Dan, A small

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Speaker 1: part of me died right there, really.

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Speaker 4: Not all of me, thankfully, just a very very small

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Speaker 1: That Taylor is gonna come in here because he still

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Speaker 1: cares about the White Home Whites. He thinks that, he

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Speaker 6: I am one thousand percent with Dan because I have

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Speaker 6: this note sixteen of the last twenty Super Bowl winners

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Speaker 6: have worn white jerseys. That's eighty percent of the last

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Speaker 6: twenty Super Bowl winners. Dan, maybe if you had that fact,

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Speaker 6: it would have been a little more interesting. You maybe

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Speaker 6: spice up the update.

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Speaker 8: Wait, wow, are you telling you guys by the way,

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Speaker 8: you guys can do the updates, you know, like, go ahead,

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Speaker 8: Stuve if you want to throw it to yourself or.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no to fine, listen to me.

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Speaker 1: I'm on team Dan. I am on team Dan. I

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Speaker 1: am not team Taylor.

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Speaker 9: I'm team Dan.

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Speaker 4: You're the most professional.

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Speaker 3: No, you're not.

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Speaker 1: You're the most listened Dan. You are the most professional

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Speaker 4: And don't lash back at me. I did not say that.

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Speaker 1: I can't control what comes out of Taylor's mouth, but

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Speaker 1: I would like to hear Taylor do an update so

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Speaker 3: Your job is.

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Speaker 8: Well, here's the other thing too, about it, So that

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Speaker 8: little bit more room to dance a little bit with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: but I do think, I do think that the uniform combination,

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Speaker 8: to Taylor's point, does have some relevance. The Seahawks haven't

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Speaker 8: won a Super Bowl wearing their navies. The only one

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Speaker 8: they won they wear the white jerseys in Super Bowl

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Speaker 8: forty eight. We've also seen teams when the Pittsburgh Steelers won,

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Speaker 8: when they beat the Seahawks, they were the home team.

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Speaker 8: Then they chose to wear white because they went on

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Speaker 8: that road run they won, you know, their games all

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Speaker 8: away from Pittsburgh throughout that playoff run. So there is

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Speaker 8: something tied to the decision to what you wear in

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Speaker 8: the Super Bowls as it ties to super Bowl history.

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 4: I mean, go ahead, Tayler.

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Speaker 6: We're all one team, just pulling the rope the same way.

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Speaker 6: Great stats, Dad, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean you just criticize the man. He's been doing

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Speaker 4: this forever.

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Speaker 3: Stude. Let me take this for jesus, Taylor. Here's the problem.

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Speaker 3: I love them when you come on the air and

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Speaker 3: you're telling Dan Bayer, yes, who is on the Mount

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Speaker 3: Rushmore of update.

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Speaker 1: Folks, he's in my top five. We'll get to that tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: That he did something wrong.

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Speaker 9: You're effectively I did not say wrong.

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Speaker 3: He could have added something.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Spice it up.

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Speaker 4: Do you want to take a crack at doing his.

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Speaker 3: Stu, you're producing the update. You don't need to produce

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Speaker 3: the update, man, you just need to produce ste Gotts,

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Speaker 3: just stew gots. So when Stu hear's you say that,

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Speaker 3: it's like great, bleep an idea. Now give me more,

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Speaker 3: give me more idea. Dan Bayer doesn't need it, that's right.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So while we're talking about white uniforms, and I got

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Speaker 3: you on the hook here, Taylor, I'm looking at the

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Speaker 3: show sheet here, and you've got a story about a

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Speaker 3: white uniform, white chocolate, and Jason Williams his uniform, his

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Speaker 1: No, it was something like that, and it's way too much.

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Speaker 1: And I love how you grabbed the steering wheel and

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Speaker 1: just took it to the NBA.

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Speaker 3: Well, of course I did there because I would like

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Speaker 3: to ask Taylor, who's huge on uniform talk, apparently, what

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Speaker 3: he thought we were going to discuss here in regard

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Speaker 3: to Jason Williams's rookie year jersey selling privately for one

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Speaker 3: hundred and forty thousand dollars with your host John Stugatzwiener.

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Speaker 6: So I'm the ideas guy. You guys are the host.

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Speaker 6: I'm just supposed to supply it to you and then

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Speaker 6: you guys figure out where you want to take it from.

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Speaker 6: I never said you have to talk about Jason Williams

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Speaker 6: your jersey. Yes, but if you want some of my opinions,

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Speaker 6: maybe it's like, hey, what would you want to get

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Speaker 6: in your collection? If somebody's willing to pay that much

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Speaker 6: Not one hundred and forty thousand, because nobody really has

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Speaker 1: I'm not certain I would pay one hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: that seems like it's way too much. But Mikey, he

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Speaker 1: is putting stories on the show sheet for a show

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Speaker 1: that he wants to do, not the show that me

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Speaker 1: and Izzy wants to do. And I think that is

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Speaker 1: Isy's chief complaint. These are stories that Taylor would like

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Speaker 1: to discuss, and yet he is forcing us.

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Speaker 9: To discuss stories that we don't want to Disco.

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Speaker 3: I don't have much of a complaint bringing up my

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Speaker 3: guy Jason Williams. Okay, I covered his championship team with

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Speaker 3: the Miami Heat, And yeah, I think I would probably

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Speaker 3: want this jersey more than any other jersey. So in

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Speaker 3: terms of the stories that we're talking about, yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: not the worst one for me.

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Speaker 9: What for us to what.

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Speaker 6: You guys aren't gonna do is criticize my show sheet

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Speaker 6: because we all have access to the same show sheet.

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Speaker 6: It just turns into my show sheet because I'm the

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Speaker 6: only person putting things into the show sheet and then

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Speaker 6: giving you guys ideas of, hey, where do you want

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Speaker 1: Also false, Yes, the job is for you to put

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Speaker 1: things in the show sheet that me and Izzy might.

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Speaker 4: Be interested in. I mean that's all.

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Speaker 3: Or if somebody else puts something in the show sheet,

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Speaker 3: maybe you can supplement it with more information. So that

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Speaker 3: is something we could talk about. But that's neither here

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Speaker 8: Just so you guys know, this sports radio wanted any hierarchy.

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Speaker 8: I just I want to make my case here.

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Speaker 3: Please.

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Speaker 8: Third story on cbssports dot com the uniforms their third headline.

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Speaker 1: I think it was the fourth tidbit that I passed along. Yeah, yeah, Dan,

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Speaker 1: Are you now team Taylor?

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Speaker 4: What is going on here?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 4: It seems like you're defending, not criticized.

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Speaker 8: Notice how I didn't take a little jab at Taylor

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Speaker 8: though like he did to me. You know, with the

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Speaker 8: content portion of it.

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Speaker 3: I'm there with the Olive brand. It's possible. I am

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Speaker 3: Jason Williams's favorite journalist. Every which is not saying much.

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Speaker 3: So if we ever want to get him on.

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Speaker 1: The show, just be ready, h with the Today would

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Speaker 1: be the day I mean to get him on the show.

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Speaker 1: Feel free to reach out to him. But you didn't

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Speaker 1: know this was going to be on the show shooting? Why, frankly,

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Speaker 1: how could you? I mean, all Taylor gave me in

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Speaker 1: my year, I'm not certain if it was in my

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Speaker 1: year or on the air?

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Speaker 4: Is white chocolate?

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Speaker 3: That's it?

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Speaker 4: All I got?

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Speaker 3: That was in your Yes, we gotta work on that.

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Speaker 4: What do you got for us? On Giannis? What's going

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Speaker 4: on here?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 9: Man?

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Speaker 10: Who?

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Speaker 3: I feel so free? Listen my legs do me a favor.

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Speaker 1: As long as this ends in the Knicks getting him,

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Speaker 1: we're good with Thistor.

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Speaker 3: Well all right, so let's just start there, shall we.

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Speaker 3: Since I've got a benefit. I've got to do this

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Speaker 3: show with a few New Yorkers and one who has

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Speaker 3: zero interest in basketball whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Is he somebody who still have faith in Is he

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Speaker 6: So I don't have much faith in Karl Anthony Towns.

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Speaker 6: He just doesn't feel like a winning player when it

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Speaker 3: It's his second twenty rebound game of the season, his

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Speaker 3: Look at these twenty two rebounds that we haven't seen

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Speaker 3: here again, it's an interview of New Yorker Taylor realistic

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with myself.

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Speaker 3: Yes, just give it a second.

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Speaker 6: So I don't think the Knicks comparatively have the package

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Speaker 3: Work right, and then to find a team that finds

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Speaker 3: But even that, if you are giving up two future

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Speaker 6: I think the biggest problem is that other teams also

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Speaker 4: And I have no idea what they want. I don't

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Speaker 3: what has been my season. Sure, Like, if everything stays

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Speaker 3: If I mean not the Celtics. The Raptors reportedly, reportedly,

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Speaker 3: They're not serious if that's the case, And I don't

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Speaker 1: You're saying when they throw those two names out there,

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Speaker 3: Correct, Okay, Or even if they if they were serious

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Speaker 3: because neither of those two guys are Jannis Antetokoumpo, even

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Speaker 3: I have exactly what the Bucks want, which is young talent,

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Speaker 3: basically anybody other than Kid Cunningham, I know it's hard

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Speaker 3: He's a young All Star, but come on, this is

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Speaker 1: Now you say that, but I will tell you that

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Speaker 1: And so, like you're you're asking teams to give up

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 3: But if he's healthy, it is right. If the Detroit

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Speaker 3: let's say they have to give up Jalen Duran even

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Speaker 3: And you have sort of overlapping timelines where you still

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Speaker 3: you're not mortgaging the future necessarily for a guy that,

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Speaker 3: we're definitely winning this thing, and we can do it

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Speaker 9: But to Stu's point is he.

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Speaker 6: Doesn't it feel like it's not like this guarantee that

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Speaker 6: that does feel like a big if when he's not

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Speaker 1: Calf injury, so is he If I'm the Pistons and

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting there, I think the record's thirty four to

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Speaker 1: who is a very good player, a young player for

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Speaker 1: Yannis only because Yannis and his inability to stay healthy,

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Speaker 3: I don't think worrying about Jannis won an NBA title

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Dan Bayer because he's a Bucks fan

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Speaker 8: also think that Yannis is difficult to incorporate into what

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Speaker 3: I think he is very much unique and I understand

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Speaker 3: All those same things is the same thing you do

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Speaker 3: You can absolutely incorporate Yannis into your offense. If you

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Speaker 3: Tell us Jesus, Wow.

440
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Speaker 7: Stu, howy you doing? It's hard to explain, really, I mean,

441
00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,720
Speaker 7: you know, we leave these meetings and we don't get

442
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 7: the results. And so when I found out, like everybody else,

443
00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 7: that Bill didn't get in, I was really blown away.

444
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,560
Speaker 7: There's no way in the world that I thought when

445
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 7: that meeting was over a couple of weeks ago that

446
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,600
Speaker 7: he didn't get in. And I don't know, I don't

447
00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 7: know what people are thinking.

448
00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 3: Gary, How does it work?

449
00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: Can you take people inside the Hall of a the

450
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame committee and the voting process, Like, how

451
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:22,880
Speaker 1: does it work?

452
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 3: Do you guys just.

453
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,520
Speaker 1: Throw it a name and start debating it? How does

454
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:26,000
Speaker 1: that work?

455
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 3: Well?

456
00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, we have the fifteen modern era candidates,

457
00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 7: then the three seniors, the contributor, and the coach. So

458
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 7: we do that smaller group first, the three seniors, the contributor,

459
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 7: and the coach. There's a presentation made about in this case,

460
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 7: you know, just say Belichick, and then we discussed that

461
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 7: for a while and the opening presentation, and anybody who

462
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 7: wants to speak up on him can speak. And then

463
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 7: we go on to the next months. We do all

464
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 7: five and then we vote. We were told we can.

465
00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 7: We have to vote for three of the five, and

466
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 7: whoever winds up getting eighty percent gets in. And this

467
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 7: is only the second year they've done it like this,

468
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 7: and last year, out of the five, only one got in.

469
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 7: I don't know how many got in this year. I'll

470
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 7: find out next week like everybody else. But I certainly

471
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 7: thought that that Belichick and Craft were like no brainers,

472
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 7: and we know now that Belichick didn't get in, and

473
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 7: I'm waiting to find out about Craft.

474
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out what the gratification is out

475
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 3: of all this, Like how much could you just you

476
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 3: just come across as clearly petty when you do this,

477
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,919
Speaker 3: Given that everybody who knows anything about sport will come

478
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 3: to Bill Belichick's defense in this situation, is it really

479
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 3: worth a one year delay of gratification. I don't really

480
00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 3: get it.

481
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 7: Well, I just want to go on record. If you're

482
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 7: listening to this right now, they say I voted for Belichick,

483
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 7: No right of course. Yeah, yeah, we need to make that.

484
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: Speaking for people that you don't Yeah, I don't know.

485
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 7: I mean reasons. The voter from Kansas City wrote a

486
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 7: column about it today, saying that it's not that he

487
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 7: voted against Belichick. He just voted for the three seniors

488
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 7: instead because he thought this could be a one shot

489
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,480
Speaker 7: deal where they get presented to us and if they

490
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 7: don't get it now, they may never have another opportunity.

491
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 7: And he figured that Belichick would have plenty of opportunities

492
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Speaker 7: the next couple of years. I don't think like that.

493
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 7: I just put in if we vote for three, I

494
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 7: vote for the three that I think most worthy. I

495
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 7: don't worry is this their last chances. It's their first chance.

496
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 7: It's whoever deserves it the most. Whether people didn't vote

497
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 7: for him because he was a jerk with the media

498
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 7: for all those years, I mean, he was as rude

499
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Speaker 7: to me and disrespectful to me as he was to

500
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Speaker 7: anybody else. But I voted for him because that's not

501
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 7: supposed to be a criteria. The other reason, which I

502
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 7: think is the most obvious reason, and anybody who follows

503
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,479
Speaker 7: football can come to this conclusion themselves, is that people

504
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 7: felt he cheated, not felt, but it was proven that

505
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 7: he cheated. He was disciplined for it. And those that

506
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 7: feel that the Hall of Fame should uphold the honor

507
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 7: and the integrity of the game and be everything, be

508
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 7: stand for everything that's good about football felt that they

509
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 7: didn't want to put somebody who was found guilty of cheating,

510
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 7: and whether they believe that's let's penalize him for a

511
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 7: year so he doesn't have, you know, the prestige of

512
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 7: being known as a first ballot Hall of Famer. But

513
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 7: we'll vote him in another year. I mean, that's possible.

514
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 7: It also could be he's a cheater. He'd always be

515
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 7: known as a cheater, and I'm never voting for him.

516
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 7: So there's different votivations here. But because it's a private

517
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 7: valot and not everybody there's fifty of us, and i'd

518
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 7: say maybe fifteen spoke up speak up for any one candidate,

519
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 7: So it's impossible to know what everybody's thinking, because you

520
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 7: know they can verbalize what they're thinking and still vote

521
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 7: a different way. It's a private ballot. We don't know

522
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 7: what anybody's doing.

523
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: Did the cheating, I'm up in the conversation.

524
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 7: What what do you think?

525
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: Well, I mean yet, but how.

526
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: Long would you spend on a guy like the presentation

527
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: should be eight Super Bowl rings and that's it.

528
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Speaker 7: I mean, well, I mean the presentation you're allowed, the

529
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 7: whoever's designated to make the presentation has five minutes, and

530
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 7: then the ensuing conversation can take three days.

531
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Speaker 3: If we go that long.

532
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Speaker 7: In his case, it was the longest of the day

533
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Speaker 7: at one. From what I remember, it was like between

534
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 7: forty five and fifty minutes. And a lot of it

535
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 7: started off, you know, extremely positive, and then you know,

536
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 7: somebody started talking about spygate, and that started the whole

537
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 7: conversation on spygate and cheating and whether you know, we can,

538
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 7: you know, should put somebody in who was disciplined by

539
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 7: the league for cheating. And it wasn't like a slap

540
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 7: on the wrist kind of thing. And you know, in

541
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 7: the context of his career, it was more than a

542
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 7: blip on the radar, but it wasn't you know, a

543
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 7: federal crime. And I made the point that if you

544
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,479
Speaker 7: want to expunge his record starting with when he was

545
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 7: found spying, which was the first game of the two

546
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 7: thousand and seven season, So if you want to wipe

547
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,719
Speaker 7: out everything he accomplished before that, meaning three Super Bowls,

548
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 7: and just judge him on what happened after that, they

549
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 7: went undefeated the rest of that season, and he got

550
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 7: to six more Super Bowls after they found some guilty

551
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 7: and he won three of them. And that ended up self.

552
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 7: Stu is a Hall of Fame career.

553
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: Yes, your answer to my terrible question was fantastic.

554
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 4: What do you think that was amazing? Was so good?

555
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 4: Thank you for answering like that.

556
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 7: I'll tell you this, I mean this sincerely, that I

557
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 7: wish your show was was on in New York. You

558
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 7: know that I can listen to it all the time

559
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 7: because I've always, you know, enjoyed listening to you. I'm

560
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 7: still trying to tell you what Stu Gott's means, but

561
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 7: I know you're in New York roll and I've enjoyed

562
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 7: listening to you.

563
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 11: Well.

564
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: I appreciate that it's not flattering. It was a nickname

565
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: given to me by Hank Goldberg. I can't say it

566
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: on air, will get fired.

567
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 9: But Taylor, Hey Gary, this is Taylor.

568
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 6: If Belichick just beat Eli Manning twice, are we even

569
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 6: having this conversation today?

570
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 7: You know, I think so big. What's the difference if

571
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 7: you want, you know, six out of nine or eight

572
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 7: out of nine? Six out of nine is pretty damn good.

573
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 7: And you know, I'll just leave it like this because

574
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 7: this answers your questions succinctly. If spygate was not an

575
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 7: issue here, Bill Belichick would have been one of those guys.

576
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 7: And I've seen it happen before where the present just

577
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 7: stands up, says his name, and sits down, and then

578
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame, the person who runs our meeting

579
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 7: would say does anybody anybody have anything to say? And

580
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 7: we'd all say no, and then when we vote, you know,

581
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 7: he'd be unanimous selection. That's what would have happened, was

582
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 7: exactly this record that he has if he didn't have

583
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 7: spygate on his resume. So I'm reading all these different

584
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 7: rationalizations and whatnot, but in my mind, that's what did it.

585
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 7: I mean, what house would you vote against them? I mean,

586
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 7: come on, I mean, it's it's clear that's the reason

587
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 7: but it's also in my opinions, it wasn't enough to

588
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 7: keep him out. And I'm not a Belichick guy. I mean,

589
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 7: I just I didn't talk to him for fifteen years

590
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 7: because during the Spygate thing, when I was working for

591
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 7: the Daily News in New York, I wrote calm off

592
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 7: the column, ripping him and that's why he didn't talk

593
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 7: to me for fifteen years. And that's okay. But when

594
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 7: it came down to vote from it took me. You

595
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 7: know we do, we do it electronically, and I had

596
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 7: to vote for three out of five. And I mean,

597
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 7: I don't have a problem telling you I voted a

598
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 7: Belichick Craft and Roger Pray Again. It took me about

599
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 7: two seconds to throw that ballot.

600
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, as it should go ahead?

601
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 3: Is do they give you guidelines? Gary? Sorry? Did I say, Craig,

602
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: they give you guidelines at least because you said the

603
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: three most deserving? And I would say that seems like

604
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: we should do every single time. It should be the

605
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 3: three most deserving, not just because oh, somebody might be

606
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 3: left off the ballot next year.

607
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 7: They don't specifically tell us to try to manipulate your

608
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 7: ballot to get people in this year because you think,

609
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 7: you know, it's very hard to be to emerge from

610
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 7: the senior pool as one of the three. There's so

611
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 7: many deserving players in there, and you usually don't get

612
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 7: a second chance to get voted on once you get

613
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 7: presented by the subcommittee. So I understand, there's like one

614
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty people in the original ballot, and it's

615
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 7: a nine member subcommittee and it's up to the subcommittee

616
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 7: to narrow it down to three and then the entire

617
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 7: committee votes on them. So invariably it's it's three different

618
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 7: seniors every year. So if you don't if you make

619
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 7: it into the meeting room but don't get elected, you know,

620
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 7: the chances that you're going to come back in the

621
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 7: same meeting room within the next two to three years

622
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 7: is very unlikely because there are just so many other candidates.

623
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 7: So I understand thinking, you know, if you know, Roger Craig,

624
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 7: Kenny Anderson or else in Greenwood don't make it this year,

625
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 7: that are they going to make it? Are they going

626
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 7: to make it next year or the year after. The

627
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 7: odds are against it. So thinking, you know, these guys

628
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 7: are all deserving, So I'm going to vote for all

629
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 7: three and I'll wait to vote for Belichick next year.

630
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 7: I understand that thinking, but it's my owner. That's never

631
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,479
Speaker 7: been part of the criteria that I've I've considered. I

632
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 7: just vote for the in this case, the three best,

633
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 7: and in the in the in the modern year, we

634
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 7: go from fifteen to ten to seven, and then they

635
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 7: say vote for five, and whoever gets eighty percent gets in.

636
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 7: And last year only three the five made it. It

637
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 7: used to be that we voted on them individually, just

638
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 7: like we did in the coaches and contributors and the seniors.

639
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 7: But they wanted to make it harder to get in.

640
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 7: And I truly believe it's because a few years ago

641
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 7: Deon Sanders said it's gotten too easy to get in

642
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame, and I suggest we have a

643
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 7: separate floor for the truly elite players. Of course, because

644
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 7: he has no ego, Dion says, you know, he should

645
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 7: be on that floor. And I think, you know, some

646
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 7: others backed him up on that. And I think that

647
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 7: they made this change in order to well, they did

648
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 7: make the change in order to make it harder to

649
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 7: get in, but I think they did it in reaction

650
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 7: to a Dion s right.

651
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 4: Yes, because eight super Bowls is no longer enough?

652
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, yeah, I mean, it's.

653
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: It's just it's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. I'm wondering. You

654
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: don't need to elaborate on it. I'm wondering here, should

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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame try and fix this? Can the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame try and fix this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: That's I was about to say that that. You know,

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Speaker 7: each year, about a month after or the NFL Honor Show,

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Speaker 7: we reconvene and it's kind of a gripe session and

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Speaker 7: how can we get better and what should we do?

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Speaker 7: That kind of thing. And last year, being the first

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Speaker 7: year that we changed the voting process, there was a

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Speaker 7: lot of discontent with it because we had a class

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Speaker 7: of four. Usually it's eight. So the message back from

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Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame was let's give it a couple

667
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Speaker 7: of years and see how this goes. We think this

668
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Speaker 7: is the right process, but if it's not, we're always

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Speaker 7: open to doing better. And I guarantee you at that

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Speaker 7: meeting that we have that this is going to come

671
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Speaker 7: up and people are going to say this new process

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Speaker 7: eliminated Bill Belichick, because if we just voted on him

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Speaker 7: individually without having him competing against anybody, and he just

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Speaker 7: needed eighty percent, he would have gotten eighty percent, And

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Speaker 7: I truly believe he probably would have got eighty five

676
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Speaker 7: to ninety percent if we just voted on him individually.

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Speaker 7: So I'm really interested to see whether they go back

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Speaker 7: to the way we used to do it.

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Speaker 6: Garret, do you think there's a chance that the people

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Speaker 6: that didn't vote for Belichick could potentially lose their vote

681
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Speaker 6: they should?

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Speaker 7: Well, no, I don't think so, and I don't think

683
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Speaker 7: that they should. I totally disagree with them not voting

684
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Speaker 7: for him, but you know, they encourage us to, you know,

685
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Speaker 7: to think independently and consider all the facts and use

686
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Speaker 7: your best judgment in making the decisions. So I don't

687
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Speaker 7: think they should throw people off because they voted against them.

688
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Speaker 7: I mean, that's not really the democratic way.

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Speaker 3: Is it.

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Speaker 1: Well, if they made a personal Gary, that's different. You know,

691
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Speaker 1: they need to investigate it. If it's a personal shot

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Speaker 1: at Belichick.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I definitely agree. If people didn't vote for him

695
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Speaker 7: because he wasn't nice to him in press conferences, then

696
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Speaker 7: they should lose their vote. But you know, try getting

697
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Speaker 7: someone to admit that.

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Speaker 6: That's a good point. Yes, if these voters stay consistent.

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Speaker 6: Is this a preview of what'll happen when Tom Brady

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Speaker 6: becomes eligible.

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Speaker 7: Oh jeez, you know, I've I've barely been asked that

702
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Speaker 7: question a bunch, and it never crossed my mind when

703
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 7: I heard the other day that Belichick did not get

704
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Speaker 7: in like people going to hold the flate Gate against Tom.

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Speaker 7: I do want to say that as soon as the

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Speaker 7: flate gate nonsense. And I say that in Capitol letters

707
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 7: began in twenty fifteen. I wrote, and I was consistently

708
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Speaker 7: writing in the Daily News that this was the biggest

709
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Speaker 7: bunch of garbage in NFL history, and it was simply

710
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Speaker 7: a makeup call because the owners were really upset with

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Speaker 7: Goodell for not suspending Belichick in two thousand and seven,

712
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Speaker 7: and at the first opportunity to slap around the Patriots

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Speaker 7: to a little bit, he took it. And I'm convinced

714
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Speaker 7: that's why they pursued it to their degree that they did.

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Speaker 7: It was the connected Dots five million dollar investigation that

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Speaker 7: proved nothing, and they still suspended them for four games.

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Speaker 7: And the other owners, I'm sure we're very pleased with

718
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Speaker 7: the Commissioner Gary to answer whether or not the Committee

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Speaker 7: will do the same thing. I'd like to think that

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Speaker 7: at this point most people have recognized that that the

721
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Speaker 7: flake Gate was was just a garbage investigation.

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Speaker 1: Gary h we appreciate the time I have to run here.

723
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Speaker 1: You can listen to us for free on the iHeart app.

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Speaker 7: By the way, you know, I'm not that technical. I'm

725
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 7: technologically advanced, and now that you tell me about it,

726
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 7: I do not how to do apps. So I will

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Speaker 7: be doing that.

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Speaker 1: Find the young person in your life, okay, tell them

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Speaker 1: how to use it.

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Speaker 7: I guess three kids who teach me every day something

731
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Speaker 7: new about my computer.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: His most recent book was released this past fall. It's

734
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Speaker 1: called Brady Versus Belichick, The Dynasty Debate. Gary Myers, thank

735
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Speaker 1: you so much for the time. We hope to do

736
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Speaker 1: it again soon.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for having me on. Guys.

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Speaker 2: Take care be sure to catch live editions of Stuve

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Speaker 2: Gotson Live Whekday, he said, three pm Eastern twelve pm

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Speaker 2: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

741
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Speaker 1: Gary Myers NFL Insider going to join us in about

742
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Speaker 1: fifteen minutes. See if there's any meat left on the

743
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: bone with Bill Belichick. Do we owe Bill Polly? In

744
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: an apology. He said he voted for Bill Belichick. Do

745
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Speaker 1: we believe him?

746
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: Is that different than Gary Meyer? Did I call Myers?

747
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 3: I like to add S's no, No, I think you're correct.

748
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Speaker 3: I'm just thinking of other sports figures in my brain

749
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Speaker 3: and for some reason that name is popping up, and

750
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Speaker 3: I probably shouldn't have said it out loud. No, honest, No,

751
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 3: it's okay. Did you say to be Yannest?

752
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 3: But I should have, which takes me to my point

754
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 3: about Giannis. There's one team that we haven't mentioned yet.

755
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Speaker 1: By the way, I have a full board of calls.

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Speaker 3: Man, we'll get to them. A team that you know

757
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: you don't want to let them get Yannis is the

758
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 3: Minnesota Timberwolves.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

760
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 3: You do not want to see Anthony Edwards unless you're

761
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: in Minnesota fan. Do not want to see Anthony Edwards

762
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 3: and Janis together for the next five years. It's going

763
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: to be lights out for the rest of the league.

764
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Can I take calls now? There's one or two there

766
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Speaker 3: that say Yannis next to them.

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00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: You can't listen. Me and Taylor are excited. Okay, we

768
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: know this doesn't excite you. You want to talk about

769
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: the NBA, But me and Taylor. I wanted to get

770
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: back to radio, and Taylor wanted to join me every

771
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: day to do radio, as did mikey A to take calls. Okay,

772
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: and we have a full board of them. And I

773
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: haven't taken many calls since we started doing this show

774
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 1: last Monday. And you keep interrupting me and my precious

775
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: time with the phone callers with fred in West Virginia,

776
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: with Alan, Albuquerque, with Kenneth and Michigan, with Brenton Ohio

777
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 1: with David and which to I see you every day.

778
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 3: I speak to you every day.

779
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 4: You can call me anytime.

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00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 3: These people can't.

781
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: They have a two hour window.

782
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 3: You can call me Alan out. Let's go and on.

783
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: These callers bring up a uniform color. Yes, I'm walking

784
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: out and not coming back till tomorrow. Let's trust the

785
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 3: callers here. Fred in West Virginia, go ahead.

786
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Speaker 9: Hey guys, it is.

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Speaker 11: Great to talk with you. I'm new to you all

788
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 11: that I'm digging the show.

789
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Speaker 3: Thank you all, thank you.

790
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Speaker 11: It's an organization that needs to say faith with their

791
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 11: with their faith.

792
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: Okay.

793
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Speaker 11: I don't know how they'll pull it all. I would

794
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 11: like to see it happen. Hit Yannis to Dallas.

795
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for Cooper flag right, he's overrated.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you.

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Speaker 3: Yep. Well, Dallas finds itself in a bit of a

798
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: mess because they've got oh spoiler alert, Anthony Davis was

799
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 3: hurt again. I could have told you that he's got

800
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 3: the saddest list of I saw his career injury list

801
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 3: and it took me like fifteen minutes to read. But

802
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: it's the saddest thing in the world. Yeah, they're not

803
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: getting honest. The most obvious part of that call being

804
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 3: I don't know how they're going to do it. They're

805
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: not going to do it. Yeah, they can't.

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00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 6: You'd agree, though, it'd be a sign of good faith, goodwill.

807
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: Again, it's like the heat collar before. There's not a

808
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: bunch of basketball gods saying, hey, this is what we

809
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: should do. Yes, this makes sense. Okay, let's let's have

810
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Speaker 3: Dallas save face by granting them you honest at the

811
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Speaker 3: kompo out of the sky.

812
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Speaker 1: Now, let's go to Kenneth, who's in Michigan today. Go ahead, Kenneth, Hey,

813
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: what's up, y'all?

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Speaker 11: What's up? Stop? I have to listen to you for a minute.

815
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Speaker 11: He's your chief. What's up?

816
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Speaker 7: Hey?

817
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 11: Have my bulls invade Miami to night. I was thinking, like,

818
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 11: you know, he got in at Minching going to Chicago.

819
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Speaker 11: I mean, what do you think about that? Also, you

820
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 11: and goldick Man, how you gonna last from my Titans?

821
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 11: Because we gave Rabell away, not not even knowing, like

822
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 11: boom off like eight the Road who missed the playoffs.

823
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Speaker 11: Then you went like five and eleven a year after you.

824
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Speaker 3: Right, and then we get rid of them.

825
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 11: And then the world is like, what are we doing?

826
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Speaker 11: I mean, we have to we have to for brave

827
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Speaker 11: out in New England as a true fans. But you know,

828
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Speaker 11: we are like, it's not a big deal. And he

829
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Speaker 11: going to the super Bowl for us, you know, so

830
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Speaker 11: y'all laugh at us. We got our coaches in hands.

831
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Speaker 11: But it reminds me so as I'm jumping around with

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Speaker 11: the bulls off those I remember when Randall got hurt.

833
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 11: You are that on the radio, Tom Bustle, Oh yeah,

834
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Speaker 11: another news Randell broke his wrist, go miss the rest

835
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Speaker 11: of the playoffs, and I remember that. Let's go with Levatar.

836
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Speaker 11: But I just want to hear what you thought about

837
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Speaker 11: the county of going to Chicago and we're coming for

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Speaker 11: the jests next year too.

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Speaker 3: We need a special hotline for people who have like

840
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: long term grudges against you guys that they just need

841
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Speaker 3: to air out here that they haven't gotten a chance

842
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Speaker 3: to we do.

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Speaker 1: Can we can we make that happen Sherman or Taylor?

844
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Speaker 1: Can we make that happen Sherman Oaks, California? Can we

845
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Speaker 1: have a hotline where people just call away into air

846
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: grievances with me?

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Speaker 3: Is that possible?

848
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Speaker 6: That wasn't a grievance, that was a Then let's tell it.

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Speaker 1: They can leave whatever the hell they want, figure out

850
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Speaker 1: a hotline. Okay, they can leave a song, they can

851
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Speaker 1: leave a take, they can leave a joke, whatever they

852
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Speaker 1: want making jokes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's makes me laugh. Well, yeah, it just made

854
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 3: me laugh because I love the fact that there are

855
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 3: fan bases out there that are like, you know what,

856
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Speaker 3: screw it, Yiannis to my team and actually try and

857
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Speaker 3: believe it, because what what are the bull the bulls

858
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Speaker 3: really like? Have you seen all the TV shows that

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00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: say it's probably down to like the Wolves, Heat, Warriors

860
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Speaker 3: and Nicks. But hey, let's throw Josh giddeyon there as

861
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Speaker 3: a very attractive piece.

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Speaker 1: Well for starter Chicago doesn't have a beach, but you

863
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Speaker 1: don't understand.

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Speaker 3: Well, they do, but it's on a lake.

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Speaker 4: And it's not technically it's cement people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like rocks. I mean, it's weird.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, you don't understand fandom.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Fans think if they could talk, if they could talk

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Speaker 1: about it enough, they'll talk it into existence.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So if.

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Speaker 1: He could just talk himself into it, talk us to Giannis,

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Speaker 1: to the bulls. Even as unrealistic as it is, he

874
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: thinks he could talk it into existence.

875
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 3: You know, it's really weird. Heat and Bulls. They played

876
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: against each play against each other three consecutive games starting tonight.

877
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 4: That's not interesting, though.

878
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: Let's go to David. I love you in Wichita. Go ahead, David.

879
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: Somebody somebody in the car was just like, huh, that

880
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: never happens. I wonder why a triple ed. I bet

881
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 3: you somebody did.

882
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: Let's go to David Wichita, Kansas.

883
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: I love this. Oh he did.

884
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 4: I wanted to talk to someone from Wichita today, damn it.

885
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 4: Let's go out to Brent, who was in Ohio today.

886
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 10: Go ahead, Brent, he's too glad to have you back.

887
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 7: I've got to hear you for.

888
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 10: A long while. I just wanted to say something about

889
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 10: I've been at University of Hawaii fan since high school

890
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 10: and nobody ever talks about him. This year, there was

891
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 10: only game on Christmas Eve for the Hawaii bull exciting

892
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 10: game thirty five three four over Cow. Somebody prior to

893
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 10: you on the network says bowl games don't matter, but

894
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 10: that was the only football game on that day, so

895
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 10: that did matter. Also, I want to get props to

896
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 10: the men's basketball team fifteen and four, first place in

897
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 10: the Big West this year. Yeah, I just want to

898
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 10: get the tops to Hawaii. And also I want to

899
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 10: get some tops to all the draft picks they get

900
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 10: to the NFL that nobody ever realizes.

901
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 7: So that's all I got today.

902
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 10: Thank you for having me.

903
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: All right, Brent, we appreciate Hawaii basketball. I'm telling you

904
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: watch half of those guys, great guard play senior leadership.

905
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: They play defense like no one else in the country.

906
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 1: They slapped the floor every time you come down the floor.

907
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: Don't be surprised if the Rainbows find themselves in the

908
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: Elite eight. How about that? Yeah, you had something there.

909
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 1: I mean, no one talks more Hawaii than me, No

910
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: one in the.

911
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: History of radio.

912
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 9: I think we're number one in the Hawaii market, by

913
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 9: the way.

914
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: I like in terms of references over time, Yes, nobody

915
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 3: in radio the continental United States has said Hawaii football

916
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: more than you. But it's always just in reference to

917
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 3: chasing bets late at night.

918
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: Well, it is Hawaii at home after losing seven consecutive

919
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: games on a Saturday. It just feels like a slam dunk,

920
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: and it usually is. It's how you bail yourself out.

921
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: I mean, at least that's how I do it, you know.

922
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: But now I got men's basketball, and I am telling

923
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: you that guard play.

924
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 3: Can you name a garden in Hawaii? Can you cannot?

925
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: I mean Drey Bullock, huh, Isaac Johnson.

926
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:39,320
Speaker 3: They call Mike Taylor almost accidentally fited me that one.

927
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: Let's go out to I'm gonna take this call. He

928
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: calls it every day and he will sit there. Yeah,

929
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: he's on home from yesterday. Let's go, Let's go to

930
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: al and Albuquerque. I have to say that slowly, go

931
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: ahead out.

932
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 5: Heyse you gots third time long time, And I love

933
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 5: that song too. I got a question for you, guys,

934
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 5: But first I gotta quickly mentioned listening to you guys

935
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 5: talk to the Pope yesterday I did a fifth pump

936
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 5: when he named Drop Rogers Hornsby as someone who didn't

937
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 5: get in on the first ballot. That was so funny.

938
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 5: You could say he blazed the trail for forty nine

939
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 5: Ers defensive tackle Dana Snubblefield.

940
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: Please let every call be like that, or Hawaii basketball.

941
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 3: I don't care a snoble Field. That was pretty cool.

942
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: When are we getting to your dueling lists here? Hey?

943
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 8: Well, guys, I just want to quick You mentioned something

944
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 8: with a caller. This is a true story and Iowa

945
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 8: Sam can back me up on this. Okay, there was

946
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 8: a caller that we picked up for the next show

947
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 8: on the network. It's Cavino and Rich at two thirty

948
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 8: Pacific times, so it's five thirty Eastern, and they were

949
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 8: still waiting for you, like the produce true story, Sam,

950
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 8: give me the thumbs up on this.

951
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: Yes, they were still waiting on.

952
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 3: What they want to talk about.

953
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 8: Do you remember you think it was? Was it Belichi

954
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 8: I call of fame? I think that that that was

955
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 8: the conversation. So I don't know, Maybe we need to,

956
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 8: you know, wave a checkered flag to know a kay.

957
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 8: When it's done, it's done. But thirty minutes after true story.

958
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Dan Iowa saying big win for the

959
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: Hawkeyes last night. Huh huh the one point went over USC.

960
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 3: Is that what you're doing too? Oh yeah? Yeah yeah?

961
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: Watch what else would I be referred?

962
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

963
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 4: That was it? That was it, big one.

964
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: You held off a late rally? I mean it was big?

965
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: Are you a college basketball guy a junkie?

966
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 4: All right, all right, I'm getting even more excited. Let's go.

967
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: Thank you? I was and thank you Daan our dueling

968
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: top five after Gary Myers. Okay, I have four. I

969
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 1: need a fifth. Mikey, you're helping Taylor. I know you're

970
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: helping Taylor with it like you are right, You're not

971
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: helping me.

972
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 4: You're helping him. For help, I am.

973
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: I need a fifth? I did I anything?

974
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 4: Eight seven seven ninety nine odd?

975
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 3: Fox?

976
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: Are you tired of the Belichick conversation yet? Because we're

977
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: about to have a guest on are we?

978
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 3: Dang it? Yeah? I was over here looking up Hawaii

979
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 3: men's basketball and they might be kind of serious this year.

980
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: You're right, I told you, don't be surprised if you

981
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: find them in the elite eights. Okay, the Belichick thing

982
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: is just it's laugh out loud funny. Is he You

983
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: made a point yesterday. I didn't hear anyone else say

984
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: this other than you until we came on the air here, right,

985
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: that because no one likes Belichick. You're either a guy

986
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: like you're a Jet fan like me and Mikey, and

987
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: you don't like Belichick because he left your team and

988
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: went to the Patriots and had crazy success and six

989
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: super bowls okay went two with the Giants, eight total.

990
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: Or he gets terrible press conferences.

991
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, or the media doesn't like him, but somehow, some way,

992
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame figured out a way to make

993
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: him a sympathetic figure where everyone was feeling terrible for

994
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: a man that they have blasted for fifty or twenty years.

995
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable what happened yesterday. Jimmy Johnson was calling in

996
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,919
Speaker 1: the radio shows.

997
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 3: To be fair, I don't actually think this was a

998
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: pr move that was somehow settled or handled by the

999
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 3: Belichick camp. It just is funny when you think about it.

1000
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 3: What is the one thing, the one thing you could

1001
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: say out loud that will have people coming to Bill

1002
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: Belichick's defense. Right now, you could say a lot of

1003
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: things about the New England Patriots in their time, and

1004
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: you could say Bill Belichick was not responsible for any

1005
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: of that, right, and you'll probably have like one percent

1006
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,919
Speaker 3: of Patriots fans saying, you know what, he probably wasn't

1007
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,439
Speaker 3: We could have had anybody doing it. But the one

1008
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,800
Speaker 3: thing you cannot say after his retirement, after his retime,

1009
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 3: after he's left the NFL, is that he is not

1010
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 3: a first ballot Hall of Famer. And so not only

1011
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 3: did somebody say that, but eleven or more people voted

1012
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 3: so that he could not get in. And it's the

1013
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 3: one thing that you could say, Wow, everybody's gonna line

1014
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: up in defense of Bill Belichick. It's the only thing

1015
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 3: you could have possibly said.

1016
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 6: Right, How do you guys feel about the people who

1017
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 6: are like we need these names released of who didn't

1018
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 6: vote for Belichick, Like, give me a break. What are

1019
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 6: you guys gonna do if you know, right whose names was,

1020
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 6: You're gonna go to their house.

1021
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,879
Speaker 3: They're gonna protest in front of their house and say

1022
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 3: no more votes. I mean, it doesn't matter like the

1023
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 3: next year, you're gonna go in for their house and

1024
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: say ha ha, he's in like, no, everybody knows what

1025
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: the end game is going to be here. It's just like,

1026
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 3: you know, you just got one over on some people.

1027
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: It's just rich people playing games is what this is.

1028
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: The people in power playing game. They got one over

1029
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 3: on their guy. Haha. You're not gonna be until next year.

1030
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 4: It is funny though, that everyone's calling them.

1031
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: You know, hey, come out and say it to our faces,

1032
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 1: you know, stop hiding behind your votes, hiding behind the

1033
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: hiding behind the Hall of Fame committee. I do think

1034
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 1: if you didn't vote for Belichick, you should have your

1035
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame vote.

1036
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: Take it away. It is pretty sorry, I do.

1037
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, there are a few slam dunks in

1038
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: the history of sports where when you say their name,

1039
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 1: you say yep, yep, Hall of Famer, yep.

1040
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: And that's the way they should do it. I'm not

1041
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: certain how they do it.

1042
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: But if you're in that room in Belichick's name comes up, everyone,

1043
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: all fifty of those people yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

1044
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: there's no debating it. Think what you want about Bill Belichick.

1045
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: He is the greatest coach in the history of our

1046
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: most popular sport.

1047
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 3: Well, if you asked any let's say, average sports fan,

1048
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 3: to name NFL head coaches off the top of your head.

1049
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: How many do you even get to before Bill Belichick? Right?

1050
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 3: Most people? Maybe Vince Vince Lombard, Vince Lombard.

1051
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 9: It's that serious.

1052
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: He's trying to give a preview there. How many names

1053
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 1: do you say before Belichick? I don't think you say

1054
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: any name, seriously, He's the first name that comes to mind,

1055
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: Saban maybe.

1056
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 3: Taylor did not think I knew the Vince Lombardi, the

1057
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 3: Lombard Trophy. It's a stupid show we do people. We're sorry.

1058
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: Gary Myers is going to join us. I believe there's

1059
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: an s there coming up here in just a second.

1060
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: We'll get back to your phone calls.

1061
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: And we have the name of his podcast. I believe

1062
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: there's an there.

1063
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: We have we have dueling top fives as well, athletes

1064
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: that canote San Francisco. I'm very excited for this. I

1065
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: have a great four. I am not confident about my fifth.

1066
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: I just gave you a fifth one, but I used

1067
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 3: it and I didn't even know that Lombard Street is

1068
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,320
Speaker 3: the thing in San Francisco.

1069
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 4: He's never been there.

1070
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 9: Correct check your text.

1071
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know I saw your text. I did.

1072
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 9: Well. Now I don't like this because Mikey saw my list.

1073
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it feels like a little double agent here.

1074
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: He gave me Charles Oakland terrible.

1075
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, I wouldn't have taken that.

1076
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 3: You can have it. I'm angry. That is so bad.

1077
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: He gave me a good one on the bottom. You

1078
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: want to read it, sure, let's do it at the break.

1079
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna use it though. No, no, no, I want

1080
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: you to do it right here. I want you to

1081
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: read it right here because I can't read it.

1082
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: I can't. I can't read the last one. It's funny.

1083
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 4: I'm not going to use it.

1084
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: I'm telling you because I already have I already have

1085
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: that ground covered, okay with somebody else, but Taylor.

1086
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: Might want to use it.

1087
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 3: You're right, We're going to commercial after I say this name.

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Speaker 3: I'm ready, all.

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Speaker 1: this name, we are going to commercial break and Gary

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Speaker 1: Meyers NFL Inside are going to join us next.

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