Speaker 1: Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Senator Chris Van Holland,
Speaker 1: a Maryland Democrat, engaged in the heated exchange Tuesday as
Speaker 1: the nation's top diplomat defended the Trump administration's foreign policy.
Speaker 1: While testifying to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Van Holland
Speaker 1: criticized Rubio on his handling of issues ranging from the
Speaker 1: freezing of humanitarian assistance in Sudan during a genocide, deportations
Speaker 1: to El Salvador El Salvador without due process, and revoking
Speaker 1: student visas. Rubio did it back down. Take a look
Speaker 1: at this exchange.
Speaker 2: We didn't always agree, but I believe we shared some
Speaker 2: common values, a belief in defending democracy and human rights
Speaker 2: abroad and honoring the Constitution at home. That's why I
Speaker 2: voted to confirm you. I believed you would stand up
Speaker 2: for those principles. You haven't. You've done the opposite, and
Speaker 2: I have to tell you directly and personally that I
Speaker 2: regret voting for you for Secretary of State. I yield back.
Speaker 3: I respond, well, first of all, your regret for voting
Speaker 3: for me confirms I'm doing a good job. First of all,
Speaker 3: I'm actually very proud of the work we've done with USAID.
Speaker 3: For example, I don't regret cutting ten million dollars for
Speaker 3: male circumcisions in Mozambique. I don't know how that makes
Speaker 3: a stronger and more prosperous as a nation. I don't
Speaker 3: regret psycho social support services.
Speaker 2: I raised the dame. I respond, Senator, I'd ask you
Speaker 2: to suspend. You had seven straight minutes. I chose to
Speaker 2: use my time that way, Mister Chairman, that's my right
Speaker 2: to please suspend that way.
Speaker 3: Secretary review, Well, I can go on. I mean, there's
Speaker 3: other things here. We spent two hundred and twenty seven
Speaker 3: thousand dollars for Big Cat's YouTube channel from USAID. We
Speaker 3: spent fourteen million dollars for social cohesion in Mali, whatever
Speaker 3: the hell that means. So I can go on and on.
Speaker 3: I got the list here, and there's more that I
Speaker 3: didn't even bring the whole list. In the case of
Speaker 3: El Salvador, absolutely absolutely we deported gang members, gang members,
Speaker 3: including the one that you had a margarita with. That
Speaker 3: guy is a human trafficker, and that guy is a gangbanger,
Speaker 3: and that and and the evidence is going to be
Speaker 3: clear in the days that Rubio has the floor Chairman.
Speaker 2: He can't make unsubstantiated like that. Secretary Rubio has the
Speaker 2: floor ru should take that testimony, the federal senator states,
Speaker 2: because he hasn't done it under oath.
Speaker 1: Good Lord, let me say this. Perhaps will reflect on
Speaker 1: some of the decisions that the Trump administration has made
Speaker 1: and will continue to make regarding El Salvador, regarding Sudan
Speaker 1: and other nations regarding foreigner foreign relations, and we may
Speaker 1: find that we are appalled by some of those decisions.
Speaker 1: With respect however, to Chris van Holland, Senator Chris van Holland,
Speaker 1: their administration has the right to make it. You lost
Speaker 1: their party one, and we will see through the prism
Speaker 1: of history what decisions were right and what decisions was
Speaker 1: wrong based on an administration. I am not getting into
Speaker 1: specifics about what Senator Chris van Holland was lamenting, nor
Speaker 1: am I going to favor Marco Rubio's response, even though
Speaker 1: I loved how he started off by saying, the fact
Speaker 1: that you object shows that I'm doing a good job
Speaker 1: because he's letting them know I don't agree with you,
Speaker 1: ass and I got that part. But we have to
Speaker 1: understand that Marco Rubio officially one of the most powerful
Speaker 1: people in America. Okay, overseeing not just our country, not
Speaker 1: just in terms of Secretary of State, but national security.
Speaker 1: This man is a incredibly influential individual. Are we gonna
Speaker 1: sit here and question the qualifications of Marco Rubio, who
Speaker 1: has been a senator for years, who is a former
Speaker 1: presidential candidate who got re elected in the state of Florida.
Speaker 1: We know who Marco Rubio is. He's not unqualified. He's
Speaker 1: not incoherent, he's not inarticulate. He's not devoid of intelligence.
Speaker 1: He certainly isn't absent or devoid or oblivious to an
Speaker 1: understanding of policies that affect the United States of America.
Speaker 1: Last time I checked Senator Chris van Holland, he's not
Speaker 1: there to agree with you or to be agreeable to you.
Speaker 1: Their administration one the Democrats laws because you were focused
Speaker 1: on things not like this. You were focused on other
Speaker 1: stuff in an effort to win an election, and as
Speaker 1: a result, it cost you. Then we have an elected official.
Speaker 1: Go over to El Salvador to be with Abrego Garcia.
Speaker 1: Forgive me if I don't have his full name in
Speaker 1: front of me. Where were you when Biden was in office,
Speaker 1: were you willing to go there? All I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: this is Senator Marco Rubio, who is now the Secretary
Speaker 1: of Defense and is in charge of our national security
Speaker 1: or national intelligence. He's a very influential individual, very experienced,
Speaker 1: knows what goes on, knows the inner workings of Capitol Hill.
Speaker 1: He just may Now I agree with you and you
Speaker 1: saying that you wouldn't have voted for him.
Speaker 2: So what.
Speaker 1: I don't like the fact that the Ukraine Russia war
Speaker 1: has not been resolved. I don't like the fact that
Speaker 1: we see pro Palestinians in the streets of America and
Speaker 1: beyond in an uproar off of the things that we're
Speaker 1: being told is happening over in Gaza and beyond, and
Speaker 1: that hasn't been resolved by the Trump administration, who swear
Speaker 1: mister Trump himself, who saw up and down President Trump himself,
Speaker 1: who swore, up and down we're gonna resolve this in
Speaker 1: a one day, even though we all knew that wasn't true.
Speaker 1: And perhaps whether it's usaid, whether it's foreign affairs, no
Speaker 1: matter what, perhaps we would look at them and find
Speaker 1: down the line they were more wrong than right. But
Speaker 1: I love how we act like when we lose an election,
Speaker 1: you got the right to try to dictate what the
Speaker 1: winning party and then winning administration elects to do. That's
Speaker 1: why they're in office and you are not. So I
Speaker 1: just think we need to think about those things along
Speaker 1: those lines and understand what's going on here. I think
Speaker 1: it's important. I know this much. We want to question
Speaker 1: the intent of Mark Rubio. He works for President Trump.
Speaker 1: As a subordinate. You might have suggestions, and you might
Speaker 1: have things that you want to do, and there we say,
Speaker 1: you might do things differently, but damn it. When you're subordinate,
Speaker 1: you're subortinate. For a reason, he's the boss. President Trump
Speaker 1: is the boss. Marco Rubio has to flow with what
Speaker 1: he wants. When Marco Rubio gets into the presidency, if
Speaker 1: that ever happens, he might do things differently. But as
Speaker 1: long as he has to answer to that man, he's
Speaker 1: gonna have to capitulate, at least to some degree to
Speaker 1: what the man wants. I watch y'all going off about
Speaker 1: Trump going at the president of Ukraine when they were
Speaker 1: in the office, in the Oval office. That's what Ruby,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do. Stand up and go off to
Speaker 1: the president, right in front of the cameras, y'all are reaching.
Speaker 1: When you're the subordinate, you can make suggestions, but ultimately
Speaker 1: you have to capitulate to the person in charge period.
Speaker 1: Y'all know that, which makes what was going on yesterday
Speaker 1: or the other day with Van Holland grandstanding