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Speaker 2: This morning, Tehran has a new list of demands for
Speaker 2: the US to meet, before Aroan says it would open
Speaker 2: the strait of her moves. Even as Iran and Oman
Speaker 2: signal they're closer to a deal now, Ron says America
Speaker 2: needs to quote correct its behavior, as Vice President Jady
Speaker 2: Vance says there's progress, but it isn't over.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to remind people that we're really in the
Speaker 5: middle of the game here. This thing is not over.
Speaker 5: It's obviously not at the beginning. We're in the middle
Speaker 5: of the game, and we're applying a whole host of tools, diplomatic, economic,
Speaker 5: military tools, to ensure that we get the best outcome
Speaker 5: for the American people. I feel quite confident we will
Speaker 5: get there, but we're still a bit in the middle
Speaker 5: of the game.
Speaker 6: Vice President of Fox News.
Speaker 7: We are joined now by Bloomberg News White House correspondent
Speaker 7: Skylard Woodhouse and by Bloomberg News Middle East correspond Abirabu
Speaker 7: omar Ber.
Speaker 6: Let me start with you.
Speaker 7: And pick up on the metaphor they're used by the
Speaker 7: Vice President that we're in the middle of this game.
Speaker 7: Get us up to speed on what's happened here. Recently,
Speaker 7: we have an attack in Saudi Arabia on Saudi Ramco's
Speaker 7: jazz An oil refinery. Abu Dhabi's National Oil Companies and
Speaker 7: missiles targeted one of its vessels while transiting Hormuz on Saturday.
Speaker 7: It has been another busy weekend, providing the backdrop to
Speaker 7: this conversation about a potential conversation here between the US
Speaker 7: and Iran.
Speaker 8: Yeah, good morning, guys.
Speaker 9: A busy week.
Speaker 8: As a matter of fact, we've been reporting on this
Speaker 8: deal between Oman and Iron that was taking place, or
Speaker 8: the discussions about this deal to essentially re opened the
Speaker 8: strait of her moves. But a few caveats to bear
Speaker 8: in mind here from the Iranian side, they say that
Speaker 8: this reopening is temporary. They also added their own caveats,
Speaker 8: saying that in this temporary agreement, they're not going to
Speaker 8: allow US and Israeli flag chips to pass through the
Speaker 8: Strait of Hermos and they will start charging tolls to
Speaker 8: countries that they deem hostile, and so a lot of
Speaker 8: traders had viewed that term hostile as referring to countries
Speaker 8: from the GCC. And then over the weekend, as you mentioned, David,
Speaker 8: we saw an ADNOC flagged carrier that is the national
Speaker 8: oil company in Abu Dhabi being hit. ADNOCK reported that
Speaker 8: one fatality had happened and over a dozen injuries there.
Speaker 8: And then we also saw that the Hawthies in Sadi
Speaker 8: Arabia earlier had claimed that they attacked an Aramco facility
Speaker 8: in Jizan. Aromko did not respond to Bloomberg requests for comment,
Speaker 8: but they did confirm that there was a fire at
Speaker 8: an Oromko facility. So you're seeing this escalation in the
Speaker 8: region over and over really, and then no resolution site
Speaker 8: and this deal that we've been talking about about the
Speaker 8: reopening of the Street of Her Moves or the interim
Speaker 8: reopening of the Street of Her Moves. That really is
Speaker 8: all what it's about right now. We're not talking about
Speaker 8: a return to the MoU. We're not talking about a
Speaker 8: return to those major concessions that were reached in Switzerland.
Speaker 8: Some hardliners in Iran, to be sure, are saying that
Speaker 8: the US needs to compensate Iran. And then we saw
Speaker 8: a return to those concessions, including the blocked assets, the
Speaker 8: frozen the oil sanctions as well being lifted. But that
Speaker 8: is not the official line that we're getting from the
Speaker 8: diplomats or the officials in Iran that we've been hearing
Speaker 8: from since the beginning of this war. That includes the
Speaker 8: Foreign Minister, that includes the spokesperson for the Foreign ministry.
Speaker 8: And so it looks like it calms down a little
Speaker 8: bit and then escalates again. But one thing is for
Speaker 8: sure here I was listening to Vice President jade Van speaking.
Speaker 8: Iran maintains that Washington is not a part of those discussions,
Speaker 8: despite what we've heard from President Trump and the Vice
Speaker 8: President about them being part of those discussions. Iran maintains
Speaker 8: that mediators, assumingly guitar at this point are the ones
Speaker 8: that are delivering the messages. We also understand that Qatar
Speaker 8: is doing its own draft to start mediating to have
Speaker 8: those wider discussions, but for the time being, hermuse stas paralyzed.
Speaker 8: Pretty much, attacks continue to happen, and we don't have
Speaker 8: a formalized draft between Ron and Roman about that deal.
Speaker 2: Skyler, I want to ask you about exactly that. It
Speaker 2: seems like the US is saying they're monitoring talks, and
Speaker 2: you're getting that messaging from the White House. But folks
Speaker 2: I've talked to and the reporting says they don't seem
Speaker 2: to be in the room. Is the US involved? It
Speaker 2: seems at this point it's pretty much a bypartist a
Speaker 2: bilateral discussion, excuse me, between Iran and Oman. And also
Speaker 2: some of these lists of demands that you heard of
Speaker 2: Beer going through a list of the US naval blockade,
Speaker 2: withdraw the US military reparations, release of frozen Iranian assets.
Speaker 2: Those seem like non starters for the US. What does
Speaker 2: the White House do with all this?
Speaker 10: Yeah, good morning, guys. I mean, look, these talks are
Speaker 10: extremely fragile, and since this war started, that is exactly
Speaker 10: what we've seen. There's just been a continuing of being
Speaker 10: up and down. Obviously, the president wants to make it
Speaker 10: appear that things are going well, that talks are going well,
Speaker 10: or that things are potentially moving along, as there are
Speaker 10: a lot of rough patches happening right now. You know,
Speaker 10: what we've been, what we've seen in reporting and Bloomberg's
Speaker 10: own reporting as well, is that, you know, the president
Speaker 10: feels a bit boxed in right now and is really
Speaker 10: sort of trying to navigate what his next step is.
Speaker 10: And as he listens to his advisors, whether that's a
Speaker 10: Secretary of State Mark or Rubio, Vice President Jadvance, or
Speaker 10: Defense Secretary p Hegseeth, you know, it's really raising questions
Speaker 10: as to what is the goal right now, especially as
Speaker 10: it seems that these conversations are really not going you know, well,
Speaker 10: especially as we you know, learn and as Aaron you know,
Speaker 10: says that the US is sort of not really involved
Speaker 10: right now, and it's raising questions on well, who is
Speaker 10: the US really talking to right now in this war?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I want.
Speaker 6: To play a bit more sound here.
Speaker 7: The Vice president in conversation with Kaylan mc and any,
Speaker 7: the former Press secretory now on Fox News, talking about
Speaker 7: the White House's expectations.
Speaker 6: Let's take a listen.
Speaker 2: The Iranians, through different methods, have broadcasted that they look
Speaker 2: to tighten their grip on the Strait of Horror Moves.
Speaker 11: So in a theoretical deal, what would an acceptable status.
Speaker 9: Quo be for the strait.
Speaker 5: Well, our expectations, you're going to see the same amount
Speaker 5: of oil and gas come out of the Golf that
Speaker 5: you saw before the conflict started. That is what the
Speaker 5: Iranians have told us that they are going to do.
Speaker 5: That's what the entire Golf coalition wants to do as well.
Speaker 5: But you know, we don't trust.
Speaker 10: We verify.
Speaker 5: We actually look not at people's words, but at people's deeds.
Speaker 5: You see some people within the Iranian system, of course,
Speaker 5: talk about tolling. The Ranians have told us they have
Speaker 5: no plans to toll the Straight of Horror moves. But again,
Speaker 5: we're going to see what actions actually happen.
Speaker 7: You're on that notion of looking at people's words and
Speaker 7: trusting but verifying. You mentioned the Iridian foreign minister, and
Speaker 7: Bloomberg has reported that he said that were there to
Speaker 7: be some sort of agreement, we would not see kind
Speaker 7: of an instantaneous return to the level of energy passing
Speaker 7: through that strait that we saw before this war began.
Speaker 7: Could you talk a bit more about that kind of
Speaker 7: the White House's expectations for normality, which seem increasingly kind
Speaker 7: of pie in the sky in light of what we've
Speaker 7: been through here over the last five or six months.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right, David, And I mean, you don't have
Speaker 8: to go by the words of and I know this
Speaker 8: will probably sound surprising, but you don't have to go
Speaker 8: by the words of either part of the warring parties. Essentially,
Speaker 8: traders don't even assume that this is going to be happening,
Speaker 8: or that this is even a realistic situation, purely due
Speaker 8: to the physicality of getting those stuck oil parrels that
Speaker 8: are in the strait of removes. So there's a reality
Speaker 8: situation here to be confronted once this happens, and then
Speaker 8: we're not even talking about a full reopen of the
Speaker 8: strait of Her moves. From the Iranian side, the US
Speaker 8: side seems more and more and more optimistic about once
Speaker 8: a deal is finalized or once Adala is here, that
Speaker 8: we're going to see the Strait of Her moves immediately
Speaker 8: all of a sudden open and all these oil barrels
Speaker 8: start making their way through the globe. You're talking about
Speaker 8: countries in the region who've had their infrastructure damage. You're
Speaker 8: talking about attacks on energy infrastructure that is still happening
Speaker 8: up until the early hours of the morning. And so
Speaker 8: there is the physical aspect of actually getting those oil
Speaker 8: barrels across. I was talking to a lot of ship
Speaker 8: owners and a lot of traders over the past week,
Speaker 8: and they confirm that even if there was an immediate
Speaker 8: reopening of Her Moves, let's say tomorrow, theoretically, of course,
Speaker 8: it'll take weeks in a best case scenario, if not months,
Speaker 8: to actually start seeing a normal trickle of oil barrels
Speaker 8: through the Strait of Her Moves. And that is not
Speaker 8: a base case scenario. David Dright, because we expect that
Speaker 8: this conflict will be back and forth for a while
Speaker 8: to come, especially with Iran's waking up to this fact
Speaker 8: at the start of this war, that it can assert
Speaker 8: dominance over the Strait of Hermoves and it doesn't have
Speaker 8: to hit hard, right, the mere threat of Irwan sending
Speaker 8: a drone to a ship or a vessel that is
Speaker 8: passing through the Strait of Removes is already causing enough
Speaker 8: jitters in the market and causing ships to really stay
Speaker 8: still until they're sure they can move across the waterway.
Speaker 8: And so we're not even expecting the immediate reopening of
Speaker 8: the Strait of Removes because this is, according to the
Speaker 8: Iranian side, not what is going to happen.
Speaker 2: Skyler in that vein, it's been interesting to watch the
Speaker 2: messaging from the White House from the beginning of the war,
Speaker 2: which is we're going to win, We're going to do this,
Speaker 2: when this to trying to almost redefine what a win
Speaker 2: looks like. In that vein, the Treasury Secretary Scott Besson
Speaker 2: talked to a local Arizona journalist and was saying, among
Speaker 2: other things, well, the Strait of her moves is going
Speaker 2: to become irrelevant in two years because we'll have other
Speaker 2: ways to transport this energy. Overall, is that what you're
Speaker 2: seeing from the White House is more of a recognition
Speaker 2: is they can't move the needle as much as they
Speaker 2: want to, so they're moving the messaging. And do you
Speaker 2: think that's going to be successful, especially ahead of the midterms,
Speaker 2: where things like gas prices are really going to matter,
Speaker 2: and they're really going to matter to this president.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well, look, they want to paint a pretty picture
Speaker 10: and they want it to seem like they're in control
Speaker 10: of everything and that things are going well in their
Speaker 10: favor as they launched this war, especially as the November
Speaker 10: midterms creep up, and you know, American voters have not
Speaker 10: really polls have shown that they are not highly supportive
Speaker 10: of what the president decided to do in regards to
Speaker 10: the war with Irad. So look, what we've seen throughout
Speaker 10: the messaging from the Trump administration really since the president
Speaker 10: came returned back to office, is that, you know, they
Speaker 10: are seeking other ways. So you know, when trade deals
Speaker 10: were being disrupted left and right, the messaging was that,
Speaker 10: you know, we're we're starting new trade deals with other
Speaker 10: countries or we're going to have trade deals coming in
Speaker 10: other ways to offset those long standing trade deals that
Speaker 10: were disrupted. So we've seen that sort of messaging before
Speaker 10: that they pivot is something out to really amplify and
Speaker 10: to cover what is currently going on. And really only
Speaker 10: time will tell to see how that really resonates with voters,
Speaker 10: especially as these midterms near.
Speaker 2: I mean, when we talk about opening the straight there
Speaker 2: were some reports this week that Iran might be speaking
Speaker 2: to or might be willing to speak to the EU
Speaker 2: to come up with some sort of mind clearing capacity.
Speaker 2: If you remember we've talked about before, the US kind
Speaker 2: of outsourced that capacity to NATO about ten years ago,
Speaker 2: So most of those mind sweepers are within the NATO realm,
Speaker 2: within the Europeans. Have you heard anything more? Does that
Speaker 2: seem realistic? And what is the status of those minds?
Speaker 2: Is that something that's really front of mind for all
Speaker 2: these shippers and people you were just talking to.
Speaker 8: One percent, I mean, that is one of their biggest concerns, right,
Speaker 8: because there is the aspect of trying to move their
Speaker 8: way through the strait of her moves without having the
Speaker 8: risk of being hit. But then there's also the risk
Speaker 8: of mining. And we've recently reported that Iran might be
Speaker 8: softening it stands when it comes to involving EU nations.
Speaker 8: If you remember Christina, about a month or so ago,
Speaker 8: there was this little back and forth between Iranian officials
Speaker 8: and President Macom specifically in France, who said that France
Speaker 8: would be one of the countries that is willing to
Speaker 8: come in d mind and the response from the Iranian
Speaker 8: side was vehement refusal.
Speaker 2: To this.
Speaker 8: But we've reported, citing our own sources recently about a
Speaker 8: week or so ago, that Iran might be holding discussions
Speaker 8: with EU nations to help the d mining processes in
Speaker 8: the Strait of her Moods. And while that is a
Speaker 8: positive signal, of course, the fact that Iran might be
Speaker 8: softening it stands we're still talking about a deal between
Speaker 8: itself and Romain without Washington involved, with Washington or the
Speaker 8: United States still having its naval blockade in place, so
Speaker 8: a third party that is important, and all of this
Speaker 8: is not included in the discussions again according to the
Speaker 8: Iranian side, So we have to get over the hurdle
Speaker 8: of getting through these negotiations with Arman and what exactly
Speaker 8: the mechanism will look like before we get into any
Speaker 8: kind of discussion about removing those minds. Iran is keeping
Speaker 8: a really hard line about its dominance over the Strait
Speaker 8: of Removes and the mechanism sounds really complicated, but everything
Speaker 8: around it just suggests that Iran wants to maintain its dominance,
Speaker 8: and it looks like for the people who have skin
Speaker 8: in the game, for the ship owners who have to
Speaker 8: make their way through the Strait of Remous, they are
Speaker 8: seemingly tilting more to listening to the Iranian side. They've
Speaker 8: been seeking permission from the Iranian side to be able
Speaker 8: to make their way through the very crucial waterway, which, yes,
Speaker 8: according to the US US officials, is not going to
Speaker 8: be crucial in the next couple of years. That argument,
Speaker 8: according to many people, is not the base case scenario. Again,
Speaker 8: it might lose significance, but it will not be insignificant.
Speaker 6: We're always good to talk to you. Thank you very much.
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Speaker 9: All right, thank you both.
Speaker 6: Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend.
Speaker 7: Right after this, Tarzan Hailey Stevens of Michigan joins us now,
Speaker 7: fresh off that Democratic primary she ran for Senative course
Speaker 7: finished second in that primary, with fewer than twenty thousand
Speaker 7: votes separating her from the winner. Abdulah Sayad, thank you
Speaker 7: very much for being here. Great to have you with us,
Speaker 7: and the message very much is was certainly on the
Speaker 7: heels of that campaign.
Speaker 6: Unity among the Democratic Party.
Speaker 7: And I wonder, Serf, what your life looks like in
Speaker 7: terms of politicking here in the week, said, will we
Speaker 7: see you campaigning with the Democratic nominee here in the
Speaker 7: days ahead?
Speaker 11: Well, I can tell you I'm still in my House position, right. So,
Speaker 11: I'm a Democrat who flipped a long held Republican seat
Speaker 11: in twenty eighteen. I held the seat in twenty twenty
Speaker 11: with Trump on the bail, and it was a district
Speaker 11: that had voted for him actually back in the sixteen election.
Speaker 11: And I'm really focused on the House. You know, I've
Speaker 11: talked to Democratic House leadership Hakeem Jeffries, Pete Aguilar, and
Speaker 11: I am very eager to to just flip some of
Speaker 11: these congressional seats like Christina Hines in Michigan's tenth district,
Speaker 11: you know, Congresswoman Hillary Skolton out in Grand Rapids. You know,
Speaker 11: it's amazing that we've got her leadership out there, and
Speaker 11: we've got another seat in Michigan's fourth district, you know,
Speaker 11: Sean McCann. These are good, just middle of the road,
Speaker 11: common sense Dems really excited to be sleeves rolled up
Speaker 11: alongside them, and the party knows you know, all the nominees,
Speaker 11: the whole ticket knows. You know, here in Michigan, I'm
Speaker 11: going to do whatever they want as I finish out
Speaker 11: the remainder of my congressional term. And I know that,
Speaker 11: you know, Abdul right, we campaigned against one another for
Speaker 11: a good year and a half. So I don't you know,
Speaker 11: maybe he's sick of hearing my voice.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I'm just kidding around.
Speaker 7: But but you know, he hasn't asked you to join him.
Speaker 7: He hasn't made that overture yet.
Speaker 11: Look, I'm not trying to draw him up drama, I
Speaker 11: don't you know. I'm Look, we did a big unity breakfast.
Speaker 11: There was you know, my friend Keith Williams was there.
Speaker 11: He's the chair of the Michigan Democratic Party Black Caucus.
Speaker 11: You know, I'm really proud to you know, I've had
Speaker 11: his support in my race. But we all know, you know,
Speaker 11: we're team them, So you know they're going to be
Speaker 11: figuring it out. They've got a you know, a quick runway,
Speaker 11: and I'm I'm not I think America, truthfully, if I
Speaker 11: can just be candidly, I think people here in Michigan
Speaker 11: and across this country, they are just so sick of
Speaker 11: this negative, nasty, constant campaigning, but hurt if you don't win.
Speaker 11: I mean, I've had a great ride. I mean I honestly,
Speaker 11: I was eighteen years old and knocked doors for the
Speaker 11: Democratic Party. You know, I was motivated to run because
Speaker 11: I saw Trump winning sixteen. I was working in an
Speaker 11: R and D lab and I'm thinking, oh my gosh,
Speaker 11: there goes the scientific research budget, and so I put
Speaker 11: up my hand for a long shot run for Congress.
Speaker 11: I won. You know, I want a six way primary,
Speaker 11: seven thousand votes similar to this one. Who are those
Speaker 11: you know, fifteen thousand, seven thousand people in these you know,
Speaker 11: in these primaries. I don't know if I'll ever know,
Speaker 11: but you know, I'm proud that my name and my
Speaker 11: message was out there. I'm proud to be a Democrat.
Speaker 11: And certainly some of the differences between my former Democratic
Speaker 11: opponent and they're out there. They're on full display. Everyone
Speaker 11: knows that what was said in the primary was said.
Speaker 11: You know, I am a passionate, you know, industrial policy
Speaker 11: geek Democrat. I'm a Zionist. You know, I'm certainly going
Speaker 11: to continue to say that loudly and proudly particularly as
Speaker 11: I'm leaving the halls of power. And I think that
Speaker 11: many fellow Zionists and both parties, and maybe in that
Speaker 11: independent column, you know, they've got to know that they're
Speaker 11: protected and that their security is important as well.
Speaker 2: But do you think that will be an issue for
Speaker 2: your former opponents you refer to him in the general?
Speaker 9: I mean this is from the New York Times.
Speaker 2: Some Democrats who supported you are clearly reluctant to rally
Speaker 2: behind Alsaiahed because many Jewish Democrats in particular, were dismayed
Speaker 2: about the way he criticized the Israeli government and APAC
Speaker 2: committees who super pac spent a lot of money to
Speaker 2: support you. When it comes to the general, are you
Speaker 2: confident that not just your former opponent, but several of
Speaker 2: these either self identified democratic socialists or more left leaning
Speaker 2: opponents can swing to the middle and get those middle
Speaker 2: of the road independent voters, which are really the only
Speaker 2: votes up for grabs in so many places that are
Speaker 2: so close.
Speaker 11: Well, I hope you don't mind. I'm drinking my cola.
Speaker 11: You know, it's the good stuff, right, But it's a
Speaker 11: good question, you know, I think the nominee is going
Speaker 11: to be able to you know, he knows what he
Speaker 11: was doing, just as I knew what I was doing.
Speaker 11: I mean, I can only speak to you know, my
Speaker 11: campaign right because I was living and breathing it. I mean,
Speaker 11: I don't want to get in it all. I'm not
Speaker 11: a big speculator of somebody else's internal thinking. I think
Speaker 11: we get into a lot of that and it gets negative.
Speaker 11: But you know, I was. My beliefs were fully on display.
Speaker 11: I was not hiding from them. You know, I want
Speaker 11: a to stage solution. I you know, want a Palestinian state.
Speaker 11: I want dignity for Lebanon and Syria. And I also,
Speaker 11: you know, want to see a Jewish state that is
Speaker 11: deeply persecuted continue to be supported. I'm really honestly proud
Speaker 11: of my record in the Congress, you know, on these
Speaker 11: Middle East issues. I'm co chair of the Congressional Task
Speaker 11: Force on Hostages alongside French Hill, who's a Republican from Arkansas.
Speaker 11: We coordinated regularly with the hostages held in the families
Speaker 11: of the hostages held in the Hamasa tunnels. That was
Speaker 11: a brutal situation. You know, Look, all Americans want long
Speaker 11: term peace. I don't think that's you know, hard to
Speaker 11: come by, and you know, again, I don't know who
Speaker 11: these handful of thousands of voters are, you know, in
Speaker 11: this primary. The way I look at the primary, I
Speaker 11: think abdul one he got more votes, and Democrats like Democrats,
Speaker 11: you know. And then in terms of this general election,
Speaker 11: you know, he's got all his you know, back the office.
Speaker 11: You know, political wizards and people who are going to
Speaker 11: give him advice, and he's going to have advice. And
Speaker 11: you know, Gary Peters, Alyssa Slock and you know Alyssa
Speaker 11: Slock and our senator soon to be senior senator. She's
Speaker 11: going to be campaigning alongside of Duel. You know, she's
Speaker 11: you know now going to be our senior senator. And
Speaker 11: that's just you know, I'm on my way out, and
Speaker 11: you know, of the office for that I love to hold.
Speaker 11: But I'm okay with that. And I'm going to help
Speaker 11: the congressional tickets and do whatever anyone else wants me
Speaker 11: to do. You know, I'm just happy to be on
Speaker 11: the team. Honestly, I love this country. I love American democracy.
Speaker 11: I love fighting for people to make government work for them.
Speaker 11: You know, it's unbelievable how many people need access to
Speaker 11: social security, disability and Medicaid and these programs that you
Speaker 11: know everyone wants to be fair and accessible, full funding
Speaker 11: for special education. Right, sorry to go on.
Speaker 7: But ok, we're gonna let yeah, I'm gonna have a
Speaker 7: swig of my beverage of choice, and then we're gonna
Speaker 7: bring it out of here's question.
Speaker 6: Happy, let me says a question?
Speaker 7: Right, all right?
Speaker 9: Obvious on you so conmis women.
Speaker 12: The race had barely been called, and you were out
Speaker 12: of the gate endorsing doctor l saied and you're on
Speaker 12: television having your morning coke. Uh uh, making the case
Speaker 12: for him and the Democrats. But this is one of
Speaker 12: the roughest Senate primaries I've ever seen among Democrats. It
Speaker 12: was personally rough. It obviously Israel and God's is a
Speaker 12: tough issue. I sometimes find supporters have a harder time
Speaker 12: coming into the fold than the actual candidate who lost.
Speaker 12: Are you confident the entire Democratic coalition can show up
Speaker 12: after such a rough primary?
Speaker 11: You know, I just am set in the tone for myself,
Speaker 11: okay and the people around me. I mean, I will
Speaker 11: say that there's a lot of energy for Democrats right now.
Speaker 11: You know, we've got Jocelyn Benson as our gubernatorial candidate,
Speaker 11: and she's doing a great job, and you know, folks
Speaker 11: are excited about her. I mean there's some just you know,
Speaker 11: general you know, enthusiasm from Detroit to Muskegan and on.
Speaker 11: But I will tell you Abby, we call it pop
Speaker 11: in Michigan.
Speaker 12: Okay, I'm a good time and even if it's and look, I.
Speaker 11: Don't want to be all Pollyanna. I mean, politics is
Speaker 11: a blood sport. Okay. I knew what I was signing
Speaker 11: up for when I put up my hand to run
Speaker 11: for in this primary. I knew it was going to
Speaker 11: be a primary Congresswoman Hillary Scolton and I, you know,
Speaker 11: spent a lot of time chewing on it. She was
Speaker 11: a very close ally of mine in this race. She
Speaker 11: was with me on election night, and you know, we
Speaker 11: knew it was And then she said, Haley, the reason
Speaker 11: you do these primaries this. I've had a few of them, Okay.
Speaker 11: I had won with Andy Levin in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 11: and that one was major. I mean, oh my gosh,
Speaker 11: the sign on of Michigan democratic politics. Now that one
Speaker 11: I won by twenty points. I mean, it's this is
Speaker 11: just American democracy. But Hillary did say to me, she
Speaker 11: said look, you know how to do these primaries. You
Speaker 11: know how to bring people together when it's over. So
Speaker 11: I'm just doing it in the in the Haley way.
Speaker 11: I guess in my way not to talk about myself
Speaker 11: in third person.
Speaker 9: You know, I mean, I'm just David does it all
Speaker 9: the time. It's fine.
Speaker 2: I come in and you know it's it's David girl
Speaker 2: wants this. David girl wants that.
Speaker 11: Thank you, guys.
Speaker 7: Let me look the question, let me look ahead to
Speaker 7: the challenge that doctor Side's going to sign's going to
Speaker 7: face here. And that's when Mike Rogers, the formerngressman, and
Speaker 7: he talked about sort of how he sees this campaign
Speaker 7: playing on. Let's play a little sound for you've been
Speaker 7: I'll ask you about sort of the path forward here
Speaker 7: vis A viva comeing on.
Speaker 13: To the vast majority of people across Michigan who do
Speaker 13: not want to throw their support behind a campaign filled
Speaker 13: with anger, divisiveness, calls for violence, and the views that
Speaker 13: are out of touch with your values, Well, you have
Speaker 13: a home with us. The fight is far greater than
Speaker 13: just left versus right. The fight is for the very
Speaker 13: soul of our nation.
Speaker 7: They're the congressman, former Congressmans sitting on a couch with
Speaker 7: his wife making that case. How do you respond to
Speaker 7: that the way that Republicans are painting this is an
Speaker 7: example of there being an extremist candidate versus the more
Speaker 7: traditional American candidate. I mean, there's a lot of invective
Speaker 7: and insinuation here in the comments we've heard from yes,
Speaker 7: Congressman Rogers, but from the President as well. What is
Speaker 7: your counsel for how Democrats and Michigan should respond to that?
Speaker 11: You know, look, the parties exist, and Mike is in
Speaker 11: the Maga Republican wing, and he's got to answer for
Speaker 11: how he's going to lower costs for people, how he's
Speaker 11: going to deal with their rising healthcare costs. I'm going
Speaker 11: to tell you right now, everywhere I turn, I'm meeting
Speaker 11: you know, amazing Michiganders. I still am because they just
Speaker 11: saw me all over their TV, you know, for the
Speaker 11: last handful of months. And there's joy here for sure.
Speaker 11: You know, Detroit's on the rise, Motorcity's on the rise.
Speaker 11: But folks are you know, they're getting less money? You know,
Speaker 11: I really mean that. I talk to people who've been
Speaker 11: unemployed on occasion. Actually, there was a girl who just
Speaker 11: brought me door dash and we had a whole big
Speaker 11: comfab last night about her situation. She was all happy,
Speaker 11: she was she's resilient, but she's like, you know, I've
Speaker 11: been out of work for a year and she had
Speaker 11: a stroke, you know, a couple of years ago, in
Speaker 11: twenty twenty one, and just trying to kind of connect
Speaker 11: in And that's not I know, that's her individual story,
Speaker 11: but that individual story matters so very much, right I mean,
Speaker 11: I mean, and that's always what I tried to do
Speaker 11: as a rep, is just you know, help that one person,
Speaker 11: you know, and do it in ones and twos and networks.
Speaker 11: So I think when you ask me that question about Rogers,
Speaker 11: he's got to figure out what case he's making two
Speaker 11: people on what he's going to do for them. I'm
Speaker 11: not out here trying to give him advice. I you know,
Speaker 11: that's not my industry or my profession really, but you know,
Speaker 11: I did want to answer, and you know, a duel
Speaker 11: has come out of a major rough primary, and you know,
Speaker 11: and look, he's going to be out there making you know,
Speaker 11: his case to voters. To it seems like he knew
Speaker 11: how to do it because he just came out of
Speaker 11: this big one. So I don't you know, and and
Speaker 11: you know, there's certainly some questions and voters will start
Speaker 11: voting in about a month's time. We get early vote here,
Speaker 11: so we'll see and you know, pay attention to the
Speaker 11: votes that get cast. You know, we just have so
Speaker 11: much prognosticating in American politics. I mean people were calling
Speaker 11: this one. I voted on my at my polling location
Speaker 11: on primary day, and they were calling my race as
Speaker 11: I was coming out. Now, there was a swarm of press.
Speaker 11: You know, Congress over you're down fifteen points.
Speaker 2: What are you going to do?
Speaker 11: I said, well, you know, let's just get you know,
Speaker 11: I'm in this mode. You know, Abdul says he's not
Speaker 11: a socialist. I condemn socialism. You know this and that again,
Speaker 11: not trying to I don't really know Rogers. Okay, he
Speaker 11: went to Florida. I never served with him. Seems like
Speaker 11: he made a bunch of money. He's, like you said,
Speaker 11: he's sitting on the couch. So you know, maybe he's
Speaker 11: trying to go to the Senate.
Speaker 2: Now all right, well let me ask you about what
Speaker 2: you just referenced where you're saying, you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: a socialist. You said, Mike Rogers needs to decide what
Speaker 2: he's for. But there's a little bit of that within
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party right now. Right we've got this next
Speaker 2: phase and the progressive versus monitoratet fight that's coming up.
Speaker 9: Particularly in Wisconsin.
Speaker 2: You've been talking to us about how long you've been
Speaker 2: in democratic politics, all your successes. You flipped the seat,
Speaker 2: you served your constituent, but you lost. Do you think
Speaker 2: that the Democratic Party is really taking these lessons to
Speaker 2: heart or do you think they're continually making the same mistakes,
Speaker 2: especially in these primaries.
Speaker 11: I wouldn't go into any of that. I mean, honestly,
Speaker 11: I think that we've just got this incredible, you know
Speaker 11: race that was just had. I think my coalition is awesome.
Speaker 11: I'm really proud of it. You know, I won Detroit
Speaker 11: by sixty seven percent of the vote. But I wouldn't
Speaker 11: be getting into mistakes. I mean, people just want healthcare, okay.
Speaker 11: I mean I want to fix government. I want to
Speaker 11: make government services work better for people. I was chief
Speaker 11: of staff on the US Auto Rescue. It was an
Speaker 11: emergency situation. My goodness, gracious, that worked really well. You know,
Speaker 11: an eighty billion dollar managed bankruptcy of General Motors and Chrysler,
Speaker 11: saving two hundred thousand Michigan jobs, of which we were
Speaker 11: repaid on interest as the you know government, as the
Speaker 11: American taxpayer was repaid on interest. I'm looking at our
Speaker 11: debt and our deficit, and I'm thinking, okay, well, why
Speaker 11: is our debt growing faster than our gross domestic product?
Speaker 11: Why is it growing faster than our economy? You know,
Speaker 11: I want to lessen our dependence on China to create
Speaker 11: jobs and lower costs. We got to focus on critical minerals.
Speaker 11: I did that with the Chips Act. You know, I'm
Speaker 11: a voice in the Democratic Party saying those things, and
Speaker 11: I think sometimes I get while you're asking the question,
Speaker 11: but one person doesn't define the Democratic Party. We are
Speaker 11: a big group, just I mean, the Republicans are a
Speaker 11: big group, and then there's this independent chunk just kind
Speaker 11: of swings and we got to I mean, honestly, at
Speaker 11: the end of my primary, I was saying, no American
Speaker 11: is my enemy. I mean truly, I just look, I'm
Speaker 11: there in the Congress. I mean I used to talk.
Speaker 11: I talk to everybody. I'm you know, except for the
Speaker 11: one from Georgia. Okay, but I don't want to poker
Speaker 11: because she she's tempestuous and she resigned, okay, but everyone
Speaker 11: else was by and large, you could talk to him.
Speaker 11: Duly elected member of Congress. I mean I came in,
Speaker 11: I don't know, I'd never served in Congress, and I
Speaker 11: got my first bill signed for early childhood education in Science, Technology, Engineering,
Speaker 11: and Mathematics Christmas Eve twenty nineteen, signed by Trump a
Speaker 11: week after the first teachmn. He still signed it. Hey
Speaker 11: that's America baby.
Speaker 6: There, that's America baby. I think is a good wed
Speaker 6: coming on.
Speaker 9: Please enjoy some pop for us.
Speaker 2: I think we've just got a coffee and water here
Speaker 2: this morning.
Speaker 9: Sures to you, and good luck with everything.
Speaker 6: Thank you so much to speak with you.
Speaker 9: Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend.
Speaker 7: Right after this, we back the Bloomber this weekend. I'm
Speaker 7: David Gerro with Christina Raffini, and this week parts of
Speaker 7: Europe will be treated to a rare celestial event that
Speaker 7: has not happened in nearly three decades.
Speaker 9: Should I sing?
Speaker 2: Shouldy to sing?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 6: Totally? Eclips of the heart, I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 9: I value our audience more than that, all right. Eight totals,
Speaker 9: We don't.
Speaker 6: Have the riots. It's the main issue totally.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure I'd be on pitch and effort to matter.
Speaker 2: But a total solar eclipse will darken the afternoon sky
Speaker 2: across Spain, Iceland and Greenland, with many other cities witnessing
Speaker 2: the event joining us now.
Speaker 9: I'm Abelle.
Speaker 2: She's an astronomer with the Royal Observatory of Greenwich right
Speaker 2: now on the Spanish island of Majorca, which should be
Speaker 2: right in the path of this eclipse. Are you as
Speaker 2: excited as our producer Patrick Becker.
Speaker 9: Who was so excited about this.
Speaker 2: We're doing a whole segment on it, but we're very
Speaker 2: happy to talk to you.
Speaker 9: Why do people get excited about it?
Speaker 14: Well, I don't know how excited Patrick isba I would
Speaker 14: probably argue I'm more excited right if it's a competition.
Speaker 2: Oh, I just heard take that in my ear from
Speaker 2: the control room.
Speaker 9: So what are you expecting to see? How big is
Speaker 9: this going to be?
Speaker 2: I mean when we had one of these over the
Speaker 2: US years ago, people kind of lost their minds. Are
Speaker 2: you expecting Are Europeans more chill about this or are
Speaker 2: you expecting a similar reaction?
Speaker 14: I don't know if Europeans are more chill. I feel
Speaker 14: like the reaction in the US was huge because that
Speaker 14: was a really important event. So many people, I think
Speaker 14: forty four million people saw the total sodar eclipse of
Speaker 14: the eighth of April or was it twenty twenty four,
Speaker 14: two years ago, and because that was such an event,
Speaker 14: it built up so much excitement that spread across the
Speaker 14: whole entire world. That definitely over here in Europe we
Speaker 14: caught it. And now two years on it's our turn,
Speaker 14: and you've sort of sowed the seeds for all the
Speaker 14: excitement as well, and so we're even more excited, I think,
Speaker 14: especially because US in Europe we've not seen a total
Speaker 14: solar eclipse since nineteen ninety nine. This is a huge event.
Speaker 14: We are so excited and we are not going to
Speaker 14: see a total sodar eclipse again in the UK for
Speaker 14: sure until twenty ninety. So this is a massive deal.
Speaker 14: In Palma, all the shops are selling soda eclipse glasses.
Speaker 14: There's information about it everywhere. Yeah, so we are very
Speaker 14: very excited.
Speaker 7: Talk to us a bit about totality and what's that
Speaker 7: that's like. I mean talking to friends and family who
Speaker 7: experienced the last time around here in the States. It
Speaker 7: sounded like a pretty magical couple of minutes.
Speaker 14: Yeah, no, for sure, it's totally magical after over a
Speaker 14: couple of hours. It depends on each clipse. The moon
Speaker 14: moves across the surf the disc of the Sun in
Speaker 14: the sky until if you're lucky, if you're in the
Speaker 14: path of totality, it will completely cover the Sun. Which
Speaker 14: is such a special moment because as well on the
Speaker 14: planet Earth, we are unique in being able to experience
Speaker 14: these total soda eclipses. For example, Mars has got two moons,
Speaker 14: Phobos and Demos, and if they go in front of
Speaker 14: the Sun, they don't completely cover the surface of the Sun.
Speaker 14: They do these little transits of the Sun. We are
Speaker 14: just so lucky that our moon and our Sun appear
Speaker 14: to be the same size in the sky. Because the
Speaker 14: Moon is four hundred times smaller and also four hundred
Speaker 14: times closer, they almost perfectly match up. So it's extremely
Speaker 14: special and some people describe it as quite eerie. The
Speaker 14: animals can react because the sky will get darker even
Speaker 14: though it's the daytime, it's not the right time, and
Speaker 14: so it can sort of confuse the animals a little
Speaker 14: bit as well. And I mean it is just so
Speaker 14: exciting because we go about our day to day lives
Speaker 14: forgetting because it's so easy to forget. We're all so busy,
Speaker 14: we're also stressed forgetting that we are just on a
Speaker 14: ball of rock in space nearly thirteen thousand kilometers wide,
Speaker 14: going around a star that's one hundred and fifty million
Speaker 14: kilometers away. And when you know the Moon, the Earth,
Speaker 14: and the Sun all line up like this, you see
Speaker 14: it during totality, it can remind us what we are
Speaker 14: a part of.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's been kind of a good year
Speaker 2: for the Cosmos.
Speaker 9: It's been a good year for space. We've had some.
Speaker 2: Pop culture moments, We've had some new technology here in
Speaker 2: the as, We've had this private sector of space race
Speaker 2: get an excitement. You've studied this for a while. I'm
Speaker 2: sure it's ebbed and flow. Do you feel like these
Speaker 2: kind of events kind of renew interest in this field
Speaker 2: of study and make people excited to look outside our atmosphere?
Speaker 14: I absolutely agree. I mean, solar eclipses are an opportunity
Speaker 14: for everyone to appreciate the scale of the universe, the
Speaker 14: scale of space. What were to make us you stop
Speaker 14: and have a little look, and that's what makes it
Speaker 14: so exciting. Everyone can appreciate the eclipse. You don't need
Speaker 14: that many tools to see it. I mean you can
Speaker 14: use it. You can view an eclipse using a colander,
Speaker 14: using a pinhole projector to eclipse to see the eclipse.
Speaker 14: So it means everyone can see it, which is why
Speaker 14: it's just so exciting. But as well, in terms of science,
Speaker 14: eclipses offer a extremely unique opportunity to study the Sun
Speaker 14: that you wouldn't usually get and a lot of our
Speaker 14: understanding of science comes off the back of solar eclipses.
Speaker 14: For example, one of our first one of the first
Speaker 14: bits of evidence we had to back up part of
Speaker 14: Einstein's theory of general relativity was during a total solar
Speaker 14: eclipse in nineteen nineteen, where we were able to see
Speaker 14: that actually the light from the stars that were grazing
Speaker 14: the disc of the Sun were in fact bent around
Speaker 14: the mass of the Sun, and we wouldn't be able
Speaker 14: to see that during the day until in nineteen nineteen
Speaker 14: when the total solar eclipse blocked out the massive light
Speaker 14: of the Sun, and they were they allowed astronomers to
Speaker 14: see these points of light, these stars and see how
Speaker 14: they had slightly been moved because of the mass of
Speaker 14: the Sun. Total solo clips allowed us to discover the
Speaker 14: element helium, which gets its name from the Sun from
Speaker 14: the ancient Greek god Helios. And today, not today, sorry,
Speaker 14: next week Wednesday, twelfth of August, a NASA mission will
Speaker 14: be they're flying a jets to chase the shadow, the
Speaker 14: Moon's shadow across the Earth so that they can study
Speaker 14: totality for longer. And they will be studying the corona
Speaker 14: of the Sun because the outer atmosphere of the Sun,
Speaker 14: which is a very mysterious part of the Sun, because
Speaker 14: it's heated, superheated to over a million degrees, which is
Speaker 14: what we're not entirely sure how that happens when the
Speaker 14: surface of the Sun is.
Speaker 2: Just very Coolbelle, thank you very much for joining us.
Speaker 7: Enjoy totality, appreciate your time on this Sunday.
Speaker 4: Stay with us for more on Bloomberg this weekend.
Speaker 2: Right after this, Welcome back to Bloomberg this weekend or
Speaker 2: Bete Dubs.
Speaker 9: I'm Chris and Raffini with.
Speaker 2: David Gerra and Lisa Matteo has some stories we might
Speaker 2: have missed this week and Lisa try it again.
Speaker 9: No hot talks time hot dog.
Speaker 4: They're not doing hot dogs.
Speaker 11: Okay.
Speaker 4: How about concerts. You guys have been to a number
Speaker 4: of concerts. You pay a lot for tickets.
Speaker 9: I don't, which is why I don't go to a
Speaker 9: lot of them. They're so expensive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're expensive.
Speaker 9: Okay.
Speaker 4: So that's that's the kind of the crust of the story.
Speaker 4: So this is the Wall Street Journal. It says, artist, crowd, please,
Speaker 4: are twenty dollars tickets for shows. So it turns out
Speaker 4: artists like Coldplay, Olivia Rodrigo, they're offering these tickets that
Speaker 4: are like twenty bucks. That's great, Coldplay did. They're called
Speaker 4: Infinity tickets. Olivia Rodrigo called it silver Star tickets. Even
Speaker 4: Charlie XCX she's going to do something like that to
Speaker 4: keep the resellers away. Though there's certain rules you have
Speaker 4: to apply by Okay, the tickets have to be picked
Speaker 4: up at the box office. You gotta go, you gotta
Speaker 4: go there, and you don't know where you're gonna sit
Speaker 4: until the day you go there.
Speaker 9: So those are things.
Speaker 4: But they sell out fast, and that's that's something. But
Speaker 4: it's not new. I mean, kid Rock has been doing
Speaker 4: this Garth Brooks. The Rolling Stones have this program called
Speaker 4: Lucky Dip that they've been doing. You kind of help people,
Speaker 4: like they want them to enjoy their music, but they
Speaker 4: need to make it a little bit affordable too.
Speaker 7: At the same in my household, eager to see Livia
Speaker 7: Ordrigo playing at the Barkley Center in a few months.
Speaker 7: Look at the ticket prices seven thirty nine each, seven
Speaker 7: eighty six, eight fifty four. It's been a hard conversation
Speaker 7: to have for one ticket. And these are not great seats.
Speaker 7: There are seats within the arena. But I'm good to
Speaker 7: know about this.
Speaker 2: But this is the same thing with like World Cup prices,
Speaker 2: where you get these crazy fans that just can never
Speaker 2: see these games, and that's not fair. You know, kids,
Speaker 2: you get to go see their favorite artists.
Speaker 4: I paid, well, that's a deal because I paid two
Speaker 4: fifty a pop for Garth Brooks, for Brooks.
Speaker 9: No, not Garth Brooks.
Speaker 7: It was Friends and Low Places, Brian Life, it was
Speaker 7: generation Away.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you it's expensive out there. Okay, So you
Speaker 4: mentioned going to these things concerts with your kids. When
Speaker 4: you go to the concerts, you buy them like hoodies.
Speaker 7: There's always a push for that game.
Speaker 4: You got to remember associated with everything. This is in
Speaker 4: the Washington Post. Teen hoodies are testing their class, it's
Speaker 4: limits and their parents patients. Okay, so if you've ever seen,
Speaker 4: I know my daughter's closet lined up stepped hoodies right across.
Speaker 4: And the problem is that they're worrying about how they're
Speaker 4: going to store these things. Okay, because the closets a
Speaker 4: running onund his pace. They're bulky, they're big, you know,
Speaker 4: how are you going to fold them? How are you
Speaker 4: going to fit them? And now these young teens are
Speaker 4: going to college and so parents are like, how are
Speaker 4: you going to fit all these in a dorm room?
Speaker 9: Personal for reasons.
Speaker 4: And what do you do? So they have like all
Speaker 4: these solutions. There's Facebook groups out there for this for
Speaker 4: people how to do it. My daughter says she's taken half,
Speaker 4: taking half the hoodies, and then she comes back from
Speaker 4: break brings those back up.
Speaker 6: Set.
Speaker 4: See you get a new set like the gift you yes,
Speaker 4: I don't yes, yes, if you don't get a hoodie,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I know this.
Speaker 9: It's a thing. You go down the Jersey Shore, you
Speaker 9: get a.
Speaker 7: Hoodie there, you know, And I saw in your video
Speaker 7: there the old Goat USA.
Speaker 9: You know that brand?
Speaker 6: Boy?
Speaker 9: Do I see?
Speaker 13: I was?
Speaker 9: This was a conversation. No idea.
Speaker 6: What that's your wardrobe? I don't know either.
Speaker 9: So many hoodies in my teens. It's not something I
Speaker 9: have as an adult.
Speaker 2: But my parents who moved from Colorado still have like
Speaker 2: two full drawers of hoodies that I just left there
Speaker 2: when I went to college and never so haven't given
Speaker 2: me warned some mateo, the promises of hoodie.
Speaker 9: You know, carriage may not may not happen.
Speaker 6: This followed her hot topic goth stage that we still need.
Speaker 9: Yes, we do need proof of that.
Speaker 7: Drawing all together Saturday and Sunday to show across two days.
Speaker 7: If you're just tuning in today, you've missed a lot
Speaker 7: of the inside jokes.
Speaker 9: But it's a wonderful time.
Speaker 4: It's a wonderful time. All right. Let me take you
Speaker 4: from hoodies to clothing you can wear to keep you incognito.
Speaker 9: Okay, let me explain, all right, This is from the Guardian.
Speaker 4: Adversarial clothing are garments designed to confuse facial recognition systems
Speaker 4: about to go mainstream.
Speaker 9: So let me explain.
Speaker 4: These are These are carefully designed arrangement of shapes, colors,
Speaker 4: repeated patterns. And they do is they throw off computer
Speaker 4: vision systems. So if you're if you're listening on radio,
Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to describe these patterns. I don't know,
Speaker 4: how would you guys describe. Yes, that's what it does
Speaker 4: to these these these visual systems that are out there
Speaker 4: kind of tracking people. So that's why they're wearing this.
Speaker 4: It's it's a little odd, but it's kind of with fashion.
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's it's how you you speak. It's
Speaker 4: a form of expression. So they're kind of voicing out
Speaker 4: their concerns against.
Speaker 7: You were talking about concert halls. I think now when
Speaker 7: you like go to a lot of concert venues for
Speaker 7: being kind.
Speaker 2: Of yeah, especially wanted New York had some controversial moments
Speaker 2: for allegedly using facial recognition, and people don't want to
Speaker 2: be on these lists. I mean, it's it's I think
Speaker 2: it's really interesting and I think it's interesting how they're
Speaker 2: trying to make them wearable to write. As you've put
Speaker 2: these up here, they're all different and some are some
Speaker 2: are colorful, and some are digitized, and that in itself
Speaker 2: seems like a bit of a fashion statement. Especially the
Speaker 2: story was it earlier this week about Camo becoming big
Speaker 2: as we're.
Speaker 4: Gonna it's cameo.
Speaker 6: I love that all together.
Speaker 7: It's vacation time, Vacation time boy.
Speaker 4: Martha's Vineyard, Good.
Speaker 7: Morning, ninety two nine Boston to our listeners in the
Speaker 7: Greater Boston area to the top of Mount catatam As
Speaker 7: Tom people.
Speaker 4: Would say, you rolled that out very smoothly. One of
Speaker 4: David Gurrow's favorite hotspots. Also, the Obamas have a house there,
Speaker 4: so it is a popular place.
Speaker 9: This isn't from Bloomberg.
Speaker 4: Martha's Vineyard. Ticks drive tourists scrapt issue here, girls and
Speaker 4: rentals takes a big problem.
Speaker 6: They are.
Speaker 7: And deer ticks had been an issue there for a
Speaker 7: very long time. There were a lot of deer it's
Speaker 7: something that's immediately noticeable.
Speaker 6: But now there are these other.
Speaker 7: Smaller the loan star ticks, which transmit this alpha gl
Speaker 7: syndrome which gives you a meat allergy meat dairy products.
Speaker 7: And it's been really wild to watch a how that's spread.
Speaker 7: You hear about an anecdotally, and then if you go
Speaker 7: to shops or restaurants they sell food items that don't
Speaker 7: have those.
Speaker 4: Items and they call it like they call it that
Speaker 4: on the menu. It's it's it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Can you not, I mean, can you not go to
Speaker 2: your fancy beach without like trudging through the tick laden
Speaker 2: bushes if they're just.
Speaker 7: Everywhere, this specific one is every and the lone starting
Speaker 7: ticks come after you, unlike dear ticks like they are aggressive.
Speaker 6: Sad that our radio listeners can't watch me do it.
Speaker 9: Thank you for yes, radio listeners really.
Speaker 4: Missed so not David Guru, though not David Lisa.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
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