WEBVTT - Takeaways from Bears' 53-man roster | Bears, etc. Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Right justin middle of the field forty five fifteen bring

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<v Speaker 1>I am Jeff jonihat wlitz.

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<v Speaker 4>What was like playing for Coche?

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<v Speaker 5>Sixty one yards?

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<v Speaker 1>What's Sunday stroll for?

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<v Speaker 6>with the voices of the Bears Jeff Joniac and Tom Thayer.

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<v Speaker 1>Cuts have been made, deals have been done, and probably

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<v Speaker 1>more to come before it's all said and done. The

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three Bears prepare for their one hundredth fourth

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<v Speaker 1>season in franchise history with a new look and a

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<v Speaker 1>new hope for success. Hi, everybody, this is Bears et

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<v Speaker 1>cetera with Super Bowl winning Bear Tom Payer. I'm Jeff JONINGAF,

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<v Speaker 1>my broadcast partner on ESPN one thousand of the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Network, and we're brought to you by Miller Lte

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<v Speaker 1>tastes like Miller Time Chicago. All the angs that players

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<v Speaker 1>have felt over the course of the last few weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Time and no way is there a sigh relief, right right?

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<v Speaker 7>Jeff you know, have you ever watched the end of

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<v Speaker 7>the Stanley Cupp or a golf tournament where they show

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<v Speaker 7>the guy that's inscribing the name of the winners on

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<v Speaker 7>the trophy forever.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not happening yet.

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<v Speaker 7>Those names are not being inscribed on the roster for

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<v Speaker 7>the finality of the Chicago Bear season. There's hundreds of

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<v Speaker 7>names and positions and players in previous scouting that they've

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<v Speaker 7>done on players that have to see if they fit

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<v Speaker 7>and they may be better on this team than they

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<v Speaker 7>were on the team they were trying out for, because

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<v Speaker 7>of depth, because of different instances throughout the course of

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<v Speaker 7>time in training camp. So I think this is something

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<v Speaker 7>that we need to, as you say, pump the breaks

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<v Speaker 7>and let's see where the roster is in almost two

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<v Speaker 7>weeks where instead of tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Right as of right now, twenty six players on offense,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three on defense, and three of the specialists of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and the newest edition is Dan Feenie, a local product

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<v Speaker 1>from sanbrig Go out there in Orland Park. Tommy another

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<v Speaker 1>local guy and a guy with experience, acquired from Miami

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins in return for a sixth round pick in twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four more on his arrival from head coach Matt Eberflues.

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<v Speaker 1>Pending the passing of a physical.

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<v Speaker 3>In there, you've got an inside guy that you feel

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<v Speaker 3>that can play all spots and back up and you

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<v Speaker 3>know and be you know, a good a good starter there.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's really it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's kind of like having a good swing tackle,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, And that's really what the thought process was there.

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<v Speaker 5>We just said that everybody felt the but tevins week week.

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<v Speaker 5>We interpret that as you expect them to be good

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<v Speaker 5>to go.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what they're saying. Yep, everything looks good. We're getting

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<v Speaker 3>guys in. We had a walk through, a nice long

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<v Speaker 3>walkthrough meetings yesterday. We got the same thing today and

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<v Speaker 3>guys are looking good there and they're ramping up. Guys

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<v Speaker 3>that have been out are starting to do a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, land based stuff and getting in the

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<v Speaker 3>speeds and cuts and moving around. So we'll see where

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<v Speaker 3>it goes. But looks good right now.

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<v Speaker 6>With Cody is healthy, will he go back to center?

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<v Speaker 6>Where do you anticipate him staying in left guard?

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have to look at that once we get

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<v Speaker 3>the roster finalized, you know, because there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>moving parts right now that we're looking at you know,

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<v Speaker 3>every position, you know for depth, and.

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<v Speaker 5>You know potential otherwise. But yeah, right now, we can't

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<v Speaker 5>really say that we'll see Tommy.

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<v Speaker 1>Four years with the Chargers, two seasons with the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>before joining the Dolphins earlier this offseason. He's got almost

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred career games and sixty four starts under his belt.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is, the key here is I would imagine

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<v Speaker 1>from your perspective, he's insurance and he's got experience at

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<v Speaker 1>both guard and center.

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<v Speaker 7>Exactly. It's all about versatility, Jeff. You know, when you

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<v Speaker 7>bringing in a guy, especially an offensive lineman, this late

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<v Speaker 7>in the mix, he's gonna have to be sped or

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<v Speaker 7>fed a lot of information over the next fifteen or

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<v Speaker 7>fourteen or however many days there is before the first game.

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<v Speaker 7>But he's gonna have to digest a lot of information

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<v Speaker 7>before they put him on the practice field so he

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<v Speaker 7>can get involved in the play. So it's something that

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<v Speaker 7>he's going to have to stand right to the right

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<v Speaker 7>of Chris Morgan, the offensive line coach. Every single play

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<v Speaker 7>that's called, he's almost told his assignment. And then when

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<v Speaker 7>he gets an opportunity to get some reps. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>you have to be told your assignment again, but these

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<v Speaker 7>professionals know how to study. I've had it happen to

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<v Speaker 7>me when I got cut by the Bears. I got

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<v Speaker 7>picked up a couple days later by Miami Dolphins and

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<v Speaker 7>they said, listen, you better sit there and study your

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<v Speaker 7>plays so we can activate you as soon as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's no different now in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe any abit easier transition. Maybe Mike McDaniel from

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<v Speaker 1>that tree of Kyle Shanahan and guys up in Green

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<v Speaker 1>Bay and of course Luke Getzi, so there could be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of an easier transition possibly. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>does this also signal anything to you about the health

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<v Speaker 1>of the offensive line, in particular, what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>Cody white Hair, what's going on with Lucas Patrick, what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with Nate Davis, and what potential is going

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<v Speaker 1>on with Kramer as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And Tevin Jenkins.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, because when you listen to Matt abra Fluis,

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<v Speaker 7>he wasn't committing to the length of his injury or

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<v Speaker 7>to any of those guys, and some of them are

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<v Speaker 7>still day to day. So I think it's important to

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<v Speaker 7>come in here and pick up a guy that has

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<v Speaker 7>NFL playing experience, because it's not a shock to a

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<v Speaker 7>guy that's already been in the NFL. Sometimes it is

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<v Speaker 7>a surprise that's a college player that comes in and

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<v Speaker 7>plays in the first regular season game because the you,

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<v Speaker 7>Jeff Listen, man, you've been around the NFL long enough

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<v Speaker 7>and you know the tempo of the regular season is

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<v Speaker 7>a lot different than the uncertainty or the amount of

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<v Speaker 7>reps that these guys are told they're going to play

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<v Speaker 7>in the preseason. So I think the one key word

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<v Speaker 7>is we get ready to start the season is chemistry.

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<v Speaker 7>And if you think of chemistry, it fits in every

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<v Speaker 7>single one of the segmented positions that they need to

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<v Speaker 7>get better before they go against the Green Bay Packers.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of questions about Nate Davis that was asked

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<v Speaker 1>if head coach Matt Eberflush on Tuesday, is he going

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<v Speaker 1>to be ready to play for Week one?

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<v Speaker 3>We're just looking at the phases where he is now.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's in the steps that it says he's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be ready. I don't know what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 3>with the other steps because I can't I can't tell

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<v Speaker 3>the future. But right now, he's in line for where

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<v Speaker 3>he needs to be and we'll see where it goes

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<v Speaker 3>from here.

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<v Speaker 2>The player like.

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<v Speaker 6>That who hasn't been on the field though all that much,

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<v Speaker 6>can you tell the buy into the hits principle to

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<v Speaker 6>the intensity, to the level of which you expect your

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<v Speaker 6>guys to be playing since you haven't really seen that

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<v Speaker 6>from him in your system.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, I mean I've played against him for four

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<v Speaker 3>years or whatever it was, from eighteen to twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 3>so I know what kind of player he is. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen what kind of player is the intensity brings

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<v Speaker 3>to the line.

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<v Speaker 5>And when he's been there and he's looked great.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he's been in there looking good at his

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<v Speaker 3>past sets, his jumps to the second level in the

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<v Speaker 3>run game.

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<v Speaker 5>So he's looked really good in there.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I said, the process will take care of

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<v Speaker 3>itself and he'll be ready to go.

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<v Speaker 5>But my past experience is with him, he's our kind

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<v Speaker 5>of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom. It made it seem like everybody's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go come week one, with the exception of

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<v Speaker 1>Tevin Jenkins.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you know, Nate Davis, he's got to be ready

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<v Speaker 7>to play. If he was able to put his pads

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<v Speaker 7>on a couple times in Indianapolis, and throughout the last

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<v Speaker 7>week of the preseason, he's got a Is this not

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<v Speaker 7>a ramp up period anymore for Nate Davis? This is

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<v Speaker 7>a prepared to start for Nate Davis. And the biggest

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<v Speaker 7>help that they can give Darnell right is having an

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<v Speaker 7>experience lined up to his immediate left, in his immediate

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<v Speaker 7>right when you talk about the tight end position, Nate,

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<v Speaker 7>you were paid a lot of money to come in

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<v Speaker 7>here and to be a day one bona fide starter.

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<v Speaker 7>That's what I expect out of him, and I hope

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<v Speaker 7>that's the same expectations for Bear Nation and the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Among the cuts the veterans defensive end Trevis

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<v Speaker 1>Gibson and cornerback kendallville Door. They've been in the program

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<v Speaker 1>now for several years. DeMarcus Gates was banged up, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>play much at all during the preseason, Steven Carlson, the

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<v Speaker 1>tight end of Ante Collins a tackle, and also some

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<v Speaker 1>other veterans like Derise Fountain at the wide receiver position,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Ojamudia at corner, and Simba Webster. Some of these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they're veterans, will be brought back to the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen man practice squad. So this is probably something that

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<v Speaker 1>we probably shouldn't even get into. But let's tackle Gibson

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<v Speaker 1>number one, because obviously the idea that he was asking

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<v Speaker 1>for and granted a trade request did not materialize, but

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<v Speaker 1>it seemed like the handwriting was on the wall for Travis.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you know, there's coaches out there that have familiarity

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<v Speaker 7>with him. You know, if you look at Sean Desai

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<v Speaker 7>in Philly, you look down in Miami with Vic Fangio,

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<v Speaker 7>there's guys that are familiar with his style of play,

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<v Speaker 7>in his dedication to the everyday responsibilities of an NFL player.

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<v Speaker 7>So you never know, he could let he could land

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<v Speaker 7>at one of those two teams. I think if I

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<v Speaker 7>was Trevis Gibson, I would stay fresh, I would stay

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<v Speaker 7>working out, I would stay ready to play at a

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<v Speaker 7>moment's notice because he showed, you know, in the preseason

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<v Speaker 7>that he's got pass rushing skills. So maybe it's something

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<v Speaker 7>that you can continue to refine those skills you end

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<v Speaker 7>up in a roster and have a long, healthy, happy career.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to talk about Tyson Page and he is

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<v Speaker 1>the number two quarterback right now. Nathan Peterman was waived.

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<v Speaker 1>It does not prey clue, according to the head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>Matty Reflush from bringing in some experience at the quarterback position,

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<v Speaker 1>but his performance throughout training camp in in the preseason

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<v Speaker 1>certainly turned everybody's heads. Here's Eberflution on what he's looking

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<v Speaker 1>for in the young man's.

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<v Speaker 3>When you're a young player like that, you know you

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<v Speaker 3>have to improve and get better every single week. And

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<v Speaker 3>he's going to learn as he goes through the process

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<v Speaker 3>of how the game plan changes every week, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>probably a lot different than what he's used to.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, you put a training camp.

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<v Speaker 3>Install in and you're going through these concepts that you have,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the runs, and then the play action comes

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<v Speaker 3>off of it, and the screen game were putting in

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, the quick game, the empty game, and

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<v Speaker 3>so forth, and you kind of go through that process

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<v Speaker 3>during week one week, two week three of training camp,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of a sudden, now you get to a

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<v Speaker 3>game week and you're like, say, hey, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>pull this off the board, this off the board, We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to change this, just this, and.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to learn all those concepts.

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<v Speaker 3>But they may look different to the to the defense,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's how we put them in.

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<v Speaker 5>So he's got to learn how to do that process.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom, anything about this surprise you, Well.

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<v Speaker 7>Let me ask you something you announced the Senior Bowl.

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<v Speaker 7>Does anything that surprise you? You have more eyes on

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<v Speaker 7>experience from his practicing. When you go from the college

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<v Speaker 7>he went to Shepherd University right now, you go to

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<v Speaker 7>the Senior Bowl with all these Division Division one five

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<v Speaker 7>star quality athletes. Me, I'm surprised just because I didn't

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<v Speaker 7>know anything about them. But I've grown to like these

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<v Speaker 7>guys that stay in college for four years because it's

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<v Speaker 7>evident of the extra couple thousands of reps that they

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<v Speaker 7>get in those last years and it helps them, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>elevate their skills. What about you, Joni, He's surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not, because I've said all along. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about the guy, the way he carries himself,

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<v Speaker 1>the way he walked down the practice field, the way

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<v Speaker 1>players responded to him, the way he throws the football,

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<v Speaker 1>his mechanics so no, and his belief. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>know this word, mox he keeps coming up. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's just in the household he lived in with that

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<v Speaker 1>father who was internationally famous for being a hand arm

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<v Speaker 1>wrestler and being a champion of the best ever. He

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<v Speaker 1>just walks and walks to talk. You know, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about him. And whenever you hear about there's

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<v Speaker 1>something you bottom guys, you know they're going to get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. And now he has a chance. And he

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<v Speaker 1>believed this long before he started high school out there

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<v Speaker 1>in West Virginia, long before he was ignored by colleges.

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<v Speaker 1>He felt his whole mindset, Tom, his whole mindset was

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the NFL. And when he started that process,

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<v Speaker 1>there's video on it and he's quoted as saying, people

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna they're gonna be wondering why they passed me

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<v Speaker 1>up when I play in the NFL. And so now

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the doorstep of being in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 7>Jeff, when I was a junior in high school, me

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<v Speaker 7>and two classmates of mine. Sitting in class, we said, hey,

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<v Speaker 7>how are we going to sign our autograph when we

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<v Speaker 7>make it to professional sports.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in April of my junior year.

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<v Speaker 7>I had that same mindset in my head, and I'm

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<v Speaker 7>glad that Badget agent had it because you see what

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<v Speaker 7>has come out to be. Now, the first thing you

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<v Speaker 7>hear that term the eye test. Does he pass the

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<v Speaker 7>eye test? Is he Doug Flutie five to nine plus? No,

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<v Speaker 7>he's six three, two hundred and fifteen pounds. He passes

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<v Speaker 7>the eye test. But now what's all about the mental test?

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<v Speaker 7>And he's passed it. He's shown the coaches, given the

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<v Speaker 7>indication and meetings and on the practice field and on

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<v Speaker 7>the game field, that nothing's too big for him.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm proud of the kid.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm happy for him, and I hope he has a long,

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<v Speaker 7>successful career.

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<v Speaker 1>I love these stories, and they're all over the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>For Football League, there's a bunch of guys making teams

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody thought they would make, and let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>happens with their careers. One of those guys is tied

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<v Speaker 1>in Robert Tunyan. He talked about Beijing and how he

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<v Speaker 1>interacted with him. Their conversations and his own Indiana State

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<v Speaker 1>to Detroit Lions to Green Bay Packers journey. Let's listen in.

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<v Speaker 8>He's a good kid, he's a gamer. What's good about him.

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<v Speaker 8>He was from a D two school and he played

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of football. It's not like a guy who

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<v Speaker 8>is just you know, starting like a handful of games

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<v Speaker 8>in Division one and then getting drafted. You know, he played,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, a lot of games, had a lot of success.

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<v Speaker 8>So he has a lot of football under his belt.

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<v Speaker 6>Been very self aware just about the level that he

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<v Speaker 6>came from. And he said that he'd make plays and

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<v Speaker 6>he'd notice some guys. But wait, like kind of almost

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<v Speaker 6>like a little bit of shock that a D two

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<v Speaker 6>guy can make right like that, like you went where

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<v Speaker 6>to school? Like how have you seen your teammates react

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<v Speaker 6>to like how well he's played this preseason?

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<v Speaker 8>Knowing where I think that's what's good about Like our team,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, a young team, like everyone's so like the

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<v Speaker 8>camaraderie is good. Everyone doesn't really look down on people

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<v Speaker 8>where they came from or you know, if you can play.

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<v Speaker 5>Football, you can play football.

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<v Speaker 8>And those are the people that we want around this

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<v Speaker 8>building and we want a part of this team, So.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it is a little different.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, a D two quarterback, you know, just coming

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<v Speaker 8>in just all of a sudden making plays. But if

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<v Speaker 8>you look at his film and like who he is

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<v Speaker 8>and you know his statistics and all that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>he's been doing it so.

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<v Speaker 2>Along the same lines.

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<v Speaker 5>You were a guy who had to fight for a

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<v Speaker 5>roster spot.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you remember what the emotions of like roster cutdout, dame.

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<v Speaker 5>What advice do you have for guys?

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<v Speaker 8>Kind of Yeah, I mean I had, you know, when

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<v Speaker 8>I was in Detroit, I had the worst where you know,

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<v Speaker 8>I went in to sign my practice squad contract and

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<v Speaker 8>then they didn't have it all of a sudden. And

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<v Speaker 8>then the next year I go in and they call me.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I get that, you know, the prank call

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<v Speaker 8>that I got cut, and then I go in there

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<v Speaker 8>and then I made the team. So it was like

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<v Speaker 8>completely the different, completely opposites. But yeah, I mean just advice,

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<v Speaker 8>I mean it really it does, you know, weigh on

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<v Speaker 8>you when you get that call or when you get cut.

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<v Speaker 8>But there's so much that can happen within these like

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<v Speaker 8>next handful of weeks. You know, so many injuries in

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<v Speaker 8>the first couple of games, or you know, you see

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<v Speaker 8>roster moves that you know people didn't really like, or

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<v Speaker 8>you kind of just see how the NFL unfolds in

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<v Speaker 8>terms of rosters and moves and stuff like that. So

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<v Speaker 8>he kind of really can't dwell on it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>I didn'tan. I didn't sign Green Bay until like week

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<v Speaker 8>or like the first week of December, so I was

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<v Speaker 8>at home for like a whole year. So and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>so I mean really cliches it sounds, really isn't now

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<v Speaker 8>it starts, but you know, when you get your opportunity,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, finishing and executing and just making do with

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<v Speaker 8>your opportunities.

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<v Speaker 6>Someone had the audacity to prank call you from the

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<v Speaker 6>front office.

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<v Speaker 8>Like no, no, no, it was like another player who

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<v Speaker 8>got cut, and then he used like the same text

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<v Speaker 8>and copied and pasted and sent to me. I literally

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<v Speaker 8>went into the office and handed in my iPad and

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<v Speaker 8>then everyone was like excited to see me, and I

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<v Speaker 8>was super confused. I didn't say anything. Yeah, there's like

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<v Speaker 8>an article on it on ESPN or something like that,

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<v Speaker 8>but this was yeah, two thousand and eight, Yeah, twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 8>I had a really good preseason, and I like they

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<v Speaker 8>basically told me like I was on the team, so

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<v Speaker 8>I was like cool, and then like I'm at home

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<v Speaker 8>like playing video games with my buddy, and all of

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<v Speaker 8>a sudden, like I get that text and I literally

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<v Speaker 8>drove like so mad to the building like hand in

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<v Speaker 8>my iPad. Then my tight ends coach in the GM

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<v Speaker 8>are like super excited to see me.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, this is weird.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a great story from Tanya. The one I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot believe though, was getting the crank call from somebody

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't really like on the team telling him that

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<v Speaker 1>he was cut after he thought he'd made the Packers.

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<v Speaker 7>How me, it was it was a text, so some

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<v Speaker 7>other teammate got cut through a text, and then that

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<v Speaker 7>teammate took that text and sent it to Tonian.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have drove right to that person's house and

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<v Speaker 2>beat the.

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<v Speaker 7>Crap out of them and then went back and hope,

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<v Speaker 7>like heck that I still had a playbook at the

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<v Speaker 7>end of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's I gotta tell you.

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<v Speaker 7>It's one of the greatest stories I've ever heard from

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<v Speaker 7>an actual NFL successful player by Robert Tunyan And someday

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<v Speaker 7>I would like to talk to him behind closed doors

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<v Speaker 7>and get more of a off the microphone, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>response to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, even Detroit, he shows up for the practice squad

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<v Speaker 1>and that there was no contract. That's all I said.

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<v Speaker 1>There was nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>There was nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was all.

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<v Speaker 1>It was not happening. So and he didn't even play

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<v Speaker 1>football for almost a year before he got together with

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers and they had a ten touchdown season up

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<v Speaker 1>there in Green Bay. So great guy, local guy. Glad

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<v Speaker 1>he's here. And that's an exciting watch. Game day snacking

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<v Speaker 1>calls for good foods. Chunky guacamaldi made with has avocados, tomatoes, onions,

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<v Speaker 1>solan showing a squeeze of lime juice. It's the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>snack to watch while the Bears win. Score something today

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<v Speaker 1>at your local grocery store. Game day is guak day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you we you know, and you've been

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<v Speaker 1>making a lot of comments about me and my parent

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<v Speaker 1>love for number twenty nine Tyre Stevenson. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've also really my eyes are telling me, okay, Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Pickens can play football. He can play football for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just love the idea of Pickens and Dexter.

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<v Speaker 1>They get out there together, they walk around together. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like your offensive lineman when they're all together. These two guys,

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<v Speaker 1>they are joined at the hip and maybe they have

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<v Speaker 1>great ten year careers here with the Chicago Bears. A

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<v Speaker 1>defensive line, defensive tackle, nose tackle in this system. What

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<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts on Pickens in Dexter.

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<v Speaker 7>They don't have a lot of similarities in their.

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<v Speaker 2>Style of play.

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<v Speaker 7>When you look at Zach Pickens, you look at the

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<v Speaker 7>immediate explosiveness that he gets in control of the offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 7>and he puts them in a defensive position that offensive

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<v Speaker 7>lineman don't want to be in. Gavon Dexter has athleticism

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<v Speaker 7>to move laterally and to move vertically, like he says,

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<v Speaker 7>So I like the way that these guys are increasing

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<v Speaker 7>their repertoire, their arsenal. And Travis Smith a defensive line coach,

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<v Speaker 7>I think he's the perfect guy for them because he's

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<v Speaker 7>got a variety of skills that he's been taught from

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<v Speaker 7>other coaches, and then he does a really nice job

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<v Speaker 7>of teaching.

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<v Speaker 2>These guys on the move. So they put them in place.

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<v Speaker 7>It's not something that they think about, it's just the

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<v Speaker 7>way they react as defensive linemen. So I'm looking for

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<v Speaker 7>the increased potential and growth of both of these guys

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<v Speaker 7>in their own different skill sets.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Pickings on the potential he sees with Dexter. He's

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<v Speaker 1>running mate.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, sir, we definitely do that, celebrate. We dap

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<v Speaker 4>each other up every time we're about to go on

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<v Speaker 4>the field. We give each other confidence. And that's the

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<v Speaker 4>one thing I always want it. And if you believe it,

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<v Speaker 4>he believe it, We're gonna be all right. And I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like if we do our if we play our

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<v Speaker 4>cards right, can't nobody stop us.

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<v Speaker 1>And that being said, you know, Dexter, let's listen in.

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<v Speaker 1>He feels that he's starting to prove people wrong. And

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<v Speaker 1>when asked, well, what do you mean you know, he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was a second round pick. He says, it's so calmly.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's listen in.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh yeah, completely opposite player now. I mean, I mean

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<v Speaker 9>like getting off the ball, playing vertical and learning how

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<v Speaker 9>to do some of those things. Even my rush ability

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<v Speaker 9>has turned the whole different levels, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Like lean and athletic ability more in college, it seems

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<v Speaker 3>like a natural thing, and then you come up period

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<v Speaker 3>to realize it takes more than that.

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<v Speaker 5>If you come to that kind of realization.

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<v Speaker 9>Right, Yeah, of course, I think like a guy like me,

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<v Speaker 9>I can win someone on one is just with my

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<v Speaker 9>god given But now there's guys who's just as big

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<v Speaker 9>and just as strong. So it's a technique versus technique.

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<v Speaker 9>Pad level hands, inside hands, it's a lot of little

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<v Speaker 9>things that you gotta have to win.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the kind of agitation you had, Right, he's agitated.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't hurt. Yeah, but he what he's mad. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not a first round pick, so therefore he feels people

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe in him.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but drink that fourth round kool Aid like I've

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<v Speaker 7>been drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still bitter about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's any good. It's not. It doesn't taste. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no taste. Doesn't changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on.

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<v Speaker 7>But I admire these two defensive linemen because they're not satisfied,

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<v Speaker 7>they're not happy. They know they have a lot of potential,

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<v Speaker 7>but they need to work hard to you know, have

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<v Speaker 7>that growth cultivate. And so, like I said, I'm excited

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<v Speaker 7>to see him down the road. And I think they're

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<v Speaker 7>on a good team. There's some good veterans here. And

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<v Speaker 7>when you look at the front seven of any defense,

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<v Speaker 7>you need that rotational defensive line that can keep your

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<v Speaker 7>reps as fresh as they can possibly be. And I

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<v Speaker 7>hope they're contributors on week one, day one.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So you got nine of them as of

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<v Speaker 1>right now, DeMarcus Walker, you and Heke and Gockway, Dominique Robinson,

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<v Speaker 1>Rashim Green, and Terrell Lewis. He makes the team, Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Jones Andrew Billdings, then Zach Pickens and Javon Dexter Senior.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like the rotation the flexibility of these nine gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 7>You need to see DeMarcus Walker where he's at. He

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<v Speaker 7>hasn't shown me enough on the practice field other than

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<v Speaker 7>you know, being a little chirpie, being a little instigator.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that side of them. I think the team

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<v Speaker 2>needs that.

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<v Speaker 7>But I need to see DeMarcus Walker healthy and have

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<v Speaker 7>multiple reps on the field, be in full pads to

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<v Speaker 7>show me what he's going to contribute to the outside position.

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<v Speaker 1>Tremaine Edmonds had that twenty day absence from training camp

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<v Speaker 1>get in a few snaps in the preseason finale, so

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't seen him in his entirety with this defense

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<v Speaker 1>as well with his running mate TJ. Edwards, Eddie Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and Jakwan Brisker at safety. So Kyler Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>was asked if he's concerned about that lack of continuity

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<v Speaker 1>as they head into the opener since.

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<v Speaker 10>The beginning of camps, and OTA is like, we've been

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<v Speaker 10>in moments that we all juled together, and I've seen

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<v Speaker 10>the way that we've all played and how dominant can

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<v Speaker 10>be kind of like what I was talking about a

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<v Speaker 10>little bit earlier, and so you know, being able to

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<v Speaker 10>have that in that chemistry and stuff, and even to

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<v Speaker 10>be able to go through walk throughs and do stuff

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<v Speaker 10>and the communication be so smooth that when you know

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<v Speaker 10>we're going through play, it's like, I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 10>just smooth, and especially compared to last year at least

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<v Speaker 10>for me, and you know, being able to talk about

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<v Speaker 10>players and we can do this, we can do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, let's just make sure we.

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<v Speaker 10>Talk it up and like I don't really have any

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<v Speaker 10>doubts as far as the way we're gonna Jel. I've

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<v Speaker 10>seen each player, you know, do something special individually and

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<v Speaker 10>add and contribute to this defense and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 10>So I think a lot of people are curious about it.

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<v Speaker 10>But as as a defense and people that have been

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<v Speaker 10>here in the building, like I don't have a lot

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<v Speaker 10>of doubts in the players that we have and stuff

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<v Speaker 10>like that, So I feel good about us.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Gordon says he's not worried about it because

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<v Speaker 1>he's seen it throughout course of the offseason and practice

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<v Speaker 1>that when they were healthy, these guys were playing a

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<v Speaker 1>certain style of defense, and they did. They looked good,

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<v Speaker 1>They looked better at times than the offense did throughout

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<v Speaker 1>certain practices in the offseason and training camp. What is

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<v Speaker 1>your take and concern at all for the starting defense

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<v Speaker 1>as it prepares for the Packers.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is my concern.

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<v Speaker 7>When Kyler Gordon was at the mike, communication inside the

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<v Speaker 7>classroom was a lot different than chemistry out in the

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<v Speaker 7>field when you have moving part against your opponent, I

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<v Speaker 7>do when the whole defense was out there, I think, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 7>that was the most impressive element of training camp force.

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<v Speaker 7>In the first four or five days of camp when

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<v Speaker 7>they were all out there, they were fast on their feet,

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<v Speaker 7>They're athletic, they moved well, they're taking the ball away,

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<v Speaker 7>they're putting pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>On the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 7>I like that Kyler Gordon feels that they're in a

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<v Speaker 7>better place now than they were a year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously when some of these kids were rookies.

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<v Speaker 7>But if they have all these guys stay healthy, they

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<v Speaker 7>have depth in the defensive backfield. They're more athletic at

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<v Speaker 7>the linebacker position. With depth, they got a better rotation

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<v Speaker 7>a defensive lineman. If they can stay on the field together.

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<v Speaker 7>What did k Kyler say at the end of it

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<v Speaker 7>that they could be scary. This is a good group.

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<v Speaker 7>This is a good group. So I'm excited to see that.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. We need the offense to feel the same way

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<v Speaker 1>about itself with Justin Fields pulling the trigger for DJ Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Claypole, Darnell Mooney, Echuamenia, Sam Brown, Tyler, Scott Baylis Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Junior Cole Comet, Robert Tunyan, Mercedes Lewis, and the running backs.

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<v Speaker 1>He kept five running backs, including Kyrie blasting game. So

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<v Speaker 1>you've got a lot of weaponry and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>mismatches you could create if everything falls into place. But

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the offensive line's got to come out healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>So these are all all things, a lot of questions.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet with two weeks to go before the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, opener.

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<v Speaker 7>Down chemistry, Jeff, and I keep I'm going to repeat

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<v Speaker 7>that word until I get one hundred reps of the

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<v Speaker 7>offensive line together, of the same five guys, and I

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<v Speaker 7>think that's when you can start scratching the surface of

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<v Speaker 7>the chemistry that you ultimately need. So you know, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 7>take for example, the first three games of the year,

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<v Speaker 7>and you think of the defense Green Bay runs, you

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<v Speaker 7>think of the defense Tampa Bay runs, and then you

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<v Speaker 7>think of the defense that Kansas City runs. There are

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<v Speaker 7>subtle differences to every one of those defenses, and you

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<v Speaker 7>don't have time to talk on the line of scrimmage

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<v Speaker 7>about the communication of responsibilities. You got to get to

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<v Speaker 7>know each other so well that it's a blink of

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<v Speaker 7>an eye, it's an elbow tap in the huddle, it's

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<v Speaker 7>a head nod, it's a code word at the offensive

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<v Speaker 7>line that everybody knows exactly what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>So, uh, you.

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<v Speaker 7>Know, my opinion, is still out there, and I'll give

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<v Speaker 7>you that opinion after hopefully I see those hundred snaps.

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<v Speaker 1>All three of those defensive lines have impressive players on it,

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<v Speaker 1>assuming of course, that Chris Jones returns and avoids a

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<v Speaker 1>holdout there for Kansas City. I hope not all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Big Time did anything on the final roster as we

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<v Speaker 1>know it right now, A surprise you and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>take the injuries aside. There were a few guys banged up.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, that practice squad will feature players that are

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<v Speaker 1>from other rosters, but a number of rookies that did

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<v Speaker 1>not make the final roster will be on that practice squad.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, surprise.

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<v Speaker 7>No, I'm just waiting to see the guys get into

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<v Speaker 7>their place, to see how they developed on this team,

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<v Speaker 7>because you know, you make you talked.

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<v Speaker 2>About the absence of tremade Edmunds.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, we talk about the absence of Chase Claypool.

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<v Speaker 7>So there's veterans on this football team that haven't been.

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<v Speaker 2>Around for a little while.

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<v Speaker 7>DeMarcus Walker that they're going to play a significant role

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<v Speaker 7>on this football team, Jeff. So when you talk about

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<v Speaker 7>these next days leading up to the Green Bay game,

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<v Speaker 7>it's almost like they have to speed up their process

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<v Speaker 7>of contributing to this football team mentally, physically, and you

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<v Speaker 7>know in the meeting rooms in every way that the

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<v Speaker 7>Bears are going to be asking of them. So I'm

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<v Speaker 7>excited to see. It's not the finished product before the

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<v Speaker 7>Green Bay game. It's the product before the Green Bay game.

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<v Speaker 1>And just taking a glance at the Packers a roster, Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest change is the most important one to Jordan Love,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of the same names that we have

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<v Speaker 1>dealt with over the years are on that roster. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a young receiving corps. It's a veteran defensive line with

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<v Speaker 1>the veteran defensive players in the secondary, and a veteran

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line with a pair of running backs that can

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<v Speaker 1>cause you some damage.

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<v Speaker 2>Why they cut your guy? Who is that trick O'Donnell?

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<v Speaker 1>I know they cut him Monday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm surprised about that, Patrick O'Donnell.

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<v Speaker 7>Will he'll end up on an NFL roster as an

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<v Speaker 7>active player maybe Week two.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I mean there was a.

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<v Speaker 7>Lot of kickers around the league traded in moving around

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<v Speaker 7>teams at this part of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll listen.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, in Green Bay I don't like Green Bay,

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<v Speaker 7>that's no secret. But I like Patrick O'Donnell and I

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<v Speaker 7>was surprised when I saw his name.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Lastly, one bit of nugget that is important for the

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<v Speaker 1>season to come, Tommy. Eight of the bears thirteen losses

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<v Speaker 1>came down to a single score and they had led

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter in some of those games. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how much excitement there was in the season that became

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<v Speaker 1>a fourteen loss season despite that fact they were So

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<v Speaker 1>how do they bridge that gap?

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 7>How do they win those You know, they have to

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<v Speaker 7>have more sustainability time sustainability that leads to score on offense.

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<v Speaker 7>They have to keep their defense fresh late in the

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<v Speaker 7>game because when you look at the analytics and the

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<v Speaker 7>statistics of the defense, you know it's got to go

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<v Speaker 7>hand in hand, Jeff. It's got to be a contributing, scoring,

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<v Speaker 7>time consuming offense that allows the defense to play fresh.

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<v Speaker 7>Because we just talked about all the assets the defense has,

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<v Speaker 7>and if they're allowed to go out there in the

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<v Speaker 7>fourth quarter and play a fresh brand of football, then

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<v Speaker 7>you're going to see them winning those types of games.

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<v Speaker 7>And you know, so we need probably more explosive plays

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<v Speaker 7>in the fourth quarter as well.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, that's going to wrap us up. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Miller Lte, the official beer of the Chicago Bears, tastes

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<v Speaker 1>like middle time Chicago. Tommy, We'll talk to you in

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotta boy, Jeff.

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