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Speaker 1: Earnestness Bananza starts. Now, what's up, idiots? Sorry? Sorry, okay,

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Speaker 1: hold on. Earnestness Bananza starts. Now, Hi, dear listeners, Hello listeners,

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Speaker 1: It is me Sam and it's me George, the host

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Speaker 1: of the normally um weird, absurd, sort of sometimes biting

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Speaker 1: UM podcast known as Stradio lab Um. And you know

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Speaker 1: if you if you've listened to us, you know how

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Speaker 1: we can get. We can be a little sarcastic, little ironic.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we'll lie about stuff. You know. Here I say snarky.

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Speaker 1: Oh and now we said it, um. And this episode

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Speaker 1: is the ernest Is Bananza. Uh. The reason well, pride,

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Speaker 1: I guess um, And we're answering your questions um, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to be earnest and and for any new listeners.

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Speaker 1: We did this once before. We had a holiday Earnestness

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Speaker 1: Bonanza in December where we um solicited questions from our

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Speaker 1: And we didn't necessarily have plans to do it again,

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Speaker 1: but we had such why are you laughing? No, because

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Speaker 1: it's funny, I don't know, because you're it's making me

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Speaker 1: laugh because it's saying like we didn't necessarily have plans

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Speaker 1: I know, I just think it sounds it sounds like

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Speaker 1: I just I don't think we knew it would be

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Speaker 1: people would send It's like a good thing, Like we

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Speaker 1: I think it's like it's very This one's for the

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Speaker 1: Think often the guests episodes get like passed around more

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Speaker 1: people who really, um, who really are longtime listeners and fans,

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Speaker 1: the Salmon George heads, Yes, the Salmon George heads, not

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Speaker 1: the people who just saw it because someone reposted it

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Speaker 1: sure or they called them who you know, we're we're

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Speaker 1: maybe searching for a different favorite comedian of theirs and

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Speaker 1: but aren't. Don't you want us to be psychopaths? And

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Speaker 1: really like the Earnest's Bonanza so much more than than

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Speaker 1: But in terms of New York people, Um, someone who

426
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 1: has been like incredibly supportive of me is Josh Gondleman.

427
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: And like when I was um doing packets and stuff like,

428
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: Josh has on multiple occasions offered to like has read

429
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: them or even giving me like detailed feedback and has

430
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: suggested me for things. Um and truly like there was

431
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: like no reason he needed to do that. Yeah, it's

432
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,119
Speaker 1: crazy when people are nice. Um, should we very quickly

433
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: do the second part? Sure, I think we can try it,

434
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: um so, and we should say this is from Rachel.

435
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: The second part is, I'm very interested in how the

436
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: UCB adjacent community has impacted you, both positively and negative. Um,

437
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: let's just let's do that and you can go first

438
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: and all the second okay um. I when I first

439
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: went to New York, it was like to do UCB

440
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: that was like, for for me, the highest form of comedy.

441
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: When I was twenty two, I was like, I've got

442
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: to be on a UCB improv team. And then I

443
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: very quickly, um disliked it. Well, not quickly, I did,

444
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: like a lot of classes, and then I was like wait,

445
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: After like maybe two years, I was like wait, I

446
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: gotta get out of here and started doing stand up

447
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: and then that was like that was immediate, and I

448
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 1: was like, this is a much better fit. So like

449
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: U c B. I do think it was helpful to

450
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 1: like think about comedy and that sort of academic sense.

451
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: But I also was like so grateful to have the

452
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: contrast with like stand up where you don't think about

453
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: it in that way and you think about more just

454
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 1: like is it getting a reaction? What do you want

455
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: to do? Don't? How can you not follow the rules?

456
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: Like what is what is your brand of this thing?

457
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: And that I clicked with much more. But and I

458
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: used to have a real like hate of UCB because

459
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck them that it's like a fucking

460
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 1: camp for kids that like privileged ass and then I

461
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: was like, now that they're dead, it's hard to still

462
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: be mad at them, and I just say, whatever, let

463
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: let them, let them be, Okay. I think that was

464
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: very well put. And I think, honestly, many many people

465
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: I was saying, many mature people like us. But I think, like,

466
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: I just think it's a very natural thing to like

467
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: first be really into something, then have a reactionary attitude

468
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: towards it, and then kind of come out the other

469
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: side and like be slightly more um empathetic to people

470
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: who may like it even though it's not for you.

471
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: I mean, not to get too serious, but truly that's

472
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,479
Speaker 1: like how I feel about religion. Like I was like,

473
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I was like just when I was

474
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 1: like young, I was like sure, I mean I was

475
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: not not right super religious, but I was just like,

476
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 1: oh yeah, sure God, like I'll pray. And then like

477
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: in high school, I went to like an incredibly like

478
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: ardent atheist phase where I was like obsessed with like

479
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: Bill Maher and like watching George Carlin specials about like

480
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: being atheists or whatever. And I literally went to college

481
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: and wanted to join the Atheist Students Union and then

482
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: it's like a year past. And I was like, oh,

483
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: maybe it's not for me, but like I who cares

484
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: if someone wants to like celebrate a holiday or like

485
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 1: go to church. I mean, as long as they're not

486
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,199
Speaker 1: like psychopaths, because they're all like psychopaths. But but I

487
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: do feel like, and it's not a coincidence that I'm

488
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: comparing used to be to a religion, perhaps, but not

489
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: at all. But I do think that's how I feel

490
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: about UCB. I was never involved in it, but I

491
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: was like very charmed by it at first and intimidated

492
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: by it. Then I was like, wait, why is everyone stupid?

493
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: And then I just was like, yeah, I guess some

494
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: people are good and some people are bad. Yeah, all right,

495
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: shall we next to your question? Um? Okay, this is

496
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: from Vincent. Uh. Since you both talk about your boyfriends

497
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: on pod, I'd love to know what each of them

498
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: would choose as their episode topic and that they'd like

499
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: to set the record straight on anything you've said about them.

500
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: So I have my answer for this because Matthew tis

501
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 1: and he had told me this a while ago but

502
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: then I forgot, So his straight topic would be g

503
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: chat M. I love that it's a good one, and

504
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 1: Matthew famously uh like is one of the only people

505
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: that still uses g chat and like it's him and

506
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: one other friend and and I'm like, this is inconvenient,

507
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: like just tanks um, But he I honestly find it

508
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: very charming. It's like I'm trying to think of like

509
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: an equivalent thing that's like slightly outdated that I use

510
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: or that you use. But like, I mean, I'm still

511
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: in like Facebook groups that like who Yeah, I'm in Facebook,

512
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: like a couple of Facebook groups that are like fun,

513
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: so I don't like with like comedian friends. And it's

514
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: like this is a group of ten and it's basically

515
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: a group chat, but it's just like, yeah, it's fun.

516
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 1: So it also says update email, vacation auto responders wow,

517
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: which is also straight. I guess email. I email is straight. Yes,

518
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: it is one of the straighter forms of communication. Yeah. Um,

519
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: is there anything Matthew would like to set the record

520
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: straight on? Um? Oh, that's a good question. Let's see,

521
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 1: Well while you think, yeah, you do, Misha, So I

522
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: I Misha has talked about this, and I didn't ask

523
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: him this explicitly, but I predict for him if I

524
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: can speak for him. His would be P D A

525
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: on the train. He like, it's like he always points

526
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: it out, and it is such a straight couple thing

527
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: to be like really touchy like on the train, and

528
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: it's like, I mean, on the one hand, go off,

529
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: but like it's just why why now, why are you

530
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: doing this? Um? And he gets he had if he

531
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: ever did stand up, he had a bit that he

532
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: would do that was like this is this is a

533
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: straight couple on the train, and then he would just

534
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: like make out with the air for a while. No,

535
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: he should make out with a non consenting member of

536
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: the audience. That would be radical. That's radical. Um. In

537
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: terms of things that Matthew wants me to set straight,

538
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: I can't think of anything, but I will say that,

539
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 1: like I am horrified to think that essentially I have

540
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: documented the my relationship in various podcasts. It's like it's inception,

541
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 1: Like that is crazy. It's just like I don't even

542
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: want to know what I said about. Like I was

543
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: recently thinking that, like you know, when we first started this,

544
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: when we recorded like our first first episodes, truly I

545
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: had known him for two months. Wow. Yeah, And like

546
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: I think I was like I probably I would imagine

547
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: switched probably from calling him like a guy to calling

548
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: him like a guy I'm dating, to calling him like

549
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: my boyfriend but not wanting to use his name like

550
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 1: I think, So I don't even I don't like. And

551
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: also frankly, you're like relationship with someone like to to

552
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: the relationship you have with like just who you think

553
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: someone is changes and like who knows how I felt

554
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: about him like month too of or is how I

555
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: feel about him now? So I don't. I have not

556
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: ever really listened to an old episode, I'll say that,

557
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: and I don't intend to. I love that you should

558
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: you should play um play the first episode at your wedding,

559
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean truly, actually, I mean I don't want to

560
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: now tell people to go listen to this, but if

561
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: there's anything I'll play at my wedding, it is my

562
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: episode of Seek Treatment where I went literally after my

563
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: first date with Matthew about about to actually blame Pat

564
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: and Catherine for like forcing me to talk about it.

565
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: But that's so false, like I went in being like

566
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: like very ready to spill the beans. Next question, this

567
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: may already have been answered because of that time thing,

568
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: but I need to know if George, I ever got

569
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: his chicken. I'm assuming that George has cooked said chicken

570
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: by now. So George, how was the chicken? And there

571
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: is a follow question that says, I don't want to

572
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: see them to feel excluded. So, Sam, have you had

573
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: any chicken recently? If so, how was it? Um? And

574
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: in fact this is from Shannon and they say a

575
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: vegetarian I who doesn't get chicken but hopes for the

576
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: best on your respective chicken journeys. That is how they

577
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: signed it. So so you know we love that. I'll

578
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: say this about my chicken. It did arrive right after

579
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: we start recording with Josh. And I'll say this second

580
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: thing about my chicken. It was so delicious. It was

581
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: like one of the best meals I've ever made. And

582
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: and I'll say this because Ernest Badanzap, you bet your

583
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: little ass I used an Alison Roman recipe whoa and

584
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: you bet your little assid was one. It was the video.

585
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: It was one of a Roman's videos where she makes

586
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: a whole roast chicken with leaks and then makes a

587
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: little sausa verdi with the green part of the leaks.

588
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: And I did it literally exactly like she said, except

589
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: for rather than making an an aoli from scratch, I

590
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: basically just like mixed mayo with lemon and garlic. Um.

591
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: But it was truly so good. But I'll say this,

592
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: you know what you need to do at the very end.

593
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: You have to turn the heat all the way up

594
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 1: to make the skin crispier. She actually had a part

595
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: of the video where she was like, I don't care

596
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: if this skin is crispy, and I was like, and

597
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: that's where you lose me. Well, Alison Romans back chicken. Recently.

598
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: I had um leftover Thie food today for lunch that

599
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: had chicken in it. So you know I had Thai

600
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: food last night that had chicken in it. So there

601
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: you go. Our chicken journeys are never ending, all right.

602
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: Next question? Oh, and this one is juicy um, And

603
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily about being earnest, but it's I think

604
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: this debate needs to be had, and so I think

605
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: this is a great question. And let's I keep forgetting

606
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: say like the first name first, Okay, this is Adam um,

607
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: And they say, what are your thoughts on Orville peck

608
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: if any? I personally really enjoyed his first album and

609
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: some of his singles and appreciate these at least trying

610
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: to do something different with country music. When I see

611
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: people talk about him on Twitter es basically all like

612
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: this is cringe and bad. Do you agree? I can

613
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: definitely see what they would be why that would be

614
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: said about the Boarn This Way cover, But I would

615
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: argue that's more Gaga's fault than is at any rate

616
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: love the pod Um sweet Um. Okay you start with

617
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 1: I don't so. I have listened to his album and

618
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: especially that whatever the most famous song is, I assume

619
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: it was like the lead single. But I really like

620
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 1: what I've heard, and I also really like I think

621
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,439
Speaker 1: his aesthetic is like really fun, and I don't like

622
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: my relationship country music is pretty much like I like

623
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 1: the older women of country, like I like Dolly and

624
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, what is happening? There's like dirt on

625
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: my camera. Sorry anyway, I don't, But so I can't.

626
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: I can't speak to like his place in country music.

627
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: I I it's like not my world. I even though

628
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: I love some old countries, specifically the woman like I said,

629
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: but otherwise in terms of new stuff, I truly only

630
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: know like Casey Musgraves um and but yeah, I like him.

631
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: I haven't heard the word in this way cover. I

632
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: like him, and I also think he's very hot. I

633
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: just want to yeah, say I think I think I

634
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 1: love that first album. I think he's great. I also

635
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: love the look. I think it's all very fun. I

636
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: also like, I don't have much familiarity with country music,

637
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of gay men don't. Except

638
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: I love that we started this by saying it's so juicy,

639
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: and we're both like he's fine, well okay, but I

640
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: think the backlash towards him is interesting, and I think

641
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: it is I don't know what it is. Like people

642
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: are like, well, he used to do theater, so he sucks,

643
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: like he's not authentic, and it's like, bitch, no one's

644
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: authentic like that. He's a fucking musician. It's all branding

645
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 1: and like like he if he just likes this kind

646
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: of music and wants to like play this character basically

647
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: for like his musician thing, and that's fine, doesn't delegitimize him.

648
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: That's like, are we going to really do this after

649
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: like the Lawna del Rey thing of ten years ago

650
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm also just confused how this is different

651
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: than being a theater kid, Like he literally invented a

652
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: character and is playing the character, like, yeah, what do

653
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: you expect, Like it's like character with a full look

654
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: and it's super gay. Like it does not surprise me

655
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: that he has a background as being a music you know,

656
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: it's what is like musical theater kid. Yeah, it's also

657
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: there's like something about it. Okay, this is a leap,

658
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna take it. There's something about it. It's

659
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: like a different form of internalized homophobia where they like

660
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: kind of liked him because he was like, well, that's

661
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: he's not like other gay guys. And then they found

662
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: out that he does theater or did theater and they're like, um,

663
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: actually he is just like other gay guys, and now

664
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't like him anymore. I mean yeah, the level

665
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: of like it none of this matters. But I mean

666
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: actually it does matter because we're both trying to be

667
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: gay people and in the entertainment industry. But like no

668
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 1: gay like gay men ourselves included. Sometimes I have to admit,

669
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: like our instinct is to like not like other game

670
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: game mal or totally totally and that's something that's not

671
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: going to change ever ever. That yeah, that is That

672
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 1: is just how I feel about that. I also think

673
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: the Born This Way cover is insanely funny in a way.

674
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: He just does it like in his style like and

675
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: it's I think it's like so genius, it's so stupid,

676
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: like and I agree that it's like not he did,

677
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 1: he did what he does. It's like a stupid he

678
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: got the assignment. Yeah, and to make fun of it

679
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: is just like sometimes the Internet just turns on people

680
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: in a way that is dumb and sure. And I

681
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: also I just want to go on records saying I

682
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: love adventurous covers, like you have to put your own

683
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 1: spin on things. Yes, I think it's a damn smash.

684
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: I thought it was great. You know what I liked.

685
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: Recently I heard a little clip of this Um, the

686
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: one of the sisters in that duo that Beyonce funds

687
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: Oh Chloe and Holle Chhoe and Howe so Chloe. I

688
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: think UM did a ever of Nina Simone that people

689
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: were mad about, and I thought it was very fun.

690
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: I love them. One of my favorite albums the last summer. Truly,

691
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: it really takes me back. Next queue, This is from

692
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: Ali Total Glamour Girl here. Recently had a dream that

693
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: a girl that was mean to me in middle school

694
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: named Gianna was a guest on the podcast and you

695
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: guys really loved her. What do you think that means?

696
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: First of all, I love, I mean I love. Isn't

697
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: it always so humiliating when you have dreams about like

698
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: something as silly as a podcast, Like whenever I dreams

699
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: about anything that has to do with comedy, or like

700
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: the internet, or like I have had dreams about like

701
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: meeting people I like I know from the Internet. It's

702
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: just you're like, oh no, this is like this is

703
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: something I don't even want in my conscious life, and

704
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: now it's entering my subconscious life. Even I've been noticing

705
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: like when I have dreams that are like say, like

706
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: a sex dream, but then like you like just kind

707
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: of kiss and then like are like, no, we shouldn't

708
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: go further. It's like this is so it's to what

709
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: I just said, But you kind of get it. I mean,

710
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: I get what you mean, but those are different things.

711
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm literally like, why am I having like dreams about

712
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: things I don't like? And you're like, wait, why can't

713
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: I seal the deal? In my sex dreams? Those are

714
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: those are a perfect parallel, very very parallel, very parallel

715
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: when you then you slang is very parallel. I love that. Um,

716
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: what do you what do that means? What do you

717
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: think it means? Fine? Okay, Um, I think it means

718
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: you know what I think it means. I think I

719
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: think if we were always doing Earnestness Bonanza's, your dream

720
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: would be about how you were a guest. But I

721
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: think because we put up put on this act for

722
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 1: our normal episodes, you feel there's more of a distance

723
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: between you and us, So it makes more sense and

724
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: your subconscious that you or middle school bully would be

725
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: on the podcast rather than you because you're like, oh,

726
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: I could never be on that podcast. They are so weird.

727
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: But I assure you if you came on the podcast,

728
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: we would hit it off famously. And I actually think

729
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: this girl, Gianna sounds like a real bitch. I also

730
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: think it's there's something about um having to like see

731
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: your bully succeed or not succeed. I don't think like

732
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: being on our podcast as a form of success, but yeah,

733
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: but like having them be on something that you care

734
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: about and then like not be able to comment or

735
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: even like critique, like you can't like be like hey

736
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: stop like so to see them like flow through the

737
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: world is like annoying. And I think, um, that you're

738
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: annoyed that they're moving through the world still. Yeah, and

739
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: I mean not to be you know, I don't. I

740
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: have to say, I have had such insane dreams during

741
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: this past year that I am starting to believe they

742
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: mean something. Um. I do wonder if it says something

743
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 1: about like, if you're at a transitional place in your

744
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: life where you're thinking about your past, then that's why

745
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: you're imagining someone that used to be mean to you. Um.

746
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: Either way, I hope you come out on the other side.

747
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: And and and I assure you if you came on

748
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: the podcast, you would have a blast. You got this, girly,

749
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: you got this next question? Um oh, I started this one.

750
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: I kind of liked it. But in in post this

751
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: is from Dahlia in post COVID, New York, is it

752
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: more or less difficult to begin a career in stand

753
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 1: up comedy? I kind of thought this was a fun question, Yeah,

754
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: just because I do think there's something like I think

755
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: it is different post pandemic, but I think in a

756
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: way that for like a newcomer is better almost because

757
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: I think there's not as many like like there, I say,

758
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: chaos is ladder and it's sort of like, well, no

759
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: one has shows really, right, I think that's what it is,

760
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: is like you're essentially not walking into an existing seen.

761
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: You are coming here as everything is being rebuilt, so

762
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, of course, some people have higher

763
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: profiles and other people or know the right people, or

764
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: are able to start shows more easily. But I really

765
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: think that like a lot of um momentum was cut

766
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: and so now a lot of people are starting from scratch.

767
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: And I mean and also frankly, I think a lot

768
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: of people in our age group or I hope honestly,

769
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: because that's how I feel like I'm having a little

770
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: bit of I'm not trying to like enter head first

771
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: and do multiple shows a night yet, like I just

772
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: am not. I don't have the hunger that I did

773
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and so I I think

774
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: you're not You're competing with various people like that, Like

775
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: I think some of the older people are tired. Yeah, um, yeah,

776
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, there's never a right time and

777
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 1: there's never a wrong time pursuing uh, comedy is a

778
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: fool's errand um, and so go off. And I think

779
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: I don't know it. I don't really know what the

780
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: answer this question is. But I do think there's something

781
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: so strange about just realizing how limiting stand up comedy

782
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: specifically is. And I think that's not a good or

783
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: bad thing. I think it's actually in fact good to

784
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: like work on material in an enclosed environment with only

785
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: a few people at a time. Like I think that's

786
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: like good for developing a voice, but like it is

787
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: difficult to convince yourself that you need to do that

788
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: when so many things and so many technologies, right, you're

789
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: just yeah, and yeah, I think I guess like I

790
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: feel yeah, I think I was very into stand up

791
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 1: obviously before the pandemic, and I'm still like, I'm excited

792
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: for that moment when I like get back into it

793
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: and like in a real way where it's like performing

794
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: multiple times a night or week or whatever. But I

795
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: am less eager to get to that point at this

796
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: time because it's just even with it stopped, I feel like,

797
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like a lot of career

798
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: momentum continued and it was kind of like, oh wait,

799
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: I can kind of choose when I want to work

800
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: on stand up in a way that is different than

801
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: what I thought. I thought I always had to be

802
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: doing it, and and I will say, well, and now

803
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 1: we're just talking about ourselves and not answering this, which

804
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: is kind of you know, again the Narcis system. The beginning,

805
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: I do feel like that's they want just to to

806
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: answer that. Like I think I used to be such

807
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: a purist about stand up and I was actually even

808
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: past the point where that was like a trendy way

809
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: to be. Like I was even when I moved to

810
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: New York and everyone around me was doing, like I

811
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: don't know, various different things and they weren't only focusing

812
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: about stand up, and they were doing like music and

813
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: they were doing there was always a part of me

814
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: that was like, this is all less certain, Like I'm

815
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: doing real comedy because I'm doing set up, punchline stand up,

816
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: and um, I just simply don't particularly believe that anymore.

817
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: Like I just think there are many different ways to

818
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: do comedy. Yeah, so come on to New York or don't.

819
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: I hate to say this, but there is a part

820
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: of me that's like, in the same way that even

821
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: if you are truly like a post postmodern painter who

822
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: just like licks a canvas or something, you still learn

823
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: the basics in art school. There is a part of me,

824
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: I know this is conservative that thinks everyone should learn

825
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: the basics of joke writing before they do something more experimental.

826
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: But but at the same time, I'm aware that that's

827
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: like a slightly conservative part of me, and I don't

828
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: think I'm correct. I just I unfortunately it's hard for

829
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: me to not, you know, I've internalized that because I mean,

830
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: I I have also internalized that I feel. I mean,

831
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: I think I did it sort of the opposite way

832
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: where I started doing like really absurd weird stuff and

833
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: like just screaming and running around the stage, and then

834
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, if I want to get anywhere,

835
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: I need to figure this the real stuff out. So

836
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: that has been my focus, and I look like sometimes

837
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: I get jealous of the younger people who are just

838
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: coming in and screaming and running around the stage because

839
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm like that I used to do that, and my

840
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: weird was whittled away by the fucking industry and stand

841
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: up showcases. But now I'm like whatever, Like I'm glad

842
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 1: that I'm good at writing jokes and I'm looking forward

843
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: to the day when I'm crazy again. So my answer

844
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: is you should start stand up. It's a good time,

845
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: but don't let it make you crazy. Yeah, next question,

846
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: and also, don't like accept like just don't. Um. I'm

847
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 1: just there are like many people that were like borderline

848
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: abuses when I was starting out, and it's just like don't.

849
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: And again, um, it's obviously not in everyone's control when

850
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: to accept or not accept types of abuse. I'm not

851
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: saying like just say no and then leave, Like, of

852
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: course it's more complicated than that. But like, if you

853
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: see someone being toxic, like just don't, it's not worth

854
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: your time. That's okay. Next one, this is me I think.

855
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: So okay, this is from Ted. I'm wondering who was

856
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: the first gay person each of you met and what

857
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: did you make and what did it make you feel

858
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: and realize about yourself. I'm also wondering, um, rapids sustained

859
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 1: friction or young adult fantasy fiction? Love that? Okay, wait,

860
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 1: just answer the straight shooter first. Oh Um, I'm gonna

861
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: go rapids rapids stan friction. Same, And I just want

862
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: to say there are many people that submitted strade shooters,

863
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: and I didn't starve them this time, but I think

864
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: at some point I'm going to go through and like

865
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: find a bunch of users submitted ones, and we can

866
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: do them either at a live shore, at a at

867
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: a at an episode a future episode. Okay, so, who

868
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: was the first gay person you met? And what it

869
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 1: he or she or they make you feel and realize?

870
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: This is a tough queue. I agree because I feel like, um, okay,

871
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,760
Speaker 1: this is maybe a dramatics. I feel like the first

872
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: like out gay people I met. And maybe I misremembering this,

873
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: but it was like my parents were friends with the

874
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: lesbian couple in when I was in like freshman year

875
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: of high school in Michigan, which was rare um because

876
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: we were in like a small town in Michigan. Um.

877
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: But I guess I remember thinking I didn't get much

878
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: out of them, Like I was kind of like they

879
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: were like very different than like like they were like

880
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: fancy and they were sorry. No, I think they were

881
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: actually closer to Ellen and Porsche. They were very like wealthy,

882
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: and so I didn't like they were very distant to me,

883
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 1: I felt, but they were also they tried to be nice,

884
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: but they. I guess I mostly saw like how my

885
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: parents and their friends interacted with them and what that meant.

886
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: Like I remember like my parents like almost being overly

887
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: like trying to like not press any buttons and be

888
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: like but then also kind of like like I remember

889
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 1: like somebody making a gay joke at the dinner party

890
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: and being like, you know that she's a lesbian, like

891
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: like they're in the other room, and I was like, Okay,

892
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: this is weird because even like well meaning people that

893
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: are friends with a lesbian couple are like sort of

894
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: cracking these jokes like and yeah, but I but it's

895
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 1: not I mean there was home publia was rampant at

896
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: the time, and it's not like homophobia was a surprise.

897
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: It was just I guess I was surprised that it

898
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: was like even adults who are friends with lesbians are

899
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: making jokes like that. But um, I wish I had

900
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: more fun, Like I don't remember like the first I

901
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: don't know, do you have a good answer for this one?

902
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: I actually just it's I just like had an actual

903
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: memory of the of Again, who knows if it was

904
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: the first because like I'm sure, like I bet you

905
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: there was a time when I was even younger that

906
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: like the front desk person at a hotel was getting

907
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, just like a random person that I like,

908
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure clocked and had some feeling about. But I

909
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: can't necessarily remember that. I will say I must have

910
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: been I it must have been maybe this summer after

911
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 1: my sophomore year of high school. UM, I was living

912
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: in Greece, but I went to a like academic camp

913
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: in UM Maryland, and I distinctly remember there was one

914
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: kid in the camp that was my age that it

915
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: was a guy who identified as bisexual, and and I

916
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:15,319
Speaker 1: found very attractive, and like there was I who knows

917
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: if it was real or imagine, but we're like very

918
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: close friends. And in my mind I was always like

919
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: I don't know. I remember like sitting at a table

920
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: and maybe our knees touched by accident, and I was

921
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: like so taken with that and whatever else, And um,

922
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: I think I did try to do a whole like

923
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,800
Speaker 1: I did, like tell people I have a crush. Nothing

924
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: nothing ended up happening, and I don't know if it

925
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: was even reciprocated, But it was also like it was

926
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: one of those things where I was not even ready

927
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: to come out to anyone I had I had never

928
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: before or after that for years like consider that. But

929
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: it was just like, well I have to act now.

930
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 1: This is the only buy or gay person I will

931
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: ever meet. There was this there's this very like scarcity thing.

932
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: Like I remember again in Greece, I was taking driving

933
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: lessons in this like small group setting. And I mean,

934
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: I should say my parents are not, you know, very

935
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: progressive people, but they simply just didn't have gay friends

936
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: when I was growing up. Like that was just not

937
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: There were no gay couples that like a dinner party

938
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: or something. But um, so I just like was not

939
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: exposed to him. There was no one out in my

940
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: high school in Greece. But I remember like taking these

941
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,319
Speaker 1: driving lessons there was like truly like a forty year

942
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: old gay guy that was like you know, um, I'm

943
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: trying to think. The vibe was very like entourage of

944
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: a mid tier pop star. Like he had like bleached

945
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: blonde hair and like was wearing kind of like weird,

946
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 1: ill fitting clothes and like very you know, h and

947
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: m of two thousand seven type thing, and I there

948
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: was no part of me was attracted to him. But

949
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: I remember thinking like, well, this is my one option,

950
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: like I have to have sex with him. Nothing happened, thankfully,

951
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,720
Speaker 1: because I was literally like sixty and he was forty.

952
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 1: But like in my mind, I was like, Okay, well,

953
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: how do I make this happen? Like this is my

954
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: only option? Yeah, and and to that, I definitely feel

955
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: like I think a more accurate thing is like when

956
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: I met like out people my own age, like in college,

957
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: like meeting like when I was like my first week

958
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,880
Speaker 1: of college, truly meeting like an r A who's like

959
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: just out and I was like, WHOA, I did not

960
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: know that was allowed. And then I was also like, okay,

961
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: well then we should hook up, like we're going to

962
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: hook up, and it was like obviously, no, you're not.

963
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: Like I mean, can I tell you something that is

964
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 1: the thing that I only foully got over not too

965
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: many years ago, Like the idea, I mean, of course,

966
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: now we're around gay people all the time, but like

967
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: the idea that like, oh there's a gay person here,

968
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: I guess I have to decide whether or not we

969
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: have to hook up. Yeah, the scarcity thing is really

970
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: very weird. Alright, let's move on. Okay. This is from

971
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: our good friend Alex okay, And they say, is it

972
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: okay to get my first tattoo after thirty or should

973
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: I be embarrassed for even considering it? Okay, I want

974
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: to hear your answer to this. I say it is, um,

975
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: absolutely okay. I think the thirty barrier. You know, I'm

976
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: guilty of putting this. I made a lot of jokes

977
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: about when I turned thirty, like when I was twenty six,

978
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: and I very much think they are so stupid now

979
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: and I still think. I mean, you can comment on

980
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: how like a lot of people make those jokes, and

981
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: I think those jokes can be funny, but I think

982
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: like the thirty barrier is like stupid, and like I

983
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: just think, like, first of all, I'm turning thirty and

984
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: fully like three weeks and I am very like I

985
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: think also a lot of my friends are older, so

986
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: I've felt like I've been thirty for a long time.

987
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: And if anything, I'm like, finally I can stop being

988
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: embarrassed to have a to in front of my age.

989
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: Um and uh and I And this is the corniest

990
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: thing I will ever say. But Amy Poehler said in

991
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: some kind of interview he's quoting Amy, do you know

992
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say. In some interviews, she said, your

993
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,360
Speaker 1: twenties are about figuring out who you're not, your thirties

994
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: are about figuring out who you are, and then in

995
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: your forties you're like, well this is who I am.

996
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: Like there's you're kind of like you become okay with it,

997
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, how how much more exciting to

998
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: be in the phase where you're figuring out who you

999
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: are than in the phase or your figure out what

1000
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: you're not? Like I think that sounds so nice. Yeah.

1001
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: I It's also like that tattoo that you get after

1002
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: thirty is going to be relevant longer. I will, I say,

1003
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: you know, I, well, we won't say this person's last name,

1004
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: but they are a writer, and I have, in fact

1005
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: the gun reading their work, and I'll say they are

1006
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: very talented and have good taste, and I trust that

1007
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: the tattoo that they choose will be very chic and

1008
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: uh cool and not embarrassing. I thought you gonna say

1009
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: delicious for some reason, and I was like that would

1010
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:59,600
Speaker 1: be such a weird description. Um next, so this is

1011
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 1: okay my questions more, but I can read this if

1012
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: it's because it's to you, maybe I should read no,

1013
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: it's fine, well, because then it will make the order difficult.

1014
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,320
Speaker 1: It's for me and it's someone So this is Laura,

1015
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: and Laura is saying, my question is more for George

1016
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: than Sam, unless Sam has read the uber of this

1017
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: particular author. But what are your takes on the writing

1018
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Eugeneita. I guess it's in English turnounce ugenityes

1019
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: Um specifically, any thoughts on the marriage Okay, I will

1020
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: say this. I have only read Um Middlesex, and I

1021
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. And actually there was a point at

1022
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: which everyone in my family read it, like not exactly together,

1023
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: but like within like three months of one another, and

1024
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: it was actually really nice that everyone was reading the

1025
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 1: same book and I felt like I was in a

1026
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: family wide book club. UM. I really enjoyed it, and

1027
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: I thought it was like very very cool to have

1028
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: a queer Greek main character. UM. And then I've read

1029
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,280
Speaker 1: when I was too young, I started The Virgin Suicides

1030
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: and like did not get it, and I have been

1031
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: meaning to revisit it as I get older, but I

1032
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 1: have not, unfortunately read the marriage plot, although now that

1033
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: I know that it is a glamor girl's favorite one

1034
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: maybe it's time for me to give it a chance.

1035
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: And I want to say, um, Laura, you are lucky

1036
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 1: because I almost unstarred this one because I said books,

1037
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I cannot believe you almost unstarted. I

1038
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: almost unstarted, And I said, where's the heart? Where's the

1039
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: vulnerability within this question? Um? But you know I'm glad that. Yeah,

1040
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're really glad. I got to answer that one.

1041
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: Next question, U, okay, this is you, Hi, Babes Bebett's

1042
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: and Bebecks is from b UM. I was hoping you

1043
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: could talk a bit about the process of finding a

1044
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: potential home for the pot Okay, this is the juicy question.

1045
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: When it first came out, I was really surprised it

1046
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: wasn't hosted on a particular canine themed podcast network. No

1047
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: shade would be there alarm that one. Um. Have you

1048
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: been in talks with different networks about being adopted under

1049
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: their umbrella? How do you envision balancing artistic integrity and

1050
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: queering the podcast form with with the expectations, pressure, capitalist

1051
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: restrictions that come from different networks? Are there any hard

1052
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: lines in the sand you won't cross? Where do we start? Well? Um, okay, well, yeah,

1053
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: so we we have thought of yes, it's it's it's

1054
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: an ongoing process. I'll say that, and like we we've

1055
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: got sorry, go ahead, I think I have a good

1056
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: entry point. Like okay, So when we started this podcast,

1057
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 1: we originally did intend to start it on a network,

1058
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: and then we were advised to just started on our

1059
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: own and then we could like pitch it with the

1060
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,440
Speaker 1: the the episodes we have and and sort of show

1061
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Speaker 1: people what the vibe would be, which then sort of

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Speaker 1: ended up being not necessarily great advice, but you know,

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Speaker 1: we mostly figured out. We did pitch to a couple

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Speaker 1: of places, like when we were like a year in uh,

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Speaker 1: and it we sort of found out that like the

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Speaker 1: business landscape quote unquote of podcasting is bizarre and like

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Speaker 1: constantly shifting, and you know it is just like supremely

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Speaker 1: numbers based and that that bar is always going up.

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Speaker 1: And so we like we're disappointed, if I can be earnest,

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Speaker 1: that like it didn't sell even in that time, because

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Speaker 1: we are very proud of it, and we've like we're

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Speaker 1: genuinely looking for like production support and stuff. But like

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Speaker 1: in the end, we also have talked to other people

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Speaker 1: and it seems like maybe it could be a blessing

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Speaker 1: in disguise to have it as a solo project. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean the thing is we um without managing too

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Speaker 1: many deals, like yeah, we are, our numbers are some

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Speaker 1: are the same as other people who are on networks,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, it's just because I don't want it

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Speaker 1: to seem like we're not not like she's not there yet.

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Speaker 1: We're not there yet, Like it's not exactly that. It's

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Speaker 1: that and many of the meetings we took actually like

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Speaker 1: almost went somewhere and that like there was one place

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Speaker 1: that would have been really good that we like, um,

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Speaker 1: we're in talks with them, then last minute didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: It was it was a frustrating process that I'm sure

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Speaker 1: was made more frustrating by the pandemic, and frankly during

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Speaker 1: the pandemic because so many actual, like fully like celebrities

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Speaker 1: have entered the podcasting world. It's just more difficult to

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Speaker 1: be a smaller comedy podcast like the market it just

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Speaker 1: isn't the same as it was even one or two

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Speaker 1: years ago. So I think it was. It was it

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Speaker 1: was a question of timing. But I have to say,

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Speaker 1: and I truly am not just saying this because I'm like, um,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, trying to find a silver lining. I

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Speaker 1: fully believe this, like it is. Most people we talked

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Speaker 1: to who were on networks have some major deal breaking

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Speaker 1: complained And I think even though going at it independently

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Speaker 1: is difficult, I am actually pretty excited ultimately that we're

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Speaker 1: doing it, and I'm happy are also that we're taking

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Speaker 1: the summer to kind of figure out the specifics and

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Speaker 1: things like that. So yeah, but it is just like

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Speaker 1: to be like, because I don't want it to seem

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Speaker 1: like it was, like it is truly, it keeps growing

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Speaker 1: every week and every month. It is at a very

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Speaker 1: good size and in fact is exactly what kind of

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Speaker 1: podcast that like a year and a half ago would

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Speaker 1: have sold pretty easily, which makes things really difficult. I

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Speaker 1: mean that's just how it is. Yeah, it is frustrating

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Speaker 1: because of that. Um but yeah, and I think that

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Speaker 1: is a big part of Yeah, like you said, why this,

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Speaker 1: We're taking this break so that we can figure out

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Speaker 1: um more sustainable ways to like run it independently, so

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Speaker 1: that we're not panicking every Monday night. Hello, this is George,

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Speaker 1: and this is that time we have now recorded. We

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Speaker 1: have now recorded Part one, then Part two, then the

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Speaker 1: intro for Part two, and we have now decided to

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Speaker 1: record an outro for part one because it be behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes peak. My my recording crashed due to me,

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Speaker 1: in fact, deleting it as it was being recorded. Don't

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Speaker 1: ask how that happened, Just know that I did do

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Speaker 1: that on my like, I fully dragged the file as

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Speaker 1: it was being recorded into the trash and then emptied

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Speaker 1: the trash. So think about that and then think, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so what you're hearing right now is probably extremely jarring

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Speaker 1: because you were just in the middle of a question essentially,

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Speaker 1: and now you're hearing us say we're doing our outro.

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Speaker 1: But that's what we're doing, because that's what we're doing,

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Speaker 1: and there simply is another part and we just couldn't

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Speaker 1: end this first part abruptly and then go to the

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Speaker 1: second part. We had to put in an intro and

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Speaker 1: that that's what we're doing. So that's what we're doing.

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Speaker 1: So part I'm sorry, Okay, sorry we're not perfect, and

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Speaker 1: sorry it didn't happen organically, and sorry I didn't not

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Speaker 1: delete the file as it was being recorded, as though

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Speaker 1: you all haven't done that. Get them. I'm really sorry

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Speaker 1: I yelled at you guys. It's okay. I'm sure that

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Speaker 1: they'll forget. I don't want to. I am We're the

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Speaker 1: mood of the day is grateful. I'll say that. I

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Speaker 1: don't even want to be ironically rude to our listeners.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's nice, thank you. Um. Yeah, So essentially, um,

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Speaker 1: this is weird of us two. We're coming in so hot.

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Speaker 1: We were in sort of a groove of answering earnestness questions,

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Speaker 1: and now we're doing an outro that's a wildly different tone,

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Speaker 1: wildly different tone, wildly different Sam, I am truly fading. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's cut back to okay, so um anyway, um, thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening to part one. Part two will come out

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Speaker 1: I think in on Thursday, and um we'll see you

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Speaker 1: then for our emotional conclusion. Okay, bye. And the end

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Speaker 1: in the hand, the hand in the end, the end

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Speaker 1: of the ind of an