1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Great Eric Bowling. 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: Tonight we're started the cold open. We're going to Georgia. 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: We're going to Georgia. We're going to talk to our 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 2: own Brian Glenn. Is there about a I don't know, 5 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: pretty wild town hall maybe on the horizon at six o'clock. 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: Let's get the cold open and get rolling here in 7 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: the war. 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 3: Room, let's give you the headlines of the news coming 9 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 3: out of China. There's a report that China has told 10 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 3: its airlines to halt deliveries of new Boeing aircraft as 11 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 3: well as parts. Now, this is one report. It has 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: not been confirmed by the state government, at least not 13 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 3: in a statement yet. Just for some context, China has 14 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 3: taken delivery of eighteen Boeing aircraft this year, eighteen new aircraft. 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 3: But the order backlog is immense out of China, and 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: when you look at it, they've got one hundred and 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 3: twenty eight named orders one hundreds more that are in 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 3: the queue but have not been named to specific Chinese airlines. 19 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: There's also report with regard to Terris that is going 20 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 3: to catch a lot of attention. Ryanair CEO Michael o'liy, 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 3: a friend of the Squawkbox crew, He told the FT 22 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: today that there is every likelihood they may delay Boeing 23 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 3: aircraft deliveries due to tariffs. And this is what we've 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: heard war chatter about within the last week. Guys that 25 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 3: airlines are going to say, wait a second, I got 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: to pay a tariff on this aircraft. 27 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 4: Maybe I don't need it right now. You hold on 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 4: to it now. 29 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 3: This is just the comments of Michael O'Leary, But this 30 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: has been percolating under the surface a little bit within 31 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: the airline industry that has this tariff war heats up 32 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: the implications for Boeing, for Airbus, it could be there 33 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: could be large ripple effects. 34 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 5: Move well, this administration is just saying, sorry, we just 35 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 5: can't do anything about it. 36 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, what does that say about where we're going to be? 37 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: Where we're going to be? 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 7: This is where this segment and the segment you just 39 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 7: completed intersect. If you're going to move the United States, 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 7: with all of its institutions, toward more authoritarian form of government, 41 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 7: the president ignores the court's rules by decree. You need 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 7: to hold your party in Congress together, because Congress becomes 43 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 7: the way of protecting you from what the courts can do, 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 7: which is an issue. 45 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: Summons is for contempt civil or criminal. 46 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 7: If you want to hold your party in Congress together, 47 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 7: you'd better deliver relative economic success. So they're not all 48 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 7: sweating that they're about to lose forty seats in the 49 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 7: next midterms and face a defeat so big that even 50 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 7: jerry mandering and friendly judges and places like North Carolina 51 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 7: and Wisconsin can't help them. But Donald Trump is not 52 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 7: doing that. He's not holding up his end of the bargain. 53 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 7: In his first term, Trump mostly avoided doing anything too 54 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 7: stupid with the economy until the second half of twenty eighteen, 55 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 7: when he started doing tariffs that were pretty small compared 56 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 7: to those he's just instituted. In this administration, he's begun 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 7: wreaking havoc on the economy from the beginning. We've had 58 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 7: financial panic. So far, it's not showing up in the 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 7: real economy, mostly because people in business have warehoused large 60 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 7: amounts of inventory, so we're not going to start running 61 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 7: out of tube sox just yet. But by mids the 62 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 7: real economy is going to be feeling it. You are 63 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 7: going to see layoffs, you're going to see rising unemployment, 64 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 7: and you're going to see Republicans in Congress sweat. So 65 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 7: Trump has not, as usual, thought this through. He's made 66 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 7: a very ambitious bid for executive power, ignoring the courts, 67 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 7: while his economy is about to fall apart underneath. 68 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: Let me, this is the primal scream of a dying regime. 69 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 2: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on 70 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: these people. 71 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: You've not got a free shot. 72 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: All these networks lying about the people, the people have. 73 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: Had a belly full of it. I know you don't 74 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: like hearing that. I know you tried to do everything 75 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: in the world to stop that, but you're not going 76 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do 77 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: people like that go to share the big line? 78 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 4: Mega media? I wish in my soul, I wish that 79 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 4: any of these people had a conscience. 80 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? 81 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 8: If that answer is to save my country, this country 82 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 8: will say war room. 83 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: Here's your host, Stephen Kba. 84 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, fifteen April, Year of our Lord, twenty twenty five, 85 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: President Trump and the losing of Congress. 86 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: This is their new You know. 87 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 2: They've done the they've done the financial panic. Nothing's happening there. 88 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 2: They did the signal chat. Nothing's there now. They're in 89 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: the constitutional crisis with the courts. 90 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Margot Cleveland on. 91 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 2: From the Federalist in a few minutes. I want to 92 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 2: go to Brian Glenn about losing Congress. Brian, where are you? 93 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: I notice you're not the White House this afternoon? Where 94 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 2: are you, sir? 95 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 8: Not today? I am in Acworth, Georgia. That is up 96 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 8: in the fourteenth District Congressional district here in Georgia. 97 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: I've got Brian Glenn. Let's try to get it rebooted. 98 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: Do I have Brian? You got us now, sir? 99 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: Yep? 100 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: Do you hear me? Yeah? 101 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 8: I've got you. Loud and click. 102 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: Okay, you're coming through very chopping, Brian. Want to try 103 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 2: that again? Where are you this afternoon? You're not at 104 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: the White House? 105 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 8: Backworth to Georgia. 106 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: That's up. We're got to reboot. 107 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: Hey, Brian, We're going to reboot you to make sure 108 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: that we get to get it across better because it's 109 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: coming into choppy. This is too important. Brian Glenn is 110 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 2: down with mtg. Uh they're going to have a town hall. 111 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 2: MTGS not backing off. You know, the RNC and other 112 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 2: people are saying, don't have town halls. Don't have town halls. 113 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: There's a big protest down there. MTG she's got a 114 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: spine of steel. She's going to go into it tonight 115 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: with her constituents and take on all comers. So we're 116 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: going to get back to Brian when we get a 117 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: better hook up. We're also gonna have MTG live a 118 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 2: little later in the show. Let's go to we have 119 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: Natalie Winners. Let's go to Natalie. Natalie, You've got some 120 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: breaking news out of the White House. Of course, everybody's 121 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 2: skirts clean here about attack President Trump. And you know 122 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: we started we had the Eric Bowling had the big 123 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: SOB story coming. 124 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: Out of Maryland. You know Maryland Man. 125 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 2: All the politicians going to fly down to l Salvador 126 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 2: to go to the prison to bring the gang member 127 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: home that President Trump rightfully sent to a prison in 128 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: Central America. You've got a breaking story on some of 129 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: your analysis on one of these judges. What do you 130 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: got for us, ma'am of people trying to block President Trump? 131 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 9: Well, may I just say Steve that I wish Republicans 132 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 9: in Congress would be the MAGA fire breathers that all 133 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 9: of the MSNBC hosts talk them up to be. 134 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 6: Maybe they should use that as some inspiration. 135 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 9: I think this country would be in a much better 136 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 9: place the so called authoritarian takeover that President Trump has 137 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 9: tried to roll out over a bunch of weeks, fineleist Republicans, 138 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 9: I think it would be in a much better place. 139 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 9: I would just point you to the thirty seven trillion 140 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 9: dollar deficit, but all of that aside, and though I 141 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 9: guess it's maybe all interlinked, because I best, I guess 142 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 9: the best that Congress could do when it comes to 143 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 9: holding these rogue judges account is have some subcommittee level 144 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 9: hearing that does absolutely nothing. Though I think they canceled it. 145 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 9: We have another judge. The judge is now responsible for 146 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 9: blocking what would be the removal of over five hundred 147 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 9: thousand people here at CHNV parole program. This is a 148 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 9: Boston District judge, an Obama appointee, of course, in Deira Tulwani. 149 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 9: But what is you can probably guess so interesting about her. 150 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 9: She has volunteered on several Democratic campaigns. 151 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 10: This is of course. 152 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 9: Exclusive reporting for you guys here in the War Room, 153 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 9: including but not limited to knocking doors, holding signs, and 154 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 9: phone banking on behalf of people like President Barack Obama 155 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 9: and Elizabeth Warren. But even more concerning, in twenty twelve, 156 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 9: she received an award from the Chinese Progressive Association. 157 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 10: The audience may be. 158 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 9: Semi familiar with this group because they've funded Black Lives Matter, 159 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 9: but they've actually have deep, deep ties to the Chinese 160 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 9: Communist Party, particularly in their found They were founded by 161 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 9: a group of pro Maw Marxist. 162 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 6: Militants, and there's really been a through line. 163 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 9: They continually praise not just the Chinese Communist Party and 164 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 9: in turn get glowing coverage from Chinese state run media outlets, 165 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 9: but their founders have praised essentially the Cultural Revolution. And 166 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 9: just to add yet another conflict of interest to this, 167 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 9: like I said, Judge who was trying to advocate to 168 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 9: keep hundreds of a thousands of legal aliens in this country, 169 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 9: her brother has repeatedly been involved with and held events, 170 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 9: headlined events with the ACLU out in Montana. But you 171 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 9: have to remember the ACLU is really the railhead of 172 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 9: a lot of this pro open border stuff, particularly when 173 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 9: it comes to the law fair against President Trump and 174 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 9: even some of these parole programs. So this is yet 175 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 9: again the latest example of a radical rogue judge who 176 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 9: is stepping in the way trying to stop President Trump 177 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 9: from deporting I was about to say criminal gang members. 178 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 9: That's a whole other vertical, but in this case, probably 179 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 9: just criminals and maybe some gang members. 180 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 2: You know, I can tell from the there was a 181 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: smattering the same type of kind of hapless protests. There 182 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: were it in when I spoke out in Colorado. You know, 183 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 2: you have these democrats, socialists and some of these other people. 184 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 2: It's it's the First Amendment, right, That's fine. It's a 185 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: little bit pathetic if that's. 186 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: All they can gin up. 187 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: I have noticed, though, a shift, and this is not 188 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: about the deportation of the of the the criminal element, 189 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: but already, and I don't think you know, I don't 190 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,959 Speaker 2: see we're going gangbusters on deporting unmassed deportations of which 191 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 2: we're a strong advocate for here in the war room. 192 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: But I noticed on the left they're starting to pick 193 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: this up. 194 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 2: There's tons of footage on the Rachil Mattaw of these 195 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: protests are going around. They're talking about, oh, we're trying 196 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 2: to get ahead of we're here for mass deportations. Specifically, 197 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: what was it that the Trump administration was trying to 198 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: do of these four or five one hundred thousand. 199 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: People that the judge specifically blocked. 200 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: What was the article to action that the president took 201 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: as chief executive officer, as commander chief and the armed 202 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: forces as the chief law enforcement officer. 203 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: What was he trying to do that was blocked? 204 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 10: Well, I think that's sort of what the crux of 205 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 10: this is. 206 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 9: Right, If Joe Biden was allowed to, with the stroke 207 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 9: of a pen, allow these people to grant humanitarian parole 208 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 9: become more or less sort of de facto of citizens, 209 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 9: President Trump is not being gifted that same right. And 210 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 9: you don't even have to go full blown unitary executive theory, 211 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 9: I think to believe that you should have shall we say, 212 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 9: reciprocity and equality in terms of what presidents can do. 213 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 9: But I think that you're very right that this is 214 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 9: the issue that the kind of left wing shot troops 215 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 9: have honed in on. 216 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 6: But I do think there is a very interesting distinction. 217 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 9: Because now you're hearing the term right concentration camp come 218 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 9: up a lot. They're starting to really go full blown snowballs, 219 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 9: fully down the Hill in terms of smearing what they're 220 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 9: doing in El Salvador as really brutally repressive in the 221 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 9: you know. 222 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 6: Un Geneva Convention idea of whatever. Human rights. Maybe, but 223 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 6: remember what they did the first term. 224 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 9: They were much more focused and honed in on divesting 225 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 9: from ICE, divesting from companies that were working with ICE. 226 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 10: They were really trying to use the sort of you know. 227 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 9: Corporate blackmail structures right, sort of delinking whether its federal 228 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 9: contracts or just opposing these companies that were collaborating with 229 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 9: what they viewed as sort of enablers of President Trump's 230 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 9: first term agenda in terms of the deportation or curtailing 231 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 9: immigration numbers. And I think it's just quite interesting that 232 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 9: we really have yet to see that whole effort spring up. 233 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 10: I'm not saying we won't. 234 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 9: I think inevitably we will, but it seems like right 235 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 9: now they're sort of just assembling. And I think that 236 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 9: you know, on the ground protests or at least that's 237 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 9: what all the you know, dark money is propping up. 238 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 9: But I think the important thing too to stress and 239 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 9: I think, like you said, the deportation numbers need to 240 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 9: be higher, they need to be a lot higher at 241 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 9: is that I think we also need to see criminal prosecutions, 242 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 9: if not just investigations into the elites who rolled out 243 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 9: the red carpet. 244 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 6: For these people. 245 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 9: Right, it's not just retribution to go after the people 246 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 9: from Mexico or Honduras or any of the parole countries, right, Cuba. 247 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 10: Haiti, whatever. 248 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 9: You have to go after the NGOs, the politicians, the 249 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 9: Democrat operatives, even the foreign money who allowed these people 250 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 9: and not just allowed, but flew them to the fricking 251 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 9: southern border, to allow these people into the country. And 252 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 9: I think that is what is missing from the current 253 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 9: kind of effort to go after this because make no mistake, 254 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 9: if you don't go after those people, they will come 255 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 9: back with a vengeance right when they regain power, and 256 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 9: they will. If they will flood this country, ten million 257 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 9: will look like child's play. 258 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 10: They'll do ten. 259 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 6: Million a year. 260 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 9: So I don't understand why we have not seen investigations 261 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 9: or at least, like you say, just one name, one 262 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 9: name of from somebody who has committed the worst acts, 263 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 9: not just criminality, but outright treason on the southern border. 264 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 9: And I think that focusing on that, I would like 265 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 9: to see those protesters try to cover for those people. 266 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 9: I think that you can have a more sympathetic appeal 267 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 9: when you're talking about. 268 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 6: You know, some Maryland man, which we know is not 269 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 6: a Maryland man. But going after these NGOs, I think 270 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 6: is the right thing to do. 271 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 10: And I don't know why they haven't done it. 272 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: Natalie, I might ask you to hang on. We're going 273 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: to come back. We're going to go to Margret Cleveland's here. 274 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: Tell me the constitutional crisis. I want to bring you 275 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: back after that. 276 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: I want to drill down on this because I'm seeing 277 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 2: this theme across many areas of the Justice Department, FBI. 278 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: People we support, but you know, the mass deportations have 279 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: not started, and I think people start to ask questions 280 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: this whole thing about the NGOs, and we see how 281 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 2: powerful this is the other day, the Catholic bishops, who 282 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 2: have been doing this for over fifty years, announced they 283 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: were dropping the whole program. 284 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: Why because the federal. 285 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: And finally cut off the money to the NGO to 286 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: Catholic charities. You have to go after these ng os. 287 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: Now, you have to basically break this apart. You have 288 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: to start investigations. 289 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: The reason is you have to assume for planning purposes 290 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 2: and for sensor urgency. You're not going to be here forever. 291 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 2: We intend to be here forever. But you can't act 292 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 2: like that. This is the FBI, the DOJ DHS. I mean, 293 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: we've got to get on with it. And this issue 294 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 2: about the injury is where we're actually go where we're 295 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: focusing on. Our time is of utmost importance. We're going 296 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: to take a short commercial break. 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We had a great Cameron Kinsey from President 316 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 2: Trump's first terms with us this morning. 317 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: Walk through all the details, but call it today. 318 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: You get a complete download and let that anxiety and 319 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: angst go away. 320 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: Okay, there's all this talk. 321 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: Are and seeing they're all on MSBC and the New 322 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: York Times and CNN and b everywhere that the Republicans 323 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 2: are afraid to have town halls. One person that is 324 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: not afraid is Marjorie Taylor Green. One of the reasons 325 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 2: she's such a prominent fixture in leaders in MAGA and 326 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 2: someone that the President of States listens to for advice 327 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 2: and ask for guidance on certain issues is because she's fearless. 328 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: Brian Glenn, you're in Georgia today in her district. What's 329 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: going to happen at six o'clock, sir? 330 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 8: Okay, I'm out in front of the Acworth kind of 331 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 8: a convention center they have in this town that's up 332 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 8: in the fourteenth district in Georgia. It's on the probably 333 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 8: one of the newest areas that have been redissing, so 334 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 8: this is kind of a newer MTG area. But starting 335 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 8: at six o'clock, she's going to hold a town hall. 336 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 8: So it's only allowed. Like some of the other town 337 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 8: halls you might have seen held by Republicans, they have 338 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 8: not had proof that you actually live in this district, 339 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 8: so she's only letting people in. Oh, your ID prove 340 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 8: that you live in this district, you get to go inside. 341 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 8: They expect about three hundred to three hundred and fifty 342 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 8: people inside this area. Now, there is some protesters, and 343 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 8: I'll post up the video. They're just across the street 344 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 8: with their little chants, and we expected that they expect 345 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 8: over about four hundred Steve protesters that are organized to 346 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 8: come out here and make their voices be heard. And 347 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 8: of course Marjorie expects a few to sneak inside and 348 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 8: perhaps they want to make their voice be heard as well. 349 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: But we've got. 350 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 8: Probably dozens and dozens of local state police here. We've 351 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 8: got a drone flying ahead, dodging bomb sniffing dogs around here. 352 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 8: We even got helicopters, and we've got air support, ground support, 353 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 8: dog support to keep this area safe. But there will 354 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 8: be some protesters and I see them, but we'll see 355 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 8: if they just stay outside and they don't get inside 356 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 8: the convention center. 357 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: Here their First Amendment rights. It's a sad group. I've 358 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: seen them though, has cos good good. 359 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: It's quite sad, but hey, it's a first Amendment, a 360 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: free country. 361 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: Let us hear what you got to say. 362 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: MTG can give as good as she gets, so I 363 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 2: anticipate might be a little fireworks at the at the 364 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: at the town hall. 365 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: But she's brave enough. 366 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 2: That's what I think people love her because she's brave 367 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: enough to step. 368 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: Into the arena. Brian Glenn. 369 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 8: Yeah, she's not afraid to confront them, and if they 370 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 8: want to have a conversation at this town hall, she's 371 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 8: more than likely she wants to do that. But if 372 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 8: they show disrespect or they start to shout and screen 373 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 8: be disruptive, I can promise you they'll get a first 374 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 8: class escort outside this building and be sent right home. 375 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 8: But she does encourage feedback as she has taken questions 376 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 8: from the crowd. They've got a system to do that, 377 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 8: to make it orderly. You know, she's not afraid to 378 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 8: do that. But we've seen other Republicans get their town 379 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 8: halls basically shut down. And I really think Steve, because 380 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 8: a lot of these Republicans don't have the support in 381 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 8: their district so that when disruptors democrats go to these 382 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 8: town halls are able to take them over. I don't 383 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 8: think that's going to happen here tonight. We just the 384 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 8: door's opened a few minutes ago. 385 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, look some of these other the ones. 386 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: Emptg's in this fight, and she's been in this fight, 387 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: and she's a little bit of a street fighter, so 388 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: she's and she's quite savvy. This is not her first rodeo. 389 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 2: She's been in this, and she's been so she knows 390 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 2: when you have to plan these things you want to 391 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: hear from you considition when she's what I love about her. 392 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: She's not sharing away from a town hall. She's going 393 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: to do it an organized manner so she gets feedback, 394 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: not going to let it turn into a circus. That's 395 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: cause she's smart and she's tough. Brian will come back 396 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: to you maybe MTG hopefully before and if not, we'll 397 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: see you back here at six o'clock to. 398 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: Set the table for us. Yes, sir, we'll do. Thank you, 399 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: Brian Glenn. Brian Glenn normally draws White House duty. 400 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: He's at the town hall day, which I think will 401 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 2: be pretty electric. 402 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Let's go. We got a cold open for our next guest. 403 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and play it. 404 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 5: So he wants to send American citizens to foreign prison 405 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 5: where US legal protections don't apply at all, where people 406 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 5: can be held for the rest of their lives without 407 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 5: ever having a day in court or any sort of process, 408 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 5: he says. Attorney General Pam Bondi is quote studying the 409 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 5: laws right now to see if he really could do it, 410 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 5: because he'd loved to do it. It was only last 411 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 5: week on Thursday, when the Supreme Court ruled unanimously nine 412 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 5: to zero in favor of a man named Kilmar Abrego Garcia. 413 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 5: He's a legal resident, He's a Maryland father. The Trump 414 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,399 Speaker 5: administration admitst they sent him to that prision in El 415 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 5: Salvador by mistake. The Supreme Court effectively ordered the Trump 416 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 5: administration to facilitate this man's return to the US from 417 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 5: that El Salvador in prison, without explicitly defining what that 418 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 5: would look like. The Trump administration has insisted that they 419 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 5: can't return him, and they don't intend to. 420 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: They said that the man's. 421 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 5: Fate is up to the President of El Salvador. 422 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: For some reason. 423 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 5: Today in the Oval office, it was a reporter who 424 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 5: finally asked El Salvador's president if he would please return 425 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 5: this man to the United States. The El Salvador and 426 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 5: president called the question quote preposterous. 427 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: Of course he wouldn't. 428 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 5: So we have here a constitutional nightmare, a legal nightmare, 429 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 5: obviously a moral nightmare. Cheryl Eifel is the former president 430 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 5: of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. She has been sounding 431 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 5: the alarm about this. She has argued that Trump will 432 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 5: start testing constitutional limits by trying to deport US citizens 433 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 5: from American prisons to places like El Salvador, and then 434 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 5: Americans in order to stop that slippery slope where it is, 435 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 5: must take on the challenge of caring about and standing 436 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 5: up for US prisoners. 437 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: Quote. 438 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 5: Many of us have been working on how to legally 439 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 5: head off this nightmare, but public outcry and support will 440 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 5: be essential. Are you ready to march for the most 441 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 5: despised members of our society? Will you call your representatives 442 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 5: about those who are imprisoned? If you can't feel for 443 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 5: them or their families, Remember that this is just a 444 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 5: stage and a plan that will land. Ultimately at our 445 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 5: own doorsteps. Every one of us deemed inconvenient by this 446 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 5: administration will be under threat. And every time Trump is successful, 447 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 5: he grows more emboldened and more convinced that nothing can 448 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 5: stop him. 449 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 11: The notion that the Republican Party is going to say 450 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 11: a Supreme Court ruling, especially a unanimous one, is optional, 451 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 11: is both unsustainable and ludicrous on its face. 452 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 6: Even to the Trump voter. 453 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 12: I agree that I think that you are going to 454 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 12: see an increasing attack on the Supreme Court really those 455 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 12: of these rulings. 456 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 457 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 12: I mean, the issue is going to be sort of 458 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 12: the conversation between us, the sort of political reality of 459 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 12: whether it drives poll numbers down, and the populace says 460 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 12: that's absurd. But I think the Supreme Court is going 461 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 12: to be in for the same kind of attack that 462 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 12: we saw on the lower courts, that we see on 463 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 12: the media, we see on anyone who stands up to 464 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 12: Donald Trump. I mean, it's completely baseless, but you're going 465 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 12: to see sort of Donald Trump looking over to bb Netanyahu, 466 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 12: who has had his own attacks on the Supreme Court 467 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 12: in Israel, thinking oh, that's what we should do, we 468 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 12: should which we should narrow its jurisdiction. We should think 469 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 12: about packing the court, we should talk about impeaching judges, 470 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 12: which is that he's already talked about. I mean, that's 471 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 12: another way of undermining the rule of law. But one 472 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 12: of the ways is what we saw in the Oval 473 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 12: office was a I mean, let's just get real about 474 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 12: what happened. That is a thumbing of the news at 475 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 12: the Supreme Court ruling to say, you are ordered to 476 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 12: facilitate the return of somebody, and you know what was 477 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 12: not addressed at all in the Oval office and has 478 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 12: not been addressed in court in the district court. Has 479 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 12: the administration even asked the president of El Salvador, who 480 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,479 Speaker 12: is in the Oval office, to return him. The Al 481 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 12: Salvador president said, you know what, I can't do this unilaterally. 482 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 12: I can't smuggle him in. That is true. He's sitting 483 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 12: there saying I can't unilaterally do this. You do not 484 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 12: have this country even asking how is that in any 485 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 12: way complying with a Supreme Court decision that says you 486 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 12: have to facilitate his return. I mean, it's as simple 487 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 12: as that. That one question has not been asked. Thanks, Okay. 488 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 12: Margot Cleveland joins us from the federers. 489 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: You wrote an article that you said that the Supreme 490 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 2: Court's weak and timid decisions are driving us to a 491 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 2: constitutional crisis. 492 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: You saw it right there. 493 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 2: Weisman's essentially accusing not just the show but yourself of 494 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: being one of the some of the instigators in back 495 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: of President Trump. Your comments and observations, ma'am. 496 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 13: There were so many things in those clips that were 497 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 13: blatantly factually false. 498 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 6: That I can't remember them all. He wasn't Garcia was 499 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 6: not illegal resident. 500 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 13: The Supreme Court did not order him to be returned 501 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 13: to the United States, so they did not order him 502 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 13: to facilitate the return of Garcia. They ordered him the 503 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 13: excuse me. They also did not rule against Trump. They 504 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 13: actually ruled for Trump by saying, look, that order that 505 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 13: said you had to facilitate and basically obtain his return 506 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 13: or his was beyond the authority, and we are going 507 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 13: to cut out that timeframe and we're going to send 508 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 13: it back for clarity. The only thing the court did 509 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 13: is it said we want you, judge to clarify your directive, 510 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 13: and the judge hasn't clarified her directive. The court also 511 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 13: did not say you have to facilitate the return the 512 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 13: Court said it was appropriate to order Trump to facilitate 513 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 13: the release from prison. The entire order of the Supreme 514 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 13: Court was cagy. 515 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 6: It was giving. 516 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 13: Half directives, half recommendations, so much so that you have 517 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 13: all of those people on the left going on air 518 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 13: saying blatantly false things about what the court ordered. 519 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,479 Speaker 2: Margo, hangover for one second. Hangover, one second's perfect. We're 520 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 2: going to take a short commercial break. Margo Cleveland from 521 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 2: the Federalists lays it out so shocking that the left. 522 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 1: Wing media would actually lie about facts. 523 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: However, her point and her deeper point, is that the 524 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 2: decisions and opinions of the Supreme Court are leading us 525 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 2: to a constitutional crisis. 526 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,680 Speaker 1: We're going to take a short commercial break to feed 527 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: back in. 528 00:26:52,920 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 14: The months of President Bukayley and I look forward to 529 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 14: meeting with him. I've requested to meet with him. I 530 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 14: reached out to the ambassador here to ask to meet 531 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 14: while he's here, but I've also made clear if we 532 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 14: can't meet here, I do intend to go to El 533 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 14: Salvador to discuss the release of this individual who is 534 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 14: illegally detained, a Maryland man who's the father of three 535 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 14: in a notorious prison in El Salvador, and I believe 536 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 14: the President of Al Salvador will recognize why it's important 537 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 14: to allow him to return to the United States of America, 538 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 14: because it is absolutely unjust and illegal to have this 539 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 14: marylander detained one more day in a notorious prison in 540 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 14: Al Salvador. Of course President Trump could have just said, 541 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 14: you know, bring him home. Of course he could have 542 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 14: done that, But this is an administration that has lied 543 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 14: about mister Brago Garcia, right, the Vice President I States 544 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 14: tweeted out that he had a criminal record. 545 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: That was a lie. 546 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 4: They're just lying. 547 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 14: They've gotten caughtline, they don't want to admit it, and 548 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 14: they have an obligation to bring him home. But I 549 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 14: will say the President of Al Salvador should not now 550 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 14: take it upon himself to say that he is detaining 551 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 14: him for one more day, because that is kidnapping. I 552 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 14: understand that the Attorney General said that we would provide 553 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 14: a plane to bring him home. So all the President 554 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 14: of Al Salvador has to do now is hand over 555 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 14: and release an innocent man and let him come home 556 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 14: to his family. 557 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: Okay. 558 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 2: Margot Cleveland joins us hero with this amazing piece at 559 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 2: the Federals how we're hurtling towards a constitutional crisis. But 560 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: it's because, let's be blunt, the whimpy nature of the 561 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: opinions of the Supreme Court in their action. So, Margo, there, 562 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: it's not a member of the media, it's not Weisman 563 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 2: or Rachel Maddow. That's a United States Senator from the 564 00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: state of Maryland. 565 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: What do you have to say to him? 566 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 13: Man, So, what he's actually talking about is something he 567 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 13: could do that Trump could do. But the difference is 568 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 13: we have a judge, a district judge, saying you must 569 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 13: do this, and that's where the constitutional crisis is. Yeah, 570 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 13: Trump very well could say to the president of our 571 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 13: salvat or look, let him, you know, release him. We'll 572 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 13: bring him back, and we will then deport him to 573 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 13: a third country, which is exactly what should happen from 574 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 13: a political a practical standpoint. But once a federal judge 575 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 13: got involved and ordered Trump to facilitate the release from prison, 576 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 13: which involves ordering the president to engage in that conversation 577 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 13: with a foreign official, that's where Trump had to put 578 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 13: his foot down. So I actually don't disagree with everything 579 00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 13: that that politician said. I agree that the resident of 580 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 13: El Salvador could do that that we would fly him back. 581 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 6: But he was not. 582 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 13: An innocent individual. He did commit a crime illegally entering 583 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 13: the United States. He maybe wasn't convict of it of it, 584 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 13: but he was not a legal resident, and he will 585 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 13: be removed once that happens. But the constitutional crisis is 586 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 13: again the Court's telling the President of the United States, 587 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 13: you have to ask, maybe you have to ask pretty please, 588 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 13: sugar on top, maybe just do this for me. That 589 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 13: is none of the Court's business and Trump should be 590 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 13: putting his foot down on this, So talk. 591 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: To me about this. You make an argument in this 592 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: article on Grayson Moe. Let's make sure we get it 593 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 2: up into the chat rooms. If Carly Bonnet would also 594 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 2: put it out, we'd appreciate that. In Elizabeth, I want 595 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: as many people to read this as possible. It comes 596 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 2: strongly recommended by Mike Davis, the Viceroy. 597 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: Margot, you make a deeper case here. You're saying we 598 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: actually are hurtling to. 599 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 2: A constitutional crisis because the court is what They're not 600 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: making strong opinions, they're making the wrong opinions. 601 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: They're being too wimpy. I mean, what are you recommending 602 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: they do that. 603 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 13: They say what the Constitution says, which is Article two 604 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 13: is within president's trump authority. Instead of sending this case 605 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 13: back and telling the judge, you need to clarify your 606 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 13: directive giving due respect to the president and his foreign affairs, 607 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 13: they should have sent it back and said, no, you 608 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 13: cannot order the president to engage in any type of diplomatic. 609 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 6: Relations with El Salvador period. 610 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 13: Instead, the way they sent it back, I think I 611 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 13: read it ten times and it took me ten times 612 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 13: to figure out what they actually said and didn't say. 613 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 6: But you know what the district judge said. 614 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 13: The district judge said, the Supreme Court of affirmed my decision. 615 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 13: It did not affirm her decision. They are being mealy mouthed. 616 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 13: They are not saying what the Constitution says. They're saying, 617 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 13: clarify what you mean. The Supreme Court is acting like 618 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 13: Article two and Article three respect each other. 619 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 6: And they don't. 620 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 13: And they don't because Article two the president has been 621 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 13: making presidential decisions within his authority, and you have judges 622 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 13: who have been appointed by Obama and Biden who are 623 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 13: going way beyond their authority, and every single case that 624 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 13: has made it to the Supreme Court. 625 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 6: In two and a half months. 626 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 13: The Supreme Court has put the brakes on the lower court. 627 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 13: They haven't al rightly said we're reversing, but they have 628 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 13: done something that gave Trump a win. And the problem 629 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 13: is that is only allowing these lower courts to think 630 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 13: they can still continue them and get away with this. 631 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 13: And we're going to see that in this case, the 632 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 13: judge is going to order the Trump administration. 633 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 6: To do certain things and to disclose certain information. 634 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 13: She had a hearing today and from people who are there, 635 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 13: the conversation was, we're going to depose you and we're 636 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 13: going to find out what you asked the El Salvador 637 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 13: and President. That's none of her business. That is not 638 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 13: the course business. It's not Article three's business. Trump is 639 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,239 Speaker 13: going to have to refuse to answer that and go 640 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 13: through the appellate process. She's on the cusp of ordering 641 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 13: him to show cause why he should not be in contempt. 642 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 13: Why because the Supreme Court of the United States refused 643 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 13: to say, no, you can't do this. Instead they said, WHOA, 644 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 13: it was a little bit unclear, and you really should 645 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 13: be cautious. 646 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 6: That doesn't work anymore. 647 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 13: These judges are activist judges, and they are going to 648 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 13: go way beyond their authority, and they're going to push 649 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 13: us to the part where you have Article two having 650 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 13: to say no, I am not going to ask them 651 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 13: to release this prisoner period. You can't tell me to, 652 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 13: and I'm not going to. And that is going to 653 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 13: have to get up to the Supreme Court. And if 654 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 13: they don't calm down and say point blank, you can't 655 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 13: do that, that's going to be our constitutional crisis. Because 656 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 13: they think it's prudent to let it play out. It isn't. 657 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 6: It is not prudent. 658 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 13: It is making half of America disrespect the court and 659 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 13: the other half disrespect the president because they don't understand 660 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 13: the separations of power. 661 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 2: Well, maybe they do understand. I mean the left is 662 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 2: cheering this on. Would I be out of line? And 663 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: saying could you see it? 664 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: Every night? 665 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: I mean, MSNBC spends at least fifty percent of their 666 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: primetime hours on lawsuits, you know, in front of federal 667 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,959 Speaker 2: judges who are giving tros or injunctions for the whole 668 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 2: nation and the rest about these issues that are going 669 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: to the Supreme Court. I mean, they're egging this on, 670 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: Like you said, the beginning of your segment. All the 671 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 2: facts that they repeat like a mantra over and over 672 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 2: and over again about this case absolutely happen to be 673 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: dead wrong. 674 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 1: They know what they're doing. This is information warfare. 675 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 2: Do you think conservative media is doing a good warroom included, 676 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 2: is doing a good enough job of covering these. 677 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 13: Well, you know, frankly, it's hard because there are so 678 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 13: many of these cases. There's over one hundred cases, and 679 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 13: on my Twitter account, I try to keep a constant 680 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 13: update of what the cases are and what's happening in them. 681 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 13: But it is impossible to track that many cases. And 682 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 13: it's legal, it's legal stuff, and because I am a lawyer, 683 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 13: I am able to quickly read and process them and 684 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 13: catch kind of these key distinctions in the cases. So, 685 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 13: like I said, all of those Supreme Court cases, they 686 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 13: actually were ruling for Trump, they were just doing it 687 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 13: in kind of backhanded, tricky ways so that they didn't 688 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 13: have to say Trump went and you guys are doing. 689 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 6: It the wrong way. 690 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 13: So I don't know that there's a possibility of even 691 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 13: doing it right because there's too much, it's too detailed, 692 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 13: it's too complex, and the best we can do is 693 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 13: when there's a clear case like this is to push 694 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 13: back and say, no, you're lying about what's going on 695 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 13: in Garcia. If you just pull up the Supreme Court order, 696 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 13: what Andrew Weissman said was that they ordered him to 697 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 13: be facilitated to return to the US. 698 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 6: It's not in there. It's nowhere in there. 699 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 13: The only thing that says is the order was right 700 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 13: about facilitating his release from prison. But even that was 701 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 13: based on the presumption that Garcia is being held because 702 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 13: we're paying for it and we asked them to hold them, 703 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 13: And I think that's absolutely wrong. Garcia is El Salvadoran. 704 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 13: Why would we pay for L Salvador to hold their 705 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 13: own prisoners. The reason we were paying El Salvador was 706 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 13: because of all of the Venezuelan gang members that we 707 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 13: couldn't shift back to Venezuela. 708 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 6: So I think even the Supreme Court. 709 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 13: Was based on the record that made it look like 710 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 13: we had something to do with him being in that prison, 711 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 13: and I don't think that's the case. So I guess 712 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 13: that was a long way to get to It's too 713 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 13: complex for everyone to push back on. We've got to 714 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 13: find the cases where it's clear that we can point 715 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 13: out that this is blatantly false. 716 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 6: And that we can show it in black and white 717 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 6: so they. 718 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 13: Actually listen as opposed to this is a conspiracy theory, 719 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 13: this is a mega person. 720 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 6: We'll just ignore it. 721 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 2: Margot, you talk about it's the whimpy or timid. I 722 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 2: think you call it response to the Supreme Court. Do 723 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 2: you anticipate Roberts, the Roberts Court, particularly how Roberts, as 724 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 2: we're on this thing and now he's got acb as 725 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: a wingman, do you anticipate that's going to get any 726 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 2: less timid. 727 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 13: I keep thinking it's going to I thought it was 728 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 13: going to after they did the first punt, which was involving. 729 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 6: A gentleman named Dellinger. 730 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 13: But then they did the same thing the second time 731 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 13: and the third time. 732 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 6: I don't think so. 733 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 13: I don't think you're going to change Roberts and bear 734 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 13: it from being the prudential hands off justices, which frankly 735 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 13: I think is a good approach in most cases, but 736 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 13: in this case it's not, because it is giving the 737 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 13: lower court judges carte blanche to do anything. So I 738 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,879 Speaker 13: don't think you're going to find them moving away from 739 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 13: their timidity. But when forced, I do think that they're 740 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 13: going to order and rule the right way, which we 741 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 13: did see in every single case that has come up 742 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 13: there that they actually stopped what the lower. 743 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 6: Court was doing that was beyond its authority. 744 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 13: So I wish I could be more hopeful, but the 745 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 13: best I can say is they're going to rule in 746 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 13: the right way when they finally have no option. 747 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: Margot, how can people get onto your Twitter feed and 748 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 2: follow you throughout the day, because what we need is 749 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: a constant news service to update on all these myriad 750 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 2: of cases, because all of these are important in their 751 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: own way. 752 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: Where do people go man for your social media and 753 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 1: your writings. 754 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 13: Yes, so I am writing at the Federalist and on 755 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 13: social media, I am on x at Prof. 756 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: MJ. 757 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 13: Cleveland, and at the very top. I have pinned all 758 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 13: of the Supreme Court dockets, and I usually throughout the 759 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 13: day if anything substantial breaks, I constantly am getting updates 760 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,960 Speaker 13: from the different cases. I probably have twenty of them 761 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 13: in my email just while I've been chatting with you, 762 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 13: and I post not just my thoughts on it, but 763 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 13: the original documents so that you can see that I 764 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,840 Speaker 13: am telling you. 765 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: It the way it is, Margot. 766 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 2: Fantastic and great service to the country really appreciate you 767 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: and look forward to having. 768 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,959 Speaker 1: Your back man. 769 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 6: Thanks so much for your time. 770 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 2: Margot Cleveland over the Federalist this. As we told you, 771 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: the courts are the tip of the spear. 772 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 8: You know. 773 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: Natalie's done a great job of how they're trying to 774 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 2: do the Color Revolution and how they're blaying up, playing 775 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 2: up every protester. 776 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 1: About to see one when. 777 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 2: MTG goes to do her town hall, they're going to 778 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 2: have protesters outside. They had protesters outside last night in Greenville. 779 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 2: It was kind of sad, right, but they still had them. 780 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 2: We're going to take a short commercial break. Natalie is 781 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: still with us. The great Brian Glenn is around. 782 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: We're going to go live. 783 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 2: To mgg's MTG's town hall in Georgia. Also, hopefully we've 784 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 2: got plenty of time to do this. We're going to 785 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 2: talk to some truckers about certain issues. 786 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 4: Next, you use your host Stephen k. 787 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: Okay. 788 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 2: So much activity in capital markets, and as we get down, 789 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 2: we're gonna get into big time on the big beautiful 790 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 2: bill cuts. We had Russ Voto on today. I want 791 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 2: to thank Ross. He's getting ready to do a recision. 792 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 2: It's under ten billion dollars it looks like, but it's 793 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 2: got PBS, NPR, some of the USA d so. 794 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: It's not as big as we hope, but it's a start. 795 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 2: Capital marks aren't to bounce around one of the big 796 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 2: weapons of the Chinese Commis Party and big breaking news. 797 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 2: As we came on the air right here is guess 798 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: what Navidia was just announced that Navidia cannot sell. 799 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: I got this right in the video. Is not able 800 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: to sell breaking news. 801 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 2: Navidia says the US government has banned them from selling 802 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 2: the H twenty chips to China for the indefinite future. 803 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,880 Speaker 1: Stock is down over five percent of the news. 804 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is the equivalent of cutting the 805 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 2: Japanese off from oil in July and August in nineteen 806 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 2: forty one, but. 807 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: Let's say it's directionally the same. This is hardball. We 808 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: told you we've been arguing for smash mouth. I think 809 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: we just got some from the US government. 810 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: Natalie Winners, I want to talk to you about what 811 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 2: Margot Cleveland said and also even finding these engs why 812 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 2: we're now in the attack. But first, since you've done 813 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: such great work on the Chinese Communist Party, this is 814 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: the Trump administration thrown a punch, is it not, ma'am? 815 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 9: Absolutely, Like I always say, the only president who, at 816 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,240 Speaker 9: least in my lifetime, has actually taken on the Chinese 817 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 9: Communist Party with I think a level of clinical detail 818 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 9: that the media always misses, either intentionally or because it 819 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 9: goes over their head. President Trump understands the United Front 820 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 9: Works Department, the political warfare, what really undergirds would they 821 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 9: have done to this country, which is the maxim of 822 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 9: infiltration as opposed to invasion. 823 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 6: The idea that you see. 824 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 9: Codified all over People's liberation army texts being that the 825 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 9: supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. 826 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 9: And I think what we've learned from these tariffs, from 827 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 9: even moves like this coming against Nvidia, is that we 828 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 9: were sort of living on borrowed time. 829 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,359 Speaker 6: We were living in this suspended. 830 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 9: Reality whereby we thought we were okay, we were sufficient 831 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 9: from the Chinese Communist Party. 832 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 6: Meanwhile, they were waging economic. 833 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,359 Speaker 9: Warfare, information warfare, lawfare, and in some cases I think 834 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 9: the spy balloon is kinetic warfare, and I think what 835 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 9: was going on at the southern border. 836 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 10: Was kinetic warfare too. 837 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 9: But what we have as a president who actually understands 838 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 9: the gravity and the sort of fifth dimension warfare tactics 839 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 9: that the Chinese Communist Party is using against us, and 840 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 9: that this happy talk of oh, well what would war 841 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 9: with China look like? And oh the Thucindy's trap and 842 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 9: oh Trump's trade war, that ship sailed. We are at 843 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 9: war with China, and it's nice to have a president 844 00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 9: who finally understands that. 845 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,960 Speaker 2: You then agree with the thesis the unrestricted warfare that 846 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 2: they've been under attacking us for decades and now the 847 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 2: People's Ward that they called twenty nineteen. In your observations 848 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 2: and analysis, there's no doubt we're engaged in something far 849 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 2: deeper than just tariff and trade. 850 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 10: Ma'am, oh, absolutely not. 851 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 9: I mean, I think their goal is not necessarily to 852 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 9: have the White House, you know, fly the Chinese flag. 853 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 9: They just want everyone who works in there to have 854 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 9: graduated from a higher education institution that's bankrolled by the 855 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,640 Speaker 9: Chinese Communist Party. 856 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 6: Have worked for political candidates who. 857 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 9: Were working with fundraisers tied to the Chinese Communist Party, 858 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 9: like we just found out today and Boston have people 859 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 9: and their families relying on pharmaceutical drugs that are manufactured 860 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 9: in China, have distorted propaganda news outlets that are essentially 861 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,320 Speaker 9: carrying water, if not in some cases just directly running 862 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,439 Speaker 9: ads for the Chinese Communist Party. And what I think 863 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 9: really is the core of it, this idea that you know, 864 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 9: China as an economic miracle. That was sort of the 865 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,799 Speaker 9: first I think from two thousand to like twenty ten, 866 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 9: twenty fifteen, before Trump entered the stage, they were very 867 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 9: content with just reframing the narrative about China's so called 868 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 9: rise and that it was beneficial a boon to the 869 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 9: United States of America. But you know, I think in 870 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 9: recent years you've seen them sort of weaponize and escalate 871 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:25,240 Speaker 9: their propaganda efforts here in the United States to blow 872 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 9: past just how the United States and Americans conceive of China. 873 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 9: But more importantly, they want to really shape and I 874 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,279 Speaker 9: think almost pervert the way that the United States that 875 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 9: are citizens are fellow citizens look at this country. 876 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 10: And I think that's why you see them kind of 877 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 10: pop up. 878 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 9: Whether it's funding like we were talking about earlier, a 879 00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 9: lot of these BLM movements, these far left progressive movements, they. 880 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,439 Speaker 6: Always have a hand in these culturally. 881 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:55,359 Speaker 9: Destructive and subversive forces because they're playing to win, they're 882 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 9: playing for keeps. They don't like the idea of a 883 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 9: bipolar world order. They are keen on a unipolar world order, 884 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 9: a unipolar world order whereby. 885 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 6: The United States is not on top. And you see it. 886 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 9: I didn't see any media outlets melting down about what 887 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 9: they were doing with the Belton Road initiative, but all 888 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:12,640 Speaker 9: of a sudden, you. 889 00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 10: Know, President Trump says, oh, well, maybe. 890 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 9: We're going to take the Panama Canal, and they're apoplectic 891 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 9: and they're melting down. And by the way, for all 892 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 9: these people who are melting down over what's going on 893 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 9: in the Ol Salvadoran prison, I suggest you take a 894 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 9: trip to Shinjong and see what China's done with the leaguers. 895 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 10: You probably won't be too happy. 896 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 9: And just one point on that, Steve too after Margo's interview, 897 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,319 Speaker 9: I think it's important to underscore the reason why we 898 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 9: have to ship these people overseas is because the Biden 899 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:46,320 Speaker 9: regime systematically underdeveloped and in some cases shut down domestic 900 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 9: detention center facilities and for four years, but especially after 901 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 9: President Trump won, these left wing lobbying groups and activists 902 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 9: who are funded probably by the Chinese Communist part of 903 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 9: a certainly open society. 904 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 6: Foundations a sort of left wing apparatus. 905 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 9: They were lobbying to trump proof this country the mass 906 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 9: deportation agenda. 907 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 6: Remember how many shows did we do on that. 908 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 9: That was the railhead of their ability to trump proof 909 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 9: the government. They wanted to nullify and neoter his mass 910 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 9: deportation agenda. So they essentially set this trap right, the 911 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,200 Speaker 9: constitutionality of the foreign deportations. And I think my message 912 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 9: would just be very clear, if they don't get the 913 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,400 Speaker 9: deportations right, you turn this country into El Salvador. And 914 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 9: if you don't get the law fair counter programming correct, 915 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,839 Speaker 9: going after these law firms, going after the deep state. 916 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 10: Need you and a. 917 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 9: Lot of people who watch this show, and a lot 918 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 9: of administration officials and probably President Trump are. 919 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,760 Speaker 6: Going to end up in an l Salvadoran prison. 920 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: Amen, I tell you what We're going to hold Michae 921 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: Lindell through the break. We're going take a show commercial breaker' 922 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: and leave you with the. 923 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 2: Right stuff of A classic book of new journalism was 924 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:02,839 Speaker 2: not a novel. New Journalism by Tom Wolfe a magnificent 925 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 2: masterpiece on the film by Philip Cofflin of course, Academy 926 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 2: Award winning music by Golconti, Michael Lindell. 927 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: Natalie Winner is going to stick around. 928 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 2: We're going to go hopefully to a town hall MTG 929 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 2: throwing down a bunch of protesters her constituents. 930 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: It should be a wild one. 931 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 2: Also, I think we're going to have time and let 932 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 2: me do shoes some truckers short break back in the month,