1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if he likes me or if he 2 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: doesn't like me, but he is one hell of a competitor. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: He is a tough, smart and and he has got 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: an amazing future. He's got an amazing future. So I 5 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 1: want to congratulate Ron Anian. It seems that some of 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: these cars just want to be discussed. I think the 7 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: cars are as as as big as him as I am. 8 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes the Car Doctor, a sixteen year old car still 9 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: needed to have a software update. That's how important software 10 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: and flash files are and will be going forward. 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That's probably a live 55 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: of now to so you can podcast us that way. 56 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about and we've had 57 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: this conversation, you and I about a house with an 58 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: asphalt roof, you know, regular shingles and a copper roof. 59 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: And if you recall this conversation, it's all about the 60 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: degree of difficulty to repair. And the analogy was always 61 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: drawn to when you buy a card. Is it's something 62 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: you buy. Do you buy a simple car, which is 63 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 1: kind of hard to do today, or do you buy 64 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: something even more complicated than the typical complicated car. I 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: want to tell you the story about the shingle roof 66 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: and the copper roof in regards to this two thousand 67 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: and eight Nissan Ultima Hybrid. Nissan Ultimate Hybrid is it's 68 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: kind of a neat vehicle. It's it's it's interesting. It's 69 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: actually a first generation Toyota Prius and Nissan clothing in 70 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: a lot of aspects, and a lot of the components 71 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 1: carry over and there a swap and there they are. 72 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: They are pretty much the same. Had the occasion this 73 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: week to fall into a repair where the anti lock 74 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: break controller assembly was bad on this two thousand eight 75 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: Ultimate Hybrid, and it's it's really kind of a I 76 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: don't know either way to say it, but a scary situation. 77 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: Here's an O eight Nissan that you look at hunter 78 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: eight hundred and eighty thousand miles. I don't want to 79 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: gloss over that too quick. And the electronic anti lock 80 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: break controller was bad. Now understand, this car has three 81 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: basic breaking systems. It has the anti lock break controller. 82 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: It has a master cylinder that operates the rear breaks 83 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: by means of you know, it's it's a manual master cylinder, 84 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: not power, but it's a master cylinder. That is the safety, 85 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 1: that is the fail safe if the electronic anti lock 86 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: break controller fails, and then it has T S M 87 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: T SM is trees, shrubs, and mailboxes, because when the 88 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: master fails after the antilock break controller stops working, you're 89 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: gonna have to hit one of the three in order 90 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: to get the car to slow down. This particular Ultima, 91 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: this copper roofed vehicle, needed a controller. The controller was 92 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: sev D dollars close to eighteen And it's not a 93 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: simple bolton. It's not something that you know in twenty 94 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: minutes you're done, and the bleed procedure takes upwards of 95 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 1: two hours. There are some very specific things that have 96 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: to be done. The total cost for the repair on 97 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: this something thousand mile vehicle was encroaching three grand by 98 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: the time you put sales tax in it. And you 99 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: look at that and you say, why is it really necessary? 100 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: I always think about that that expression. Is this trip 101 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: really necessary? Is this repair really necessary? Is this car 102 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: really necessary? What were the engineers thinking? And the answer is, 103 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Because as much as everyone is a 104 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: fan of hybrids and they're all thrilled, who I'm driving 105 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: a hybrid, I'm saving the planet? Are you? And I 106 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: keep coming back to those reports to talk about the 107 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: cost to manufacturer, produce, and maintain a hybrid are nearer 108 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: equal to that of the gas engines, and in some 109 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: cases that's true, in some cases it's not. But a 110 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: comparable repair on a non hybrid ultima is half that 111 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: three thousand dollars, and a lot of it has to 112 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: do because of the electronics that are on board for 113 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 1: the hybrid to operate. So at what cost do we 114 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: make that hybrid work? Listen to the description. Here's the 115 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: description for how the brakes work on this OH eight 116 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: Ultimate hybrid. The system detects the degree of brake pedal 117 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: operation with a brake stroke sensor and to master cylinder 118 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: pressure sensors and then calculates the optimum hydraulic brakeforce. So, 119 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: in other words, centers and a computer determined how hard 120 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: to put the brake on. The hydraulic pressure source, which 121 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: is the tell like brake controller is adjusted based on this, 122 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: so that optimum hydraulic control is independently performed on all 123 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: four wheels. Meanwhile, the electronic control brake system also performs 124 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: control of the normal breaks a BS traction control in 125 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: accordance with the operations of the driver, so there is 126 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: some driver input. Here's the best part. There's a hydraulic 127 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: backup mechanism. It's a fancy way of saying, just a 128 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: manual master cylinder that applies master cylinder pressure generated by 129 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: human power. So somewhere along the way they acknowledge human 130 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: beings are involved in this to the wheel cylinders, which 131 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: are the rear brakes when the brake control stopped. So, 132 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: in other words, when you're thirty pound missile has a 133 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: brake failure at sixty miles out on the highway, the 134 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: only thing that you're stopping on is rear brakes. But 135 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: of the manual nature, not power. And I had a 136 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: laugh when I read when I read this, you know, 137 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: I wonder how many of you could make that adjustment, 138 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: how quick in your mind? Because you're you're used to 139 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're used to a power break. 140 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: You're you're gently stepping on the brake pedal, and at 141 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: the moment of a brake failure, dashlights come on. The 142 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: first thing you're gonna do is hit the brakes. Are 143 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: you gonna hit them hard enough? Is your mind going 144 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: to be in a panic situation where you're capable of 145 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: stepping on the brake hard enough? And the answer is, 146 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. But the backup mechanism applies master cylinder 147 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: pressure generated by human power of the wheel cylinder when 148 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: the break control stops. In addition as a failsafe mechanism, 149 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: when the brake control malfunctions, the system excludes the malfunctioning 150 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: sections and continues to perform brak control in the nermal parts. 151 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: A power break backup unit is also used to ensure 152 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: a stable supply of power to the system. And then, 153 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,319 Speaker 1: like I said, the third method of stopping the cars 154 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: ts cemetary shrubs and mailboxes, and you've really got to 155 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: look at this and say, what are we creating. There 156 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: was a lot of oh, I don't know, hubbub uproar 157 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: in the news a couple of years back over the 158 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: Toyota unintended acceleration issue, and my answer to it was, 159 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 1: I've been in cars where the gas pedal is stuck, 160 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: where the floor mats gotten jammed up under the pedal. 161 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: And I'm not here to criticize Toyota. That's not what 162 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: this is about. But this is about the point that 163 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: if you're in a vehicle doing sixty and the accelerator sticks, 164 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: the majority of you and probably yours truly included, don't 165 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: have the wherewithal to turn the car off, which to 166 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 1: me was the simple solution. Just turned the car off 167 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: when it's unintended acceleration and you know, wait for it 168 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: to stop. But it really comes down to how safe 169 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: are some of these cars? How safe is that copper 170 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: roofed house when you go from driving something that's normal 171 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: and reliable and you know what to a expect, and 172 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: then again, do you know what to expect any of 173 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: you ever put your vehicle in an emergency situation because 174 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: the bottom line becomes that going forward with technology, you've 175 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: got to be ready for that problem to expect the unexpected, 176 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: because if one thing technology has shown us, it's brought 177 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 1: forward change and the unexpected. So think about that the 178 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: next time you're buying a car. Do you want a 179 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: car with simple, easy to do breaks, simple easy to 180 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: do repairs or is that expensive highline vehicle with that 181 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: fancy propulsion system really something that you want to do 182 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: and deal with on a regular basis. By the way, 183 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: the part was on back order for this oh Ad Ultima. 184 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: The vehicle owner how to wait six days in order 185 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: to get them. And here's a car that's just barely 186 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,599 Speaker 1: eight years old. So can you imagine another couple of 187 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: years with this technological pile of chips is going to 188 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: become in terms of trying to repair it and getting parts. 189 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: Eight five zero nine zero zero. I'm Rond in the 190 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: car dockor here to take your calls. We'll be back 191 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: right after this. I ain't every being with the woman 192 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: mountain constraint. Hey, welcome backing the car doctor rolling along 193 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: at eight five five zero nine zero zero. This just 194 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: inn I sort of feel like Walter Cronkite with it 195 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: all D D D D D D D D ron 196 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,839 Speaker 1: help help. That's why I mean. It's sort of like 197 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: a Walter Cronkite moment. I'm the TV guy that used 198 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: to have the old nineteen seventy seven Chevy Wagon, but 199 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: for the past two years I have a nine seven 200 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: Lexus E S three fifty. I need your help desperately 201 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: in my left front caliper's piston. Isn't it funny? I 202 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: opened the show talking about problems with brakes, and we're 203 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna go a completely degrees different and talk about brake 204 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: calipers and master cylinders on older Alexis is my left 205 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: front caliper piston went bad, leaking and the brake fluid 206 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: had leaked out of the Master. I changed the caliper, 207 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: but I am having a difficult time and bleeding the system. 208 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: According to Alexis manual, they say, if the master cylinder 209 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: becomes empty, which it did, the master cylinder has to 210 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: be bled first before the wheels. They say to loosen 211 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: the brake lines at the Master, slowly depressed the pedal 212 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: and hold it blocked the ports on the Master with 213 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: your finger. Then release the brake pedal. They say to 214 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: do this three or four times. Well, yeah, Greg, I 215 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: mean that's true. The problem is you need an assistant 216 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: to do it that way, and it's also quite messy. 217 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: So what we typically do is we would stuff some 218 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: rags under the area of the Master. If we're gonna 219 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: bleed the Master on the vehicle, have someone stroke the 220 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: pedal down with the bleat with the lines open, close 221 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: the line, and repeat that process a couple of times 222 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: until we see no more air coming out. Now, just 223 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: for conversation's sake, and this isn't your problem, but I 224 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: just want to point this out. If you were changing 225 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: this master, I bleed my masters on the bench, and 226 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: you know the age old fingers over the ports and 227 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: I wear my rubber gloves fingers over the ports and 228 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: stroke the piston one at a time, and I not 229 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: necessarily try to get full stroke on the master's piston, 230 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: but just enough until the bubbles kind of burp up 231 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: out of the transfer ports at the top. So you 232 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: can watch them on a lot of these Masters, because 233 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: it's clear plastic, it's open areas, and when all those 234 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: bubbles come out, that's that much less bleeding that you 235 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: will have to do in the vehicle when the Master 236 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: cylinders back on the vehicle. Now, in your case, you 237 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: can do it by taking the lines completely, often blocking 238 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: the ports with your fingers, or you can crack the 239 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: lines loose, you know, open on down stroke, clothes on upstroke. 240 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: The way I install a Master is and if you 241 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: do this right, you'll never even have to bleed the system. 242 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 1: You bench bleed the master, put it on the vehicle, 243 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: change it over, and if you catch it right, you 244 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: will bleed it just like that on the vehicle. And 245 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: what happens is when you go on the upstroke, you're 246 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: pulling the air. Ever a little bit of air went 247 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: into the lines, back into the master area, and eventually 248 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: it burps out up through the top. You do that 249 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: a couple of times, you'll ever have to bleed the system. 250 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: Just a tip, just the thought of being careful and 251 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: um surgical with your brake fluid, if you want to 252 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: think of it like that, so you don't have fluid 253 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: all over the place. I don't like making a mess. 254 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: Making a mess means I've got to clean it up. 255 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: Putting down any kind of speedy dry or any kind 256 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: of rags means I've got to clean those up means 257 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: I've got to use up resources. Never a good thing. 258 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: You continue in your email, Greg, this is impossible since 259 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: when you're losing Ruth loosen the brake lines, the fluid 260 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: runs out right. We established that before you can even 261 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: get your finger on the ports. Also, it's a very 262 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: tight space. The flared brake line on the side by 263 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: the fender is very solid. It doesn't pull out easily. 264 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: Is there a better and easier way or method to 265 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: bleed the system on that car in order to get 266 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: a pedal. I'm by myself with no assistant. I tried 267 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: to bleed the system at the rear wheels first, using 268 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: your method with the snapple bottle and hose. No luck. 269 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: Before I even touched the master. When I opened the 270 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: bleeder at the far right rear wheel, very little fluid 271 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: came out, and I have no pedal. First thing I 272 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: would do, and you continue, but before we go along 273 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: those lines, the first thing I would do is I'd 274 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: be bleeding the left front simply because it's the closest 275 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: to the master, and if I'm looking to push air 276 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: out of the system, i want to just get air out. 277 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm not worried about a good pedal at this point. 278 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get air out of the master 279 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: if you really have no helper. You know the idea 280 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: of the snapple bottle, And for those that may not 281 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: be familiar, we've done it this way for a long time, 282 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: and I'm sure I didn't invent this, but we use 283 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: big plastic cups, the big gulp cup, the b your 284 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: king cup, whatever it is from the fast food place, 285 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: and I will take a binder clip, use the binder 286 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: clip to hold the hose to the cup, and put 287 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: a long coil of rubber hose down into the brake 288 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: fluid and fill it up until it's just soo maybe 289 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: a quarter of an inch three it's of an inch 290 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: over the top of the over the top of the 291 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: end of the hose, and then with the bleeder open, 292 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: I will slowly stroke down and lift up, and stroke 293 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: down and lift up. The nice thing about this is, 294 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: if you do this correctly and you've got a good 295 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: tight fit on the bleeder and the bleeder threads to 296 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: the brake caliper are a good fit. And if they're not, 297 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: what you can do is take the bleeder screw out 298 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: all the way, put a dab of yellow grease or 299 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: wheelbearing grease on the threads and they will help seal 300 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: the thread so that they do not leak or seep. 301 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: And doing it this way will allow a good, sharp, 302 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: positive feel. The problem you've got yourself and Greg is 303 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: doing the caliper without having an assistant available to you 304 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: kind of puts you in a predicament. So I'm not gonna, 305 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: you know, say hey, listen next time. I think by 306 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: now you know better about you. Don't put yourself in 307 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: a box. One of the things I always teach everybody 308 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: whenever we're doing an oil change. The first thing I 309 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: teach somebody on an oil change not to loosen the 310 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: drain plug, not to take the filter down, not to 311 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: put the car up in the air. The first thing, 312 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: make sure the hood opens, because if it's a car 313 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: you don't know, or maybe it's a car you know, 314 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: and the last thing in the world you want is 315 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: you go to change the oil and the hood release 316 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: doesn't work. And yeah, it's happened, and we've caught it 317 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: early where we're not stuck in a jam and we're 318 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: in the box. What I think you need to do 319 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: is consider doing the bleeder bottle the way I've described it, 320 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: maybe picking up a brake syringe if you google break syringe. 321 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: We found them now. We were talking about this a 322 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: couple of months back. They are out on the web now, 323 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: cheaper than I originally thought and easier to get. A 324 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: matter of fact, they're on the car doctor Facebook page. 325 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: I think we had this conversation and if you scroll 326 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: down a couple of pages back, it's up there. Um, 327 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: I think it was available on Amazon pretty cheap. Break 328 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: break bleeder syringes will help you immensely in the situation 329 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: like this, And least, but not least, if you're going 330 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 1: to work on the car by yourself, consider doing something 331 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: like the Mighty Vat kit. The Mighty Vat handheld kit 332 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: with a break bleeder cup attachment, you know, hundred bucks 333 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,719 Speaker 1: or less. I think it is for a nice kit 334 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: and will allow you to bleed the system as a 335 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: one man bleeder. That's specifically what it's designed for. But UM, 336 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: give those things a call. Great. I'm sorry I couldn't 337 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: be more help. Uh, you need a system, buddy. If 338 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: that doesn't work, and UM, I think it'll be good 339 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: from there. I appreciate it. I hope that helped. I 340 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: kind of came in as an emergency emergency email. I'm 341 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: running any of the Car Doctor. 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The 360 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: battery terminal wire attached, but if I take to it 361 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: when it is attached, the car runs very rough. There's 362 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: no power, and I can't keep an island at its 363 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: stopped on. I have to keep gradually a touching accelerated 364 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: to keep it going. And I'm wondering if I haven't 365 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: open between the battery terminal UH and the battery, and 366 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: I was open that someone might be able to help me. Okay, 367 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: here's here's what I think is going on, James in that, 368 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: and let me just repeat that for everyone because the 369 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: phone broke up a little bit. So you've got an 370 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: eighty nine suburban with a five point seven leader. It's 371 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: a rear wheel drive and the issue is it's got 372 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: a rough idol. It runs rough. You have to keep 373 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: your foot on the accelerator pedal to keep it running 374 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: it idle, otherwise it might stall. And if you disconnect 375 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: the alternator heavy battery wire, the car runs okay, but 376 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: obviously it's not charging. Is that a correct statement? That's 377 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: that's correct. Okay. So what I believe here is, now, 378 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: have you changed the alternators? At what sort of work 379 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: has been done to it to this point? I've had 380 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: a lot of works done to it, UH new distributed new, 381 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: UH cap rodo condensers and replace one problem body injective 382 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: and the other one cleans early and several other things. 383 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: That they plopped out the alternator about five times thinking 384 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: they may have had a bad alternator? Okay, was the 385 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 1: was the problem always there? In other words, before all 386 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: this work was done, did it have the rough vital 387 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: in the surge? Well? I had it laid up, and 388 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: the last time I took it out and drove it, 389 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: it was coughing and cutting and it just bumped stopped 390 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: and I wait a few minutes to start it back up. 391 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: Finally got it back home and uh, coming to find 392 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: out I had a bad fuel pump. Replace that, the 393 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: fuel filter, UH, A number of other things that, uh, 394 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: we're done to it, but we still can't get the 395 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: alternative problem. Okay, let me just let me just comment 396 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 1: a little bit if I can, James, and then I'll 397 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:40,959 Speaker 1: give you the answer the fact that it sat for 398 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: a length of time and you had a fuel pump issue. 399 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that both of us 400 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: realize that there's a possibility as a secondary problem that 401 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: I just want to know that the inside of the 402 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: gas tank was looked at and that the tank is 403 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: clean and the fuel is clean so that we're feeding. Yeah, okay, 404 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: they drained the tank and put a new filter in there, 405 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean a new uh fuel pump and replaced the 406 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: filter and still would wouldn't act right. Okay, So with 407 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: with that being said, as long as I know I've 408 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: got a good fuel supply, the next thing I want 409 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: to do because I like that, I like to do 410 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: the simple things first and I just cover the basics 411 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: and you know, lay the groundwork, so to speak, is 412 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: my my next step. I would like to know, obviously, 413 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: do I have battery voltage at that heavy battery wire 414 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: going to the alternator. There's gonna be a heavy wire 415 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: the battery stud at a two wire plug in I 416 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: believe in eighty nine for the back of the alternator. 417 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: One's gonna be red and the other one's gonna be 418 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: brown or white. The red is gonna be battery voltage 419 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: keion coming through the gauge views and I just I 420 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: just want to know that I've got hot where I'm 421 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: supposed to have hot and the fuse is okay, and 422 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is. I just like I said, I 423 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: just want to cover the basics, knowing that the charging 424 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: system with a good alternator that's been changed five times, 425 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: as you say, it would work all right, And of 426 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: course there's a possibility. Let me just ask for the conversation, Um, 427 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: what brand alternator? Something local, something the mechanics worked with before. 428 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 1: He has faith in it that it's not the part itself. Yes, 429 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 1: it's brand new, and uh they got it from one 430 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: or news thoughts suppliers. They've got a good track record 431 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: with that brand, okay. And the only reason I say 432 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: that is because I don't care whether it's new or 433 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: ten years old. New means never ever worked. Ten years 434 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: old means I still want to understand where it came from. 435 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: So I trust nothing. I've learned that. I've got stories 436 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: about some Delco ignition parts from two weeks ago. That 437 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: would turn everybody's hair gray. So that being said, the 438 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: next step, tell your mechanic to check the resistance value 439 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: of both injectors. I don't care that the one is new. 440 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: I want to know what the resistance value is. These 441 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: cars were very susceptible. Two and this is a throttle body, correct, 442 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: There are two injectors on this vehicle, right, they were. 443 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: They were very susceptible. Two bad injectors. High resistance would 444 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: drive the onboard computer crazy, all right, and in some 445 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 1: cases actually damaged the e c M. All right. So 446 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: it's a simple it's a simple test. Unplugged both injectors 447 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 1: at the top of the throttle body. And I always, 448 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 1: I always in this case, these were a little fussier 449 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: than the port fuel motors. I would always shorten my 450 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: leads together, my omemeter leads together, and see what the 451 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: resistance value is and calculate that into the measurement. Because 452 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: you should see one point two to two homes of 453 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: resistance at a room temperature of about sixty eight to 454 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: seventy degrees. All right, And I've got a feeling you're 455 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: gonna find that one of those or both of those 456 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: is out of that range. And the other way to 457 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: do it is if they both read normal, get the engine, 458 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: get the engine warmed up. When it's warmed up, shut 459 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: it off, measure the resistance. They should both be pretty 460 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: close to each other if one of them is way 461 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: out of range, and then I'm gonna start to think 462 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: we've got a problem with that injector, all right, because 463 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: what I think is going what I think is going 464 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: on here. Back in the day, the problems we used 465 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: to have were the injectors would put electrical spikes out 466 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: and that would get filtered all the way back to 467 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: the PCM or the e c M is what it 468 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: was called in today, and it actually would cause the 469 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: vehicle to run rough and in some cases shut it down. That, 470 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: in combination with the alternator, would start to fight with 471 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 1: you in the electrical of the circuits of the vehicle, 472 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 1: in the electrical in the electrical circuits of the vehicle. Alright, sir, 473 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: But that's where I would go next. I'd want to 474 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: know what the resistance value is of those two injectors 475 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: and make sure it's correct. One point two to two 476 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: holms was what general motors called for. Back alight, all right, 477 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: you tell him that you give me a call back 478 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: if you need help. I'm here for you. Okay, Well 479 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: you you're very welcome, Sorr. You have a good rest 480 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: of the day. Very important that we look at some 481 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: specific things in a situation like that. And while I 482 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: understand they've they've changed parts and why, I want to 483 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: know why. And I understand new doesn't mean good. Um, 484 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: you know we're we're always in that situation too, where 485 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: you've got to fix what you know is bad. Monday, Well, 486 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: actually it started yesterday Friday and two thousand four Addurn 487 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: View was in my bay for a cooling fan that 488 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: didn't work. Actually it worked all the time. It didn't 489 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: It never shut off, and they had done a thermostat. 490 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: There were a couple of codes for cooling system being inefficient. 491 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 1: Long story short, The only thing I found wrong with 492 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: it was the low speed. The drop resistor for the 493 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: low speed side of the fan assembly is open. Do 494 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: I know that's gonna make the high speed fan run 495 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: all the time. I'm thinking yes, because I'm thinking the 496 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: logic from Saturn. They used a feedback system to monitor 497 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: if the fan, if the low speed fan was working, 498 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: if the low speed fans not working. It's going to 499 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: create a problem because that fan to run all the time. 500 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: I'll find out Monday. Because the low speed I found 501 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: a low speed dropping resistor through Delco and will install that. 502 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: But my point is fix what you know is bad. 503 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: Go on from there, zero nine zero zero running any 504 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor coming up next, our Facebook T 505 00:28:55,240 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: shirt winner of the week. Stay tuned, Hey, welcome back. 506 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: We're on the n of the Car Doctor. Happy to 507 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: be here with you. Eight five zero zero zero the 508 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 1: phone number. Give us a call. Keep in mind that seven. 509 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: Give us a call, leave a message. If we're not 510 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: on the air, and Fast Harry our executive producer, we'll 511 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: call you back and get you in the lineup for 512 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: the following week and we can talk to you about 513 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: your car problem and fix it for you. That's what 514 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: this radio shows about. Speaking of Fast Harry. Is Harry 515 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: out there somewhere, Harry, I'm right here. Hey, bro Um, 516 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: it's the time for the Facebook T shirt winner of 517 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: the hour this week. Okay, let me read you to 518 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: the question, Ronad the question Now, this is from Kevin Flood. 519 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: Kevin is a long time listener and he's in England. 520 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: Yeah sure, So here's question. Hi Ron, here's a question 521 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: for you. I have a nine model A sport coupe 522 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: that I imported to the UK a few years back, 523 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: and my question is around oil. As you know, this 524 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: car is a babbit bearing non oil filter lubrication system. 525 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: I removed the oil pan a while back and cleaned 526 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: out the years of sludge left from a combination of 527 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: non detergent oil and lack of changes over the years. 528 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: I ran some synthetic ten way thirty and for a 529 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: few days to complete the cleanup, and now I've gone 530 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: back to straight s a forty mineral non detergent oil. 531 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: Would it be wise to stay with the forty weight 532 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: mineral or do you think, say a ten weight thirty 533 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: synthetic would at least would at least do do no 534 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: harm and perhaps the benefit of the long term. That 535 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: was a little typo there in his Facebook post. I 536 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: love the show, Kevin reading Berkshire, UK. You can well, 537 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Thanks very good jump. You know 538 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: it's funny A friend of mine has a as a 539 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: Model A and we we talked about this all the time, 540 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, Hick tells me that and during 541 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: the course of the conversation. He too was concerned about 542 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: oil and you know, how much to put in and 543 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: what weight and what viscosity. And we had the whole 544 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: Pens oil conversation, and I made him get out the 545 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: Penns Oil Synthetics Penns Oil Synthetics dot com and read 546 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: all about their synthetics and how their synthetics do help 547 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: clean because they that is a plus. But in the end, 548 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: in a Babbid style bearing of something of this age, 549 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: think about what we're talking about. We're talking about an 550 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: engine that's been around close to ninety years. It's survived 551 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: on such a variety of oils and such a variety 552 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: of owners. I'm sure the care and and and expertise 553 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: level given it sometimes weren't great, and it's still managed 554 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: to get here. Look at the design and the technology. 555 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: Look at how good it was. My concern with going 556 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: to a multi visk and something like this, Kevin, and 557 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: and what I said to Mike, Um, my friend with 558 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: the A is that it's a Babbitt style and you 559 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: you worry about viscosity, You worry about um putting something 560 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: in their tooth in, you know, trying to add technology 561 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: to We're a place where technology may not do any good. 562 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: And as far as cleaning the oil, you know, using 563 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: word about the synthetic and help clean because it will 564 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: pends oil. Synthetic will help clean up the engine. Uh. 565 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: You know, the fact is you're gonna change the oil 566 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: so often now because you're trying to take care of it. 567 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna baby it that I don't know that you know, 568 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: sludge is going to become an issue. So if it 569 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: were me, I would probably stay with the s A 570 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: E forty mineral non detergent oil. And if you wanted 571 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: to run a little synthetic through it once in a 572 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: while to help clean up whatever sledge might be forming 573 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: or whatever sledge might think come out, that's good too. 574 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: You know, we ran this past one of our engine 575 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: builders that we know a couple of years back, and 576 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: his conversation. His comment was, why would you take the 577 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: sledge out? It's probably what's keeping the engine quiet because 578 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: it's running on the sledge and that's what's helping the 579 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: engine survival these years. So stay with the s A forty, 580 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: use the synthetic if you want as a cleaner on 581 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: an occasional basis. You can read all about penns Oil 582 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: Synthetics at Penns Oil Synthetics dot com and draw your 583 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: own conclusions. But Hickey still running his heavyweight one viscosity 584 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: oil and he's doing it the same way where he 585 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: runs a Pennz oil synthetic through it on an occasional basis, 586 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: and that seems to do the job for him. I'm 587 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: sure it will for you. Hey, Kevin, I appreciate the call, 588 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: and I appreciate you going through the effort to take 589 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: the podcast and listen in on the show from good 590 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 1: old England. And we're gonna be sending a Car Doctor 591 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: t shirt your way. Just please send me an email 592 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: round at Car Doctor Show dot com with your name 593 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: and address and we'll kind of go from there. And 594 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: for everyone else, if you want one like the page, 595 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: like the run and any of the Car Doctor page, 596 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: send us a question zero nine zero zero. We'll be 597 00:33:52,840 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: back right after this, Hey, Ron and any of the 598 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: Car Doctor qua another hour flew by. Listen quick piece 599 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: of email. Ron, This comes to us from Bob, a 600 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: friend of mine wants the best ceramic pads and rotors 601 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: for his oh nine Dodge Ram pick up. Do you 602 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 1: have any brand recommendations are there any made in the 603 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: good old USA anymore? You know, Bob, I don't think 604 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: anybody's breaks are made in the USA. I think they're well, 605 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 1: I should say it like this. I think some are 606 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: assembled here, but the components are from overseas. So keeping 607 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: that in mind, what I would tell you is get 608 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: out to the folks at O'Reilly oto dot com. Take 609 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: a look at Oriley Oto Parts oriley odo dot com. 610 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: The nice thing about their website is, and it's real simple. 611 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: You plu in the vehicle see you tell them two 612 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: thousand nine dodge Ram hit breaks, and it will bring 613 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: up every brake manufacturer they have and give you the 614 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: choice of what parts you can look at, and from 615 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: there you can do your research. It's sort of like 616 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: a one stop place, you know, one stop shopping, so 617 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: to speak. Get a list of what parts are available, 618 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: and then if you have any questions, you can call 619 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: their eight hundred number, their toll free number and ask 620 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: them and say, hey, I'm in wherever you are. I 621 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: think you're up in Vermont. Um, I'm in Vermont. I'm 622 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: looking for breaks for an on nine dodge Ram. What's good, 623 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: what works? And and the one thing about O'Reilly Ota parts. 624 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: That sets them apart from the others, And I've said 625 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: this to their competitors and they don't seem to listen. 626 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 1: Is that O'Reilly Ota parts, not just cares, but their 627 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: parts people. They get it. They're not just there to 628 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: sell you something. They're there to sell you something that works, 629 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: and that's what it's all about. And whether you're a 630 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: younger old fifteen to fifty, they talk to you like 631 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: a person. And that's one of the things I've always 632 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: liked my n in dealing with riley Oto parts. So 633 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: get out to riley Oto dot com see what they've 634 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: got and you can kind of make a decision from 635 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: there as well as called They're eight dred two free number. 636 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 1: I'm not an any in the car doctor. I want 637 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: to thank you for stopping by this hour until the 638 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: next time. The mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.