WEBVTT - Acolyte Episode 5 & Elden Ring DLC

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<v Speaker 1>Today's episode contains spoilers for the action packed fifth episode

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<v Speaker 1>of The Acolyte and some spoilers for the new Elden

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<v Speaker 1>Ring DLC Shadow of the ur Tree. You were warned.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and on Rosday Night

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<v Speaker 2>and welcome back the x Ray Vision, the podcast where

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<v Speaker 2>we dive deep in your favorite shows, movies, comics and

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<v Speaker 2>pop culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming to you from my Heart, where we're bringing you

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<v Speaker 1>to to to action packed episodes every Tuesday Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>In today's episode, in the previously on, it's a surprisingly

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<v Speaker 3>big DC Newsday. Yeah, we're going to talk about an

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<v Speaker 3>unexpected announcement from HBO and the James Gunn of Verse

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<v Speaker 3>with the Lanterns series.

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<v Speaker 4>Get Green lim and coming soon to Amazon Prime.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the unbelievably good looking Batman Cape Crusader trailer, which

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<v Speaker 3>just dropped this morning. In the l it's The Acolyte

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<v Speaker 3>episode five that will get people talking.

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<v Speaker 4>Are they gonna stop complaining? We don't know, but we

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<v Speaker 4>loved it. Cheat Code elderm.

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<v Speaker 3>Ring's new DLC Shadow of the Tree. We're gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>bringing in a correspondent for that one. And in Who's Who,

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<v Speaker 3>our favorite jaw dropping moment in gaming, which actually I

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<v Speaker 3>think I probably know which one me and Jason are

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<v Speaker 3>both gonna pick.

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<v Speaker 4>But first previously on.

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<v Speaker 1>First Up. In what I would classify as a very

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<v Speaker 1>surprising announcement, I did not see this coming, HBO has

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<v Speaker 1>announced that they have Green Lid punintended a new DC

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<v Speaker 1>show Lanterns live action series under the ages of James

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<v Speaker 1>Gunn and Peter Saffran. Eight episodes covering your favorite favorite

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<v Speaker 1>Interglaca space police officers, the Green Lantern Force, and this

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<v Speaker 1>will be show run by Chris Mundy, who gave you

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<v Speaker 1>a true detective Night Country and Ozark and ep Heed

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<v Speaker 1>by a former CIA agent and comic book writer Tom

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<v Speaker 1>King and Damon Linlaw. Yes your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 4>I was not expecting this to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm interested that they're basically leaning into the space cops

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<v Speaker 3>part of it, because that's kind of something we just

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<v Speaker 3>joke about with the Green Lanterns. It's not necessarily a

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<v Speaker 3>pitch for a TV show, but I love John Stewart.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going to be how and John Stewart, and

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<v Speaker 3>the idea is that they kind of have to come

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<v Speaker 3>down to Earth to solve a mystery about a murder.

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<v Speaker 3>In the American Heartland.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know I would.

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<v Speaker 3>When I look for a green landin show, I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>for something cosmic, something weird.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to see aliens.

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<v Speaker 3>So this isn't necessarily the pitch I would have picked up,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm interested. I'm very happy to see that James

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<v Speaker 3>Gunn is kind of directly taking from some comic book

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<v Speaker 3>stuff here, that is, with the inclusion of having Tom

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<v Speaker 3>King on.

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<v Speaker 4>As an EP So, yeah, it's interesting. I will keep

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<v Speaker 4>my eyes peeled for this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, a true detective influenced Lantern series. You

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<v Speaker 1>have my attention quite interested, and I do wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>tonally this will be in the same kind of mode

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<v Speaker 1>that we can kind of expect from the Penguin series having.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be that kind of thing because.

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<v Speaker 3>The Penguin series does look really good and that leans

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<v Speaker 3>into that kind of mob crime aesthetic.

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<v Speaker 4>So having another show.

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<v Speaker 3>That kind of takes a different look at crime in

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<v Speaker 3>the DC universe, this more being a true detective style,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of actually supernatural grounded greed. That could be interesting. Actually,

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that thought process.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up, the trailer for Caped Crusader, the new series

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<v Speaker 1>for Matt Reeves, JJ Abrams and Warner Brothers animation has

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<v Speaker 1>dropped and folks were excited.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna say it looks great. And also, can I

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<v Speaker 3>just say something, David Zavlav, my friend, my pal, my

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<v Speaker 3>old mate. I need to tell you something, sir. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like you are going to regret.

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<v Speaker 4>Not putting this on Max. After the absolute massive success

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<v Speaker 4>of X.

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<v Speaker 3>Men ninety seven, I feel like there is a bigger

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<v Speaker 3>hunger than ever for animated storytelling in the superhero world.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know what, I just I hope that.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever money Amazon Prime paid you, and I'm sure it

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<v Speaker 3>is a lot, I just think this one should have

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<v Speaker 3>been on Max. I think it would have been a

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<v Speaker 3>huge Max release. I think it would have added press.

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<v Speaker 3>I would have loved to see it, But you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just happy it existed. Jamie Chung Harley Quinn looks cool.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize it was gonna be like a cool forties.

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<v Speaker 4>Noir set in the era of.

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<v Speaker 3>Batman, kind of just emerging and the Gotham Police trying

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<v Speaker 3>to stop him. We get to see some really cool

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<v Speaker 3>villains here. I also love that they went for the

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<v Speaker 3>old school, Golden age long ear Batman's shoe and the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like almost like pathetic shoes, his little kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like goblin shoes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I just thought it looked so good.

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<v Speaker 3>I was excited for it, but I didn't really know

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<v Speaker 3>the premis because there's been so little talked about. But

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<v Speaker 3>it looked stunning and I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Also featured in the series Christina Ricci, Selena Kyle, and

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<v Speaker 1>Diedrich Barter as Harvey Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and this is our first time hearing Hamish Linklater's Batman,

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<v Speaker 3>and it sounds very good. He's very great result and

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<v Speaker 3>very serious and he's ready to stop some criming Gotham.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, what do you think the strategy is

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<v Speaker 1>behind the Amazon release? I do wonder if you know

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<v Speaker 1>Sony has I think wisely navigated the streaming era and

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<v Speaker 1>now the post kind of streaming era by saying, we're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to create content for other people and sell

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<v Speaker 1>that content. We're just going to create stuff that can

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<v Speaker 1>run anywhere that people will want to watch. You do

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if this is like a pivot from the Warner

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers Discovery. Okay, We're we're never going to compete with

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix on subscribers. Let's become a producer of content that

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<v Speaker 1>people want.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that is absolutely a large part of their

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<v Speaker 3>current and moving forward plans, because if you look now,

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<v Speaker 3>you can go on chewbe like a free ad supported service,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can see The Batman. You can go on

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<v Speaker 3>Netflix and you can see pretty much every Warner Brothers movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Warner Brothers is no longer worried about having all their

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<v Speaker 3>exclusive content on Max, which now encompasses so much more

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<v Speaker 3>discovery programming and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that this is a way for David's.

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<v Speaker 3>As love to get rid of that debt and make

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<v Speaker 3>this money, and I'm very interested about where we go

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<v Speaker 3>from here. This is also the second Batman animated project

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<v Speaker 3>that they've put on Amazon Prime after I think it

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<v Speaker 3>was called like Merry Little Batman Christmas or something, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was like really cute and it was about Damian

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<v Speaker 3>Wayne trying to be a hero at Christmas, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was very weird, super experimental animation, and again something that

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like could have been quite a boon to Max.

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<v Speaker 3>But I understand that Amazon probably paid them a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of money for this, and if it means it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to get an incredible release, then why not, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's gonna if this is gonna actually get pushed

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<v Speaker 3>and promoted, the cost is incredible. I think there's so

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<v Speaker 3>many other people in this role in this show, like

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<v Speaker 3>Adam pointed out, like Mini Driver, McKenna grace read Scott.

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<v Speaker 3>We just don't know who they're playing yet McKenna Grace.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's a good Carrie Kelly or Stephanie Brown

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<v Speaker 3>or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I'd love to see that. But yeah, I'm very interested.

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<v Speaker 4>But I do think you're right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what Warner Brothers is doing now that

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<v Speaker 3>they're happy to have their content elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Next up, we get our first look at David corn

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<v Speaker 1>Sweat in his Clark Kent get up, as studio pictures

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<v Speaker 1>from the new Superman movie have begun to emerge. We

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<v Speaker 1>also see Rachel Brosnahan as as Lois Lane. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not too much to dig into, but let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm seeing.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's talk about Clark Kent's hair.

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite bushy, and I think it's I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I When I think Clark Kent, I usually think a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a fifties kind of like slicked back, slicked back,

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<v Speaker 1>low pompadour kind of thing, and this is more of

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, a mop.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like a cuition.

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<v Speaker 3>I was surprised a cool youngster's haircut, which I found

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<v Speaker 3>interesting but also could be an interesting twist on why

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<v Speaker 3>don't people recognize Superman when he's Superman. Well, maybe he's

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<v Speaker 3>not wearing glasses and he's got his hair slick back.

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<v Speaker 3>Also another cool thing that we saw from this these

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<v Speaker 3>set photos which leaked are the Eddie Gatheggi Mister Terrific,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like directly adapting that really famous Alex Ross

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<v Speaker 3>painting with the fair play on the arms and the mask.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks great.

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<v Speaker 3>Was that was probably the thing I was most excited about,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think that's a character who hasn't necessarily got

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<v Speaker 3>on his shine, even though I will say shout out

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<v Speaker 3>to the CW and Echo Kellam who played him on

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<v Speaker 3>The Seed, because that was actually a pretty cool take.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm excited to see a more classic take in

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<v Speaker 3>this series.

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<v Speaker 1>There's some other set photos that have come out I

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<v Speaker 1>think just today since since these more official kind of

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<v Speaker 1>set photos have dropped, that appeared to show Superman being

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<v Speaker 1>taken into custody by the military and also Rick Flagg

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<v Speaker 1>Senior and engineer. Oh, this is quite interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>That would kind of lean into our theory of like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the the Authority are essentially going to be

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<v Speaker 3>like a kind of a government superhero body and they

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<v Speaker 3>already exist, and the question is is Superman did he

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<v Speaker 3>predate them or is he a young hero coming up

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<v Speaker 3>who's not working under the guise of the government and

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<v Speaker 3>they want to kind of control him. I'm very interested.

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<v Speaker 3>So it does seem like it will be a Superman

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<v Speaker 3>versus the Authority situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next' stepping out of the air lock and

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Acolyte Episode five.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in the airlock, look at us, and now we're

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<v Speaker 3>stepping out of it into the forests of Kofar where

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<v Speaker 3>things are. They're not going well for the Jedi, those

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<v Speaker 3>smartly dressed golden robe Jedies, well they got force flung

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<v Speaker 3>by the mysterious Master.

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<v Speaker 4>At the end of the last episode.

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<v Speaker 3>He absolutely just rocked their ship like boom into a tree,

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<v Speaker 3>rocked the shit like it was bad.

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<v Speaker 4>And we join Osha who awakens next.

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<v Speaker 3>To the body, well very close to the body of

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<v Speaker 3>a dead Jedi, the first of many we will see

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<v Speaker 3>in this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sadly the.

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<v Speaker 3>First of many. It's not going well for the Jedi.

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<v Speaker 3>If we were doing a scorecard, they would be losing.

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<v Speaker 3>And interestingly, in the strange of red remnants of the

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<v Speaker 3>masked Force users' powers now it seems like was this

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<v Speaker 3>a tree or some kind of naturally occurring dust around here,

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<v Speaker 3>But whatever happened, there's kind of this strange giant Force

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<v Speaker 3>handprint left from where he flung those aforementioned Jedis. And

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<v Speaker 3>as the sound of lightsabers rings through the forest, very

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<v Speaker 3>exciting for those who have been complaining there's not enough

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<v Speaker 3>lightsabers in this show. There's bad news for Osha because

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<v Speaker 3>the mask Man has his buff arms out and is

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<v Speaker 3>just absolutely cooking the Jedi. And this episode does feel

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<v Speaker 3>specifically targeted at those viewers who feel like there wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>enough lightsaber action in the show, because it is lightsaber

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<v Speaker 3>Battle o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a just an entire episode that is a

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<v Speaker 1>lightsaber s smaga's.

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<v Speaker 3>Board of fantastic lightsaber work. There was a very famous quote,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe in the lead up to the show coming

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<v Speaker 3>out where somebody said, oh, we want to do better

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<v Speaker 3>fights than you know, the prequels. We want to have

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<v Speaker 3>a fight that's as good as the darth More lightsaber fight.

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<v Speaker 4>And I have to say that is a high bar,

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<v Speaker 4>but I think we do get that in this episode.

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<v Speaker 5>We do get it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the camera work is great, the choreography is wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>You really feel the swings, yeah, like particularly from Man.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to this, but when Jeckie gets in the mix,

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<v Speaker 1>oh man, she is swinging for the fight. She's swinging

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<v Speaker 1>to take the Stranger's head off.

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<v Speaker 4>She's taking that head off.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think something that we get here that's really

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<v Speaker 3>cool is we get multiple Jedi fighting at one time,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think we haven't gotten to see a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think for a lot of people, like when

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<v Speaker 3>they were talking about the prequels and kind of the

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<v Speaker 3>fights that were in the prequels, especially the later prequels,

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<v Speaker 3>there was this promise of these epic Jedi versus you know,

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<v Speaker 3>dark side fights that never necessarily came.

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<v Speaker 4>And here you get them.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you get them Jecky Saul, the Stranger. We're really

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<v Speaker 3>getting some good stuff. And interestingly, we see that Zipper

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<v Speaker 3>Face aka the Stranger, aka the mass Master, aka someone

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<v Speaker 3>else that we will reveal later has found a way

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<v Speaker 3>to disrupt lightsabers.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, I was watching this very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was watching this with my incredible friend Jewels,

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<v Speaker 3>which was very funny because he is like a Star Wars,

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<v Speaker 3>especially High Republic kind of mastermind. But he pointed out

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<v Speaker 3>that that's kind of like the nameless in the High

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<v Speaker 3>Republic books. They have a way of basically disrupting lightsabers.

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<v Speaker 3>But as some of our discord users pointed out, which

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<v Speaker 3>I think is probably what we're seeing here, it looks

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<v Speaker 3>like his armor is made of something like cortosis, which

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<v Speaker 3>is this kind of brittle awe which on contact would

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<v Speaker 3>cause lightsabers to kind of short out, and we see

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<v Speaker 3>that in the books.

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<v Speaker 1>So it says I'm sad, Yeah, because he's able to

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<v Speaker 1>use his helmet to this direct disruptor the lightsaber blade and.

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<v Speaker 3>It kind of instantly stops it from working, and his

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<v Speaker 3>kind of Soul fights Zipper Face and we get some

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<v Speaker 3>of that really good action, and it's really nice because

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<v Speaker 3>we get to see the light reflecting back. We get

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<v Speaker 3>the blue light on Soul and the red light on

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<v Speaker 3>Zipper Face, and it looks very dramatic. You're just trying

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<v Speaker 3>to wrangle Osha back to the ship. He's like, it's me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a cop.

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<v Speaker 4>My boss gave me an order.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to get back to the ship, Babe, I

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<v Speaker 3>can't go back, and she's like, we gotta can't leave

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<v Speaker 3>our friends behind.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fucked up, and.

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<v Speaker 3>They kind of continue this little argument as the showdown

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<v Speaker 3>between Soul and Zipper Face ramps up, and this is

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we get this great line that I think

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<v Speaker 3>all of us love, and Soul says, you carry a

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<v Speaker 3>Jedi weapon, but you are no Jedi. We love it

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<v Speaker 3>when someone says, but you are no Jedi. That's like

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<v Speaker 3>an iconic Star Wars moment. And the Latimer seriously says,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't remember me now, Jason, Big question bomb bom So.

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<v Speaker 3>In our discord, there has been a lot of discussion

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<v Speaker 3>about does he mean because they met in the apocryphy

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<v Speaker 3>a few days ago, or because they have a deeper

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<v Speaker 3>pass connection that we're going to explore, Like which one

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<v Speaker 3>do you think deeper past?

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<v Speaker 4>I think so too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too heavy, it's too heavy.

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<v Speaker 3>And also he's still wearing the mask at that point,

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<v Speaker 3>so why would Saul remember him?

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever thing is motivating Chimeer the Stranger against the Jets. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Stranger against the Jedi feels too personal and furthermore soul.

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<v Speaker 1>This entire series has appeared to be holding something back.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah he is.

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's more we also learn here, which I

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<v Speaker 3>love that Sol the zipper face sorry is rocking essentially

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<v Speaker 3>a magneto helmet which stops the Jedi being able to

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<v Speaker 3>get into his head and Jedi mind control him. I

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<v Speaker 3>think this is very interesting because whatever happened to the Stranger,

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<v Speaker 3>we got some interesting lines earlier this season where where

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<v Speaker 3>Kaimer was in the apocrphy and he said, don't Jedi

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<v Speaker 3>mind wipe me Anna.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of been like a recurring theme here.

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<v Speaker 3>We saw the Witches getting into the Jedi's heads, but

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<v Speaker 3>there seems to be this fear of what the Jedi

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<v Speaker 3>can do if they get into your mind. So let's

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<v Speaker 3>hold on to that and think about it. And Jeckie

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<v Speaker 3>fans rejoice again our favorite She's back.

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<v Speaker 4>And guess what, she's badass, the little real badass. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>not only is she just a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little half feeling joy to the whole, sweet innocent babe,

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<v Speaker 3>but she is a badass from the moment she steps

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<v Speaker 3>on the scene. This episode, there is this great handtam

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<v Speaker 3>fighting sequence with May that's super extended, and every time

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it would finish, it continued, and interestingly, narratively,

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<v Speaker 3>the pair are very equally matched with similar handtam fighting styles,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think adds fuel to the proverbial fire that

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<v Speaker 3>the man behind the mask is or at one point was,

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<v Speaker 3>a Jedi, which is what Vnestra suspected because she was

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<v Speaker 3>like May has been trained by a Jedi, and seeing

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<v Speaker 3>how equally matched May is with Jeckie, who is currently

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<v Speaker 3>a Padawan, that seems to support that theory. Deep in

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<v Speaker 3>the forest, Jeorde's trying to get Osha back to the ship. Still,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how far this ship is, but I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like they parked it too far away, and pauses

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<v Speaker 3>to give a little insight into zipper faces powers. He

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<v Speaker 3>can get inside my head and stay there again those

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<v Speaker 3>Jedi mind wipes. That Jedi's getting into your head. Osha

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<v Speaker 3>points out that is something we saw the Witches do

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<v Speaker 3>to torbin Irp to that man, and so is Zipper

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<v Speaker 3>Face a.

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<v Speaker 4>Student of the witches? Is he one of them? Like

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<v Speaker 4>we're gonna find out soon.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he is like another child like Ocean

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what witches. I think, so we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see that they kept hidden. Maybe they kept him because

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<v Speaker 1>he was a boy.

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<v Speaker 4>Wowow, that's really good. I didn't think about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like he's a boy or he's you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>because there was just one so it was all dark

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<v Speaker 3>side potentially. Anyway, zipper Face shows up and him and

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<v Speaker 3>Jackie battle it out in Ironically, in a show full

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<v Speaker 3>of fantastic action, this is some of the best action.

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<v Speaker 3>We unbelievable, we get doubles, Jeckie's breaking out the double sabers.

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<v Speaker 3>She is completely on her shit, like on fire doing

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<v Speaker 3>great Soul comes to Jecki's rescue when it starts to

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<v Speaker 3>look a little bit dicey and uh smashes zipper Face's helmet,

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<v Speaker 3>revealing they're not so surprising true dunt dun dune, that

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<v Speaker 3>it was crime here behind the mask the whole time,

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<v Speaker 3>which we were wrong, but were not so listen not alone.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think the show wanted us to know.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the show had fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Playing a drunken master trope, playing the surprise he's he

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<v Speaker 3>was right beside you all a long trope, and they

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<v Speaker 3>even kind of have a little meta moment here where

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<v Speaker 3>he forced drags May.

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<v Speaker 4>And he says, you really didn't know it was me,

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<v Speaker 4>even deep down.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just want to say congrats to Leslie Hedlund,

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<v Speaker 3>congrats to Manny Jacinto, because this is probably the sexiest

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<v Speaker 3>Sith of all time. There's always been a Sith fandom,

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<v Speaker 3>a thirst for the darkness and the dark side. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>the kids who would always rather be be hanging out

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<v Speaker 3>with Anakin even though he would have killed them. But

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<v Speaker 3>whatever as so as whatever was lost in surprise was

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<v Speaker 3>gained in hotness, I would say he's climbing up the

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<v Speaker 3>ranks of the hot Sith lords, most hot Sith lords ever.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, he didn't kill any babies as far as

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<v Speaker 3>we know, like Anakin, so Kaimer is very hot. Sorry haters,

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<v Speaker 3>And just like our Sol and Jackie are like clearly

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<v Speaker 3>distracted by the sexiness of the new Sith because boom,

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<v Speaker 3>he just kills Jackie. Like Jackie sees his face and

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<v Speaker 3>she's like, you're so sexy, I can't fight back anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>And also he stabbed her like three very specific places,

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<v Speaker 3>like which I think is interesting in a triangle pattern,

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<v Speaker 3>because my lovely friend Jewels, we were screaming, we couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>believe Jackie was dead, and Jews was like, maybe she

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<v Speaker 3>survived because.

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<v Speaker 4>She's feeling and we don't know where her organs are.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was like, I feel like if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 3>he specifically was going for the organs.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it was like long lung, heart cool. It

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy that it was actually much more graphic than

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<v Speaker 1>I was expecting for a Disney Plus Star Wars show.

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<v Speaker 3>I do feel like they kind of kept that hidden

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<v Speaker 3>in a really nice way because some of the other shows,

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<v Speaker 3>like Echo, they've kind of hyped up like this is dark,

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<v Speaker 3>this is scary.

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<v Speaker 4>There's gonna be violence.

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<v Speaker 3>But in this show, we've been it's a bit a

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<v Speaker 3>bit more of a YA vibe, younger protagonists, this kind

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<v Speaker 3>of slow burn mystery. But this episode the Jedi get

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<v Speaker 3>got there is like a Jedi massacre. We and and sadly,

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<v Speaker 3>Jecki is not the only fan faith character who dies,

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<v Speaker 3>because almost immediately, guess who else gets killed?

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<v Speaker 1>You listen, we did predict that Jord would visit the Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were correct. I was sadly correct. He gets

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<v Speaker 1>his X snap snap in another what I think was

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<v Speaker 1>quite a brutal kill for a Disney Plus television program

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<v Speaker 1>m HM, but yeah, I am saddened. I'm saddened by

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<v Speaker 1>the losses of Solon, by the losses of Jeckie and you.

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<v Speaker 3>I would rather yeah, I mean, at this point, I

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<v Speaker 3>know Soul's been up to some stuff, so I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we gotta I would rather like he took

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<v Speaker 3>the lightsaber chopped here than either of these two kids

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<v Speaker 3>who are just trying their best to keep up with

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<v Speaker 3>their master. And you know, they kind of get squashed

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<v Speaker 3>like insects, which is very ironic because that will soon

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<v Speaker 3>come back on Climate as Osha comes up with a

0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:42.159
<v Speaker 3>very smart plan using insects. But before we get there,

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<v Speaker 3>Kimer tries to spread some descent by revealing that Osha

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't trust Saul after all he's done to interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like that will come into play.

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<v Speaker 3>Saul almost chops Kimer's head off because I think he

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<v Speaker 3>is like so fucking stressed about getting exposed. Osha stops him,

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<v Speaker 3>and Soul says his mind is twisted by darkness, and

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<v Speaker 3>Climate bites back with what's one of like the Codus

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<v Speaker 3>lines in.

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<v Speaker 4>Sith history, and he says, I've accepted my darkness. What

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<v Speaker 4>have you done with yours. So good, so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the problem. I mean, we were talking about this

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<v Speaker 1>before we turn off the mics. Here's another issue with

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<v Speaker 1>the dark Light dichotomy and the Jedi's monopolization of the

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<v Speaker 1>force in general. Don't you also have to have the

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<v Speaker 1>best method of wielding the force?

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<v Speaker 4>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You're getting washed by this guy. He's taken out half

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen Jedi and the peak of that powers at

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<v Speaker 1>the peak and their powers, all of them concentrating on

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<v Speaker 1>they can't take him down. Now, the helmet gave him

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<v Speaker 1>a magneto like advantage. You're right, where the Jedi couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>maybe use the parts of the Force they relate with

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<v Speaker 1>that are stronger than a dark Side users. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's kind of you know, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>bad for the brand.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's bad for the brand.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, if you guys monopolize the force and you're also

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<v Speaker 1>like not as good as one force dark force wielder, Ye,

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<v Speaker 1>who's dunking on all of you?

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<v Speaker 3>Especially because this guy is like not it doesn't at

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<v Speaker 3>least as far as we know, is not some like

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<v Speaker 3>well trained guy like this.

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<v Speaker 1>He even feels very rough.

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<v Speaker 3>So asked him, like, what do you want like what's

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<v Speaker 3>the purpose of this And he's like, I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to use my powers without being told I shouldn't exist,

0:24:38.680 --> 0:24:41.520
<v Speaker 3>which is what you guys do constantly, and he does.

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<v Speaker 3>We get that huge moment here where he says, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I have no name, but you know, you Jedi would

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<v Speaker 3>probably call me a sith But even in that moment,

0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 3>we don't even really know if he is like deeply

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<v Speaker 3>ingrained in Sith lore, or if he has a Sith master,

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<v Speaker 3>or if he just knows that at one point that

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<v Speaker 3>is what the Jedi would have called it. User very interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh Ohsha interrupts this little mental showdown between Chimer and

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<v Speaker 3>Soul by sweeping up the latter with those very useful

0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.119
<v Speaker 3>bugs from the last episode people sept it to light.

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<v Speaker 4>People said, why didn't more of those bugs attack the Jedi.

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:19.560
<v Speaker 4>Why were those bugs introduced?

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<v Speaker 3>Well guess what they were foreshadowing bugs, and now those

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 3>bugs are being used to sweep Chimeer up bum. She

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<v Speaker 3>pops her little pip on his back and they're attracted

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<v Speaker 3>to the light and he gets swept up into the

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<v Speaker 3>trees and OSHA's like, who feel like he said some

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<v Speaker 3>quite important stuff there about me.

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:41.040
<v Speaker 4>Not trust shouldn't trust you.

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<v Speaker 3>You've done this stuff to me, And as usual, Soul's like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you the truth when we get on the ship,

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:48.959
<v Speaker 3>which I have to say at this point, this man

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<v Speaker 3>has delayed the truth so much that I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>he's definitely hiding something. As much as I was originally

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.359
<v Speaker 3>a soul apologist, I am now on the side of

0:25:57.480 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Soul being extremely suss.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, guess what.

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:02.760
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna have to talk about it a lot later anyway,

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:04.280
<v Speaker 3>because May stun Soul.

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 4>And tries to celebrate this reunion that she's been fighting for.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, as far as we can tell, the reason made

0:26:12.240 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 3>it all of this, why she wanted to kill the

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<v Speaker 3>Jedi is because she thought her sister had died.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, May, maybe she.

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<v Speaker 3>Was gonna you know, there's been some theories that she

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<v Speaker 3>was maybe gonna try and do a deal that once

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<v Speaker 3>she killed the Jedi, they could try and bring.

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<v Speaker 4>Back her sister or some kind of dark Side magic.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know what, she didn't have to do any

0:26:32.160 --> 0:26:36.120
<v Speaker 3>of that because OSHA's alive, and Osha should be happy

0:26:36.119 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 3>about this too. No, still Jedi pilled or as May

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<v Speaker 3>puts it, they brainwashed you. Interesting, we will come back

0:26:43.040 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 3>to that, and as Basil appears, foreshadowing the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>he will probably be the one to solve the episode's

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<v Speaker 3>final gambit that they set up, May and Osha have

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<v Speaker 3>a fight. May wins, May takes OSHA's clothes, gives herself

0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 3>an impressive lightsaber haircut.

0:26:58.560 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 1>Really good, really good. She's just very clean, no burnt ends.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was impressed, and also as well, like that seems

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:11.480
<v Speaker 3>like so dangerous and just reckless, like you could have

0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:13.159
<v Speaker 3>chopped your whole head off with that, but you know what,

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 3>gave yourself a great haircut and tricked Saul into taking

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<v Speaker 3>her back to.

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.399
<v Speaker 1>The ship with so you don't smell the brunt hair.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm saying, like there must have been something with the

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:24.320
<v Speaker 4>old parent traps switch through.

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<v Speaker 3>On your e again, millennial millennial TV writers really loved

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<v Speaker 3>that movie.

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<v Speaker 4>It's happening. We leave the episode with solemn may Or,

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 4>as our discord is calling her focha, which I.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it's good headed onto the Jedi ship alone and

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<v Speaker 3>Kaimer did not get chomped by those bugs. He returns

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 3>back and very sexily covers up Ocea with a little

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 3>blanket while staying and.

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<v Speaker 4>We see that sister. Yeah, we sat. We see Ocean's tattoo, confirming.

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<v Speaker 3>That May did take her clothes and take her body.

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.719
<v Speaker 3>Anna and Kimer kind of states with such incredible beings,

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.639
<v Speaker 3>he's saying some saucy it's like putting her on very

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<v Speaker 3>tenderly for someone who's supposedly so evil. Maybe he thinks

0:28:11.920 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 3>he's found his new acolyte to study underneath him. So

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 3>big questions at the end of this episode. Now she's

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 3>finally been rejected by her sister, Will May kill Soul

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 3>because he is the last Jedi she needs to kill.

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 3>Will Soul confessed to May thinking she's Osher. Does Soul

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<v Speaker 3>already know he has the wrong twinning custody? He has

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 3>been kind of eager to get May, so maybe he's

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<v Speaker 3>okay with this Will Will Soul saw his sweaty wig

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<v Speaker 3>out because he was absolutely unraveling by the end of

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 3>the episode.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Jason, how did this episode land with you?

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I was amazed? I thought this was a great episode.

0:28:48.440 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Who doesn't want to light super Fight? I was again

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 1>shocked at the inability of the Jedis to grapple with Kaimer.

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I was I found myself wondering if Kimeer hasn't been

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.600
<v Speaker 1>driving made to the dark side all along, you know,

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 1>because I think those really swift bursts of anger that

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:19.040
<v Speaker 1>we saw in the Bottle episode, I do wonder if,

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<v Speaker 1>like Palpatine, he hasn't been nurturing this kind of angry

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:28.560
<v Speaker 1>side in May for a long time, since they were kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to see what the confrontation is going

0:29:34.280 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to be back on Coruscant. I am fully expecting after

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 1>the bad guys are defeated or whatever the outcome is

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.040
<v Speaker 1>for Saul to be like for Ocean to say, Okay,

0:29:47.400 --> 0:29:49.040
<v Speaker 1>so what you know, what are you talking about? Like

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 1>what happened? Like what are you referring to? And then

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>saw the go I'll tell you in a second to

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>go to the bathroom. Let me just clean up and

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 1>just find some other reason and to not talk about

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>it right now. But yeah, I think that I think

0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:09.000
<v Speaker 1>that crime here has been brainwashing people. I think there's

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 1>a possibility that Saul actually doesn't quite remember what happened

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:17.320
<v Speaker 1>because either the Jedi or Chymeer were messing with his memory.

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it does seem like that, like he has some

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 3>kind of block on that. I'm very interested. I think

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 3>I had been of the mindset, though it would have

0:30:26.080 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 3>been cheeky and probably have annoyed people. I was of

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 3>the mindset that this episode might not continue what we

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:33.959
<v Speaker 3>saw last episode at all, and would instead give us

0:30:34.000 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 3>this kind of ration and perspective of what happened on

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Brendock from a different point of view, which of course

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:41.480
<v Speaker 3>is one of.

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<v Speaker 4>Star Wars's favorite things to do. I think that might

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 4>be what our episode six is now.

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 3>I think we might get to see it from Kimer's

0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 3>point of view, from May's point of view. When May

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 3>said the Jedi of brainwashed you, they turned you against me,

0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:59.640
<v Speaker 3>I was immediately kind of taken back, And we were

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 3>talking this in the discord last night when we were

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<v Speaker 3>watching the episode, but a lot of people were kind

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.400
<v Speaker 3>of saying, well, why is May so evil? Like why

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 3>did they write this little kid to be like, I'm

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 3>gonna kill you I'm and then immediately sets fire to

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 3>the house. Like that seems a bit on the nose.

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 3>That seems like it didn't really happen, or that's not natural.

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 3>And I do wonder if perhaps the Jedi implanted that

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 3>memory in OSHA's head and actually it was much more complex,

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 3>or that didn't really happen at all, and they just

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 3>wanted to take Osha because she was so powerful. And

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm interested to see so I think we could

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 3>see that next episode. I'm excited to see more. I

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:42.600
<v Speaker 3>actually am so impressed by how they made man Manny

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Jacinto did a performance here that is so charming and

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 3>weird and good and kind of iconic that I don't

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 3>even think it matters that the Kime review wasn't a surprise,

0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Like the fact that they still managed to make it

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 3>cool is I think really impressive.

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. There's a really fun piece on this episode in

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<v Speaker 1>Entertainment Weekly in which a showrunner, Lindsay heedlind says that

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't going for like a big shocking surprise. They

0:32:13.280 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>were obviously enough Easter eggs, yeah, and breadcrumbs sprinkled in

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.840
<v Speaker 1>there to do it, but she just wanted to have

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 1>an impact beyond like the mystery. They weren't going for

0:32:23.440 --> 0:32:25.800
<v Speaker 1>that type of bigness, and it did. They really succeeded.

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 1>They really succeeded in there is There's some great quotes

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.520
<v Speaker 1>from Manny Sinto in there, talking about how he's just

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<v Speaker 1>excited because he hasn't been able to talk about what

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>his role, yeah is for the last two years, and

0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:39.760
<v Speaker 1>now he's finally able to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I yeah, there's been some there's been some really funny.

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:44.959
<v Speaker 3>That was a clip of an interview he did at

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 3>the junkt where he says, like, I just really love

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 3>getting to be like the man behind the mosque, and

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 3>then he changes it and he's like, you know, like

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Anakin Skywalker, like that would be my dream role. Because

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:57.520
<v Speaker 3>he did, and he saves it really well, but you

0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 3>can tell.

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.120
<v Speaker 4>In that moment he kind of like slipped out of it.

0:33:01.280 --> 0:33:03.440
<v Speaker 4>So it's fun to see that. But I mean, wow,

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 4>what a performance. I'm very excited for him. This is

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 4>a totally cool, new kind of realm for him, and

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 4>he smashed it quickly.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 3>Any predictions, I do predict that the Witches were wiped

0:33:16.120 --> 0:33:16.840
<v Speaker 3>out by the Jedi.

0:33:17.360 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 4>I do I predict that that was a rogue.

0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 3>Splinter group of Jedi and they were not approved by

0:33:23.480 --> 0:33:26.760
<v Speaker 3>the higher Jedi powers. I think Vnestra is actually going

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 3>to be I think next week she's going to be detective,

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 3>working to find out what happened, though I will say

0:33:34.160 --> 0:33:36.120
<v Speaker 3>she also could be the person who knows and is

0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 3>trying to cover it up, because she did say to Saul,

0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>why didn't you tell me then that there was a

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:43.680
<v Speaker 3>chance this poor girl could have survived about May, which

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 3>makes me think that the Jedi were in on it.

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 4>I think we're going to get another perspective from Brendoc.

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to see whatever skeped the idea of Jedi's

0:33:56.160 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 3>mind wiping people, putting things into people's heads. I'm definitely

0:34:01.120 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 3>excited to see that. I'm also interested to see who

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:09.279
<v Speaker 3>trained Kimer, because I think that's gonna be Was it

0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 3>a Jedi, was it a Sith. Also, he said he

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 3>wants an acolyte to study with. I was kind of

0:34:14.239 --> 0:34:16.000
<v Speaker 3>talking about this before we turn the mics on, but

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 3>that to me sounds like he wants an acolyte because

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 3>he wants to kill his master in.

0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 4>The sick Rule of two kind of way.

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, we don't have that many episodes to keep exploring,

0:34:25.760 --> 0:34:29.160
<v Speaker 3>but I'm hoping that the later episodes are longer because

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 3>I do want to spend more time in this world

0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.319
<v Speaker 3>and I am really enjoying the story they're telling.

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna find out that all of the

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Jedi kil Knaka, you know, the late kil Knaka Rip's Torbin.

0:34:43.680 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that they all were had their memories messed

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 1>with in some former fashion. I think the way that

0:34:51.360 --> 0:34:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Kimer says, you don't remember me is I think it's

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 1>a loaded question. I think he knows that they don't

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 1>remember him. I think he's trying to say, don't you

0:35:02.640 --> 0:35:04.360
<v Speaker 1>think they've been messing with your mind?

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:04.839
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 3>Because they did say yeah, And he says to him,

0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:12.040
<v Speaker 3>I sent something familiar, So there's something there, but we

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 3>just don't know what it is.

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think that they were to your point, I

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.840
<v Speaker 1>think they were sent to wipe out like stray Force users.

0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 3>M M.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe didn't comport with the way the Jedi see the

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Force should be wielded. And I think in order to

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>protect them from what they have to do, they then

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>have those memories.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, because a Jedi is not supposed to kill.

0:35:40.160 --> 0:35:41.600
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's very good.

0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Almost like a little Jedi suicide squad that they sent

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 3>out whose mind is messed with. Wow, that's really good.

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm excited to potentially see that outcome.

0:35:51.200 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Up next, we welcome our elden Ring. Corresponded Eric, we're back.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back in elden Ring. Shadow of the Urd Tree,

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<v Speaker 1>The long awaited elden Ring DLC is here for all you.

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<v Speaker 1>Sado massacrests you can't get enough of dying eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>dives in a row.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I include.

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<v Speaker 1>Myself in that statement, and here it to walk us

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 1>through it and talk about their experiences in the DLC

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<v Speaker 1>so far as.

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<v Speaker 5>Super producer Aaron, Hello, I'm excited to join you guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:44.759
<v Speaker 3>It's so nice to have you here with your voice,

0:36:44.760 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 3>because you're always here with us, but it's nice to

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 3>be able to chat to you about elden Ring.

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 1>Huge excitement for this DLC. Several New York Times pieces

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:59.240
<v Speaker 1>dropped you know coming up to it. One review, another

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:03.760
<v Speaker 1>a review of like the hype and the influencer fueled hype,

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:08.959
<v Speaker 1>including Kay Senat's like recent multi week run through the game?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you finding it?

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<v Speaker 5>Well? To set it straight, I loved the first game,

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<v Speaker 5>so I'm coming from a biased player, and I'm loving

0:37:20.520 --> 0:37:23.440
<v Speaker 5>this potentially even more than I love the first one.

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 5>It hits everything that I loved about the first one

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<v Speaker 5>and just improves upon it. So there are I've had

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<v Speaker 5>a number of like, I have no idea how far

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<v Speaker 5>into it I am. I think one of the great

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 5>things with Drumsoft games, like you don't. It's not like

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.799
<v Speaker 5>collect the seven crystals. Okay, I have six of them.

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 5>I know I'm almost done. It's just like maybe ring

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:49.080
<v Speaker 5>two bells and then something is going to happen further on,

0:37:50.600 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 5>so you never know. I did this morning face off

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:58.320
<v Speaker 5>against the boss Mesmer, who is like in all the

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:03.719
<v Speaker 5>promo material, and uh By, my partner came into the

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 5>room and was watching me.

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:05.840
<v Speaker 4>I was like, you watch this.

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm going I'm about to face this boss and I

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:12.920
<v Speaker 5>walk in. We watched the cinematic. It's incredible. He absolutely

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:17.719
<v Speaker 5>rocks my shit in like thirty seconds and she goes.

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 1>One hit, two hit.

0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 5>It was like two combos and she she just goes,

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 5>he's better than you and left the room. I'm like,

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 5>that's where I am right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, that's good because as someone who I have

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.719
<v Speaker 3>yet to get into the Eldent Tree life, I have

0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:35.759
<v Speaker 3>too many video games in my life already, and I

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 3>know this one will consume me. Something I've been seeing is,

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:41.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, the bosses are even harder. I saw that

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 3>people are like complaining that too hard, which is so

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 3>fucking funny to me because also like dude, that's just

0:38:48.640 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 3>every game. That's the point of every game.

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<v Speaker 4>The bosses are hard.

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:52.960
<v Speaker 3>You have to fight up but okay, Eric, on like

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:57.359
<v Speaker 3>a scale of like one to ten, like how hard

0:38:57.520 --> 0:38:59.759
<v Speaker 3>is it to how many times are you having to

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:00.479
<v Speaker 3>fight a boss?

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 4>Do you think before you before you beat them?

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:07.359
<v Speaker 5>So I've had some that in the DEALC so far,

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 5>some that I've beat within two or three times. I

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:10.799
<v Speaker 5>don't think.

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 4>There have been a couple of.

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 5>Smaller like world bosses that are like like roaming the

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:21.120
<v Speaker 5>environment that I've beat the first try. Mesmer, for instance,

0:39:21.160 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 5>I think I've faced six or seven times and I

0:39:23.600 --> 0:39:26.279
<v Speaker 5>never did more than a third of his life, so like,

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean, this will be and I've seen and then

0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 5>I look online and people are like, Mesmer was so easy,

0:39:31.680 --> 0:39:34.640
<v Speaker 5>Like this other one that I beat first try was

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 5>so much harder, and so I don't know. That's one

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:39.319
<v Speaker 5>of the things that I think is so great about

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:43.520
<v Speaker 5>this game is that the bosses are incredibly difficult, but

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:47.560
<v Speaker 5>you kind of can have a different experience with them

0:39:47.600 --> 0:39:51.680
<v Speaker 5>than anyone else. And other than maybe one or two

0:39:51.760 --> 0:39:54.880
<v Speaker 5>in the base game, you or and I haven't finished

0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:56.839
<v Speaker 5>the DEALC, so there might be more, but you can

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.880
<v Speaker 5>kind of beat anything with any strategy. You don't have

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 5>the field like you're locked into one move set or

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 5>one weapon, So I really enjoy that you can like

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 5>figure them out, you can like magic them out, you

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:14.080
<v Speaker 5>can dodge, you can try and block encounter and stuff,

0:40:14.080 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 5>and you can still beat the bosses thus far. Yes, yeah,

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 5>and like I have. So one of the main things

0:40:22.719 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 5>with the DLC is you have to have beaten two

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 5>relatively late game bosses in the main game before you

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:31.719
<v Speaker 5>can actually access it. Which ones you have to beat

0:40:31.840 --> 0:40:37.240
<v Speaker 5>Mogue the Lord of Blood and Radon who Radon has gotta.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason Summer is So don't expect the hair I'm talking

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:45.880
<v Speaker 3>about anything else, Baby, it's happening.

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:50.520
<v Speaker 5>And so, like, you can go in to the DLC

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<v Speaker 5>with a fairly leveled up character already because you had

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 5>to have beat taken out these two late game bosses,

0:40:57.520 --> 0:41:00.359
<v Speaker 5>and so you probably already have some play style set

0:41:00.440 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 5>up for that character, whether you're like I am a

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:04.520
<v Speaker 5>strength user and I'm using a big sword or a

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:07.560
<v Speaker 5>big huge axe, or like I'm a dex user and

0:41:07.640 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 5>so I have really quick weapons, and so you can

0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 5>still probably get away with whatever your plan was originally

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:17.360
<v Speaker 5>in the DLC, I've only done it with one character

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:21.080
<v Speaker 5>so far, so I've only been playing on a strength build,

0:41:21.120 --> 0:41:23.840
<v Speaker 5>which is typically not my usual play style, but I

0:41:24.120 --> 0:41:25.959
<v Speaker 5>have just enjoyed it a lot. I found a weapon

0:41:26.040 --> 0:41:27.840
<v Speaker 5>right away that was perfect for me, and I just

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 5>have been going with that.

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:30.120
<v Speaker 4>I love that also.

0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So another thing that I've I read that I

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 3>thought was so incredible and I was prepping for this

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 3>episode is like people who reviewed the DLC, they were

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.920
<v Speaker 3>saying their review game plays were like thirty or forty

0:41:43.040 --> 0:41:46.680
<v Speaker 3>hours long. So this is an unbelievable amount of content,

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:51.080
<v Speaker 3>like essentially for some games, an entirely new game. So

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:53.720
<v Speaker 3>could you talk a little bit about how expansive it feels,

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 3>and like whether that kind of comes across in what

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:56.640
<v Speaker 3>you've played.

0:41:56.440 --> 0:42:00.360
<v Speaker 5>So far so early on in interviews, Miyazaki, the creator

0:42:00.440 --> 0:42:02.320
<v Speaker 5>of like the head of from Soft. He's been in

0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 5>charge of Dark Souls one and three and Bloodborne and

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 5>elden Ring. He said that the map was about the

0:42:09.840 --> 0:42:12.480
<v Speaker 5>same size as Limb Grave, which is the very first

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 5>area you enter in the main day. Yeah, pretty big,

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 5>but not huge. I think everyone pretty much the consensus

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 5>online is that it is much larger than that, and

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 5>it's not just one floor. Basically, it's like a vertical world,

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 5>which means it's big. And I mean, you know, I

0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:37.160
<v Speaker 5>am slow at these games. Some people I know like

0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:41.080
<v Speaker 5>can just roll through it. I'm not that fast. It's

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 5>given me a lot of time so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's close with this. Give us your top three tips

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 1>for the new players who are looking to take on

0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 1>elden Ring and then eventually the elden Ring Shadow of

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the Old Tree DLC.

0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.839
<v Speaker 5>So my first one is to play online. You can

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.160
<v Speaker 5>play either connected on line or not. And the great

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 5>thing about playing online is you see messages that other

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:06.800
<v Speaker 5>players have left. Some of them are very helpful and

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 5>some of them are not helpful. And you have a

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:12.040
<v Speaker 5>limited vocablist you can use, so you can't write anything

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:14.520
<v Speaker 5>you want. But there's a lot of funny things written.

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.680
<v Speaker 5>But the best thing that I think is new in

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 5>elden Ring because it wasn't. It wasn't in Dark Souls

0:43:19.920 --> 0:43:22.160
<v Speaker 5>as far as I remember. But so you can rate

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 5>other people's messages and you rate them good or bad,

0:43:26.200 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 5>but no one gets to see how the voting has

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 5>gone on them except for the person who wrote it.

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 5>But you see how many ratings there are, so if

0:43:35.520 --> 0:43:38.880
<v Speaker 5>something's really popular, that's usually a good sign. But the

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:41.800
<v Speaker 5>best thing is if you write a message and someone

0:43:42.040 --> 0:43:46.800
<v Speaker 5>rates it, you get a heal, like just instantaneously, you

0:43:46.880 --> 0:43:47.400
<v Speaker 5>get healed.

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 1>So that's awesome.

0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:53.200
<v Speaker 5>Yes, And I've had multiple times when I've been fighting

0:43:53.280 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 5>a boss, I'm not doing well, I'm going to die,

0:43:56.800 --> 0:44:00.760
<v Speaker 5>someone raids my message and I'm healed and I survive

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 5>like the next hit and I beat the bos.

0:44:02.360 --> 0:44:05.359
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I love that. That is like so cool.

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:06.960
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know that was a part of it all.

0:44:07.040 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 3>I've only really heard of stuff like that and like

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:12.280
<v Speaker 3>death stranding because I know you could like build bridges.

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 4>And leave stuff for like other players. Well yeah, yeah,

0:44:14.200 --> 0:44:14.839
<v Speaker 4>it's really cool.

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 5>So that's my first thing is to play online, and

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:23.359
<v Speaker 5>my second would be to take advantage of the open world.

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 5>So unlike every other Soul is Born, which is a

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 5>little more on rails, this one, you could find a

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.960
<v Speaker 5>boss and be like I'm not ready, I'm gonna go

0:44:31.040 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 5>do stuff, and you go do other stuff. You can

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 5>mess around all you want in whatever world you're in

0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 5>and then come back to the boss later and that

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 5>lets you. Especially that first couple bosses. If you're new

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:48.480
<v Speaker 5>to Souls Born games, they're gonna be tough and allowing

0:44:48.520 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 5>yourself to go level up and like just get used

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 5>to your weapon and like how to dodge and fight,

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 5>I think is one hundred percent like way to do it.

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:00.600
<v Speaker 3>Jason was saying, like, basically just grinding out against like

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.279
<v Speaker 3>low level MPCs who are who are foes and not

0:45:03.400 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 3>even bosses is like a really good way to kind.

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 5>Of up your Yeah, and then my third one is

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:14.719
<v Speaker 5>really get excited for that first time. So one of

0:45:14.800 --> 0:45:17.800
<v Speaker 5>the gimmicks of souls borns is you carry your currency,

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 5>your experience all as one, and when you die, you

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:23.840
<v Speaker 5>drop all of it, kind of like sonic when you

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:25.160
<v Speaker 5>drop your card.

0:45:26.680 --> 0:45:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Yes, this is extremely extremely stressful.

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:32.840
<v Speaker 5>Everything it stays in the spot where you died, so

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 5>you can go pick it up. However, if you die again,

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:39.319
<v Speaker 5>you lose everything that dropped, so you.

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Pick it up before you die.

0:45:40.600 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 4>Before you pick it up.

0:45:41.600 --> 0:45:45.320
<v Speaker 5>Yes, so my advice is look forward and be excited

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 5>for the first time. That happens when you die a

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.760
<v Speaker 5>second time without saving all your experience, because it sucks,

0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 5>and then you're just like all right, well, I got

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:55.800
<v Speaker 5>nothing to lose. Now, so we're just like, God, we

0:45:56.000 --> 0:45:59.080
<v Speaker 5>lost forty thousand souls, you know whatever, who cares?

0:45:59.239 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Just move on.

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 5>So that would be my third piece is embrace the

0:46:03.160 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 5>difficulty and how much it's going to punish you, and

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:10.280
<v Speaker 5>just it's once you do that and you're like okay

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 5>with the fact that you're gonna have a hard time,

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 5>it's so fun.

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:15.000
<v Speaker 4>It's love that.

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:18.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well Erin, we can't wait to have you back

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:22.040
<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, I can't wait to get into it.

0:46:22.440 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 4>It's just, oh, I'm going to have.

0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 1>So much getting my ass kick, but I'm ready to

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:31.000
<v Speaker 1>get back into the world. Thank you so much.

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:31.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, thank you.

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:32.479
<v Speaker 4>I'm great.

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 5>They are ed. Yeah, I'm excited Jason to hear some

0:46:34.680 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 5>more stories about you starting it up. There's there's a

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 5>character in the beginning that is a nice little reference

0:46:41.680 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 5>to topics we cover.

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:47.799
<v Speaker 4>Oh excited, I'm excited.

0:46:51.320 --> 0:46:53.719
<v Speaker 1>We like to end the show with a variety of

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:57.400
<v Speaker 1>fast moving segments. Today it's Who's Who. We're going to

0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:01.760
<v Speaker 1>be talking about our favorite jaw drop moment in gaming?

0:47:02.040 --> 0:47:03.959
<v Speaker 1>Is what's your favorite jar dropping moment in gaming?

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, Well, I fear that we may have

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 3>the same one, but I think about it all the time.

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 4>I still talk about it.

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 3>This is a game that is, you know, almost twenty

0:47:18.040 --> 0:47:19.800
<v Speaker 3>years old at this point if you look at the

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:24.800
<v Speaker 3>original release date in Japan, and for me, it is

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 3>still Shadow of the Colossus great. I think that this

0:47:30.520 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 3>game is one of the first games I really remember

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 3>being impacted by the narrative.

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 4>I was a big platform gamer as a kid.

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:40.279
<v Speaker 3>That was really my favorite way to play games, so

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:45.920
<v Speaker 3>I often wasn't playing deeply narratively heavy games. But this

0:47:46.200 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 3>game where you realize after you've you know, played as

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 3>Wonder and you're defeating the colossuses and you're doing the

0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:56.440
<v Speaker 3>thing that you're supposed to do when you're a hero

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:59.080
<v Speaker 3>in a game which is killed the monsters, and then

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 3>you realize that actually you are the villain of the game,

0:48:02.960 --> 0:48:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and the monsters need to survive, and actually the colossuses

0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:08.440
<v Speaker 3>are like part and parcel with nature, and you have

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:13.239
<v Speaker 3>been doing this terrible thing. I think is still just

0:48:13.680 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 3>one of the best choices in gaming ever and I

0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:19.280
<v Speaker 3>think still one of the most influential games.

0:48:19.440 --> 0:48:20.960
<v Speaker 5>Like to completely agree.

0:48:20.800 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 3>To reveal that moment, and to have a game where

0:48:23.160 --> 0:48:28.200
<v Speaker 3>you're essentially playing as an unreliable narrator who makes the

0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 3>discovery as the game goes along.

0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 4>I think is still up there with one of the

0:48:32.080 --> 0:48:33.319
<v Speaker 4>best shocks of all time.

0:48:34.800 --> 0:48:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I had a couple of things that immediately came to mind.

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 1>One is finding out Samus is a woman in the yeah,

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 1>which was a big deal that had been spoiled for

0:48:45.680 --> 0:48:47.279
<v Speaker 1>me by other kids, but it was a big one.

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:51.439
<v Speaker 1>There is the last, the twist in the first Last

0:48:51.480 --> 0:48:55.120
<v Speaker 1>of Us game who where you know you just go

0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:56.960
<v Speaker 1>on a killing spree as Joel.

0:48:57.440 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 4>But I think I'm gonna go.

0:49:00.400 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 1>With the original BioShock game, which is the problematic narrative

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:10.760
<v Speaker 1>that made you really think about some really juicy moral

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:14.440
<v Speaker 1>choices throughout the game. But spoiler for those of you

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:18.239
<v Speaker 1>who haven't played the first a BioShock game. But you

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:22.759
<v Speaker 1>get to the end and you realize that you have

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:28.040
<v Speaker 1>been under the hypnotically controlled suggestion of the bad guy,

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<v Speaker 1>the true villain Frank Fontaine, who has been using this

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<v Speaker 1>post hypnotic suggestion of the of the phrase would you

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<v Speaker 1>kindly in order to make you do things against find

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<v Speaker 1>out that you actually don't did not have any free

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<v Speaker 1>will for they of this game, And it's a it

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<v Speaker 1>was I remember at the time it being pretty mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 4>I just was like, wait, what.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my uh right now? That is my favorite jaw

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<v Speaker 1>dropping moment in gaming.

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<v Speaker 4>A great pics.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up in a mini episode of X ray Vision

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<v Speaker 1>which drops tomorrow. Capsule to revisit the Lisa and al

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<v Speaker 1>gaib and Dune Part two and next year of course

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<v Speaker 1>use the one.

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<v Speaker 5>Dude Bob Old.

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<v Speaker 4>Bob watch what was it? Don't don't sat.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch tomorrow and next week more Housing the Dragon, more accolade.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this episode for listening. X ray Vision

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<v Speaker 1>is hosted by Jason Concepcion and Rosie Knight and is

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<v Speaker 1>a production of iHeart Podcasts. Our executive producers are Joelle

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and Aaron Kaufman. Our supervising producer is a booze Afar.

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<v Speaker 1>Our producers are Carmen Laurent and Mia Taylor. Our theme

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<v Speaker 1>song is by Brian and Basquez.

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<v Speaker 4>Special thanks to Soul Rubin and Chris Lord. Kenny Goodman

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<v Speaker 4>and Heidi are Discord moderator