1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network. 2 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: I am Chad Mowman. I will be joined in a 3 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: moment by my bff, my companion, my compadre, the man 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 1: who I missed so much while I was out this week. 5 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: Later in the show that his name is Simon Hunter. 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Later in the show. Later in the show, We're gonna 7 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: have And when I say later, I mean like in 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: the next Action Network NBA analysts, my co hosts and 9 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: co partners on heat Check, the n NBA, the NBA 10 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: pregame betting show that we do twice a week on 11 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: Action Network. Uh, Matt Moore, justin fan. There's a lot 12 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: of NBA talk, and I'm loving the NBA playoffs. As 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: we all know right now, the Sun's it's Tuesday afternoon. 14 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: The Sun's are up three to the Milwaukee Bucks are 15 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: up to one, and they are playing tonight. So many 16 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: of you will be listening to this after the game 17 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: is played, which is totally fine. Simon, I missed you 18 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: when I was a vacation. Did you did you? I did? Yeah, 19 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: I missed you too, man. And we have to dive 20 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: right into it because a little old friend hit me 21 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: up this week an X and she'd been listening to 22 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: our show, Chad while you were on break and I 23 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: had to put out some fires. Is it the X 24 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: that broke your heart? The ex who has decided to 25 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: move on with her life, and the X who is 26 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: now thinking why is Simon on a podcast talking about 27 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: our life, our love life and going out with other women? 28 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: All is true, yes, and she's not doing a good 29 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: job moving on. But she said I came off sounding 30 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: a little shallow when I described her, and that she's 31 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: in a bitter place. I think I was just a 32 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: little upset. I told her she's a strong, beautiful woman, 33 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: she's smart, and you know, I hope what's best for 34 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: But on this show, you know we're gonna talk Chad, 35 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: and you're gonna ask me about my life. I'm gonna 36 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: tell you what's going on. So yeah, it was. It 37 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,399 Speaker 1: was a little tough for her. But I just want 38 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: to say to my good friend that you know she lives. 39 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,239 Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to put her name out there, 40 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: but she keeps hitting me up, and uh, I will 41 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: not talk about her or my relationship with her anymore. 42 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: I promised. Now that she's listening to this is their 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: potential for reconciliation. Oh, Chad, you know what went on. 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 1: But no, I don't think it's gonna go past what 45 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: happened a couple of days ago. Old friends who are 46 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: lover has become friends again. I think we're both just 47 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: gonna try to move forward. But I don't know, dude. 48 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: I can't get rid of her and she can't go 49 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: to me. It's love is a mysterious thing. No one 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: gets it in due time. In due time, simon. But 51 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you off so easier, Chad. What 52 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: is my name again? I'm a hunter? Is there a 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: more British name? He saw im in? Right? And now 54 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here on your podcast when England is taken 55 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: on Germany? Right? This is World War two chat and 56 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: you have me on your podcast during the biggest moment 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: in England history to talk about what basketball? I'm gonna 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: talk basketball right now? What does the British lad know 59 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: about basketball? England's up one nothing over Germany? Right now? Englands' 60 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: one nothing over Germany? Right now? You want to do 61 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: something else, that's cool. I had a meeting this morning. 62 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: It was with an accountant. It was someone who I hadn't. 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: I had never really met before. At the end of it, 64 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: he asked if there were going to be crypto investments 65 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: in my portfolio, and I said, yeah, I have some 66 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: right now, and he goes, what about the future? I go, 67 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. He goes, well, I know what the 68 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: Action Network is, and you know, I know that you 69 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: guys talk a lot about crypto, So I was just curious. 70 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: And so I think it's appropriate that we have fan 71 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: on Justin Fan and you and Matt Moore because this 72 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: is a crypto punk love and crew, and I just 73 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: thought that was interesting that we had a fan out 74 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: there who I did not know who because we were 75 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: meeting any knew of the Action Network. He was asking 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: me about my investment in crypto? Are you buying the 77 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: dip Chad? I can't decide, what do you think? Should 78 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: I wait a little wait a little longer until we 79 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: see what happens here because it's someone that has a 80 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: lot of money in crypto. I'm with people. I'm a 81 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: little scared about the U. S. Government banning it. So 82 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: I think that's what the fear is right now. People 83 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: are selling off the mass portions because it's a little 84 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: scary right now, all these different countries are being in it, 85 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 1: and some countries are trying to turn into their currency. 86 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: So my advice to WO b T is keep waiting. 87 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: What does fans say? Fans of Big Crypto Guide is 88 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: fan have thoughts on crypto right now? Justin Fan before 89 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: we get to the NBA, Well, I'm all in. I 90 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 1: bought the DIP. I bought a bunch of a bunch 91 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: of you know, bitcoin at thirty K when thirty one K, 92 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: and I bought a bunch of ethereum. So I'm buying apes, 93 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm buying crypto punks. I'm buying all these to use too, 94 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: So we're all in. I expected nothing less from Justin Fan. 95 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: I love that about him. All right, let's get to 96 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: the conference finals right now. My first question is let's 97 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: talk about the Sons and the Clippers, because that, to me, 98 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: is this the more interesting matchup. A lot of drama 99 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: in this series for a series that seemed to be 100 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: dominated by the Suns. I'll start with you, Matt Moore. Um, 101 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: you've made predictions. Are you standing by your predictions? Give 102 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: me your take on the series and what do you 103 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 1: think happens next. I like Clippers plus two and a 104 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: half wins that cash last night, plus two and a 105 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: half wins in the series. So as long as they 106 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: got two wins in the series, I was good at 107 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: series winsbur I got that after Game two. I actually 108 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: I like the Sons in Game four, and I like 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: the Clippers in Game five, and I like the Sons 110 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: in Game six. So something to keep in mind here. 111 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: I looked up the data just before we went on 112 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: the spot, and last night, the Clippers in this series 113 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: had the best differential between they're expected affect the field 114 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: goal percentage and they're actual. So what happened was they 115 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: shot the lights up. They just shot the absolute freaking 116 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: lights out. And that's gonna happen sometimes in the series. 117 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna get those kind of breaks, especially with the 118 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: high variance team like the Clippers. The Son's offense is underperformed, 119 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: and I think that's the concern that I think everyone's having. 120 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised the line is as short. It 121 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: actually opened with Sons as a dog last night, which 122 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised at, without zoobots, without Kauai 123 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: Sons of it as a dog last night. That's when 124 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: I grabbed it. Now Sons are minus one. I do 125 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: think that as the series goes on, um and really 126 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: I just think it ends the next game. The Sons 127 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: will have one game where the offense plays do expectation. 128 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: They will figure out a couple of things. There are 129 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: some things they need to do better, but overall, I 130 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: do think the Clippers have given their best effort. I 131 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: thought that was a really gutsy win, but I don't 132 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: think they can get two more. Matt. Matt Moore just 133 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: said one thing. He thinks the offense for the Suns 134 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: can play at expect Oh my god, goal, Harry Kane. 135 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: That's do nothing England. Holy shit, Chad, we've lost Simon Hunter. 136 00:06:57,640 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: Simon might not come back, which is totally fine. I 137 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: can appreciate this. I want him to enjoy his Euros experience. 138 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: Chris Paul has not shot well. Last night's shot okay, 139 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: Devin Booker has not shot well. The offense is not 140 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: for four particularly well. Can you believe this right now? 141 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: England's being Germany? Do nothing? Dude? Holy shot? Let me 142 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: ask you a question before we get to fan. Did 143 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: you bet on this one? Are you fucking kidding me? 144 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: Of course, I've bet on this, but we can lose 145 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: for the next fifty fucking years. Dude. Germany bombed my 146 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: nan in London. She lived in a subway for two years. Dude, 147 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: even though I drive a BMW. We hate Germany. We 148 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: hate Germany. Holy sh it, dude. To nothing in England 149 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: right now, this is revenge for the blitz creaging a 150 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: europe Cup match. Yeah, it only took us a hundred 151 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: years to get back the them, but oh my god, 152 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: this is crazy right now. To nothing. Did you bet 153 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: on England to win this game? Or did you bet 154 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: on them to win the Euros? Win the game in 155 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: the Euros? But like, it's not like I have a 156 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: lot of money, dude, it's fucking pride. I mean, this 157 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: is like like I can't believe what's happening. And I 158 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: mean I'm English, dude, England everyone thinks the worst thing 159 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: is gonna happen because it rains every day in England. 160 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: It's just built into our personalities. I can't even imagine 161 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: what's happening like that. England might be burned to the 162 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: ground as we speak. People must be going mental over there. 163 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: I can't and imagine speaking of burning to the ground, 164 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: Phoenix is hot fan, What do you think of Phoenix's 165 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: offense right now? And can it get untracked if they 166 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: end up advancing or can they advance if they continue 167 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: to play bad offensively. I think the Sun's offense is 168 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: dumped to fire, and I don't agree with Matt that 169 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: it's easily solvable. Um. You look at just the trends 170 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: of their shot quality over the course of this series. 171 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 1: They the number of wide open threes they're here, they're 172 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: they're getting per game has gone down and down and down. 173 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: It went for fourteen in game once down to six 174 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: um last night. So uh, I mean, I gotta give 175 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: so much credit to Tylo. I mean he's coming out 176 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 1: with this two one to zone that's really throwing the 177 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: Sun's offense for a loop. The Sun's offense has the 178 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: evolved into Chris Paul and Devin Booker is sewing and 179 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: taking tough jumpers, tough fadeaways after one after another right, 180 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: and Tyler has just been ahead of the curve every 181 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: step of the white Literally. I think he coached almost 182 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: a perfect game last night. Um. I mean you know 183 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: he DeAndre Ayden had nine paint touches overall against a 184 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: Clippers team without Vika zoo Botch. That's really incredible. Like 185 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: when I first heard the zoo Botch news, I was like, 186 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: they're done. The Clippers are I mean, the Clippers are done. 187 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: They have no one to guard DeAndre Ayden and they 188 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: somehow managed to limit him, you know, to just nine 189 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: paint touches overall. So, um, yeah, I thought, Um, Tyler 190 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: did a massful job. You know that you want to 191 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: zone hiding DeMarcus Cousin on defense, exploding Devin Booker as 192 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: a point guard, closing up driving lanes, forcing ab del 193 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: Nada and Tory Craig to beat them from the corners. 194 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he did really everything that you could ask 195 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,719 Speaker 1: for him. And um, I'm I'm legitimately concerned about this 196 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: Sun's offense where it's out after the last night. You 197 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: you're saying you think there's good value on the Clippers 198 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: because it is three to two, Like you're like, we're 199 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: talking as if it's you know, it's a it's like 200 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: a close series. But it's one of those where I 201 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: thought that was just a throwaway game. Right. The Clippers 202 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: came out there unbelievable shooting. Everything just went right, and 203 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: everything kind of went wrong a little bit for the Suns. 204 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: Like we saw Chris Paul, He's just not hitting those 205 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: midrang shots right now. So it's one of those where 206 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: it's a little scary the next two games. Are the 207 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: Sons really gonna play that bad again the next two games? Look, 208 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: we have this perception. I think that the Suns are 209 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: the better team. They've been outscoring this series by seventeen points. 210 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: Let's get that straight. The Clippers have been the better 211 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: team overall. I think in this series. Um, we we 212 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: saw that rock fight, Um you know at Dana one 213 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: of the games where the Clippers could easily won that 214 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: game if they had dozens of chances to pull out 215 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: ahead and and come back and get that one. So 216 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 1: they could easily be up in this series too. So 217 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: this perception that there's like some golf between these two teams, 218 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: I think is a is incorrect. All Right, Matt Moore, 219 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: I know you want to say something because you're making 220 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of faces. You're either completely incredulous about 221 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: what fan is saying, or you're having a stroke, which 222 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: is totally cool. If you're having a stroke, just raise 223 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: your hand because I just want to finish talking and 224 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: we'll get you some help. Number one, I completely agree 225 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: with Fan about the way the Clippers are being coached. 226 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: Not only is DeAndre Ayton not getting many touches, but 227 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the game, every single time last 228 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: night the Sun started to make it close, the ball 229 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: would go into eight and in the paint if he 230 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: was lucky enough to get it, and there were swarms 231 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: of people around him, he could not get a clean touch. 232 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: He could not get a clean shot off. It was 233 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: really kind of remarkable how the Sun's when they would 234 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: seem seemingly get momentum, could not close the gap. And 235 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: the Clippers gave them so many chances. They made so 236 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: many bad files, so many opportunities to have four point plays, 237 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: five point place, six point in place. The Sons couldn't 238 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: do it. So I agree with Fan on that number one. 239 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: Um Number two, Matt, why are you so incredulous when 240 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: in reality this is this is great gambler's logic, because 241 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: right now, the difference in this series is a miracle 242 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: lob from Jay Crowder to DeAndre. That's it. Like the 243 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: Sons are up three one going last night, but if 244 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 1: not for that, they might be down three one at 245 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: this point, so or three too, so give give me 246 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: your incredulity defense. So I think a lot of this 247 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: is the Clippers probably should have won that game too, 248 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: but they didn't. They didn't win that game. I actually 249 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: asked the books about the differential and what the series 250 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: price would have been on between after Game two if 251 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: Aiden had not hit that game winner versus when he did. 252 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: It was seven and fifty points of value differential between 253 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: on the series price line between winning Game two and 254 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: losing Game two. So that was a huge swing, Like 255 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: that was a huge lever's position, and that I agree 256 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: with Justin that well, okay, I think that that these 257 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: two teams have been very even. I don't agree with 258 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: Justin that the Clippers have clearly been the better team. 259 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: That's not accurate. The Sons are up three to the 260 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: Clippers have struggled offensively as well in this series. I 261 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: agree with them on the shock quality. A lot of 262 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: this has to do with Okay, so the shock quality 263 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: is in part because they do not get the ball 264 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: to eighton enough, like Justin mentioned, like only nine paint 265 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: touches versus that two one they can figure out the 266 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: two one two zone. They don't, and that's something that 267 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: can be corrected. So this is an interesting question, right, 268 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: and this is what we get to a lot in 269 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: the playoffs, is the the advantage is there, the matchup 270 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: adjustment is there. Are you gonna take it? Mike Budenholzer, 271 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: Mike Bootenholzer, are you gonna take it? Like? That's where 272 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: we're usually asking that question. They can get eight more 273 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: involved in lobs. If zoo Bosch isn't in, they can 274 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: get eight more involved in the role if if if 275 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: zoo Bosh isn't in and he's be limited if he 276 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 1: does play next game, they still have a huge advantage 277 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: with Aidan. The Starage minutes, which were great early in 278 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: the series, have cooled off. But do we really trust 279 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: to Marcus Cousins to play these minutes and not get 280 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: exploited to Even with a two one two, they can 281 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: figure out the two one too pretty easily. That's not 282 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: a problem for them to adjust to. It does take 283 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: teams a little bit of the time. If you look 284 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: back the last couple of seasons, teams plays in the zone, 285 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: they struggle for a little bit, they spend some time 286 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: working on it, and then they figure it out. Paul 287 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: hits more of those midrange jumpers. Booker has had a 288 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: couple of bad games, I think because the defense has 289 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: been good, but he'll hit enough of them. I'm not 290 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: saying the Suns are gonna run away with it, but 291 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: they gotta win one game because of that eight and 292 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: switch over and then we're done here. They're gonna get 293 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: this next game. I feel pretty confident in that fact. Still, 294 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: so a couple of things here. I think the coaching 295 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: discrepancy here is pretty I don't. I don't think Monty 296 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: Williams coached the bad game. I just think TYLERU is exceptional, 297 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: Like he micro manages everything. So you look at the 298 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: start of the second half, the his sons went a 299 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: little bit of a run. The Clippers offense was stagnant. 300 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: I mean, Terrence Man was getting the ball a lot. 301 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: He was driving just with the intent of passing. He 302 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: was a liability offensively. I texted one of my friends, 303 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: I was like, parents man needs to be more aggressive. 304 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: It needs to figure this out where the Clippers offense 305 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: is going to score it all. Literally, a couple of 306 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: minutes into the half, Tyler subs out Terrence Man for 307 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: Nick Patune and that's where that run. That's where that 308 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: big run starts right away. Nick Batune finishes a plus 309 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: eighteen that game. I think Terrence Man was like a 310 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: minus six. Like he's micro adjusting the little things during 311 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: the game, even when the even with the matchup stuff. Right, 312 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: he knows that with the without j Boch, you cannot 313 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: win against the Sun style. You can't win big versus big. 314 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: So what he's what he's doing. He starts the game 315 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: small with Marcus Morris at center. The minute DeAndre Aden 316 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: comes out, he puts Boogie in against Dario Sarge. Right, 317 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Boogie is not not a good player, not a player 318 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: you want to play a ton of minutes, but against 319 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: Dario Sarge, he will eat in that matchup. The minute 320 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: Dario Sarge gets subbed out, DeAndre Ayton comes in, boogiees 321 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: off the floor. The just the little things, minute by minute, 322 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: rotation by rotation, giving them different looks, the two one 323 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: two zone. Going back to Man, Tyler has nailed in 324 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: game in series adjustments. I don't I would love to 325 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: hear your counter on this mat because literally there is 326 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: Tyler want them that game with all these adjustments. I don't. 327 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: I don't hear any defense for that can I go Chad, 328 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: go go for And let me just say one thing 329 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: before you do. I love how Fan is going on 330 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: Tyler is an amazing coach, rant and giving all the 331 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: credit in the world to Taylu. But just notice one thing. 332 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: It was Fan who texted a buddy and said something's 333 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: got to happen with Terrence Man, and then two minutes 334 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: later it was Tyler following justin fans advice and figuring 335 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: out how to get Terrence Man out of the game 336 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: for Nick patuone. So in reality, Justin Fan is the 337 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: best coach of the Clippers. Not no, no rebuttal no 338 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: rebuttal ahead. Yeah, it's a real genius move to take 339 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 1: one of the guys that's been the actual difference maker 340 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: that everyone was saying Terrence Man needs to play more 341 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: in games one through four. Everyone's been saying that him stoppable. 342 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: Congratulations that he made the adjustment from a two who 343 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: should have been playing earlier in the series. By the way, 344 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: we never talked about the fact that Tyler keeps getting 345 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: himself in situations where he's down. Let's also stop at 346 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 1: this loose situation. Lose reputation is entirely built off of 347 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: the Cavs series. That's where all this is coming from. 348 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: And because they made that run in two thousand and 349 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: eight team which was largely about how bad the Eastern 350 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: Conference was. Let's not get carried away with Tyler's a genius. 351 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: Oh but he played Bookie Cousins. He has two bigs 352 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: left justin he only has two centators to rotate. He 353 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: is Marcus Morris, and to Marcus Cousins, that's all he 354 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: can do. Lose a good coach. I'm not I'm not 355 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: saying he's not. You can play book. He did not 356 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: play book against DeAndre eight at all. That's what I'm saying. 357 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: You have two centers, but you can choose selectively. Went 358 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: to play him. It's it's it's completely but the starge 359 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: Cousins min It's got destroyed earlier in the series. Cousins. 360 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: Over the long term, he's gonna have games where he's 361 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: gonna eat. I like that adjustment. I like playing Cousins. 362 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: I liked it earlier in the series. However, you're not 363 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: gonna win every single time out, Like that's not going 364 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: to win every single time out. There's gonna be times 365 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: when Cousins misses the little turnaround jump shots or they 366 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: bring help and he turns the ball over, and then 367 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: he's still gonna get cooked on the defensive end. And 368 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: if they're cooking him on the defensive end, which has 369 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: been the big the big change here, then that entire 370 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: equation changes because you're trading cousins two point attempts which 371 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: aren't probably gonna be very efficient for some three point attempts. 372 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: There's a lot of adjustments that Williams can make. Now, 373 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: I agree, I think that money Williams has shown a 374 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 1: little bit of a struggle, like he's really struggled to 375 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: I think to make the adjustments in this series. I'm 376 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: not disagreeing that Tyler has been a really good coach. 377 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: Like the record speaks for itself in terms of closeout 378 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: games or being closed out backs against the wall. I 379 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: do think, however, we're going a little bit overboard based 380 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: off of a situation in which they were up against 381 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: the wall about to be eliminated, shot eleven percent better 382 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: than they were expected. Like again, close series. I thought 383 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: it would be close. I said there was value on 384 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: the Clippers when spread to start the series. But we're 385 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: going too far the other way now, and like we're whiplashing. 386 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: When the Suns went up, everyone was like, Oh, this 387 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: is done. It's That's all I heard from my action 388 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: colleagues yesterday. Chad was Oh, this is done. It's over 389 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: to get these guys out of here. And I was like, 390 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: I kind of like the Clippers now. I got scared 391 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: when the zoo bosh news came down, but I didn't 392 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: buy back on the other other side because we tend 393 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: to We're just whip lashing back and forth on this. 394 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: Don't get caught up in that. The Suns have been 395 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: a great team throughout these playoffs. They have more adjustments 396 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: in their hold on Matt More. Let fan have have 397 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 1: his say, because I do want to get to the 398 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: to the Bucks Hawks, even though it's a less passionate 399 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: series for sure, but I do want to set up 400 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: some final stuff, so Fan, you can have your final 401 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: say on this. Yeah what, Here's where I'm at. I 402 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: just think this whole notion that Chris Paul and Devin 403 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: Booker are the same player as they were earlier in 404 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs is a mistake. I mean, Chris Paul recovered 405 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: from COVID, Devin Booker broke his nose in three places 406 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: were in that mass struggling with it. I just don't 407 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: think you can have that same level expectation that it's 408 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: just like regression. They're gonna start hitting those shots, and 409 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: those are tough shots to begin with. Um And yeah, 410 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean with the Tyl Lou stuff, I just want 411 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: to touch on that. I've criticized Tyler. He's made mistakes 412 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: in the early games of series. Game in the first 413 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: round started Vica Zubach for two games, while Luca Donte 414 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: torched him, took him two games to realize you gotta 415 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: start small. Start with Marcus Morris the Jazz series, right, 416 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: he played the genre on eighteen the final twenty one 417 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: minutes of Game one, played Terrence Man less than a 418 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: minute in a game too. He's made mistakes, but just 419 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: looking at the body of work, I really think there's 420 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: a method to his madness. I mean, he's throwing stuff 421 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: up against the wall the first two games of the series, 422 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: seeing what sticks, and then making the necessary adjustments from there. 423 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: Like we've seen this three series in a row now 424 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: where he's done that and you can't really argue with 425 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: the results. So I just think looking at this series 426 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: where Chris Paul and Devin Booker are at where Tyler 427 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: has the in series in game coaching edge. Romanti Williams. 428 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: Monty william is playing Abdel Nader, who hasn't played in 429 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: four months for no reason. Abdelmain are playing nine minutes 430 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 1: over Tory Craig like makes no sense, like he's doing 431 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: He's making those little mistakes. Tyler is capitalizing, capitalizing on them. 432 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: Don't let them win this next game because, uh, if 433 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: they win this next game, the Clippers I like them 434 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: to win to win the series. Al Right, So this 435 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: is what's interesting to me. There obviously are odds out 436 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: for each matchup of the finals, the eight possible matchups, 437 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: uh for each how each series will end? Right, Bucks 438 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: to beat the Clippers, Hawks to beat the Sun's Sons 439 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: to beat the Bucks, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. UM, I want 440 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 1: to quickly simon first, how's uh World War three going on? Well, 441 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: I'll just quickly touch on professionals I've talked to a 442 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: lot of them have hit the Clippers last night, A 443 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: couple of hit the Clippers before the games small and 444 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: they've kind of had the same view that Justin has 445 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: hear of that the Sons have just been more fortunate. 446 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: But like they say, like I said a couple of 447 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: shows ago, it's this is like the old story and 448 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: Chris Paul, these are just the like three one has 449 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: just been a dagger. He can never close out these 450 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: matchups three one and I don't know, I just think 451 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: of what's just insane. I I just bet on the Clippers. 452 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: I think they're actually is pretty good value at plus 453 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: four hundred, So I'm with him on that. But yes, 454 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: England won to nothing. Chat I know so not that 455 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: I'm not upset anymore that I did this show. I 456 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: feel like you're my good luck charm because the minute 457 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: I sat down here, we scored two goals. So thank you, 458 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: Chad for everything in life. Well, you know a lot 459 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: of people have said that about me. Hawks, Hawks box 460 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: Tree Young injured. We don't know what's gonna happen. The 461 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: Bucks ran away with that game in the final quarter 462 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: after Tree Young was injured. Uh, it has been a 463 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: relatively even matchup through that. So now it's Bucks up 464 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: to one. Do we think that the Hawks have a 465 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: shot if Trey Young is playing at or less? Have 466 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: you guys ever seen a superstar get hurt from a 467 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: referee before? Like is this. I can't remember ever seen 468 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: anything like that? What is happening? The ref was like 469 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 1: in a normal position to It's just like a freak 470 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: accident in the ref in that in that scenario, right, 471 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: it was just it just happened. It's like, it's really unfortunate. 472 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: Obviously it's super unlucky. But why not off to the 473 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: side though, Like why not? Like he was right behind him? 474 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: I don't get why he didn't have an angle. I 475 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: don't like, why did you line up right behind a 476 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 1: guy who's it was just weird how he lined up 477 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: right behind him with the ball? You said that's normal. 478 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: I don't know, It's just like it looked weird, Like 479 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that before. No, no one's got an 480 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: answer for you, Simon, I got anothering, like it's just 481 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: one of those weird things that occurred. Like, am I understanding? 482 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: Like position? But what do we think about the sears? 483 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: Is it over? Like should we be looking at what 484 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: the prices are for Bucks against the Clippers or Bucks 485 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: against the Suns right now? I mean, you look at 486 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: that fourth quarter, I think that's a preview of things 487 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: to come. Right where the fourth quarter where the Hawks 488 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: were like four points in the last five two. I 489 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 1: think it was Trey Young doesn't have that explosiveness allows 490 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: the Bucks to play that switch a lot more that 491 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: they that they showed in and in that last game, 492 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: and I would feel more optimistic about the hawks chances 493 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: of salvaging this if bogged On Bogdanovich wasn't playing on 494 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: one leg. I mean he's he's cooked, man. I mean 495 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: he he moved a little bit better last game, I 496 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: would say, but still, I mean he cannot create, beat 497 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: guys off the dribble, even shoot uh, you know, clean 498 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: jump jump shots at this point, right, So he's that 499 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: other safety valve, that other outlet. If Trey Young isn't 500 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: quite a hundred percent, he's the guy that needs to 501 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: step up and carry that offense. He's not capable that 502 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: he's still playing that through that shordany so clearly limited. 503 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: So they're running out of options, man. Their wing, their 504 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: wing options are so depleted right now. No, DeAndre Hunter, 505 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: you can't really play Tony Snell or Solomon Hill that 506 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: that much. Um, you know, bogged On playing on one leg, 507 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: It's it's rough, man. So without Trey Young, it's like 508 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: Lou Williams point Kevin Herder um Man, It's it's rough. 509 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: It's rough out here for for Atlanta, just a terrible, 510 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: terrible injury for for Trey So Matt Moore. Right now, 511 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: you can get Bucks to beat the Clippers at plus 512 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: seven hundred. You can get Sons to beat the Bucks 513 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: at plus one. You can get Bucks to beat the 514 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: Suns at plus you can get Clippers to beat the 515 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: Box at plus hundred. Which one of those, to you 516 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: presents the best value? I mean, I think the best 517 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: value probably just because of the number, has to be 518 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: Bucks to beat Clippers, based off of getting that high 519 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: of a number. I like the Suns to win the series, 520 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: but that's the shortest number that you're gonna get. Like, 521 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: I like both of those positions. I already have a 522 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: Bucks to beat Suns ticket from two rounds ago. I 523 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: love this matchup for either one of these teams. Uh. 524 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: If we look back at the Bucks, the two teams 525 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: that they've lost to the last two seasons, the Toronto Raptors, 526 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: with an absolutely elite defense, able to throw a million 527 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: different looks out at them. They built a brilliant defensive 528 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: scheme with Nick Nurse the Miami. He copied a lot 529 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: of that, and through in zone last year with Erik Spoelstra. 530 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: There isn't a defense remaining that's at that level. There 531 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: just isn't. The Sons is the best remaining and we're 532 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: seeing it like if you can't defend at a high level, 533 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: Janice is just going to run through like a free drain. 534 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: He is just a monster right now. Nobody can build 535 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: the wall like the Clippers certainly can't even before the injuries. 536 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: This defense is not very good. Uh, the Sun's defense 537 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: is better, and I have I'm trying to write my 538 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: head around what it's gonna be like when Janice is 539 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: owing versus eighton. But I don't think Aiden has the 540 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: foot speed um Chris Melton Drew Holiday honestly should. They 541 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: both have some of the worst shooting performances versus expectation 542 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: in the playoffs already. Now that's been a consistent trend 543 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: with the Bucks. But I think overall, I think there's 544 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,439 Speaker 1: great value on the Bucks to be either one of 545 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 1: those teams, because I think the Bucks are clearly the 546 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: best remaining team and her best balanced on both sides 547 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: of the ball. So fan separate question, Let's say that 548 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: it ends up being the Sons in the Bucks in 549 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: the finals. Right now, you're getting Jannice said about what 550 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: is that minus one fifteen plus one fifteen to be 551 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: m v P And you're getting looks like Devin Booker 552 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: at plus three hundred. But I can get Chris Middleton 553 00:27:54,600 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: a plus six d I can get DeAndre Aton at 554 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: about plus three? Would I plus three? Why would I 555 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: not start betting those if that's what I think is 556 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: going to happen. If though, if it's gonna be the 557 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: Bucks in the suns, I wouldn't presume that just yet, 558 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: I would be betting the butt side. Um I I probably. 559 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: I mean Middleton makes some sense, but I mean they 560 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: do have a lot of options in Jay Crowder, Michael Bridges, 561 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: Tory Craig to throw out throughout his way. So I 562 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: think if it sets up really well for you, honest 563 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: to be that guy, assuming the Bucks go the finals, 564 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: the value in the market in terms of the Western 565 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: Conference series right now is on the Clippers, even though 566 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're gonna win the series, but I 567 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: just think the value is with them right now. So 568 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be betting really sounds anything at this point. 569 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: I think they're a little bit overpriced. Um So if 570 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: you're looking at m v P futures, I probably just 571 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: look at your honest But I think he's that's a 572 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: that's a good price on him already, So I'm not 573 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: sure there's a ton of value there overall the finals results, 574 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: that's the better price right now. If you like the Clippers, 575 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: like taking them plus seven hundred against the Bucks or 576 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: taking them against um uh, like just the Clippers beating 577 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: the Bucks either way. If if you like the Clippers 578 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: to come back against the Suns, that's where the value 579 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: is not Taking a plus four hundred. Like I said earlier, 580 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: that's definitely a way better number because it kind of 581 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: feels like we know Atlanta is not getting through. The 582 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: funny thing is we talked two weeks ago and Chris 583 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: Max kind of poop pood me when I said, can 584 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: we take Chris Paul to be m v P because 585 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: his value was crazy? It was like, what was the chat? 586 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: Was it fifteen to one or twenty to one? It 587 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,719 Speaker 1: was something crazy like that for him to be finals 588 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: m v P. So it's one of those where I'm 589 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm thinking two about that because I have his son's 590 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: future and I have that bet where it's like, these 591 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: are things that I have to hedge out, but I'm 592 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: just gonna keep wait. I'm gonna waitunill game seven. It 593 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: really starts sweating that because I'm hoping that Moore is 594 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: right and I'm hoping this is over, because if the 595 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: Clippers do win this next game, it is they're definitely 596 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: losing Game seven. The songs I am. I'm heavily laborage 597 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: on the Suns who win the s So I am 598 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: very pro sons at this point. I have eight to 599 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: win the West, five and a half to want to 600 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: win the West, UM a couple others too, So I'm 601 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: hoping the Sun's hold on. But Tyler was giving me 602 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: a sweat. And you know, Matt match with ten and 603 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: two as a coach in games when its team has 604 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: a chance to be eliminated, best in NBA history. I mean, now, 605 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: do doc rivers? Now? Do doc rivers? Doc doc rivers? 606 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: Twenty nine losses with a chance to clinch a playoff series, 607 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 1: most losses by a coach in NBA history. And I 608 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: think it's so funny how this worked out. Where the 609 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: Clippers of old were that team when when things got 610 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: tough when the stakes got high, They're not only folded 611 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: like a chair, they self imploded in spectacular fashion. Right. 612 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: And you know, their coach, Doc Rivers ends up leaving 613 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: going to Philadelphia, and the Clippers are pointing to them 614 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: like that was us, that was us, that was us, 615 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: that we were the team that when things got tough, 616 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: we fold and we collapsed. We blew a big lead, right, 617 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: And I mean, the difference between Doc Rivers and Tylu 618 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: has been you know, just I don't know, it's it's 619 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: it's massive. It's the difference, um between this this this 620 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: year's Clippers team and last year's Clippers team. Honestly, Well, look, 621 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: fan wants the Sons because he's invested. More wants the 622 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: Sons because he's invested, and he hates Tylu. Simon Hunter 623 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: wants the Sons because he's invested. I want the Sons 624 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: because I'm a Chris Paul fan, and I'm a fan 625 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: of people who have long careers and perform at very 626 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: high levels getting an opportunity to play for a championship. 627 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: Uh So, it feels like we're all gonna be Sons 628 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: fans and we're all gonna be on the edge of 629 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: our seats as we see the Suns try to close 630 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: this thing out. Uh later in the week, Justin Fans, 631 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: all this all this, by the way, all this Clippers talk, 632 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: all this tylu um eumping them up. It's just like 633 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: me preempting, like an emotional hedge, just because just to 634 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: prepare myself when I burn my eight to one, when 635 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: I burned my Facon one tickets. Um, it's just me 636 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: preparing myself. This is just nothing makes me happier when 637 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: than when Justin Fan admits to add to emotion and worry. 638 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: That is something that I always look forward to. You 639 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: can get more of this if you watch Heat Check 640 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: on Action Network h Q usually Tuesday and Thursday evenings 641 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: during the playoffs, UM around seven o'clock usually Matt Moore, 642 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: Actual Network Senior analysts Simon Hunter, my friend, my BFF, 643 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: my lonely Hearts. Thank you for being on the podcast. 644 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: This has been the Favorites podcast from the Volume podcast Network. 645 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday with the Thursday Thunderdome. 646 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: Download us from Apple, podcast, from Spotify wherever you get 647 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: your podcasts. Until next time, I love you,