Speaker 1: Are you leaving a you wanna way back home? Either way,
Speaker 1: we want to be there, doesn't matter how much baggage
Speaker 1: you claim and give us time and they turn and
Speaker 1: on and gay, we want to send you off inside.
Speaker 2: Do you wanna welcome you back home?
Speaker 3: Tell us all about it?
Speaker 2: We scared her?
Speaker 3: Was it fine?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: Porn?
Speaker 4: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: Do you need ride?
Speaker 4: With Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: This is Chris Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgaroff.
Speaker 4: I've been saying kill Griff, No you haven't. No, I know.
Speaker 4: We're joined by my friend Shane Moss.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Of course, thanks for coming and being an official guest.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh are there unofficial guests?
Speaker 4: Yes. Every once in a while there's just people roaming
Speaker 4: around the hallways.
Speaker 2: We have to.
Speaker 4: Drift your people.
Speaker 2: We feel obligated, right social contract, Yeah, as duty to
Speaker 2: your community, our podcast community.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's mostly podcast people wandering around.
Speaker 3: Oh not just like janitors and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: And they're like, I thought I was scheduled today and
Speaker 4: it's like, no, do you want to be our guest?
Speaker 4: Let's really so, it's not that charitable.
Speaker 2: No, it's very selfish, very selfish.
Speaker 4: It's perfect timing.
Speaker 5: How have you been, I've been wonderful. I've been I've
Speaker 5: been busy. I'm planning my sixty five city tour, which
Speaker 5: is quite undertaking.
Speaker 2: Name them all right now, yes, But.
Speaker 5: It starts and I could it would take a long
Speaker 5: time to do and I'd have to pull it up.
Speaker 5: But it starts in Arizona, and then I go straight
Speaker 5: through the south to the east coast, and then up
Speaker 5: the east coast and then straight through the north to
Speaker 5: the west coast. And then we decided it was going
Speaker 5: to be like forty cities originally, and then we decided
Speaker 5: to attack on all the Midwest, and I'm going to
Speaker 5: end well, and then I was going to end and
Speaker 5: I'm from Wisconsin originally and there for Christmas, and we
Speaker 5: decided to attack on some January stuff too, because it
Speaker 5: just keeps on. The show's been well received, and then
Speaker 5: the booking of the tour has been easier than we thought.
Speaker 4: So if you're in Wisconsin and you start in Arizona,
Speaker 4: you are doing alphabetically.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2: Right, that's smart.
Speaker 5: Some of those flights I'm driving, I'm driving the whole thing.
Speaker 5: It's going to be like three hours of driving every day.
Speaker 5: I have a show almost every day. I have a
Speaker 5: couple of days off here and there. I have I
Speaker 5: have a few days off after the first week. I
Speaker 5: have a few days off around Halloween, a few days
Speaker 5: off for Thanksgiving long Christmas break. But other than that,
Speaker 5: it's going to be every other or every single day driving.
Speaker 4: For ever done have you done tours like that where.
Speaker 5: I've done like fifteen or twenty cities with this. I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm a club comic usually. And then this show that
Speaker 5: I have about psychedelics called a Good Trip all sorts
Speaker 5: of fun plugs I'm sneaking in.
Speaker 6: Is.
Speaker 5: I started it as like my I told my agent
Speaker 5: I had all this material in years down the line,
Speaker 5: I wanted to put together a show about this, and
Speaker 5: she's like, you should do it now, just try I'll
Speaker 5: line up a couple of indie venues. And we tried
Speaker 5: it and went went okay, and then and worked on
Speaker 5: the marketing of it, and then it was just like, oh,
Speaker 5: this will be a nice little thing I can do
Speaker 5: on like a Wednesday before the club or something, just
Speaker 5: attack an extra day on. And then that show started
Speaker 5: becoming more successful and I was sometimes making more money
Speaker 5: on one Wednesday night than a week at a club,
Speaker 5: and uh, and so we decided to put this tour together.
Speaker 4: It's how Larry the Cable Guy got started. He was
Speaker 4: just doing a character, yeah, this redneck character. And then
Speaker 4: people are like, we like Larry. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I like to compare myself to Larry the Cable Guy
Speaker 5: as much as I possibly can.
Speaker 2: But the difference is you have sleeves, and I think
Speaker 2: that is key. Yeah, yeah, and it's important.
Speaker 5: He's a pretty clutch. I actually just I just watched
Speaker 5: I just watched the Jeff. I didn't watch it all
Speaker 5: the way through, but the Jeff Foxworthy Larry the Cables.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's called we've been thinking yes, and so they
Speaker 4: have not. They haven't been thinking not full thoughts. No,
Speaker 4: they have premises and they're like they made a deal
Speaker 4: with Netflix where they just talk about these premises and
Speaker 4: sit in a chair.
Speaker 3: And they're not like they are pretty well worn premises.
Speaker 5: It's like practology exam and like my wife is crazy and.
Speaker 4: It's a real bad comedy special.
Speaker 2: It's we were watching Into the Writer's Room the other day,
Speaker 2: and there's a real love and celebration where I work
Speaker 2: of terrible things, like they'll watch all terrible things. It
Speaker 2: was so bad we turned it off.
Speaker 3: Really it was.
Speaker 2: I mean, I shouldn't say so bad, but I feel like,
Speaker 2: especially for me, sometimes when I watch comedy that feels
Speaker 2: so uninspired and so almost cynically lazy that it I
Speaker 2: it makes me sick, like it's like that's the thing
Speaker 2: I want to do well and I don't often do
Speaker 2: well and don't work. I'm very lazy. I don't want
Speaker 2: to see those motherfuckers lazy and get paid for it.
Speaker 5: And I've even seen like Larry the Cable Guy have
Speaker 5: like some okay jokes and him yeah, and definitely there's
Speaker 5: like some well written jokes in there, but I could
Speaker 5: not believe. I mean, Jeff Foxworthy's been out it for
Speaker 5: so long, like, how could you be this bad? I
Speaker 5: don't know if he just gave up or something like that,
Speaker 5: but it was like such a relief when Larry the
Speaker 5: Cable Guy was.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, thank god, Larry the
Speaker 3: Cable Guy.
Speaker 2: Some energy, some freshness.
Speaker 4: I was going to admit now that I watched. I
Speaker 4: watched the first five minutes and I couldn't take it.
Speaker 3: Was really awful.
Speaker 4: I skipped sad.
Speaker 5: He seems like a real nice guy and everything worked
Speaker 5: hard to put a good career together for himself, and
Speaker 5: you know, catering to a group of people that want
Speaker 5: to hear that type of stuff and they deserve comedy
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 3: To see him have it.
Speaker 4: A difficult world of station merch.
Speaker 2: Talk me through it, crack that Jeff be my courtison
Speaker 2: into it. Help me. Uh, we were watching it and uh,
Speaker 2: there was some premise. I'm killing myself trying to remember it,
Speaker 2: but it was a thing where everybody in the room
Speaker 2: there was it's not even all stand up comments at
Speaker 2: this show or whatever. Everybody in the room was like,
Speaker 2: isn't that the oldest premise in the world? Yeah, what
Speaker 2: was it?
Speaker 3: Do you? I mean?
Speaker 5: I was, I was pretty drunk when I watched it,
Speaker 5: of course it was actually I was hanging out with
Speaker 5: it was the same situation where it's like a couple
Speaker 5: of comics are out They're like watch which I don't
Speaker 5: normally like doing stuff like that, but I it was interesting,
Speaker 5: just how incredibly bad.
Speaker 4: I soberly decided to watch it one evening midday.
Speaker 3: It was midday and mid week, and yeah, it was something.
Speaker 2: It makes me feel like television is really starting not
Speaker 2: to matter at all anymore. Like they will put anything
Speaker 2: on and it's that thing of like, oh, well, this
Speaker 2: is the person that made money before the deal we're
Speaker 2: gonna make because they already have money, so they don't care.
Speaker 2: So the deal is you can do whatever you want,
Speaker 2: and then they actually do whatever they want.
Speaker 5: I mean, if you're like, if you're like my grandpa
Speaker 5: or something like that, and you just discovered Netflix and
Speaker 5: you watch that special, I mean you're gonna have a
Speaker 5: great time, sure, you know. And so I mean there's
Speaker 5: a market for it. I mean it's not they're huge names.
Speaker 5: They're they're making money off of that.
Speaker 3: I'm of course.
Speaker 2: Sure that's the given. It's like comedy for people who
Speaker 2: don't care that much about comedy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, people that find laughing because of their age painful.
Speaker 2: They want to keep it to a mild giggle.
Speaker 4: Light other way.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: You know what happens with my lakad Jevelyn.
Speaker 2: I need something to bridge out of Fox News and
Speaker 2: then back into Fox News later because.
Speaker 4: Something But yeah, the comedic version of cotton in my mouth.
Speaker 2: But God bless them, I'm sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, great voters, great voters, and you were when you
Speaker 6: were talking about that show, you're is it the Good Trip.
Speaker 2: Show is the one?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So will you talk a little bit about is it
Speaker 2: d m T?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So my show is about psychedelics, and uh it's I
Speaker 5: like doing them things. My last two albums have had
Speaker 5: a theme and this one just happens to be about psychedelics,
Speaker 5: which I am a fan of. And yeah, we're talking
Speaker 5: before the show about d m T, which is that's
Speaker 5: a that's a little Uh, it's an intense one to
Speaker 5: start off on, because unlike mushrooms or LSD or something
Speaker 5: like that, that might make like this felt on this
Speaker 5: nice table here feel real nice.
Speaker 4: There was an episode where you felt the wall for
Speaker 4: a while.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 4: She was tripping.
Speaker 2: That's his I'm on Heroin all the time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, that'll feel good, a little heroine, a
Speaker 5: little soft wall.
Speaker 4: Day. Karen's always tapping the pokey.
Speaker 2: It's very tough.
Speaker 5: Tapping the pokey is the cutest way I've ever heard heroin.
Speaker 3: So yeah, d m T is.
Speaker 5: Dimethyl Trip to mean more people know of ayahuasca seems
Speaker 5: to make the news a bit more. People go down
Speaker 5: to Peru and sit in uh shack with the shaman
Speaker 5: and Mike Caplan.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I gave Mike DMT for his first time actually,
Speaker 5: and he didn't it was too intense for him. But
Speaker 5: he enjoys ayahuasca because DMT is the active ingredient in ayahuasca,
Speaker 5: and you smoke it and it's just a ten minute
Speaker 5: long but extremely intense. It's like the six hour ayahuasca
Speaker 5: trip all boiled down into ten minutes.
Speaker 4: They have the vomiting that everyone no.
Speaker 5: No, And I've done. I've done a couple of ayahuasca ceremonies.
Speaker 5: I did it after doing lots of d MT, and
Speaker 5: I found them to be very disappointing because I was
Speaker 5: expecting it to be like DMT but like maybe a
Speaker 5: little slower and a little elongated, and it was like
Speaker 5: it just felt like a strong mushroom trip to me.
Speaker 5: And so so yeah, people go down to Peru and
Speaker 5: like realize they need to get out of a cubicle
Speaker 5: and focus on pottery or whatever because they just puked
Speaker 5: all over their friend.
Speaker 3: And but so.
Speaker 5: Apparently dimethyl trip to me and some people think and
Speaker 5: the science and any of this stuff is because of
Speaker 5: because of how strictly it's regulated is is iffy. But
Speaker 5: they think that it's uh what makes you dream at night.
Speaker 5: It's naturally in your brain and that's what makes you
Speaker 5: dream at night, which I sort of believe because I've
Speaker 5: had some d MT trips where because so normally you
Speaker 5: smoke DMT and you go to like a different world entirely.
Speaker 5: It's like a totally different place, completely foreign and different things.
Speaker 4: Sleeping or are your eyes closed.
Speaker 5: Nor your eyes are usually closed, it helps, but if
Speaker 5: your eyes are open, you'll see the same stuff, but
Speaker 5: it's just like you'll see it over like this, this
Speaker 5: perception that we all see would be like a glare
Speaker 5: on that on that TV screen of d MT basically,
Speaker 5: so it's just easier to see if your eyes are closed,
Speaker 5: and it kind of wraps around you and you feel
Speaker 5: like you're a part of it. But it's a lot
Speaker 5: of like fractals and shapes and odd colors and tunnels
Speaker 5: that you're flying through and that sort of thing, and
Speaker 5: like weird like like hologram like cities and stuff like that,
Speaker 5: and and the these strange like this bizarre like architecture
Speaker 5: and in like this kind of hyperspace. It's it's exceptionally intense.
Speaker 5: It's very very intense and so but but I have seen,
Speaker 5: but I have seen like dreams like like me and
Speaker 5: my girlfriend walking down a street or something like that
Speaker 5: in a d MT trip before. So that's what leads
Speaker 5: me to believe that maybe they're onto something with that.
Speaker 5: And then they think it gets released in high volumes
Speaker 5: right before you die, and that's why.
Speaker 3: People are lucky enough to be revived.
Speaker 5: They have all these stories of seeing these bright lights
Speaker 5: God and all that, which I get because you do
Speaker 5: see like if you smoke enough of it, especially over time,
Speaker 5: you'll see like beings and all these weird things that
Speaker 5: are communicated white light. Yeah, purple, but yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 5: I stay away from that, away.
Speaker 2: From the light. Yeah yeah, the old at it yea from.
Speaker 3: Sunglasses God Dress.
Speaker 4: I can't remember her name, but the yes, I knew,
Speaker 4: you'd know. She was also in sixteen Candles.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I did, So I've done that like probably
Speaker 5: like ninety times or so, did I Yeah, by did
Speaker 5: ayahuasca like twice two times in a row. And I
Speaker 5: thought it was silly. I thought it was like a
Speaker 5: bunch of people kidding themselves. And by the way, I
Speaker 5: don't think that it's like gods and stuff that you're seeing. Actually,
Speaker 5: I just think it's what it looks like. I just
Speaker 5: think it's what the inner workings of the mind look like.
Speaker 5: I think it's very much like the movie Inside Out,
Speaker 5: which is a cute little children's representation, But I really
Speaker 5: do think that that's what the brain is doing. I
Speaker 5: have a science podcast called Here We Are. I travel
Speaker 5: around and talk with scientists about life, and I'm into
Speaker 5: neuroscience and stuff, and I do think that there's different
Speaker 5: We all have to wear like many hats in life,
Speaker 5: and we like you have to be a child and
Speaker 5: then a parent, and you have to be dating and
Speaker 5: monogamous or you know, or a coworker or friend, and
Speaker 5: to do that, your brain needs all of these different
Speaker 5: mechanisms and you have to have these kind of different
Speaker 5: personalities at different times. And I think that they're stored
Speaker 5: somewhere and you're non conscious kind of living down there
Speaker 5: and running these simulations for future kind of like you know,
Speaker 5: when when as a comedian, you'll sometimes be like or
Speaker 5: when I was a kid, especially before I as a
Speaker 5: comedian getting like picked on at the school.
Speaker 3: Yard or whatever. I'd be like, oh.
Speaker 5: Next time that happens, I'll know just what to say.
Speaker 5: And then he kind of fantasize about that situation.
Speaker 4: I do that every day, whether most.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we all do.
Speaker 5: And I think that that's exactly that's what's happening in
Speaker 5: the non conscious world. And it's just like it looks
Speaker 5: so bizarre when because it's not like this at all,
Speaker 5: that it looks like you're seeing like space or these
Speaker 5: different dimensions or aliens or whatever it might be.
Speaker 3: But I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 4: So if I were, would you suggest you think they're unrelated,
Speaker 4: this ayahuasca thing, like it wouldn't be a good thing
Speaker 4: to do before you did something like DMT, because.
Speaker 5: I maybe maybe I might have ruined ayahuasca for myself
Speaker 5: by doing going skipping straight.
Speaker 3: To the chase.
Speaker 4: I think that's what you're describing you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But if.
Speaker 4: I'm worried that, I'm worried that if I because I'm
Speaker 4: not afraid to do these things, neither open my mind.
Speaker 4: But I don't want to see my whole family melting
Speaker 4: or something like. I don't want to see bad things
Speaker 4: I'm worried about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the thing with psychedelics is like they're
Speaker 5: not necessarily a pleasurable thing.
Speaker 3: They certainly can be in very euphoric.
Speaker 5: And whatnot, and and like you know, you can have
Speaker 5: a Fourth of July party and have a lot of
Speaker 5: fun or whatever.
Speaker 3: But usually when I.
Speaker 5: Are you talking about, I am, which was a wonderful time,
Speaker 5: by the way, that was that was fantastic.
Speaker 3: Nate Craig can't be stopped.
Speaker 2: He won't stop, he will.
Speaker 3: Not be.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, you can do it in a
Speaker 5: party situation like that, and I do once in a while,
Speaker 5: but to me, most of the time, I'm not getting
Speaker 5: the Facebook reference. That's that's fine, But I usually use
Speaker 5: psychedelicis like a meditative therapeutic aid.
Speaker 3: I like to do them by.
Speaker 5: Myself, yourself, sitting right, And if I'm with other people,
Speaker 5: I always feel like I'm like I always feel like
Speaker 5: I need to be like the caregiver, Like like people
Speaker 5: think I'm going to be like their spirit guide or
Speaker 5: something like that, and I just like I'd rather not
Speaker 5: have the responsibility.
Speaker 3: And it's kind of takes me out of it.
Speaker 4: People have brought when drug talk comes up. Uh, your
Speaker 4: name comes up as someone that you should do it with.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 4: This girl in Austin said that you were her guide on.
Speaker 3: Some d MT probably yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Can't remember her name.
Speaker 2: But now, what's the drug that was just a week ago?
Speaker 2: Have you seen those YouTube videos where people take a hit.
Speaker 2: There's a really kind of famous YouTube video where it's
Speaker 2: a guy and a girl in the living room and
Speaker 2: they both take a hit off this pipe and then
Speaker 2: they will start freaking out almost immediately, and the guide jump.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what's that drug?
Speaker 3: I have no idea it's.
Speaker 2: It's I don't It's not DMT.
Speaker 4: No, No, it's like a d MT.
Speaker 3: You are.
Speaker 5: You're sitting just like I'm sitting right now, Like you're
Speaker 5: not moving. You forget that you have a body, You
Speaker 5: don't you don't remember. Like sometimes I'm in there and
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh wait, okay, I'm I'm a I'm a human.
Speaker 5: I'm a shame. I just spoke to this DMT stuff.
Speaker 5: I'm sitting in a couch right now.
Speaker 2: You'll just comp're not flying through space.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, so yeah, you would be immobile.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I can't even Maybe I need to, but
Speaker 4: I can't even when I smoke in the past, I've
Speaker 4: smoked weed a bunch, and I don't like losing control
Speaker 4: in that way. I don't like.
Speaker 3: Weed that much. I feel a out of control on
Speaker 3: weed more than anything.
Speaker 4: Me too, Me too, Yeah, I don't like.
Speaker 5: I don't mind edibles if it's a light dosage because
Speaker 5: it's more of a body those kind of a thing.
Speaker 5: But I'm not a big weed guy.
Speaker 4: Actually makes me doubt everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of paranoia. Yeah, Like it's the enjoyment.
Speaker 2: I like it fine, but the enjoyment is like usually
Speaker 2: fifty percent. No, I say, the enjoyment is like forty
Speaker 2: two percent and the possibility of just like weird bad
Speaker 2: feeling is sixty eight percent. Is that the right matth? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just like that weird thing around. It's a real
Speaker 2: roll of the dice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is for me too.
Speaker 5: And I feel like I can be a socially awkward
Speaker 5: person anyway, right, And I feel like we'd really can
Speaker 5: bring that out. Sometimes it's just fantastic, but it can
Speaker 5: really bring that out of me, and it feels like
Speaker 5: it just slows me down. And I mean, I'm very
Speaker 5: grateful for We'd. We'd was like a big part of
Speaker 5: my life for like three or four years. I think
Speaker 5: is like the first drug that I really latched onto
Speaker 5: and really changed the way that I look at life.
Speaker 5: And I'm grateful for it, but I kind of I
Speaker 5: got sick of it and I didn't like quit or
Speaker 5: anything like that.
Speaker 3: I just got bored with it.
Speaker 4: It's funny to me that marijuana is like a pain
Speaker 4: aid for people with cancer, because when I'm high, I
Speaker 4: think that every feeling in my body is potential cancer.
Speaker 3: Well I'm like, yeah, all paranoid and start shutting.
Speaker 2: I have like a bubble here, a cancer bubble.
Speaker 4: Yeah, cancer bubble. And that guy's a cop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I may Craig. I've tripped like so hard.
Speaker 5: And everything else so many times, but I've never felt
Speaker 5: like I was going to die before, except on weed.
Speaker 3: Was like I'm going to like, yeah, how many times?
Speaker 2: I remember playing like dominoes with my friend and we
Speaker 2: got super high and then I was like, I can't
Speaker 2: really think I'm having a heart attack. And it was
Speaker 2: Jeremy Kramer. He goes, do you want me to take
Speaker 2: you to the emergency room?
Speaker 3: And then I was like no.
Speaker 2: It was just like suddenly I realized, like, there's no
Speaker 2: way your as a twenty I was like twenty six,
Speaker 2: Like you're not having a heart attack.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no matter how high you are, you can't ignore
Speaker 4: that condescending tone. Yes, it's like, oh, thank you for
Speaker 4: snapping me out.
Speaker 2: That's right, it's the only thing that would have worked well.
Speaker 5: And then and then there's some people that function really
Speaker 5: well on weed and there and they're funny and they
Speaker 5: get lots of work done and the like high function.
Speaker 5: I have a I have a friend in Portland who
Speaker 5: he smokes dabs, which dab smoke. It's just very very
Speaker 5: high concentrated marijuana. It's just processed a little differently. It's
Speaker 5: just the tar based and it's ridiculous because then you
Speaker 5: need whole setups to do it. You need like a
Speaker 5: big glass bong and like a blow torch and like
Speaker 5: all this fuck Jesus stupid. But but it's just like
Speaker 5: it's just normal weed times probably ten or something like that.
Speaker 5: And he wakes up in the morning starts smoking dabs
Speaker 5: and I give him a hard time for and we're
Speaker 5: I haven't known him for that long, but he we
Speaker 5: were we were playing a board game one day and
Speaker 5: I and he was just really stupid. Yeah, he was
Speaker 5: just doing like really stupid stuff and like not understanding.
Speaker 5: I'm like, like, Joe, you smoke too many dabs, man,
Speaker 5: And then he's like.
Speaker 3: No, I haven't had a dab in a while.
Speaker 5: It's been too long, and he went smoked a dab
Speaker 5: and then he was just normal again.
Speaker 3: And that function with a bad signs.
Speaker 4: They're the opener for Larry the Cable guy. I think
Speaker 4: he quit the Shannon McLaughlan guy. Do you remember him? No,
Speaker 4: he was a younger. He had a bad hip. I
Speaker 4: have a bad hip. He had a bad but he
Speaker 4: got high before every show and he insisted that he
Speaker 4: needed it. He was a great comic, but he got high.
Speaker 4: And it scared the hell out of me that he
Speaker 4: was dependent on being high. Yeah, he did stand up,
Speaker 4: but that scares me.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Have you ever been high on stage?
Speaker 4: A couple of times and it was not fun?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I've done it probably twenty times, and most
Speaker 5: of them like kind of goof off shows where I
Speaker 5: didn't like there's just like a goof off in passing
Speaker 5: like I was. I was just kind of stopping through
Speaker 5: on my way to do other things, to do a
Speaker 5: quick spot when I do a.
Speaker 4: Big show in Vegas. Hop he's so horrified.
Speaker 5: I think I've had like ten good experiences in ten
Speaker 5: pretty very uncomfortable experiences, and it's just not worth that
Speaker 5: chance at all.
Speaker 4: I think you can get into a rhythm and feel
Speaker 4: like you're oh, I have opened something up. I am
Speaker 4: saying things that maybe I'd be apprehensive about. But then
Speaker 4: you get stopped and your brain will go, how about
Speaker 4: you just a blank for a half a minute. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I can't remember any of your thoughts. And that's what
Speaker 4: makes me mad about weed. I hate that you can't.
Speaker 4: I want to get into it because you know, I'd
Speaker 4: like to be a person that doesn't drink for a
Speaker 4: long time. You drink, right, and then you stopped.
Speaker 3: I stopped for like three years.
Speaker 5: I drink again now, Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 5: quit for like three and I drink for the most
Speaker 5: part like a normal person now. And I mean I
Speaker 5: have some wild nights here and there, but I haven't
Speaker 5: gotten myself into any trouble. I haven't had any like
Speaker 5: red flags or anything since I've started drinking again. It
Speaker 5: was when I it was so I broke my feet
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago and both.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, can tell that story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I I was.
Speaker 5: I was hiking. I made an album about it called
Speaker 5: My Big Break. I like, like I said, I like
Speaker 5: doing themed things. But yeah, I was hiking with a friend.
Speaker 5: I was in the best shape of my life. I
Speaker 5: hadn't been drinking for at least two years. I never like,
Speaker 5: I didn't like mark my calendar. I wasn't in La
Speaker 5: getting chips or anything like that. I just didn't feel
Speaker 5: like it, and it felt like it was affecting my life.
Speaker 5: But I hadn't hadn't smoked cigarettes in like three years,
Speaker 5: and and I'd been working. I was like way into
Speaker 5: rock climbing, and for like the first time in my
Speaker 5: entire life. I've never been in shape in my entire life.
Speaker 5: And I had about a year where I was in
Speaker 5: like really great shape and and just way too much confidence.
Speaker 5: And I was hiking in Sedona, Arizona with a friend
Speaker 5: who wanted to take this shortcut that his that is,
Speaker 5: his wife would never let him take. And here's here
Speaker 5: was part of the problem too. He was like this big,
Speaker 5: he has like four hundred pounds. Like his whole life,
Speaker 5: he's been like crazy obese and then he he did this,
Speaker 5: but he's a really really really strange dude and he's
Speaker 5: like married to a psychic and stuff, and he he
Speaker 5: decided to he looked up this like bulletproof diet sort
Speaker 5: of thing or something like that. Well, he just drank
Speaker 5: coffee with butter in it. Yeah, and didn't eat for like,
Speaker 5: I think it was like thirty days or something like that,
Speaker 5: and he.
Speaker 3: Lost all of his weight. Yeah, like just like that.
Speaker 4: He lost us.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, who knows how much.
Speaker 4: Lemon and cayenne thing for fifteen days?
Speaker 3: And I felt like, you didn't eat anything?
Speaker 4: No, I just drank the lemon.
Speaker 5: What is that? Like?
Speaker 4: It was a man. There's pine cones shooting out of it.
Speaker 4: I was like, well that was cancer also. But and
Speaker 4: I had energy and I wasn't after a while. After
Speaker 4: seven days of it, I wasn't really hungry, but it
Speaker 4: was a frantic energy like that. I didn't know what
Speaker 4: to do with it. And I could tell my arm
Speaker 4: my muscles.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's supposed to be some ketosis thing and stuff like,
Speaker 5: it's not an area of science that I know anything.
Speaker 4: To feel whatever that is. But I could tell that
Speaker 4: my muscles were welting away. But my guts. Like I
Speaker 4: it was like my body had become a filtration system. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was coming.
Speaker 3: Out at this point or something like that.
Speaker 4: No, not really five pounds or something.
Speaker 5: Because if I don't like have five pounds to lose,
Speaker 5: if I want to like add weight, I've been freakishly
Speaker 5: skinny my whole life. I'm self conscious about it. And
Speaker 5: uh and that would that would worry me. I mean,
Speaker 5: I get the idea of I mean, we do put
Speaker 5: a lot of garbage in us, and like the idea
Speaker 5: of a cleanse sounds like a but it seemed it
Speaker 5: also sees is a real.
Speaker 4: Crazy They're call in all that stuff that was good. Well,
Speaker 4: I've never heard in the butter coffee.
Speaker 2: Well you know what's cool about that is the butter
Speaker 2: coffee thing, because I tried that bulletproof coffee one time,
Speaker 2: and there was something about it. Because I have am
Speaker 2: I quit sugar recently, and it's a hard thing to do.
Speaker 2: But once you do it, especially if you're an overweight person,
Speaker 2: want you lose the craving of sugar and that which
Speaker 2: is the thing that keeps you compulsively eating. And once
Speaker 2: that's gone, it's the weirdest feeling to not have that
Speaker 2: like monkey on your back that it's easy.
Speaker 3: We're addicted to sugar, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's there's like an allergy when
Speaker 2: you're like a person that becomes obese and has that
Speaker 2: kind of system. It's like this allergy where you can't
Speaker 2: have any because the amount you have, it's like you
Speaker 2: exponentially want to eat more and more of anything just
Speaker 2: to get the sugar in you. So once you're clean
Speaker 2: of it, like if you did bulletproof coffee for twenty
Speaker 2: thirty days and then that would totally be out of
Speaker 2: your system, and then it would be like, yeah, you
Speaker 2: can drop all the way you want because you don't
Speaker 2: have like the addiction anymore.
Speaker 5: I will say, in like my health kick, I did
Speaker 5: because I was in CrossFit in the place I was
Speaker 5: at this whole life challenge thing and I was like,
Speaker 5: I didn't want to do it. I wasn't interested, and
Speaker 5: they just kind of like bullied me into it basically.
Speaker 5: And I was trying to be very open minded and
Speaker 5: I wasn't interested in dieting or anything like that because
Speaker 5: I eat healthy enough anyway. But I did there very strict,
Speaker 5: like you know, no sugar, no artificial stuff. And it
Speaker 5: was like very I don't know, it was very Why
Speaker 5: am I forgetting like paleo ish?
Speaker 3: I guess yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: And and and it was I have to admit, the
Speaker 5: best I ever felt in my entire life. I had
Speaker 5: so much energy. I was so sharp and smart, like
Speaker 5: I think now. I mean, I I do feel foggy sometimes,
Speaker 5: just like eating if I eat, if I'm on the road,
Speaker 5: and you know, I got this. I'm worried about this
Speaker 5: tour because when you're driving like that, you don't want
Speaker 5: to eat.
Speaker 3: I want to keep going destination.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I definitely it does create like some sort
Speaker 5: of fog in my head.
Speaker 2: Oh it's terrible. It's poison. It causes inflammation, and it
Speaker 2: makes your brain swell up and all all your other
Speaker 2: shits swell up. It's I mean, I'm like the weird
Speaker 2: born again frission about it now, because I'm like, oo's
Speaker 2: I'm just.
Speaker 4: So happy you feel great and look great.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I definitely feel great. I like so much.
Speaker 2: I was like just constantly sleeping. I was basically just
Speaker 2: like always eating sugar and sleeping all the time. And
Speaker 2: I was like, this is bad.
Speaker 5: Sleeping's good. For the most part, it's good for you.
Speaker 5: I love naps. Naps are I think there should be
Speaker 5: more napping. I don't think people realize how great naps are.
Speaker 2: It's the best, except for when you do a too
Speaker 2: long one and then you're just fucked.
Speaker 3: I do about I do about twenty five minutes.
Speaker 2: Oh, like if you fall asleep for three hours in
Speaker 2: the middle of the day, and then like when I
Speaker 2: wake up, I don't know where I am and I
Speaker 2: don't know my.
Speaker 4: Last I love when I take an afternoon nap and
Speaker 4: I wake up right around bedtime. That's the worst feeling.
Speaker 4: When I was in Spain, though, the restaurants closed at three,
Speaker 4: like at CSTA time, and they everyone went and took naps.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really good for the brain. People will really
Speaker 5: underestimate what the non conscious brain is doing.
Speaker 3: When I work.
Speaker 5: I do this like Palmodoro technique, which is very simple.
Speaker 5: It's just you got to find your range. But it's
Speaker 5: like around twenty to thirty minutes where you just focus on.
Speaker 5: And also twenty thirty minutes doesn't seem like a very
Speaker 5: long time to just like Okay, I'll just clean or
Speaker 5: study this or whatever for thirty minutes or whatever, and
Speaker 5: that's it, and then you stop.
Speaker 3: You just have to stop. Don't push it past that.
Speaker 5: And then you just take like a five or ten
Speaker 5: minute break and do whatever you want yourself with other things,
Speaker 5: get your mind off of it for five or ten minutes,
Speaker 5: come back to it, and then just keep on doing
Speaker 5: that throughout the day, because your non conscious brain's doing
Speaker 5: all the work. It's what's coming up with. You know,
Speaker 5: you're grinding out a joker, you have some good joke idea,
Speaker 5: and then you're like, or you have a bad joke
Speaker 5: idea rather, and then you're like, screw that, you forget
Speaker 5: about it. You just like, that'll never work. That doesn't
Speaker 5: enter your mind again. A month later, it pops back
Speaker 5: into your head, just the best idea that you've ever had, Like,
Speaker 5: what's it doing down there?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 5: And so you need you need to give that non
Speaker 5: conscious Yeah.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Is there a pamphy of a pamphlet?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What it's the Pomodorum.
Speaker 5: Even Yeah, it's a you can look it up. It's
Speaker 5: pretty it's pretty simple.
Speaker 2: Just giving your full attention to one thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for for just for anything you want.
Speaker 5: So I'll have like a to do list or whatever,
Speaker 5: so I'll be like, Okay, this one I'll do for
Speaker 5: I usually set my alarm for like twenty three minutes,
Speaker 5: and then when it goes off, I can keep working
Speaker 5: for like five minutes if I'm like writing in the
Speaker 5: flow of something, and then just take a break. And
Speaker 5: so with my with my science podcast. The easiest way
Speaker 5: for me to keep up with because I have a
Speaker 5: broad array of topics is I take as many like
Speaker 5: online courses as I can.
Speaker 3: I don't do homework or anything.
Speaker 5: I just watch the lectures and try to just get
Speaker 5: a brief synopsis of the information. And I took this
Speaker 5: class learning how to Learn through course Era, and they
Speaker 5: talked a lot about that.
Speaker 3: That's that's where I got that problem.
Speaker 5: But I've I've talked with other scientists have told me
Speaker 5: that they use it as well.
Speaker 3: It works really well. And because I have a hard time,
Speaker 3: like if you're like, okay, I got to do.
Speaker 5: This whole to do list, well, if that's like eight
Speaker 5: hour like just to get motivated, you'll put it off
Speaker 5: and put it off. But to do like twenty thirty
Speaker 5: minutes of work, like anyone will sit down and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that absolutely, So let's go back to my feet. Yeah,
Speaker 3: friend is so he.
Speaker 5: So, I guess it's not that crazy what he did
Speaker 5: to do this weird diet, but and he's feeling the
Speaker 5: best he's ever felt in his life. He's been this
Speaker 5: huge person his whole life, and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: he's normal.
Speaker 4: Say it was three four hundred, how big?
Speaker 3: I think he was close to four hundred.
Speaker 5: That's a big that's a person and now and then
Speaker 5: he got down to like a little over two hundred
Speaker 5: I think. And so for the first time in his life,
Speaker 5: like he could do stuff. And so he's getting really
Speaker 5: active and doing all this jiu jitsu and like all
Speaker 5: this other stuff, and even started doing a little bit
Speaker 5: of rock climbing, and but he didn't know how high
Speaker 5: he could jump from because he just had never been
Speaker 5: able to like jump off things before, and he thought
Speaker 5: he was Superman, and so he was like convinced that
Speaker 5: this one jump would be okay down to the shortcut
Speaker 5: and I was like, ah, that's too high, and he's like.
Speaker 3: No, no, we can make it.
Speaker 5: And I was like ah, and he's like really committed
Speaker 5: to it, and I was like, well, why don't I
Speaker 5: at least try it? First, because I can. I've been jumping, yeah,
Speaker 5: I've been, like, and I love heights. I'm not averse
Speaker 5: to heights. And I was in great shape, too much confidence,
Speaker 5: and I tried it and I broke both my heels
Speaker 5: and one of them exploded, and I had to crawl
Speaker 5: down the mountain for a few hours, which sucked because
Speaker 5: it's too steep for anyone to really help me.
Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, kind of uh.
Speaker 4: You had when I saw you. I saw you in
Speaker 4: the airport somewhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a wheelchair, wasn't I.
Speaker 4: At that point you had you were walking around, but
Speaker 4: your feet had this open.
Speaker 3: Oh, I had the vacuum.
Speaker 4: I maintained some open wound.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So so the break wasn't I mean it was.
Speaker 5: It was the worst part, but like more shit hit
Speaker 5: the fan afterwards.
Speaker 3: So I had to.
Speaker 5: I couldn't care for myself. And in my place. You
Speaker 5: were at my old place in Malibu. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 5: it has all the steps to get up, so I couldn't,
Speaker 5: like there's no way I could like get groceries up
Speaker 5: or anything. So I had to move into my parents'
Speaker 5: basement for three months and have them take care of me.
Speaker 5: And uh, and the and the one foot was not
Speaker 5: just not that big of a deal at all. It's
Speaker 5: just like a little chip. But the other one was
Speaker 5: was serious. And they told me before they did the surgery,
Speaker 5: they were debating. They were like, we don't know if
Speaker 5: we can we should even do this surgery because it's
Speaker 5: so invasive and and but your bones just you'll never
Speaker 5: walk right again if we don't do it. And so
Speaker 5: we did the surgery and they did a great job
Speaker 5: with it, but but just because of.
Speaker 3: Because of where where it was.
Speaker 5: So this is where they cut in on my foot,
Speaker 5: there's just like a.
Speaker 4: A dippy very.
Speaker 3: Was.
Speaker 5: So they they did the surgery and then I got
Speaker 5: on the road again and it's like, okay, you know,
Speaker 5: I'm sure I'll recover from this. And then I didn't know,
Speaker 5: but I got a bone infection and they warned me
Speaker 5: that that might be the case because they didn't this didn't.
Speaker 3: Seal properly, so there was still like it was because
Speaker 3: of chicken fingers rubbing them in there.
Speaker 5: And when I got the bone infection that bone infections
Speaker 5: can be very soon stuff, and I almost lost my foot.
Speaker 5: They were worried about it, and so then I had
Speaker 5: to get another surgery, and they had to just cut
Speaker 5: out where that hole was.
Speaker 3: They just cut off like as.
Speaker 5: Much of my foot as they could and took all
Speaker 5: the metal out and everything which they were going to
Speaker 5: leave in originally. And then they and then so then
Speaker 5: three so then I had this. Well, before I had
Speaker 5: the vacuum, I had three times a day.
Speaker 4: Vacuum is not literally a mechanism that is sucking, but
Speaker 4: a tube or so like it's open air letting air in.
Speaker 3: Right, No, it's an actual vacuum.
Speaker 4: Good lord.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like it's noisy and stuff you're carried around
Speaker 5: with you and and it's it's also it's also like
Speaker 5: a tube. I would put it like through my pants
Speaker 5: because otherwise it would get caught on things. And so
Speaker 5: people would see me come into a restaurant. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: then there's a tube going into my pants, and it's
Speaker 5: like I almost had to explain to people, like sorry,
Speaker 5: sorry to ruin your dinner. It's not it's not like anything.
Speaker 5: It's just a foothole with uh in fact, business.
Speaker 2: Bones just bone stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had bathroom three times a day. I had
Speaker 5: to before that. That vacuum thing is amazing actually, but
Speaker 5: before that, I had I had to.
Speaker 3: I'm a little.
Speaker 5: Bitter about our healthcare system from this. I had to
Speaker 5: because they like basically my insurance kicked me out of
Speaker 5: the hospital and I had to pull all the gauze
Speaker 5: out of my foothole, like put rubber gloves on, in
Speaker 5: a mask and everything.
Speaker 3: I had to.
Speaker 5: I had to hook myself up TV's, yeah, three times
Speaker 5: a day. I had to like google how to do
Speaker 5: half the ship, and then I had to pull all
Speaker 5: this gulls out of my foot and then I had
Speaker 5: to like clean off my own bone.
Speaker 2: Hold on. The doctors knew that you did this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they they were like, originally I was going
Speaker 5: to be in the hospital for like two weeks or
Speaker 5: so maybe and they were gonna like really take care
Speaker 5: of me. And then they came in after like a
Speaker 5: few days and they're like, your insurance thinks you're better,
Speaker 5: so they're saying that you.
Speaker 3: Need to leave, and.
Speaker 2: The doctors didn't go there. I can't.
Speaker 3: Sorry. Yeah, it was, uh, it sucked. I did.
Speaker 5: I did get a home nurse that would come once
Speaker 5: a day and do it for me, and I'd have
Speaker 5: to do it the other two times.
Speaker 3: It was a night.
Speaker 4: How you learned how that you just watched her do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she taught me how to do it a little bit.
Speaker 5: And then and then like some of the IV's. I
Speaker 5: remember the first night I have these ivs and I'm like,
Speaker 5: there's bubbles and these I vs.
Speaker 3: I can't have this.
Speaker 5: What happens is like now I'm in my head, I'm like,
Speaker 5: do you die if there's that? Turns out that's not
Speaker 5: really a thing. But you don't want bubbles in there, yea,
Speaker 5: And but it will oxygen and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was. It was a nightmare.
Speaker 5: It was so it was every eight hours too, and
Speaker 5: it took like two hours for the ivy and to
Speaker 5: do all this stuff. So it was like I could
Speaker 5: never sleep for more than like five hours at a time.
Speaker 4: Eat a lot of work done, or make not.
Speaker 3: I couldn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I couldn't do anything. And it was it was
Speaker 5: really hard. I remember. I remember, like, you know, you'd
Speaker 5: manage it. I'd change it out. I'd put like a
Speaker 5: plastic thing over my foot so i could take my
Speaker 5: crutches into the shower and shower and then go out
Speaker 5: to like do a show in La and then I'd
Speaker 5: i'd uh. I remember, and I was like handling it.
Speaker 5: I was managing it. And then and then I remember
Speaker 5: like there'd just be times where I'd be like put
Speaker 5: my shoe on and like holding a little looped and
Speaker 5: then like the loop snapped, and it was just like no,
Speaker 5: not like any little thing that I wasn't prepared for.
Speaker 5: It was just like too much was just the jaw
Speaker 5: that breaks the camel's back. And so I got through
Speaker 5: all that, didn't lose my foot, and then I got
Speaker 5: on the cane and then I was like, Okay, light
Speaker 5: at the end of the tunnel. And then after a
Speaker 5: few weeks, I realized that every other step that I
Speaker 5: take in life is going to hurt and and then
Speaker 5: I had like a bit of a mental breakdown and uh.
Speaker 5: And then my brother was going to Vegas for his
Speaker 5: first time. I was supposed to meet him out there,
Speaker 5: and I was so depressed. And I've had like chronic
Speaker 5: depression my whole life, something like used to it, it's
Speaker 5: not that big of a deal for me, but this
Speaker 5: was like really unmanageable, and I was like thinking about
Speaker 5: checking myself into a fucking institution and stuff.
Speaker 3: And I then.
Speaker 5: And I was going to cancel on my brother, and
Speaker 5: I was like I'll just go and I'll just have
Speaker 5: some drinks and then I'll be fine. And that's why
Speaker 5: I started drinking again. It was it was it saved
Speaker 5: me from having like a mental breakdown.
Speaker 3: Actually, you need I needed some sort of release.
Speaker 2: And that's so much to deal with in a consistent way.
Speaker 2: That's just crazy. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's intense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you say you're going to pain when you
Speaker 4: walk every time, do you still do a pain?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 5: It's it's I do, it's you know, it's it's not
Speaker 5: really even worth complaining about that.
Speaker 3: I would say that it's bad enough.
Speaker 5: Where if I really wanted to, I could get a
Speaker 5: handicapped sticker, but I would be an asshole for doing it.
Speaker 4: It's definitely not use that instead of the one through tenth.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, if you had.
Speaker 4: How much of an asshole would you feel?
Speaker 5: I have a guy, I mean, I have so out
Speaker 5: of a month, I'll just get hit with like three
Speaker 5: or four really bad days, like right in a row,
Speaker 5: and I can't I can't exactly pick up on what's
Speaker 5: triggering it. But other than that, it's really it's not
Speaker 5: that bad.
Speaker 2: And how long ago did that happen?
Speaker 5: This is like two years ago in Man recently, yeah,
Speaker 5: not too long ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it changed my life.
Speaker 5: But I got a really good album out of it,
Speaker 5: and it kind of like re set and it kind
Speaker 5: of reset my approach to comedy because when I started,
Speaker 5: I just did not give a fuck about comedy. I mean,
Speaker 5: like about like bombing, like I would take all the
Speaker 5: chances in the world.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I like it.
Speaker 4: I like your old jokes though, yeah, yeah, but there
Speaker 4: was a point no, I switched it up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I loved I loved my old jokes too, and
Speaker 5: but it was because, like I mean, I just like
Speaker 5: did not give a like if the audience laughter.
Speaker 3: And I would try out new material all the time.
Speaker 5: And I was like so brave when I started, and
Speaker 5: then something about like you start making a living and
Speaker 5: then there's pressure you don't want to get in trouble
Speaker 5: with the club, and it started affecting my act.
Speaker 3: And then my first whack.
Speaker 5: At kind of putting putting together a theme show, which
Speaker 5: is what I want to try to do, is it
Speaker 5: became a special on Netflix called Mating Season, which I wasn't.
Speaker 3: Totally jazzed about. It wasn't it just wasn't me.
Speaker 5: And I tried to make it very accessible, and it
Speaker 5: ended up being I had much more challenging material, but
Speaker 5: I thought like I wanted to get a broad audience,
Speaker 5: and it just it just wasn't.
Speaker 3: I still like a lot of the stuff and.
Speaker 5: Whatever, but but when I broke my feet, I was
Speaker 5: just like, fuck it, I'm just gonna do what I
Speaker 5: like to do. I'm just I'm not going to cater
Speaker 5: to the audience anymore. And I needed that because, like,
Speaker 5: my career is in much better shape now.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And it was because that's the lesson. I mean,
Speaker 2: like in all different ways people learn that, but there
Speaker 2: is no broad audience. It's like, you have to get
Speaker 2: up and do what you're authentically supposed to be talking about.
Speaker 2: That's the only reason people are going to want to
Speaker 2: watch you.
Speaker 5: Oh, I can't talk about psychedelics for an hour and
Speaker 5: a half, which is how long my show is, to
Speaker 5: just a random comedy club audience, which is very understandable.
Speaker 5: If I if I went to a comedy club, I
Speaker 5: wouldn't want to see a comic get up and talk
Speaker 5: about like NASCAR for the whole time if I didn't
Speaker 5: know that's what was happening.
Speaker 2: And and so, but the people who do want to
Speaker 2: hear about it are fascinating.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the and the the level of enthusiasm for it.
Speaker 4: How did you go about booking this tour?
Speaker 3: Then?
Speaker 4: What did you is a lot of it at comedy clubs?
Speaker 4: Are you doing other.
Speaker 5: I'm doing comedy clubs on off nights like Tuesday, you know, Sundays, Wednesdays.
Speaker 5: I'll mix it up probably, yeah, And I'm doing but
Speaker 5: I'm pretty much the only comedy clubs I'm doing are
Speaker 5: pretty much only like the best ones in the country,
Speaker 5: Like I'm doing all the Heliums all their locations in
Speaker 5: Philly and Albany in Portland, and I'm doing Denver Comedy Works,
Speaker 5: which is amazing, and Comedy on State and and there's
Speaker 5: a few Columbus Funny Bone. There's a few other good
Speaker 5: ones that I'm that I didn't get in, but like
Speaker 5: Hilarities in Cleveland. So those are the bigger ones I'm doing.
Speaker 5: But most of what I'm doing is like music venues.
Speaker 5: I'm also doing some small like on Mondays, doing like
Speaker 5: a coffee shop or like a pizza joint or something
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 3: Predominantly, how do.
Speaker 4: You promote it though? If you're not if you don't
Speaker 4: want people to just go to see.
Speaker 5: I figured out how to target the psychedelic community. Basically,
Speaker 5: I actually I just I'll tell you my secret. I
Speaker 5: what happened was I was trying all sorts of different
Speaker 5: marketing things, and like I, once I got the show together,
Speaker 5: I knew I was onto something. And like the reaction
Speaker 5: I get, Like I do a show or my regular show,
Speaker 5: people are like, hey, nice job, a good picture, you know,
Speaker 5: shake your hand or whatever, I do this show, there'd
Speaker 5: be like a line of people like wanting to tell
Speaker 5: me their stories, wanting to ask me questions. I'm like,
Speaker 5: this is something special, but I didn't know how to
Speaker 5: Whether or not there was an audience was completely dependent
Speaker 5: on how well the venue marketed because no one knew
Speaker 5: who I was. And I had some really nice artwork
Speaker 5: that caught the eye and everything else done by my
Speaker 5: good friend Ramin Naser, who's an amazing artist, and this
Speaker 5: poster that he made for me really helped.
Speaker 3: Just little things like that, tweaking.
Speaker 5: The name, and and and then I figured out I
Speaker 5: tried some Facebook ads and they were going like it
Speaker 5: was helping a little bit. I couldn't really tell. And
Speaker 5: then I actually had like this angel come into my life,
Speaker 5: this fan of mine, Matt Steinberg and Austin who taught
Speaker 5: my Austin show and believed in what I was doing.
Speaker 5: And he worked in the Facebook ads department and he
Speaker 5: just figured out for me how to target like the
Speaker 5: psychedelic community on Facebook. And ever since then, I've just
Speaker 5: been filling rooms and and so incredibly.
Speaker 4: An Austin comic, right, Michael Steinberg.
Speaker 5: No, Matt, Matt Steinberg And and so since then it's
Speaker 5: been successful. So it was like six months of figuring
Speaker 5: that out, and then after that it's been really successful.
Speaker 5: I use a lot of other weird tricks too, but
Speaker 5: and so because it's been so successful, my agent's like,
Speaker 5: let's let's put together a little tour. It's gonna be
Speaker 5: thirty cities at first and ended up being sixty five.
Speaker 5: So it's it's very exciting.
Speaker 3: This is the most exciting thing in my career.
Speaker 4: Like in October.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it starts October, the first Monday in October. That's
Speaker 5: the second or third starts in air Staff, Arizona.
Speaker 2: And you said you're driving, but you keep saying we
Speaker 2: or is someone going to be with you?
Speaker 3: Did I say we?
Speaker 2: Like when you were talking. You were saying, we were planning,
Speaker 2: Oh my agent and I okay, so are you driving
Speaker 2: by yourself?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I am I I uh, I wanted if I
Speaker 5: do this again next year with with like a follow
Speaker 5: up or something like that, I will hopefully be able
Speaker 5: to afford an RB because right now I have just
Speaker 5: a shitty I'm a baraque comic with a shitty uh.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, Hondai Lantra. That's been very good to me.
Speaker 4: Wait, it's a good year.
Speaker 2: That's my fit.
Speaker 5: But it's getting that mileage where it's like something's going
Speaker 5: to go wrong at some point and I don't want
Speaker 5: it to be on this tour, but it sucks to
Speaker 5: I would like just even just a van so I
Speaker 5: could just pull over and take a nap to split
Speaker 5: things up, or have a desk to write some jokes
Speaker 5: quick when you have ideas. It would be so amazing
Speaker 5: to have a closet so I don't need to have
Speaker 5: like iron my clothes all the time.
Speaker 3: Like there would be so many nice things. Now.
Speaker 5: It's like, if you're in your car, you want to
Speaker 5: take a nap. As I pull over in the rest
Speaker 5: area recline, you're you're still sitting in the same chair.
Speaker 5: It's not really a break for your back or whatever.
Speaker 5: So but yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 4: All the things you got to do.
Speaker 3: Stop bathroom, Yeah, all of the things.
Speaker 5: Just sitting there twiddling your thumbs on the other side
Speaker 5: of the glory hole.
Speaker 3: Come on, I need a recharge here. That's how I
Speaker 3: get my energy.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, like, yeah, I know, I have been there.
Speaker 4: Like pac Man, pac Man pellets, that's terrific.
Speaker 3: Have you ever played our player pac Man in the arcades.
Speaker 2: Tabletop?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got four things and you eat each other.
Speaker 5: It's the best arcade game I've.
Speaker 4: Seen a joysticks so great on each side.
Speaker 3: You go to Bridgetown a lot, right, how many festival?
Speaker 3: I never you don't do the arcade?
Speaker 2: Never went I never went to Do you not like
Speaker 2: that arcade?
Speaker 4: There was a line line I couldn't get in.
Speaker 3: Well, it's a good game. I have recommend it.
Speaker 2: It's a fun one. I played that one back.
Speaker 5: Five thousand dollars for one, Like I looked into whatever
Speaker 5: I would It cost five thousand dollars for one stupid game?
Speaker 3: Like why can't they.
Speaker 2: Just oh, they're taking because remember when Pete made his
Speaker 2: did you ever see that pac Man game Pete made.
Speaker 4: I made one of those two.
Speaker 2: Did you really?
Speaker 4: Just had the cabinet from an old arcade game? And
Speaker 4: I put my TV. I put my TV and and
Speaker 4: the joystick turned on the TV, and then where the
Speaker 4: coins were. It was where my VCR and and DVD.
Speaker 2: It was well even he actually reach you made a
Speaker 2: real one, like out of wood and whatever, like it
Speaker 2: looked like a real pac Man machine, but it was
Speaker 2: all of like sourced parts or whatever. And it probably
Speaker 2: cost him at the most five hundred dollars. And the
Speaker 2: fact so the fact that they're charging people five grand
Speaker 2: is purely like taking advantage of Richard. Oh yeah, rich
Speaker 2: like gen xers.
Speaker 5: Have you guys played I just played a few days ago,
Speaker 5: the Vibe the virtual reality. By the way, I'm not like,
Speaker 5: I love video games, but I'm not a gamer because
Speaker 5: if I ever own a system like, my life's just over.
Speaker 5: I'll just I'll die in front of the video games.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I've never been into video games either, but I
Speaker 4: have one skateboarding one on my phone and I can't
Speaker 4: stop I am every time I had there's a lull,
Speaker 4: I start playing it like a fifteen year old kid.
Speaker 5: Well, this vibe is like because there was the Octolus
Speaker 5: Rift or whatever, and there's a lot of problems with
Speaker 5: it because you get motion sickness and whatnot. But they
Speaker 5: corrected some of that and they made all the graphics better.
Speaker 5: And this thing is like I did this paint program.
Speaker 5: You just like you paint, you use a brush or
Speaker 5: sparks or whatever, and you're just like painting in the
Speaker 5: air and then you can walk through it and people
Speaker 5: like whole ships and then you can like walk inside
Speaker 5: and look around, and you can graffiti it and.
Speaker 3: All of this stuff.
Speaker 5: And there's like shooters and you're like taking a bow and
Speaker 5: arrow and pulling back and shooting it things and like
Speaker 5: dodging their stuff like the matrix and whatnot. It is
Speaker 5: the future is amazing. Play it with other people as well,
Speaker 5: Like you can play paintball games and stuff with other
Speaker 5: people online, trash talking and whatnot.
Speaker 2: Crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the future is incredible. I haven't seen it, but
Speaker 5: I guess the porn is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're standing in it in someone's room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're standing in their vagina.
Speaker 4: Learn how to be a proctologist, yeah, or I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: you know the OBG proper one duncan trestle the riff
Speaker 4: thing that like three years ago. I tried it on.
Speaker 4: It was like a sample mode and there was a
Speaker 4: house plant in the corner of this room that you
Speaker 4: look around. It's just like tron World. It just was
Speaker 4: expanded first, and then I looked under this plant and
Speaker 4: I could see under a leaf, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: that's too much for it was you can under there
Speaker 4: was a plan. I'm like, cool, a three D plant.
Speaker 4: And then I looked under it and there's like the
Speaker 4: veins of the waves and it scared the hell out.
Speaker 5: That's where I did it. Actually that he's upgraded a system.
Speaker 5: He has the new one.
Speaker 4: Yes. No, he was so into it that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, it's just him and in a deprivation chamber.
Speaker 3: Have you ever done all those deprivation chambers? No?
Speaker 4: He told me that we should, but I've been scared.
Speaker 2: When you're a Bridgetown, they gave away coupons to do
Speaker 2: I remember that. Yet I was like considering it. I
Speaker 2: kept going back and forth, and then I just was like,
Speaker 2: I just can't handle it.
Speaker 3: You know what, why don't you try it?
Speaker 5: I want to do an hour and a half and
Speaker 5: just have no no expectations for it, because you're probably
Speaker 5: just gonna think it's like a little laman boring, especially
Speaker 5: if you've never meditated. But aren't you meditating a little bit.
Speaker 2: Aren't you in the total dark in the water?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's great. I did it on
Speaker 5: mushrooms and it was the best trip that I've ever had.
Speaker 5: That was my fourth and last. The last float that
Speaker 5: I had was on mushrooms. It was was wonderful. But
Speaker 5: I've done it three other times without it. The first time,
Speaker 5: I was just like trying to meditate the whole time
Speaker 5: and it was great. It was like meditation, like on steroids.
Speaker 5: It was just a weird sounding thing to say. And
Speaker 5: then the second time I was I was just I
Speaker 5: got a little more used to it. And then the
Speaker 5: third time, I'm like, I'm just gonna let my mind
Speaker 5: do whatever it wants to do. I'm not going to
Speaker 5: worry about like trying to focus on my breathing or
Speaker 5: whatever be in there. And think I came up with
Speaker 5: all this great material and that I remember it afterwards
Speaker 5: and wrote down and it's part of my act now,
Speaker 5: And yeah, I think it's I think it's pretty good.
Speaker 5: It's so expensive. It's like it, I mean, it's I
Speaker 5: don't think I would ever do it again. I mean
Speaker 5: once in a while someone throws me a free float
Speaker 5: or something like that, because I've had like a flow
Speaker 5: guy on my podcast and whatnot.
Speaker 3: But it is really expensive.
Speaker 4: I was it's a hundred bucks.
Speaker 3: I think it's like seventy ish.
Speaker 5: I want to say, for like an hour and a
Speaker 5: half maybe, which is worth it.
Speaker 3: If you're on mushrooms. Otherwise I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: And you get a massage in the tank, Yeah, there's
Speaker 4: just someone in there and you can't see them, just
Speaker 4: some feet nice.
Speaker 2: Nice, I think. Well, I think part of my hesitation
Speaker 2: is because I have epilepsy or seize your disorders what
Speaker 2: they call it, and really modern.
Speaker 3: I've never met anyone with epilepsy before. I was excited.
Speaker 3: How often does it? How often do you get it?
Speaker 3: How often does it strike?
Speaker 2: My medicine controls it almost entirely. The only time I
Speaker 2: have auras is is if I miss like two doses
Speaker 2: in a row.
Speaker 3: Are you are you? Do you talk about it a lot?
Speaker 3: Are you sick of talking about it? I don't talk.
Speaker 3: When did you When did you first did you have
Speaker 3: it just right from like.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it was I. It was in the
Speaker 2: nineties when I drank, and so it was basically like
Speaker 2: the last night I drank, I just went home. I
Speaker 2: had been having seizures at night and I didn't know,
Speaker 2: so I was waking up with a bit and tongue.
Speaker 2: And then one day I woke up and I was
Speaker 2: talking on the phone to somebody and I said, it's
Speaker 2: so weird. I keep biting my tongue at night. It's
Speaker 2: like really hard, like right now, I can barely even talk.
Speaker 2: And I turned around on the phone and there was
Speaker 2: a spray of blood on the wall next to my bed,
Speaker 2: and I just went and got a sponge and wiped
Speaker 2: it off and never told anybody and never like I
Speaker 2: just was like that didn't happen. And then probably like
Speaker 2: four months later or so, I Kristin Barrant was staying
Speaker 2: with me, Greg's sister, and I had a seizure and
Speaker 2: she was there, so she called nine one one. So
Speaker 2: I woke up like I in sleep. I remember my
Speaker 2: eyes pulling really hard in this weird sensation and like
Speaker 2: going into it, and I was really scared and tense,
Speaker 2: and then some weird voice in my mind was like
Speaker 2: just let go. There's nothing you can do, like, don't
Speaker 2: fight this, you have to like just relax. And so
Speaker 2: that's when I had like it was a full uh
Speaker 2: what do you call it? The uh with the terminology shit,
Speaker 2: it's there's different types. There's all different types. And I
Speaker 2: had the big one, Grandma. And then when I woke up,
Speaker 2: I was surrounded by EMTs like do you know your name?
Speaker 2: Do you know what a day it is? It was
Speaker 2: full on, and then I had to go to the hospital.
Speaker 2: I was in the hospital for four days, and the
Speaker 2: doctors thought it was from drinking because I was twenty seven,
Speaker 2: so I was a complete alcoholic and had taken speed
Speaker 2: like diet pills about two years before. And I think
Speaker 2: that gave me heart damage. I'm pretty sure, because they
Speaker 2: say sometimes that's a connection. If you have something wrong
Speaker 2: with your heart, you'll have seizures.
Speaker 4: Didn't you say it happened while you're driving once.
Speaker 2: Or you just were it has but not full seizure,
Speaker 2: just my eyes basically my aura, which is the thing that.
Speaker 4: Starts luckily right by an exit or something.
Speaker 2: Didn't you just yes, that's the right It was on
Speaker 2: the I was that time. I was on the one
Speaker 2: thirty four in the center lane, and my aura, which
Speaker 2: is the first thing that starts happening before a full seizure.
Speaker 2: Some people smell things or sea lights or whatever. Mine is.
Speaker 2: My eyes start looking up to the left again. My
Speaker 2: will like I'm not doing it. And so yeah, I
Speaker 2: was driving up the one thirty four and it started happening,
Speaker 2: and like when it happens, I turned my head because
Speaker 2: my eyes pulled so hard that like it's just natural
Speaker 2: that you have your head turns. And I was driving
Speaker 2: and going like this, and I knew that that Koanga
Speaker 2: exit was right there, and so I just cut over
Speaker 2: like three lanes of traffic and there was no one there.
Speaker 2: You didn't crash, miracle of God. There were no other
Speaker 2: cars in three lanes. And I got off and I
Speaker 2: was going to do a Jane Wilson's show at that church,
Speaker 2: have a podcast.
Speaker 3: Were you the driver?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we never told anybody.
Speaker 3: I was thinking that even before you met.
Speaker 2: But I mean by the time we said this, my
Speaker 2: seizures have been controlled by medicine for uh it almost
Speaker 2: twenty years. I mean like a super long time.
Speaker 5: I would never you haven't had a single one in
Speaker 5: the twenty years I have medicated.
Speaker 2: I definitely have. I like when I got my wisdom
Speaker 2: teeth pulled, I was taking painkillers viking in which was
Speaker 2: making me throw up, so I couldn't keep medicine down.
Speaker 2: So after three days of that, I had a full seizure. Yeah,
Speaker 2: It's happened here and there, and it's always because I'm
Speaker 2: not ingesting the medicine or something happens with her strobe light.
Speaker 2: I've never had a seizure because of a strobe light.
Speaker 2: I just avoid them.
Speaker 4: Because I thought you said that. Every time I see
Speaker 4: a strobe light and it's sudden, like it a Halloween
Speaker 4: of knots, very firm scare.
Speaker 3: Week or whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's what they call it. But there'll
Speaker 4: be just a strobe light, and I'm like, that's careless.
Speaker 4: What if someone's epileptic.
Speaker 2: You just could close your eyes. That's what I never
Speaker 2: I close my eyes every time because because it's a
Speaker 2: weird thing. That's the way they test you when you
Speaker 2: get like EEGs or whatever they do. There's a strobe
Speaker 2: test where they start to induce a seizure to study your.
Speaker 5: So so so that first time that it happened, and
Speaker 5: your friend was there. Your eyes went back and you
Speaker 5: then lost consciousness, yes, right away, and so you were
Speaker 5: just having a seizure for ten minutes and you don't
Speaker 5: remember any of that.
Speaker 2: No, I only remember the beginning. So I was conscious
Speaker 2: for the first thirty forty five seconds maybe, uh. And
Speaker 2: it's super It's just tension. It's like crazy full body
Speaker 2: muscular engagement. And it's like it just feels like your
Speaker 2: brain is sparking, you know, because it's all of your
Speaker 2: it's all the energy, all the synapses are going at
Speaker 2: one time, and so it's just that and then just
Speaker 2: really jerky pully body and then there's just like a
Speaker 2: I just get really calm, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like it's the same thing happened to me once when
Speaker 2: I got caught in a wave in Hawaii and I
Speaker 2: was just like it was like I was in a
Speaker 2: washing machine. I was super panicked, and then I just
Speaker 2: got crazy calm. It's just like it'll be over, do
Speaker 2: not like, do not expend energy, just like and I
Speaker 2: just and it's the same thing where it's like high
Speaker 2: high panic and then it's just like let it go.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, then I woke up and she said
Speaker 2: she heard she thought I was choking, and so when
Speaker 2: she came over, my lips were blue. She was so
Speaker 2: freaked out. I mean, it scared the shit out of her.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure it's completely different, but I've had
Speaker 5: DMT trips where I have, like because I really go
Speaker 5: for it sometimes and smoke as much as I can.
Speaker 5: So you can't have like, you can't overdose on it.
Speaker 5: It's just really hard to like get enough in it
Speaker 5: to like a lot of times people don't have the
Speaker 5: full on thing. But there's been times where I think,
Speaker 5: I like I overdid it a little bit. And there's
Speaker 5: been like like where I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, I like, I feel.
Speaker 5: Like I'm gonna have a fucking seizure or something coming on.
Speaker 5: It's only happened like twice out of ninety times or whatever.
Speaker 5: And then I but there'll there'll be a voice like
Speaker 5: it's okay, just just relax.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's when you said that, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: that's strange.
Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, I don't know if that's
Speaker 2: I don't know why that would be, but I it
Speaker 2: feels to me it makes sense that like in like
Speaker 2: when you're in a worrisome situation or like a panic situation.
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you're experiencing it, you're freaking out, your
Speaker 2: free you're having all these reactions, and then it gets
Speaker 2: to a point where, like for me, I've had a
Speaker 2: couple things like that where it's like so scary that
Speaker 2: then there's just a little bit of like pull you you,
Speaker 2: you pull in. It's like your reptilian brain is like no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: Like we're not doing this anymore, is what it feels
Speaker 2: like to me. We're just like shut it all down
Speaker 2: for a little bit and then you can come back later.
Speaker 4: Because this is too much. You just lost your.
Speaker 2: Tail and you're real, real scared.
Speaker 4: Yeah wow, yeah, I feel like I haven't had any experiences.
Speaker 2: Well know you hear all your hip things.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, well, you're in pain all the time.
Speaker 5: You're into a little you're into mushrooms and l's steel
Speaker 5: ittle bit.
Speaker 4: Right fourth July.
Speaker 3: Oh that's it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for our country to celebrate our future.
Speaker 5: You should try one time to stare at the flag
Speaker 5: and watch the colors.
Speaker 4: They don't run, but they the hell don't.
Speaker 5: You should try just just with a with a close
Speaker 5: friend or maybe even by yourself.
Speaker 4: I'd do it like with my dad if I could
Speaker 4: talk him into it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, do d m T No, No, not DM DMT
Speaker 5: is not like a bonding experience.
Speaker 3: It's like you're you're buyers.
Speaker 4: I don't like the mushroom thing. I don't like. I
Speaker 4: don't socially, I don't. I feel like I should be
Speaker 4: in the woods.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah with a.
Speaker 4: Friend or something. Yeah, but I don't like it, like
Speaker 4: at my fourth do like no.
Speaker 5: No, yeah, I know that's what I'm saying, Like, that's
Speaker 5: really not the best. If that's the only time you're
Speaker 5: not getting like the full picture of.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it was.
Speaker 2: In your life.
Speaker 3: Really good parties are amazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really fun.
Speaker 3: That was That was fantam.
Speaker 4: You were up at seven in the morning.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 4: I woke up. I just to make sure there weren't
Speaker 4: strangers in the because one guy threatened to pull out
Speaker 4: a gun and everything. And I was in my room
Speaker 4: hiding and I came out and you were still like
Speaker 4: wide awake and party and.
Speaker 5: It's yeah, yeah, I did at a fair amount of
Speaker 5: psychedelics that evening.
Speaker 2: Well, wait was everybody partying till seven?
Speaker 5: There was a scroup left. Yeah, I wasn't just hanging
Speaker 5: out with my shof.
Speaker 4: I'm just glad you guys were there because because you're
Speaker 4: having fun and the party was continuing, which gave me pride.
Speaker 4: And then the doors and windows were wide open, and
Speaker 4: I just thought I'd come out and there'd be bandits
Speaker 4: and just a gang of raccoons putting all our forks
Speaker 4: and a satchel.
Speaker 2: These are ours now forks, so we need those, Nate, What.
Speaker 4: Do I do with this worthless laptop? Yeah? That shit, man,
Speaker 4: Let's do drugs, guys.
Speaker 2: Guys, I can't. I can't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited for Do you sell these books?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: These are adult coloring books slash trip journals that I saw,
Speaker 5: so I have. There's an organization that's the biggest research
Speaker 5: psychedelic research organization in the US, maybe in the world,
Speaker 5: called called MAPS, the Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies. And
Speaker 5: I had some of their people on my podcast, so
Speaker 5: some of their researchers. They're trying to get MDMA approved.
Speaker 5: There in the last stage of getting MTMA approved for
Speaker 5: clinical use for people with PTSD.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 5: And because what it does is it it inhibits blood
Speaker 5: flow to the amigdala, which is like your fight or
Speaker 5: fight kind of response, and which is what PTSD have
Speaker 5: have overactive, like the one little trigger, and all of
Speaker 5: a sudden, this thing lights up and it's just too
Speaker 5: much for them, and they like stop thinking about it,
Speaker 5: and then they repress it too much. And then once
Speaker 5: you repress it so much, it'll just bubble out and
Speaker 5: project into the non conscious work or the into your
Speaker 5: conscious world, and that's why you have hallucinations and stuff sometimes.
Speaker 3: When it's really severe.
Speaker 5: But so it inhibits blood flow to the prefrontal cortex
Speaker 5: and then it increases it or the amigdala, and then
Speaker 5: it increases it to the prefrontal cortex, which is like
Speaker 5: your decision making functions and does a lot of your
Speaker 5: higher processes. Kind of we're all these big fancy thoughts
Speaker 5: of ours, the kind of later on an evolution, our
Speaker 5: fanciest ones, all these big words.
Speaker 4: Water slide on a boat.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so so people are able to then be
Speaker 5: kind of walked through all of these things that they
Speaker 5: normally just can't handle thinking about in a way and
Speaker 5: they're able to process it more. And that's really almost
Speaker 5: people need is just to be able to figure out
Speaker 5: a way to process it.
Speaker 2: And talk about it without being triggered.
Speaker 5: Yeah and so, so the organization is actually a sponsor
Speaker 5: of my tour and yeah and so, and they've been
Speaker 5: on my podcast several times from the researchers. And so,
Speaker 5: I forget the question that got me into that. Originally
Speaker 5: it was about oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, about this,
Speaker 5: about this trip journal and adult coloring book. So one
Speaker 5: I just thought it was kind of a brilliant idea anyway,
Speaker 5: and then Remine. I have Romine Nser who edits my podcast,
Speaker 5: and he's just an amazing artist in general. And so
Speaker 5: one of the things when you're having like a bad
Speaker 5: trip at a music, big music festival, they'll have tents,
Speaker 5: like there's this organization Zendo that that maps has and
Speaker 5: you go in and they just they just kind of
Speaker 5: give you a safe place to kind of relate a
Speaker 5: bad trip. There's no like medical intervention needed. You just
Speaker 5: need a place where you can just kind of process
Speaker 5: things and not panic so much and and calm down
Speaker 5: a little bit. And one of the things that they
Speaker 5: do is like they'll give people coloring books and whatnot
Speaker 5: because it gives them like a little something to focus on.
Speaker 3: So that was part of the thinking of of having
Speaker 3: this too.
Speaker 5: And and I like the idea of journaling during a
Speaker 5: trip to so yeah, that's the buss.
Speaker 2: That's very cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'll do so. I have a joke about like.
Speaker 5: People being talking about like universal love and whatnot when
Speaker 5: they when they're tripping, and so that's what this this
Speaker 5: like a universe of hearts in there. So it's all
Speaker 5: based on on my act. It's pretty neat.
Speaker 4: That is the neatest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just got them.
Speaker 4: What's monkey with these melting this vomits vomit goblin.
Speaker 3: About like thinking about cops well on acid. You'd have
Speaker 3: to see that. That's great, Yeah, every one of them.
Speaker 5: Once you've seen the act, you'll understand all of those
Speaker 5: different This is this Christmas one.
Speaker 3: So there's a there's a.
Speaker 5: Mushroom amanita mescalia or something like that that I first
Speaker 5: found out about it because someone people come up to
Speaker 5: me after show and tell me about all these weird
Speaker 5: drugs I've never heard of. So apparently this mushroom you
Speaker 5: eat it does nothing to you at all. But then
Speaker 5: if you collect your urine and drink it, you trip
Speaker 5: your bulls. But and I haven't tried that one yet.
Speaker 4: Does Christmas come into that?
Speaker 3: So I didn't.
Speaker 5: I thought they were making it up. So I looked
Speaker 5: into it and it turns out that they think that.
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of a lot of people have
Speaker 5: these ideas which I don't really subscribe to, that are
Speaker 5: about that psychedelics. We're kind of the foundation of a
Speaker 5: lot of a lot of modern religions and a lot
Speaker 5: of modern myths. So this mushroom they think is responsible
Speaker 5: for the Santa Claus myth because it's a red and
Speaker 5: white mushroom that grows under conifer trees, and they would
Speaker 5: they would like it would be this gift that you
Speaker 5: would give for like to have the ceremony in one
Speaker 5: of the things that they do to test if the
Speaker 5: mushrooms were good. If they trip, they would give them
Speaker 5: they were reindeer herders, they'd give them the reindeer, and
Speaker 5: if they were worked, the reindeer would start jumping up
Speaker 5: and down, like really high. And so they think that's
Speaker 5: it's not it's not. I'm not saying I.
Speaker 3: Believe that, but it's just a fun little thing.
Speaker 5: So that's that's the story of that picture. So every
Speaker 5: every picture has a little story to it.
Speaker 4: That's just a story about animals.
Speaker 2: No, they it's not abuse because they fucking love it.
Speaker 2: I love getting high. They think it's the greatest.
Speaker 3: Animals love getting high, my cat.
Speaker 5: Have you seen have you ever seen like monkeys getting drunk.
Speaker 5: There's this great if you just put in monkeys getting drunk.
Speaker 5: There's this resort area in some country and that has
Speaker 5: monkeys around, and the monkeys will just run up and
Speaker 5: like grab someone's drink from them and drink it. And
Speaker 5: they found that they found that these monkeys have have
Speaker 5: the exact same kind of percentage of alcoholism as humans.
Speaker 5: So you have some monkeys that like, try it once
Speaker 5: and don't touch it, won't touch the stuff. Have some
Speaker 5: monkeys they're like, I'll have a drink here and there
Speaker 5: you know it's dried. And then you have some monkeys
Speaker 5: that are just raging alcoholics out of control, and it's
Speaker 5: like the exact same percentage as humans. So that's like
Speaker 5: the kind of stuff that I'm into and I talk
Speaker 5: about on my Here we Are podcast. I just basically
Speaker 5: if there's something I don't know about, like say seizures,
Speaker 5: which I know nothing about, I'm interested in. I just
Speaker 5: try to find a researcher in one of the cities
Speaker 5: that I'm traveling to, or I make a list of
Speaker 5: people and topics I'm interested in, and I look them
Speaker 5: up and get them on my show to have them
Speaker 5: explain it to me.
Speaker 3: So that's that's terrific.
Speaker 4: Wow. I hope there's a monkey out there that only
Speaker 4: smokes when you drink. I know, these old things.
Speaker 2: I want to quit, but I can't.
Speaker 4: That's a class. I love the fifties footage of forcing
Speaker 4: monkeys to smoke.
Speaker 3: You didn't have to force them for too long. I
Speaker 3: don't think you have to.
Speaker 4: You're being a dick and a lapto at that point, and.
Speaker 2: You also have to put a leather jacket on them
Speaker 2: to complete the picture. Well. You usually at the end
Speaker 2: of our podcast we ask people to give us plugs.
Speaker 2: I feel like you've done.
Speaker 3: The entire time. Yeah, I will pro.
Speaker 4: Pro Yeah that was.
Speaker 2: It was very conversational.
Speaker 5: So how yeah, I mean, it's it's like a show
Speaker 5: that I'm so excited about. So it's like easy and talk.
Speaker 5: It's just like you know, when you're like sick of
Speaker 5: your act and stuff, which I'll probably be sick of
Speaker 5: this by the end of the tour, I imagine. But
Speaker 5: it's just you know, you know that special time when
Speaker 5: you're like actually excited all together and you're like, so
Speaker 5: that's where I am right.
Speaker 2: You're doing?
Speaker 4: How do people find it?
Speaker 5: Just as Shane Moss m a U s s dot
Speaker 5: com and you can go on there and check all
Speaker 5: the dates.
Speaker 3: It's sixty five cities if you live in the US.
Speaker 4: I'm any I've had trouble with your And then m
Speaker 4: a U S S sounds like m O S S.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I actually spell some people pronounce some people
Speaker 5: have the same spelling and pronounce it the mouse.
Speaker 4: Get out of here with your mouse ship.
Speaker 3: But that's but that's like I know this.
Speaker 5: There's this German scientist who is here now and pronounces
Speaker 5: it that way, and it's a German name. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 5: she's probably right. Then I think I'm I think maybe
Speaker 5: I've been saying it wrong.
Speaker 2: You're in America.
Speaker 4: It's just her weird Nazi accent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, German on this.
Speaker 3: Podcast, they did they were not.
Speaker 2: Shake a finger, a judgmental finger at the Germans.
Speaker 5: Everyone.
Speaker 3: You don't want to.
Speaker 2: Slip It was only a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: It wasn't that long.
Speaker 2: It really wasn't shocking.
Speaker 4: And I've forgiven them.
Speaker 2: You're such a good person, yea.
Speaker 3: Yourself.
Speaker 2: You know what I forgive. Nazi ladies and gentlemen, this
Speaker 2: has been.
Speaker 4: Do you need a ride? E y n A?
Speaker 2: Are you leaving? I?
Speaker 1: You wanna way back home? Either way we want to
Speaker 1: be there, doesn't matter how much baggage you claim, and
Speaker 1: give us time and a turmanal and gay.
Speaker 2: We want to send you off inside.
Speaker 1: We want to welcome you back home. Tell us all
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: We scared her? Was it fine?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 6: Porn?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?
Speaker 4: Do you need to ride with Karen and chriss
Speaker 5: Mm hm