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Speaker 1: Are you leaving a you wanna way back home? Either way,

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Speaker 1: we want to be there, doesn't matter how much baggage

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Speaker 2: Do you wanna welcome you back home?

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Speaker 3: Tell us all about it?

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Speaker 2: We scared her?

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Speaker 3: Was it fine?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: Porn?

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Speaker 4: Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 2: Do you need ride?

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Speaker 4: With Karen and Chris? Welcome to Do you need to ride?

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Speaker 2: This is Chris Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgaroff.

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Speaker 4: I've been saying kill Griff, No you haven't. No, I know.

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Speaker 4: We're joined by my friend Shane Moss.

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Speaker 3: Hey, hey, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 2: Of course, thanks for coming and being an official guest.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Oh are there unofficial guests?

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Speaker 4: Yes. Every once in a while there's just people roaming

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Speaker 4: around the hallways.

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Speaker 2: We have to.

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Speaker 4: Drift your people.

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Speaker 2: We feel obligated, right social contract, Yeah, as duty to

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Speaker 2: your community, our podcast community.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, it's mostly podcast people wandering around.

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Speaker 3: Oh not just like janitors and stuff like that.

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Speaker 4: And they're like, I thought I was scheduled today and

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Speaker 4: it's like, no, do you want to be our guest?

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Speaker 4: Let's really so, it's not that charitable.

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Speaker 2: No, it's very selfish, very selfish.

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Speaker 4: It's perfect timing.

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Speaker 5: How have you been, I've been wonderful. I've been I've

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Speaker 5: been busy. I'm planning my sixty five city tour, which

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Speaker 2: Name them all right now, yes, But.

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Speaker 5: It starts and I could it would take a long

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Speaker 5: But it starts in Arizona, and then I go straight

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Speaker 5: I'm from Wisconsin originally and there for Christmas, and we

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Speaker 5: the booking of the tour has been easier than we thought.

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Speaker 4: So if you're in Wisconsin and you start in Arizona,

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Speaker 2: Right, that's smart.

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Speaker 5: Some of those flights I'm driving, I'm driving the whole thing.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be like three hours of driving every day.

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Speaker 4: For ever done have you done tours like that where.

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Speaker 5: I've done like fifteen or twenty cities with this. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'm a club comic usually. And then this show that

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Speaker 5: I have about psychedelics called a Good Trip all sorts

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Speaker 5: I started it as like my I told my agent

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Speaker 4: It's how Larry the Cable Guy got started. He was

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Speaker 3: To see him have it.

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Speaker 2: Talk me through it, crack that Jeff be my courtison

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Speaker 2: It makes me feel like television is really starting not

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Speaker 3: I'm of course.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people that find laughing because of their age painful.

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Speaker 4: Light other way.

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Speaker 4: You know what happens with my lakad Jevelyn.

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Speaker 2: I need something to bridge out of Fox News and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, great voters, great voters, and you were when you

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Speaker 5: Tapping the pokey is the cutest way I've ever heard heroin.

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Speaker 5: Dimethyl Trip to mean more people know of ayahuasca seems

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I gave Mike DMT for his first time actually,

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Speaker 3: Well I'm like, yeah, all paranoid and start shutting.

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Speaker 5: It's been too long, and he went smoked a dab

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00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 5: and then he was just normal again.

446
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 3: And that function with a bad signs.

447
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 4: They're the opener for Larry the Cable guy. I think

448
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 4: he quit the Shannon McLaughlan guy. Do you remember him? No,

449
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 4: he was a younger. He had a bad hip. I

450
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 4: have a bad hip. He had a bad but he

451
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 4: got high before every show and he insisted that he

452
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 4: needed it. He was a great comic, but he got high.

453
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,399
Speaker 4: And it scared the hell out of me that he

454
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 4: was dependent on being high. Yeah, he did stand up,

455
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:32,639
Speaker 4: but that scares me.

456
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 3: Yeah. Have you ever been high on stage?

457
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 4: A couple of times and it was not fun?

458
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I've done it probably twenty times, and most

459
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 5: of them like kind of goof off shows where I

460
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 5: didn't like there's just like a goof off in passing

461
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 5: like I was. I was just kind of stopping through

462
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 5: on my way to do other things, to do a

463
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 5: quick spot when I do a.

464
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Speaker 4: Big show in Vegas. Hop he's so horrified.

465
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Speaker 5: I think I've had like ten good experiences in ten

466
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 5: pretty very uncomfortable experiences, and it's just not worth that

467
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 5: chance at all.

468
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 4: I think you can get into a rhythm and feel

469
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 4: like you're oh, I have opened something up. I am

470
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 4: saying things that maybe I'd be apprehensive about. But then

471
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 4: you get stopped and your brain will go, how about

472
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 4: you just a blank for a half a minute. Yeah,

473
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 4: I can't remember any of your thoughts. And that's what

474
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 4: makes me mad about weed. I hate that you can't.

475
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 4: I want to get into it because you know, I'd

476
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 4: like to be a person that doesn't drink for a

477
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 4: long time. You drink, right, and then you stopped.

478
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Speaker 3: I stopped for like three years.

479
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Speaker 5: I drink again now, Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, I

480
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 5: quit for like three and I drink for the most

481
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 5: part like a normal person now. And I mean I

482
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 5: have some wild nights here and there, but I haven't

483
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 5: gotten myself into any trouble. I haven't had any like

484
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 5: red flags or anything since I've started drinking again. It

485
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 5: was when I it was so I broke my feet

486
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago and both.

487
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, can tell that story.

488
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I I was.

489
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 5: I was hiking. I made an album about it called

490
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 5: My Big Break. I like, like I said, I like

491
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 5: doing themed things. But yeah, I was hiking with a friend.

492
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 5: I was in the best shape of my life. I

493
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 5: hadn't been drinking for at least two years. I never like,

494
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 5: I didn't like mark my calendar. I wasn't in La

495
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 5: getting chips or anything like that. I just didn't feel

496
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 5: like it, and it felt like it was affecting my life.

497
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 5: But I hadn't hadn't smoked cigarettes in like three years,

498
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 5: and and I'd been working. I was like way into

499
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 5: rock climbing, and for like the first time in my

500
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 5: entire life. I've never been in shape in my entire life.

501
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 5: And I had about a year where I was in

502
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 5: like really great shape and and just way too much confidence.

503
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 5: And I was hiking in Sedona, Arizona with a friend

504
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 5: who wanted to take this shortcut that his that is,

505
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 5: his wife would never let him take. And here's here

506
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,479
Speaker 5: was part of the problem too. He was like this big,

507
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 5: he has like four hundred pounds. Like his whole life,

508
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 5: he's been like crazy obese and then he he did this,

509
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 5: but he's a really really really strange dude and he's

510
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 5: like married to a psychic and stuff, and he he

511
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 5: decided to he looked up this like bulletproof diet sort

512
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 5: of thing or something like that. Well, he just drank

513
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 5: coffee with butter in it. Yeah, and didn't eat for like,

514
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 5: I think it was like thirty days or something like that,

515
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 5: and he.

516
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Speaker 3: Lost all of his weight. Yeah, like just like that.

517
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 4: He lost us.

518
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, who knows how much.

519
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 4: Lemon and cayenne thing for fifteen days?

520
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: And I felt like, you didn't eat anything?

521
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 4: No, I just drank the lemon.

522
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 5: What is that? Like?

523
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 4: It was a man. There's pine cones shooting out of it.

524
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 4: I was like, well that was cancer also. But and

525
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 4: I had energy and I wasn't after a while. After

526
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 4: seven days of it, I wasn't really hungry, but it

527
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 4: was a frantic energy like that. I didn't know what

528
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 4: to do with it. And I could tell my arm

529
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 4: my muscles.

530
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's supposed to be some ketosis thing and stuff like,

531
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 5: it's not an area of science that I know anything.

532
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 4: To feel whatever that is. But I could tell that

533
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 4: my muscles were welting away. But my guts. Like I

534
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 4: it was like my body had become a filtration system. Yeah,

535
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 4: I was coming.

536
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: Out at this point or something like that.

537
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: No, not really five pounds or something.

538
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 5: Because if I don't like have five pounds to lose,

539
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 5: if I want to like add weight, I've been freakishly

540
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 5: skinny my whole life. I'm self conscious about it. And

541
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 5: uh and that would that would worry me. I mean,

542
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 5: I get the idea of I mean, we do put

543
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 5: a lot of garbage in us, and like the idea

544
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 5: of a cleanse sounds like a but it seemed it

545
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:00,639
Speaker 5: also sees is a real.

546
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 4: Crazy They're call in all that stuff that was good. Well,

547
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,120
Speaker 4: I've never heard in the butter coffee.

548
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: Well you know what's cool about that is the butter

549
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: coffee thing, because I tried that bulletproof coffee one time,

550
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: and there was something about it. Because I have am

551
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: I quit sugar recently, and it's a hard thing to do.

552
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 2: But once you do it, especially if you're an overweight person,

553
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: want you lose the craving of sugar and that which

554
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: is the thing that keeps you compulsively eating. And once

555
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 2: that's gone, it's the weirdest feeling to not have that

556
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: like monkey on your back that it's easy.

557
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: We're addicted to sugar, no doubt about it.

558
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think it's there's like an allergy when

559
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: you're like a person that becomes obese and has that

560
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: kind of system. It's like this allergy where you can't

561
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 2: have any because the amount you have, it's like you

562
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: exponentially want to eat more and more of anything just

563
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: to get the sugar in you. So once you're clean

564
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,719
Speaker 2: of it, like if you did bulletproof coffee for twenty

565
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: thirty days and then that would totally be out of

566
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 2: your system, and then it would be like, yeah, you

567
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: can drop all the way you want because you don't

568
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 2: have like the addiction anymore.

569
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 5: I will say, in like my health kick, I did

570
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 5: because I was in CrossFit in the place I was

571
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 5: at this whole life challenge thing and I was like,

572
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,439
Speaker 5: I didn't want to do it. I wasn't interested, and

573
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 5: they just kind of like bullied me into it basically.

574
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 5: And I was trying to be very open minded and

575
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 5: I wasn't interested in dieting or anything like that because

576
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 5: I eat healthy enough anyway. But I did there very strict,

577
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,159
Speaker 5: like you know, no sugar, no artificial stuff. And it

578
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 5: was like very I don't know, it was very Why

579
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 5: am I forgetting like paleo ish?

580
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: I guess yeah yeah.

581
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 5: And and and it was I have to admit, the

582
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 5: best I ever felt in my entire life. I had

583
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: so much energy. I was so sharp and smart, like

584
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 5: I think now. I mean, I I do feel foggy sometimes,

585
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 5: just like eating if I eat, if I'm on the road,

586
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 5: and you know, I got this. I'm worried about this

587
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 5: tour because when you're driving like that, you don't want

588
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 5: to eat.

589
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: I want to keep going destination.

590
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I definitely it does create like some sort

591
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 5: of fog in my head.

592
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: Oh it's terrible. It's poison. It causes inflammation, and it

593
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: makes your brain swell up and all all your other

594
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: shits swell up. It's I mean, I'm like the weird

595
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: born again frission about it now, because I'm like, oo's

596
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm just.

597
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 4: So happy you feel great and look great.

598
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 2: Thank you. I definitely feel great. I like so much.

599
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: I was like just constantly sleeping. I was basically just

600
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 2: like always eating sugar and sleeping all the time. And

601
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: I was like, this is bad.

602
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 5: Sleeping's good. For the most part, it's good for you.

603
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 5: I love naps. Naps are I think there should be

604
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 5: more napping. I don't think people realize how great naps are.

605
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: It's the best, except for when you do a too

606
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: long one and then you're just fucked.

607
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: I do about I do about twenty five minutes.

608
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 2: Oh, like if you fall asleep for three hours in

609
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 2: the middle of the day, and then like when I

610
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: wake up, I don't know where I am and I

611
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: don't know my.

612
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 4: Last I love when I take an afternoon nap and

613
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 4: I wake up right around bedtime. That's the worst feeling.

614
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 4: When I was in Spain, though, the restaurants closed at three,

615
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 4: like at CSTA time, and they everyone went and took naps.

616
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really good for the brain. People will really

617
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 5: underestimate what the non conscious brain is doing.

618
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: When I work.

619
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Speaker 5: I do this like Palmodoro technique, which is very simple.

620
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 5: It's just you got to find your range. But it's

621
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 5: like around twenty to thirty minutes where you just focus on.

622
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 5: And also twenty thirty minutes doesn't seem like a very

623
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 5: long time to just like Okay, I'll just clean or

624
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 5: study this or whatever for thirty minutes or whatever, and

625
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 5: that's it, and then you stop.

626
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: You just have to stop. Don't push it past that.

627
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 5: And then you just take like a five or ten

628
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 5: minute break and do whatever you want yourself with other things,

629
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 5: get your mind off of it for five or ten minutes,

630
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 5: come back to it, and then just keep on doing

631
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 5: that throughout the day, because your non conscious brain's doing

632
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 5: all the work. It's what's coming up with. You know,

633
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 5: you're grinding out a joker, you have some good joke idea,

634
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 5: and then you're like, or you have a bad joke

635
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 5: idea rather, and then you're like, screw that, you forget

636
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 5: about it. You just like, that'll never work. That doesn't

637
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 5: enter your mind again. A month later, it pops back

638
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 5: into your head, just the best idea that you've ever had, Like,

639
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 5: what's it doing down there?

640
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: You know?

641
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 5: And so you need you need to give that non

642
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 5: conscious Yeah.

643
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 4: I don't know. Is there a pamphy of a pamphlet?

644
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah?

645
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 2: What it's the Pomodorum.

646
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 5: Even Yeah, it's a you can look it up. It's

647
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 5: pretty it's pretty simple.

648
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: Just giving your full attention to one thing.

649
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, for for just for anything you want.

650
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 5: So I'll have like a to do list or whatever,

651
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 5: so I'll be like, Okay, this one I'll do for

652
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 5: I usually set my alarm for like twenty three minutes,

653
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 5: and then when it goes off, I can keep working

654
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 5: for like five minutes if I'm like writing in the

655
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 5: flow of something, and then just take a break. And

656
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 5: so with my with my science podcast. The easiest way

657
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 5: for me to keep up with because I have a

658
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 5: broad array of topics is I take as many like

659
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 5: online courses as I can.

660
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: I don't do homework or anything.

661
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 5: I just watch the lectures and try to just get

662
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 5: a brief synopsis of the information. And I took this

663
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 5: class learning how to Learn through course Era, and they

664
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 5: talked a lot about that.

665
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: That's that's where I got that problem.

666
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 5: But I've I've talked with other scientists have told me

667
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 5: that they use it as well.

668
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 3: It works really well. And because I have a hard time,

669
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: like if you're like, okay, I got to do.

670
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 5: This whole to do list, well, if that's like eight

671
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 5: hour like just to get motivated, you'll put it off

672
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 5: and put it off. But to do like twenty thirty

673
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 5: minutes of work, like anyone will sit down and.

674
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that absolutely, So let's go back to my feet. Yeah,

675
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: friend is so he.

676
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 5: So, I guess it's not that crazy what he did

677
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 5: to do this weird diet, but and he's feeling the

678
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 5: best he's ever felt in his life. He's been this

679
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 5: huge person his whole life, and now all of a sudden,

680
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 5: he's normal.

681
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 4: Say it was three four hundred, how big?

682
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 3: I think he was close to four hundred.

683
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 5: That's a big that's a person and now and then

684
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 5: he got down to like a little over two hundred

685
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 5: I think. And so for the first time in his life,

686
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 5: like he could do stuff. And so he's getting really

687
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 5: active and doing all this jiu jitsu and like all

688
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 5: this other stuff, and even started doing a little bit

689
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 5: of rock climbing, and but he didn't know how high

690
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 5: he could jump from because he just had never been

691
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 5: able to like jump off things before, and he thought

692
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 5: he was Superman, and so he was like convinced that

693
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 5: this one jump would be okay down to the shortcut

694
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 5: and I was like, ah, that's too high, and he's like.

695
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 3: No, no, we can make it.

696
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 5: And I was like ah, and he's like really committed

697
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 5: to it, and I was like, well, why don't I

698
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 5: at least try it? First, because I can. I've been jumping, yeah,

699
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 5: I've been, like, and I love heights. I'm not averse

700
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 5: to heights. And I was in great shape, too much confidence,

701
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 5: and I tried it and I broke both my heels

702
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 5: and one of them exploded, and I had to crawl

703
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 5: down the mountain for a few hours, which sucked because

704
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 5: it's too steep for anyone to really help me.

705
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 3: And uh, yeah, kind of uh.

706
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 4: You had when I saw you. I saw you in

707
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 4: the airport somewhere.

708
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a wheelchair, wasn't I.

709
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 4: At that point you had you were walking around, but

710
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 4: your feet had this open.

711
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 3: Oh, I had the vacuum.

712
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 4: I maintained some open wound.

713
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, So so the break wasn't I mean it was.

714
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 5: It was the worst part, but like more shit hit

715
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 5: the fan afterwards.

716
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: So I had to.

717
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 5: I couldn't care for myself. And in my place. You

718
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 5: were at my old place in Malibu. Yeah, you know,

719
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 5: it has all the steps to get up, so I couldn't,

720
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 5: like there's no way I could like get groceries up

721
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 5: or anything. So I had to move into my parents'

722
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 5: basement for three months and have them take care of me.

723
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 5: And uh, and the and the one foot was not

724
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 5: just not that big of a deal at all. It's

725
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 5: just like a little chip. But the other one was

726
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 5: was serious. And they told me before they did the surgery,

727
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 5: they were debating. They were like, we don't know if

728
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 5: we can we should even do this surgery because it's

729
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 5: so invasive and and but your bones just you'll never

730
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 5: walk right again if we don't do it. And so

731
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 5: we did the surgery and they did a great job

732
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 5: with it, but but just because of.

733
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 3: Because of where where it was.

734
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 5: So this is where they cut in on my foot,

735
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 5: there's just like a.

736
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 4: A dippy very.

737
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 3: Was.

738
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 5: So they they did the surgery and then I got

739
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 5: on the road again and it's like, okay, you know,

740
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: I'm sure I'll recover from this. And then I didn't know,

741
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 5: but I got a bone infection and they warned me

742
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 5: that that might be the case because they didn't this didn't.

743
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: Seal properly, so there was still like it was because

744
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 3: of chicken fingers rubbing them in there.

745
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 5: And when I got the bone infection that bone infections

746
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 5: can be very soon stuff, and I almost lost my foot.

747
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 5: They were worried about it, and so then I had

748
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 5: to get another surgery, and they had to just cut

749
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 5: out where that hole was.

750
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 3: They just cut off like as.

751
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 5: Much of my foot as they could and took all

752
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 5: the metal out and everything which they were going to

753
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 5: leave in originally. And then they and then so then

754
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 5: three so then I had this. Well, before I had

755
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 5: the vacuum, I had three times a day.

756
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 4: Vacuum is not literally a mechanism that is sucking, but

757
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 4: a tube or so like it's open air letting air in.

758
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 3: Right, No, it's an actual vacuum.

759
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 4: Good lord.

760
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, like it's noisy and stuff you're carried around

761
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 5: with you and and it's it's also it's also like

762
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 5: a tube. I would put it like through my pants

763
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 5: because otherwise it would get caught on things. And so

764
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 5: people would see me come into a restaurant. Yeah, and

765
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 5: then there's a tube going into my pants, and it's

766
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 5: like I almost had to explain to people, like sorry,

767
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 5: sorry to ruin your dinner. It's not it's not like anything.

768
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 5: It's just a foothole with uh in fact, business.

769
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 2: Bones just bone stuff.

770
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I had bathroom three times a day. I had

771
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 5: to before that. That vacuum thing is amazing actually, but

772
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 5: before that, I had I had to.

773
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: I'm a little.

774
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 5: Bitter about our healthcare system from this. I had to

775
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 5: because they like basically my insurance kicked me out of

776
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: the hospital and I had to pull all the gauze

777
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 5: out of my foothole, like put rubber gloves on, in

778
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 5: a mask and everything.

779
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: I had to.

780
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 5: I had to hook myself up TV's, yeah, three times

781
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 5: a day. I had to like google how to do

782
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 5: half the ship, and then I had to pull all

783
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 5: this gulls out of my foot and then I had

784
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,040
Speaker 5: to like clean off my own bone.

785
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: Hold on. The doctors knew that you did this.

786
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they they were like, originally I was going

787
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 5: to be in the hospital for like two weeks or

788
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 5: so maybe and they were gonna like really take care

789
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 5: of me. And then they came in after like a

790
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 5: few days and they're like, your insurance thinks you're better,

791
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 5: so they're saying that you.

792
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: Need to leave, and.

793
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: The doctors didn't go there. I can't.

794
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: Sorry. Yeah, it was, uh, it sucked. I did.

795
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 5: I did get a home nurse that would come once

796
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 5: a day and do it for me, and I'd have

797
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 5: to do it the other two times.

798
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: It was a night.

799
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 4: How you learned how that you just watched her do it.

800
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, she taught me how to do it a little bit.

801
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 5: And then and then like some of the IV's. I

802
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 5: remember the first night I have these ivs and I'm like,

803
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 5: there's bubbles and these I vs.

804
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 3: I can't have this.

805
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 5: What happens is like now I'm in my head, I'm like,

806
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 5: do you die if there's that? Turns out that's not

807
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 5: really a thing. But you don't want bubbles in there, yea,

808
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 5: And but it will oxygen and all this stuff.

809
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was. It was a nightmare.

810
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 5: It was so it was every eight hours too, and

811
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 5: it took like two hours for the ivy and to

812
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 5: do all this stuff. So it was like I could

813
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 5: never sleep for more than like five hours at a time.

814
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 4: Eat a lot of work done, or make not.

815
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: I couldn't.

816
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I couldn't do anything. And it was it was

817
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 5: really hard. I remember. I remember, like, you know, you'd

818
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 5: manage it. I'd change it out. I'd put like a

819
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 5: plastic thing over my foot so i could take my

820
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 5: crutches into the shower and shower and then go out

821
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 5: to like do a show in La and then I'd

822
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 5: i'd uh. I remember, and I was like handling it.

823
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 5: I was managing it. And then and then I remember

824
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 5: like there'd just be times where I'd be like put

825
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 5: my shoe on and like holding a little looped and

826
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 5: then like the loop snapped, and it was just like no,

827
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 5: not like any little thing that I wasn't prepared for.

828
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 5: It was just like too much was just the jaw

829
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 5: that breaks the camel's back. And so I got through

830
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 5: all that, didn't lose my foot, and then I got

831
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 5: on the cane and then I was like, Okay, light

832
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 5: at the end of the tunnel. And then after a

833
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 5: few weeks, I realized that every other step that I

834
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 5: take in life is going to hurt and and then

835
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 5: I had like a bit of a mental breakdown and uh.

836
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 5: And then my brother was going to Vegas for his

837
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 5: first time. I was supposed to meet him out there,

838
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 5: and I was so depressed. And I've had like chronic

839
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 5: depression my whole life, something like used to it, it's

840
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 5: not that big of a deal for me, but this

841
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,959
Speaker 5: was like really unmanageable, and I was like thinking about

842
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 5: checking myself into a fucking institution and stuff.

843
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 3: And I then.

844
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 5: And I was going to cancel on my brother, and

845
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 5: I was like I'll just go and I'll just have

846
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 5: some drinks and then I'll be fine. And that's why

847
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 5: I started drinking again. It was it was it saved

848
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 5: me from having like a mental breakdown.

849
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 3: Actually, you need I needed some sort of release.

850
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: And that's so much to deal with in a consistent way.

851
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: That's just crazy. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's intense.

852
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you say you're going to pain when you

853
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: walk every time, do you still do a pain?

854
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 3: Now?

855
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 5: It's it's I do, it's you know, it's it's not

856
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 5: really even worth complaining about that.

857
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 3: I would say that it's bad enough.

858
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 5: Where if I really wanted to, I could get a

859
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 5: handicapped sticker, but I would be an asshole for doing it.

860
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: It's definitely not use that instead of the one through tenth.

861
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, if you had.

862
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 4: How much of an asshole would you feel?

863
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 5: I have a guy, I mean, I have so out

864
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 5: of a month, I'll just get hit with like three

865
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 5: or four really bad days, like right in a row,

866
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 5: and I can't I can't exactly pick up on what's

867
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 5: triggering it. But other than that, it's really it's not

868
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 5: that bad.

869
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 2: And how long ago did that happen?

870
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 5: This is like two years ago in Man recently, yeah,

871
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 5: not too long ago.

872
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it changed my life.

873
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 5: But I got a really good album out of it,

874
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 5: and it kind of like re set and it kind

875
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 5: of reset my approach to comedy because when I started,

876
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 5: I just did not give a fuck about comedy. I mean,

877
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 5: like about like bombing, like I would take all the

878
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 5: chances in the world.

879
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I like it.

880
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: I like your old jokes though, yeah, yeah, but there

881
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 4: was a point no, I switched it up.

882
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, I loved I loved my old jokes too, and

883
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 5: but it was because, like I mean, I just like

884
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 5: did not give a like if the audience laughter.

885
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,919
Speaker 3: And I would try out new material all the time.

886
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 5: And I was like so brave when I started, and

887
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 5: then something about like you start making a living and

888
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 5: then there's pressure you don't want to get in trouble

889
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 5: with the club, and it started affecting my act.

890
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: And then my first whack.

891
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 5: At kind of putting putting together a theme show, which

892
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 5: is what I want to try to do, is it

893
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 5: became a special on Netflix called Mating Season, which I wasn't.

894
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: Totally jazzed about. It wasn't it just wasn't me.

895
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 5: And I tried to make it very accessible, and it

896
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 5: ended up being I had much more challenging material, but

897
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 5: I thought like I wanted to get a broad audience,

898
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 5: and it just it just wasn't.

899
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 3: I still like a lot of the stuff and.

900
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 5: Whatever, but but when I broke my feet, I was

901
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 5: just like, fuck it, I'm just gonna do what I

902
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 5: like to do. I'm just I'm not going to cater

903
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 5: to the audience anymore. And I needed that because, like,

904
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 5: my career is in much better shape now.

905
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And it was because that's the lesson. I mean,

906
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: like in all different ways people learn that, but there

907
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: is no broad audience. It's like, you have to get

908
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 2: up and do what you're authentically supposed to be talking about.

909
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: That's the only reason people are going to want to

910
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 2: watch you.

911
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 5: Oh, I can't talk about psychedelics for an hour and

912
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 5: a half, which is how long my show is, to

913
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 5: just a random comedy club audience, which is very understandable.

914
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 5: If I if I went to a comedy club, I

915
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 5: wouldn't want to see a comic get up and talk

916
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 5: about like NASCAR for the whole time if I didn't

917
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 5: know that's what was happening.

918
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: And and so, but the people who do want to

919
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: hear about it are fascinating.

920
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, and the and the the level of enthusiasm for it.

921
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 4: How did you go about booking this tour?

922
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 3: Then?

923
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: What did you is a lot of it at comedy clubs?

924
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 4: Are you doing other.

925
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 5: I'm doing comedy clubs on off nights like Tuesday, you know, Sundays, Wednesdays.

926
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 5: I'll mix it up probably, yeah, And I'm doing but

927
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: I'm pretty much the only comedy clubs I'm doing are

928
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 5: pretty much only like the best ones in the country,

929
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 5: Like I'm doing all the Heliums all their locations in

930
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 5: Philly and Albany in Portland, and I'm doing Denver Comedy Works,

931
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 5: which is amazing, and Comedy on State and and there's

932
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 5: a few Columbus Funny Bone. There's a few other good

933
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 5: ones that I'm that I didn't get in, but like

934
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,399
Speaker 5: Hilarities in Cleveland. So those are the bigger ones I'm doing.

935
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 5: But most of what I'm doing is like music venues.

936
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 5: I'm also doing some small like on Mondays, doing like

937
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 5: a coffee shop or like a pizza joint or something

938
00:44:59,480 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 5: like that.

939
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: Predominantly, how do.

940
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 4: You promote it though? If you're not if you don't

941
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 4: want people to just go to see.

942
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 5: I figured out how to target the psychedelic community. Basically,

943
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 5: I actually I just I'll tell you my secret. I

944
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 5: what happened was I was trying all sorts of different

945
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 5: marketing things, and like I, once I got the show together,

946
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 5: I knew I was onto something. And like the reaction

947
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 5: I get, Like I do a show or my regular show,

948
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 5: people are like, hey, nice job, a good picture, you know,

949
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 5: shake your hand or whatever, I do this show, there'd

950
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 5: be like a line of people like wanting to tell

951
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 5: me their stories, wanting to ask me questions. I'm like,

952
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 5: this is something special, but I didn't know how to

953
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 5: Whether or not there was an audience was completely dependent

954
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 5: on how well the venue marketed because no one knew

955
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 5: who I was. And I had some really nice artwork

956
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 5: that caught the eye and everything else done by my

957
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 5: good friend Ramin Naser, who's an amazing artist, and this

958
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 5: poster that he made for me really helped.

959
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 3: Just little things like that, tweaking.

960
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 5: The name, and and and then I figured out I

961
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 5: tried some Facebook ads and they were going like it

962
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 5: was helping a little bit. I couldn't really tell. And

963
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 5: then I actually had like this angel come into my life,

964
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 5: this fan of mine, Matt Steinberg and Austin who taught

965
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 5: my Austin show and believed in what I was doing.

966
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 5: And he worked in the Facebook ads department and he

967
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 5: just figured out for me how to target like the

968
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 5: psychedelic community on Facebook. And ever since then, I've just

969
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 5: been filling rooms and and so incredibly.

970
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: An Austin comic, right, Michael Steinberg.

971
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 5: No, Matt, Matt Steinberg And and so since then it's

972
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 5: been successful. So it was like six months of figuring

973
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 5: that out, and then after that it's been really successful.

974
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 5: I use a lot of other weird tricks too, but

975
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 5: and so because it's been so successful, my agent's like,

976
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 5: let's let's put together a little tour. It's gonna be

977
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 5: thirty cities at first and ended up being sixty five.

978
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 5: So it's it's very exciting.

979
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 3: This is the most exciting thing in my career.

980
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 4: Like in October.

981
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, it starts October, the first Monday in October. That's

982
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 5: the second or third starts in air Staff, Arizona.

983
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: And you said you're driving, but you keep saying we

984
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 2: or is someone going to be with you?

985
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: Did I say we?

986
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: Like when you were talking. You were saying, we were planning,

987
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: Oh my agent and I okay, so are you driving

988
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: by yourself?

989
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

990
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I am I I uh, I wanted if I

991
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 5: do this again next year with with like a follow

992
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 5: up or something like that, I will hopefully be able

993
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 5: to afford an RB because right now I have just

994
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 5: a shitty I'm a baraque comic with a shitty uh.

995
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: Oh wait, Hondai Lantra. That's been very good to me.

996
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 4: Wait, it's a good year.

997
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: That's my fit.

998
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 5: But it's getting that mileage where it's like something's going

999
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 5: to go wrong at some point and I don't want

1000
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 5: it to be on this tour, but it sucks to

1001
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 5: I would like just even just a van so I

1002
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 5: could just pull over and take a nap to split

1003
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 5: things up, or have a desk to write some jokes

1004
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 5: quick when you have ideas. It would be so amazing

1005
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 5: to have a closet so I don't need to have

1006
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 5: like iron my clothes all the time.

1007
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 3: Like there would be so many nice things. Now.

1008
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 5: It's like, if you're in your car, you want to

1009
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 5: take a nap. As I pull over in the rest

1010
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 5: area recline, you're you're still sitting in the same chair.

1011
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 5: It's not really a break for your back or whatever.

1012
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 5: So but yeah, I'm excited.

1013
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 4: All the things you got to do.

1014
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 3: Stop bathroom, Yeah, all of the things.

1015
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 5: Just sitting there twiddling your thumbs on the other side

1016
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 5: of the glory hole.

1017
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:49,000
Speaker 3: Come on, I need a recharge here. That's how I

1018
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:49,800
Speaker 3: get my energy.

1019
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, like, yeah, I know, I have been there.

1020
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 4: Like pac Man, pac Man pellets, that's terrific.

1021
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: Have you ever played our player pac Man in the arcades.

1022
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 2: Tabletop?

1023
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got four things and you eat each other.

1024
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 5: It's the best arcade game I've.

1025
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 4: Seen a joysticks so great on each side.

1026
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: You go to Bridgetown a lot, right, how many festival?

1027
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 3: I never you don't do the arcade?

1028
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 2: Never went I never went to Do you not like

1029
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 2: that arcade?

1030
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 4: There was a line line I couldn't get in.

1031
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: Well, it's a good game. I have recommend it.

1032
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: It's a fun one. I played that one back.

1033
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:32,720
Speaker 5: Five thousand dollars for one, Like I looked into whatever

1034
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 5: I would It cost five thousand dollars for one stupid game?

1035
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:37,959
Speaker 3: Like why can't they.

1036
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: Just oh, they're taking because remember when Pete made his

1037
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: did you ever see that pac Man game Pete made.

1038
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: I made one of those two.

1039
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: Did you really?

1040
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 4: Just had the cabinet from an old arcade game? And

1041
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: I put my TV. I put my TV and and

1042
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 4: the joystick turned on the TV, and then where the

1043
00:49:55,080 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: coins were. It was where my VCR and and DVD.

1044
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: It was well even he actually reach you made a

1045
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: real one, like out of wood and whatever, like it

1046
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 2: looked like a real pac Man machine, but it was

1047
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 2: all of like sourced parts or whatever. And it probably

1048
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: cost him at the most five hundred dollars. And the

1049
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: fact so the fact that they're charging people five grand

1050
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: is purely like taking advantage of Richard. Oh yeah, rich

1051
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:22,919
Speaker 2: like gen xers.

1052
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 5: Have you guys played I just played a few days ago,

1053
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 5: the Vibe the virtual reality. By the way, I'm not like,

1054
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 5: I love video games, but I'm not a gamer because

1055
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 5: if I ever own a system like, my life's just over.

1056
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 5: I'll just I'll die in front of the video games.

1057
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. I've never been into video games either, but I

1058
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 4: have one skateboarding one on my phone and I can't

1059
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 4: stop I am every time I had there's a lull,

1060
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 4: I start playing it like a fifteen year old kid.

1061
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 5: Well, this vibe is like because there was the Octolus

1062
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 5: Rift or whatever, and there's a lot of problems with

1063
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 5: it because you get motion sickness and whatnot. But they

1064
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 5: corrected some of that and they made all the graphics better.

1065
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 5: And this thing is like I did this paint program.

1066
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 5: You just like you paint, you use a brush or

1067
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 5: sparks or whatever, and you're just like painting in the

1068
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 5: air and then you can walk through it and people

1069
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 5: like whole ships and then you can like walk inside

1070
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 5: and look around, and you can graffiti it and.

1071
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: All of this stuff.

1072
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 5: And there's like shooters and you're like taking a bow and

1073
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 5: arrow and pulling back and shooting it things and like

1074
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 5: dodging their stuff like the matrix and whatnot. It is

1075
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 5: the future is amazing. Play it with other people as well,

1076
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 5: Like you can play paintball games and stuff with other

1077
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 5: people online, trash talking and whatnot.

1078
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 2: Crazy.

1079
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, the future is incredible. I haven't seen it, but

1080
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 5: I guess the porn is.

1081
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you're standing in it in someone's room.

1082
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're standing in their vagina.

1083
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 4: Learn how to be a proctologist, yeah, or I'm sorry,

1084
00:51:52,480 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 4: you know the OBG proper one duncan trestle the riff

1085
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 4: thing that like three years ago. I tried it on.

1086
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 4: It was like a sample mode and there was a

1087
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 4: house plant in the corner of this room that you

1088
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 4: look around. It's just like tron World. It just was

1089
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 4: expanded first, and then I looked under this plant and

1090
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 4: I could see under a leaf, and I was like, oh,

1091
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 4: that's too much for it was you can under there

1092
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 4: was a plan. I'm like, cool, a three D plant.

1093
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 4: And then I looked under it and there's like the

1094
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 4: veins of the waves and it scared the hell out.

1095
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 5: That's where I did it. Actually that he's upgraded a system.

1096
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 5: He has the new one.

1097
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 4: Yes. No, he was so into it that I'm like, oh,

1098
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 4: oh yeah, it's just him and in a deprivation chamber.

1099
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: Have you ever done all those deprivation chambers? No?

1100
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,760
Speaker 4: He told me that we should, but I've been scared.

1101
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 2: When you're a Bridgetown, they gave away coupons to do

1102
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: I remember that. Yet I was like considering it. I

1103
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: kept going back and forth, and then I just was like,

1104
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 2: I just can't handle it.

1105
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 3: You know what, why don't you try it?

1106
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 5: I want to do an hour and a half and

1107
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 5: just have no no expectations for it, because you're probably

1108
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 5: just gonna think it's like a little laman boring, especially

1109
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 5: if you've never meditated. But aren't you meditating a little bit.

1110
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 2: Aren't you in the total dark in the water?

1111
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I think it's great. I did it on

1112
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 5: mushrooms and it was the best trip that I've ever had.

1113
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 5: That was my fourth and last. The last float that

1114
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 5: I had was on mushrooms. It was was wonderful. But

1115
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 5: I've done it three other times without it. The first time,

1116
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 5: I was just like trying to meditate the whole time

1117
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 5: and it was great. It was like meditation, like on steroids.

1118
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 5: It was just a weird sounding thing to say. And

1119
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 5: then the second time I was I was just I

1120
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 5: got a little more used to it. And then the

1121
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 5: third time, I'm like, I'm just gonna let my mind

1122
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 5: do whatever it wants to do. I'm not going to

1123
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 5: worry about like trying to focus on my breathing or

1124
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 5: whatever be in there. And think I came up with

1125
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 5: all this great material and that I remember it afterwards

1126
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 5: and wrote down and it's part of my act now,

1127
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 5: And yeah, I think it's I think it's pretty good.

1128
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 5: It's so expensive. It's like it, I mean, it's I

1129
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 5: don't think I would ever do it again. I mean

1130
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 5: once in a while someone throws me a free float

1131
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 5: or something like that, because I've had like a flow

1132
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 5: guy on my podcast and whatnot.

1133
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 3: But it is really expensive.

1134
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 4: I was it's a hundred bucks.

1135
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 3: I think it's like seventy ish.

1136
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 5: I want to say, for like an hour and a

1137
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 5: half maybe, which is worth it.

1138
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 3: If you're on mushrooms. Otherwise I'm not sure.

1139
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 4: And you get a massage in the tank, Yeah, there's

1140
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 4: just someone in there and you can't see them, just

1141
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 4: some feet nice.

1142
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: Nice, I think. Well, I think part of my hesitation

1143
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 2: is because I have epilepsy or seize your disorders what

1144
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 2: they call it, and really modern.

1145
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 3: I've never met anyone with epilepsy before. I was excited.

1146
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: How often does it? How often do you get it?

1147
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 3: How often does it strike?

1148
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: My medicine controls it almost entirely. The only time I

1149
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 2: have auras is is if I miss like two doses

1150
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 2: in a row.

1151
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 3: Are you are you? Do you talk about it a lot?

1152
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 3: Are you sick of talking about it? I don't talk.

1153
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 3: When did you When did you first did you have

1154
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 3: it just right from like.

1155
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it was I. It was in the

1156
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: nineties when I drank, and so it was basically like

1157
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 2: the last night I drank, I just went home. I

1158
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 2: had been having seizures at night and I didn't know,

1159
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 2: so I was waking up with a bit and tongue.

1160
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: And then one day I woke up and I was

1161
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 2: talking on the phone to somebody and I said, it's

1162
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 2: so weird. I keep biting my tongue at night. It's

1163
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,959
Speaker 2: like really hard, like right now, I can barely even talk.

1164
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 2: And I turned around on the phone and there was

1165
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 2: a spray of blood on the wall next to my bed,

1166
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 2: and I just went and got a sponge and wiped

1167
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 2: it off and never told anybody and never like I

1168
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: just was like that didn't happen. And then probably like

1169
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: four months later or so, I Kristin Barrant was staying

1170
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 2: with me, Greg's sister, and I had a seizure and

1171
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: she was there, so she called nine one one. So

1172
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: I woke up like I in sleep. I remember my

1173
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 2: eyes pulling really hard in this weird sensation and like

1174
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 2: going into it, and I was really scared and tense,

1175
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: and then some weird voice in my mind was like

1176
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,439
Speaker 2: just let go. There's nothing you can do, like, don't

1177
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: fight this, you have to like just relax. And so

1178
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,720
Speaker 2: that's when I had like it was a full uh

1179
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 2: what do you call it? The uh with the terminology shit,

1180
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 2: it's there's different types. There's all different types. And I

1181
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: had the big one, Grandma. And then when I woke up,

1182
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: I was surrounded by EMTs like do you know your name?

1183
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 2: Do you know what a day it is? It was

1184
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 2: full on, and then I had to go to the hospital.

1185
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: I was in the hospital for four days, and the

1186
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:13,479
Speaker 2: doctors thought it was from drinking because I was twenty seven,

1187
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: so I was a complete alcoholic and had taken speed

1188
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 2: like diet pills about two years before. And I think

1189
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 2: that gave me heart damage. I'm pretty sure, because they

1190
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: say sometimes that's a connection. If you have something wrong

1191
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 2: with your heart, you'll have seizures.

1192
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 4: Didn't you say it happened while you're driving once.

1193
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: Or you just were it has but not full seizure,

1194
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 2: just my eyes basically my aura, which is the thing that.

1195
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 4: Starts luckily right by an exit or something.

1196
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: Didn't you just yes, that's the right It was on

1197
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 2: the I was that time. I was on the one

1198
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: thirty four in the center lane, and my aura, which

1199
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: is the first thing that starts happening before a full seizure.

1200
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 2: Some people smell things or sea lights or whatever. Mine is.

1201
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 2: My eyes start looking up to the left again. My

1202
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: will like I'm not doing it. And so yeah, I

1203
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: was driving up the one thirty four and it started happening,

1204
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 2: and like when it happens, I turned my head because

1205
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 2: my eyes pulled so hard that like it's just natural

1206
00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 2: that you have your head turns. And I was driving

1207
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: and going like this, and I knew that that Koanga

1208
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: exit was right there, and so I just cut over

1209
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: like three lanes of traffic and there was no one there.

1210
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: You didn't crash, miracle of God. There were no other

1211
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: cars in three lanes. And I got off and I

1212
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 2: was going to do a Jane Wilson's show at that church,

1213
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: have a podcast.

1214
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 3: Were you the driver?

1215
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we never told anybody.

1216
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 3: I was thinking that even before you met.

1217
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: But I mean by the time we said this, my

1218
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 2: seizures have been controlled by medicine for uh it almost

1219
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 2: twenty years. I mean like a super long time.

1220
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 5: I would never you haven't had a single one in

1221
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 5: the twenty years I have medicated.

1222
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: I definitely have. I like when I got my wisdom

1223
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: teeth pulled, I was taking painkillers viking in which was

1224
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 2: making me throw up, so I couldn't keep medicine down.

1225
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: So after three days of that, I had a full seizure. Yeah,

1226
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: It's happened here and there, and it's always because I'm

1227
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,120
Speaker 2: not ingesting the medicine or something happens with her strobe light.

1228
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 2: I've never had a seizure because of a strobe light.

1229
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: I just avoid them.

1230
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 4: Because I thought you said that. Every time I see

1231
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 4: a strobe light and it's sudden, like it a Halloween

1232
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 4: of knots, very firm scare.

1233
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 3: Week or whatever.

1234
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 4: I don't think that's what they call it. But there'll

1235
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 4: be just a strobe light, and I'm like, that's careless.

1236
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 4: What if someone's epileptic.

1237
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 2: You just could close your eyes. That's what I never

1238
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: I close my eyes every time because because it's a

1239
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 2: weird thing. That's the way they test you when you

1240
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: get like EEGs or whatever they do. There's a strobe

1241
00:59:55,480 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 2: test where they start to induce a seizure to study your.

1242
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 5: So so so that first time that it happened, and

1243
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 5: your friend was there. Your eyes went back and you

1244
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 5: then lost consciousness, yes, right away, and so you were

1245
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 5: just having a seizure for ten minutes and you don't

1246
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 5: remember any of that.

1247
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: No, I only remember the beginning. So I was conscious

1248
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 2: for the first thirty forty five seconds maybe, uh. And

1249
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 2: it's super It's just tension. It's like crazy full body

1250
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: muscular engagement. And it's like it just feels like your

1251
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: brain is sparking, you know, because it's all of your

1252
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 2: it's all the energy, all the synapses are going at

1253
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: one time, and so it's just that and then just

1254
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 2: really jerky pully body and then there's just like a

1255
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: I just get really calm, you know what I mean.

1256
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 2: Like it's the same thing happened to me once when

1257
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: I got caught in a wave in Hawaii and I

1258
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: was just like it was like I was in a

1259
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: washing machine. I was super panicked, and then I just

1260
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: got crazy calm. It's just like it'll be over, do

1261
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 2: not like, do not expend energy, just like and I

1262
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 2: just and it's the same thing where it's like high

1263
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 2: high panic and then it's just like let it go.

1264
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,919
Speaker 2: And then yeah, then I woke up and she said

1265
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 2: she heard she thought I was choking, and so when

1266
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: she came over, my lips were blue. She was so

1267
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 2: freaked out. I mean, it scared the shit out of her.

1268
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure it's completely different, but I've had

1269
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 5: DMT trips where I have, like because I really go

1270
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 5: for it sometimes and smoke as much as I can.

1271
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 5: So you can't have like, you can't overdose on it.

1272
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 5: It's just really hard to like get enough in it

1273
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 5: to like a lot of times people don't have the

1274
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 5: full on thing. But there's been times where I think,

1275
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 5: I like I overdid it a little bit. And there's

1276
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 5: been like like where I'm.

1277
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 3: Like, I like, I feel.

1278
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 5: Like I'm gonna have a fucking seizure or something coming on.

1279
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,720
Speaker 5: It's only happened like twice out of ninety times or whatever.

1280
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 5: And then I but there'll there'll be a voice like

1281
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 5: it's okay, just just relax.

1282
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 3: Yes, it's when you said that, I was like, Wow,

1283
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 3: that's strange.

1284
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: I think it's I mean, I don't know if that's

1285
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: I don't know why that would be, but I it

1286
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 2: feels to me it makes sense that like in like

1287
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 2: when you're in a worrisome situation or like a panic situation.

1288
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, you're experiencing it, you're freaking out, your

1289
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: free you're having all these reactions, and then it gets

1290
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,320
Speaker 2: to a point where, like for me, I've had a

1291
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: couple things like that where it's like so scary that

1292
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 2: then there's just a little bit of like pull you you,

1293
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 2: you pull in. It's like your reptilian brain is like no, no, no, no,

1294
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: Like we're not doing this anymore, is what it feels

1295
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 2: like to me. We're just like shut it all down

1296
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 2: for a little bit and then you can come back later.

1297
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 4: Because this is too much. You just lost your.

1298
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: Tail and you're real, real scared.

1299
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 4: Yeah wow, yeah, I feel like I haven't had any experiences.

1300
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: Well know you hear all your hip things.

1301
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,919
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I mean, well, you're in pain all the time.

1302
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 5: You're into a little you're into mushrooms and l's steel

1303
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 5: ittle bit.

1304
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 4: Right fourth July.

1305
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 3: Oh that's it.

1306
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, for our country to celebrate our future.

1307
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 5: You should try one time to stare at the flag

1308
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 5: and watch the colors.

1309
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 4: They don't run, but they the hell don't.

1310
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 5: You should try just just with a with a close

1311
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 5: friend or maybe even by yourself.

1312
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Speaker 4: I'd do it like with my dad if I could

1313
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 4: talk him into it.

1314
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, do d m T No, No, not DM DMT

1315
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 5: is not like a bonding experience.

1316
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 3: It's like you're you're buyers.

1317
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 4: I don't like the mushroom thing. I don't like. I

1318
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 4: don't socially, I don't. I feel like I should be

1319
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 4: in the woods.

1320
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah with a.

1321
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 4: Friend or something. Yeah, but I don't like it, like

1322
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 4: at my fourth do like no.

1323
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Speaker 5: No, yeah, I know that's what I'm saying, Like, that's

1324
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 5: really not the best. If that's the only time you're

1325
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 5: not getting like the full picture of.

1326
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it was.

1327
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Speaker 2: In your life.

1328
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 3: Really good parties are amazing.

1329
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really fun.

1330
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: That was That was fantam.

1331
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 4: You were up at seven in the morning.

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01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 3: I was.

1333
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 4: I woke up. I just to make sure there weren't

1334
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 4: strangers in the because one guy threatened to pull out

1335
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 4: a gun and everything. And I was in my room

1336
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 4: hiding and I came out and you were still like

1337
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,720
Speaker 4: wide awake and party and.

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01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 5: It's yeah, yeah, I did at a fair amount of

1339
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 5: psychedelics that evening.

1340
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,480
Speaker 2: Well, wait was everybody partying till seven?

1341
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 5: There was a scroup left. Yeah, I wasn't just hanging

1342
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 5: out with my shof.

1343
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 4: I'm just glad you guys were there because because you're

1344
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 4: having fun and the party was continuing, which gave me pride.

1345
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 4: And then the doors and windows were wide open, and

1346
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 4: I just thought I'd come out and there'd be bandits

1347
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 4: and just a gang of raccoons putting all our forks

1348
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 4: and a satchel.

1349
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: These are ours now forks, so we need those, Nate, What.

1350
01:04:53,520 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 4: Do I do with this worthless laptop? Yeah? That shit, man,

1351
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 4: Let's do drugs, guys.

1352
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 2: Guys, I can't. I can't.

1353
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited for Do you sell these books?

1354
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1355
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 5: These are adult coloring books slash trip journals that I saw,

1356
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 5: so I have. There's an organization that's the biggest research

1357
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 5: psychedelic research organization in the US, maybe in the world,

1358
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 5: called called MAPS, the Multidisciplinary Association of Psychedelic Studies. And

1359
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 5: I had some of their people on my podcast, so

1360
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 5: some of their researchers. They're trying to get MDMA approved.

1361
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 5: There in the last stage of getting MTMA approved for

1362
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 5: clinical use for people with PTSD.

1363
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: Oh.

1364
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 5: And because what it does is it it inhibits blood

1365
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 5: flow to the amigdala, which is like your fight or

1366
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 5: fight kind of response, and which is what PTSD have

1367
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 5: have overactive, like the one little trigger, and all of

1368
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 5: a sudden, this thing lights up and it's just too

1369
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 5: much for them, and they like stop thinking about it,

1370
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 5: and then they repress it too much. And then once

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01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 5: you repress it so much, it'll just bubble out and

1372
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 5: project into the non conscious work or the into your

1373
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 5: conscious world, and that's why you have hallucinations and stuff sometimes.

1374
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: When it's really severe.

1375
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 5: But so it inhibits blood flow to the prefrontal cortex

1376
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 5: and then it increases it or the amigdala, and then

1377
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 5: it increases it to the prefrontal cortex, which is like

1378
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 5: your decision making functions and does a lot of your

1379
01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 5: higher processes. Kind of we're all these big fancy thoughts

1380
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 5: of ours, the kind of later on an evolution, our

1381
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 5: fanciest ones, all these big words.

1382
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 4: Water slide on a boat.

1383
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so so people are able to then be

1384
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 5: kind of walked through all of these things that they

1385
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 5: normally just can't handle thinking about in a way and

1386
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 5: they're able to process it more. And that's really almost

1387
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 5: people need is just to be able to figure out

1388
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:51,919
Speaker 5: a way to process it.

1389
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 2: And talk about it without being triggered.

1390
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:58,520
Speaker 5: Yeah and so, so the organization is actually a sponsor

1391
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 5: of my tour and yeah and so, and they've been

1392
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 5: on my podcast several times from the researchers. And so,

1393
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 5: I forget the question that got me into that. Originally

1394
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 5: it was about oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, about this,

1395
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 5: about this trip journal and adult coloring book. So one

1396
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 5: I just thought it was kind of a brilliant idea anyway,

1397
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:27,120
Speaker 5: and then Remine. I have Romine Nser who edits my podcast,

1398
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 5: and he's just an amazing artist in general. And so

1399
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 5: one of the things when you're having like a bad

1400
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 5: trip at a music, big music festival, they'll have tents,

1401
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 5: like there's this organization Zendo that that maps has and

1402
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 5: you go in and they just they just kind of

1403
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,800
Speaker 5: give you a safe place to kind of relate a

1404
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 5: bad trip. There's no like medical intervention needed. You just

1405
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 5: need a place where you can just kind of process

1406
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,919
Speaker 5: things and not panic so much and and calm down

1407
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 5: a little bit. And one of the things that they

1408
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 5: do is like they'll give people coloring books and whatnot

1409
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 5: because it gives them like a little something to focus on.

1410
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 3: So that was part of the thinking of of having

1411
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 3: this too.

1412
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 5: And and I like the idea of journaling during a

1413
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 5: trip to so yeah, that's the buss.

1414
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 2: That's very cool.

1415
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe I'll do so. I have a joke about like.

1416
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 5: People being talking about like universal love and whatnot when

1417
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 5: they when they're tripping, and so that's what this this

1418
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 5: like a universe of hearts in there. So it's all

1419
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 5: based on on my act. It's pretty neat.

1420
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 4: That is the neatest.

1421
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just got them.

1422
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 4: What's monkey with these melting this vomits vomit goblin.

1423
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 3: About like thinking about cops well on acid. You'd have

1424
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 3: to see that. That's great, Yeah, every one of them.

1425
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 5: Once you've seen the act, you'll understand all of those

1426
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 5: different This is this Christmas one.

1427
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: So there's a there's a.

1428
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 5: Mushroom amanita mescalia or something like that that I first

1429
01:08:57,280 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 5: found out about it because someone people come up to

1430
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 5: me after show and tell me about all these weird

1431
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 5: drugs I've never heard of. So apparently this mushroom you

1432
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 5: eat it does nothing to you at all. But then

1433
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:09,799
Speaker 5: if you collect your urine and drink it, you trip

1434
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 5: your bulls. But and I haven't tried that one yet.

1435
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 4: Does Christmas come into that?

1436
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:20,719
Speaker 3: So I didn't.

1437
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 5: I thought they were making it up. So I looked

1438
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 5: into it and it turns out that they think that.

1439
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 5: So there's a lot of a lot of people have

1440
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 5: these ideas which I don't really subscribe to, that are

1441
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 5: about that psychedelics. We're kind of the foundation of a

1442
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,000
Speaker 5: lot of a lot of modern religions and a lot

1443
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 5: of modern myths. So this mushroom they think is responsible

1444
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 5: for the Santa Claus myth because it's a red and

1445
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 5: white mushroom that grows under conifer trees, and they would

1446
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,640
Speaker 5: they would like it would be this gift that you

1447
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 5: would give for like to have the ceremony in one

1448
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 5: of the things that they do to test if the

1449
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 5: mushrooms were good. If they trip, they would give them

1450
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 5: they were reindeer herders, they'd give them the reindeer, and

1451
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 5: if they were worked, the reindeer would start jumping up

1452
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:04,639
Speaker 5: and down, like really high. And so they think that's

1453
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 5: it's not it's not. I'm not saying I.

1454
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 3: Believe that, but it's just a fun little thing.

1455
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 5: So that's that's the story of that picture. So every

1456
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 5: every picture has a little story to it.

1457
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 4: That's just a story about animals.

1458
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 2: No, they it's not abuse because they fucking love it.

1459
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: I love getting high. They think it's the greatest.

1460
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 3: Animals love getting high, my cat.

1461
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 5: Have you seen have you ever seen like monkeys getting drunk.

1462
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 5: There's this great if you just put in monkeys getting drunk.

1463
01:10:31,680 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 5: There's this resort area in some country and that has

1464
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 5: monkeys around, and the monkeys will just run up and

1465
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 5: like grab someone's drink from them and drink it. And

1466
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 5: they found that they found that these monkeys have have

1467
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 5: the exact same kind of percentage of alcoholism as humans.

1468
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 5: So you have some monkeys that like, try it once

1469
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,559
Speaker 5: and don't touch it, won't touch the stuff. Have some

1470
01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 5: monkeys they're like, I'll have a drink here and there

1471
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,879
Speaker 5: you know it's dried. And then you have some monkeys

1472
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 5: that are just raging alcoholics out of control, and it's

1473
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 5: like the exact same percentage as humans. So that's like

1474
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 5: the kind of stuff that I'm into and I talk

1475
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 5: about on my Here we Are podcast. I just basically

1476
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 5: if there's something I don't know about, like say seizures,

1477
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 5: which I know nothing about, I'm interested in. I just

1478
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:20,799
Speaker 5: try to find a researcher in one of the cities

1479
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 5: that I'm traveling to, or I make a list of

1480
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 5: people and topics I'm interested in, and I look them

1481
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 5: up and get them on my show to have them

1482
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 5: explain it to me.

1483
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 3: So that's that's terrific.

1484
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 4: Wow. I hope there's a monkey out there that only

1485
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 4: smokes when you drink. I know, these old things.

1486
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 2: I want to quit, but I can't.

1487
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,080
Speaker 4: That's a class. I love the fifties footage of forcing

1488
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 4: monkeys to smoke.

1489
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 3: You didn't have to force them for too long. I

1490
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 3: don't think you have to.

1491
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 4: You're being a dick and a lapto at that point, and.

1492
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,400
Speaker 2: You also have to put a leather jacket on them

1493
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 2: to complete the picture. Well. You usually at the end

1494
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 2: of our podcast we ask people to give us plugs.

1495
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 2: I feel like you've done.

1496
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 3: The entire time. Yeah, I will pro.

1497
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,560
Speaker 4: Pro Yeah that was.

1498
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: It was very conversational.

1499
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 5: So how yeah, I mean, it's it's like a show

1500
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 5: that I'm so excited about. So it's like easy and talk.

1501
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 5: It's just like you know, when you're like sick of

1502
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 5: your act and stuff, which I'll probably be sick of

1503
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 5: this by the end of the tour, I imagine. But

1504
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 5: it's just you know, you know that special time when

1505
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 5: you're like actually excited all together and you're like, so

1506
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 5: that's where I am right.

1507
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 2: You're doing?

1508
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 4: How do people find it?

1509
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 5: Just as Shane Moss m a U s s dot

1510
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 5: com and you can go on there and check all

1511
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 5: the dates.

1512
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,920
Speaker 3: It's sixty five cities if you live in the US.

1513
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 4: I'm any I've had trouble with your And then m

1514
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 4: a U S S sounds like m O S S.

1515
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I actually spell some people pronounce some people

1516
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 5: have the same spelling and pronounce it the mouse.

1517
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 4: Get out of here with your mouse ship.

1518
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 3: But that's but that's like I know this.

1519
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,839
Speaker 5: There's this German scientist who is here now and pronounces

1520
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 5: it that way, and it's a German name. So I'm like, well,

1521
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 5: she's probably right. Then I think I'm I think maybe

1522
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 5: I've been saying it wrong.

1523
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:22,799
Speaker 2: You're in America.

1524
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 4: It's just her weird Nazi accent.

1525
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, German on this.

1526
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 3: Podcast, they did they were not.

1527
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 2: Shake a finger, a judgmental finger at the Germans.

1528
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 5: Everyone.

1529
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:43,840
Speaker 3: You don't want to.

1530
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 2: Slip It was only a couple of years ago.

1531
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 3: It wasn't that long.

1532
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 2: It really wasn't shocking.

1533
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 4: And I've forgiven them.

1534
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 2: You're such a good person, yea.

1535
01:13:59,439 --> 01:13:59,879
Speaker 3: Yourself.

1536
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 2: You know what I forgive. Nazi ladies and gentlemen, this

1537
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: has been.

1538
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:12,720
Speaker 4: Do you need a ride? E y n A?

1539
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:18,360
Speaker 2: Are you leaving? I?

1540
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 1: You wanna way back home? Either way we want to

1541
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: be there, doesn't matter how much baggage you claim, and

1542
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:33,280
Speaker 1: give us time and a turmanal and gay.

1543
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 2: We want to send you off inside.

1544
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: We want to welcome you back home. Tell us all

1545
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: about it.

1546
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:44,920
Speaker 2: We scared her? Was it fine?

1547
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 4: Now?

1548
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 6: Porn?

1549
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,799
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

1550
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

1551
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?

1552
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,679
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride?

1553
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:25,479
Speaker 4: Do you need to ride with Karen and chriss

1554
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:27,640
Speaker 5: Mm hm