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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind listener mail.

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Speaker 2: My name is Robert.

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Speaker 3: Lamb and I am Joe McCormick, and today is Monday.

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Speaker 3: With the day of each week we read back some

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Speaker 3: messages from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind listener mailbox.

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Speaker 3: If you had never gotten in touch with us before,

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Speaker 3: why not give it a try. You can email us

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Speaker 3: at contact at stuff to Blow your Mind dot com.

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Speaker 3: Let's see, Rob, I think I want to kick things

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Speaker 3: off with this message from Kenny in Glasgow. If you

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Speaker 3: don't mind, go for it. So this is somewhat having

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Speaker 3: to do with beavers, but also in response to a

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Speaker 3: previous listener mail from last week. Kenny from Glasgow says, Hi, Rob,

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Speaker 3: Joe and JJ. First off, in response to Constantine's listener

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Speaker 3: mail can learning Canada's national animal the mighty beaver, he

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Speaker 3: remarked that the UK has the lion. However that's only

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Speaker 3: England's animal. Ooh, I'm sure that is a screw up there, Constantine.

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Speaker 3: I hope you find contrition about this. Kenny goes on,

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Speaker 3: We Scots opted for the unicorn and the Welsh went

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Speaker 3: for the dragon. If you must have an animal mascot,

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Speaker 3: why limit yourself to reality. Regarding the beaver, we reintroduced

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Speaker 3: them in Scotland about two decades ago after a five

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Speaker 3: hundred year absence. There's been a bit of resistance, especially

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Speaker 3: from farmers, but they appear to have increased biodiversity, reduced

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Speaker 3: pollution and downstream flooding. My direct experience of a wild

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Speaker 3: beaver was actually in Connecticut, where I worked at a

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Speaker 3: stump gnad to a perfect point was a cartoon trope,

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Speaker 3: but we would regularly spot these on woodland walks. One day,

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Speaker 3: I took my division out on the lake in kayaks.

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Speaker 3: It was very warm and the lake was mirror smooth,

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Speaker 3: and the boys and I were drifting near the shore

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Speaker 3: in a blissful little group. From the corner of my eye,

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Speaker 3: I noticed a shadow in the water, and when I turned,

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Speaker 3: It was no more than a meter away, with only

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Speaker 3: in silence before, evidently bored with me, it dove, slapping

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Speaker 3: the water hard with its huge tail. The lake was

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Speaker 3: it in the distance. Anyway, thanks for your incredible work,

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Speaker 3: Kenny from Glasgow. PS is a future topic. Maybe you

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Speaker 3: could talk about the environmental effects of species reintroduction. It's

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Speaker 3: a subject of some debate and I think education is vital. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: thanks Kenny, that is an interesting subject. I don't think

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Speaker 3: I quite realized. I know, beaver's had been hunted to

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Speaker 3: British Isles. But yeah, I didn't realize they'd been reintroduced.

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Speaker 3: So that is interesting and I'm glad your encounter with

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Speaker 2: And indeed, this is a good topic for future consideration.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we've maybe touched on it a little

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Speaker 2: ever done like a full episode on species reintroduction. Could

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Speaker 2: be wrong, all right. This next one comes to us

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Speaker 2: from Ian Ian writes in and says, Dear Robin, Joe,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to write in just to say thank you

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Speaker 2: to Robert for an offhand comment he made several weeks

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Speaker 2: he's reread it. The reason I'm thanking you for this

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Speaker 2: local library has a reading program that I participate in,

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Speaker 2: where each month there is a new category of books

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Speaker 2: for you to read. The May's category was a book

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Speaker 2: Ian M. Banks, the first Culture series book I read,

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Speaker 2: I was listening to your show, rob mentioned rereading Doune,

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Speaker 2: and I knew that was the one. I first received

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Speaker 2: He also gave me the complete Hitchhiker's Guide series another year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh well, that's heartwarming. Regarding that copy of down

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Speaker 3: But I think what I said is that the first

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Speaker 3: few times I tried to read Dune. I got stalled out.

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Speaker 3: It's just not a good physical printing of the book.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some of these old paperbacks, I love them. I

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Speaker 2: to these books. That's my hot take. Reading is great.

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Speaker 3: Okay. This next message is in response to our episode

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Speaker 3: on Blue Space and on fountains. Edward says, Hi, Robin Joe.

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Speaker 3: because I don't think it has those aspects. Water fills

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Speaker 3: any regular pattern to the buckets emptying, but it does

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Speaker 3: Edward provides some links well, thank you, Edward. I can

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I don't have a strong

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Speaker 2: All Right, show we get into some Weird House Cinema

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Speaker 2: listener mail here. This first one's pretty exciting. This one

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Speaker 2: comes to us from bb BB writes in and says, Hi, guys,

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Speaker 2: many hours, primarily at night, listening to podcasts, and yours

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Speaker 2: is one of my very favorites. Well. I love all

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Speaker 2: of Weird House Cinema. I've almost written in on a

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Speaker 2: I saw both Phantasm and The Devil's Rain in the theater.

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Speaker 2: One small detail in Fantasm scarred me for life, but

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Speaker 3: Last don't say what the detail is.

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Speaker 2: in Phantasm. It could have could have been numerous things.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the Blood Funnel. It was the performance of

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Speaker 3: sitting Here at Midnight by hot As Love the Reggie

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, that's a great, often underappreciated moment in

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Speaker 2: the film. Anyway, Babe continues this last Saturday morning, I

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Speaker 2: My friend is the son of Judy Meredith and Gary Nelson.

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Speaker 2: I told him that you had some really nice things

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Speaker 2: to say about his mom. She was, of course in

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Speaker 2: think you should cover The black Hole on Weird House.

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Speaker 2: It's very rich and deep in some ways and very

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Speaker 2: cheesy in others. Fun fact, The black Hole was Disney's

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Speaker 2: first PG rated movie. Thanks again for all the hard

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Speaker 3: Bebe well. That is a connection I did not expect.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it makes me doubly glad that we had

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Speaker 2: good needs a good maddening science, just like we saw

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Speaker 3: Right to Madden, you up exactly, Yeah, and that would

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Speaker 3: back to Pat's message, Pat says Bella Lagosi is creepy

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Speaker 3: Thanks Pat, Yeah, I haven't seen it, but I'll put

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Speaker 2: Son of Frankenstein is I don't know where you wouldlass.

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Speaker 3: This kind of, uh, what we like, A non resonating

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure about this. This might be something

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Speaker 3: currently listening to your Super Mario Brothers Weird House Cinema episode.

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Speaker 3: From a couple of weeks ago. You had asked for

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Speaker 3: Winston's nineteen eighty eight supernatural horror revenge movie Pumpkinhead, which

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Speaker 3: bosses want to replace us all with. But anyway, humans

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Speaker 3: out there, I think that this may be a better

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Speaker 3: solution here. We can consult the wisdom of the crowd.

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Speaker 3: Can any of you figure out what Michelle might be

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Speaker 3: thinking of? If so, you can email us with your

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Speaker 3: with your candidate answers, contact at stuff to Blow your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this one doesn't ring a bell for me, but

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Speaker 2: but uh yeah, I think we've we've we've timed in

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Speaker 2: remember as a movie, and I think we all have

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Speaker 2: a situations like this as well. Like, like, for my part,

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Speaker 2: I remember being you know, the catching movies on TV,

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Speaker 2: and you'd see part of one as a kid, and

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Speaker 2: you don't get to watch the rest of it, so

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Speaker 2: you have even less context, but being like really floored

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Speaker 2: by it. One of them. I remember seeing part of

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Speaker 2: Nasica Valley of the Wind before I knew anything about Miyazaki,

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Speaker 2: and fortunately I came back around to that one and

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Speaker 2: got to experience it many more times. One of my

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Speaker 2: favorite movies. But then there's like another film where like

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Speaker 2: never found out what that is, but it and and

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Speaker 2: I guess maybe you know minute to men and it

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Speaker 2: doesn't concern me, but occasionally I'll think back and I'll

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Speaker 2: be like, wow, that I remember that really impacting me,

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Speaker 2: like the kids had lost their parents or something. And

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Speaker 2: and I've never looked up or been able to find

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Speaker 2: out what that movie was. So yeah, I think we

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Speaker 2: probably all, especially in the TV ah, we all have

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Speaker 2: cases like that. And we have to add into that that,

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Speaker 2: you know, the fact that our memories of movies are fallible. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: y'all are other memories, so like you can easily start

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Speaker 2: combining them, like yeah, like the kids were in the

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Speaker 2: you can easily get things like scrambled into movies that

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Speaker 3: One of his hands said love and the other ones

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Speaker 3: make sense.

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Speaker 2: The other hand had babysitting written on the knuckles because

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Speaker 2: he had multiple fingers on a monstrous CG a computer

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Speaker 3: It is funny, though, whenever you do this, like you

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Speaker 3: try to figure out what this memory is from the

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Speaker 3: piece of media, is almost always disappointing. It's like not

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Speaker 3: some epic, great film or something. It's the one that

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Speaker 3: really stuck in my mind is I I saw a

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Speaker 3: what is this? And I did searching around. I finally

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Speaker 3: it was like a Michael du dekof movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, they don't altern out to be nausicaa in

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Speaker 2: the end.

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Speaker 3: Oh, but hey, speaking of Nausica, that could be good

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Speaker 3: for Weird House. That's a weird and beautiful movie it is.

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Speaker 2: That's Uh, that's that's one. We might have to come

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Speaker 2: back to one of my favorites. And uh, and I

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Speaker 2: also have the the source material here in the house,

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Speaker 2: the original manga by by Miyazaki. Beautiful stuff.

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Speaker 3: All right, should we cap it there for today?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go ahead and close the mail bag for today,

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