1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast Podcast. 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: Pot all right, here we go fifteen hondy, twenty five, 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: thirty thirty five, forty forty five fifty and the kick 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: as block the college football world standers. 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Good bye, Oh my goodness, he stumbled, and football the lateral. 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 2: Turn a canter on the inside, get you the lad 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: table up the field to night. It's not the sage 8 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: on the dog in the fighting, it's the sage of 9 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: the fight in the roll. What's up the generation? Welcome 10 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 2: to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presented by Bett MGM. 11 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 2: This is the Big Ten college Football betting Preview. I'm 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: Stucky in joining me as always partner in crime Wilson. 13 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 2: Ready to talk some Big ten, which should be the 14 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: Big fourteen and the next year should be the Big Team. 15 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: What's going on? Con? 16 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: I loved your tweet about how you know we have 17 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: the Pac nine, we have the Big sixteen. We got 18 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 3: we got eleven, We got odd numbers all over the place. 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 3: With Colorado making their departure, I think the big news 20 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: for this conference is that Oregon and Washington are interested 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 3: in joining. The Big ten kind of wants them, but 22 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 3: they don't really want to be a part of like 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: you know, who killed the Pac twelve, So that's going 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: to be a weird fit. I still think USC UCLA, 25 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 3: which is all the talk you know around college football, 26 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: joining is a big deal. But that doesn't apply to 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: this season. I think we should enjoy this season. We 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: still have our divisions. We don't know what they're going 29 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 3: to do with them after this year. 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: You know. 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,639 Speaker 3: I think there are definitely betting opportunities and this version 32 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: of the Big Ten. I can't wait to see if 33 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 3: they're done expanding after we get done with this season. 34 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: If you haven't listened, by the way, check out our 35 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: Colin I recorded if you're listening to this now our 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: ACC and we're also going through the Group of five 37 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 2: Colin or I will be on with Mike and Mike, 38 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: so check those episodes as well. But we just did 39 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: the ACC in the Pac twelve, and one of the 40 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: things I loved about those breaking in those conferences is 41 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: they got rid of divisions. That's not the case this 42 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: year with the Big Ten. It will be next year. 43 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 2: Divisions will go away once they add those two teams 44 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: from the West Coast and who knows who else, and 45 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 2: they will have but it's still the East and the 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 2: West this year. I hate it. I'm going to enjoy 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 2: the last year of it. But it's just so unfair 48 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: to some of the teams. I mean, if you look 49 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: at the future odds, like Maryland is sixty to one 50 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: to win the Big Ten and Wisconsin's sixty to one 51 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: to win the national title, or they're also five to 52 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: one to win the Big Ten. That's just the discrepancy 53 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: in the divisions. So let's start in the East, the 54 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: ultra competitive East, which Michigan has won and back to 55 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 2: back years. Michigan at BETEMG and every as always shop around. 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: All the numbers I'm going to reference here are at BETMGM, 57 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: the official sponsor of the Big Best on Campus podcast. 58 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 2: Michigan and Ohio State are both priced at plus one 59 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: eighty to win the Big Ten, Penn State plus five fifty. 60 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: I think you can find a six to one out 61 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 2: there as far as win totals are concerned. Michigan over 62 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 2: ten and a half minus one twenty, Ohio State over 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: ten and a half minus one oh five, Penn State 64 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: a little lower over half minus one forty five. The 65 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: interesting thing here is that Michigan will host Ohio State 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: which is why they are gonna should get a little 67 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: an edge on two teams that are most people are 68 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: gonna have. Wad it pretty similarly. When I look at 69 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: all three of these teams, we'll group them together and 70 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: then we'll get to the rest of the East. And 71 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 2: for what it's worth, Penn State will host Michigan and 72 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: go to Ohio State. There's a really good chance that 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: this ends in a three way tie. And if it does. 74 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: If it does so, if and I think that's actually 75 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: going to happen, I think Penn State's gonna beat Michigan, Hio, 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 2: Michigan's going to beat Ohio State, and Ohio State's gonna 77 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: beat Penn State at home. If that does, and they 78 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: don't lose any other games, it will go down to 79 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: the fifth tiebreaker, which is non division opponents and their records. 80 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: And Penn State could actually be the odd man out 81 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: because they played Northwestern and Michigan and Ohio State don't, 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: so Penn State. You would look at the upon their 83 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 2: opponents from the West, Michigan Ohio State both were doing 84 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: in Minnesota. The difference is Michigan plays Nebraska, Ohio State 85 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: plays Wisconsin. So Ohio State's actually in better position than 86 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: Michigan because you assume that Wiscons's gonna finish with a 87 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 2: better record than Nebraska. That's the only difference. Penn State 88 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: has a drastically different opponent group. They have Iowa, who 89 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 2: could win a number of games. They have Illinois, so 90 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: there's are decent and then you have Northwestern who could 91 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: just have a DISASTERUS year. And then if that was 92 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: the case, most likely Ohio State would go. So if 93 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 2: you're looking at futures, keep that in mind. If that's 94 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: how it plays out, and everyone holds serve at home. 95 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: But before we get into all that, when I look 96 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: at these teams pretty similar. When I look at them 97 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 2: as in that Michigan's defense, Look, they lost some guys 98 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 2: into the defensive line. I do have questions about one 99 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 2: corner spot. But the defense should be really good. Their 100 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: offensive line is going to be great, Their running game 101 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: is going to be elite. Do have some question I 102 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 2: still have some question on McCarthy. The receivers are are good, 103 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 2: but not you know, at least something to be desired 104 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: for a team that wants to win a national title 105 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: Ohio State. I also have confidence in that defense this year. 106 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: Jim mainly Jim Knowles bump right year two of his scheme. 107 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 2: Do have some questions in the secondary, but I do. 108 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 2: I do trust their defense. But while their skill positions 109 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 2: are fine, I'm like, like, I'm not worried about their receivers. 110 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: I have the best receivers in the country. Do you 111 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: have a little bit of question about their own line 112 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: and quarterback? They're definitely a step back at the quarterback position. 113 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: Penn State. I know they lost Joey Porter Junior at corner, 114 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 2: so question at the corner. But I really like their 115 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,799 Speaker 2: defense this year again another all three of these defensive 116 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: coordinators I trust, I trust the units, and then you 117 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 2: have Drew Aller offensive line some questions, and then the 118 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: wide receiver room. We're gonna see it'scause they got to 119 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: prove it great running back room. So like, they all 120 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: have similar questions for me on offense, on offense, and 121 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: I trust their defenses. So what it comes down to 122 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 2: to me is that when I look at it from 123 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: you know, a futures perspective, Michigan last State might come 124 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: down to the last game for the win total. I 125 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: haven't priced. Similarly, I don't really see any value on 126 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: either team but Penn State, I don't want to take 127 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: them to win the Big Ten because they might lose 128 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: out on this tie breaker. 129 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: I have a future. 130 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: I know. 131 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: I've already made the bet. I can't wait to see 132 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: if you've got the same thing. We haven't compared to 133 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: the No, not at all. 134 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: Well, I haven't made a bet yet, so I was 135 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: gonna get your opinion on this, But if so, my 136 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: thoughts on Penn Stations. I really trust the defense, and 137 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: if Drew Aller hits and lives up to his potential, 138 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 2: you know, you could talk Heisman for him and or 139 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 2: Penn State playoff national title futures. I think that's the 140 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: play other than going in the Big Ten, because there 141 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 2: also is a path where Penn State doesn't make the 142 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: Big Ten title game and still gets in the College 143 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: Will Pluck. We saw that last year happened with two 144 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: Big Ten teams, so and I think I want that 145 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 2: high variance with a quarterback as talented as Aller are 146 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 2: stipposed to prove it. And there's the chance at Penn State, 147 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: you know, has the same record High State michig don't 148 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: get in the Big Ten title give, but it still 149 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: gets in the College Will playoff, which they have not 150 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: done yet, but this is the last chance we'll have 151 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: before it expands. So I'm looking at similar questions with 152 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: all these teams. I'm looking at Penn State futures in 153 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: one of those two realms. 154 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: I mean, listen podcasts, Nation Say and I have not talked, 155 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: we have not compared notes, and I have been very 156 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: very mum on what my future is going to be here. 157 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: And I've maybe told three people in my inner circle 158 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: what I'm buying, and I've actually laid a dime, and 159 00:07:58,240 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna like more dimes. 160 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: I have better numbers. So let's at age. 161 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: I really have no idea. 162 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're going down. 163 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: The same thinking path, the same ideology that I had. 164 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: And let me go through Michigan first, because I'm looking 165 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: for cracks between the three, right, Obviously, if I can 166 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 3: find an Avenue four crack, that's going to discount them 167 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: in the futures market. Okay, So when I start with Michigan, Yeah, 168 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 3: Blake Korum is coming back from running back. The offense 169 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: is going to be called by Sean Moore. It's not 170 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: a co situation. He's the one that's going to call it. 171 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: So you can expect more eleven inside zone, gap schemes, 172 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 3: lots of running from uh you know, he's the offensive 173 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: line coach. And then on the defensive side of the ball. 174 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 3: I have nothing negative to say about Jesse Minter, you know. 175 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 3: I mean he has been able to pick up Mike McDonald, 176 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: this whole defensive shift that they've had in the four 177 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: to two, five to cover one, cover three, heavy blitz, 178 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 3: heavy success rate and creating pressure. You're right, there are 179 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: some new faces here, but defensive tackle Chris Jenkins is 180 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: still linebacker Junior Colson is there. 181 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: And then you get to Harbaugh, who's going to be 182 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: suspended for four games? 183 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 2: Boat on Jim, don't gamble, don't associate with gamblers, avoid 184 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 2: it like the plague. Let's check in with bodog Jim. 185 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 2: Bodog Jim might be suspended. I don't know if it's 186 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: an announced four games. Cheaters. Don't associate with them, Yeah, 187 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: don't talk to them, don't associate with them. 188 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, sorry, Bodog Jim getting caught cheating. Wow, that's 189 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 3: a statement. So you know, I go down this path 190 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: with him and where the wrinkles at. Okay, Well, first off, 191 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: Searan Moore is completely in charge of the offense. 192 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: That's a change. I'm not saying it's a negative. I'm 193 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: saying it's a change. 194 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 3: Jim harbat not being there to me is twenty eighteen 195 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: Ohio State all over again. We docked the Buckeyes two 196 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: points back in twenty eighteen because of Urban Meyer being 197 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 3: suspended for the first three games. It didn't come into 198 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 3: play in their first two games, those two points of 199 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: power ready, but it came into play in game three 200 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: against TCU. TCUHO covered that game by half point, one point, 201 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 3: whatever number you got, And that's how narrow it is now. 202 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh doesn't call plays on either side of the ball. 203 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: He has in a while. 204 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: He may make a decision on fourth downs. He has 205 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 3: really trusted his coordinator. So I don't think it's that 206 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: big of a drop. You know, the offensive line is 207 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: being supplied by Stanford. You know some portal players are 208 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: coming in to fill in that offensive line. Great West, 209 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,599 Speaker 3: draw Perdue, Minny, Nebraska. I don't have a lot. I 210 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 3: think the one negative thing I could say about Michigan 211 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: is we've seen their ceiling. 212 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: They can't win the national title. 213 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: They can make the college football playoff when Ohio State stumbles, 214 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 3: and I think that's the best that they can do. 215 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: I think we've seen the best versions of Michigan. 216 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: You go to Ohio State, I have, and I think 217 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: that's I agree. 218 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: I think that's just the I just don't trust the upside, 219 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 2: like we've seen the upside of McCarthy and the passing game. 220 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: It's not the best wide receiver room in the world. 221 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: And I actually might bump Michigan with Harball out because 222 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 2: he hates scamblers. I'm just kidding. 223 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: Bick ahead, and then you move over to Ohio State, 224 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: and Ohio State stumbling is what has propelled Michigan up 225 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: to be a college football playoff team because forever it 226 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: was impossible to get to this point. 227 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: Now we have a new quarterback coming in, could be 228 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: some change there. 229 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: I mean, remember, we're looking for faults, cracks and you 230 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 3: know in the foundation to where maybe this team won't 231 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 3: make the College Roble playoff or win the Big Ten. 232 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: You get sixty five percent of your tackles and PBUs 233 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: are coming back, You're gonna have to replace some of those. 234 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: Linebacker Tommy Eichenberg is still there. On offense, you're just 235 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 3: as low as anyone. He's still the best, one of 236 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 3: the best wide receiver rooms in the nation. Trevon Henderson 237 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 3: is still there, you know, is Jim Knowles. I think 238 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: the big question there is Jim Knowle's going to run 239 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 3: cover zero against teams that are running play action pass, right, 240 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: I mean he burned all of us Buckeye backers so 241 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: bad last year by not switching out letting Johnson just 242 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 3: go down the field for six touchdowns. So you know, 243 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 3: I have questions at the quarterback position. 244 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: They do play no. 245 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: Line isn't just completely set in stone as it has 246 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: been in Ohio State two, So there's some question to 247 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 2: tackle for sure. 248 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And Day is not a part of 249 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 3: the offense like Brian Hartline is now calling the whole offense. 250 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: Does that help? Does that hurt? 251 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: Like I said, I'm looking for cracks, I'm looking for wrinkles, 252 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: and Ohio State's got a lot. All right, There's a 253 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: lot for me to question here. And the secondary, by 254 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: the way, not projected to be a top three secondary 255 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 3: in the Big Ten. So if you're still going to 256 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 3: give up explosives, you know, if play action pass is 257 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 3: still burning you and you're running cover zero, could. 258 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: Still be a problem. 259 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 3: Now we get to the team that I can't stop 260 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:17,119 Speaker 3: thinking about, and again I can't stop buying Bowman University chrome. 261 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: Cards of autographed Drew Hour. Drow Hour is huge. 262 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: You know, I kind of discount freshman seasons, especially when 263 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: your offensive coordinators Mike gear such. When my year such 264 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: took over at Penn State, we saw an immediate impact 265 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: on Sean Clifford. We saw less turnover worthy plays, we 266 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 3: saw more big time throws, we saw adjusted accuracies go 267 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 3: up and pressured pockets. The decision making was just better. 268 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 3: Now is that I think the jump for Hour, We're 269 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: not going to know. We don't really know what his 270 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: ceiling is, nor do we know what the ceiling is 271 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 3: on this Penn State team. 272 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: This is and I'd put money on it right now, 273 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: and I don't know how we great it. 274 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: This is the best defense in college football by far. 275 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 3: I think this team raced out to one hundred pbu's 276 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: last year, like by game seven. That's not going to change. 277 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: You know, you got you know, Kaylen King at cornerback, 278 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 3: Abdul Carter, Curtis Jackson and the linebackers both play excellent 279 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: pass coverage. 280 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: And then when you go to the offensive side of 281 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: the ball. 282 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 3: I saw Nick Singleton and the Rose Bowl, and I mean, 283 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 3: I mean, he's just he's unbelievable in space. You want 284 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 3: to talk about creating yards after contact, so you know, 285 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: and you also have one of the best offensive. 286 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 2: Much better, yeah, should have much better offensive line injury 287 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: left too. Now you have one of the best potential 288 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: top five pick a left tackle. 289 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Olu Fashanu. I mean, one of the best offensive 290 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 3: tackles in college role, maybe the best. And then you 291 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: go to the one area where you know, Manny Diaz 292 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: was is a great coordinator. He's not a head coach. 293 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 3: He is a great coordinator, and he runs multiple packages, 294 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: cover three, high blitz. The coordinators are great. The talent 295 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: on defense is the best in the nation. The only 296 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 3: question mark is Drew Holler, and I worried about that. 297 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: Everybody beating themselves. And I'm glad that you did a 298 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: schedule deep dog because it doesn't favor Penn State. But 299 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: my bet that I've already thrown money on is Penn 300 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 3: State to make the college Playoff at plus four to forty. 301 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: Don't ask me how I hedge it, because I don't know. 302 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: But all I know is is they've got to win 303 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: one when it comes to Michigan and Ohio State, and 304 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 3: one of them they get a home and one of 305 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 3: them they go on the road. And they always play 306 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 3: Ohio State extremely tight. These games are extremely tight. And 307 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 3: here's the deal. If I don't make the College Football 308 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 3: Playoff with this bet on Penn State because of James Franklin, fine, 309 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: I lost because of the head coach. Maybe there's a 310 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: fourth down decision that screws us. I don't know, but 311 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: based on talent and stability and the fact that defense 312 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 3: wins ball games in this conference. I mean, I don't 313 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: want the big ten number, it's not good enough. But 314 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: to make the playoff at plus four forty, it's out there, 315 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: go get it. And if I can find a better number, 316 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: which I've been on the search for, I'm going to 317 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: take it again because I love this team and I 318 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: think they and there is a book out there offering 319 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 3: exact wins, and I've played. 320 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: A little bit of Penn State at eleven. 321 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 3: It's that might not be available to everybody, but I 322 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 3: see this as an eleven one team. I see them 323 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: right there in the fourth, fifth, sixth slot in the 324 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 3: very last college football playoff ranking, and I think that 325 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 3: this future has got legs. 326 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: Yep, love it. I'm going to step further out. I'm 327 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: going to take the I'm going to take the best 328 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: number out there, do some line shopping and wait waiting 329 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 2: on some of these from when the pottyats come out. 330 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: National title, national title, national title, national title. I'll i'll 331 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: tables a playoffs too with you. But I'm also going 332 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: to tabble the plot because my thinking is that if 333 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: they win the Big Ten outright, they probably had to 334 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 2: beat Ohio State and Michigan, Ohios at Michigan slept up 335 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: up elsewhere. That means like al really exceeded expectations in 336 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 2: this offense. Is finally, but if if win the Big 337 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: Ten or they get to the college to a playoff, 338 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 2: that means our exceeded or lived up to is you know, 339 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: lofty expectations. And that's really all they need with this defense. 340 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: And that means to me, with the landscape of college 341 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: football this year, that they're fully capable of winning the 342 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: national title. And I would love to have what a 343 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: twenty thirty to one in my pocket. 344 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: Something else about dual when I mentioned Mike Gears, such 345 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: cleaning up Sean Clifford. Drew Aller had seventy one dropbacks 346 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 3: last year, no interceptions, no turnover worthy plays in those 347 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: seventy one drop backs. 348 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: I can get behind this all day. 349 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 2: I think Penn State is finally back, right. It's like 350 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 2: that that ten years of kind of purgatory and fighting 351 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: to get back to where they are. Tell you one thing, 352 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: my dad is going to be very happy to listen 353 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 2: and listen to all our podcasts. And I've never given 354 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 2: Ben State love this much love on a national stage 355 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: or a future until this year. So I'll finally be 356 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 2: rooting for him. You agree, win total State about right, right, don't? 357 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 358 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: The numbers are right, ten point nine ten, like they're 359 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 3: right there, juiced properly. 360 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, if I had a guess, probably comes out of 361 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: that last game, which is probably going to be close to, 362 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 2: you know, within a field goal. 363 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: Hopefully it's a meaningless because our Penn States are advancing 364 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 3: into the Big Ten championship. Hopefully that's a meaningless game 365 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: other than win total. 366 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be really interesting. Maybe we'll get some complete 367 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: chaos with these Big Ten divisional tie breakers in their 368 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: last year, which would be very fitting. But let's talk 369 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: the rest of the Big East. We have Maryland going 370 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 2: to list the odds to win the Big Ten Maryland 371 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 2: sixty to one, Michigan State one hundred and fifty to one, 372 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 2: Rutgers two hundred and one, Indiana two hundred and fifty 373 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: to one. You know, we'll start with Maryland at sixty 374 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: to one. Jason Football, that's what Maryland does. You know, 375 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of you know, people are really 376 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 2: high on this team. They bring back a quarterback. By 377 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: the way, in this conference, I don't you're my notes right? 378 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: The only three were the only returning quarterbacks out of 379 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: fourteen teams are Rutgers, Michigan, and Maryland. I think that's it. 380 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: Quarterback, Yeah, Maryland aso's experienced quarterback in the conference. 381 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, three out of fourteen. For what it's about, 382 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: those four new head coaches Nebraska, Northwestern, Perdue in Wisconsin 383 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: all in the West, seven new offensive coordinators, five new 384 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 2: defensive coordinators, eleven new quarterbacks and there's only one team 385 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: that has the same head coach offense, corner, defense, corner 386 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 2: a quarterback. That's Michigan that they have going for them. 387 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: A lot of new quarterbacks and then some rebuilding in 388 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 2: the West. We're going to stay in the East. With Maryland, 389 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 2: you know, they haven't experienced talented quarterback second year DC, 390 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: but they lost a lot on you know, in the trenches. 391 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: They always want talented wide receivers, but they did lose 392 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: a lot at receiver. Can they win like I should 393 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: mention their wgital over seven and a half plus one twenty. 394 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 2: Can they win a game against a ranked team? Can 395 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 2: they beat a good team? They're three and twenty two 396 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: versus Penn State, Ohio State, and Michigan in the Big Ten. 397 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: I have questions in the trenches. It's Josh Gaddis we 398 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: really trust him. They also lost their star kicker, which 399 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: could be important in close games. They do have an 400 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: easy non conference schedule to kind of build some momentum 401 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 2: with tals in Charlotte, Virginia that at Michigan State, then 402 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: home against Indiana probably be five and zero before going 403 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 2: to Ohio State. They do avoid Wisconsin and Iowa out 404 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: of the West as well. So there's a lot of 405 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: things to like about the Terps. What are your thoughts 406 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: There any value here either way on their win total 407 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: or taking a shot. 408 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: There is an over seven minus one thirty out there 409 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 3: would I would tell everybody that that is the play 410 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: I have partaken in that myself. This is one of 411 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 3: the best quarterbacks at least from an experienced perspective and 412 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 3: an explosive passing perspective in Talia Tago Bayola is. 413 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 1: Wide receiver Jashaun Jones. 414 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 3: You know they're going to have a very explosive offense 415 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 3: for at the quarterback and wide receiver position. I'm scared 416 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: of the offensive line. They returned fifty percent of their 417 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 3: snaps on the offensive line, the defense loses sixty percent 418 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: of their pressures. Not that it was that great anyways. 419 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: They only had one hundred and twentieth in pass rush 420 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 3: last year. But then you go when you look at 421 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: the schedule, like you mentioned Stuck, and if you look 422 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 3: at who they play from the West, Illinois at Nebraska, 423 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: we'll get to that. I'm not scared of that game 424 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 3: at Northwestern. We'll talk about them. That's not a tough 425 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 3: pull from the West. You didn't get Iowa, you didn't 426 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: get Wisconsin, right, and then when you look at the 427 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: non conference, you know taosand Charlotte, you know the Fighting 428 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:58,679 Speaker 3: Biff Pogies. 429 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: You can't wait to get to that. 430 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: I tell people that I'm coming to Charlotte, I bet 431 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 2: ninety percent of the guys in football Land to say 432 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 2: that is a gold mine. 433 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: And then Virginia. 434 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a pretty soft schedule where the 435 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 3: biggest problem with Maryland is their havoc allowed. They finished 436 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 3: ninety third and havoc allowed, and then they lose half 437 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 3: their offensive line snaps, So Tacko Baola is going to 438 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 3: be running for his life shooting guys thirty forty yards 439 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 3: down the field, more explosive plays with whatever system Gatus 440 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 3: is trying to create, speed and space or whatever the 441 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 3: hell it is. So I have confidence that they can 442 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: outscore the non blue blood names on this roster. Look 443 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: at the Big ten travel schedule outside of Ohio State, 444 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: Michigan State not a problem, Nebraska not a problem, Northwestern 445 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 3: Rutgers not scared of any of this. So I'm going 446 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 3: over seven. I would rather have the seven, not that 447 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: seven and a half. I would pay the juice. 448 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: And because I project this like eight point two, so 449 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: over Maryland for me. 450 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. The one thing that I am worried about with 451 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: my pen state future, and maybe this is year America 452 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: can finally pull off one of these upsets of a 453 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 2: ranked team in the Big Ten is the spot for 454 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 2: Penn State. And if you have a Michigan if you're 455 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: a Michigan fan or have a Michigan future, you're probably 456 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 2: worried about that too. Another thing that kind of favors 457 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 2: Ohio State is Ohio State. They host Maryland and they 458 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 2: have a bye the week before, and then it's Purdue 459 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: the week after Michigan. You know, they go to Maryland 460 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: in between Penn State and Ohio State like trappy, whatever 461 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 2: term you want to use, sandwichee. We sure have a 462 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 2: lot of sandwiches. And then Penn State goes to Maryland 463 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: the week before they play Michigan. So Maryland gets to 464 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 2: host both of those teams. Like I mentioned, they also 465 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: avoid Wisconsin and Iowa. They really should start five to 466 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 2: oh and build a lot of momentum here. I mean, 467 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: I just I'm afraid to Backlan and gadis. 468 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 3: Essentially saying the road to the Big Ten championship runs 469 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 3: through College Park. 470 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: I think That's what I'm hearing you say. 471 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 2: It does. It does, so I'm sure Maryland will be 472 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: whole game with throw a pick six and not cover 473 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: at the end with a chance to win. No, I'm 474 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 2: not still bitter about that Spenn State. All right, let's 475 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: talk about the dregs of the eastport in the West, 476 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: Michigan State one hundred and fifty to one. They play 477 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: at Meda at Iowa, and they get nebrask at home 478 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 2: from the West. They're also at Indiana and at Rutgers. 479 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: Like that's horrendous. Like those are the two worst teams 480 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: in the East and you got to go on their 481 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: road for both. Michigan State, I mean they lost their defense. 482 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't get any worse, but they lost 483 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: some talented pieces. You hope they get some better injury luck. 484 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: But they lost their you know, one receiver to the NFL. 485 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 2: They lose their quarterback and their top receiver after spring. 486 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: The three way competition, it's a mess. And based on 487 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 2: they're mel Tucker's history, he's not going to name a 488 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 2: starter until like a minute before kick. If you go 489 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 2: back to twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, Michigan State's a mess. Indiana, 490 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,919 Speaker 2: I mean, they're all a mess. They bring back I 491 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 2: mean almost nothing. This is a complete rebuild. I don't 492 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 2: know where do you have them as far as returning production, 493 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 2: got to be way down there. 494 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty offense fifty defense. So it's bad. 495 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean they lost their two best linebackers, although 496 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 2: they were hurt last year, but they lost their top 497 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: four corners on the depth chart. It's you know, the 498 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 2: offensive line finally has some experience, and you hope the 499 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 2: quarterback play gets better. And again another competition here, bottom 500 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: ten in returning experience. So they're a mess to Indiana 501 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 2: over three and a half minus one thirty for what 502 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 2: it's worth. And then you have Rutgers. They lost the 503 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: schedule lottery as well, along with Michigan State. Not only 504 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 2: is Rutgers in the brutal East, they drew Iowa and 505 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: Wisconsin from the west both away. They also get Wisconsin 506 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 2: and Michigan State off of buys. It's just I mean, 507 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 2: and their right week is before Ohio State. I mean, 508 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 2: how much is that really going to help you. It's 509 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 2: a really tough schedule. I'm gonna focus just on Rutgers. 510 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: I like the over it's over four and a half 511 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 2: minus one oh five. There's a new offensive coordinator in town. 512 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: It's like ten. The o help the d out at 513 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: all because I think the d is going to be 514 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: pretty solid, even more solid if they can ever get 515 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: any help. So but I look at the schedule, it's like, 516 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: all right, Northwestern, who's a mess. They really benefit from that. 517 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: They also benefit from the mess of Michigan State. But 518 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 2: Northwestern Temple and vaugh Tech at home to start at 519 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 2: Michigan's are lost and they're home against Wagner. I mean, 520 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: that's really really good shot to start four and one. 521 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 2: Then you just need one more win. It's like, you 522 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: host Michigan State, you go to Indiana. We just talked 523 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 2: about how much of a mess those teams are. You know, 524 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 2: you also host Maryland in the finale. Because the schedule 525 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 2: at the Michigan after Indiana, it's really tough with a 526 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 2: lot of state at Iowa a Penn state. So, you know, 527 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: I like the oc hire. I think the offense will 528 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 2: be a little bit better and more competent. They do 529 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: have a returning quarterback, which most of these teams are 530 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: the Big Ten. Don't expect a little step forward from Winsap. 531 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: The offensive line I think with a new offensive line 532 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 2: coach could be improved. I am worried about, you know, 533 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 2: losing their punter. Our guy which is like such a 534 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: weapon for them, But if their offense is a little better, 535 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: it wouldn't It's not going to be as important. And 536 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 2: I think it'll help the defense out, which is solid 537 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: and deep, and I think Rutgers is sneaky to get 538 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: to at least five wins. I show value in their 539 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: win total over but let me get your thoughts on 540 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 2: the dregs of the East between Rutgers, Indiana and Michigan State. 541 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 3: Rutgers I had projected in three and a half as 542 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 3: a win total, so I can't really say I'm going 543 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: under because I do like the. 544 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: Direction that they're heading. Great quarterback coach. 545 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: The one hesitation I have there is Greg Sheianho fired 546 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 3: him in twenty. 547 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 1: Ten off his own staff, So yeah, that's. 548 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 3: Kind of interesting, But you know, it's a complete reset 549 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 3: of the offensive coaching staff. The defense is going to 550 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: be fine under Shanno Top twenty five and tackling and 551 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: passing downs defense. They don't like to allow a lot 552 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: of explosives. It's a manageable schedule. They were they were 553 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 3: terrible on offensively and third downs. If they get any 554 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: kind of regression to the mean of mid tier bad 555 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 3: teams in big ten. 556 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: Then they're gonna be able to win a few games 557 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: that they shouldn't. 558 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 3: So I'll let you run with that one. The one 559 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 3: that I'm on is the under on Michigan State. I 560 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: don't know what happened to mel Tucker after he signed 561 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 3: that huge contract because there's just not a lot of 562 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 3: not a lot of positivities that have happened since then. 563 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 2: The resume is on the tape. I'm a horseship football 564 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: coach right now. By the way, before you keep going, 565 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: this won't happened with a lot of our previews. But 566 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: we start off on the same page of Penn State. 567 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 2: And again we don't share notes because before any of 568 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: this or talk about any of this, because we just 569 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 2: find it more interesting for the audience and for the podcast. 570 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 2: But we have our three now, which we're gonna do 571 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: at the end of every conference preview, which is our 572 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: you know, a future week one take, and over and 573 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: under on the same page of Penn State. My I 574 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: just hinted one of the overs I like with Rutgers. 575 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: My under is Michigan State. 576 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: Well, I'll help you fill out those bullet points. I 577 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 3: mean Peyton Thorn departing after the spring game. Was he 578 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: really told after the spring game you're not going to 579 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 3: be the starter, or was the poached by Hugh Freeze 580 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 3: at Auburn. We don't know, But what I do know 581 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 3: is that Noah Kim's got like what fourteen passing attempts. 582 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 3: I mean, they're bringing back six percent experience there forty 583 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 3: two percent of your offensive lines. That's a mess on 584 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 3: defensive side, where Scotty Hazelton is supposed to be fantastic 585 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 3: as a defensive coordinator fell to one hundred and twenty 586 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 3: second in coverage grading. 587 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: You know that's I mean, Iowa's going to beat them. 588 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 3: They have Iowa from the West going to beat them. 589 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: You know, at the time they played Nebraska, come November, 590 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 3: Nebraska maybe ready to start winning some games in the 591 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 3: new system that we'll. 592 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: Talk about here in a little bit. 593 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 3: But you know, I can't get over can't control the 594 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage on offense one hundred and fourth in 595 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 3: line yards, you don't have your offensive line. And on defense, 596 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 3: you can't stop explosive plays and you can't saw people from. 597 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 1: Passing on you. And that's a really bad combination in 598 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: this division. So I'm going to go under. 599 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 3: There's a minus one sixty five on five and a half, 600 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 3: I would rather do under five. Also, I know everybody 601 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: one of my first Game of the Years and articles 602 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: I wrote months ago was Washington, and I believe minus 603 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: six or minus seven I bought going to Michigan. 604 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: Say that number is ballooned out to twelve. I would 605 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: not be. 606 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: Surprised to see that creep up to fourteen. So if 607 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 3: you're still interested in that, I don't think there's a 608 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 3: lot of value, but there's still a little bit of 609 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: value on Washington up till about thirteen and a half 610 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 3: in that Game of the Year against Michigan State, because 611 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 3: when I think Michael Pennix and Roma Duns and going 612 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 3: to Michigan State against his secondary all I can see 613 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 3: is the Huskies up by forty at halftime. 614 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: So keep that in mind. But that's definitely my under 615 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: for the podcast. 616 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree with the under. If you want 617 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: to play Devil's advocate, you would say that the offensive line, 618 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 2: which has been a disaster, you know, they're bringing a 619 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: lot of experience back. I think all five that started 620 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: in the finale, you hope that it gets better. Also, 621 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: do you hope that the you know, turnover luck and 622 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: injury luck on the defensive side gets better, but I mean, 623 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: the defense is such a disaster, and you lose your 624 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: top two defensive backs from last year one to the NFL, 625 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: but it's hard to imagine they get worse. But yeah, 626 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 2: I completely agree that this is a mess. I just 627 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: don't believe in with the direction that this programs going 628 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: in any longer. And the transfers out after spring really 629 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: speak to that. And they have arguably one of the 630 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 2: five hardest schedules in the country. They you know, they 631 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: they're at Many and at Iowa and then gett Nebraska 632 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: out of the West. That's tough. Also Washington non conference, 633 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: and then you will as always, you get Michigan, Penn State, 634 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 2: Ohio State, and then as you mentioned, you get Nebraska 635 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 2: later in the year, which is a rebuild. You also 636 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 2: at Indiana later in the year, sandwich between Ohio State 637 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: and Penn State sandwiches. Indiana is a complete rebuild, and 638 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: that's later in the year in a bad spot. And 639 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: again that you were like, oh, Indiana should be one 640 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: of our wins. That's tough as well. You know, you're 641 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: at Rutgers in between Iowa and Michigan. So there's some 642 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 2: tough spots on the schedule and like where they're playing 643 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: the teams, and I just don't believe in anything that 644 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: is going on here. So yeah, I agree, I like 645 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: under five and I have to don't mind the under 646 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: five play as well. On Michigan State. Indiana is a 647 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: complete mess. But I think, I mean, just to quickly 648 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: touch on them, we'll see the Walt Bell Air at 649 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: oh what it can do. And but there's a lot 650 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: of transfers coming in to try and sixteen to try 651 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: and plug some of these holes on defense. So we'll 652 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 2: see if Indiana can surprise. I'm not betting under three 653 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: and a half. I mean, look, they have and by 654 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: the way, Michigan State only three home games in the 655 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: Big Ten because they play who do they play, they 656 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 2: play someone in Wrigley or know, they played Penn State 657 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: in Detroit, so that's not on campus. They only have 658 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: three true Big Ten home games. But Indiana, I mean 659 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: they do have Indiana State at home, accurate at home, 660 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 2: so like that should be your floor of two wins, 661 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 2: and then you know, you have Rutgers at home, Michigan 662 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: State at home, and then you maybe maybe they steal 663 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: one of their little bet you know, at Purdue in 664 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: the finale. So there's there's chances for Indiana to get 665 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 2: to four wins even if they have a really poor year. 666 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: I think the number is right there. Do you agree? 667 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? I agree. I'm at three point two. 668 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 3: And the reason I'm taking the under three and a 669 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 3: half that's juiced at plus one twenty five is that 670 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: Michigan State game is in such a bad spot for 671 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 3: the Spartans on November eighteenth, right, I mean, that is 672 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 3: such a trap game that Indiana can steal and that 673 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: could be the one that decides it. And I'm not 674 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: trying to sit around on that, you know, the weekend 675 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 3: before Thanksgiving hoping Michigan State wins a game, hoping you know, 676 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: they may be sit around a two or three wins, 677 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: hoping that they win the game to keep this going under. 678 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 3: You know, Indiana is gonna go with Walt Bell. You know, 679 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 3: we've I have not seen Walt Bell take over an 680 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 3: offense at Florida State or UMass or any of his 681 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 3: stops where the offense has improved where he left it 682 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 3: in a better spot. You know, even the quarterback battle 683 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 3: that you know, tav on Jackson Brendan sowersby I mean 684 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 3: it's it doesn't. 685 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: Matter are how are we at value above replacement level? 686 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: Where it's it's a tough roster to try to back 687 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 3: in this division. So I'm gonna lay off the under 688 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 3: because of that spot against Michigan State. 689 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: COO we go any further. As a reminder, Big Bets 690 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: on Campus is presented by bet MGM, So get it 691 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: on the action with the King of Sports Books. 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All right, as we want 721 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 2: to the West, where Wisconsin is the preseason favorite at 722 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: plus five point fifty to win the Big Ten I 723 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 2: think to win the division. We pull up the division 724 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: of the latest division odds at BETMGM. They are plus 725 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: one ten to win the West. Then you have Iowa, 726 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: who's ten to one to win the Big Ten, Minnesota 727 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: thirty to one, Illinois fifty to one, Nebraska sixty to one, 728 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 2: PERDU one hundred to one, and Rebel's beloved Northwestern Wildcats 729 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty one. This division is a mess. 730 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: I mean there are four new head coaches. There are 731 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: I believe seven new quarterbacks. Every team has a new 732 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 2: quarterback in this division. Double check my math. Yeah, every 733 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 2: team is a new quarterback in the division. There are 734 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: scheme changes across the board. There are gambling investigations in 735 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 2: the state of Iowa. There are hazing firings at Northwestern 736 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 2: Cats Cats, there are like some complete rebuilt Wisconsin's going 737 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: to run an array like what I would need to 738 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: average twenty five points per game for we have innepotism. 739 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 2: You and we got what he's going on. 740 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: We got contracts on Brian Farentz scoring certain points per game, 741 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: even those defense may cash that end for him more. 742 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 2: Oh else, Yeah, by the way, the yeah, he's got 743 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 2: a hope that what conspiracy theory ferrents frames the Iowa 744 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: punter for a gambling investigation so that they can't pin 745 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 2: team steep. Although that's how IOA scores a lot with 746 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 2: like safeties, maybe that's how they get the twenty five 747 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: points per game. But yeah, also minute Fleck is like 748 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,479 Speaker 2: under fire for hazing. Yep, people, I know everyone gets 749 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: canceled for everything, but like we're going back to twenty 750 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: eighteen for to and finding out that Fleck punished his 751 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: team with exercise. Like the people complaining about this tell 752 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 2: me you've never played sports without telling me you never 753 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 2: played sports, Like that's what you do. We played football, 754 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 2: go run hills Like that's okay, we don't have to. 755 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: I ran, you played football. 756 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: I played. I ran. 757 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: You ran when you got in trouble, like if your 758 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 3: kicker missed a field goal, you had to run for 759 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 3: an extra thirty minutes. 760 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 2: You know, I mean you ran, that's what you do 761 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 2: and it also helps you get in shape. It's like 762 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 2: not just a purely punitive thing crazy. I mean, this 763 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: division is a complete just mess. Let's start high level 764 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 2: anything from a futurest perspective to win the division, any 765 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: value for the conference? Like is it worth taking a 766 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 2: shot with any of these teams because there's just so 767 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 2: much chaos, Like, say, wisconcept this identity change? Right? Yeah, 768 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: I like what they're doing. I like the higher but 769 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 2: it's like it's a lot of change. It's a completely 770 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: new offense. You know, you're bringing in a quarterback that 771 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 2: and it's a scheme that's just a complete one. Any 772 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: from what Wisconsin it's been doing. There's most likely going 773 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 2: to be some growing pains and this is a complete 774 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: identity shift for a team. Iowa, you know, should have 775 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,800 Speaker 2: a great defense. Again, the special teams could be really special. 776 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 2: Once again McCarthy comes in at quarterback. We'll see if 777 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: he can give the offense some juice. Finally, the offensive line, 778 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 2: I will say for Iowas should be better. That's usually 779 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: a strength. There was a weakness last year, but they 780 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: were so young and that's one of the things you 781 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 2: can usually count on Kirk Freens to have great special 782 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 2: teams and develop offensive linemen, so that unit should improve, 783 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:57,760 Speaker 2: which should help the offense. And I think McCarthy definitely 784 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 2: is an upgrade at quarterback. Illinois had a great year 785 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 2: last year, but that defense should take a step back. 786 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: I mean, you lose four guys now that are on 787 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,239 Speaker 2: NFL rosters from that secondary. So we'll see if that 788 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: I think there are defense will take a step back, 789 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 2: their offense might take a step up. With Altmeyer quarterback Minnesota. 790 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 2: Meanwhile new quarterback the Greek Gunslinger. You know, they have 791 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 2: the lots of a place. I'm worried about their secondary 792 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: as well, and they're not able to generate pressure and 793 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 2: if they can't with some of their secondary losses, that 794 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 2: could be problematic. Nebraska complete rebuild, identity shift. You know 795 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: with Rule coming in, he's a turnaround artist, but what 796 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: has he done in the first year of his previous stops. 797 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 2: It's like one win, two win. It's all about the 798 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: culture change. But look it's a wide open division. Northwestern 799 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 2: a mess, complete disaster, quarterback battle, I mean, the hazing 800 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 2: Fitzgerald gone, They're gonna be really bad. And then Purdue 801 00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 2: another coaching change, the team change, coach defensive quarter head coach. 802 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 2: And by the way, Illinois might miss Walters as well, 803 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 2: who goes to Purdue as the head coach. And Purdue 804 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 2: obviously uses two of their key pass catches to the NFL, 805 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 2: So makes some sense of the Big Ten West. 806 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 3: Well, when you have the talent that Wisconsin has, you 807 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 3: pencil them in to represent the West in the Big 808 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 3: Ten championship game. My hardburn comes with a unit of 809 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 3: offensive linemen that were hired, that were recruited to run 810 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 3: one kind of offense, which is plow massive holes for 811 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 3: brayln Allen, and now they're going to be asked to 812 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 3: swap in sixty to seventy percent rush rate for about 813 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 3: a forty nine percent rush rate and learn how to 814 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 3: pass block. So, in case you have been living under 815 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 3: a rock, Phil Longo has left North Carolina and he's 816 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 3: come to Wisconsin. If you know anything about Old Miss 817 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: and North Carolina, Phil Longo offenses. 818 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: He likes to run fast. Last year, Wisconsin one hundred 819 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: and twenty first in tempo. Longo has averaged between tenth 820 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,360 Speaker 1: and twenty fifth fastest in the nation when running his 821 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: I mean there are years he's been top five and 822 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: so my question comes. How much gas do these guys 823 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: have in the first part of their schedule, you know, 824 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: are the pass blocking schemes and update to something that 825 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: they weren't recruited for and have never done before. 826 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 3: I still expect them in the run game to absolutely 827 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 3: plow through everybody. And then the defense. I have actually 828 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,760 Speaker 3: a lot less worries about the defense with Mike Tressel 829 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 3: and DC Luke Fickle intew I mean seventy two percent 830 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 3: of their tackles and pressure's return, So I think that 831 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 3: is bankable. And then when you look at the East schedule, 832 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 3: Rutgers in Indiana completely manageable. 833 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 1: Right, you do have to play Ohio State. That's kind 834 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:37,879 Speaker 1: of a notch. 835 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 3: I think if you were going to go against Wisconsin 836 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 3: in this division you would point to that. But I'm 837 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 3: telling this stuff from like a roster talent perspective. It's there, 838 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 3: does the schemes fit? And when I mentioned that, and 839 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 3: we talk about running and your conditioning, maybe conditioning catches 840 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 3: on to Wisconsin in the fourth quarter against Buffalo, Washington 841 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 3: State and Georgia Southern, and then maybe by the time 842 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 3: they run into purduerunning one hundred plays a game and 843 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 3: they have no problem running one hundred plays a game 844 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 3: that just wasn't Wisconsin football before. So I get a 845 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 3: little like I could see first half over is being 846 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 3: played against Buffalo, first half over being played against Washington 847 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 3: State until they get their legs in them. But I 848 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 3: just can't buy a division future with this much change 849 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 3: going on in the background. And that stinks because this 850 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 3: is probably the most talented roster. So this will be 851 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 3: the biggest tempo change that you see. 852 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: I do like the over eight and a half. It 853 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: is juiced. 854 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 3: I project them nine point one, so I would look 855 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 3: that way with Wisconsin. I don't know what team we 856 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: want to dive into here, but you're right, Illinois is 857 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 3: going to miss Walters. On the defensive side of the ball. 858 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 3: Brett Bieleman now has got to recover. You know, he's 859 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 3: I mean they finished outside the top one hundred and 860 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 3: offensive finishing drives. Barry Lenny comes in, boy quarterback I 861 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 3: used to go against in high school. Barry Lenny junior 862 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 3: comes in to run the offense. You're going to see 863 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 3: some inside zone and counter. You know, Altmeyer is he's 864 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 3: a head of paddock. After the spring game, this might 865 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 3: be the best defensive line in the Big ten. But 866 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 3: there are massive losses at running back in secondary, big 867 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 3: holes that are going to be tough to fill, especially 868 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 3: with the offense that they weren't a round with Barry 869 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 3: Money and the defense that you're gonna need if Wisconsin 870 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,239 Speaker 3: decides they're gonna start airing it out on every play, 871 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 3: and you've got questions in the secondary. 872 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: And they they need to find a way to get 873 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 2: pressure becuse they could not do that at all last year. 874 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the trench, this isn't a Brett Beilam a 875 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 3: trench that were used to. We're used to that trench 876 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,359 Speaker 3: being just you know, I mean, there was a game 877 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,720 Speaker 3: where they man handled Penn State and they've they've given 878 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 3: Michigan problems in the past, but now this offensive line 879 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 3: and defensive line are not expected to be within the 880 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 3: top four of the entire conference. So I have problems 881 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 3: with them. I do make it seven point three. I'm 882 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 3: going to pass. I'm not going to take anything on 883 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 3: the over here, but I don't think Michigan, I'm sorry, 884 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 3: Illinois completely falls off the table, but they could. And 885 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 3: then we come to Iowa and man, what there's am 886 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 3: I reading this number correctly? 887 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: Out there? 888 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 3: Under eight plus one twenty five. I mean, how does 889 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 3: this Iowa team get to nine wins? 890 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 1: It's really hard. 891 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 3: I mean between came McNamara's coming in from the portal 892 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 3: for Michigan. He's going to be under Brian Fenci's system. 893 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 3: But there's not going to be a change to the 894 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 3: twelve and the inside zone the outside zone. The Iowa 895 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 3: offense is not going to change, even though they have 896 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 3: better players at the baby at the quarterback position they've 897 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 3: had in years, Like if seventy four percent of their 898 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 3: offensive line stamps back, special teams are not going to 899 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 3: die off whatsoever. The problem with them in the schedule. 900 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 3: They do have Penn State on the schedule, so you 901 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 3: know Wisconsin as Ohio state. Iowa has Penn State the 902 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 3: number one top coverage defense and all the nation last year. 903 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 3: Don't expect to drop off there. But on the offensive side, 904 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 3: they finished one hundred and thirtieth in pass blocking and 905 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 3: if Kve McNamara is going to make a difference, it's 906 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 3: not going to be with a whole bunch of guys 907 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 3: on his back. So you know, I don't know, how 908 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 3: do you see I I mean, I don't know what 909 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 3: you have Iowa at I have them at seven wins. 910 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 3: This under eight juiced you know to the over. Really 911 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,040 Speaker 3: I was gonna win nine games on this schedule. 912 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you can get I think a betemge 913 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 2: of there, you can get under eight and a half choosed. 914 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 2: I mean, what I will say with Iowa is like 915 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 2: you can always trust the defense is gonna be good. 916 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 2: And I do think their off it's gonna better. McCarthy's 917 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 2: better offensive line should be better. That in of itself 918 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,919 Speaker 2: should help. And they look they're gonna steal a couple 919 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 2: of games if that's the case, because they're the best 920 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 2: punter in the country. Their special teams will be elite. 921 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 2: Like if you look at their schedule, like the two 922 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 2: teams that won the lottery, I would say Wisconsin definitely. 923 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 2: That's and I agree on Wisconsin the over. I do 924 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 2: have questions about, like the scheme fit, but it's over 925 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: nothing there for me from a number's perspective. They draw 926 00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 2: you know, they host Ohio State and then they get 927 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 2: They're at Indiana and Rutgers from the east. That's a win. 928 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 2: They also host Iowa, that's huge. Iowa does go to 929 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 2: Penn State, but they get Rutgers in Michigan State at home. 930 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 2: From the East. They also avoid Michigan and Ohio State. 931 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 2: If you look at Iowa's schedule, it's what they have 932 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 2: a great home field advantage. If they take care of 933 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 2: business at home, they're gonna win eight games. There's their 934 00:43:54,920 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 2: home games Utah State, Western, Michigan, Michigan State, due Minnesota. 935 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 2: Northwestern is in Chicago. Who cares where that's played, Rutgers 936 00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 2: in Illinois. That's that could be eight wins. And then 937 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 2: I was thinking about the under two just from a 938 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 2: numbers perspective, but that point in addition, now they do 939 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 2: go to Nebraska late in the finale, which is a 940 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 2: bad thing for them because Nebraska isn't rebuild, and then 941 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 2: it's the final game of the year. What really took 942 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 2: me off the Iowa under because I was looking that 943 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,399 Speaker 2: way is in week two and a little revenge spot 944 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 2: they play at Iowa State and Iowa State. Who I 945 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 2: don't know. We're gonna talk, we're gonna be Big twelve next. 946 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,399 Speaker 2: The rumors are one hundreds is off the team. Yep, 947 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 2: we will see who else. It doesn't sound good from 948 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 2: just we'll get to that in the Big twelve episode. 949 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,240 Speaker 2: So that at Iowa staate game and I was historically 950 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 2: owned that where they get that win and then they 951 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 2: just you know, they're with that home schedule because they're 952 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 2: probably they're gona lose that Penn State. We're gonna they're 953 00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 2: gonna lose. We'll give them a loss at Wisconsin, but 954 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 2: the schedule is pretty manageable outside of that. So yeah, 955 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 2: that Iowa State factor, and then what happened with Northwestern. 956 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 2: I Wall really benefited from those two teams and the turmoil, 957 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 2: and you know that they're gonna just steal a game 958 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 2: or two. I'm not betting the over, was looking at 959 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 2: the under, but after deep diving, I'm staying away. 960 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, then I'll pivot to Nebraska. 961 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 3: Are you ready for the first Collegeable Playoff ranking to 962 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 3: come out on Halloween and iowall be like seventh or 963 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,799 Speaker 3: eighth and everybody talk about how they're undefeated. Are you 964 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 3: ready for that to hear about how they're a national 965 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 3: title contender? 966 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 2: No, that better happens. That means they don't have to 967 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,719 Speaker 2: win at Penn State, Right, that better not happened. But 968 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 2: let's start listen to Nebraska. 969 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 3: Nebraska honestly, it's not for everyone. 970 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 2: Matt Rule the turnaround artist. Usually in previous spots that 971 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 2: he's been it's been a complete mess, right and not 972 00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 2: saying Nebraska isn't, but it's much more dire relative to 973 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 2: the rest of the division. Like, look, they're gonna it's 974 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 2: a complete change here. I mean, like you have a 975 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 2: brand new staff. You're gonna be it's gonna be like 976 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 2: an old school offense with like the full back or 977 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: established They want to be like old school Nebraska, which 978 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 2: I like. I think that this is something that Nebraska 979 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 2: can kind of hang their hat on as their identity. 980 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 2: I think the special teams can will be fixed this 981 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 2: year which has been a disaster, and Matt Rule is 982 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 2: good at the can really fix like a lot of 983 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,959 Speaker 2: the in game basic shit. So maybe they can start 984 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 2: to win the close games which they've been unable to do, 985 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,919 Speaker 2: just for a couple you know, just fixing a little 986 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,239 Speaker 2: things in this division, which is chaotic and really gettable. 987 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 2: They have a fairly easy non con but it's just 988 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 2: like coin It's like you could see it going. I mean, 989 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 2: like Northern Illinois at home, they're at Colorado, and like 990 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 2: Colorado hype spot Louisiana Tech at home could be a win. 991 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 2: They do draw Michigan Ryland, Michigan State from the east, 992 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 2: they have to go to Minnesota and Wisconsin while they 993 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 2: host Iowa, but they're on the road. They also go 994 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,879 Speaker 2: to Illinois. They're on the road for three of the 995 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 2: top four in the West. What do you see with 996 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,760 Speaker 2: rule in this Nebraska team over six and a half? 997 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 2: It is juice to the under seems a little aggressive 998 00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 2: for this new regime. But maybe Jeff Simms, the mobile 999 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 2: quarterback from Georgia Tech, who looks like he will be 1000 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,800 Speaker 2: under center, can have some juice here for ruling company. 1001 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 2: What do you see with corn? 1002 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,960 Speaker 3: I think it's extremely aggressive. I mean, not only did 1003 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 3: you get Jeff Sims from the portal, you went and 1004 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 3: got Billy Kemp at wide receiver from Virginia. So that 1005 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 3: is your one two punch that you're gonna have on 1006 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 3: the offense where the portal is trying to rebuild that 1007 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,840 Speaker 3: side of the ball from Marcus Sadderfield, who likes to 1008 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 3: run a lot of RPO, a lot eleven ten inside zone, 1009 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 3: the Jeff Simms is going to be able to eat 1010 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 3: up there. You know, Marcus Saderfield previously was on staff. 1011 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: At Temple and Baylor. 1012 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,560 Speaker 3: So he's going to fit what Matt Rule wants to do. 1013 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 3: On the defensive side of the ball, you're going to 1014 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 3: get Tony White. He had a thirty one perus. 1015 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a thirty one percent blitz right at Syracuse. 1016 00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 3: He can provide a pretty complicated coverage scheme and three 1017 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 3: three five front to show some problems there. 1018 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: There are issues on both sides. 1019 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,839 Speaker 3: Last year, you know Nebraska's one hundred and twenty eighth 1020 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,319 Speaker 3: then pass blocking that plays into Jeff Simms mobility. On 1021 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 3: the defensive side, they were one hundred and sixteenth and havoc. 1022 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,320 Speaker 3: They just could not play behind the line of scrimmage 1023 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 3: or pick off a ball. So I project this at six, 1024 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 3: and so the number in the market is six with 1025 00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,440 Speaker 3: plus money to the under. I'm going off script, like usually, 1026 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 3: I'm so mathematical based in taking things. I will pass 1027 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 3: if the number is about the same. I'm taking the 1028 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 3: under here. First off, I don't see this schedule getting 1029 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 3: the seven wins. Second off, Matt Rule is three to 1030 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 3: twenty one in his first seasons at Temple and Baylor. 1031 00:48:56,280 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 3: Why he is more about his program, his system, his structure, 1032 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 3: doesn't care about results in the first year, he never 1033 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 3: has doesn't care about results in the third year. He 1034 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 3: sells his ad on what his vision is, the way 1035 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,160 Speaker 3: that he wants to go about it and establishing a culture. 1036 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 3: And he's not going to come in and say, well, 1037 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 3: this is the pieces I have on my roster, and 1038 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,879 Speaker 3: this is the offensive defense that I'm going to run. 1039 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 3: Matt Rules one the ones that doesn't do that. If 1040 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,839 Speaker 3: they get to seven wins, I'd be amazed. So I'm 1041 00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 3: taking the under just based alone. I can't see them 1042 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 3: winning seven at all. So at worst, I push if 1043 00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 3: they make a bull I mean, Matt Rules should be 1044 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 3: for Coach of the Year if this team makes a Bowl. 1045 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:36,720 Speaker 3: But the fact that they are implementing all these schemes 1046 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,200 Speaker 3: and they are not tailoring it to the players on staff, 1047 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,439 Speaker 3: I'm going under here. 1048 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, the what it's worth. I don't hate the under. 1049 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 2: You can also get under six and a half two 1050 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 2: just pretty heavy AGM. People always ask about, do I 1051 00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 2: prefer like an under six or you know, under six 1052 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 2: plus money or under six and a half minus. Yeah, 1053 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 2: generally speaking, you're gonna be like sixty seventy cents for 1054 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 2: half win, but not all teams are created equal. It 1055 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 2: depends on the distribution of wins, and like is it 1056 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,360 Speaker 2: you know, if if I project a team at say 1057 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 2: five point eight wins, but there's a lot of like 1058 00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 2: one hundred percent win one hundred percent games like close 1059 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 2: to one hundred percent and then close to zero percent, 1060 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,280 Speaker 2: and then there's like two or three coin flips compared 1061 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 2: to like if there's a ton of coin flips, then 1062 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,280 Speaker 2: in the former I'm gonna I'm gonna be more willing 1063 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,759 Speaker 2: to pay for that half win then, So it really 1064 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 2: depends on the distribution in this case. 1065 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 3: And if you spot there's no hedge spot for three 1066 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 3: weeks against Maryland, Wisconsin, Iowa. 1067 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. The one thing I will say with Nebraska, if 1068 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,360 Speaker 2: I don't mind the under at all, to kind of 1069 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:52,720 Speaker 2: the case for them to appease my friends in Lincoln 1070 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 2: and surrounding areas that Okay, you have White comes in, 1071 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 2: gonna implement a three three five. I like their their 1072 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 2: corners or the strength the defense if they you know, 1073 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 2: if he can scheme pressure she has done in the past, 1074 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,239 Speaker 2: and the young defensive line comes together, transfer pieces fit in. 1075 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 2: You have the corners, the d has some promise, you know. 1076 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 2: And then the offense with sims and the offensive line 1077 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 2: which has been so disappointed, but maybe they could stay healthy. 1078 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 2: You had a center from the transfer portal, maybe hits. 1079 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 2: And then with rule you get you know fixed. I 1080 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 2: think the special teams are a lot better now, which 1081 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 2: has been a problem for them. You get better just 1082 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 2: discipline in game decisions, the little things, and you win 1083 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,400 Speaker 2: the close games that you've been losing. You fix the 1084 00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 2: turnover problem as well. In a division with all of 1085 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 2: this change and new quarterbacks and new schemes where it's 1086 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 2: just chaos. If you are a Nebraska believer, instead of 1087 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 2: the win total over, bet on the chaos. Bet on 1088 00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,120 Speaker 2: those things and then take a shot at like what 1089 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 2: eighteen to one six to win the division that on 1090 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 2: the upside, it's not only just the the upside of Nebraska, 1091 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 2: it's really just the chaos of the division. Like Wisconsin. 1092 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,879 Speaker 2: This complete identity change, right like I obviously could be 1093 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,360 Speaker 2: a mess as always. Who knows, they could lose anybody 1094 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 2: in any week. It's it's a messy division. So that's 1095 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 2: why I would attack Nebraska. 1096 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,080 Speaker 1: Time to take a bigger pight out of this court. 1097 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 2: Stock anything on Purdue Hudson Card coming in. New head 1098 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 2: coach Ryan Walters loved him as the defensive coordinator for Illinois. 1099 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 3: I mean I do projected a six, although I usually 1100 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,160 Speaker 3: have problems with defensive coordinators taking over his head coaches, 1101 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 3: especially in year one. But Graham Harold does come in. 1102 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 3: He's going to bring the air raid. He's going to 1103 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 3: bring some little bit outside zone when they do decided 1104 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 3: to run. He had thirty two percent RPO West Virginia 1105 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 3: last year, but I think that was more of West 1106 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,959 Speaker 3: Virginia's identity, the fact that they like to run the ball. 1107 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,839 Speaker 3: We'll get to that in the Big twelve section. The 1108 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 3: defense for Walters returns fifty percent of their tackles and pressures. 1109 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 1: But this schedule includes Ohio State, Michigan. You know, so, Hudson. 1110 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,080 Speaker 3: Card, he's going to be asked to run this power 1111 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,319 Speaker 3: raid that Graham Harrald wants to go. So to me, 1112 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 3: it's more of an unknown if Hudson Card has the 1113 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:13,240 Speaker 3: ability to do this, because he didn't have the ability 1114 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 3: to take over the quarterback position with some really shoddy 1115 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:16,760 Speaker 3: play at Texas. 1116 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,800 Speaker 1: Uh, there's a bottom five. 1117 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 3: Unit here, like in all of the Big Ten for 1118 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 3: at every position, so it's not a team I want 1119 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 3: to get into. My number says at six, I should 1120 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,879 Speaker 3: probably play the over five and a half. But they 1121 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 3: are going to be a pass for me, you know, 1122 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,279 Speaker 3: along with Minnesota, they're also a pass. I project them 1123 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 3: six point nine when total at seven. I'm not going 1124 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 3: to get into you know, we know what they want 1125 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,480 Speaker 3: to do, but there are going to be you know, 1126 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,840 Speaker 3: new wide receiver weapons for their Greek quarterback, and you know, 1127 00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 3: I think that's going to have time to you know, 1128 00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,959 Speaker 3: to work itself. But they also play Michigan Ohio State, 1129 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 3: so schedule is not real forgiving there either. 1130 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: So no play on Michigan. I'm sorry at Minnesota either. 1131 00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. What I'll say with Purdue is yeah, I mean 1132 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,200 Speaker 2: you have new defensive coordator. It's gonna be a lot 1133 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,479 Speaker 2: of Walters stuff. You're transitioning to like a three four 1134 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 2: with like basically five down the lineman. You're gonna have 1135 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 2: your edges on the line of scrimmage. They have a 1136 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 2: brand new defensive line. They need transfers to hit here. 1137 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 2: I like their linebackers, their safeties, but they need to 1138 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 2: replace two corners, so they need transfers to hit there. 1139 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,439 Speaker 2: As well. They also lost a really good kicker. There's 1140 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 2: a lot of change here. H do schemes on offense 1141 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 2: and defense and basically you know, so it's good that 1142 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 2: that's happening in the division with a lot of change, 1143 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,879 Speaker 2: but when you have that much change, you really want 1144 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,719 Speaker 2: to have kind of some cupcakes early on, and that's 1145 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,520 Speaker 2: not the case. So with Purdue, THATTMGM over five minus 1146 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,920 Speaker 2: one twenty you can find but I think you can 1147 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 2: probably find a way to play them in the first 1148 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 2: couple of weeks if you have an opinion, because I 1149 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 2: assume and you're right, they go to Iowa. They have 1150 00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 2: Wisconsin in the fourth week, which isn't great, or maybe 1151 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 2: you get them with a head turmoil, who knows. But 1152 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,760 Speaker 2: then they also get Ohio State and they're at Michigan 1153 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,880 Speaker 2: and then they're at Nebraska in between those two games, 1154 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 2: but you know, they're non con Fresno State at home 1155 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 2: depends on how everything's going at VA Tech right and 1156 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 2: then home against Syracuse like. 1157 00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,360 Speaker 3: That, it's not a murderer's row of offense is considering 1158 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,320 Speaker 3: what President's going through with personnel changes. 1159 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I agree with you on Purdue. It's 1160 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna look to play them on a week to 1161 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:32,239 Speaker 2: week basis, and in regards to Minnesota, yeah, was potentially 1162 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 2: going to look at an under but after adjusting some 1163 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 2: other teams, I asked, But yeah, their their schedule is brutal. 1164 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,919 Speaker 2: To lose a lot on defense, especially on the back 1165 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 2: end at corner, so that really could dip. You'd hope 1166 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 2: that the passing game does get better, even though they 1167 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 2: lost Morgan. All right, so that'll anything Northwestern, by the way, 1168 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:57,720 Speaker 2: Northwestern is so we'll close with them for mister Darren Ravel. 1169 00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,919 Speaker 2: So there are wind titles down to three. I think 1170 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,839 Speaker 2: it was off the board, and so I mean three 1171 00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,800 Speaker 2: flat they get. It's for me. I mean, there was 1172 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 2: a ton of signs that say positive regression. It's like 1173 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 2: a terrible year for Fitzgerald and he always just seems 1174 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 2: to bounce back somehow. But you know, and they were 1175 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 2: like one in five in one possession games last year. 1176 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,759 Speaker 2: They were one hundred and thirtieth in turnover margin. But then, 1177 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 2: like all this happens in the offseason, there's a quarterback competition, 1178 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,839 Speaker 2: probably Ben Bryant. They don't return a ton If one 1179 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 2: returning offensive line starter is coming back from knee surgery, 1180 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 2: lost their top three pass catchers. New defensive coordinator takes 1181 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 2: over d that was awful. Questions at defensive tackle and cornerback. 1182 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 2: Their special teams are dicey. They draw Penn State, Rutgers, 1183 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,400 Speaker 2: Maryland out of the East. They also play three straight 1184 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,400 Speaker 2: Big Ten opponents that are coming off of a bye, 1185 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 2: which isn't great. You say to yourself, how does this 1186 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 2: with us? You get the four wins? I mean, like 1187 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,839 Speaker 2: at Rutgers Week one, I guess it's winnable. I don't 1188 00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 2: think they're winning that game. Tap at home, Minnesota at home, 1189 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 2: Penn's State at home, Howard at home, By at Nebraska, 1190 00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 2: and Maryland at home, Iowa Chicago. Maybe they beat Iowa 1191 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 2: like nine to seven per do at home. Like, I 1192 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 2: don't know, how does this team get the four wins? 1193 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 3: So I think i've kind of I have purposely not 1194 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 3: said anything about Northwestern with all this going on, because 1195 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 3: the word in the locker room was there was going 1196 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 3: to be a mass exodus to the portal if David 1197 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 3: Brown was not named the interim head coach. He was 1198 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 3: brought over from North Dakota State. He was there for 1199 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 3: three years as a defensive coordinator, we know that that 1200 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 3: is the top team in FCS. He was named the 1201 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 3: top coordinator in all of FCS in twenty twenty one. 1202 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 3: This was an amazing hire for Northwestern to go out 1203 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:50,640 Speaker 3: and get David Brown to pick up a defense that 1204 00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 3: was near dead last and success right one hundredth and 1205 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 3: defensive finishing drives and created no havoc whatsoever. So if 1206 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 3: the sentiment out of the locker room was we're all 1207 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,560 Speaker 3: hitting the portal if you don't make our DC, our 1208 00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 3: new DC who's only been there in a couple of months, 1209 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,560 Speaker 3: this poor guy accept the job of dealing with this shit, has. 1210 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: To go up to media days and his AD's not 1211 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: even there anyways. He's not being paid enough. 1212 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,400 Speaker 3: I don't know what David Bron's salary is, but you're 1213 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 3: not being paid enough, my friend. So if the players 1214 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,320 Speaker 3: in the locker room are committed to their interim head 1215 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 3: coach DC and all said we're going to hit the 1216 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 3: portal if he's not named the head coach, that means 1217 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:33,240 Speaker 3: they're staying, and that means they're playing with an agenda. 1218 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 3: It's not one of these you know, Michigan State things 1219 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,240 Speaker 3: where they just fall off the map. These guys seem 1220 00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 3: fired up to play for David bron So I think 1221 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 3: what I want to do is let this come. 1222 00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 1: Down to three. 1223 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,400 Speaker 3: In Northwest, I think I am If there's a two 1224 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 3: and a half, I'm going to play it. If it's 1225 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,080 Speaker 3: three flat, I'll think about it. But we see this 1226 00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:57,120 Speaker 3: all the time. We see this all the time. Head 1227 00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 3: coach gets fired, players are pissed off, they want one 1228 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 3: certain guy to be the interim. That guy gets named 1229 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 3: the interim, and then they play their asses off the 1230 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 3: entire season. I don't think Northwestern's world beaters at all. 1231 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,880 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna struggle to even win a games. 1232 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: You know it, so Howard and utep. 1233 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's not gonna be because 1234 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 3: of a lack of motivation or ambition or whatever the 1235 00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 3: is this roster wants because they got the guy that 1236 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 3: they wanted to be interim head coach. 1237 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're gonna be a valuable dog at times. 1238 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 2: I like Rutgers will transition into our three. Now. I 1239 00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 2: like the Rutgers over I'm scared of that Week one 1240 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,600 Speaker 2: game at home. I think Rutgers are gonna win. I'm 1241 00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,160 Speaker 2: pretty confident, But it's like everyone writes off Northwestern all 1242 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 2: the shit, and then they go on the road and 1243 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 2: it's just like fuck you to everybody. I'm petrified of that. 1244 00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 2: And uh they have Yeah, then UTEP at home so 1245 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,400 Speaker 2: they could jump out the two another and you're powered 1246 00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 2: at home. Uh so, yeah, it's definitely due. I'm not 1247 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,520 Speaker 2: playing the under, but I won't be joining you on three. 1248 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 2: Maybe if it goes to two and a half, if 1249 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 2: there's the hate continues, yeah, I could get there, but 1250 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 2: not a three. All right, let's good stuff on the 1251 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 2: Big Ten, the always ultra competitive East, the truly wild 1252 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 2: wild West in the last year of divisions in the 1253 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Big Ten before they expand to sixteen teams next season. 1254 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, let's go three and out. 1255 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Well, let's make it a quick three and out. 1256 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 2: All right, let's start with first down and let's talk 1257 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 2: week one or week zero, Week zero, week one. We'll 1258 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:46,760 Speaker 2: do this for every conference betting pre before the Power 1259 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,880 Speaker 2: five conferences that Colin and I cover a take Big 1260 01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 2: Ten related that has caught your eye. 1261 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 3: I've been waiting for this podcast before I shove it 1262 01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,280 Speaker 3: in the app, I am going to bet it and 1263 01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,320 Speaker 3: put in the app right after we get done recording. 1264 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Wisconsin minus twenty three and a half 1265 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,840 Speaker 3: against a Buffalo team that has done nothing to address 1266 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 3: anything in the back seven when it comes to giving 1267 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 3: up explosive plays. Buffalo was dead last and standardowns explosives. 1268 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 3: They weren't very good against pass EPA. This is a 1269 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 3: Mac defense with a bunch of small new faces in 1270 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,760 Speaker 3: the secondary, and Wisconsin is coming out for a show 1271 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 3: with this new offense. Tanner Mordecai, wide receivers, Braylan Allen 1272 01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 3: getting holes. Bear that you can drive trucks through. Buffalo 1273 01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 3: is not going to be a real test for Wisconsin. 1274 01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 3: I think Luke Fickle will want to make a name 1275 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,440 Speaker 3: for himself. I power rate this game twenty seven and 1276 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,120 Speaker 3: a half. I expected to close at twenty eight. So 1277 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 3: right now, a month before kick, I'm going to take 1278 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 3: Wisconsin minus twenty three and a half against a very 1279 01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 3: very poor secondary back seven of Buffalo and an offense 1280 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 3: that is not going to be able to get anywhere 1281 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,800 Speaker 3: against a legit Wisconsin defense. 1282 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 2: Completely a great Buffalo defense should get absolutely shredded here. 1283 01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 2: And it's the showcase game. You know, can't Randle excited? 1284 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 2: Let's get the fans excited and run this up, which 1285 01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,160 Speaker 2: they should be able to do. Don't mind first half 1286 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,880 Speaker 2: throwing that in there as well. Yeah, I'm trying. I'm 1287 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 2: I had that game circled. I'm trying. We were on 1288 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 2: the same pants this entire podcast. I'm scrambling right now. 1289 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 1: Share notes, everybody. I promise we did not share notes. 1290 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking to see if there's anything else that 1291 01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 2: I had circled. I watched. I was out in Vegas 1292 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 2: this past weekend. I watched all the Michigan thirty fives 1293 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,280 Speaker 2: get picked off in East Carolina. Took money that's down 1294 01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 2: to thirty four off the key number thirty five. I 1295 01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 2: was laying. I was going for twenty one to twenty three. 1296 01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 2: The total's gone from forty eight to forty three. You 1297 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:45,200 Speaker 2: don't see that every day. 1298 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 3: I did have some interest in central Michigan, but I 1299 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 3: didn't I didn't believe enough that they could take avantge 1300 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 3: of Michigan. Saint Stephen's plus Meltucker really kills directional schools. 1301 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 1: So I laid off of that. That was on the 1302 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 1: radar though. 1303 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing else for Mandy, So well, well, I agree, 1304 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 2: let's i'll coase on Wisconsin. We'll obviously break down other 1305 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,680 Speaker 2: games on our week's Heero Week one betting previews, but 1306 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:09,600 Speaker 2: let's move on to second down, and that is our 1307 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 2: favorite under. I think you just made a natural transition 1308 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:18,120 Speaker 2: talking about Michigan State. I think we are both going 1309 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 2: to agree here, So why don't you make a quick case. 1310 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,120 Speaker 1: I'll add anything on or my under. 1311 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 3: I'm going to take Nebraska under six plus one thirty. 1312 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 3: I do project this at six. No path on the 1313 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 3: schedule for them to get to seven wins. This culture 1314 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 3: is more about establishing a foundation, a lifestyle, team chemistry. 1315 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 1: That's what Matt Rule is all about. 1316 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 3: That's how he has built Temple and Baylor in years past. 1317 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 3: His record at Temple and Baylor first year three and 1318 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:51,880 Speaker 3: twenty one does not care about wins, does not care 1319 01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 3: about anything except establishing a culture. I hope Nebraska fans 1320 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,280 Speaker 3: are able to be patient, allow Matt Rule to get 1321 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 3: this year, get his systems in place, get this new 1322 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 3: defensive offensive scheme going together, and allow him one more 1323 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 3: trip through the portal before they get all upset. But 1324 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 3: to say this again, I do project them at six. 1325 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,439 Speaker 3: It's mathematically not a bet. It is just a bet 1326 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 3: on the fact that Matt Rule has sold his ad 1327 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 3: on a vision that we are establishing in a culture, 1328 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 3: and not the fact that I'm going to bend what 1329 01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,680 Speaker 3: I want to do just for wins. 1330 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 1: In the first season. So I'm going under six on Nebraska. 1331 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 2: Don't hate that at all. I'm going to go with 1332 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:33,040 Speaker 2: an under that you also agree with, and that's Michigan State. 1333 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,800 Speaker 2: I like the under five and a half juice or 1334 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 2: if you want to go under five plus money, either 1335 01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:42,680 Speaker 2: or works. This is a brutal, brutal schedule. I mean 1336 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:47,600 Speaker 2: they're going to Iowa two Rutgers. They have Michigan at 1337 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 2: Ohio State, Penn State, only three true Big Ten home games. 1338 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,760 Speaker 2: They even have to go to Indiana and to Rutgers, 1339 01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,680 Speaker 2: like I mentioned, the two worst teams in their division, 1340 01:04:57,840 --> 01:04:59,800 Speaker 2: and they're going to a rebuilding Indiana team at the 1341 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,560 Speaker 2: end of the year. There's some tough spots in the schedule. 1342 01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 2: They lost their quarterback after spring, their top two receivers, 1343 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 2: one of the NFL the other after spring to the Portal. 1344 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,120 Speaker 2: The defense has been a mess, and I lose their 1345 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,800 Speaker 2: two best d bat. I don't see it really improving 1346 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 2: that much. Yes, the offensive line is more experienced, but 1347 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 2: it's been a mess. I just don't like where this 1348 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 2: program is headed. I do not see them getting the 1349 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 2: boil eligibility going with Sparty under. I have a really 1350 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 2: loyal following listener, Testa who's not gonna be pleased with that. 1351 01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 2: Sorry to all my friends at East Lanting. I took 1352 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,560 Speaker 2: an URV out there one time to watch Kirk Cousins 1353 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 2: and beat Russell Wilson on a Hail Mary in the 1354 01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:48,480 Speaker 2: last play of the game. Electric Game one of my 1355 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,880 Speaker 2: fondest college football memories as far as going to games. 1356 01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,560 Speaker 2: But I'm going with Michigan State under Collins, going Nebraska 1357 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,480 Speaker 2: under and for third down, it's either an over or 1358 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 2: a future. Do what we got well. 1359 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 3: I want to give everybody the Maryland over seven and 1360 01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,479 Speaker 3: they have enough pieces at quarterback and at the wide 1361 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 3: receiver position to give a lot of defenses with bad 1362 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,280 Speaker 3: secondaries trouble. And even though they have a tough schedule 1363 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,720 Speaker 3: in the division that they're in, it's a win total 1364 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 3: that I project over the seventh, so I like the 1365 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,640 Speaker 3: plus money that goes along with this. They're going to 1366 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,920 Speaker 3: be good enough to beat and win eight games on 1367 01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,280 Speaker 3: this schedule. It is a pretty soft outside of the 1368 01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 3: big boys over in their division. But we're talking futures 1369 01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 3: and we're talking the Big Ten. It's not Michigan, it's 1370 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,959 Speaker 3: not Ohio State, it's Penn State. 1371 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,400 Speaker 1: It is Penn State's. 1372 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,440 Speaker 3: Time to finally answer the question if they're back similar 1373 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:44,640 Speaker 3: to Texas, Right, Well, Penn State is back this year. 1374 01:06:44,840 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 3: They're going to bring back the best defense in college football, 1375 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 3: the best secondary, the best linebackers, the best defensive line. 1376 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 3: Oh by the way, they have two explosive playmakers at 1377 01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,280 Speaker 3: the running back position. Their offensive line is going to 1378 01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 3: be fine. I trusted Mike Yersich as the offensive coordinator 1379 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 3: to manage Drew Aller, who is coming off a season 1380 01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 3: limited in dropbacks and passing attempts. But he didn't have 1381 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 3: any interceptions and no turnover worthy plays, and that's pretty 1382 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 3: admirable as a freshman, even if it is mop up time. 1383 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 3: I believe in Mike Irisic and Manny Diaz is a 1384 01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:16,200 Speaker 3: great coordinator, not so great of a head coach. We 1385 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,200 Speaker 3: don't have to worry about that here. As a defensive coordinator. 1386 01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 3: This is a team I believe is going to get 1387 01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 3: one of two against Michigan. Ohio State eleven and one 1388 01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:26,360 Speaker 3: I think is their floor. As long as James Franklin 1389 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 3: and clock management and bad decisions of fourth down don't 1390 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 3: take this out of our hands. Penn State plus four 1391 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 3: to forty is out there to make the playoff. The 1392 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 3: lowest I would buy it is four to one, and 1393 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:37,480 Speaker 3: I am shopping all the. 1394 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 1: Way up until the season starts to get a better number. 1395 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully this is the Maryland finally bites Penn State. 1396 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 2: But I agree, I'm going to go take it one 1397 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:51,960 Speaker 2: step further. Yes, we are back. I'm going for the 1398 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 2: whole shebang. Twenty five to one I think is bet 1399 01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:59,280 Speaker 2: MGM shop around as always, but look, the defense is there. 1400 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 2: It's the top five d defense. To me, I can 1401 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,440 Speaker 2: confidently say that it's all going to come down to 1402 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,080 Speaker 2: Drew Holler and then I want someone to step up 1403 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:09,560 Speaker 2: as the guy at receiver. I let the upside there. 1404 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 2: That's what I'm buying is they do get to the 1405 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 2: College Football Playoff in the last year of this college 1406 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,040 Speaker 2: wall Playoff for the first time. That means Alur reached 1407 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:22,439 Speaker 2: or exceeded his expectations and the ceiling is very high, 1408 01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,519 Speaker 2: and that means they can play with anybody in the country, 1409 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 2: and I much prefer buying that upside then a Big 1410 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,520 Speaker 2: Ten future, because, as we outlined earlier in the episode, 1411 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 2: there is a chance where in a tiebreaker, because they 1412 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 2: have Northwestern and Michigan and Ohio State, doesn't that they 1413 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 2: get left out and they lose that tie breaker. But 1414 01:08:42,720 --> 01:08:44,600 Speaker 2: even if that happens, there's still a path which we 1415 01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 2: saw last year, where they could still make it to 1416 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 2: the College Football Playoff. I'm buying the upside on Penn State, 1417 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,320 Speaker 2: which I think that there's just way too much value 1418 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:57,360 Speaker 2: there when compared to Ohio State and Michigan similar questions 1419 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,280 Speaker 2: with each of those offenses. We are give me the 1420 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:06,040 Speaker 2: nitny Lyons to win the national championship. Also like your 1421 01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:08,640 Speaker 2: play and getting to the College Bubble Playoff. All right, 1422 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 2: that'll do it for us. Wrapping up the Big Ten 1423 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 2: and the always interesting East Division and the wild Wild West. 1424 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,479 Speaker 2: Thanks as always to column Thanks to our audio and 1425 01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,640 Speaker 2: video teams on the back end. Thanks to all of 1426 01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 2: you of course for tuning in. It's so good to 1427 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 2: be back. We're gonna keep churning these out. We're doing 1428 01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 2: about the record the Big Twelve, which will be fun 1429 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,760 Speaker 2: next you know. Then we're gonna get it. Continue with 1430 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:35,200 Speaker 2: the group of five sec next week, so they're gonna 1431 01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 2: keep coming. Before you know it, week's zero. Week one 1432 01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 2: will be here. 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