WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: “Find Him Guilty”

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is Thursday, June twenty sixth, and the

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<v Speaker 1>prosecution just took four hours and fifty minutes to give

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<v Speaker 1>its closing argument in the Diddy trial. And welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>this second Ditty Update edition of Amy and TJ. Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you first about that, just the timing

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<v Speaker 1>on They said they were going to need maybe four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost five. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And that is a big difference when you're a

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<v Speaker 2>juror sitting there listening to one prosecutor, Christy Slavic, go

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<v Speaker 2>through painstakingly detailed evidence and can you imagine what that

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<v Speaker 2>would be like. They did get a lunch break, so

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm sure was helpful, but then you get a

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<v Speaker 2>little sleepy with all the food you just ate.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh here, I'm just saying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go four hours seemed long to me already. And then

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<v Speaker 2>to say so she announced, and it was written all

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<v Speaker 2>the court reporters, you know, put out in a start

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<v Speaker 2>saying the prosecution says it needs another hour. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>imagine what the jurors felt when they heard that?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, do I have it right? It was so they

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<v Speaker 1>started at ten this morning, so she got two hours

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<v Speaker 1>lunch break, two hours they took a little break, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's when she came back and.

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<v Speaker 2>Said, I need another hour.

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<v Speaker 1>That's tough. That was a tough one to see. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have the advantage here. I am not familiar

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<v Speaker 1>with this prosecutor. I think most people in the country

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<v Speaker 1>are not so Christy Slavic. I mean, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>How does she deliver? Does she speak like a quiet librarian?

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<v Speaker 1>Is she very loud? Is she very entertaining a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of historyonics? And how she presents That's.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting because you're right, we don't get to watch it.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't get to hear it. We can only read

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<v Speaker 2>her written words, so we don't know if she's animated

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<v Speaker 2>and engaged and interesting and a good storyteller. I think

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<v Speaker 2>most lawyers at that level, if you have that position,

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<v Speaker 2>have to have some performance capabilities to them. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>people say you should have been a court room lawyer,

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<v Speaker 2>like you could have been a court room lawyer. TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>What now, Oh, I've always thought.

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<v Speaker 1>That, Yeah you could.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think you would have been a good prosecutor

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<v Speaker 2>really on that side of things, Yes, I do know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you would have been an excellent prosecutor going.

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<v Speaker 1>After the bad guys. Doesn't feel like something I would do.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh see, I thought you said that feels good. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>after the bad guys, but you would be great. No,

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<v Speaker 2>but there I think there is an always in a

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<v Speaker 2>good prosecutor, in a good attorney, there is some theatrics.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have no idea how this went about. And

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<v Speaker 1>again it can if you listened to one voice for

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<v Speaker 1>five hours a lot, and also going through things and

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily interesting. Well, it's all the stuff supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting, but telling a weaving a story, and hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this goes with this, and make sure you put this

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<v Speaker 1>together here and then you must find I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's uh. I am curious to know how the I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get a good reading from any of the reporters.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you did of how the jury seem to be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not. And I maybe they're not allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about the jurors reaction and their faces while listening

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<v Speaker 2>to an attorney, because then we would get a read

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<v Speaker 2>on what they were thinking or feeling about the prosecution

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<v Speaker 2>versus the defense. I don't know, because I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>one report.

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<v Speaker 1>See I think back now, and the times they've refer

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<v Speaker 1>to the jurors have been about someone had to turn

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<v Speaker 1>their eyes away from a screen, or they didn't look

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<v Speaker 1>at a video, or they turned they have meant right,

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<v Speaker 1>they have.

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<v Speaker 2>But I did not see any reporting about how the

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<v Speaker 2>jury was handling or reacting to this long delivery of

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<v Speaker 2>a yes, a closing argument by the prosecution. Now, Christie

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<v Speaker 2>Slovic took the jury through each charge that Ditty is facing.

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<v Speaker 2>One count of racketeering conspiracy, two counts of sex trafficking

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<v Speaker 2>demanding that both Cassie and Jane had to have sex,

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<v Speaker 2>and then two counts of transportation to engage in prosecution.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know the Ditty is facing with all of

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<v Speaker 2>these charges life in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>So Christie Slavic, the prosecutor, spent most of the first

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<v Speaker 1>part of the day. We did that in part one,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of went over that the racketeering conspiracy, going through

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<v Speaker 1>what it takes to convict him on that. But the

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<v Speaker 1>sex trafficking roll she spent the last part of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>So this had a lot to do with Cazie, had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to do with Jane. So you have to

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<v Speaker 1>prove this point sex trafficking. You point this out. I

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<v Speaker 1>missed it in the earlier note, but made the point

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<v Speaker 1>to the jury like confess to the jury. Yes, not

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<v Speaker 1>every freak off was sex trafficking. That was important to note.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that. So yeah, she said, some of

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<v Speaker 2>them they were happy to be there, and there was uh,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no coersion, and so she said, but there

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<v Speaker 2>were specific instances. One of them, of course, was where

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<v Speaker 2>we saw that tape in the hotel. Correct. Yes, so

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<v Speaker 2>that night specifically, she said, was absolutely sex trafficking.

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<v Speaker 1>The point there, and this is now, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>very simple way to put it. Sex trafficking is forcing

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<v Speaker 1>someone through it could be through violence, it could be

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<v Speaker 1>through any other coersion to participate in a sex act.

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<v Speaker 1>We I saw her being beaten and dragged to go back,

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<v Speaker 1>we're told now to a sex party. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>the textbook definition laid out for is for sex trafficks.

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<v Speaker 2>She also named the moment or the instance of Cassie's

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<v Speaker 2>birthday when she, in front of all of her friends,

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to go and stay at her birthday party. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>he forced her to go and leave her own birthday

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<v Speaker 2>party to go and then have a freak out. So

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<v Speaker 2>that was another time. And then there was a third

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<v Speaker 2>time where there was a male escort Daniel I think

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<v Speaker 2>was his name, and he said Daniel Phillips.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe why do we know mail As?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually just can't believe that just rolled right. We

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<v Speaker 2>know Daniel Phillips. Sorry, So he said that amazing. Did

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted to go again? She said no. He pulled

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<v Speaker 2>her into the other room, he heard slapping and screaming

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<v Speaker 2>and punching, and said go back and do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>And the only reason why it didn't happen again is

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<v Speaker 2>because after Daniel Phillip witnessed that, he well, he couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>get it up. But the prosecutor said, hey, just because

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<v Speaker 2>it was cut short, you still had a witness seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he force Cathy to do something against her will

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<v Speaker 2>with the threat and the actual experience of violence.

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<v Speaker 1>That we all saw, Yes, and they did. They played that.

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<v Speaker 1>You shouldn't be surprised, but yes, they played that video

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<v Speaker 1>that's surveillance video from the hotel for the jury again

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<v Speaker 1>today is a part of the closing argument. So that

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<v Speaker 1>is something again they're going to have in their minds,

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<v Speaker 1>seried in their mind I don't know how they get

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<v Speaker 1>it out of their minds at any point during this

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<v Speaker 1>during this trial. But that's like go into the jury

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<v Speaker 1>room with that, and again they've gotten five hours. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if there's a limit to how much they'll

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<v Speaker 1>have for a rebuttal in this case.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I know, I don't think there is

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<v Speaker 2>a limit. I think that the prosecution can know that

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<v Speaker 2>if they actually pushed too much, perhaps that might upset

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<v Speaker 2>the jury. So yeah, I'm sure they know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>But who knows exactly how long they'll meet. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think it might depend on what they feel they need

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<v Speaker 2>to rebut what they hear from the defense. The other

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<v Speaker 2>issue that Christye Slovok focused on what transportation to engage

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<v Speaker 2>in prostitution he's facing did. He is facing two counts

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<v Speaker 2>of those, but they have to prove that he knowingly

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<v Speaker 2>transported an individual in interstate or foreign commerce intending for

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<v Speaker 2>that person to engage in prosecution.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the actual legal yes, that's the actual legally yes

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<v Speaker 1>for it. But again, piecing all that together, that seems okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems simple to a late person, right, you are

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<v Speaker 1>not permitted to pay someone to cross state lines or

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<v Speaker 1>to travel for the purpose of having sex for money, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>and not allowed to do that. So it seems that

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<v Speaker 1>they do have a long list of receipts. Yes, thou

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<v Speaker 1>him doing just that. So how is that not a

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<v Speaker 1>no brainer?

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like it would be. And she also pointed

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<v Speaker 2>out Christy Slavic to the jurors that just because even

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<v Speaker 2>in some of these instances, if Cassie or if if

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<v Speaker 2>Jane were totally willing to participate, if the male escorts

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<v Speaker 2>were totally willing to participate, their willingness to perform the

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<v Speaker 2>sexual acts does not change the illegality of Ditty paying.

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<v Speaker 1>For the acts. And so that was kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a oh an aha moment that she pointed out

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<v Speaker 2>to the jury. So even in some of those freak

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<v Speaker 2>offs where everybody was there because they wanted to be there,

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<v Speaker 2>it still didn't make Ditty not culpable for the illegality

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<v Speaker 2>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So if that seems again, layperson, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow we're gonna hear from their defense attorney and they're like, duh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not prostitution at all.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I can't wait to hear that though, because I've

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<v Speaker 2>still yet to hear how that isn't prostitution.

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<v Speaker 1>But you remember, we had a point at the trial

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<v Speaker 1>where we were going through all this stuff and we

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<v Speaker 1>were like, wow, Wow, Wow, the prosecution, prosecution, prostitution is

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<v Speaker 1>nailing it. Then we got into some cross examinations like

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<v Speaker 1>wait a.

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<v Speaker 2>Minute, right, I mean what makes watching a trial so

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<v Speaker 2>fascinating because you find yourself I mean absolutely, For the

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<v Speaker 2>first few weeks of this trial, I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>did he is going to prison for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>his life? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>My god.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I couldn't believe

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<v Speaker 2>what I was reading. And then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>when the events really started going, I really think from

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<v Speaker 2>that Perry Mason moment on, I started to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm, I don't know this trial. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>and oh, look at that sweet text. So oh she

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<v Speaker 1>planned that freak call. Yeah, it's just it. It's the top,

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<v Speaker 1>the highest form, and this is reality drama. This is

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<v Speaker 1>real stuff. We are following a reality show. We can't

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<v Speaker 1>even see, right, That's how he could have.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a fireside chat back in the day. We have, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we have some courtroom sketches, but that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing that we heard the prosecutor bring up

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<v Speaker 2>with was this notion we heard this through the trial

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<v Speaker 2>that Diddy attempted to obstruct justice so once Cassie then

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<v Speaker 2>Toura Fine had her civil lawsuit out there, they claim

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<v Speaker 2>he panicked, he got his boy d it's a d Rock. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that, and I hesitated.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm his real name.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know Amy, and I think that's a hard

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<v Speaker 2>one to forget.

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<v Speaker 1>But now d Rock and KK, how are they not

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<v Speaker 1>all a part of the same trial. They make it

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<v Speaker 1>sound like they should be co defended.

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<v Speaker 2>I need to actually, yes, it's weird that they aren't

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<v Speaker 2>charged if they're a part of all of this. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>d Rock calls, according to the prosecution, calls Mia and

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<v Speaker 2>basically it's like, hey, you know, puff was always like

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<v Speaker 2>that with cass you know, like they just fought like

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<v Speaker 2>normal couples. And she immediately thought what is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>And the prosecution said, hey, just remember they were calling

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<v Speaker 2>people who they knew might be called in any form

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<v Speaker 2>or fashion to be a witness to testify, and they

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<v Speaker 2>were trying to placate them, they were trying to manipulate them,

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<v Speaker 2>they were trying to obstruct justice. So that was another

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<v Speaker 2>big point she wanted to make for the jurors.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they're they're making him sound in that instance,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's important talk about that because an innocent

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<v Speaker 1>person doesn't do.

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<v Speaker 2>That correct exactly. It's the cover up sometimes that get

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<v Speaker 2>you more than the crime itself. And so just to

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<v Speaker 2>show that they were trying to go ahead and clean

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<v Speaker 2>everything up and cover all of their bases, showed that

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<v Speaker 2>they knew they had done something wrong or he had

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<v Speaker 2>done something right.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been focused in today as well, And I was

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<v Speaker 1>you and I were going back and forth on this

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<v Speaker 1>about can you have a criminal this enterprise and have

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<v Speaker 1>this free co charge if the people who also are

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<v Speaker 1>around you aren't also willing participants, knowing participants in the crime. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he has somebody go get him baby oil. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that person is a part of a criminal enterprise.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't know what the baby oil is for, and

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know that or some of the drug running.

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<v Speaker 1>But they focused a lot today on KK and d Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>KK and d Rock these are folks of his inner

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<v Speaker 1>circle who are part of keeping people quiet, planning a

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<v Speaker 1>freak off. So they're built. They've made more of a

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<v Speaker 1>case today why d Rock and KK are certainly maybe

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<v Speaker 1>those are the only who we need now to be well, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>co conspirators.

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<v Speaker 2>So they were co conspirators. But then you remember earlier

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<v Speaker 2>in the day in the morning session, Christie Slavic did say,

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<v Speaker 2>even though the other folks you just described as foot soldiers,

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<v Speaker 2>even though they didn't know a crime was being committed,

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<v Speaker 2>when they were doing these tasks that they were supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to do, and for fear out of losing their jobs,

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<v Speaker 2>they did them anyway. They said that still was a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the enterprise that they were discussing. Some people knew,

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<v Speaker 2>but some people didn't, and that didn't mean that it

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<v Speaker 2>still wasn't all a part of this enterprise.

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<v Speaker 1>This is incredible that we've gotten now to this point

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<v Speaker 1>of the trial. It's been seven so they've had seven

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<v Speaker 1>weeks and now five hours. The defense took thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>to present its case, and now we'll see how long

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<v Speaker 1>they decided to take with And I don't know that

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<v Speaker 1>of his the lead attorney, his lead attorney is doing

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<v Speaker 1>the close.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe Mark, it's an Angelou. It's an Italian last

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<v Speaker 2>name that I can't say Mark, but.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't remember right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But they too said that they need about four hours,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course that obviously is not something that's black

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<v Speaker 2>and white we'll see how far they go and how

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<v Speaker 2>long they go. And I'm sure they might be recrafting

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<v Speaker 2>what they're going to say after they heard from the prosecution.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was a note I read court reporters describing

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<v Speaker 2>once everyone left the courtroom, did he stayed back with

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<v Speaker 2>his attorneys, and they described they were watching the defense

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<v Speaker 2>team after hearing the prosecution give their last final push

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<v Speaker 2>to the jurors. They said the mood was light, there

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<v Speaker 2>was even some laughter, and it seemed as though they

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<v Speaker 2>were in good spirits after they heard what the prosecution

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<v Speaker 2>had to give for their closing arguments. I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was really interesting because they weren't performing. The jury was gone,

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<v Speaker 2>the public was gone. Just one reporter said, they kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stood around and was just kind of watching to

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<v Speaker 2>see how the team was reacting and just interacting, and

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<v Speaker 2>so it didn't seem as though it was a performance.

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<v Speaker 2>They it seemed as though they were pleased with how

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<v Speaker 2>things went today.

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<v Speaker 1>What was it did you see as well? I was

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<v Speaker 1>surprised yesterday at the jury charge conference where the attorneys

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<v Speaker 1>and the judge were going through jury instructions, jury wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in the room, said he. At one point he was

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<v Speaker 1>so chill. He took his shoes off, Yes, I read

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<v Speaker 1>that under the table and Hisses was playing with his

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<v Speaker 1>feet and he was just so relaxed at the table.

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<v Speaker 1>What is happening right now?

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<v Speaker 2>So that was what happened yesterday. And then I saw

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<v Speaker 2>this morning, and I had talked about this in part one,

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<v Speaker 2>but this morning, when the jury first came in, they

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<v Speaker 2>said he looked very different than that guy who had

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<v Speaker 2>his shoes off, chilling in the court when he was

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<v Speaker 2>rubbing his palms. But perhaps it seems as if they

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<v Speaker 2>or as they watched the prosecution give their closing arguments,

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<v Speaker 2>his mood shifted back to maybe where it was yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>He seemed chill, relaxed, and light was the word they used.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to see if the defense pulls another I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know they've had time. They will probably make a

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<v Speaker 1>major presentation. I would be surprised that they get up

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<v Speaker 1>and say, you know what, we're good. We don't need

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<v Speaker 1>any time for this. Oh no, nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>They need to have this is there, This jury is there,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is them talking directly to the jurors. Do

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<v Speaker 2>not convict our client. He didn't do anything illegal, or

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't do anything what he's being charged with. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not saying he didn't do anything illegal. They're actually saying

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<v Speaker 2>they're copying to the fact that he was by bad

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<v Speaker 2>he was a bad guy, that he was using drugs,

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<v Speaker 2>that he was addicted to drugs, all of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're saying, yeah, he made some bad choices and

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<v Speaker 2>he did some illegal things, but he didn't do what

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<v Speaker 2>the prosecution says he did.

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<v Speaker 1>This case is fascinating. He has confessed to several crimes,

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<v Speaker 1>none of them he's been chuged with. That's wild. That

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<v Speaker 1>is wild in some variation. I guess they say it

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<v Speaker 1>falls under all day it's just oh yeah, yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>again what we just talked about the and a reminder

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<v Speaker 1>the the Prostitution Show, We're I keep getting this mixed

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<v Speaker 1>up roads in front of us transportation to engage in prostitution.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the one that only goes a maximum ten

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<v Speaker 1>years in prison. Correct, So two counts transportation to engage

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<v Speaker 1>in prostitution a maximum of ten is he gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>a max?

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows? And he'll get credit for time served with

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<v Speaker 2>whatever charges. If he's convicted of any of these charges,

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<v Speaker 2>he'll get yeah, probably around that A year sex trafficking.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that the one that one's the minimum to fifteen for.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's two counts the minimum of fifteen years, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the racketeering conspiracy that's the one could get up.

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<v Speaker 2>To life in prison. So it is interesting again to

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<v Speaker 2>note that the mood was light at the defense table

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<v Speaker 2>after the prosecution prosecution finished its closing argument.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, look, quote, this is why we usually don't do

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<v Speaker 1>too did the update today because at this point of

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<v Speaker 1>the day we have been up since two three in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. Sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, if you actually we probably will end up in

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<v Speaker 2>the same boat tomorrow on Friday and at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the week, getting up that early and then staying

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<v Speaker 2>up all day following this, it actually might be a

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<v Speaker 2>comedy podcast hearing us try to speak at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of that very long day of this very long week.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you've made it to the end, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for listening to us, and we will be back with

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<v Speaker 2>you tomorrow and we'll do our best not to mess

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<v Speaker 2>up how to pronounce things and stuff like that. Bye.