1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,279 Speaker 1: I listened to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Rod and Karen. 3 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: Are hot yo. 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 3: And she came with the same type game, the type 5 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 3: of girl giving out fake cell phone and name big fame. 6 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: She like cats with big things. George Up's Monday clip 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: from Flip the sixth Range. I've seen her on the 8 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 3: ass spot of them more than once. Ask so fact 9 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 3: that you could see it from the front. She spopt 10 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 3: me like Papa ross me. Shot me your. 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 2: Glance in that cat woman stands with them? Fat booty pants? 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: What's your name? Love? Where you came from? Neck and 13 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: wrist blazed? The very little make of the swims at 14 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: the reebox gym tone your friend up it sugar respics 15 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: the only. 16 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 3: Thing that you're made of. Hey, welcome to the Blackout 17 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Tips Podcast. Your host Rod Ed Karen and we're in 18 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 3: the house on a What's today Monday? Yes, sir so, 19 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 3: Monday Night edition of the Blackout Tips. Hold on, why 20 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,959 Speaker 3: is my volume on my mic? Low on this recording? 21 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 4: I don't know, son of a bitch. 22 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: Hold on, let me see what I can do. 23 00:00:59,160 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 4: I don't know. 24 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: It's just one two one too. 25 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 4: No, that's not it all we sound all we low? 26 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 5: Uh? 27 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: It's recording low. I don't know why it's recording low. 28 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 3: It's if Nope, that doesn't do it. One two one two, 29 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 3: that doesn't do it, son of a gun. 30 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 5: Oh, because I about to say, we sound fine to me, 31 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 5: sound good. Yeah, but for some reason, like you say, 32 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 5: the it's not. 33 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it doesn't like it's recording good. So that is uh, 34 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: not what I want to do. 35 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: Let me see. Nope, that's not. 36 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 5: Oh all the time about the way it's in putting 37 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 5: into the computer. Yeah, I don't know what's causing issue. 38 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 2: Baby. 39 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, did you want to stop and figure it out 40 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 5: or just continue recording? 41 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 4: It's up to you. 42 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 3: Let me see if I can. Okay, that's a little better. 43 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just it seems like it's recording weird. Okay, 44 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: that's actually better. I wonder if we're too loud in 45 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 3: the chat now we probably because we sound turned my 46 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: headphones down. 47 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, but said we sound loud in my is wall. 48 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: Turn your headphones down to Yeah. I think I had to. 49 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: I think I turned the volume down. 50 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: Yesterday I recorded with Evan and them a new spinoff 51 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 3: show that they're doing about Buffy. It's called Remember That 52 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 3: And basically we watch an episode of Buffy once a week. 53 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's actually fun because when Roger grell I 54 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 5: initially watched Buffy, he like Binge watched it. 55 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 4: I didn't. I did. 56 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 5: I was kind of bouncing in and out with him. 57 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 5: So I've never actually sat down and watched Buffy. So 58 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 5: I'm going to try my best to watch it once 59 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 5: a week with you guys. 60 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, every Sunday afternoon, I think at six pm, we're 61 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: gonna watch an episode of Buffy. We already watched episode 62 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 3: one of Buffy. You can go to the twelb feed 63 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 3: on on iTunes of stitch your Radio and find it. 64 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: And it was me, Aaron, Raan Freeman, the jayler Ree 65 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: and Elon and basically we watching episode of Buffy. A 66 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: live tweeted using the hashtag remember that Buffy. Then afterwards 67 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: we we have a quick recap. We talked about, you know, 68 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: how we felt about the episode. And I believe you 69 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 3: can even take the audio press play on the episode 70 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 3: of Buffy and listen to us kind of make jokes 71 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 3: as it plays along with you. 72 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: So it was really fun. 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Don't worry about it. 135 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: It's really cool. 136 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 3: You know, you guys are sure everybody will enjoy that one. 137 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: She'll get a laugh out of it. You guys will 138 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: crack up. You'll remember that one for years. So that's 139 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: what I would do. 140 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: Guysfe they're not gonna let her in. 141 00:06:58,040 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 3: They're not gonna let her in. She don't have a 142 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: reservation game, so that's the thing. She just gonna have 143 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 3: to come home. 144 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 2: So but you. 145 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 5: Guys, upset, come on, man, that they will not be any. 146 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: Ha ha ha ha. You guys will both have a laugh. 147 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: You remember this year from now when you. 148 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 4: Get y'all stabbed, y'all don't believe him. 149 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: Just tru Women have a much better sense of humor 150 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: then they let on. 151 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 5: And uh. 152 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: You know a lot of times people think women are humorless. 153 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: And I say no, I say women are just as 154 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 3: funny as men. And I agree, hilarity in this. 155 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: And I agree, and and and and and she should 156 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 5: tell you you're gonna get some pussy to night and 157 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 5: get you red and have you in the bed and 158 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 5: you show up and she don't take an ass in 159 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 5: there and say April fools, and see how you a. 160 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a real knee slapper. You both got, both 161 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: of you guys. 162 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 5: Can have a knee slapper. Yeah, with an empty belly 163 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 5: and you with a hard dick. Yeah, let's see how 164 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 5: that night end is. 165 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll be the funniest night of the year. Yes 166 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: you will, Okay, all right, Hedie. I was looking at 167 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: the news man, and there's a lot of new stuff 168 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: coming up. Did you know that Noah topped the box 169 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: office forty four million dollars? 170 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: Wow, it's the only thing that really came out last weekain. 171 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: It Abotage came out, the Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. 172 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 3: Oh but then you said I got terror reviews. Yeah, 173 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: but what I mean you just said, I mean you 174 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: don't know that till you go see it, right. 175 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: Oh, that's true, that's true. 176 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 3: Well it's funny though, because you know, this movie comes 177 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 3: out and I feel like, you know, it's It's one 178 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 3: of the only movies I've ever seen where. 179 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, the critics ready it 180 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: higher than the fans. 181 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 3: That almost never happened because fans, for better or worse, 182 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: we go see a movie because we want to see it. True, 183 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: we only leave there going where we entertained. We want 184 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: to be entertained. 185 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 2: Yes, quite often when we leave a theater, I had 186 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: a good experience. It was cool inside. I had some 187 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: pop some popcorns, and not your experience. Yeah, well, if 188 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: it's a bad if it's a bad movie. But I'm 189 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: talking about people who leave positive reviews. Oh, the fans 190 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 2: are more. 191 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: In Uh, they're more in a you know, I only 192 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: go to the theater maybe a few times a year. 193 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: This is one of the times I left my house. 194 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 4: So they're not in like that critical perspective. 195 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they want to have a good time. 196 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 3: Very rarely with fans give something a worse rating the critics, 197 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: because critics, you know, they go see movies all the time, 198 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 3: a lot of times, it's part of their job. They're 199 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: not getting popcorns, SODA's there, you know. If anything, they're 200 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: just like, oh God, I gotta sit through another two 201 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: hours of bullshit. 202 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 5: And you know, hundreds of possibly thousands of movies they 203 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 5: watched it the course of. 204 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: The year exactly, So very rarely when you see a 205 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: situation like this where fans go, this movie is bullshit 206 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,599 Speaker 3: and critics are like, I like it. 207 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 5: It must be different then for critics, you know, because 208 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 5: critics only don't rave and praise anything unless it's just 209 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 5: very different. 210 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: My theory is that fans are going to see it, 211 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 3: and a lot of fans are going to see it 212 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 3: because precisely what Hollywood is planning. On the same way 213 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: nerds go see combook movies, Christians are going to see 214 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: Christian movies. Yes, yes, I agree, I agree, And somewhere 215 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 3: along the line they're forgetting this is actually you know. 216 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 4: Movie, yep, say, in the same way some nerves do. 217 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, So they don't have, you know, any type 218 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: of obligation in their opinion to keep it to the Bible, 219 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 3: and they're just trying to make a kick ass movie. 220 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: And I think people are walking out of there kind 221 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 3: of like, yeah, like if you read the book version 222 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 3: of a movie and you walked out and you go 223 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: you went to the movie, and you're like, none of 224 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: the shit happened, That's kind of how people are treating it. 225 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 3: You know, this is not historically accurate, how you know, 226 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 3: quotes around historically accurate, but you know, this is not 227 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: accurate to the story of the in the. 228 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: Bible, so which is very boring. Yeah, which I wouldn't 229 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: want to see, by the way. But yeah, So they 230 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: made forty four million dollars this weekend. The apparently Black 231 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: Swan director Darren Aronovsky, you know, who's a really good director. 232 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 2: I like Black Swan a lot less of religious groups 233 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: to claim the story I've been inaccurately depicted and prompt 234 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: the paramount to add a disclaimer to marketing materials noting 235 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: the artistic license have been taken and telling the stories, 236 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 2: which is so laughable to me. 237 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 4: Y'all. It's a fucking movie. It's a movie. 238 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 3: First of all, artistic license is taken in every story. 239 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 3: Second of all, it's the most unbelievable story in the Bible. Probably, 240 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 3: I mean a book full of very unbelievable stories, this 241 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: one might be the most unbelievable story. And people are like, well, 242 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: don't change it, because obviously this is exactly how it happened. 243 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: But apparently the polarizing attention apparently paid off for Noah, 244 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 3: which features such additions to the well known Bible story 245 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 3: as angelic rock creatures and chic wardrobes for Noah and 246 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: his family. Yeah, wardrobes on the bottom of the list. 247 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 3: Didn't even notice that, didn't You won't be like, oh, 248 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: I can't believe that wardrobe. 249 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 2: No. 250 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tons of other shit where you're like, that's bullshit, 251 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 3: and that's bullshit. Noah, which also stars Jennifer Connley and 252 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 3: Emma Watson, who selled smoothly in twenty two international markets 253 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: such as Russia and austral Australia, earning three three hundred 254 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 3: thirty three point six million abroad. So this shit made 255 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: like fucking seventy something million dollars in a weekend. It 256 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 3: certainly feels like the film has really connected with both 257 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: mainstream moviegoers who are looking for a really sophisticated film 258 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 3: and those folks who wanted to see a movie that 259 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 3: honors their face. 260 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: That Rob Moore, Paramount Vice President Chairman. 261 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: It It's been a very interesting journey to get to 262 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 3: this point, but it's definitely a spectacular launch. Noah's the 263 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: latest faith centric film to win over or this is 264 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: Your Your others include they independently released God's Not Dead, 265 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 3: which earned nine million in the second outing this weekend, 266 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 3: and The Son of God, who who's domestic total now 267 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: stands at forty fifty seven point nine million since Openland 268 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: last last month. 269 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: No, I'll did that in one weekend. 270 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the new comic books. 271 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: Yes, it is, like people are going to start taking 272 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 3: these Bibles and I'm ready for it. Like I can't 273 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: wait for a lot starring Colin Farrell, Like just old 274 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: white men that kind of need to hit, you know, 275 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 3: like I'm here for this. 276 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 4: I'm ready for David. 277 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt Damon and David. 278 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 3: Yes, you know I will watch that. So you got 279 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 3: David versus Goliath. 280 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 4: That's true, that's true. 281 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: They get like Jude Law versus The Rock. 282 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 4: You know, Oh, that would be. 283 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 2: They would have magical powers and ship and dude, still 284 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 2: about Abraham. 285 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 4: Let my people go yep. 286 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: I think these biblical theme movies are like the next 287 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 3: Hollywood frontier, said Paul dere garab Didian. 288 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 4: All right, oh do you think they do your story 289 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: about somebody? Said Adam and Eve? 290 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: Uh? Yeah, sure, why not? 291 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: You know, Adam and Eve and they can have a 292 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 3: magical battle against the snake in the garden. And I mean, 293 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: it's not like you gotta go by the script. 294 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 4: One to two brothers lighting. 295 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: Cant and Abel the epic showdown. Yeah, sniper rifles listen, 296 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 3: and not to be give to me. It'sposed in the 297 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: Knower movie. There there's a grenade lodger. Guys in the 298 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: In the Knower movie, there's a goodnade lot which is caught. 299 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 4: Of course, shouldn't even be invented back then. 300 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: They don't even explain how or why that ship was, 301 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: just that there's a grenade lodger and that that happens. 302 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: I love that movie. 303 00:14:59,280 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: It's so good. 304 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 5: Oh that right there would be good, you know, because 305 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 5: the thing about it is that when people talk about 306 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 5: like the accuracy of them covering it, it's a lot 307 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 5: of fucked up shit that happened in the Bible. Daughters 308 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 5: and brothers and sisters leap with each other, son, I mean, uh, 309 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 5: posit sleep with their daughters, all kinds of you know, 310 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 5: shit like that. So if you're gonna coverage, okay, you 311 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 5: need to cover all those stories. They probably get mad 312 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,239 Speaker 5: about that part. But we're inaccurate. 313 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 4: This is what you want it right. 314 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: Hollywood hadn't cracked the code on a biblical movie that 315 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: would have mainstream appeal. 316 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: Now I think they figured it out. 317 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 3: We may see a flood putting Clinton tended coming down 318 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: the pipeline. We already have. Heaven is for real and 319 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: Exodus slated for later this year. Exodus is the movie 320 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 3: that's gonna be starring Christian Bell. 321 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, you're right, you right. 322 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 5: They they, like you said, they found basically that you 323 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 5: got it when you have a built in fan base, 324 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 5: like you say, similar the comic books, where they know 325 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 5: even if people get mad, people and on every single 326 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 5: one of these movies they would come and spend their 327 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 5: money just to turn around and complained about the ship 328 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 5: and how that much they didn't like it. But when 329 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 5: the next blockbuster movie come out, you know they're still 330 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 5: gonna come because almost like they can't help themselves, almost 331 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 5: type of thing. And yeah, they know that it's a 332 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 5: fan base that will do that because I think with 333 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 5: the Son of God, I mean, we went to go 334 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 5: see something else that weekend and everybody in line was 335 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 5: going to see it and I didn't even realize it came. 336 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 5: I was like, what was like eighteen people in front 337 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 5: of us buying this going to see this movie? 338 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 339 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, people were lined up to see it, especially in 340 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: the South. 341 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 7: So you know. 342 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: The other thing too, is I love that. 343 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: I love that all these stories in the Bible, I 344 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 3: having basically Africa, Egypt, the Middle East, and they don't 345 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: even bother to try to cast black people, brown people, Jewish. 346 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: They just go to the most aryant looking white dudes 347 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 3: and go, how would you like to be Moses? 348 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 2: Moses? Did you like? 349 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 350 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, Christian bell Moses, did you you know? And bench game. 351 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 2: It's not like Christian Belle is a bullshit actor. He's 352 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 2: going to take it serious. Oh he's going to act 353 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 2: the hell out shit. I might go see that one. 354 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: Then he's probably someone starving himself and being whipped right now. 355 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 3: Role Russell Crowe, he took it serious, but it's just amazing, 356 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: Like there's no black people in Africa, and the entire 357 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 3: NOA movie is just white people fighting, battling each other. 358 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: It's just oh so good. I hope everybody sees it. 359 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, Mopus most Wanted, Uh didn't do too well 360 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 3: and only catch a third place of eleven point four 361 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 3: million his first weekend last week and made thirty three 362 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: point two. 363 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: Million, which is a terrible bud. 364 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 3: You know, I thought that preview looked good and then 365 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: it just got such bad reviews. 366 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: I was like, I guess I'm gonna see it, wow. 367 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 5: Because they and you know, and it was sprosim if 368 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 5: day of losing money off of that movie because they 369 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 5: spent billions in promotion. 370 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 4: I mean, goddamn. 371 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 5: They was at Subway, They was on Saturda Night Live, 372 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 5: like Tipple Pus was everywhere. 373 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: I think they had a Super Bowl ad, didn't they? 374 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 4: Yes, they were everywhere. 375 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's gonna be weird because like I wanted 376 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: to see that movie. It got kind of some bad reviews, 377 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: and it was off the heels of the Lego movie, 378 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 3: which also appeals to adults but with nostalgia, and I 379 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 3: thought that's what they were trying to go with and 380 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 3: turns out nobody likes that shit. 381 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 5: So and they've had Muffett movies to come out in 382 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 5: the past and made their money. So I don't know 383 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 5: if it was something about this one, you know, because 384 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 5: they've come out with Muffett movies before in the past. 385 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know. 386 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 3: Also, in addition to this, Arnold Swarzenegger, like I said, 387 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 3: he got sabotage came out. It was his third straight 388 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 3: bomb and his lowest box office opening ever. 389 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 5: Wow, Because don't I ain't trying to be funny, Don't 390 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 5: I don't want to see his old ass, like like 391 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 5: that's something. The thing about it is that you can 392 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 5: have the old white man thing, but you still have 393 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 5: to be somebody that people want to go see. Like 394 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 5: if another die Hard Gold comes out, motherfucker's gonna watch 395 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 5: die Hard no matter how terrible it is, because we 396 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 5: want to watch the old white man. But he's old 397 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 5: and there's nothing about him that really draws people, you. 398 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: Know, to seeing him. 399 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 5: I might be wrong, but it's just one of them things. 400 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 5: But they'd be like, I don't a swats nigga. 401 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: Yeah right. 402 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: It's funny though, because like I think people forgot he's 403 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: not a good actor. 404 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 2: No, he's not like it was. He's laughably bad. 405 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 3: Everyone does his switz nigger impression, which is always bad, 406 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: and his acting is bad. 407 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: And I'm a cop from Detroit with an Austrian accent. 408 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: You know. It was kind of like the running joke, 409 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: Oh the Governator. 410 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 3: Oh, you know, the characters that gave him had to 411 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: have wooden personalities because he's a wooden actors conan who 412 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: says two words a movie. It's Terminator who's a robot 413 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 3: and doesn't need to speak. It's right, No, Rainbow's not 414 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: him stallone. 415 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they started to blend together, y'all. 416 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 2: Not that. Yeah, I guess I can see why you 417 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: get those confused. 418 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 3: They can't act, but yeah, it's kind of funny that, 419 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: you know, people cling to him. Yeah, Michael t Ford 420 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 3: says in the chat room, they're trying to add aging 421 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 3: to terminators so they can keep them in a new 422 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: Terminator movie. Wow, they explained why an old ass terminator 423 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 3: is in the movie just so they can say Arnold's 424 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 3: in this movie. 425 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 2: Let it go, guys, so it's time is done. 426 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, because the last Terminator, they was like, he's in 427 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 5: the movie and they did that ship they did with 428 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 5: The Rock, how they have him like them like the 429 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 5: Rock gonna be in one of the Moby movies. And 430 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 5: he turned around he was trying to put in and 431 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 5: he was like, this is some bullshit. 432 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 2: It's it's funny man. 433 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, he's had three box office flops in a row. 434 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 7: Uh. 435 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 3: Sabotage is the latest. He only made five point two 436 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: million dollars for Open Road. 437 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 2: It looked great. 438 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. I watched those trailers. 439 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 3: I still am going to see it. I want to 440 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 3: see this ship so bad like his his his family 441 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 3: is gonna get the ship kidnapped out of him, all 442 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: his you know, all his friends gonna die ah. 443 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 5: In it do Yeah, I'm you know what you're talking about. 444 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 5: You might change my mind because it does have a 445 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 5: boy Terrence Howard in it. 446 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 447 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go see it. It's gonna be good. I 448 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: don't care what anybody says. 449 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: Uh. And if it's bad, the element is bad. I saw. 450 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: I saw Escape Plan, which was terrible, but I enjoyed it. 451 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 3: But it was really, really, really terrible. One of the 452 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: worst movies I've seen all year. Last year boring old 453 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 3: man stallone and Schwarzenegger acted hamming it up, doing terrible, 454 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 3: yeah so bad, no legit like bad guy with any charisma, 455 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 3: but it didn't matter. And that was that got nine 456 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: point two million. That was him and Sevestisterloon. Last Dan 457 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: was even worse last January six point two million. So 458 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 3: he is just flopping at the flop at the flop 459 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 3: ain't paying. 460 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 5: Him no big time money because if they are, they 461 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 5: paying him alone is probably putting you under right. 462 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,959 Speaker 3: So he has roughly thirty movies that he's made more 463 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 3: than four billion dollars at worldwide box office since his 464 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: first movie, Hercules in New York, debut in nineteen seventy. 465 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 2: But as big as his. 466 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 3: Like Terminator, True Lives, the total recall came decades ago 467 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 3: when he was governor. 468 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: He didn't want to do movies with guns. 469 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 3: And you know, I think people got hyped like, oh, 470 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: he's gonna come back, and they realize, oh, yeah, an 471 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: old ass man bodybuilder, not as cool and impossible and 472 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 3: bad ass as young buff you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger. 473 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 5: And what they don't tell you is there a lot 474 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 5: of a lot of these old dudes look like they've 475 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 5: had present surgery. They look like they're on drugs, Like 476 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 5: like they shit, look supernatural. You seventy two and you 477 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 5: cut finding in a nineteen year old Come on dog, Yeah. 478 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 4: You got aps and shit. 479 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 5: You you know you ain't got off right as you 480 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 5: ain't got hearing issues. You know you ain't got God 481 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 5: comb in your eyes. You rocking out there like you 482 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 5: twenty five? Get the fuck out of here. 483 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: Also, yesterday we had a nice discussion with actress Lily 484 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: Nelson about the Cancel Cobert campaign. 485 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 6: And The New. 486 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 3: Yorker actually had to write up about it, and uh, 487 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 3: it was really telling, and for me personally, it sadly 488 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: it was kind of predictable of what I thought was 489 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 3: going on. But sometimes you wish, you almost wish you 490 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 3: didn't get it confirmed, because. 491 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: Being right is sometimes it sucks. 492 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 3: Sometimes, you know, I'm I'm I guess I'm pretty cynical 493 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 3: about people in general, and this is one of those 494 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 3: times where you're like, fuck, you know, I really wish 495 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 3: there have been better motivations behind it, but there weren't. 496 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 3: On Thursday night, the official Twitter account, we kind of 497 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 3: went over this, but I just kind of want to 498 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 3: read it so people can kind of get some more details, 499 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: but the Cobet Report, obviously the Twitter account delivered the 500 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: punchline of a joke without the setup. I am willing 501 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 3: to show hashtag aging community I care by introducing Chin 502 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 3: Chong Dean Dong Foundation for since Tivity, the Orientals or whatever. 503 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 3: It was meant to be a stelier goal analog to 504 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 3: the Washington Redskins Original American Foundation, whose creation was announced 505 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 3: earlier this weekend by the team's own owner, Daniel Snyder, 506 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 3: team's owner. 507 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 2: But you know, obviously it was part of. 508 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: A skit that happened on the Wednesday episode of The 509 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 3: Kobet Report. 510 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: It had been over twenty four hours. 511 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: Nobody seemed to have any problem with it, but then 512 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: this tweet came out. I think people that didn't even 513 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 3: know haven't even watched the episode of the show, hadn't 514 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: watched the skit, just saw it and were like, I'm 515 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 3: offended because it's early and honestly, how ironic is it? 516 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: Or maybe if you ask Jail Covid, how poignant and 517 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: predictable is it? Comedy Central didn't even recognize that that 518 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 3: would not go over well as a joke. Nope, you 519 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 3: can't just deliver the punchline to the joke, you know 520 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: what I mean. 521 00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: It's like if it's like. 522 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 3: If someone just tweeted niggas and chickens are quite fond 523 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 3: of one another without telling you the original Dave Japelle 524 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: bit that starts that joke, people would be like, well, 525 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: that's offensive. 526 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: Yes, you know, the whole point of a joke is 527 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 2: getting to a point. 528 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: Where you take the offensive thing and you go, yeah, yeah, 529 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,439 Speaker 3: it's not offensive, but only in the context and the 530 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: confines of what I've done here. It's why a lot 531 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 3: of comedians, if you just took their punchline and threw 532 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 3: it out there and no one understood the context, people 533 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: would be like, that motherfucker either isn't funny or he's 534 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 3: an asshole. 535 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: True. 536 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 5: And this also is one of those things like don't 537 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 5: y'all know, don't you know and understand the concept of 538 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 5: Twitter right right? 539 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 3: You know, It's like if Elon James was just going 540 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: Fried White Baby all the time and people were like, 541 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 3: what the fuck are you talking about? And so, you 542 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: know what I mean, people be walking out the street like, yeah, 543 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: that dude's an insane person. He keeps talking about eating 544 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 3: babies and they have to be white for some reason, 545 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: so he's a racist, insane person. Like people would just 546 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: be like, fuck, I don't know what's going on. But 547 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: if you throw context in there, it does change the 548 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: reception typically, you know. And for this this joke that 549 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 3: he put on the air, people laughed in the crowd. 550 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 3: People that saw the clip, you know, shared it or whatever. 551 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 3: It was going for over twenty four hours and then 552 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 3: the Comedy Central account said hey, here's the punchline out 553 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 3: of context, and everybody went, what you. 554 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 5: Know, Yeah, that's that's their fault for not understanding, for 555 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 5: not understanding, And to me, it also as as people 556 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 5: that do as comedians, even though I'm not one, I 557 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 5: know for them it has to be frustrating when people 558 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 5: who don't know or don't understand the construct of comedy 559 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 5: do shit like this. When you were like you can't 560 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 5: do this and did go ha ha ha and get 561 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 5: mad when people don't understand what you're doing because you're 562 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 5: you're not doing this in a comedic manner like like 563 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, Like if you was to actually float a 564 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 5: series of tweets and this was like boom, that's another story. 565 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 5: But like you say, just floating that tweet out there 566 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 5: on its own, with nothing before it, you know, I 567 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 5: mean nothing around it, just a random tweet like that. 568 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 5: People are gonna get angry. And that's what happens when 569 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 5: you when when you allow people that don't really understand 570 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 5: the concept of comedy trying to do stuff like this. 571 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know the way that social media is 572 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 3: kind of blended with activism at this point, you can't 573 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 3: help but have some overlap into just the social aspects 574 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 3: of social media and then the media aspects of social media, 575 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 3: and then you throw in activism, and it's a lot 576 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: about who's whose friend? How many followers are you gonna get, 577 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: How can you get something to trend around the world? 578 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: Can you get people to add on? Are people gonna 579 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: follow each other? It's just inextrictably linked with social media, 580 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: and there's. 581 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: Nothing that can be done about it. But it's always 582 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 2: to me an element that can be used for it, 583 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: like a tool for good or bad. 584 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: It doesn't have to be. It has no morals to it. 585 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: It's just can I make this trend? Can I get 586 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: people to like me, to follow me, to support whatever 587 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 3: I do. It's just part of what social media is 588 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 3: so yeah, so the joke really isn't that complicated. Darren 589 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 3: Daniel Snyder created a charitable organization for the benefit of 590 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 3: a community and use a racial ebitat for that same 591 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 3: community in the organization's name. So here's an observed, fictional, 592 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: extra extra extrapolation of Snyder's own logic. Everyone who hates 593 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 3: both racism and Daniel Snyder laughs. And it's funny because 594 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: sometimes people are like, well, you can't if you're not aging, 595 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: you can't possibly understand. 596 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 2: I'm black. This happens with black people all the time. 597 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: I've seen him do. I've seen Stephen Colbert do stuff 598 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: in blackface. M you know what I mean. 599 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: I've had people like I talked about vic family guy. 600 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 3: He's like, I love family Guy. If they do any 601 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: black jokes, he goes, that's racist. Any other joke he's 602 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: fine with. 603 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: So when he's tuning in c in black face, I mean, 604 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: so when he's tuning inc and jokes on Asians, Native Americans, 605 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 2: the Irish, whatever the fuck hilarious, make a joke about 606 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: a person that looks like him, you're racist. 607 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, And that's why for a lot of people that's 608 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 5: very hypocritical, because either in my personal opinion, and I 609 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 5: know a lot of people aren't just. 610 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 4: Cut and dry. 611 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 5: If you're gonna laugh and be open to it, laugh 612 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 5: at everything, and sometimes guess what, your ass is gonna 613 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 5: be the butt of the joke. That's a part of comedy. 614 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 5: Somebody gotta be the butt of the joke. And it's 615 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 5: just one of those things where it's funny as long 616 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 5: as it's not me mentality, and. 617 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 4: It's one of those things. 618 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 5: Well, it's like, it's very frustrating dealing with people like 619 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 5: that because you can't get them to understand, well, why 620 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 5: the fuck you laughing at the other shit, but you 621 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 5: at this shit? 622 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 4: You draw your line here. 623 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, I won't say you have to laugh and everything, 624 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: and some shit just isn't funny to people. 625 00:30:59,440 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 6: True. 626 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: Now, sometimes people do get offended. 627 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna try to take that away from them, 628 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: but I do find it questionable if it's okay for 629 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: Stephen Colbert to make jokes about black people somehow, or 630 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: you know, Southerners or just any group you're not part of, 631 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: until it gets to your group, then it's like, this 632 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 3: shit needs to get taken off the air. That is 633 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 3: weird to me, and that's because he's been doing that 634 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: for ten years at this point. Yeah, and the character 635 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: he plays it often does exactly this on topics of race, 636 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 3: which is I'm gonna go over the top to show 637 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: how stupid racism is. And it's hit literally hit every 638 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 3: racial group, but this time everybody's like, no, it's different, which. 639 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 5: You know, which which which I don't believe in, And 640 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 5: it's and it's just one of those things. But I 641 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 5: just think it's weird not And I guess my level 642 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 5: of comedy is very open, you know. It's one of 643 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 5: those things where regardless of who it's about, even if 644 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 5: it's about my my race, if it's funny, it's funny. 645 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 4: But I know everybody's not open to that. Nearby. It's 646 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 4: like it's funny as long as it ain't me. 647 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean there's people that are just support 648 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: the people too, Like they're not Asian, they're not whatever, 649 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 3: but they support these people for being upset, you know, 650 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 3: and they're just going to be. 651 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: Their allives in it and all that stuff. 652 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 3: That's why I saw a lot on Twitter was people 653 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: that weren't even you know, they're not Asian, but they 654 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 3: just want to support people who are have a grepe 655 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 3: with with the Cobert Show because of this right on Twitter, 656 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: where words often slipp free of the context, the undercompany 657 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 3: punchline sparked the firestorm of outrage, which quickly escalated into 658 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 3: a campaign demanding the show's cancelation. The hashtag hashtag cancel 659 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 3: Cobert became one of Twitter's trending topics across the United States, 660 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 3: and propor to Comedy Central to point out that the 661 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 3: tweet and question, which was soon deleted, was puposted by 662 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: a corporate account that Cobert did not control. Cancel Colbert 663 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 3: started with Suey Park, a twenty three year old writer 664 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 3: and activists who is in December of last year, came 665 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: in toward the prominence when she set up hashtag not 666 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 3: your Asian Sidekick. 667 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: I saw people retweeting, participating in this. 668 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: You know, people were celebrating it as a moment of 669 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 3: you know, Asian American people being able to like voice 670 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 3: their frustrations with feminism and traditionally, you know, white feminism, and. 671 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 2: You know, this is one of those things. 672 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 3: You start this trend, people contribute to it, people follow you, 673 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 3: people want to read your blog post. 674 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: People you know, like it can benefit you. 675 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 4: Yes, it's a big self promotion commercial. You just free. 676 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 2: Basically Yeah. 677 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 3: The hashtag has generated tens of thousands of tweets, which 678 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: in turn led to wide coverage from mainstream media organizations, 679 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 3: and Park has gone on to start or facilitate several 680 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 3: other successful hashtags, including hashtag POC for cultural enrichment. 681 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: So I guess personal color for most cultural amisment, hashtag 682 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: black power, yellow peril. 683 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 3: And for her Ever, I don't know not, you know, honestly, 684 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 3: I'm not even trying to to. We'll get to the 685 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 3: point where while I'm saying I don't care anymore about 686 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: the hashtag shit, I'm just done for her. Ever, she 687 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: was named when The Guardians Top thirty young people in. 688 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 2: Digital medium. 689 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: Park, now a veteran of so called hashtag activism, started 690 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 3: a campaign with the following tweet chan Chaw Dean don 691 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 3: Foundation for Sensitivity The Orientals has decided to call for 692 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 3: hashtag cancel Colbert trended basically telling the followers use this 693 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 3: cash tag, We're gonna get it trending for canceling Cobert's 694 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 3: TV show. As Cancel Colbert grew, Park acted as something 695 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: of an online personal trainer, exhorting her followers to push 696 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 3: the hashtag up the list of Twitter trending topics. In response, 697 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 3: tens of thousands people came to Colbert's defense, many of 698 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: them apparently outraged at the outrage. By lunchtime on Friday, 699 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 3: when Dad's Been published a post by two Korean American 700 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: writers with a tongue in cheek headline gooks don't get 701 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: redskin joke hashtag cancel, Colbert had become another online feeding 702 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: trial for attacking heat, attracting heated commentary from everyone who 703 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 3: has ever thought anything about race in this country. As 704 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 3: Dad's been noted, it has also shifted the debate away 705 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: from Daniel Snyder and the name of his football team. Yes, yeah, 706 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 3: this lady on my Facebook page, who's actually because we 707 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 3: had a pretty good discussion on my Facebook page to day, 708 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 3: who's actually? 709 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 2: A Native American? Was like, fuck this woman. 710 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 3: Because someone was shedding light on the cause of Native Americans, 711 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 3: which she's part of that group to get this name 712 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 3: change and point out how ridiculous and silly it was. 713 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 3: And someone could not wait to make this about Asian 714 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: people and say fuck Native Americans. As always dismissed them 715 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 3: and moved to what about us? 716 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 2: You know, it was like they get pushed to the side, Uggain. 717 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it takes the light off of the entire 718 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 4: joke all together. 719 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 720 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 3: And you know, there's debate to be had, and like 721 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 3: someone says in the chat, like I'm having trouble with 722 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 3: the concept of someone who trends hashtags on Twitter as 723 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 3: an activist quote unquote, Yeah, there's debates to be had 724 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 3: about that and what good it does and all that, 725 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't want to get into it. I 726 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 3: don't want to discredit people. Hopefully, you know, those people 727 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 3: are seeing real change and stuff like that, because I've 728 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 3: seen some good come of stuff like that, and I 729 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 3: wouldn't want to dismit throw the baby out with the bathwater, honestly, 730 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 3: even if I'm way more skeptical now than I was before, 731 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 3: you know, because I'll give people the benefit of the 732 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 3: doubt typically, but I don't know, I'll keep reading. I 733 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: called Park on Friday to ask her about how hashtag 734 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 3: canceled Cobert got started. She said she saw the offending 735 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 3: tweet while eating dinner Thursday night and decided to respond 736 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 3: to it. Despite her online profile and the forceful, yet 737 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 3: some times decidedly academic tone of her advocacy. Park does 738 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 3: not consider herself a full time activist and claims that 739 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 3: she does not particularly enjoy hustling. 740 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 2: Alger cash hashtag. 741 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 3: Her degree of involvement in hashtag calls her hashtag calls, 742 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 3: she said, depends on how much free time she has 743 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 3: at the moment and whether. 744 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 2: Particularly particularly issue peaks her interests. 745 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 3: It's not it's not like I enjoy missing scandal the 746 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 3: tweet about the cobertra for what she said, you know which, like, 747 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 3: I guess the cavalierness of that just kind of it's 748 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 3: funny thinking that literally people probably lost friends over this shit. 749 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 2: People blocked each other. People that probably were agree on 750 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: ninety nine percent of things don't speak anymore. 751 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 5: People on Facebook and Twitter and Google Plus all in 752 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 5: each other's back and forth and arguing it. 753 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, people got really upset over this ship. It's just 754 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,720 Speaker 3: weird that something that casual. It's like, might watch Scandal, 755 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, or. 756 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 4: Calls I don't take it as see, don't call me activists. 757 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, every debate on Twitter gets put through the platforms 758 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 2: peculiar distortion effect, the forum's inherent limitations, the one hundred 759 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 2: and forty character limited fleeting, shelf life, forward volume, frequency, 760 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,800 Speaker 2: and furvor rather the nuanced complexity and persuasion. That's true, 761 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: you know, because you don't have one hundred and forty 762 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 2: words the characters to put it into. You know. 763 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 3: This might feel unseeming to unsmily to those who value 764 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 3: more refined conversation, but there's no denying the viol power 765 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 3: of hashtag activists who capitalize on the speed of which 766 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,240 Speaker 3: a single tweet and multiply it to something that resembles 767 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 3: a protest rally. A new Twitter outrage seems to deatonate 768 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 3: every week, and in many cases, the voice is raised 769 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 3: in these social media movements along the groups. They do 770 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 3: not have equal representation within the mainstream media, but they 771 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 3: should not therefore be immune to cauestions or criticism. 772 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 2: That's the thing that this is the underlying. 773 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 3: Point that I was trying to get to, is people 774 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 3: kind of want it both ways. 775 00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: They want to kind of. 776 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 3: Start these trends, and if you question them at all, 777 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 3: it's like they jumped to well, somebody said they was 778 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 3: gonna kill me. So you're defending those people unless you 779 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 3: just join my side or shut the fuck up. Like 780 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 3: if you say, well, I just don't agree. And here's 781 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 3: why I don't agree. They won't let you even discuss it. 782 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 3: It'll get to, well, are you trying to say, I 783 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 3: mean these people are talking about raping me. It's like, well, 784 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,479 Speaker 3: I'm not and I don't think that's cool, But we're 785 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 3: not gonna be able to discuss that. 786 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 2: I think you're wrong. No, because they don't give a shit. Yeah, Like, 787 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 2: it's just you don't get to have the conversation. It's 788 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 2: like because they don't want to have it. 789 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 3: Like, honestly, at this point, I'm led to believe maybe 790 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 3: it's just my cynicism, but that they would prefer to 791 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 3: talk about the troll people. Then to be like, Okay, 792 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 3: here's where I hear, reasonable person. 793 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 2: Why don't we talk? 794 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, because having a reasonable conversation across Twitter? 795 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 4: Guess what that don't get you follows? 796 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,359 Speaker 6: Guess it might? 797 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean it might. 798 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 6: I guess. 799 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 2: I know what you're saying is more salacious, the more argument, 800 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,400 Speaker 2: the more. 801 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 4: Hot take, it is more shade, the more I told you. 802 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 3: That, it's like the platform almost prefer as a fight 803 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 3: to a discussion. But but yeah, I guess I'm just 804 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, anyway. So, but yeah, I think 805 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 3: just because you're starting a trend and you're from a 806 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,720 Speaker 3: marginalized voice doesn't mean no one can. 807 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 2: Say anything to you. 808 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 4: I think that's true. 809 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 3: That's a mistake a lot of people make, where it's like, well, 810 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 3: now I'm in my space. 811 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: It's like, well, people are still gonna have questions. People. 812 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 2: If you just you know, dismiss. 813 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 3: Everybody or avoid everybody, then you're gonna end up with 814 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 3: a lot of people who are like, yeah, I. 815 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 2: Don't want to deal with you anymore. 816 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 3: It is no simple thing to determine whether Twitter outrage 817 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 3: can itself expand the terms of discourse, and Child's status 818 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 3: quo at his best hashtag not your Asian Sidekick provides 819 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 3: a channel for thousands of Asian American women's women and 820 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 3: their allies to discuss the tokenism that so often the 821 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 3: company's broad conversations about diversity in this country just satisfied 822 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 3: with the idea of a seat at the table, Park 823 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 3: uses social media to facilitate the self contained conversation among 824 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,640 Speaker 3: Asian Americans that does not require any explanation or translation 825 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 3: of our shared cultural norms. I think a lot of 826 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 3: people did this, where it's like, hey, I like black Twitter, 827 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 3: quote unquote, because I don't have to, Like, I can 828 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 3: just talk in the voice that I talk to my family. 829 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 3: I don't need to translate this so that white people 830 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 3: can't understand it, or people that. 831 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 2: Aren't from America or aren't even from our street. 832 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 3: You know, like if I want to use a slang 833 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,759 Speaker 3: term that we only use in Charlotte, I can do. 834 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 4: That, Yes, you can. 835 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 3: You know, whereas you know, other social media, other platforms 836 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 3: that are broader, you almost have to translate to the 837 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:54,800 Speaker 3: general American dialogue, which by default is kind of white culture. 838 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 3: So people are like, true, now I can't say what 839 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 3: up young, that Bama was doing such and such a 840 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 3: case is like the white people. 841 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,320 Speaker 2: Are gonna be like, what the fuck are you talking about? 842 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: So I had to explain. You know. 843 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 3: The ultimate significance of a string of tweets can always 844 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 3: be questioned, but that a hashtag conversation on Twitter could 845 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 3: have such residents speaks to just how desperate Asian Americans 846 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 3: have been to talk about identity without the fern to 847 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 3: the familiar binaries that shape most discussions of race in 848 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 3: this country. Hashtag canceled Colbert could be seen as a 849 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 3: similar tempt to carve out space for Asian Americans to 850 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 3: discuss something that has nothing to do with parody Daniel 851 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 3: Snyder or the good intentions of Cobert the Cobert Report. 852 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,720 Speaker 3: There's a long tradition of American comedy dumpling, tasteless dumping, 853 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 3: dumpling forty in slip, my bad guys, dumping tasteless jokes 854 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 3: at the feet of Asians and Asian Americans that follow 855 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 3: the perception that we will silently weather the ridicule if 856 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 3: I were to, she. 857 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,399 Speaker 2: Says, we the person writing this is Asian Americans. Sorry, 858 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 2: so in case nobody understands that yet, Okay, if I 859 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: were to predict which minority group right the writers of 860 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 2: a show like Colbert Report would choose for an edgy 861 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 2: laid in parody, I had agreements and prepare myself for 862 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 2: some joke about rights, karate or broken English. 863 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 3: The result of discomfort has nothing to do with the 864 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 3: intentions of the joke or the political views of the 865 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 3: people laughing at it. Even when you want to be 866 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 3: in on the joke and you understand intellectually that you 867 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 3: are not the one being ridiculed, it's hard to not 868 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 3: wonder why these jokes always come into expense of those 869 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 3: least likely to protest. 870 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 2: I agree. I do think that is what a lot 871 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 2: of this is about. 872 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 3: And picking Colbert and the saying the cancel this show 873 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 3: was kind of an over the top way to voice it. 874 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 3: But I've always thought this too, is like, why is 875 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 3: it okay for people to make jokes about Asian people? 876 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 3: I know they get a lot of that model minority 877 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,240 Speaker 3: treatment in America, like you're even better than white people, 878 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, that shouldn't make 879 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 3: it okay to be racist to him. 880 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 2: I don't do that shit either. You know. I have 881 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 2: a friend Asian Chris, who called him that because I 882 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 2: have other friends named Chris, but he's the only one 883 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 2: this Asian, and I only say that, you know, to 884 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 2: him or the show or whatever. 885 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 3: But in general, though, we call like Asian Chris who 886 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 3: loves video games, uh, loves the Raid, and loves comic 887 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 3: book movies, and UH will talk to me about all 888 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 3: of those because guess what, I love that shit too. 889 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 3: He also a lot of times lets shit roll off 890 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 3: his back and I'll ask him, like, you know, like, man, 891 00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 3: you're not gonna say something to these motherfuckers because we're 892 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 3: hanging out with mostly white dudes, and if they say 893 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 3: some tasteless Asian joke, I'm like, really, man, you're cool 894 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 3: with that? You know, if they make a joke about 895 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 3: they make jokes about like the Vitech shooting, you know, 896 00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 3: because an Asian dude did that. 897 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 2: Now, this group of people does make. 898 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 3: A lot of inappropriate jokes, don't get me wrong, but 899 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 3: they never like they wouldn't make some joke about black 900 00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 3: shit that I wouldn't go, yeah, don't do that around me. 901 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 3: But Chris is more like, then whatever, because I think 902 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 3: Asian people just get subjected to that shit so much 903 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 3: more or and even with the air of you're better 904 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 3: than us, so we're just kind of taking you down 905 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 3: a peg. 906 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 2: To me, I would get mad. 907 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,120 Speaker 3: Yes, So I don't know how he's able to keep 908 00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 3: it cool, but I probably would have said something to 909 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,840 Speaker 3: somebody by now, you know. But so I can understand 910 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 3: the frustration, and I'm not trying to take that away 911 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 3: from him, because I agree, and you know, if this 912 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,839 Speaker 3: is what that is, I would understand and you can 913 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 3: stop it right there, because I would be like, cool, 914 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 3: I get it, it doesn't matter with the context. You 915 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 3: don't even care, Like, you just want to make this statement, 916 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,720 Speaker 3: and I'm assuming you're gonna make this statement anytime anyone 917 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 3: makes the jokes about anything aging, regardless of the purpose 918 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 3: or the context. 919 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,479 Speaker 2: You don't give a fuck, and that's fine. I won't 920 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,879 Speaker 2: support it. I won't agree with you. 921 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 3: I want I don't want to be involved in this, 922 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 3: but I get your why you would be mad too, 923 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 3: you know, But to me, it's on the same level 924 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 3: as when Vic gets mad that family God made a 925 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 3: black joke. Like I don't support Vic and that shit. 926 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 3: He can be mad all he wants, but you know, 927 00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,840 Speaker 3: it's like, you know, I wouldn't watch a show that 928 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 3: I would laugh at all the other jokes on every 929 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 3: other race except mine. 930 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,920 Speaker 4: Me too, and maybe because that's how I functioned too. 931 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 5: I'm looking like we're every other offensive shit is funny. 932 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 2: But this, it's like if we did guess the race 933 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,360 Speaker 2: and we were like, we're never going to read anything 934 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 2: about black people. 935 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 4: And we wouldn't have a show, you know, But just just. 936 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 3: Imagine being like, well, we won't cover any articles with 937 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,720 Speaker 3: black people, we won't take any guesses with black people. 938 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 2: Job not just a hard job. 939 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 3: That's not what I'm talking about speak to the topic, 940 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 3: forget about our show. What I'm saying is that would 941 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 3: be hypocritical to me. I would feel like a hypocrite 942 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,399 Speaker 3: being like, Oh, I don't mind if you guess something 943 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 3: about Latino people. I don't mind if you say something 944 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 3: racis about white people. I don't mind if it's something 945 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,479 Speaker 3: racist about Jewish people whatever. But if you talk about 946 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,919 Speaker 3: black people, oh fuck you, you all, you ass whole 947 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 3: Why would you do that? 948 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 2: You know we're black? That is to mere procracy. 949 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, but so many people don't like that, And because 950 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,320 Speaker 5: I don't function like that, I really give it decided, 951 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 5: especially if you're the type of person who has a 952 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 5: sense of human If you don't got no sense of human, 953 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,719 Speaker 5: fuck you. But if you literally got a sense of 954 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 5: humor and you're open and like you say, their exception 955 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 5: to this, that shit is not just not funny shit 956 00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,760 Speaker 5: just racist whatever. But if you're the type of person 957 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 5: that you watching something like Family Guy, because for a 958 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 5: lot of people, Family Guy is fucking offensive. It's a 959 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 5: whole concept by itself. So if you watch something like 960 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 5: that but you like ha ha ha to you know Stewie, 961 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 5: you know, dressing up and stuff, like that, or or 962 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 5: but you turn around and you go not about them niggas. 963 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 3: What, Yeah, I don't even think like I think that 964 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 3: a lot of times. It's like I said, it's it's 965 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 3: like people's frustration with liberal racism. 966 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 2: What happens all the time where white people are. 967 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 3: You know, kind of running at the head of a 968 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 3: lot of liberal things. And so there's this assumption like, well, 969 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 3: I vote for Obama, I vote Democrat. You know, I'm 970 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,480 Speaker 3: not you know, we're not nearly as fucked up as 971 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,240 Speaker 3: a Republican, so therefore we don't have any issues with race. 972 00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 3: And then there's always gonna be a pushback because it's like, well, 973 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 3: there's a little shit that you do that you know 974 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 3: might be construed as racist, and we still want to 975 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 3: have a discussion. Taynahese Coachs and that Chase dude are 976 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 3: going back and forth right now. It's kind of basically 977 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 3: the same issue, like, hey, I think this is kind 978 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 3: of racist. 979 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 2: No it's not. 980 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 3: It's like, so, you know, there can be some of that, 981 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 3: you know, but I just think that this might just 982 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 3: be a this is too much moment and we're gonna fight. 983 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 2: And I just feel like, as a minority. 984 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 3: I can at least relate to some of this, And 985 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 3: it's like, to me, this is the kind of stuff 986 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 3: that dilutes everything, where it's like choosing the wrong topic 987 00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 3: just to have something to talk about, you know. And 988 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 3: I talk about this all the time, where like some 989 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,839 Speaker 3: people are so much about causes that if they wake 990 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 3: up and there's really just nothing to be mad about, 991 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 3: they'll find something. 992 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 2: Someone's going to go down. 993 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 3: Something's gonna be taken out, because there can't be twenty 994 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:25,000 Speaker 3: four hours of just not anger or activism or outrage. 995 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I don't function like that, And I guess 996 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,320 Speaker 5: for me, is just one of those things to where 997 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:33,839 Speaker 5: like you say, this is their thing, this is what 998 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 5: they're doing. You also need to pick your battles. Like 999 00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,719 Speaker 5: I'm a big believer of picking battles. It is a 1000 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 5: time in their place to be outraged. There is a 1001 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,400 Speaker 5: time and a place to be angry. And you do 1002 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 5: have people that are on the front line that constantly 1003 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 5: fight these fights. More power to them because we need 1004 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 5: those people there. But for the average person, they're not 1005 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 5: gonna jump on every calls. They're not gonna run out 1006 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,600 Speaker 5: there and hold up signs and protest and do Twitter halftags, 1007 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,319 Speaker 5: but every minute thing that pops up, because it's like, 1008 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,840 Speaker 5: I don't have time for this. I got in life, 1009 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 5: I got kids, or whatever it may be. Call me, 1010 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 5: contact me when it's something big happening that I can support. 1011 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 5: Other than that, most people don't want to get involved, 1012 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 5: and I not completely understand. 1013 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,480 Speaker 3: And our conversation, Park admitted that despite the hashtags command, 1014 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 3: she did not want the COPT report to be canceled. 1015 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,800 Speaker 2: I liked the show, she said. 1016 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 3: Instead, she said she saw the hashtag as a way 1017 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 3: to critique white liberals who use forms of racial humor 1018 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,720 Speaker 3: to mock more blatant forms of racism. Well intentioned racial 1019 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,960 Speaker 3: humor doesn't actually do anything to end racism or the 1020 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 3: Redskins mascot. Park told me that sort of racial humor 1021 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 3: just makes people who hide under the tile of progressivism 1022 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 3: feel more comfortable. Now, there's two things about that. What 1023 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,320 Speaker 3: were we gonna say? 1024 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 4: First? 1025 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,839 Speaker 2: I was gonna say one. 1026 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 3: I think humor and well intentioned in racial humor actually 1027 00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 3: has done a lot in this country to to end 1028 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 3: racism and to have positive change. I think the I 1029 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 3: think a lot for a lot of people when things 1030 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:14,399 Speaker 3: became mockable and the joke was on them significant. 1031 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,200 Speaker 2: It was significantly. 1032 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 3: It significantly reduced the power of certain organizations. So it's 1033 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,920 Speaker 3: like when you can laugh at the KKK, it significantly 1034 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 3: reduces what they are. I'm not saying it's the only tool, 1035 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 3: but it's a tool and it does matter. 1036 00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 7: You know. 1037 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 3: It's almost like jay Z didn't have to when jay 1038 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:40,399 Speaker 3: Z mocked people for wearing throwback jerseys, men start wearing 1039 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:41,240 Speaker 3: button up shirts. 1040 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? It is you know, it does. 1041 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,520 Speaker 2: There is something about mocking. 1042 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 3: Certain aspects that does change things for good or bad. 1043 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 2: So I would not agree with her with that right. 1044 00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 2: The second thing is, I was really kind. 1045 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 3: Of blown by the fact that she's like, I like 1046 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 3: the show and I don't want to be canceled. She 1047 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 3: never clarified that people that were using the hashtag we're 1048 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 3: definitely talking about canceled the show. It definitely was incendiary 1049 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 3: to talk about it, you know that way. I wann't 1050 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 3: be surprised that she's on the Cobert Report in two weeks, 1051 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I won't be surprised that 1052 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 3: she's the interview after the break. The second break like 1053 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 3: cause cause to me it's kind of self aggrandizement. Like 1054 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 3: it's kind of once you mix self promotion in with 1055 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 3: this activism quote unquote, you kind of can leave it 1056 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 3: open for where people can just be like, oh, I 1057 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 3: just wanted to cause a firestorm. I don't really care 1058 00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,919 Speaker 3: where it went or what it was about after that. 1059 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 3: I just know I got more followers, I got a 1060 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 3: ton of tweets. The cob A Report is gonna interview me, 1061 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,279 Speaker 3: I'm gonna be on TV. I'm gonna be interviewed in 1062 00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:50,840 Speaker 3: New Yorker. 1063 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 2: I win. That's all that matters to me. 1064 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not gonna make any tweets like while 1065 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,839 Speaker 3: I'm demanding Stephen Colbert come out and say that it's 1066 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,560 Speaker 3: not okay to rape me, because the default is to 1067 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,240 Speaker 3: assume that he does think it's okay unless he says otherwise, 1068 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 3: which is weird even though he never tweeted that shit 1069 00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 3: okay or had anything to do with the tweet that 1070 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 3: started us. But okay, we can we can imply, we 1071 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 3: can apply that logic to him. But but I don't 1072 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 3: have to apply the logic of it my responsibility to 1073 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,200 Speaker 3: come out and go, hey, guys, I don't actually want 1074 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 3: this Uh, I don't actually want this uh to get canceled, 1075 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 3: and I actually like the show, so you know, I 1076 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,399 Speaker 3: you know, this is kind of tongue in cheap guys. 1077 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 3: It's this is my version of satire with no punchline 1078 00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 3: and no setup. 1079 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 2: You were gonna say something to know? 1080 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, fuck you, bitch. 1081 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 5: The biggest reason why is because you made a big 1082 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 5: ass or deal and you put a fucking hashtag that 1083 00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 5: said canceled the Corbet Show. How else was fucking people 1084 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 5: supposed to take the whole concept of this. You ran it, 1085 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,520 Speaker 5: and you raved. You went out here and you started 1086 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 5: a fire, and you didn't care what it went. 1087 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,799 Speaker 4: You didn't care who had to deal with the aftermath. 1088 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 4: You didn't care what kind of controversy you did. 1089 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 5: You did this just because there are too many people 1090 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 5: out here fighting a good fight, having good causes and 1091 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 5: actually believing that believing what they're doing is right, and 1092 00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,320 Speaker 5: they're not out here fucking around with people. 1093 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,920 Speaker 4: So I haven't I have a fucking issue with this? 1094 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, Now does two many people do this and you're 1095 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 5: wasting goddamn time. 1096 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 3: I would actually be very upset if I was one 1097 00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 3: of the people that was her quote unquote allies that 1098 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,359 Speaker 3: made all these defenses of her, and you know kind 1099 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 3: of like I would feel played honestly, yes, because she. 1100 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 2: It goes on again. To me, it's more damning what happens. 1101 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,320 Speaker 3: So it's important to note here that Suy Park identifies 1102 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 3: herself as an activist and does not make any claim 1103 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 3: of objectivity or fairness. Hash to have canceled Colbert might 1104 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 3: have rankled and annoying people who got Colbert's joke, but 1105 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 3: Park says the point of the movement quote unquote was 1106 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 3: to argue that white liberals who routinely condemn what she 1107 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 3: calls worst racism, will also turn a blind eye to, 1108 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 3: or even defend more tacit forms of prejudice, especially when 1109 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 3: they come from someone who shares the. 1110 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 2: Basic political beliefs. The response shows the totality of white privilege, 1111 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:17,960 Speaker 2: Park says. 1112 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,600 Speaker 3: They say, Suie is trying to take away a show 1113 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,040 Speaker 3: we enjoy, so we're gonna start a petition to take 1114 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 3: away her First Amendment rights and make rape threats. All 1115 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,879 Speaker 3: of this happens because they were worried that a show 1116 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 3: they enjoyed might be taken away. Now see that is 1117 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,440 Speaker 3: the part that freaks me out because I think, and 1118 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 3: like I was saying this on my Facebook page, I 1119 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 3: could every single day make a huge deal out of 1120 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 3: the fact that I get called nigger online by an 1121 00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,919 Speaker 3: egg at least once a day. Yeah, and I say 1122 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,760 Speaker 3: egg because it's normally somebody, even if they have a picture, 1123 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 3: they don't have a lot of followers, or is this 1124 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:54,959 Speaker 3: picture of his dog. 1125 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 2: But you know, at least. 1126 00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 3: Once a day I get called a nigger, I get 1127 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,399 Speaker 3: sent some kind of trolling link or something. I've been 1128 00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 3: threatened physically online and shit like that. I obviously don't 1129 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 3: think any of that's okay. But it's like if I 1130 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 3: was having a discussion and people it was centered around me, 1131 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,440 Speaker 3: and I wanted to have that discussion, and someone was like, 1132 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 3: I'll kill you, motherfucker. That really to me, if it 1133 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:30,200 Speaker 3: wasn't the overwhelming majority or even like a significant portion 1134 00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 3: of the people who were upset with me, I wouldn't 1135 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 3: jump to that because to me, the discussion doesn't happen there. 1136 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 3: That person needs to be reported to the police. That 1137 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 3: person needs to be blocked, you know what I mean, Like, 1138 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 3: that person needs to be tracked the fuck down. But 1139 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 3: I can't actually I don't want to have the discussion 1140 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 3: there because it derails my more important point, Like my 1141 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,319 Speaker 3: point isn't to I didn't start this and go, okay, 1142 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 3: now let's talk about how I got threatened. I started 1143 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 3: this so we could talk about this thing, you know 1144 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 3: what I mean. So the fact that she kind of 1145 00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 3: jumped to this threat thing and she never hopped off. 1146 00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,279 Speaker 3: She was like Colbert Report fans want to rape me. 1147 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,799 Speaker 3: It's like a lot of people like the Colbert Report 1148 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,439 Speaker 3: and they would just like to have a discussion. They're 1149 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 3: not gonna threaten you. And also we don't think that's cool. 1150 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 3: People are like I like Colbert, I'm against rape, I'm 1151 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 3: against murder. Look, can we naturally we talk about it. No, 1152 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 3: these people need to be stopped. It's these people. It's like, 1153 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 3: so there never was a discussion. And then when she 1154 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 3: says like basically, I cavalierly did this, I was I 1155 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,880 Speaker 3: didn't really care that much. It wasn't even my What 1156 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,959 Speaker 3: I meant by using this hashtag was some other thing 1157 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,280 Speaker 3: that I never brought up. It really makes it feel 1158 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,600 Speaker 3: like she said, oh shit, this this caught on, this 1159 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,240 Speaker 3: is actually trendon. Well, I don't really have anything to 1160 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,959 Speaker 3: say to actually back up my point. 1161 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna hop onto. Wow, these people are so mad, 1162 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 2: you know. 1163 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, and see to me for a lot of people 1164 00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,040 Speaker 5: out there, and the thing about it, you have so 1165 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 5: many people that have their causes, and there's nothing wrong 1166 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 5: with people having causes, and in fact, I support certain causes, 1167 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:07,720 Speaker 5: certain causes. 1168 00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,200 Speaker 4: I think this bullshit, you know, that's my personal opinion. 1169 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 5: But these people that are fighting these causes a lot 1170 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:17,760 Speaker 5: of times they can't get the non hardcore people to 1171 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 5: support them because some motherfuckers like her, right. You know, 1172 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 5: it's one of those things where you know, maybe a 1173 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 5: child gets killed or whatever it is, and they're trying 1174 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 5: to push or promote this stuff and people are like, oh, 1175 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 5: you're gonna be another motherfucker that's gonna turn around two 1176 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,040 Speaker 5: weeks later and say you was fucking kidding like like like, 1177 00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 5: and it's sad that. 1178 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 4: The thing is like your. 1179 00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 5: Whole thing is being an activist with hashtags and you 1180 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,840 Speaker 5: don't even And so to me, if I followed her 1181 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 5: and pushed her, I wouldn't even believe any fucking thing 1182 00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 5: else that came out of her mouth. It was like, oh, 1183 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 5: so you on here because Scander Woodnow on to night. 1184 00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 5: Oh so you on here because you missed the you 1185 00:58:58,880 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 5: missed the Walking Dead? 1186 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,000 Speaker 2: Do you even remember? 1187 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 3: Do you even want what we're trending and saying to 1188 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,000 Speaker 3: Is this even what you actually want? Or is this 1189 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 3: another Oh I'm just kind of bullshitting guys, I don't 1190 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 3: really mean it, Yes, because you're wasting people's time when 1191 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 3: there are people that have called real causes, trying to 1192 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 3: push real change, trying to have real stances, trying to 1193 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,600 Speaker 3: bring a lot of things to the forefront, to the 1194 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,600 Speaker 3: originally started promoting Native Americans cause, and which guys. 1195 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 2: Done, which got washed away? No one cares about that 1196 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 2: party anymore. 1197 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,440 Speaker 5: Right, which got washed away because you made the whole 1198 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 5: fucking thing about you, And a lot of people do 1199 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 5: this when it comes to this was the tragedy. 1200 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 4: But especially when tragedies come. I remember when when. 1201 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 5: The school shooting happened not to ago, about a year 1202 00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 5: or two ago, and it was sad and people were 1203 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,560 Speaker 5: tweeting about it, and next thing you know, people would 1204 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 5: come and making this whole event about bem AND's like, okay, 1205 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 5: children and are dying, and you just found a way 1206 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 5: to swoop past the real issue and make it about you, 1207 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 5: and I think for a lot of people that to me, 1208 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,800 Speaker 5: for a lot of people, it is a money grab 1209 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 5: because you can literally make money off of this, You 1210 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:13,920 Speaker 5: can build a brand off. 1211 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 4: Of this, and you don't really really really have to 1212 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 4: work that hard. 1213 01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 5: And I think for a lot of people they use 1214 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 5: this as as a way to get follow accounts for 1215 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 5: other things. I guarantee you she has a blog. I 1216 01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 5: guarantee you she has other platforms that she's using. And 1217 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 5: it's just one of those things where, like I say, 1218 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 5: as for a lot of people that try to be 1219 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,320 Speaker 5: very neutral to a lot of this stuff, it's go 1220 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 5: next time I see people tweeting like this is going, okay, 1221 01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 5: I'm not believing nobody no more. Why waste my time, 1222 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 5: because you're just wasting people's time. 1223 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 3: If we are to take parts explanation and good faith 1224 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 3: and see cancel Cobert as the work of a master 1225 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 3: provocateur who held up a mirrort to the way that 1226 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,000 Speaker 3: self identifying liberals of all racists respond criticism from people 1227 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 3: that they as soon to be allies, then it should 1228 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 3: be held as a rousing success. And interviews and on Twitter, 1229 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 3: Park has repeatedly pointed out that she does not subscribe 1230 01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:12,439 Speaker 3: to a traditional distinction between liberalism and conservatism. She does 1231 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 3: defer to white liberals who point out that the joke 1232 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,240 Speaker 3: was meant to satire white races. She does not defer, 1233 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,880 Speaker 3: and she does nor does she believe that her debt 1234 01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,560 Speaker 3: of gratitude is owed to the good intentions of white liberalism. 1235 01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 3: During our conversation, she mentioned Kanye West in the politics 1236 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 3: of trying to his public persona. Park suggests that she, 1237 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 3: like West, is playing the part and in the process 1238 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,120 Speaker 3: satirizing what we might expect from a twenty three year. 1239 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 2: Old hashtag activist. 1240 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 3: So now she like Kanye, everybody's favorite, small, humble ego guy. 1241 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:49,800 Speaker 3: She's comparing herself to him, and she's saying like, well, 1242 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm just playing a part. 1243 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 2: You know who else is just playing a part? 1244 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 3: Stephen Colbert doing it much better than Kanye and you 1245 01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 3: at this point for ten years, it's like, well, you know, 1246 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 3: let's ride his coattails. Like this reminds me of when 1247 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 3: people this jay Z enough, people go who are you again? 1248 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 3: Because jay Z's not gonna respond. But it's like, if 1249 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 3: I say jay Z's name, you'll listen to me for 1250 01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:13,120 Speaker 3: a while. 1251 01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 5: In the same way they do Kim Kardashian and the 1252 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 5: same that the way they do Beyonce, in the same 1253 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 5: way they do whatever the hot thing is at the time. 1254 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 5: Instead of building their own content and making their own thing, 1255 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 5: you're gonna ride off of something else because that will 1256 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 5: bring attention in your way. 1257 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is actually the point where I was 1258 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 3: reading this like, cause I still was kind of giving 1259 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 3: a benefit of a doubt, and then I read this 1260 01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 3: sentence and I really was like, yeah, I'm done. 1261 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 2: I can't. She says, there's no reason for me to 1262 01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,959 Speaker 2: act reasonable because I won't be taken seriously anyway. She said, 1263 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,360 Speaker 2: so I might as well perform crazy to point out 1264 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:51,880 Speaker 2: exactly what's expected from me. 1265 01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,840 Speaker 5: See, that's that's what I told see from the beginning, 1266 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 5: I told you that being reasonable does not matter. That 1267 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 5: that like, that's say people having She didn't want to 1268 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 5: have a conversation. 1269 01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:04,439 Speaker 4: That's the thing. 1270 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 5: When people come on and they do not want to 1271 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 5: have conversations, they dismiss anybody reasonable. 1272 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 4: They make you sound like you're a lunatic. 1273 01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 5: Because at the end of the day, it's about retweets, 1274 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 5: it's about down loads, it's about going to my block, 1275 01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 5: it's about going to my tumbler, it's about checking out 1276 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:27,240 Speaker 5: my Facebook, it's about my next promotion. For a lot 1277 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,040 Speaker 5: of people, that's what it's all about, and they don't 1278 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 5: give a fuck about anything else. And at the end 1279 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 5: of the day, I can't rock with that because to me, 1280 01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:41,440 Speaker 5: that's idiotic and it's dumb, and it's just one of 1281 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 5: those things where it goes back to what we were 1282 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 5: talking about before, how a lot of people get a 1283 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 5: high off of going out and just arguing with people 1284 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 5: for the sake of arguing, not being reasonable and not 1285 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 5: being rational. Why because that doesn't get anybody looking your way. 1286 01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feel bad for all the people who 1287 01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:06,080 Speaker 3: like dedicated so much time to this cause, who like 1288 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 3: broke up friendships still arguing with people this day, did 1289 01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 3: the whole don't explain to me what satire is. 1290 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:15,960 Speaker 2: And I do have a. 1291 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 3: Sense of human like went through all that shit, and 1292 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,160 Speaker 3: then the person who starts it is basically like, yeah, 1293 01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 3: I didn't really give a fuck, and I know that 1294 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 3: my shit didn't really make sense and my answers weren't 1295 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 3: being reasonable, but hey, if you don't expect me to 1296 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 3: be reasonable. 1297 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 2: Why would I act reasonable? 1298 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 5: Haha? 1299 01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 3: Haaha, get it, guys, Like no, I don't get it, 1300 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 3: and I think it's kind of fucked up, you know 1301 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 3: what I mean. And I don't see why, Like, don't 1302 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 3: fussing me for not taking the next fucking thing that 1303 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 3: people do seriously, because you know, I feel like, because 1304 01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,320 Speaker 3: this is the other thing, I still see people who 1305 01:04:56,320 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 3: are defending this shit as you know, somehow. 1306 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 2: With somehow being valid, and it's like it's like if 1307 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 2: the person who started comes out and goes, I was 1308 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 2: just fucking around, I'm inclined to just go okay, then yeah, 1309 01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,440 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I obviously couldn't pick 1310 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 2: up on it. 1311 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 5: It. 1312 01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 3: You know, the people I saw who were even on 1313 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 3: your side didn't seem to be in on the joke, 1314 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 3: like there wasn't this oh none, No, no, guys, we 1315 01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,640 Speaker 3: all know that we were just fucking around like that 1316 01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 3: just doesn't seem to be that. 1317 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 5: So no, and not at any time that you inform 1318 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,360 Speaker 5: or say that, hey guys, it's the joke. Hey I'm 1319 01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 5: just kidding adult Take me seriously, There was none of 1320 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 5: this at any period of time and anything you were saying, 1321 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 5: And that's why, at the end of the day, I'm 1322 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 5: still gonna fuck you, bitch. I'm gonna stay right there 1323 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,880 Speaker 5: until she pushed me otherwise. And your age is not 1324 01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 5: an excuse for being dumb. 1325 01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just a really fucked up thing to do 1326 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,800 Speaker 3: to people, Yes, because because like people cared, you know 1327 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 3: what I mean. 1328 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 2: Actually, I would have preferred her. 1329 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 3: To be legitimately pissed off and like not get the 1330 01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,080 Speaker 3: joke or not care or go I don't give a fuck. 1331 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,439 Speaker 2: I do want this asshole taking off the air. 1332 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 3: I would have almost preferred that because I could go, Okay, 1333 01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:25,000 Speaker 3: there's some integrity to this. Yes, but like this is 1334 01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,560 Speaker 3: kind of to me like the worst of the hashtag 1335 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,080 Speaker 3: activism type thing. It's the worst of the Internet when 1336 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,800 Speaker 3: someone goes, I don't really mean this, because I've seen 1337 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 3: too many people fighting for us and argue and go 1338 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 3: through all this shit and start campaigns and actually get 1339 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,919 Speaker 3: things accomplished from shit that they actually did mean. Yes, 1340 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 3: you know, so it's like fuck those people too, because 1341 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,200 Speaker 3: apparently we can just Willy Niel this out. And you 1342 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 3: knew that this will be a possibility at some point, 1343 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:57,920 Speaker 3: because people were going to see the ironically black women 1344 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,919 Speaker 3: who black feminists who started these movements rose to some 1345 01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 3: level of prominence on the internet, on Twitter, some even 1346 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 3: got jobs writing and things of this nature. 1347 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,280 Speaker 2: You knew people were going to see that and then go, 1348 01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,919 Speaker 2: I want some of that. What are the steps? Oh, 1349 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 2: here's one of the steps. I'm just whatever you can 1350 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 2: get the trend. 1351 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:22,880 Speaker 5: And the fucked up part about that, a lot of 1352 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 5: these women that are doing this, they believe it. 1353 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:29,200 Speaker 4: They're not fucking with people, like when they do these hashtags, 1354 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 4: this is real to them. 1355 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 5: When they say these things, They're not doing it just 1356 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,480 Speaker 5: because they had they couldn't fucking paint their toes on 1357 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 5: a fucking Saturday. They're like, hey, I believe this. I'm 1358 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 5: standing by this. Come on, guys, support me. Let's get 1359 01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 5: this trending. They're not doing it because just fucking because. 1360 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 2: They're bored, right, And and the thing is like. 1361 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,120 Speaker 3: The other writer of this article says like, look, I'm 1362 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 3: ten years older than her. I'm a you know, fan 1363 01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 3: of Cobet Report. I saw the other thing. I wasn't 1364 01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:04,240 Speaker 3: a fan, but I do have to give her, you know, 1365 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 3: even though I initially thought she was just you know, 1366 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:11,000 Speaker 3: self agrandize and being disingenuous, trying to blow up a 1367 01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 3: joke into a national issue. She said, you know, I 1368 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:17,400 Speaker 3: do agree with her sentiment that as agent Americans, you know, 1369 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 3: we're called to play a role in America that you know, 1370 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 3: it's somewhat bullshit, and you know, I don't. 1371 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:25,599 Speaker 2: I don't appreciate it. 1372 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,640 Speaker 3: And that's the thing is, like I agree there was 1373 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 3: merit to be found here, but then it's like when 1374 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:37,799 Speaker 3: you exaggerate the point for the point of just having 1375 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 3: the solationious like the fight, having the having the outrage 1376 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,000 Speaker 3: and the popularity and the trending and the get your 1377 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,040 Speaker 3: name out there, once you combine it with that, it's 1378 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 3: it's almost like it makes it worse for me because 1379 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,760 Speaker 3: like you had a point and that you lost it, 1380 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,400 Speaker 3: or you had a point and you could have waited 1381 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 3: for a much better, like a better example to point 1382 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,600 Speaker 3: out and be like, bam, look at this, but you 1383 01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:07,680 Speaker 3: kind of stretched it. 1384 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,320 Speaker 2: You had all these people fighting, all these people bringing. 1385 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 3: Up and then it's kind of like, oh yeah, wait 1386 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 3: a minute, you don't even believe this shit. 1387 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:19,679 Speaker 2: So why did I just block my my friend again? 1388 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:22,639 Speaker 2: Why did I just I con mute this motherfucker? Oh 1389 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,000 Speaker 2: cause you don't even fuck with it? All right? 1390 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,840 Speaker 3: So she says like Park, I've seen how quickly a 1391 01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 3: presumed collegiality can turn into mocking, almost threatening tone whenever 1392 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,080 Speaker 3: I stray from the assumed consensus that we all hate 1393 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,680 Speaker 3: the worst racist fox news and gun nuts gun nuts 1394 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,600 Speaker 3: like Park. I have always assumed, again failure or not, 1395 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,599 Speaker 3: that white liberals believe that as a person of color, 1396 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,800 Speaker 3: I owe a debt of gratitude to the generations of 1397 01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 3: well intentioned white people who have fought hard for my 1398 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,639 Speaker 3: right to write for prestigious publications. I do not know 1399 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,760 Speaker 3: if I believe that Park set out to incite this 1400 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 3: particular ride when she first tweeted hashtag cancel gobear. But 1401 01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,120 Speaker 3: I also do not believe that any activist really owes 1402 01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 3: an explanation for the mess she leaves in her wake, 1403 01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,280 Speaker 3: which is weird because I think you do. 1404 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 2: But that's that's just a lone hour. I have to 1405 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 2: disagree with this person, don't like me too. 1406 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:15,280 Speaker 5: You can't go out there, start a fire and have 1407 01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 5: this issue to be like, all right, I'm. 1408 01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:20,759 Speaker 2: Out, yeah, or I shouldn't say. I would say. 1409 01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,719 Speaker 3: That's what separates people that I believe in from people 1410 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,639 Speaker 3: I don't. The people who would go this is why 1411 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:29,599 Speaker 3: I did it, and this is the fallout from it, 1412 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,640 Speaker 3: and this is what I gained from it, and this, 1413 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 3: you know whatever, that person I'm like. 1414 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,320 Speaker 2: Cool, the person that's the person that's just like, oh, 1415 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 2: I don't have to be reasonable or whatever. 1416 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,800 Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, well, then I don't have to subscribe 1417 01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 3: to believing you're a good person. 1418 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:42,679 Speaker 6: Nope. 1419 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,920 Speaker 3: Over the past two days, much of the debate about 1420 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 3: the cancer cobar has been about advocacy of hashtag activism 1421 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 3: and whether the act of descent has been cheapened by 1422 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,920 Speaker 3: the ease and sometimes priviolity of Twitter protests. As a 1423 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,160 Speaker 3: debate intensified, I too thought that we had reached a 1424 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:58,759 Speaker 3: point where hashtag activism had circled back on to itself, 1425 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 3: a moment whether ernestiness of a conversation like not your 1426 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:05,960 Speaker 3: Asian side chick sidekick had had been compromised by self 1427 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,520 Speaker 3: promotion and race hustling. But journalists and plunders are particularly 1428 01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:11,960 Speaker 3: sensitive to charge the self promotion and hustling because we 1429 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,360 Speaker 3: so often on Twitter use it to self promote and hustle. 1430 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 3: Unlike Park, we usually do this without any particular ideology motivation. 1431 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:24,000 Speaker 3: Ideological ideological motivation, and if we are honest with ourselves. 1432 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:25,640 Speaker 3: I think we can admit that one reason we may 1433 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 3: find Twitter activism distasteful is because it interrupts our online 1434 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:33,320 Speaker 3: socializing with questions we might not want to answer, or 1435 01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,400 Speaker 3: you know, even worse questions that you do want to answer, 1436 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:43,480 Speaker 3: and instead your group deal with rapist and murderers. Yes, 1437 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:45,040 Speaker 3: and got shu'all do want that a discussion? 1438 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 2: Well, why don't you tell people to stop raping me? 1439 01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 2: It's like what. 1440 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 3: Kensel Cobert may have seen may have been dumb, silly 1441 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:54,400 Speaker 3: and dumb and wrong in spirit, but it's worth asking 1442 01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,599 Speaker 3: if those of us who find it distasteful know as 1443 01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,840 Speaker 3: much about the intentions of the hashtag activists who. 1444 01:11:58,760 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 2: Think we do well. 1445 01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,400 Speaker 3: Obviously we don't, because even those who fought on her 1446 01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:05,719 Speaker 3: side didn't know that she didn't really want to show 1447 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:08,720 Speaker 3: cancel or it wasn't a big deal, or that you 1448 01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,719 Speaker 3: know what I mean, like they thought it was serious. 1449 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 3: If we take hashtag cancel cobat face value, we can 1450 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,280 Speaker 3: easily dismiss it the shrill, misguided, and frivolous. 1451 01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:17,200 Speaker 2: But after speaking the. 1452 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 3: Park about what she helped accomplish with all this a 1453 01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 3: paternalistic question if Theravia was one. I wonder if we 1454 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,680 Speaker 3: might be witnessing the development of it more compelling and 1455 01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,599 Speaker 3: sometimes annoying and infuriating form protests by a new group 1456 01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 3: of Mary pranksters who are once again freaking out the 1457 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:35,200 Speaker 3: squares and are always overreact, always polarized or online spear 1458 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:37,360 Speaker 3: Jay caskiy and Kang. 1459 01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,880 Speaker 2: Is the author of the novel The Dead did not approve. 1460 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,360 Speaker 2: So yeah, I enjoyed the write up. I'm glad he 1461 01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 2: interviewed her to get her reasons. 1462 01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 3: It's kind of sad because I feel like a lot 1463 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 3: of people wait for these publications to reach out to them, 1464 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:57,519 Speaker 3: interview them, and they want more control over the stories 1465 01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:58,720 Speaker 3: that are being told about them. 1466 01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,599 Speaker 2: I think that was a huge thing with the the 1467 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:02,799 Speaker 2: what were you Wearing? 1468 01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:07,280 Speaker 3: Campaign when you were sexually assaulted and then you just 1469 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,600 Speaker 3: it's just inevitable. Man, Someone's gonna be opportunistic about the 1470 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 3: ship and go fuck it. This is you know, this 1471 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 3: is just something that will pass a Thursday and possibly, 1472 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,599 Speaker 3: you know, get me interviewed or something like that. So 1473 01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 3: and like I said, man, I noticed that I posted 1474 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:27,960 Speaker 3: a link to the article. 1475 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:28,800 Speaker 2: People were discussing that. 1476 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 3: I don't think people really read the article because it's 1477 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:32,760 Speaker 3: kind of long. I just read it on the show. 1478 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,760 Speaker 2: It's very long most people time, but I wanted to 1479 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,719 Speaker 2: read it for everybody, so you know what the fuck 1480 01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,400 Speaker 2: I'm talking about when I'm like, yeah, I'm not a 1481 01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:42,160 Speaker 2: fan of hers. 1482 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 3: I don't think she should be anything should happen to her. 1483 01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,559 Speaker 3: I don't think she should be threatened. But I also 1484 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:49,720 Speaker 3: don't want to support anything. 1485 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,519 Speaker 5: She does because nothing else that that friviality is just 1486 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:58,400 Speaker 5: not something I'm cool with mixing with real people's lives 1487 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,680 Speaker 5: with issues, And the thing about it is that I 1488 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,960 Speaker 5: would be angry if I was was of Asian of 1489 01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,360 Speaker 5: Asian descent. It actually was like yeah, and supported her 1490 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:11,559 Speaker 5: and rolled with her for her. 1491 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,040 Speaker 4: To go you know what, guys, I was joking. It 1492 01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 4: was like, but I. 1493 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,919 Speaker 2: Wasn't right or Native American. 1494 01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,880 Speaker 3: Even I have my cars basically shoved to the back 1495 01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:23,360 Speaker 3: burner because of this, Like you know, like now. 1496 01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,719 Speaker 5: They're not even talking about us anymore because this bitch 1497 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 5: came along with her nonsense. 1498 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:33,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like, uh yeah, it's this is ridiculous. Speaking 1499 01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:39,519 Speaker 3: of which, apparently Avenue Magazine apologized to an RNC staffer 1500 01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,920 Speaker 3: for tweets of an editor this is a big deal. 1501 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 3: Also a Twitter thing. It's funny how much news is 1502 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 3: generated from Twitter. I'm telling you, at some point, I'm 1503 01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:53,439 Speaker 3: not joking. These these publications are going to realize they 1504 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:54,600 Speaker 3: should not allow. 1505 01:14:54,320 --> 01:14:57,479 Speaker 2: These people to have Twitter. Yeah, it's really not good. 1506 01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 2: Like it's not because people one, you get the feeling 1507 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 2: yourself a little too much, because you get followers and 1508 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,439 Speaker 2: all this ship and loment. It's people that agree with 1509 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:04,720 Speaker 2: you and. 1510 01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,760 Speaker 5: Stuff and I'm a staffer or somebody do it with 1511 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:08,839 Speaker 5: that person's not with like the main person. 1512 01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,360 Speaker 2: Well no, not even Stafford. That's what happened with Colbert. 1513 01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,639 Speaker 3: Some intern tweeted some stupid ship and now Colbert's got 1514 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:16,880 Speaker 3: a fucking problem. 1515 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 2: He's probably gotta apologize to that or something. Who knows, But. 1516 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,280 Speaker 4: So so be like, you know what you could do Facebook? 1517 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,720 Speaker 2: There's nothing. There's nothing good that comes to this. Think 1518 01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 2: about it. 1519 01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,040 Speaker 3: Most of the time when you see at some big corporation, 1520 01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,280 Speaker 3: it's something fucked up at USPS, why is my male 1521 01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:34,000 Speaker 3: and not here yet? 1522 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,479 Speaker 2: At fed Ahead. I've done that before a lot of 1523 01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 2: people have. 1524 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:43,360 Speaker 3: At the United Airline, my my plane ticket was fucked up. Yeah, 1525 01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 3: there's not a ton of wow time winner cable? What's 1526 01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:48,360 Speaker 3: lovely today. 1527 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,759 Speaker 4: That Utah won a cable? Why am I cable working? 1528 01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,280 Speaker 3: And on top of that, you have the people that 1529 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:59,479 Speaker 3: are like, you know, uh this who wrote this article? 1530 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 2: Who wrote this article? I don't agree with this article? 1531 01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,240 Speaker 2: Who wrote this article? You go find the person online 1532 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:08,200 Speaker 2: on Facebook or I mean on Twitter. You get a hashtag, 1533 01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,080 Speaker 2: you start trending, you contact their boss. Like, not a 1534 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 2: lot of good comes up. 1535 01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,720 Speaker 3: Not to mention the other part, you get people that 1536 01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,559 Speaker 3: play people to the left because it's one hundred and 1537 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,840 Speaker 3: forty characters. It's very you don't have time, you're getting 1538 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,360 Speaker 3: bombarded with tweets. A lot of times people can be 1539 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:30,880 Speaker 3: passive aggressive. Sometimes you're not patient, you don't want to 1540 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 3: deal with everybody. 1541 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,520 Speaker 2: You're not You're a human being, and shit happens. 1542 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,799 Speaker 3: And this is a case of that, in my opinion, 1543 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,640 Speaker 3: of somebody being like ah fuck, you know, like like 1544 01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:43,599 Speaker 3: you just kind of dismissed somebody. Then you find out 1545 01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 3: later like ah shit, this person's an asshole and they're 1546 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 3: gonna make a thing of it. News organizations hate to 1547 01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 3: say sorry. They're staffed, after all, by people who spend 1548 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,240 Speaker 3: their days telling other people what to think. And if 1549 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 3: they're not right all the time, then why do they 1550 01:16:57,040 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 3: have their jobs. That's why apologies tend to come only 1551 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,680 Speaker 3: under press. Sure, as Ebony Magazine Today demonstrated, the magazine's 1552 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:05,400 Speaker 3: may and cope went out to Raffie Williams, the deputy 1553 01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,479 Speaker 3: Press secretary for the Republican National Convention, as well as 1554 01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:12,240 Speaker 3: the black Republican community. Just what could have triggered such 1555 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,120 Speaker 3: a statement of regret. Uh, you can find an outline 1556 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:17,479 Speaker 3: right here. Okay, Well, I guess we'll go to this. 1557 01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 2: I guess I go to this link. 1558 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 3: Apparently Jamila Lemieux. I believe that's how you pronounce it. 1559 01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,760 Speaker 3: If not, I apologize to Jamila. Please don't try to 1560 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 3: get me fired. 1561 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 2: But she was. She's a senior editor at Avenue dot com. 1562 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,439 Speaker 3: She is to The tweet noting that black conservatives being 1563 01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:41,880 Speaker 3: Carson at Armstrong Williams were launching a new magazine, was 1564 01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,240 Speaker 3: somewhere applied that they were interested in more information, Leamoeux 1565 01:17:45,479 --> 01:17:47,559 Speaker 3: Lemieux expressed as an. 1566 01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:48,920 Speaker 2: Interest in less information. 1567 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,559 Speaker 3: Very funny, you know, I think I'm sure maybe people 1568 01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:54,400 Speaker 3: retweeting a laugh. 1569 01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:57,840 Speaker 2: Uh so. 1570 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:00,840 Speaker 5: Uh. 1571 01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:04,200 Speaker 3: The comment prompted Williams to get into a discussion. She 1572 01:18:04,680 --> 01:18:08,720 Speaker 3: tweeted several people and said, I one do not want 1573 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 3: to know more. I wish I knew less. Raffie Williams says, 1574 01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 3: uh at Jamiller Lem, you wish you knew less. Hoped 1575 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,120 Speaker 3: you would encourage diversity of thought and included the other 1576 01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 3: people that were in this discussion. She came back and said, uh, 1577 01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,200 Speaker 3: oh great, here comes a white dude telling me how 1578 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:31,280 Speaker 3: to do this black thing pass. The problem is that 1579 01:18:31,479 --> 01:18:33,360 Speaker 3: Williams is not white, He's black. 1580 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,160 Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, Abby's a fool because I got a white 1581 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 5: dude that's my Abby. 1582 01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:38,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1583 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,040 Speaker 3: And also there's some black people that hey, I guess 1584 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:44,320 Speaker 3: you guys have noticed you can look white and be black, 1585 01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:46,759 Speaker 3: you look black and be white, you can. 1586 01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1587 01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,519 Speaker 3: Like, uh, Jail Covan is always making jokes about how 1588 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:53,040 Speaker 3: he looked. He get people will assume he's Italian, say 1589 01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 3: some racis shit around me and like, oh wait, you're 1590 01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:58,479 Speaker 3: half black. Sorry, So I get it. It's it is 1591 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,599 Speaker 3: to me not a big deal. It happens on Twitter. 1592 01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:05,840 Speaker 3: But when people are trucking in the gotcha thing where 1593 01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,519 Speaker 3: I'm gonna call your racist now take you down. I 1594 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:12,400 Speaker 3: was looking at your ave without blowing it up. I 1595 01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,120 Speaker 3: apologize for that. However, I care about nothing you have 1596 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:19,360 Speaker 3: to say. I forgot that tweeting something about conservatives is 1597 01:19:19,400 --> 01:19:21,479 Speaker 3: like leaving a cookie out in a house full of roaches. 1598 01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:25,080 Speaker 2: It turned off the lights. R and C chairman Rints 1599 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 2: Previous wasn't gonna let such nastiness go on nasten, so 1600 01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:30,680 Speaker 2: he shipped off a letter to Ebony which includes these 1601 01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 2: three paragraphs, attacking someone for his or her race, heritage 1602 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:36,080 Speaker 2: of political views, the very thing Ebony has worked to discourage, 1603 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,000 Speaker 2: and actions like those of miss Lemue are far below 1604 01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,599 Speaker 2: the basic standards of journalism. She did not even attempt 1605 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,080 Speaker 2: to show journalistic objectivity. 1606 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 3: And I'm sure you'll agree with me that it's unacceptable 1607 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,639 Speaker 3: to refront of those who disagree with you as roaches. 1608 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:56,479 Speaker 3: Which the amount of irony of that coming from Rints Previous, 1609 01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,720 Speaker 3: his mouth, or just anyone affiliated with the rn C 1610 01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,920 Speaker 3: in general, and the language they use when referring to 1611 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:06,720 Speaker 3: people who disagree with them, it's insane. But okay, you know, 1612 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 3: this is one of those cases where you get caught 1613 01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:13,599 Speaker 3: with a small infraction and then motherfuckers because it's the Internet, 1614 01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:15,400 Speaker 3: And like I said, same thing with this cancel co 1615 01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:18,160 Speaker 3: bear shit. Now they want to go too far? How 1616 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 3: can we get her to lose a job? I want 1617 01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,479 Speaker 3: her to apologize in person. I won't see some tears. 1618 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:26,720 Speaker 2: Like nobody can just go my bad and go it's 1619 01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:27,760 Speaker 2: cool and move on. 1620 01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 3: I've done that several times just this week. I'm not joking, 1621 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. I had people say shit 1622 01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,280 Speaker 3: to me while I was like, that is so fucked up. 1623 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,840 Speaker 3: Or you know when people do that thing where they 1624 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 3: quote you and then they act the person, you know, 1625 01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 3: to almost start some shit and like. 1626 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:45,599 Speaker 4: That is student. 1627 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:47,439 Speaker 2: Don't do that. I didn't do that to you. 1628 01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 3: If I wanted to talk to them, I would have 1629 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,360 Speaker 3: put him in there. And now you're trying to start something. 1630 01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,080 Speaker 3: And I still, even with those kind of people, I go, 1631 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,160 Speaker 3: it's cool. I get it, you fucked up, but you 1632 01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,639 Speaker 3: you're apologetic, and I'm it's honest, want to move. 1633 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,040 Speaker 2: On to because it just not it's not in my 1634 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:03,920 Speaker 2: I'm just not. 1635 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 3: One of those Oh I was right, you apologize now 1636 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,519 Speaker 3: to make you think about that FORELVERA yeah. 1637 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 5: And it's one of those things where if I want 1638 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,040 Speaker 5: that person to know, I would at them directly a 1639 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:17,599 Speaker 5: lot of people have conversations about people all the time, 1640 01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,000 Speaker 5: and they don't at them because it's not important that 1641 01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:20,960 Speaker 5: that person knows. 1642 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:21,120 Speaker 6: Well. 1643 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to get into all that. 1644 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,840 Speaker 3: That was just an example to what I was talking about, 1645 01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:27,880 Speaker 3: all right, So Ravin deserves an apology for miss Lemieux 1646 01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,720 Speaker 3: and from Ebany, not just because not just for making 1647 01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 3: assumptions about his race, but more importantly for dismissing Black 1648 01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,760 Speaker 3: Republicans in the validity of their opinions in public discourse. Now, 1649 01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:42,200 Speaker 3: she never said black Republicans necessarily, she never said anything 1650 01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:43,519 Speaker 3: negative about his race. 1651 01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,920 Speaker 2: But this is one of those where you factually fucked up. 1652 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:49,040 Speaker 3: We got you on this, so we're just gonna drive 1653 01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,960 Speaker 3: it into something bigger than it was, you know what 1654 01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:55,920 Speaker 3: I mean. She personally said she didn't care what he 1655 01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:58,920 Speaker 3: had to fucking say about it, you know what I mean. 1656 01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:03,040 Speaker 3: So sad now of people that don't believe in identity 1657 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 3: politics do believe in identity politics because she's talking about 1658 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,439 Speaker 3: all the black Republicans in. 1659 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,040 Speaker 2: Their Twitter exchange, missile Muse. 1660 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,640 Speaker 3: Said she had no interest in the conversation about a 1661 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:14,280 Speaker 3: courage and diversity of thought. I'm hopeful, however, that she 1662 01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,240 Speaker 3: does not speak for the entire magazine that we can 1663 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,839 Speaker 3: use this unfortunate episode as a catalyst for greater engagement 1664 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,720 Speaker 3: and understanding between the Republican Party and the Black community. 1665 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:25,840 Speaker 2: Of course she doesn't, right, which happens all the time. 1666 01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:27,320 Speaker 3: There's tons of people I don't give a fuck about 1667 01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:28,759 Speaker 3: on Twitter and I don't want to know their thoughts. 1668 01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,920 Speaker 3: I also don't work for Ebony, so nobody's gonna write 1669 01:22:32,000 --> 01:22:35,840 Speaker 3: anybody to make me have to consider that bullshit with 1670 01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:39,040 Speaker 3: you know, twisting the whole conversation in line and shit. 1671 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,000 Speaker 2: But you know this person did. 1672 01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:45,280 Speaker 3: Abny responded with the appropriate shame every acknowledged senior editor 1673 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,000 Speaker 3: of Jamila Lemuse lack of judgment on her personal Twitter 1674 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,879 Speaker 3: account and apologizes to Raffi Williams and the Black Republican community. 1675 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:57,000 Speaker 3: The Eric wilble Wimble blog blog whatever fode a list 1676 01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 3: of offenses from merely lack of judgment to downright unpleasantness, 1677 01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:03,559 Speaker 3: closed mindedness, and the trigger finger for racial front It's. 1678 01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 2: Tipped in the site media a media winning streak with 1679 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:08,760 Speaker 2: the RNC stretching back to last summer. 1680 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,160 Speaker 3: We're previous objected to a specials of Hillary Rodham, Clinton 1681 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:14,639 Speaker 3: and the words for in the works for CNN Film 1682 01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:15,719 Speaker 3: and NBC Entertainment. 1683 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:17,920 Speaker 2: The networks ended up bailing on those projects. 1684 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,720 Speaker 3: Earlier this year, MSNBC issued to tweet declaring the right 1685 01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,000 Speaker 3: wing will hate a Cheerios ad featuring a biracial family, 1686 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,760 Speaker 3: Even though the tweet didn't single out R and C 1687 01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:29,360 Speaker 3: previously managed to lobby himself in to an official apology 1688 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,400 Speaker 3: from MSNBC president Phil Griffith. 1689 01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:32,840 Speaker 4: This sounds like this is his ding. 1690 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:34,360 Speaker 2: Like I mean, if you. 1691 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:38,360 Speaker 3: Catch people slipping, and you know, liberals are more prone 1692 01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,200 Speaker 3: to have morals and apologize and I stick to their 1693 01:23:41,240 --> 01:23:44,559 Speaker 3: guns or double down, you're gonna get apologies. 1694 01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,120 Speaker 4: Yeah you are. Yeah yeah. 1695 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,559 Speaker 5: Republics like fuck you move on to the next topic. 1696 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,840 Speaker 5: You ain't gonn get the apology too quick. Nobody's gonna dumble, 1697 01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:57,600 Speaker 5: you know. Like it's it's just different. And to me, 1698 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,720 Speaker 5: it's okay to apologize, but it's one of the things 1699 01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:02,840 Speaker 5: where that needs to be it. 1700 01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:04,760 Speaker 4: But for a lot of these people that's not enough. 1701 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:05,800 Speaker 4: And that's the issue I have. 1702 01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,599 Speaker 5: It's like, what do you want them to do to 1703 01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:09,599 Speaker 5: draw their own blood? 1704 01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:11,920 Speaker 4: And before you're satisfied. 1705 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:16,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it it's you know, It's also the 1706 01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,960 Speaker 3: fact that you know, these these once they feel like 1707 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:25,360 Speaker 3: they have a leg to stand on, you're very rarely 1708 01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:30,559 Speaker 3: gonna get people that will go, you know what, I 1709 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:34,400 Speaker 3: should not abuse the position like That's why I think 1710 01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:40,880 Speaker 3: all apologies should be selfish, you know, they they should be. 1711 01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:48,400 Speaker 3: It should be for the person who committed the offense, 1712 01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:54,640 Speaker 3: you know, more than anything else, because it's it. You 1713 01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,959 Speaker 3: can't control how the person who claimed to be offended. 1714 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:05,720 Speaker 2: Really you can't. You can't really control how they take it, 1715 01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like he could he could 1716 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,880 Speaker 2: just go, you know, even with her apology could be 1717 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:12,920 Speaker 2: like fuck you, I don't care. 1718 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:19,559 Speaker 3: So and he went on the air, and I might 1719 01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:21,280 Speaker 3: be able to find a clipping plan, I don't know. 1720 01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:25,280 Speaker 3: But he went on the air and on Fox News 1721 01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,559 Speaker 3: they talked about it, and it was just so like 1722 01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:33,439 Speaker 3: miss leading, where they you know, they were claiming she 1723 01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:36,720 Speaker 3: you know, it was much more of a fight than 1724 01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:39,639 Speaker 3: it actually was. She was nasty than she really was, 1725 01:25:39,800 --> 01:25:42,679 Speaker 3: and taking everything out of context just to make everything 1726 01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,720 Speaker 3: the worst possible. 1727 01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,200 Speaker 2: Of course, of course. 1728 01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:52,080 Speaker 4: Why not, why not? You know, you don't get an apology. 1729 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,320 Speaker 2: Right, so, you know, I'm trying to get this thing 1730 01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,400 Speaker 2: to work. By the way, this is a dumb. 1731 01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,479 Speaker 3: But but you know, it was just one of those 1732 01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:02,639 Speaker 3: things where it's like we're going to try our best 1733 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,000 Speaker 3: to get you to, you know, admit to some type 1734 01:26:05,040 --> 01:26:09,040 Speaker 3: of wrongdoing and then get you to apologize, and once 1735 01:26:09,040 --> 01:26:11,400 Speaker 3: we get you on the back on your back pedaling 1736 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,439 Speaker 3: like that, then we kind of feel like we won. 1737 01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,640 Speaker 3: And that's what's more important to the people involved in 1738 01:26:17,680 --> 01:26:18,120 Speaker 3: a lot of this. 1739 01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:22,040 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the fuckery is the winning 1740 01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:22,719 Speaker 2: of it, not. 1741 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,920 Speaker 4: The your point, my point, your point, my point. 1742 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,439 Speaker 5: They're not really giving the fuck about the people that 1743 01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,480 Speaker 5: are involved, They're not really giving the fuck about the backlash, 1744 01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,800 Speaker 5: and not really giving a fuck about the consequences. 1745 01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:35,320 Speaker 4: Or the repercussions of anything that they're doing. 1746 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,200 Speaker 5: All they go is your point, my point, I just 1747 01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,479 Speaker 5: made you look bad is one of those things. Was 1748 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:42,360 Speaker 5: fucked up, and honestly, on a lot, like you say, 1749 01:26:42,880 --> 01:26:46,960 Speaker 5: it's sad, but sometimes social media is terrible with this 1750 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:51,320 Speaker 5: when people actually go and actually look for these people 1751 01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:55,000 Speaker 5: just to purposely follow them as shit, just the purposely 1752 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,120 Speaker 5: have them say shit, I'm sure like this, this is 1753 01:26:58,120 --> 01:26:58,719 Speaker 5: what they do. 1754 01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:00,960 Speaker 2: Without even looking much into this story. 1755 01:27:01,080 --> 01:27:03,760 Speaker 3: I'm already sure she's been threatened to be raped, she's 1756 01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 3: been called her nigger. 1757 01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,280 Speaker 2: She's been told she should be fired. I'm already sure 1758 01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:08,559 Speaker 2: of it. 1759 01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,320 Speaker 3: You know, I'm already sure she probably getting that daily 1760 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,160 Speaker 3: just being the Ebony editor. 1761 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,679 Speaker 8: Well, here's the news, one of America's most influential African 1762 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:21,080 Speaker 8: American publications, Ebony Magazine, exposing her true colors this morning. 1763 01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:24,080 Speaker 8: Her name is Jamala Lemieux, and she spent all day 1764 01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,240 Speaker 8: yesterday on Twitter and. 1765 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:31,000 Speaker 2: So spelled Jamila, but okaysulting black conservatives. 1766 01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,400 Speaker 8: She sorted the debate on her own, complaining about a 1767 01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:35,519 Speaker 8: new live magazine. 1768 01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:38,320 Speaker 4: Care all day out, the few tweets was all day right. 1769 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,400 Speaker 2: It was really like one thing she said to this dude. 1770 01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:46,000 Speaker 8: Name is Jamala Lemieux, and she spent all day yesterday 1771 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,040 Speaker 8: on Twitter insulting black conservatives. 1772 01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 6: She sorted the debate. 1773 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:51,559 Speaker 2: That's not what she did. 1774 01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:55,200 Speaker 4: No, she did not, That's not what she did, Okay. 1775 01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:58,639 Speaker 8: On her own, complaining about a new online magazine founded 1776 01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:02,400 Speaker 8: by doctor Ben Carson. When Raffie Williams, a black conservative 1777 01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:05,320 Speaker 8: and son of Foxer's, contributed, jan Williams tried to enter 1778 01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,800 Speaker 8: that debate. This was her response quote, oh great, here 1779 01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:10,840 Speaker 8: comes a white dude telling me how to do this 1780 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:11,519 Speaker 8: black thing. 1781 01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:12,280 Speaker 6: Pass. 1782 01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,000 Speaker 8: Williams, who is also the Deputy Press Secretary of the RNC, 1783 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,080 Speaker 8: is not white, he is black. And the senior editor 1784 01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,599 Speaker 8: followed up by saying this, I forgot that. I forgot 1785 01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,320 Speaker 8: that tweeting something about a conservative because, by the. 1786 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:29,400 Speaker 3: Way, this is also the problem with cable news. They 1787 01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,400 Speaker 3: did no research at all. They just run whatever the 1788 01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:34,280 Speaker 3: fuck they want to run with. They didn't look any 1789 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:34,920 Speaker 3: of this shit up. 1790 01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,720 Speaker 2: They didn't even see how to pronounce her name. 1791 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,439 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be like, literally, if she had a picture 1792 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 3: of a dick as one of her tweets, they would 1793 01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 3: have accidentally put it on the air by now, because 1794 01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:45,960 Speaker 3: they don't give a fuck. It's like, oh, we got 1795 01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 3: a hot three minutes, let's feel it, like. 1796 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:50,200 Speaker 8: Leaving a cookie out in a house full of roaches 1797 01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,480 Speaker 8: and turning the lights off. Wow, that wasn't the apology. 1798 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:55,559 Speaker 8: I thought this was heading. That's where was this heading? 1799 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,880 Speaker 8: Raffia Williams shows us right now, Raffie, were you surprised 1800 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,160 Speaker 8: about the that came your direction? 1801 01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:04,400 Speaker 9: I was very surprised by it, you know, it caught 1802 01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:06,160 Speaker 9: me off guard. I thought I was just making a 1803 01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,400 Speaker 9: point about diversity of thought and promoting that in the 1804 01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 9: black community, and I got. 1805 01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:10,479 Speaker 6: Attacked for it. 1806 01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:11,960 Speaker 9: So that caught me very much off guard. 1807 01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,120 Speaker 2: So it got caught off guard. 1808 01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:15,400 Speaker 6: And you did get this is your U. 1809 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,439 Speaker 8: You asked for an apology, and you said, I was 1810 01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:22,000 Speaker 8: looking at yourrava. She did you apologize this way? I 1811 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,960 Speaker 8: was looking at your avatar without blowing it up, so 1812 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,719 Speaker 8: your picture without blowing it up. I apologize for that. However, 1813 01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,160 Speaker 8: I care about nothing you have to say. That's the 1814 01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:30,599 Speaker 8: worst apology I've ever saw. 1815 01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:33,679 Speaker 9: Well, I don't really think that's a real apology, because 1816 01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 9: what's that issue here is I'm trying to promote diversity 1817 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:37,880 Speaker 9: of thought, diversity of pinions. I think it's what made 1818 01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,599 Speaker 9: America great, and what she's doing instead is saying, oh, 1819 01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:42,679 Speaker 9: if you were white, I still would have dismissed your claims. 1820 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,120 Speaker 9: I don't think my race has anything to do with 1821 01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 9: the points I was making. I think they stand on 1822 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:48,400 Speaker 9: their own, and I think that's something that most That's 1823 01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,680 Speaker 9: why conservatives were rallying around me yesterday is because they 1824 01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 9: saw this as a slight against conservatism. It's a slight 1825 01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,439 Speaker 9: against my ideology, and I think that America's built for debate. 1826 01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,840 Speaker 6: It's the first Amendment. I think, I mean, you get it. 1827 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,559 Speaker 8: You hear a lot of that from Senator Scott, You 1828 01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,400 Speaker 8: hear about that Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, And now you're 1829 01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,280 Speaker 8: getting some backlash. Now today there is some news and 1830 01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,599 Speaker 8: the RNC is not taking this sitting down. They're actually 1831 01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,920 Speaker 8: backing you up. And Ryan's previous is requesting that Ebony 1832 01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:17,400 Speaker 8: magazine apologize to you saying this quote. Raphie deserves an 1833 01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,080 Speaker 8: apology for missil Meeu and from Ebany, not just making 1834 01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:24,160 Speaker 8: assumptions about his race, but more importantly for dismissing black 1835 01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:27,960 Speaker 8: Republicans and the validity of their opinions in public discourse. 1836 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,519 Speaker 8: I guess it feels good to be backed up. 1837 01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:31,559 Speaker 6: What do you expect to come. 1838 01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:35,040 Speaker 9: From this, Well, I'm hoping that they can issue an apology, 1839 01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:36,800 Speaker 9: and I'm also hoping that they'll allow me to write 1840 01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,360 Speaker 9: a guest piece in Ebony talking about the value of 1841 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,280 Speaker 9: diversity's thoughts and the value of different ideas and how 1842 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:45,640 Speaker 9: engaging with them actually makes everybody stronger and helps everybody. 1843 01:30:46,240 --> 01:30:47,439 Speaker 6: And I think that's a real big thing. 1844 01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:49,120 Speaker 9: I think it'd be very important for the readers of 1845 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,680 Speaker 9: Ebony to hear how they're not hearing both sides of 1846 01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:53,479 Speaker 9: the issue here, and it'd be helpful. I think it 1847 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 9: educational for them to hear both sides. 1848 01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,679 Speaker 8: As your dad reacting, he's. 1849 01:30:57,479 --> 01:30:59,720 Speaker 9: Been very supportive and you know, watching out for his 1850 01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:02,680 Speaker 9: I really appreciated all his advice and just kind of 1851 01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,360 Speaker 9: talking me through it all. You know, he's been through 1852 01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:06,200 Speaker 9: his fair share of crisis too, so he knows how 1853 01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:06,680 Speaker 9: to handle it. 1854 01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:06,840 Speaker 5: Well. 1855 01:31:06,920 --> 01:31:08,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, he has been been attacked as well. 1856 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:09,439 Speaker 6: He Lo. 1857 01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,639 Speaker 8: You differ on many different issues, you obviously love each 1858 01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,760 Speaker 8: other and support each other. I'm very curious to see 1859 01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:16,559 Speaker 8: if Evany's going to step up and do the right thing. 1860 01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,240 Speaker 8: Rafie Williams, thanks so much for joining us this morning. 1861 01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they want to write a guest call of the devity. 1862 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,640 Speaker 5: Why why why would they do that? 1863 01:31:26,720 --> 01:31:29,720 Speaker 4: They apologize That is the end of the transactions, sir. 1864 01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:31,479 Speaker 2: They're milking the shit out of the. 1865 01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:33,840 Speaker 5: Yes because you're not going to invite me on an 1866 01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:36,320 Speaker 5: RNC platform to voice my opinion. 1867 01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,840 Speaker 3: People were wanting to get her fired like and this 1868 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,360 Speaker 3: is another thing I wish more liberal propagations did this, 1869 01:31:42,479 --> 01:31:45,680 Speaker 3: but well, what motherfucker it's the same they with a 1870 01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:46,719 Speaker 3: Cobat report canceling. 1871 01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:47,960 Speaker 2: The other reason the. 1872 01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:52,080 Speaker 3: Cobat report thing was stupid, They're not going to cancel it. Oh, 1873 01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:53,639 Speaker 3: what's the other reason it was stupid? 1874 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:54,320 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 1875 01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,920 Speaker 3: It's just if you could have said apologized Colbert or something, 1876 01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,479 Speaker 3: you might've got something out of that. You are not 1877 01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,400 Speaker 3: getting them to cancel a cash cow like that over 1878 01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:07,360 Speaker 3: this shit, you know. And this is even worse because 1879 01:32:07,479 --> 01:32:09,960 Speaker 3: these motherfuckers gonna read Ebony. What you're gonna do Boycott 1880 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:10,879 Speaker 3: a magazine you don't. 1881 01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:14,120 Speaker 5: Read, Hello, and what you're gonna do write an article 1882 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:17,960 Speaker 5: for people that that Hey, the people that you're writing 1883 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,639 Speaker 5: for ain't gonna read that shit, right? 1884 01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:23,160 Speaker 2: But it is the seduction of social media, it, you know. 1885 01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,240 Speaker 5: And I it just sounds like a troll or somebody 1886 01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:26,960 Speaker 5: just floats around and does this shit. 1887 01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:30,559 Speaker 2: But it to me when. 1888 01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:35,840 Speaker 3: I'm say seduction to social media, I'm talking about for Jamilla, like, 1889 01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,599 Speaker 3: you can sometimes get to the point where you're feeling yourself. 1890 01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,360 Speaker 3: I've done it, yes, where someone said something just like man, 1891 01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,479 Speaker 3: fuck Like I just say something shady or sharp or 1892 01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:49,439 Speaker 3: dismissive to a person, and sometimes it turns out, Oh 1893 01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:52,720 Speaker 3: well I should just considered that person they had more 1894 01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:56,040 Speaker 3: valid points to add, or really fuck them, I don't care. 1895 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:58,920 Speaker 3: Good news is I don't have to worry about them 1896 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:00,000 Speaker 3: going to anyone, you. 1897 01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:01,680 Speaker 2: Know what I mean? Yeah, who they're gonna go to 1898 01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:05,439 Speaker 2: to you right as opposed to her where you know, 1899 01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:10,759 Speaker 2: these publications don't really want this type of net negative stuff, 1900 01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:13,519 Speaker 2: And if you can just make much enough of a stink, 1901 01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,439 Speaker 2: they'll be like, all right, you gotta apologize, even if 1902 01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:17,040 Speaker 2: you don't want to. 1903 01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't stand behind people and support versus the 1904 01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,639 Speaker 5: own versus I guess I almost say the other side 1905 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:26,479 Speaker 5: versus a lot of Republicans. They'll support you to the end, 1906 01:33:26,560 --> 01:33:28,799 Speaker 5: no matter how fucked up the ship you say. 1907 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,240 Speaker 2: Is yeah that newly way a wife that pushed the 1908 01:33:32,479 --> 01:33:36,080 Speaker 2: but anyway, yeah this is fucked up. Yeah, this is 1909 01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:37,840 Speaker 2: actually fucking with black people. One hundred points. 1910 01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:40,320 Speaker 3: All right, so we can we played the music. I 1911 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:41,880 Speaker 3: did not play the music. I didn't even think of 1912 01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:43,360 Speaker 3: it until I was reading this shit and I was like, oh, 1913 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,320 Speaker 3: wait a minute, is clearly them fucking with black people. 1914 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:50,519 Speaker 3: Let mean, let me play the music. I guess here 1915 01:33:50,560 --> 01:34:01,080 Speaker 3: we go. One hundred points one hundred points. That newly 1916 01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:04,880 Speaker 3: Land wife that pushed her husband on the side of 1917 01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,080 Speaker 3: her mountain got thirty years in prison. 1918 01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,360 Speaker 4: Oh oh wow, why did she do it? 1919 01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:15,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, she shoved her husband after eight days of met 1920 01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:15,360 Speaker 2: with it. 1921 01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:17,840 Speaker 4: That's right. You read this a while ago, didn't you. 1922 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:23,000 Speaker 2: Off a cliff and Glacier National Park? Sinners might be 1923 01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:23,479 Speaker 2: like to you. 1924 01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:26,280 Speaker 3: It is indeed far from less than the prosecution asked for, 1925 01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:29,519 Speaker 3: which was to quote the pen it's briefing. Certainly no 1926 01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:33,320 Speaker 3: less than six hundred months imprisonment. But she got thirty 1927 01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:35,559 Speaker 3: more months because she's a woman. And that's the one 1928 01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:39,439 Speaker 3: double standard that helps women out in America. 1929 01:34:39,160 --> 01:34:41,440 Speaker 2: That in dates, that's like, that's what you get, ladies. 1930 01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:43,160 Speaker 5: And day. 1931 01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna always question what you're wearing. 1932 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,800 Speaker 3: But in all fairness, if you kill one of us, 1933 01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:50,400 Speaker 3: you only go to jail for half the time. 1934 01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, by what turned out to be the. 1935 01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:57,120 Speaker 3: Prosecutor is complicated theorizing about what exactly happened between this 1936 01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:00,320 Speaker 3: couple on the evening of July seven, twenty thirteen. Let's 1937 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:02,800 Speaker 3: be absolutely Claire Graham has confessed that, yes, she put 1938 01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:04,679 Speaker 3: her hands on hers his back and shoved him face 1939 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:08,120 Speaker 3: first off, the cliff, but that isn't an active question 1940 01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:08,879 Speaker 3: about whether. 1941 01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:11,080 Speaker 2: Or not she did that. The active question is about why. 1942 01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:17,679 Speaker 3: So, according to testimony giving a court and some text messages, 1943 01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,599 Speaker 3: Graham had been sending a friend she had been having 1944 01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:22,639 Speaker 3: second thoughts about marriage. 1945 01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,920 Speaker 2: She did text a friend that evening that but dead. 1946 01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:28,439 Speaker 3: Seriously, if you don't hear from me at all tonight 1947 01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:34,920 Speaker 3: again tonight something happened. She also an aftermath, lied about 1948 01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:37,519 Speaker 3: whether she'd been to the park at all, though she 1949 01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,320 Speaker 3: found the body herself, and even fabricated an email from 1950 01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:43,240 Speaker 3: a fake friend Tony, to supplement her cover story that 1951 01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:44,639 Speaker 3: she had taken off with others. 1952 01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:50,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, the email with hello Jordan, my name is Tony. 1953 01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,599 Speaker 2: There's no bothered in looking for Cody anymore. He is gone. 1954 01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:55,840 Speaker 3: I saw your post on Twitter and thought I would 1955 01:35:55,880 --> 01:36:00,120 Speaker 3: email you. She eventually confessed to the story something on 1956 01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:01,639 Speaker 3: the lives if there was a fight and I pushed 1957 01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:02,559 Speaker 3: him in the heat a passion. 1958 01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,360 Speaker 2: The details of that were moving targets too. 1959 01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:09,519 Speaker 3: That said, there seemed to be a wide and mysterious 1960 01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,960 Speaker 3: gap between Graham's obvious and ineffective attempts to cover up 1961 01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:14,519 Speaker 3: what she did wrong and the attempt the prosecution was 1962 01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,080 Speaker 3: making to present her as a calculated mastermind. They had to, 1963 01:36:18,200 --> 01:36:19,679 Speaker 3: of course, to get her to convict her the first 1964 01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:21,599 Speaker 3: degree felag the murder, which is what she was originally 1965 01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:24,080 Speaker 3: charged with, along with second degree murder and account of 1966 01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,960 Speaker 3: making false statements. They were federal charges because the crime 1967 01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:32,800 Speaker 3: occurred in the National Park. So yeah, it's just crazy that. 1968 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,840 Speaker 3: I mean, she got thirty years. But you know who 1969 01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,880 Speaker 3: does all that that didn't maliciously do something? 1970 01:36:40,439 --> 01:36:42,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, and why the fuck did you get married? 1971 01:36:43,720 --> 01:36:47,400 Speaker 2: Mm hm to me, that's the big story here is, Yes, 1972 01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:51,920 Speaker 2: why did you get married? You know, well, actually talking 1973 01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:56,479 Speaker 2: about this one tomorrow care okay, but yeah, why the 1974 01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,680 Speaker 2: fuck are you getting married? If this is how you 1975 01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:05,679 Speaker 2: take marriage? Speaking of people wanting stupid ship canceled, people 1976 01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:10,040 Speaker 2: wanted the Black Jeopardy skit canceled from Saturday Night Live. 1977 01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,800 Speaker 2: They want now, they want Saturday Night Live canceled. Have 1978 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,280 Speaker 2: you seen the skit? I'll play it. Let me see 1979 01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:17,080 Speaker 2: how fended you are. 1980 01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:24,280 Speaker 6: This is Black Jeopardy. What what up? 1981 01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:25,360 Speaker 8: What up? 1982 01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:25,720 Speaker 6: What up? 1983 01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:26,040 Speaker 8: What up? 1984 01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:30,679 Speaker 1: Welcome to Black Jeopardy. I'm your host, Alex Treub Black. 1985 01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:37,160 Speaker 1: Now I'm just playing. I'm Darnelle Hayes. It's Jeopardy's fiftieth 1986 01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:40,760 Speaker 1: anniversary and we finally got our own. So our contestants 1987 01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:46,360 Speaker 1: are a mer how you doing, Keeley, what's upp. 1988 01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:54,200 Speaker 3: And Mark Well Marcus Luisy Kaye. He's white dude. By 1989 01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:58,840 Speaker 3: the way, it's so weird. This was a trending topic 1990 01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:03,280 Speaker 3: on Twitter for black people. A couple of weeks later, 1991 01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:06,040 Speaker 3: it's a Saturday night, lask it like, what a crazy 1992 01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:11,439 Speaker 3: time we live in, you know, Surprised. 1993 01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:14,240 Speaker 4: To see you Mark, because I remember that neighborhood. 1994 01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:17,760 Speaker 8: Professor of African American studies at to bring him young Universities. 1995 01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,160 Speaker 6: So I just thought i'd give this a try. 1996 01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:23,800 Speaker 1: Okay, I guess we'll see. Let's take a look at 1997 01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:25,479 Speaker 1: our categories we've got. 1998 01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:32,920 Speaker 6: It's been a minute. That girl all punishment? Had that 1999 01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:40,639 Speaker 6: been a B? That been me? White people? And okay, Emir, 2000 01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:44,599 Speaker 6: you're our returning chap. You pick. Okay, so I'll take 2001 01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:48,120 Speaker 6: that girl for two hundred. Okay, here's the clue. She 2002 01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:49,800 Speaker 6: thinks she cute. 2003 01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:53,680 Speaker 4: Kelly, who is Monique? 2004 01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:54,640 Speaker 6: That's it? 2005 01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:59,439 Speaker 4: That girl for four hundred? 2006 01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:06,120 Speaker 1: Okay, she do hair Kelli. Oh, I'm sorry, you got 2007 01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:07,800 Speaker 1: to stay your answer in the form of a question. 2008 01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:09,519 Speaker 4: Oh, okay, al. 2009 01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:18,280 Speaker 2: It is, but it's also black. It was his name 2010 01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,200 Speaker 2: care We went to college with several yes. 2011 01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:24,000 Speaker 4: Can I ask you? 2012 01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:26,360 Speaker 6: Are there going to be any questions about black history? 2013 01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:31,160 Speaker 6: Hey man, relaxed. What we got is what we got. Okay, 2014 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:35,120 Speaker 6: just try and play. You might win some money. Okay, sure, 2015 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:36,040 Speaker 6: all right, thank you. 2016 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:39,920 Speaker 4: Okay, Kelly, let's go to it's been a minute. 2017 01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:43,800 Speaker 6: Okay, here comes the clue. It's been a minute since 2018 01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 6: he came home a man who is rego. 2019 01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:52,120 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, all right, so it's been a minute for 2020 01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:52,800 Speaker 1: four hundred. 2021 01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:57,719 Speaker 6: Okay, it's been a minute since he got a job. Mark, 2022 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:09,000 Speaker 6: who is an unemployed felt what strong answer. 2023 01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:16,320 Speaker 2: Everybody gave him so much side. I want that as 2024 01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,640 Speaker 2: a jail how many times inside? I needs to be 2025 01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:20,280 Speaker 2: a jail. 2026 01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:26,960 Speaker 6: Okay, meyor steal you? Okay, let's try for two hundred. 2027 01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:31,479 Speaker 1: Okay, Alicia wants to use you as a job reference. 2028 01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,120 Speaker 6: What is good luck with that? 2029 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:35,920 Speaker 7: You got that? 2030 01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:42,960 Speaker 3: By the way, people were like canceled the show because 2031 01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:46,480 Speaker 3: this is making rockery of black people in black culture. 2032 01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:50,240 Speaker 2: And I'm tired of it. I you know, I don't 2033 01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,280 Speaker 2: care if it's satire it's like, God. 2034 01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:55,280 Speaker 5: Damn it, are you sick? Because because I more more 2035 01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:58,040 Speaker 5: I think about it. I remember when this was twinted 2036 01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:01,760 Speaker 5: on Twitter. It was hilarious and the same responses they 2037 01:41:01,800 --> 01:41:04,760 Speaker 5: were given. What the same responses people were giving, just 2038 01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:06,760 Speaker 5: stupid ass responses. 2039 01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:08,320 Speaker 3: And not to mention, it probably was written by the 2040 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,160 Speaker 3: black writers. Yeah, but hey, let's let's keep them out 2041 01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:13,200 Speaker 3: of a job. Hey it's a skit that has all 2042 01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:15,080 Speaker 3: the black people on Satdy Night Live in it. Hey, 2043 01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:17,080 Speaker 3: let's get them out of a job, because fuck it, 2044 01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:18,559 Speaker 3: I'm black and I ain't laughing. 2045 01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,719 Speaker 5: I think it's funny, probably one of the best funniest 2046 01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:24,160 Speaker 5: ones I've seen, because I'm not a big satur Night liudwatcher. 2047 01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:28,639 Speaker 6: Let's do a for four okay? 2048 01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:32,880 Speaker 1: Chase Back says, you have money, but you can't use 2049 01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:33,960 Speaker 1: it until tomorrow. 2050 01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:38,880 Speaker 6: Amir, what is you better give me my seventeen dollars? 2051 01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:43,200 Speaker 6: You know what are you trying to keep my money? 2052 01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:44,880 Speaker 5: Alright? 2053 01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:49,439 Speaker 6: So let's do a for six hundred? Okay? 2054 01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:53,040 Speaker 1: Raheem wants to borrow your bike to go to the store, 2055 01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:57,200 Speaker 1: right quick, Mark, what is no way? 2056 01:41:57,320 --> 01:42:05,200 Speaker 6: Jose ha ha, Well that's gotta be at least close right, 2057 01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,759 Speaker 6: let's just move on in here about today's process. Johnny, 2058 01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:11,080 Speaker 6: thanks Don. 2059 01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:14,519 Speaker 1: Today's Black Jeopardy winner, Will received the new TV by 2060 01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,360 Speaker 1: setting that flat screen TV stands. 2061 01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:20,160 Speaker 2: Better not put a hole in my wall. 2062 01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:25,280 Speaker 6: Set it down, get your whole security depositive, fat antique furniture. Body, 2063 01:42:25,479 --> 01:42:26,679 Speaker 6: don't you bring that in my ouse. 2064 01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:30,479 Speaker 2: I'm so mad. I'm so mad because it's true. 2065 01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,720 Speaker 4: Yes, I like, don't be pushing the hole on my will. 2066 01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,400 Speaker 2: My dad is that person? 2067 01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:40,839 Speaker 3: Your daddy who better not try to hang no fucking 2068 01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:45,519 Speaker 3: heat bottlefl at screen up and a stand is never 2069 01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:46,400 Speaker 3: gonna be on that wall. 2070 01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:49,280 Speaker 4: It's beautiful, y'all. He don't even down there. We got HGTV. 2071 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:52,360 Speaker 4: Your mama won't it and yo, and your dad is 2072 01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:53,160 Speaker 4: like nope, I. 2073 01:42:53,320 --> 01:42:55,240 Speaker 2: Wish they were wrong my wall. 2074 01:42:55,400 --> 01:43:00,040 Speaker 8: Set it down, get your whole security deposit, fat hey antique. 2075 01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:01,920 Speaker 6: Furniture your mind. Don't you bring that in my house 2076 01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:05,639 Speaker 6: or Mere's and old Drunks. Is there a ghost in there? 2077 01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,400 Speaker 6: You'll never know it? Don't you bring that in my house? 2078 01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:12,960 Speaker 6: Back to you? Okay, Mire, the board is still yours. Okay, 2079 01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:17,080 Speaker 6: let's go to had that been me for two hundred Okay? 2080 01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:20,360 Speaker 6: Here it comes. Had that been me, I'd still been 2081 01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:26,840 Speaker 6: hitting that Amir. Who is Robinson? You damn if I 2082 01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:34,320 Speaker 6: pat h let me get a Had that been me 2083 01:43:34,439 --> 01:43:37,720 Speaker 6: for four hundred? Okay? Had that been me, I would 2084 01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:39,360 Speaker 6: have whooped his ass when he was young? 2085 01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:48,800 Speaker 4: Who is Justin bieber Bro Had that been me? For 2086 01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:49,719 Speaker 4: eight hundred? 2087 01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:50,479 Speaker 6: Okay? 2088 01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,639 Speaker 1: Had that been me, I wouldn't have been around them 2089 01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:54,840 Speaker 1: dogs in the first place. 2090 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,200 Speaker 6: Mark, who is Michael Vick? 2091 01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:57,560 Speaker 5: No? 2092 01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:07,719 Speaker 6: Anybody else? I'm sorry, Mark, we were looking for Sarah 2093 01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:19,800 Speaker 6: mc mclot You mean Sarah Mclachlinton, Fine, Mark the boys? George? Okay, good, 2094 01:44:19,840 --> 01:44:21,920 Speaker 6: Let's let's go over to white people for two hundred. 2095 01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:32,880 Speaker 6: White people are always lying about it? Mark? What is 2096 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:37,280 Speaker 6: we don't have any money? Yes, the truth is we 2097 01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:45,920 Speaker 6: would have accepted any answer. Okay, Well, let's keep going 2098 01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:49,560 Speaker 6: white white people for six hundred. Oh well, there's the 2099 01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:52,840 Speaker 6: final bell. As usual. We started late, so we're gonna 2100 01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:55,519 Speaker 6: go on. Hold on, black Jepardy. 2101 01:44:56,000 --> 01:45:06,880 Speaker 1: Here's today's category hit songs that begin with the content 2102 01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:09,599 Speaker 1: answering that when we come back, I watch yourself. 2103 01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:16,560 Speaker 2: Mark, I thought it was cute. Ah it is? I 2104 01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:20,679 Speaker 2: laughed several times. Oh that was enjoyaball and people want 2105 01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,400 Speaker 2: S and L canceled what people want? S and L 2106 01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:25,080 Speaker 2: cancel for that? 2107 01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:26,760 Speaker 4: Man, Oh that was good. 2108 01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:31,560 Speaker 5: I know. Man, it's because and to me, I like 2109 01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:33,439 Speaker 5: for the fact that they're stepping their game up with 2110 01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,800 Speaker 5: the diverse, Like this is part of the diversity that 2111 01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:37,200 Speaker 5: people were crying about before. 2112 01:45:37,280 --> 01:45:39,759 Speaker 3: Now come on, now, it's like people are always looking 2113 01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:41,120 Speaker 3: for the next Twitter hit. 2114 01:45:41,439 --> 01:45:45,160 Speaker 2: Yes, but what is how can I get the next 2115 01:45:45,240 --> 01:45:46,000 Speaker 2: thing trending? 2116 01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:46,880 Speaker 6: Uh? 2117 01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:50,680 Speaker 3: In outrage and uh, this is the thing for a 2118 01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:52,439 Speaker 3: lot of people, is like we can get it trended 2119 01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:57,360 Speaker 3: by you know, something popular canceling, Like maybe we can 2120 01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,599 Speaker 3: actually benefit from having canceled TVG. 2121 01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:03,599 Speaker 2: You know, maybe people be like, what, I'm gonna listen 2122 01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:04,080 Speaker 2: to this ship? 2123 01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:08,519 Speaker 4: Now what I might wonder ship? I might start that myself, 2124 01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:09,920 Speaker 4: but I know I was fucking with y'all. I'm on 2125 01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:10,320 Speaker 4: the show. 2126 01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:12,479 Speaker 2: I'm so I'm so offended. 2127 01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:12,760 Speaker 6: Guys. 2128 01:46:12,840 --> 01:46:13,920 Speaker 2: Can we cancel this? 2129 01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,560 Speaker 3: Go to the blackoutis dot com and listen to a 2130 01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:18,640 Speaker 3: few episodes, vote in the polls. 2131 01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:21,360 Speaker 2: And uh maybe maybe even I mean, become a premium 2132 01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:24,280 Speaker 2: subscriber here. What they really I'm telling all the real 2133 01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:27,600 Speaker 2: offensive ship you need to pay, pay to be so 2134 01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,760 Speaker 2: is cancel to show y'all cancel tvg W T hash 2135 01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:36,280 Speaker 2: that cancel that Yes, uh, let's see what happens. All right, 2136 01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:37,880 Speaker 2: let's play our games. I know that's what people are 2137 01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:39,920 Speaker 2: here for. We didn't get to play yesterday. Sorry, guys. 2138 01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:45,439 Speaker 2: Now that is time for some guess the race. That's right? 2139 01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:47,200 Speaker 2: This guess the race time? 2140 01:46:48,439 --> 01:46:48,559 Speaker 5: Sit. 2141 01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:53,120 Speaker 2: Now, that is time for some guess the raise. That's right. 2142 01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:57,920 Speaker 2: This guest the race time. That's right. It's time for 2143 01:46:58,120 --> 01:46:59,920 Speaker 2: gas the race. The number one game show going to 2144 01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:03,360 Speaker 2: the podcast land where we read or play news articles 2145 01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,200 Speaker 2: from all over the globe, and we asked our contestants 2146 01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:10,799 Speaker 2: today the races Ass chat room to guess the race. 2147 01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:12,840 Speaker 2: No one tells to wee park. 2148 01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:17,880 Speaker 3: All right, let's get started. A sixteen year old boy 2149 01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:24,280 Speaker 3: showers with his girlfriend and her stepfather beats him. Sex 2150 01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:27,040 Speaker 3: is constantly being thrown in the faces of adults. Wait, 2151 01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:29,360 Speaker 3: why are you going to get sassy with this? Well, 2152 01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:32,200 Speaker 3: we couldn't really just get the local I just want 2153 01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:33,040 Speaker 3: the local news story. 2154 01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:33,439 Speaker 2: Guys. 2155 01:47:33,960 --> 01:47:35,960 Speaker 10: I's a story that is prompted so many of you 2156 01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,960 Speaker 10: to weigh in with your comments, your thoughts and athens 2157 01:47:39,080 --> 01:47:42,720 Speaker 10: man arrested on multiple charges. Police say Clinton Ward was 2158 01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:46,360 Speaker 10: enraged when he caught his teenage stepdaughter and her boyfriend 2159 01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:50,040 Speaker 10: in the shower together. The police report said Ward pushed 2160 01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,120 Speaker 10: the sixteen year old boyfriend up against the wall and 2161 01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:55,519 Speaker 10: punched him in the face and chest. The girl said 2162 01:47:55,680 --> 01:47:58,599 Speaker 10: she also had a big red eye from being hid 2163 01:47:58,640 --> 01:47:58,840 Speaker 10: in the. 2164 01:47:58,840 --> 01:47:59,439 Speaker 2: Face as well. 2165 01:48:00,040 --> 01:48:01,439 Speaker 4: Board is charged with battery. 2166 01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:04,960 Speaker 10: The story has more than one thousand comments and one 2167 01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:08,080 Speaker 10: thousand shares on our Facebook page right now. A majority 2168 01:48:08,120 --> 01:48:11,919 Speaker 10: of those comments are in support of the father. Definitely 2169 01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:13,280 Speaker 10: a very polarizing story. 2170 01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:13,599 Speaker 8: Tonight. 2171 01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:15,960 Speaker 10: Keith Whitney is following for you from Athens. 2172 01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:20,560 Speaker 11: Keith, Yeah, Melissa, you know, other than the mother of 2173 01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,360 Speaker 11: the sixteen year old boy who was punched, we didn't 2174 01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:25,680 Speaker 11: find too many people who thought that the dad did 2175 01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:29,439 Speaker 11: anything wrong. And ironically, that includes the sixteen year old 2176 01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,320 Speaker 11: boy who was punched. Now I spoke with him and 2177 01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:36,240 Speaker 11: his mom at length off camera tonight. They actually disagree 2178 01:48:36,560 --> 01:48:38,880 Speaker 11: as to whether Clinton Antonio Ward should have been charged 2179 01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:42,320 Speaker 11: with misdemeanors by Athens Clark County police for punching the 2180 01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:44,240 Speaker 11: team when he found him in the shower at his 2181 01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:47,800 Speaker 11: home with his sixteen year old step daughter in flagrante 2182 01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:48,479 Speaker 11: de lecto. 2183 01:48:49,120 --> 01:48:51,760 Speaker 2: All of the neighbors we talked to support the dad. 2184 01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:55,040 Speaker 12: I am a father, I have a fourteen year old, 2185 01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:56,400 Speaker 12: and I thank you for I came home and a 2186 01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:59,360 Speaker 12: guy in my house, my daughter in a shower. I 2187 01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:02,920 Speaker 12: think I read the same. You know our laws are crazy. 2188 01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:05,360 Speaker 12: You know you saiventeen alone. You charged an adult and 2189 01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:07,160 Speaker 12: you come on, you sixteen. I don't know if it 2190 01:49:07,160 --> 01:49:09,360 Speaker 12: got bigger than him or smaller, but still it's in 2191 01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:13,040 Speaker 12: his house, his daughter. I think he reacted right. You've 2192 01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:14,920 Speaker 12: done the same thing I've done, exact same thing. 2193 01:49:17,880 --> 01:49:20,200 Speaker 11: Indeed, a lot of folks wondered how could it be 2194 01:49:20,280 --> 01:49:23,280 Speaker 11: a crime when they certainly don't believe that the dad 2195 01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,120 Speaker 11: did anything wrong, at least not according to dad law. 2196 01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,240 Speaker 11: Now we understand that Ward does have a lawyer and 2197 01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:31,400 Speaker 11: that he may have lost his job already, but we 2198 01:49:31,439 --> 01:49:34,559 Speaker 11: could not secure a comment from him personally tonight. The mom, 2199 01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:37,240 Speaker 11: on the other hand, is still vehement in her belief 2200 01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:40,040 Speaker 11: that even though her son was wrong, she does not. 2201 01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:41,599 Speaker 6: Believe he should have been hit by Ward. 2202 01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,120 Speaker 11: In Athens Keith Whitney, Love of Life News Today. 2203 01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:51,240 Speaker 3: All right, so chat room I guess the race of 2204 01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:56,360 Speaker 3: Clinton Ward father who decided to take the law in 2205 01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:57,040 Speaker 3: his old hands. 2206 01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:58,599 Speaker 2: Karen, what were you going to say earlier? 2207 01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:02,920 Speaker 4: He's whooping everybody ass about to get some. He was 2208 01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:04,800 Speaker 4: like fuck that, and you know what, that child be 2209 01:50:04,840 --> 01:50:06,680 Speaker 4: glad he didn't have a gun. He shot killed him. 2210 01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:07,320 Speaker 6: I love that. 2211 01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:12,760 Speaker 2: Facebook was like like every like the newscast. Can't believe that. 2212 01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:16,439 Speaker 2: Everyone on social media is like, yep, should have should 2213 01:50:16,479 --> 01:50:16,920 Speaker 2: have shot him. 2214 01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:18,559 Speaker 4: Yep, shouldn't be the fucking his house. 2215 01:50:19,880 --> 01:50:21,800 Speaker 2: Now you say that, but you know I was in 2216 01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:24,880 Speaker 2: your house taking showers at sixteen. 2217 01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:25,719 Speaker 5: So yeah, we didn't. 2218 01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:26,920 Speaker 4: Crazy, that's the difference. 2219 01:50:27,080 --> 01:50:29,800 Speaker 3: Crazy, how people get old and just just lose all this? 2220 01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:32,920 Speaker 3: You see how happen as you young people just get 2221 01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:34,120 Speaker 3: old becoming hypocrite. 2222 01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:36,120 Speaker 2: I sure did because it was rolled in. 2223 01:50:36,760 --> 01:50:39,240 Speaker 3: Took a many a shower off that that that that 2224 01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:44,320 Speaker 3: side of the house. Flagrant Delecto was also his rapper 2225 01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:47,880 Speaker 3: name Black I will. I'll be damned if I surf. 2226 01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:53,519 Speaker 3: If you surfboard my daughter black black Black, Maybe you 2227 01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:54,639 Speaker 3: should have rolled up the partition. 2228 01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:58,599 Speaker 2: Guys, I whoop up when when I want to slap, 2229 01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:03,559 Speaker 2: when I wanna slap, when I want a black black 2230 01:51:03,880 --> 01:51:05,719 Speaker 2: and black everybody's going with black. 2231 01:51:05,920 --> 01:51:08,799 Speaker 3: As Lennon Brothers is here. These aren't very creative answers, 2232 01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:10,759 Speaker 3: but they are all correct. 2233 01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:11,400 Speaker 2: He was black. 2234 01:51:17,160 --> 01:51:19,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess he said you better be glad that 2235 01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:20,960 Speaker 4: the best idea was punch your ass. 2236 01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:21,840 Speaker 2: I guess. 2237 01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:21,960 Speaker 5: So. 2238 01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:30,280 Speaker 3: Here's another article about a father who uh once again 2239 01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:37,439 Speaker 3: found his daughter in a compromising musician and h took 2240 01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:42,160 Speaker 3: the law into his own hands. Uh this, this man said, uh, 2241 01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:47,640 Speaker 3: not not in my house, son, apparently, but this is 2242 01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:49,559 Speaker 3: even worse. They weren't taking a shower together. 2243 01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:53,519 Speaker 2: He was in the bedroom. Karen, we all know what 2244 01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:54,599 Speaker 2: happens in the bedroom. 2245 01:51:56,120 --> 01:52:03,280 Speaker 3: Seeing homicide investigat are gathering evidence at their father shoots 2246 01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:06,280 Speaker 3: and kills a teenage boy found in his daughter's bedroom. 2247 01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,720 Speaker 5: You don't fucking being somebody else's house. And I know 2248 01:52:13,800 --> 01:52:15,800 Speaker 5: I'll be one hundred percent of hypocrite because I did 2249 01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:16,160 Speaker 5: the shit. 2250 01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:18,519 Speaker 2: I know that, but I don't. 2251 01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:22,120 Speaker 5: It's one of those things from a parent's perspective, you 2252 01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:24,519 Speaker 5: don't live there. What the fuck are you doing in 2253 01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:25,639 Speaker 5: my goddamn house? 2254 01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:27,960 Speaker 2: I guess I should be dead then, Thank god I 2255 01:52:27,960 --> 01:52:28,599 Speaker 2: ain't get caught. 2256 01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:32,679 Speaker 3: I'm glad to folks person from the Harrison County Shriffs 2257 01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:36,400 Speaker 3: officer said deputy constables from precin For respoted to a 2258 01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,600 Speaker 3: nine one one collar around two twenty am about a 2259 01:52:39,840 --> 01:52:43,320 Speaker 3: shooting in Bridgestone Lake Subdivision in northwest Harrison County. Police 2260 01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,760 Speaker 3: tells Fox twenty six reporter John Donnelly that the father 2261 01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,120 Speaker 3: was notified that there was someone in his daughter's bedroom 2262 01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:49,599 Speaker 3: by one. 2263 01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:52,000 Speaker 2: Of his other other children snitching. 2264 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, because because when you're young, you're dumb. 2265 01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:57,920 Speaker 5: You'll you'll be thinking about consequences and trespassing and bullshit 2266 01:52:58,040 --> 01:52:58,200 Speaker 5: like that. 2267 01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:00,599 Speaker 4: You're trying to fuck you your mind. Don't think beyond 2268 01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:01,640 Speaker 4: that perspective. 2269 01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:05,560 Speaker 3: The father then went into the girl's boyfriend discovered the 2270 01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:07,840 Speaker 3: seventeen year old male in bed with a sixteen year 2271 01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:12,800 Speaker 3: old daughter. The daughter denied knowing who the boy was oh, 2272 01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:17,200 Speaker 3: and a conversation between the father and the boy started. 2273 01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:20,120 Speaker 3: The boy apparently wasn't listening to the father's commands and 2274 01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:22,160 Speaker 3: reached for something, and ended with the seventeen year old 2275 01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:24,960 Speaker 3: being shot and killed at the scene. The sixteen year 2276 01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,320 Speaker 3: old later admitted the investigator she did know the boy 2277 01:53:27,439 --> 01:53:28,200 Speaker 3: and had led him. 2278 01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:31,200 Speaker 2: Into the home. She's just like I don't want a 2279 01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:33,000 Speaker 2: whoop him. And now this nigga's dead. 2280 01:53:33,479 --> 01:53:33,679 Speaker 6: Yep. 2281 01:53:34,479 --> 01:53:36,960 Speaker 3: The father was taken by aim Lance from the home 2282 01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:38,879 Speaker 3: for treatment of unrelated medical situation. 2283 01:53:39,240 --> 01:53:42,240 Speaker 2: So far, no arrest of it made. Guessed the race 2284 01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:49,200 Speaker 2: of the father who killed this boy. I wonder if 2285 01:53:49,240 --> 01:53:53,560 Speaker 2: they have see if they have the actual name for 2286 01:53:53,680 --> 01:53:56,400 Speaker 2: the father here. Nope, just says the scenario Dad. 2287 01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,080 Speaker 3: So I don't have the name. I do have the picture, 2288 01:53:59,160 --> 01:54:02,840 Speaker 3: so I know the race already. So guys, uh, guess 2289 01:54:02,920 --> 01:54:04,920 Speaker 3: the race in the chat room. Let's see what they say. 2290 01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:07,800 Speaker 2: Black. This is the third story like this. The first 2291 01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,559 Speaker 2: two were black, and so is this one? Blazes black? Black? 2292 01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:15,640 Speaker 2: Says camera Booker. All right, looks like that's all the 2293 01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:20,040 Speaker 2: guests get. People not feeling Guess the race? Night maybe 2294 01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:21,040 Speaker 2: ended early? 2295 01:54:21,360 --> 01:54:21,479 Speaker 5: Uh? 2296 01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:25,840 Speaker 3: The correct answer is fast tailed, girls, Dad, I black? 2297 01:54:26,360 --> 01:54:28,280 Speaker 3: All my fucking guy, you're still going when he stop, 2298 01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:30,000 Speaker 3: says Paul Devirus, who wants to be kicked out of 2299 01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:30,400 Speaker 3: the chat room. 2300 01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:30,599 Speaker 5: Care. 2301 01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:32,280 Speaker 2: I can't handle that for me. Uh? 2302 01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, the correct answer is black. So everybody that gets black, 2303 01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:48,360 Speaker 3: you guys whack And let's get into the bonus round. 2304 01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:48,720 Speaker 2: Guys. 2305 01:54:49,120 --> 01:54:52,040 Speaker 3: You guys know how it is. Here, we don't stop, 2306 01:54:52,400 --> 01:54:55,040 Speaker 3: as Paul Savarus just found out before he got kicked 2307 01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:55,640 Speaker 3: out of chat room. 2308 01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:56,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I know it. 2309 01:54:56,280 --> 01:55:09,880 Speaker 7: So double the pors, double the points, and the race. 2310 01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:13,840 Speaker 3: That's right, guys, it's the bonus round against the race winner. 2311 01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:15,920 Speaker 3: Take all, double the points, double the race. So far, 2312 01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:19,640 Speaker 3: everybody's two for two that guess both times. Let's see 2313 01:55:19,640 --> 01:55:22,280 Speaker 3: if they keep the street going in this question here. 2314 01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:28,480 Speaker 3: This is probably the most cruel story I've read on 2315 01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:32,600 Speaker 3: the blackout tips, and uh, I feel like people like 2316 01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:36,560 Speaker 3: this should be locked up for life and never be 2317 01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:39,880 Speaker 3: able to uh come back to regular humanity again. 2318 01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:43,400 Speaker 2: A Untile County woman. 2319 01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:46,160 Speaker 3: Is accused of trying to set her fire set fire 2320 01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:49,120 Speaker 3: to her ex boyfriend's home with a pound of bacon 2321 01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:51,440 Speaker 3: left burning on a gas stove. 2322 01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,920 Speaker 4: Oh, you don't do bacon like that, evil son of 2323 01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:58,280 Speaker 4: a bitch. You do not treat bacon like that. 2324 01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:04,400 Speaker 2: Mm Yo A Don Crispy. That is an ironic name. 2325 01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:13,080 Speaker 2: Crispy bacon like my bacon. Yes, Crispy cameo a Don 2326 01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:16,800 Speaker 2: Crispy and cameo for a first name. Word up, I 2327 01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:22,520 Speaker 2: guess it must not a tasted like candy. 2328 01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:22,800 Speaker 5: No. 2329 01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:28,520 Speaker 3: Uh, Krispy's ex boyfriend called Naples police March fourteen to 2330 01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:31,880 Speaker 3: report that he deceived He'd received multiple. 2331 01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:34,080 Speaker 2: Phone calls and text for her in an hour and 2332 01:56:34,520 --> 01:56:35,160 Speaker 2: wanted it to stop. 2333 01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,160 Speaker 3: According to Charge of Documents, he also said he did 2334 01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:39,280 Speaker 3: not want her at his home, and officer went to 2335 01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:41,400 Speaker 3: the home. He said Krispy was obviously impaired and there 2336 01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,800 Speaker 3: was smoke coming out of the front door. I asked 2337 01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:46,200 Speaker 3: to come in and observe a wood stove be left 2338 01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:49,080 Speaker 3: open with a fire burning inside and hot coals on 2339 01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:52,760 Speaker 3: the floor around the stove, noting he also found a 2340 01:56:52,800 --> 01:56:55,400 Speaker 3: cookie sheet loaded with a pound of bacon sitting on 2341 01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:55,800 Speaker 3: top of. 2342 01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:56,560 Speaker 2: The kitchen stove. 2343 01:56:57,560 --> 01:56:58,720 Speaker 4: Everything must burn. 2344 01:57:00,400 --> 01:57:03,720 Speaker 3: That's the worst, most crucial type of situation to kill somebody. 2345 01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:06,760 Speaker 3: Because I might be sleep, I wake up, I go bacon. 2346 01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:09,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, I can't wait. 2347 01:57:10,120 --> 01:57:11,400 Speaker 4: Old school with the woodstone. 2348 01:57:11,600 --> 01:57:13,120 Speaker 2: I guess she's not mad anymore. 2349 01:57:14,320 --> 01:57:15,520 Speaker 4: Next you'll get some eggs. 2350 01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:19,720 Speaker 3: The flames aren't burning up. I observed the burner to 2351 01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:22,160 Speaker 3: be on the setting high and the bacon to be 2352 01:57:22,280 --> 01:57:24,760 Speaker 3: severely burned and smoke badly, which is a felony. 2353 01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:28,320 Speaker 2: Rest for that alone, right. 2354 01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:31,160 Speaker 3: The officer stopped the spread of the fire and arrested Crispy, 2355 01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,800 Speaker 3: who has a blood alcohol content at point three four 2356 01:57:33,880 --> 01:57:39,400 Speaker 3: to six the state. The state charges due to her 2357 01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:42,000 Speaker 3: impaired state. She was taken to the hospital for medical 2358 01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:45,520 Speaker 3: clearance before being booked into jail. The doctor asked her 2359 01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:47,320 Speaker 3: about the fire. She stated she was attempted to start 2360 01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:48,720 Speaker 3: a fire in the house to get back of her 2361 01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:52,280 Speaker 3: ex boyfriend. In addition to the arts in charge, Crispy 2362 01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:56,920 Speaker 3: is also charged with burglary, as soft by prisoner, interfering 2363 01:57:56,960 --> 01:58:00,480 Speaker 3: with the resting officer, electronic communication, harassment, andication. 2364 01:58:00,640 --> 01:58:05,400 Speaker 2: She's doing Core eight or fourteen. So she was trying 2365 01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:10,120 Speaker 2: to live by her name. So let's see what the 2366 01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:14,320 Speaker 2: people think. Her race is in the chat room, white 2367 01:58:14,360 --> 01:58:16,400 Speaker 2: says h. C. H. 2368 01:58:16,840 --> 01:58:23,879 Speaker 3: Crispy Chicken burnt bacon, No Krispy chicken, burnt bacon, no letters, 2369 01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:27,920 Speaker 3: and as white as a flower tortilla, black woman who 2370 01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:30,720 Speaker 3: uses porking everything, including crimes of passion. 2371 01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:34,120 Speaker 2: Right, oh my, there was. It was on the stove 2372 01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:36,600 Speaker 2: in a pot of greens. Everybody's like that, we know 2373 01:58:36,680 --> 01:58:37,080 Speaker 2: what that is. 2374 01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:41,640 Speaker 3: Wasting bacon is white privilege, says Michael t Ford. Wasting 2375 01:58:41,680 --> 01:58:44,120 Speaker 3: bacon is white, says Elliott. She wanted to destroy what 2376 01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:47,880 Speaker 3: he truly loved. Fatal attraction white, Cameron Brooker says black. 2377 01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:52,800 Speaker 3: So this one's gonna separate the racist from the faces. 2378 01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:58,360 Speaker 3: The correct answer is black. Just kidding is white? 2379 01:58:58,480 --> 01:58:59,040 Speaker 2: She was white? 2380 01:58:59,160 --> 01:58:59,360 Speaker 5: Y'all? 2381 01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:02,280 Speaker 4: What that name goes? 2382 01:59:04,520 --> 01:59:05,960 Speaker 2: Y'all must have already heard the story. 2383 01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:08,520 Speaker 3: Y'all guess the woman whose first name was Cameo and 2384 01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:15,320 Speaker 3: last name was Krispy was white. I almost feel like 2385 01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:17,560 Speaker 3: the ones that you who missed it are the real winners, 2386 01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:22,960 Speaker 3: because you guys actually uh used the power of deduction 2387 01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:25,120 Speaker 3: that it just went wrong on you. 2388 01:59:26,600 --> 01:59:28,760 Speaker 2: But if I just said, hey, man, I want. 2389 01:59:28,640 --> 01:59:31,400 Speaker 3: To meet this girl. I met this girl online. Her 2390 01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:34,040 Speaker 3: name is Cameo Crispy, y'all will be like, what'd you meant? 2391 01:59:34,040 --> 01:59:38,240 Speaker 3: The black people meet. A sword attacker threatened to kill 2392 01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:40,440 Speaker 3: Obama and blow up in Orlando courthouse. 2393 01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:44,640 Speaker 2: That's right, I see sword ratchiness. 2394 01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:48,560 Speaker 3: Jason len Gaye, who dons now Nasey and KKK tattoos, 2395 01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:50,440 Speaker 3: is accused of making threats while he was in jail. 2396 01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:52,920 Speaker 3: A man who attacked the tattoo artists with the sword 2397 01:59:52,960 --> 01:59:55,160 Speaker 3: and the guitars now accus of trying to kill President 2398 01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:59,400 Speaker 3: Barack Obama and blow up the Orlando Federal Courthouse. It's 2399 01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:02,960 Speaker 3: almost like you can't really accuse him of killing the 2400 02:00:03,000 --> 02:00:05,120 Speaker 3: present trying to kill the president because he's in Florida 2401 02:00:05,160 --> 02:00:06,440 Speaker 3: and you know it wasn't gonna happen. 2402 02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:08,840 Speaker 2: But at the same time, like what do you do? 2403 02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:09,600 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 2404 02:00:11,200 --> 02:00:12,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't let it go. 2405 02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:16,280 Speaker 3: But if you're if you were going to attempt to 2406 02:00:16,320 --> 02:00:19,640 Speaker 3: prell the president by sword from Orlando, it probably wasn't 2407 02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:24,360 Speaker 3: gonna happen anyway. Jason Len Gaye was arrested April twenty 2408 02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:27,160 Speaker 3: eleven when Orlando police said he attacked tattoo artist Parks 2409 02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:31,760 Speaker 3: Patrick Walker and a customer at Aces Tattoo shop on 2410 02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:32,800 Speaker 3: South Orange Avenue. 2411 02:00:33,120 --> 02:00:35,000 Speaker 2: According to reports released at. 2412 02:00:34,960 --> 02:00:36,880 Speaker 3: The time, while Gay was waiting for Walker to finish 2413 02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:39,280 Speaker 3: up with a customer, he picked up Walker's ceremonial sword 2414 02:00:39,640 --> 02:00:40,880 Speaker 3: and an acoustic guitar. 2415 02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:42,640 Speaker 2: He said, I want to. 2416 02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:48,520 Speaker 3: Rock Walker, Walker told authorities. Gay then laugh that said 2417 02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:50,680 Speaker 3: I'm gonna kill you guys. It's your day to die. 2418 02:00:51,280 --> 02:00:55,120 Speaker 3: Gay Gay, who does Nazi and KKK tattoos, struck Walker 2419 02:00:55,240 --> 02:00:56,840 Speaker 3: on the shoulder with the sword, in the head. 2420 02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:57,240 Speaker 4: With the guitar. 2421 02:00:58,080 --> 02:01:01,200 Speaker 3: Almost can't blame him like you out here ben KKK 2422 02:01:01,360 --> 02:01:04,360 Speaker 3: and Nazi tattoos. I mean, I feel like you are 2423 02:01:04,440 --> 02:01:07,760 Speaker 3: attracting a certain level of clientele that's prone to go crazy. Yes, 2424 02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:10,880 Speaker 3: you are a customer, then slammed a glass tabletop on 2425 02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:16,400 Speaker 3: Gary's head, on Gay's head. Damn Gates spent more than 2426 02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:18,360 Speaker 3: two years in the Orange County jel awaiting trial. It 2427 02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:20,400 Speaker 3: was while he was behind bars, just passed over, that 2428 02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:23,800 Speaker 3: allegedly bailed a letter to Orlando Federal Courthouse tharning to 2429 02:01:23,880 --> 02:01:27,680 Speaker 3: kill Obama. Well he doesn't stay there. I don't know 2430 02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:33,840 Speaker 3: if he knew. Okay, he was like, where's Pennsylvania have? 2431 02:01:34,320 --> 02:01:37,080 Speaker 3: I don't know, they'll get it to him. According to 2432 02:01:37,120 --> 02:01:39,200 Speaker 3: a federal indictment last week, gave bro we are going 2433 02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:40,520 Speaker 3: to rip the last breath out. 2434 02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:41,080 Speaker 2: Of his lungs. 2435 02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:44,920 Speaker 3: So does this mean you can get mail sent out 2436 02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:47,200 Speaker 3: of jail with no one looking at it? Because I 2437 02:01:47,280 --> 02:01:49,000 Speaker 3: heard they look at all the mail you get sent in. 2438 02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:52,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty why wouldn't they read the mail to 2439 02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:53,440 Speaker 4: win out too. 2440 02:01:53,760 --> 02:01:55,640 Speaker 3: Gay has also accused of threding to kill a FBI 2441 02:01:55,680 --> 02:01:58,280 Speaker 3: agent to blow up the courthouse, and November, Gay pleaded 2442 02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:00,200 Speaker 3: no contest to two charger of stemming from the sword 2443 02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:01,400 Speaker 3: attack at the tattoo parlor. 2444 02:02:01,800 --> 02:02:03,760 Speaker 2: He was sentenced to fifteen years in prison. He's serving 2445 02:02:03,800 --> 02:02:04,480 Speaker 2: the sentence at. 2446 02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:10,160 Speaker 3: Central Century correct Correctional Facility and Escambia County. On Wednesday, 2447 02:02:10,280 --> 02:02:12,680 Speaker 3: Grand Jurion died at Gay on charges of threatening the 2448 02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:15,800 Speaker 3: federal agent, threatening the president, and melon threatening communications. Gay 2449 02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:19,680 Speaker 3: slaved to be transported to Orlando for his initial court appearents. 2450 02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:20,040 Speaker 2: In early March. 2451 02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:22,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. Even if they don't, the White House does. They 2452 02:02:22,680 --> 02:02:26,400 Speaker 4: was like, hey, did you read this? Wait a minute, 2453 02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:29,440 Speaker 4: what does that say? Oh, we got a sense somebody 2454 02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:30,520 Speaker 4: down here. We got some foods. 2455 02:02:30,760 --> 02:02:30,960 Speaker 6: Yep. 2456 02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:36,560 Speaker 3: Detroit police said a woman attacked the man with a 2457 02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:39,520 Speaker 3: sword during a robbery attempt on Detroit's west side. Oh my, 2458 02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:41,680 Speaker 3: Police said a woman attacked the man with a sword 2459 02:02:41,720 --> 02:02:44,320 Speaker 3: during the robbery tempt. The Detroit News the Detroit Free 2460 02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:46,600 Speaker 3: Press report the man was walking around six forty pm 2461 02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:49,560 Speaker 3: Thursday on the city's west side when a man and 2462 02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:51,680 Speaker 3: a woman approached him. Police say the woman used the 2463 02:02:51,680 --> 02:02:54,280 Speaker 3: sword to slights a five inch gash into the side 2464 02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:55,000 Speaker 3: of the man's head. 2465 02:02:56,040 --> 02:02:57,680 Speaker 2: Nothing was taken. The wounded man. 2466 02:02:57,600 --> 02:02:59,120 Speaker 3: Called nine one one, and he was taken to the 2467 02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:03,160 Speaker 3: hospital teen hours later. Because Detroit probably no rest were 2468 02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:07,640 Speaker 3: immediately made. Police are seeking tips from the public in 2469 02:03:07,680 --> 02:03:08,760 Speaker 3: search of the suspects. 2470 02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:13,960 Speaker 2: So there you go. Sword ratchetess guys, women and men, 2471 02:03:14,080 --> 02:03:17,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't care what gender you are, doesn't care what 2472 02:03:18,120 --> 02:03:22,640 Speaker 2: nationality it is, and it's always serious, okay, guys, unlike 2473 02:03:23,120 --> 02:03:27,520 Speaker 2: these trigger hashtags, no one's going to use the activism 2474 02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:31,520 Speaker 2: of using the sword on your face for fun. We'll 2475 02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:32,240 Speaker 2: be back tomorrow. 2476 02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:35,280 Speaker 3: Our guests will be Brandy, stand up Communian from Minnesota 2477 02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:39,280 Speaker 3: and uh, you know, hilarity Will and Sue can't wait 2478 02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:41,760 Speaker 3: to talk to her. Keep up with her still, in 2479 02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:45,320 Speaker 3: my opinion, best count of track catfish. All the pictures 2480 02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:48,960 Speaker 3: are old pictures of her as a kid, and you go, okay, 2481 02:03:49,080 --> 02:03:52,240 Speaker 3: so you must be hideous now, and she's beautiful and 2482 02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:53,040 Speaker 3: she shows up. 2483 02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:57,640 Speaker 2: And you're like, why are you catfish? And everybody like, 2484 02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:00,480 Speaker 2: put your real picture out there and get on these 2485 02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:02,680 Speaker 2: you know, get on these hoses. I always say, but 2486 02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:03,840 Speaker 2: I guess she's not into that. 2487 02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:06,920 Speaker 3: Make sure you guys check us out, Adam and Eve 2488 02:04:07,080 --> 02:04:08,839 Speaker 3: tvg WT get your discount. 2489 02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:12,120 Speaker 2: We'll see you guys tomorrow. So until then, I love you,