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Speaker 1: Happy Saturday. The Nine Day Reign of Lady Jane Gray

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Speaker 1: ended on July nineteenth, fifteen fifty three, or four hundred

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Speaker 1: seventy two years ago today, on the day this episode

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Speaker 1: is coming out. Our extremely frequently requested episode on Lady

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Speaker 1: Jane Gray originally came out on March sixth of twenty seventy.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a

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Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. Today's topic is a very very frequent

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Speaker 1: listener request. That's like an understatement. Yeah, you could say

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Speaker 1: very about twelve to fourteen more times and it would

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Speaker 1: still be maybe underselling how much we get this request

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Speaker 1: A lot, a lot. And this is Lady Jane Gray,

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Speaker 1: also known as the Nine Day Queen. She came up

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Speaker 1: very briefly in a past episode by Katie and Sarah

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Speaker 1: in their episode Elizabeth the First, before she was queen

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Speaker 1: basically for an incredibly short time between Edward the sixth

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Speaker 1: and Mary the First. Lady Jane was at least nominally

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Speaker 1: the Queen of England and Ireland, but whether she had

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Speaker 1: any right at all to that title is still the

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Speaker 1: subject of dispute. Even today. I found scholars with polar

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Speaker 1: opposite opinions on that, and really a lot of what

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Speaker 1: goes into the story went on behind closed doors and

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Speaker 1: off the record, so different accounts of it today present

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Speaker 1: incredibly different interpretations of what happened. What we do know

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Speaker 1: is that Lady Jane Gray was born in fifteen thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: but her exact date of birth is unclear. Her birthday

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Speaker 1: is traditionally noted as having taken place in October, the

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Speaker 1: same month as King Edward the sixth. Her parents were

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Speaker 1: Henry Gray and Lady Francis Brandon, and when Jane was born,

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Speaker 1: Henry Gray was Marcus of Dorset and he would later

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Speaker 1: become the Duke of Suffolk, and her parents were still

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Speaker 1: pretty young when they had Jane. They had married at

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Speaker 1: the ages of just fifteen and sixteen, and they were

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Speaker 1: only twenty and twenty one when she was born. Jane

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Speaker 1: and her sisters were Henry the seventh's great granddaughters through

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Speaker 1: their mother Francis, whose mother was Mary Tudor. Mary Tudor

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Speaker 1: was Henry the eighth's sister, so this made them Henry

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Speaker 1: the eight's great nieces. Mary's husband had also been one

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Speaker 1: of Henry the eight's close friends, so on Jane's mother's side,

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Speaker 1: the family was very closely connected to the throne, and

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Speaker 1: the only reason that Francis had not married someone higher

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Speaker 1: siblings to marry off before they got to her. And

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Speaker 1: just two different biographies that I consulted for this both

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Speaker 1: started with multiple pages of family trees outwining these relationships.

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Speaker 1: So if it was a little confusing, welcome to the club,

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Speaker 1: it is a little confusing. Francis and her daughters were,

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Speaker 1: at various points very high up in the line of succession.

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Speaker 1: Henry the Eighth famously had his series of ill feated

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Speaker 1: wives in offspring, and in fifteen thirty six, two of

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Speaker 1: those offspring, Mary and Elizabeth, were declared illegitimate with no

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Speaker 1: her mother Francis was basically next in line. Henry the

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Speaker 1: so his niece Francis, while not his child, was at

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Speaker 1: Edward was born on October twelfth, fifteen thirty seven, as

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Speaker 1: his father's legitimate son, he became next in line to

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Speaker 1: still viewed as ineligible rule. However, in fifteen forty three,

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Speaker 1: Succession also gave Henry the right to name a successor

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Speaker 1: by testament or in his will, which he did. Henry

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Speaker 1: the Eighth's will specified that if his children had no

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Speaker 1: He had also, at one point the year before, been

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Speaker 1: Still with a lot of the people around her angling

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Speaker 1: him marrying Jane completely fell apart, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: first Edward Seymour, the Duke of Somerset, had been Edward's regent. However,

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Speaker 1: as regent was John Dudley. John Dudley was the Duke

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Speaker 1: Jane after this point was a result of Northumberland's nefarious

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Speaker 1: of Jane and Guildford was announced on April twenty eighth,

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Speaker 1: was writing a will to specify who should follow him

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Speaker 2: a lot of the very basic summaries of this whole

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Speaker 2: blank slate of parental ambition. Yeah, you had no say

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