Speaker 1: Literally goes on the line making oone calls every night
Speaker 1: every week, goes to teaching news of your life. Money's
Speaker 1: not really an expert.
Speaker 2: Hello everyone, how you doing? How's life? I'm not going
Speaker 2: to ramble on for too long, but this is the
Speaker 2: Therapy Gecko podcast. How's it going? I normally I haven't
Speaker 2: been doing these intros lately, but I figure I haven't
Speaker 2: uploaded an episode in a while, so, you know, I
Speaker 2: thought it would be a good idea to come on
Speaker 2: here and explain why. And the reason is is that
Speaker 2: lately I have been lazy.
Speaker 3: You can call the.
Speaker 2: Gecko every Monday, Wednesday Friday ten pm Eastern Standard Time
Speaker 2: on Twitch dot tv, slash Lyle forever and let's get
Speaker 2: into it. I feel bad about not uploading, so this
Speaker 2: is going to be a longer episode and we got
Speaker 2: some good calls in here tonight. I'm not going to
Speaker 2: give any spoilers and I'm gonna shut the hell up
Speaker 2: and get into it. Geck Nation Forever. Baby.
Speaker 4: Call from Alex.
Speaker 5: Alex am I on with the Gecko.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 5: This is great? I uh, I love this show. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna walk in and listen for a few weeks now,
Speaker 5: it's kill it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, man. I appreciate that. Is there anything sort
Speaker 2: of in particular that you wanted to talk about tonight, Alex.
Speaker 5: I was hearing you asking about money. Yeah, I'm hoping
Speaker 5: to talk about what money is.
Speaker 2: Tell me asks what is money?
Speaker 5: It's slavery, Gecko. It's just a form of controlling people.
Speaker 2: It's a way of controlling people.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, there could be other ways to exchange things.
Speaker 5: We could exchange kindness or good deeds or art or happiness,
Speaker 5: but we choose money. Stupid.
Speaker 4: If you're asking me, I want.
Speaker 2: To hear more about this, this economy that runs on
Speaker 2: exchanging kindness, I will.
Speaker 5: You know, I wish, I wish I had more experience
Speaker 5: with it, you know what I mean? Like I don't
Speaker 5: get it day to day. But I think I think
Speaker 5: instead of valuing cash or valuing purchases, we can value
Speaker 5: how you make people feel. And I think there's ways
Speaker 5: to measure that. I think besides just how you talk
Speaker 5: to people or how people react to you good things
Speaker 5: to believe you and.
Speaker 2: You believe that there can be an objective measurement of
Speaker 2: kindness that you can then use to weigh to to
Speaker 2: you know, exchange for another thing of equal value. So
Speaker 2: like if I'm a level nine kindness to you, you'll
Speaker 2: give me bread, and bread is worth level nind kindness.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but even one step more than that, right, It's
Speaker 5: like I won't exchange bread for for your kindness. I
Speaker 5: want to give you bread or I want to feed
Speaker 5: you because I recognize that you're kind. You know, it's
Speaker 5: even being moving beyond just a transactional sort of economy.
Speaker 5: We won't have like an exchange there. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's like, how would you get bread?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean if if I'm giving you the bread, right,
Speaker 5: if you're so kind, you know I'm giving you the bread. Yes,
Speaker 5: I want to live with you. I want to tend
Speaker 5: to your land, you know. I want to plant your
Speaker 5: soil or you plow your soil.
Speaker 2: Whatever they But I don't want I don't want everyone
Speaker 2: that I buy bread with. I don't want everyone that
Speaker 2: I buy bread from to live with me. Like if
Speaker 2: I went to the grocery store and I went to
Speaker 2: buy bread and the cash, you're asked to live with me,
Speaker 2: I would say.
Speaker 8: No, totally.
Speaker 5: I hear you, but you know you wont your kindness
Speaker 5: or your your your positive energy won't match up with
Speaker 5: those people you don't want to share those uh those
Speaker 5: energies with, or that your personal space with.
Speaker 2: You know, I would say no, even if he was
Speaker 2: really really nice, I would still not lesto wouldn't let
Speaker 2: him live with me.
Speaker 5: Oh, I see what you're saying. You may not do
Speaker 5: good in this economy if you're not you know, if
Speaker 5: you're not trying to might not be Actually that brings.
Speaker 2: Up a good wan What what?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 2: How does someone survive in this economy if they're an asshole? What?
Speaker 9: What do they do?
Speaker 2: What are they to do?
Speaker 5: That's what's It's not going to be good for them.
Speaker 5: You know, they're going to be pushed to the curve.
Speaker 2: You know what if they have what a they have skills?
Speaker 2: What if like all, what if it turns out that
Speaker 2: everyone who is has the skill of creating bread is
Speaker 2: an asshole? What are we going to do?
Speaker 5: My theory is kind of a breaking down here. There
Speaker 5: might be some sort of bartering that has to just
Speaker 5: take place. But maybe maybe it's not just positive things.
Speaker 5: Maybe there's there's other things that you were just a
Speaker 5: really interesting development that you raise here, It won't necessarily
Speaker 5: be positive things that that go good. You know, we
Speaker 5: have to fight, we have to kill animals. You know
Speaker 5: that's not positive energy necessarily. Maybe we don't have to
Speaker 5: kill animal, but you know what I'm saying, there's certain
Speaker 5: things in our lives that they're not all uh influences
Speaker 5: that that are for the better good. You know, someone
Speaker 5: has to.
Speaker 2: Get hurt, so you I want to go back to
Speaker 2: the bread guy living with me. So I ask a
Speaker 2: guy for bread and he says yes, but he has
Speaker 2: to be able to live with me. But that's an
Speaker 2: exchange of physical value because I'm he's giving me bread
Speaker 2: and exchange for my place. But then how do I
Speaker 2: get the place that to build it myself?
Speaker 5: Well, no, somebody who want to build it for you,
Speaker 5: But you're also gonna want. You're gonna want because if
Speaker 5: they want to be around you, but you are gonna
Speaker 5: want to be around them, or you're gonna want those
Speaker 5: people that build houses to be around you.
Speaker 8: You know, what if I.
Speaker 2: Don't what if I don't want to be well, what
Speaker 2: if I don't want to be around the guy that
Speaker 2: builds houses? What if I think he's kind of great?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know there's gonna be a broad spectrum,
Speaker 5: you know, a panoply of different people that can build
Speaker 5: houses for you, just like you know, like you go
Speaker 5: to a supermarket.
Speaker 2: So I have to pick one of them to be
Speaker 2: friends with.
Speaker 5: You got to get a carpenter, you know, like if
Speaker 5: you're not gonna get a carpenter, if you're gonna if
Speaker 5: you think every single carpenter is an asshole, that you're
Speaker 5: not gonna not gonna be with me in that house.
Speaker 2: No, but that's the but that's the thing here. It
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if they're an asshole. I don't want to
Speaker 2: be I don't want to have to be friends with
Speaker 2: the carpenter just because he I would rather I would
Speaker 2: I'm you know what, I I got to reject this idea.
Speaker 2: I would rather give the carpenter money than be friends
Speaker 2: with him. I think that would be too much kind
Speaker 2: I actually being being kind to that many people all
Speaker 2: the time to get what you want.
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't like that idea. I think I think that
Speaker 2: would be exhausting.
Speaker 5: There's so much anger and unhappiness right now. Though, you know,
Speaker 5: I want to replace with something that's that's better than that.
Speaker 2: I think. I think, look, you know what I think
Speaker 2: you should you if you want this movement to actualize,
Speaker 2: I think you need to start at yourself.
Speaker 5: That's a lot of there's a lot of responsibility.
Speaker 2: That's what I was saying.
Speaker 4: It's too much work.
Speaker 5: I need I need to get more than just me.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I need to get a group.
Speaker 2: Well, it starts with you, Alex.
Speaker 5: Do you think I have it in me? Therapy deco.
Speaker 2: We'll find out. I appreciate you, man, I'll talk to
Speaker 2: you soon too, see you.
Speaker 10: Thanks all from Jonathan to.
Speaker 11: Accept press one.
Speaker 2: Jonathan, Oh ship, did I get on?
Speaker 8: Yep?
Speaker 4: You did?
Speaker 9: Snap?
Speaker 8: How's it going?
Speaker 2: You know it's all right. I'm trying to whatever. Man,
Speaker 2: what are you up to? Fuck all this ship? Tell
Speaker 2: me every think?
Speaker 12: Not too much?
Speaker 13: Man, just went to work today. Uh work in call center,
Speaker 13: work from home, so it's pretty chill. I'll just miss
Speaker 13: you know, interact with people and talking to people that
Speaker 13: aren't total dicks.
Speaker 2: Is like, what percentage of the people you talk to
Speaker 2: at the call center are total x?
Speaker 13: I would say a good ninety eight percent of them. Really, Yes,
Speaker 13: there's so much you have to deal with managers on
Speaker 13: your ass just total idiots. But you know, I get it, man,
Speaker 13: people have their problems, you know, they want to be heard,
Speaker 13: But you got to be a douche about it.
Speaker 2: What what's the world that way? Tell me what this
Speaker 2: call center? Are the people being decks?
Speaker 8: Are they?
Speaker 2: Like? Are you referring to the people you work with
Speaker 2: or the people that you're calling or the most.
Speaker 13: Will I don't do outbound calls people calling to me
Speaker 13: before my current job. I'm kind of a serial call
Speaker 13: center worker.
Speaker 8: I guess you would say I did.
Speaker 13: Like roadside assistants and people calling and they're like their
Speaker 13: cars are all fucked up and they're straight on the
Speaker 13: side of the road. Customers out way they call it
Speaker 13: tow truck drivers, which absolutely suck. But now I deal
Speaker 13: with people's money and nobody likes their money being played with.
Speaker 2: You know, No, yeah, oh no, that I mean that's
Speaker 2: a tough gig, right there. You having people call you're
Speaker 2: the first line of defense. When people are pissed off
Speaker 2: and they need something, they call you.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's just hard sometimes in a let it carry
Speaker 13: over in your personal life.
Speaker 2: Really, Like, do you ever do you ever feel bad
Speaker 2: about yourself from these people? Because I feel like I
Speaker 2: feel like the fact that they are because they're not like,
Speaker 2: what's your name, Jonathan, because they're not calling like, Hey,
Speaker 2: I just wanted to call you Jonathan, because I want
Speaker 2: you to know that I think you specifically, you know,
Speaker 2: suck and uh, you know, I hate you. They're calling
Speaker 2: because it's something that has nothing to do with you,
Speaker 2: but they're they're using you as the lightning rod to
Speaker 2: absorb their their frustration.
Speaker 12: Indeed they do.
Speaker 13: But way do people treat people? It's a huge thing
Speaker 13: in this world with everything else that's going on in
Speaker 13: the country, But.
Speaker 14: You know, treat others how you want to be treated?
Speaker 12: That simple?
Speaker 8: Don't be a do tell?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the worst? What's what's the worst? It
Speaker 2: gets with these people?
Speaker 13: Well, either they cussing you out, threatening to come find you,
Speaker 13: burn your house down. It's like someone like a call
Speaker 13: of duty lobby. So I maybe know how to dude,
Speaker 13: tell me you find me and fuck my mom?
Speaker 2: But did he did he do it?
Speaker 15: No?
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing these people, I mean, I I
Speaker 2: I feel like you got nothing to worry about. These
Speaker 2: people are you know, empty threats. But why did why
Speaker 2: why did this guy tell you that he was going
Speaker 2: to go to your house and fuck your mom.
Speaker 13: Well, basically, I gave him an answer he didn't want
Speaker 13: to hear, and I kept on repeating the same thing
Speaker 13: because he wouldn't understand. So he got all mad and
Speaker 13: then he threatened to suck my mom and I did
Speaker 13: not take that personally. My mom was a very beautiful woman.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. What's what I have a question for you, John?
Speaker 2: Did you said, Jonathan?
Speaker 4: John?
Speaker 9: Either one?
Speaker 5: I've been called worse?
Speaker 2: I can I so I've heard John? What's your bad habit?
Speaker 12: What's my bad habit?
Speaker 14: Sporting lines and fucking dimes? My friend?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 13: Nah, I kicked that ship back in like three years ago.
Speaker 4: Dog, Do you.
Speaker 2: Feel like being high on cocaine would help you deal
Speaker 2: with the aggression that you receive from the call center?
Speaker 2: Or do you feel like it would make you, in
Speaker 2: turn more aggressive when you have to put on your
Speaker 2: sort of customer service you know chill vibes?
Speaker 13: Well, man, I did deck collections before, the same kind
Speaker 13: of call center jig. But I was doing a lot
Speaker 13: of blow at the time, and it made me great
Speaker 13: at it.
Speaker 2: Really to why why? Why? Why do you? Why did it?
Speaker 2: Why do you think cocaine made you better at customer service.
Speaker 12: Have you ever seen Wolf of Wall Street?
Speaker 2: I have, I sat a while ago.
Speaker 12: Dude, I was heart out Jordan Belford than that motherfucker.
Speaker 2: See this is tough, right because I feel like with drugs,
Speaker 2: the trajectory of it or whatever is, you know, it
Speaker 2: bleeds into these other parts of your life. And you're like,
Speaker 2: I can't show up at work because I'm high all
Speaker 2: the time. I can't function. But how do you kick
Speaker 2: a drug that helps you function better? That must be
Speaker 2: different because you don't hit rock bottom, you could your
Speaker 2: life it works for you.
Speaker 13: Well, that's a very good question, and I'm glad you
Speaker 13: asked that. Basically, it triggers a certain part of your
Speaker 13: brain that makes you feel a sense of accomplishment, like
Speaker 13: cocaine for example. Yes, it gives you a sense of accomplishments,
Speaker 13: like basically, so you do something really good and you
Speaker 13: feel proud of yourself. It's instantly like that. However, it's
Speaker 13: a very difficult thing to come off of. Now myself,
Speaker 13: I'm just not doing it and it was very very hard,
Speaker 13: Like I got sweats, paranoia, crazy shit. But it just
Speaker 13: takes passion to really want to get help, and some
Speaker 13: people don't really realize that.
Speaker 2: M how long have you been sober for?
Speaker 15: Uh?
Speaker 14: Three years now?
Speaker 2: Fuck? Yeah, that's awesome. Do you ever like, are you
Speaker 2: ever just like someone's fucking chewing you out and you
Speaker 2: go you hide inside of a cocaine fantasy in your brain.
Speaker 13: Sometimes and then sometimes whenever my friends have it, I
Speaker 13: just get discut feeling. I call it the Lizard brand
Speaker 13: where all your primal instincts just take over and just
Speaker 13: want to go full Tony Montana on that.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I feel you on the Lizard brand.
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, we get go brand.
Speaker 2: Well, Jonathan Matt, I'm happy to hear that things have
Speaker 2: been going well for you. I'm happy to hear you've
Speaker 2: been able to kick it and stay strong. Real quick,
Speaker 2: before we go, I want to end on a good
Speaker 2: note here, tell me about the two percent for people
Speaker 2: on twitch. Jonathan was telling us about how ninety eight
Speaker 2: Jonathan works at a call center. He said, ninety eight
Speaker 2: percent of people interacts with our huge douchebags. But I
Speaker 2: want to ask you about the two percent that aren't.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 13: Most of them are either younger people or people that
Speaker 13: actually need their well that I can actually help them
Speaker 13: out with stuff because I work for a bank, but
Speaker 13: I do like check broud. So people get their checklix
Speaker 13: stolen or their check stolen whatever else, and like if
Speaker 13: their case has been resolve to tell them like.
Speaker 3: Yo, it's done.
Speaker 5: You did you feel me?
Speaker 13: They're like, oh sweet, thanks man, or like they get
Speaker 13: an answer they don't like, they don't like it. But
Speaker 13: it's very rare that we get good calls, and most
Speaker 13: calls are based off surveys. For surveys ain't good. Our
Speaker 13: supervisors but chet us all day.
Speaker 2: So but do you ever want to do something else?
Speaker 2: Do you ever want to like day trade? Like what
Speaker 2: the wolf of a wolf of Wall Street?
Speaker 3: Did you?
Speaker 2: Are you ever thinking about getting out a call center?
Speaker 13: No, you know I've been thinking about doing that or
Speaker 13: maybe audio engineering something like that, you know music stig
Speaker 13: passionate minde beautiful man.
Speaker 2: Well well, Jonathan Man, congratulations on three years and I
Speaker 2: wish you the best of luck moving forward. Appreciate your
Speaker 2: conn and sharing with us.
Speaker 14: Hey man, I appreciate it too.
Speaker 13: Low congratulations on your success, I mean gecko and uh
Speaker 13: hanging in there.
Speaker 2: Thank you man, I appreciate you. Have a good night.
Speaker 8: YouTube by.
Speaker 2: Hey Hey, this is Lyle chiming in again to let
Speaker 2: you know that these next three calls I will be
Speaker 2: accompanied by a guest. Okay, the guest's name is Attorney Tom.
Speaker 2: He is a attorney Tom on all social medias. He
Speaker 2: is a personal injury attorney. He's a good friend of
Speaker 2: mine and he's helped me out on here with a
Speaker 2: few calls. So yeah, I just wanted to give you
Speaker 2: some context for that. Attorney Tom, forever love you. Let's
Speaker 2: get back ato.
Speaker 10: The calls all from Kat.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, Hi?
Speaker 11: Is this gek?
Speaker 7: Oh my god? No way is this really? Oh my god?
Speaker 7: Am I here? Is this real?
Speaker 3: Let me ask you?
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, and I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: you how what year were you born?
Speaker 7: I was born in ninety seven? What's up?
Speaker 2: What's up? What's your name?
Speaker 4: Dude?
Speaker 7: Kat? You could call me Cat?
Speaker 2: Cat? Hello, Okay, how are you doing? What's up?
Speaker 16: Wow?
Speaker 7: This is exciting.
Speaker 16: Wow.
Speaker 7: I never thought i'd get to talk to you.
Speaker 11: This is amazing.
Speaker 2: Well I never thought that I would get to talk
Speaker 2: to you either.
Speaker 17: Cat.
Speaker 7: Yeah, what are the odds?
Speaker 16: You know?
Speaker 2: Uh? Well, listen, I'm here, I'm here with my good friend,
Speaker 2: Attorney Tom, and we're we're out here asking people if
Speaker 2: they've ever been in trouble. Kat, have you ever been
Speaker 2: in trouble?
Speaker 16: Oh?
Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, yeah, I've been in trouble.
Speaker 18: Oh.
Speaker 11: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I don't know where I want to go with this.
Speaker 7: Really yeah, I've been in trouble.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, real quick, I have to add I have
Speaker 2: real quick, I'm going to break the whatever here, Tom,
Speaker 2: I have to ask I. I I felt I is
Speaker 2: there like any fear of like, oh, I don't want
Speaker 2: to be in the situation where this story is being
Speaker 2: told because you're afraid of a liability or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I wanted to check with you about that because because
Speaker 2: on the other on that other call, I saw you
Speaker 2: were you were getting nervous, and I had I had
Speaker 2: to check out.
Speaker 19: The other call was getting into some pretty uh you know.
Speaker 3: Polarizing race.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and you know, we're we're.
Speaker 19: Trying to have fun, We're trying to learn, we're trying
Speaker 19: to grow understandable, you know, and you know we're just
Speaker 19: we're going down a path that yes, you know that
Speaker 19: could have ruined the whole rest of the stream, you know,
Speaker 19: But no, I'm not concerned. You know, people know that
Speaker 19: I'm just here as a guest and I'm not their lawyer,
Speaker 19: and you know, we're just we're having fun, and you know,
Speaker 19: people can use their own judgment on your Tom.
Speaker 7: Hey, Tom, I think it would be cool if he
Speaker 7: was like part of the green screen, like if you
Speaker 7: could give him like a body, like he's just in
Speaker 7: a little like buck on the stream.
Speaker 20: Oh, but you could have put him in the green screen.
Speaker 2: No, I actually, I actually you know what, Cat, I
Speaker 2: thought the exact same thing. Is like when I called Tom,
Speaker 2: like right before I called the shop, I saw he
Speaker 2: was in front of his green screen. I'm like, ah, fuck,
Speaker 2: we should have done like a thing. But maybe maybe
Speaker 2: next time, I'll you know, he and I will be
Speaker 2: floating through space and everything. But anyway, Kat tell us,
Speaker 2: I mean you said you don't know where to start,
Speaker 2: you know, and look, start anywhere, you know, it doesn't
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter where you start.
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, I guess one time I got pulled over,
Speaker 7: and this was when I was like twenty, I admitted
Speaker 7: to having a beer and the cop was just like
Speaker 7: a really big dick and I was driving fast. But
Speaker 7: you know, I was like leaving work and I was
Speaker 7: behind like you know, other people I worked with and
Speaker 7: like it was like, you know, three am whatever, we're
Speaker 7: all just driving and cop pulled me up. So I
Speaker 7: was like, yeah, I had a beer because he said
Speaker 7: he smelled it. He probably didn't smell anything on my bread's.
Speaker 2: You had one beer?
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay yeah, and then so he was like, oh,
Speaker 7: well that's illegal because you're underage, and yeah, so he
Speaker 7: ended up I ended up going to jail that night
Speaker 7: for like eight hours, and they took my breastelizer, which
Speaker 7: ended up being zero, but I still had to go
Speaker 7: through like whatever whatever class you admit it two months
Speaker 7: or whatever.
Speaker 19: Kat you know, had you got pulled over and said officer,
Speaker 19: I'm not talking about my day, probably would have just
Speaker 19: got a speeding ticket.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're so right, And I wish I would have
Speaker 7: known that, but I was just I was young, and
Speaker 7: no one ever tells you these things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they intimidate, you know, it's intimidating.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you never you never want to like just tell
Speaker 7: them like straight up like yeah I've had anything. No,
Speaker 7: you can't, you can't do that.
Speaker 11: You have that.
Speaker 3: You have to be respectful, you can't be a total
Speaker 3: jerk to them.
Speaker 19: But you also have to assert your rights, you know, Officer,
Speaker 19: I'm not talking about my day.
Speaker 3: Why am I pulled over? Am I free to go?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 3: They say, well, why why aren't you answering questions? Huh,
Speaker 3: that's suspicious. Why aren't you answering questions? You know, you've
Speaker 3: probably been drinking, haven't you. Officer. I'm not talking about
Speaker 3: my day. I'm sorry, I'm not talking about He was
Speaker 3: just a dick.
Speaker 7: He seems like his wife cooks them all the time.
Speaker 11: And I just I don't don't think that.
Speaker 7: You know, he's just.
Speaker 18: Not a good dude.
Speaker 7: He's probably racist also, so it's not good.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And I also I also just admittingly, I did have
Speaker 7: like a little bit of heroin on me, like in
Speaker 7: my underwear, so I had to hide that.
Speaker 2: It sounds like you got off easy now.
Speaker 7: No one ever caught me for that, And you know what, Yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm okay.
Speaker 2: So they sent you, What did you do? What can
Speaker 2: I What did you do with the heroin when they
Speaker 2: sent you to jail? How did you?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 8: Okay? List?
Speaker 7: Okay, So it was in my pocket when they put
Speaker 7: me in the car, and so what I had to
Speaker 7: do was like while they were searching my car because
Speaker 7: they ended up finding weed in me, like in my
Speaker 7: car too, because they were like, oh, well, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: search your car now, so they did that. So I
Speaker 7: was like, okay, well, yeah, I do have weed in
Speaker 7: there whatever, which you know, since they just like, okay
Speaker 7: that that's been taken.
Speaker 11: Off my record because of updated wheedleles.
Speaker 7: But anyways, yeah, yeah, So it was in my pocket
Speaker 7: and I'm sitting in the back of the car. I
Speaker 7: have to finesse my you know, handcuffed hands behind me
Speaker 7: into my pocket where I dig around find it.
Speaker 6: It's like in a.
Speaker 11: Little wrap up piece of oil.
Speaker 7: And then I moved that into my like into my jeans.
Speaker 7: I was wearing skinny jeans, so they were really tight,
Speaker 7: so I could just like, you know, it was it
Speaker 7: was not gonna go anywhere, So it was in my
Speaker 7: like in between.
Speaker 18: My thigh and my pants.
Speaker 11: So yeah, it was in there.
Speaker 7: And then it was even even weirder because I had
Speaker 7: to use the bathroom like when I got to the station,
Speaker 7: and they have to supervise you like when you do that,
Speaker 7: so I had to be like so careful. I like
Speaker 7: made eye contact with the cops, you know, and just
Speaker 7: like you know, just like trying to use the bathroom,
Speaker 7: just being.
Speaker 11: Awkward about it.
Speaker 7: But yeah, luckily it didn't fall out or anything. So
Speaker 7: so yeah, yeah, I got away with.
Speaker 2: Bringing heroin into into jail.
Speaker 11: Yeah, which you know, I ended up.
Speaker 9: I got out of jail, so.
Speaker 2: Not that I can do it, but you got you
Speaker 2: got off very easy. That that that was. That was
Speaker 2: quite a plot twist here.
Speaker 7: Well, no, it was kind of. It was.
Speaker 20: It was a little annoying.
Speaker 11: Honestly, I don't I wouldn't say it was.
Speaker 9: It took a lot of.
Speaker 7: You know, time out of my life.
Speaker 2: Oh, taken way more.
Speaker 7: Okay, listen, listen. The lawyer I had, the lawyer you
Speaker 7: get for court really matters. The lawyer I.
Speaker 11: Had was a piece of shit.
Speaker 7: He was a grubby ass, old, old fucking fuck and
Speaker 7: he just he did not handle my case very well,
Speaker 7: and I'm upset about it. He ended up, you know
Speaker 7: what happened to him.
Speaker 18: He ended up.
Speaker 7: So he was like a guy my dad knew. He
Speaker 7: was like friends with my dad, and my dad doesn't know.
Speaker 11: Very great people.
Speaker 7: But yeah, so it turns out this guy isn't a
Speaker 7: lawyer anymore. He's on the run because he lost the
Speaker 7: case to some guy, and that guy started making threats
Speaker 7: to him.
Speaker 11: So now he's out of the office.
Speaker 7: So yeah, you hear that tam me better? You better
Speaker 7: not fuck up?
Speaker 2: Whoa heyday?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why why? Why was he so bad? What you
Speaker 2: like about him?
Speaker 7: I'm sure? Well, what I didn't like about him is like,
Speaker 7: you know, he's like he just didn't fight that hard.
Speaker 7: He didn't. He could have been like, oh, well, you
Speaker 7: can't prove that she was drinking because my rest was
Speaker 7: a zero. They couldn't have proved it anyway.
Speaker 19: Yes, they could have proved it, you know why because
Speaker 19: they Okay, I'm going to put the officer on the stand.
Speaker 7: Just because I say it doesn't mean I did it.
Speaker 19: I mean, that's pretty tough to uh, I'm going to
Speaker 19: put the officer on the stand in front of dry
Speaker 19: When you go, mister officer, what did miss cat tell
Speaker 19: you when she was in the back of the police car.
Speaker 3: She told me that she'd been drinking. Are you sure
Speaker 3: that's what she said? Yes? Okay, miss Cat? Did you
Speaker 3: tell the officer you've been drinking? Yes?
Speaker 7: Okay, Well, so what was her brustolizer?
Speaker 9: What was objection?
Speaker 19: By the time you take a breath of objection irrelevant.
Speaker 19: By the time you take a breathalyzer, you your one
Speaker 19: drink has been processed, but you're an underage drinker. It's
Speaker 19: not even allowed under the wall.
Speaker 10: Hmm.
Speaker 2: I want a T shirt with objection irrelevant on it.
Speaker 3: I guess relevant it not irrelevant. I'm sorry. I've been
Speaker 3: in court a long time. Objection relevance.
Speaker 2: Well, Cat, Uh, I'm sure. I'm sure that you've got,
Speaker 2: you know, a lot lots more stories to tell. But
Speaker 2: I think I think we're bad at a time here.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, but thank you for calling in and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, bearing your soul to us.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I'm just kind of bored.
Speaker 2: Aren't we all? Yeah, thank you, Cat, I'll talk to
Speaker 2: you soon.
Speaker 3: Well do we think that was real?
Speaker 2: Uh? You know what, Tom, I've been doing. I've been
Speaker 2: taking calls with strangers and having people tell me things
Speaker 2: for you know, the uh not not a really long time.
Speaker 2: But I no longer asked that. I don't think any
Speaker 2: I don't think it matters if it was real at
Speaker 2: the end of the day.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess for set.
Speaker 19: You know, reality is just what we perceive exactly, you know,
Speaker 19: if we can. I mean, that was a pretty clear
Speaker 19: picture in our head, so I mean it existed in
Speaker 19: our minds at the.
Speaker 3: Sam, Sam, what's up seeing?
Speaker 12: Oh I'm doing all right. I'm actually pretty new to
Speaker 12: uh the therapy got go? Oh hell yeah apparently got so. Yeah,
Speaker 12: I have.
Speaker 3: A list of prime a whole list.
Speaker 12: I mean, well I don't know about a whole list.
Speaker 2: Well here let me tell you. You know, look, let
Speaker 2: me tell you something about therapy. Gecko is we we
Speaker 2: appreciate you know when people come in prepared. Sam. So,
Speaker 2: I'm glad you made a list.
Speaker 10: Yes.
Speaker 12: Like I said, I'm new, so I don't really know
Speaker 12: a whole lot actually just sub today.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you Bill. Well, what's what's number? What's let's
Speaker 2: let's start at the top. What's what's on What's on
Speaker 2: your list?
Speaker 12: I'd say probably the first was like criminal trespass, that's
Speaker 12: really not that big of a deal.
Speaker 3: Well what what what about criminal trespass? Is there a
Speaker 3: question or just the subject in general?
Speaker 12: Just the subject in general. I never really got convicted
Speaker 12: or anything for it, but when I was seventeen, I
Speaker 12: did get a DUI.
Speaker 2: Has that affected you in your in your later life?
Speaker 12: Yeah, because I couldn't drive until it was like eighteen.
Speaker 12: But then also I also got my license taken away
Speaker 12: again because I had a fake ID when I was
Speaker 12: like eighteen.
Speaker 3: Does did your fake ID have somebody else's name on it?
Speaker 9: Yes?
Speaker 8: My brothers too.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 12: It was also not even the same state. Some old
Speaker 12: man who looks like Santa Claus just took it from
Speaker 12: me at a sketchy gas station.
Speaker 2: But some some random guy he took it from you.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I was like, hey, that's my license, I need it.
Speaker 12: But he scanned it under the machine and it said
Speaker 12: I was a thousand years old, so it didn't work.
Speaker 2: Which which is the thing? And I remember this like
Speaker 2: in high school when people were using fake id's and
Speaker 2: stuff like, which is the one that's worse using like
Speaker 2: like creating a fake person or using someone else's thing?
Speaker 2: Which is the one you get more fun? We'll, we'll,
Speaker 2: we'll both.
Speaker 3: They'd listen here, Yeah, okay, listen chat.
Speaker 19: I'm not advocating for people to get fake IDs. However,
Speaker 19: if you have a fake ID, it's a lot better
Speaker 19: if you use your own name and just fake the
Speaker 19: day of birth, because in the alternative it can be
Speaker 19: identity fraud. And even if you create a name like
Speaker 19: make up a name, odd Dog, there's somebody with that name,
Speaker 19: and that's identity fraud and that can be a lot worse.
Speaker 19: And I actually personally know somebody who kind of was
Speaker 19: in my high school like sphere. I wasn't really you know,
Speaker 19: friends with her, but uh, you know, we would go
Speaker 19: off to college.
Speaker 3: And then a year later he goes, oh did you
Speaker 3: hear so?
Speaker 19: And so I got convicted of a felony for having
Speaker 19: an ID with somebody else's identity.
Speaker 3: I mean that's a bad beat, you know.
Speaker 2: Bad beat.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, no. So also that's that's kind of the
Speaker 12: thing that happened is I went, you know, and then
Speaker 12: the guy who was working at the gas station gave
Speaker 12: it to the police department, and then the police department
Speaker 12: came to my house and then they tried to arrest
Speaker 12: me for impersonation of someone else. But then they realized
Speaker 12: that it was just my brother's fake ID that he
Speaker 12: gave to me after he turned twenty one.
Speaker 2: Oh, so it was your brother's fake ID, but it
Speaker 2: was his It was your brother's brother's real ID that
Speaker 2: he was using.
Speaker 12: Ah, okay, no, no, no, no, it was his brother's
Speaker 12: fake So he got it when he was underage and
Speaker 12: then he just gave it to me because it kind
Speaker 12: of like looked like.
Speaker 2: Hm hm, and your brother got up yeah, free. It
Speaker 2: worked for him.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it worked for him. But then like, well,
Speaker 12: actually his got taken once, but that's a whole nother story.
Speaker 8: So it was like a spare.
Speaker 9: But uh yeah.
Speaker 12: So I was like basically put in the back of
Speaker 12: a cop car and then just they sat me in
Speaker 12: my driveway and they yelled at the police officer and
Speaker 12: also brandished a knife at him. That was like a
Speaker 12: whole another thing.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, your brother brandished a knife at the
Speaker 2: police officer.
Speaker 12: No I did.
Speaker 3: Oh it's not smart. No, it just wasn't a good move.
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
Speaker 12: Well yeah I know it wasn't a good move.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 12: I mean I was drunk at the.
Speaker 2: Time, and I mean, did you did you get arrested
Speaker 2: that night? Did you spend that night in jail?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 12: No, actually I didn't. He actually let me go after
Speaker 12: my mom talked to him.
Speaker 4: Wow, because I was.
Speaker 12: Like eighteen years old in college. I mean, I'm in
Speaker 12: high school.
Speaker 2: Your mom must have the gift of gab.
Speaker 12: I mean she kind of does. I mean I got
Speaker 12: pulled over like maybe like a month ago when I
Speaker 12: was driving back from Colorado after like Thanksgiving.
Speaker 2: How did your mom convince a cop not to arrest
Speaker 2: you after you pulled a knife on him?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 12: Well, it was actually the police officer that kind of
Speaker 12: did did that. He was kind of just like, hey, buddy,
Speaker 12: don't do that ever again. But I took it out
Speaker 12: of my pocket, I plucked it open. So I'm surprised
Speaker 12: he didn't shoot me right then in there.
Speaker 2: That's cow on. I can't believe that he let you
Speaker 2: go after that. He just said, hey, buddy, don't do
Speaker 2: it again.
Speaker 12: Pretty much.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 12: But it was two am. He actually like he came
Speaker 12: to my house. He knocked on my door. I was
Speaker 12: already asleep, like I was drinking all night, and then
Speaker 12: he came to my door. My mom woke me up.
Speaker 12: She's like, put some put some pants on. There's a
Speaker 12: police officer who wants to talk to you. But you know,
Speaker 12: they always liked to stop and ask if you have
Speaker 12: any weapons before you get in the cob car. Okay,
Speaker 12: And so I took out my knife and I flicked
Speaker 12: it open at him, and I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 12: have this knife, but I mean like it was open
Speaker 12: and pointed at him.
Speaker 3: I think we shouldion this, we should probably pivot stories. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's probably let's just let's just recap.
Speaker 19: It with your very fortunate Yes, the same dead for
Speaker 19: a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I mean what what what
Speaker 2: would you say?
Speaker 4: Your name was Sam?
Speaker 2: Sam? What are you? What are you doing now with
Speaker 2: you know, this second chance at life that you've been given?
Speaker 12: Currently nothing. I've been trying to get jobs at a
Speaker 12: job at a bar, but it didn't work out. It
Speaker 12: didn't work out because it didn't show up.
Speaker 3: M that will, that will generally do it. Well, why
Speaker 3: didn't you show up?
Speaker 12: Because it was a very uh toxic workplace environment. I
Speaker 12: was probably working there for like two weeks.
Speaker 2: Oh so why did you apply in the first place?
Speaker 2: Did you not know it was toxic until then?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 12: I mean I didn't. So I worked there for two
Speaker 12: weeks and I was like, hey, this kind of messed up.
Speaker 2: Well what was toxic about?
Speaker 12: Didn't show up?
Speaker 11: Well?
Speaker 3: I think you could do. So was the move not
Speaker 3: showing up? Or do you think you should have just
Speaker 3: let him put him on notice that you're quitting.
Speaker 12: I mean I probably should have told him, but it
Speaker 12: was like the day of like I had an epiphany
Speaker 12: sort of.
Speaker 14: It was actually I was supposed to show.
Speaker 12: Up New Year's Day and I had epiphany this last
Speaker 12: New years.
Speaker 2: An e.
Speaker 12: It was not a good idea. Yeah, yeah, it was
Speaker 12: not a good idea.
Speaker 2: To not show up.
Speaker 12: Yes, because it was a bad job. And also my
Speaker 12: brother kind of talked me out of it.
Speaker 4: So what your name was?
Speaker 2: One more time? Sorry, I'm bad with names, Sam, Sam? Well, Sam, listen,
Speaker 2: as we've established, you've been giving a second chance at life,
Speaker 2: and you know, good luck to you. Hope that you
Speaker 2: spend it wisely and you have a good night.
Speaker 9: My guy.
Speaker 12: Yeah. Also, thank you of course having me be a
Speaker 12: part of this show. And even though it was kind
Speaker 12: of all over the place with all of everything I said,
Speaker 12: I really appreciate it. A lot of your tiktoks. That's
Speaker 12: actually kind of.
Speaker 8: What got me to join.
Speaker 2: Thank you, man, I appreciate Thank you man. You have
Speaker 2: a good night. Sam.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you as well.
Speaker 2: Hello, how are you.
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 2: Can you get can you are you? Can you get
Speaker 2: any closer to the phone.
Speaker 11: I'm at the phone right now.
Speaker 2: What's your name?
Speaker 7: Can you hear me?
Speaker 11: Oh?
Speaker 2: I can hear you? What's your name?
Speaker 11: Caroline.
Speaker 2: Caroline, Caroline, how are you doing? Caroline?
Speaker 11: I am fantastic.
Speaker 15: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing? I'm doing all right. I'm doing all right. Caroline. Uh,
Speaker 2: do you have anything? Do you have a think on
Speaker 2: your that you just want to get off your chest? Caroline?
Speaker 11: Okay, So you guys were this is a lawyer and right,
Speaker 11: and you were asking if you've done any crime. I
Speaker 11: think I have some crimes to admit to.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay.
Speaker 11: Sometimes I scam old men off the internet for money.
Speaker 11: Oh I think that's a crime, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Well hold on, let's let's go into this. Are you
Speaker 3: promising something that you're not delivering on?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. This is why I know.
Speaker 19: Look, I want to be careful with the questions I ask,
Speaker 19: but you know I would think that you know, like,
Speaker 19: are you talking about like a sugar daddy type of site?
Speaker 16: Yeah?
Speaker 14: I okay.
Speaker 11: So I have done like the cam model stuff before,
Speaker 11: and that has given me like a following of old men.
Speaker 11: And sometimes they message me and they're like, hey, i'll
Speaker 11: pay you for this, send it to me. And I'm like,
Speaker 11: all right, send me the money first, and then they
Speaker 11: send me the money on my book.
Speaker 19: Yeah, no, I think, I think, I think under those pretenses,
Speaker 19: that's that's probably a scam. That's I would I would
Speaker 19: even go as far as to say that you have
Speaker 19: an oral contract, if not maybe even a renten contract,
Speaker 19: if it's over text for you know, money in exchange
Speaker 19: for services and you know you're not performing. Now, the
Speaker 19: logical follow up to that is, you know, generally I
Speaker 19: would anticipate nobody wants to follow through with enforcing that
Speaker 19: through because one, it would be embarrassing for them. In two,
Speaker 19: you know, lawyers charge hundreds of dollars an hour. I'm
Speaker 19: not sure how much you're particularly charging, but you know,
Speaker 19: if a lawyer is going to work on a case
Speaker 19: for a minimum of one hundred hours, it would have
Speaker 19: to be a substantial amount of money that you are
Speaker 19: charging for it to make economic sense for them to
Speaker 19: bring a lawsuit against you to enforce. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 19: I think, I think technically what you're doing is scamming.
Speaker 2: But now these services, like these services that you are
Speaker 2: claiming that you are are are promising but not delivering.
Speaker 2: There are there are they in the first place? Legal services?
Speaker 2: Are they legal services?
Speaker 18: I don't know, I'm.
Speaker 11: Not sure about the laws on that and stuff.
Speaker 14: I probably should where I do it, right, but.
Speaker 3: Well, it's like only fans is legal.
Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, you know, so long as you're you know,
Speaker 19: an adult, which you are, and the other person's an adult,
Speaker 19: and you know it's all in exchange over phone, you know,
Speaker 19: like you know in some some states you know, like
Speaker 19: you know, not to get too into it, but you know,
Speaker 19: like in Nevada, like prostitution, right, but that's I'm pretty
Speaker 19: sure the only state where that's illegal. But we're not
Speaker 19: talking about that. Hey, my girlfriends, we're talking about only fans.
Speaker 19: We're talking about only fans in prostitution.
Speaker 2: Al Rachel, how are you.
Speaker 15: So?
Speaker 2: She came at? She came at a good time. Hello
Speaker 2: the So. So you you were into cam you weren
Speaker 2: into cam modeling, but you got out of it.
Speaker 11: Yeah. I did it for a while and then I
Speaker 11: got out of it and I had a boyfriend. I
Speaker 11: was like, you can't do that. So I was like, okay,
Speaker 11: whatever because I was done. And then I grew up
Speaker 11: with him and now I have a lovely girlfriend and
Speaker 11: she sometimes helps me out with these acts. I don't
Speaker 11: do it like all the time, and I don't do
Speaker 11: it for like large amounts of money. It's just whenever
Speaker 11: I'm like feeling a little crazy and somebody DMed me
Speaker 11: and they're like, can I get this?
Speaker 21: You know what I mean?
Speaker 11: Just occasionally. It's not all the time, but it is,
Speaker 11: I think the only crime that I have.
Speaker 2: But if so, if you have like a bunch of
Speaker 2: what I'm curious about is if you have a bunch
Speaker 2: of followers, like are you are you still doing like
Speaker 2: not like scamming people like actual like cam model then
Speaker 2: like OnlyFans or anything.
Speaker 11: Okay, I did it was it was just like a
Speaker 11: cam It was just like a cam site. Yeah, So
Speaker 11: I don't do it as much anymore because and then
Speaker 11: it's a campsite. And then I stopped doing it, and
Speaker 11: then I started doing it again, but some of them
Speaker 11: found out my Instagram somehow. Also, I just have some
Speaker 11: creepy men that's all on my Instagram and asked for
Speaker 11: things because creepy men often do that to young women
Speaker 11: on social media.
Speaker 2: So are you are you glad to be you know,
Speaker 2: out of out of this this uh world of caning.
Speaker 6: I'm sort of indifferent to it.
Speaker 15: Really.
Speaker 11: I I was fine with it, and then I found
Speaker 11: out one day, I don't know why I didn't know this,
Speaker 11: but I looked up my user name and I I
Speaker 11: looked at my username and and the images of just
Speaker 11: like everything, and I was like, I have got to
Speaker 11: I can't do this anymore because I also use my
Speaker 11: user name for like other I don't know, like just sits.
Speaker 11: Where are like like my private snapshot or likes that
Speaker 11: I have? And I was like, I cannot do this anymore.
Speaker 11: So I don't want her gababies to scene. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 11: with my girlfriend right now. Actually, she okay, so we
Speaker 11: have both calling the number a lot.
Speaker 20: She finally caught it.
Speaker 2: What's what I want to hear about her crimes as well?
Speaker 11: Okay, here's Lily.
Speaker 22: I mean, I don't really have any crimes. I think
Speaker 22: she's she's the wide one, and I kind of I
Speaker 22: kind of mother her.
Speaker 2: You're more of an accomplished type.
Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean, like I like, I'm I guess I'm
Speaker 22: more of like the I'm younger, but I'm more of
Speaker 22: like the older one. I tell her to like clean
Speaker 22: her room and stuff. But the ironic thing, the ironic
Speaker 22: thing about it is that I call her mommy.
Speaker 21: And what I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I can hear the embarrassment in her voice from here, I'm.
Speaker 21: Gonna getublem Sorry you publicly apologize to her that I
Speaker 21: said that. To how many people are on this, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: It's okay.
Speaker 19: There's only like four hundred and sixty people, and I
Speaker 19: promise you it's only like seventy percent chance of that
Speaker 19: getting clipped, of course.
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't mind.
Speaker 21: I don't think honestly, nobody knows who we are.
Speaker 22: Sometimes you make PI talks about it, though, so that's
Speaker 22: pay back. Okay, Sorry, that's all right, I don't mind.
Speaker 21: I like the attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm glad that you you guys seem
Speaker 2: like you have a good uh you have a very
Speaker 2: well oiled conflict resolution machine between you two you. I
Speaker 2: feel like you guys resolved that dispute fairly quickly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a healthy relationship.
Speaker 2: Don't definitely, But.
Speaker 11: We like never fight.
Speaker 21: Maybe that's a bad thing.
Speaker 23: Oh my god, do you.
Speaker 2: Think you think that's you think that's a bad thing
Speaker 2: that you guys never fights? Is that is that you
Speaker 2: do you consider that to be healthy in a relationship
Speaker 2: having you.
Speaker 22: Know, I don't know, it's not, but we you know,
Speaker 22: we've only been dating for like five months.
Speaker 15: There hasn't been like an issue big enough for our
Speaker 15: argument like it would it would not be healthy if
Speaker 15: we had an issue that was argument worthy and you
Speaker 15: just like sort of shoved it down.
Speaker 22: Yeah, like I don't and I'm just not going to
Speaker 22: argue with you. I'm just gonna like, listen, I'm being
Speaker 22: all right. I'm just too chilled up for that. But
Speaker 22: we're afraid about what our first fight will be. We
Speaker 22: like guess what we think it'll be, and like it
Speaker 22: will start it like we're kind of worried about it.
Speaker 2: I had five months is is is pretty good for
Speaker 2: you know, no fights.
Speaker 22: Thanks, we appreciate it. So we'll see maybe maybe if
Speaker 22: we have a fight, will product come on and tell
Speaker 22: you about it.
Speaker 3: We'll try to mediate it.
Speaker 24: Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: We got to do that. The couple's canceling night.
Speaker 22: Oh my god, that would be such a good idea.
Speaker 2: Couples counseling, couples counseling. Well, uh, Caroline, Lily, thank you
Speaker 2: guys for for calling in and uh, you know, I
Speaker 2: wish you. I wish you to all the happiness in
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 22: Thank you.
Speaker 2: By can I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so so that's totally scamming. You know, it's totally yeah.
Speaker 3: I was I was hesitant at the beginning. You know,
Speaker 3: I thought, maybe she's going with the direction, like you know,
Speaker 3: she's like just flirting with these old guys and they
Speaker 3: just throw money at her. And you know I would
Speaker 3: have said, that's the old guys problem, you know. But right,
Speaker 3: but but she was promising photos or services and you know,
Speaker 3: just took their mind even blocked.
Speaker 2: But you I mean, but you, I mean you you
Speaker 2: were totally correct when you're like, well, all right, who's
Speaker 2: who's going to go to a uh you know, file
Speaker 2: a lawsuit against someone for not you know, sending them right?
Speaker 3: Totally It's it's totally unrealistic, you know, on the civil
Speaker 3: side for somebody to go through that process, you know,
Speaker 3: be embarrassing, it be expensive, and you're probably only arguing
Speaker 3: over like, you know, a few hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: You know. I do wonder if if there's gotta be
Speaker 2: someone who does who's not embarrassed at all, who who
Speaker 2: uh has there's gotta have been a lawsuit about that
Speaker 2: at some point.
Speaker 3: I bet, yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 19: I'm just playing the statistics, you know, you know, there's
Speaker 19: probably some guy, you know, like there's been people who
Speaker 19: have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars suing over like
Speaker 19: one hundred dollars, like, you know, it's the principle of
Speaker 19: the matter, like that kind of thing. So if somebody
Speaker 19: really had you know, had it out for miss Caroline,
Speaker 19: you know, but I mean, come on, let's get real,
Speaker 19: and then if that ever happened, Caroline could just be like, yeah,
Speaker 19: here's your money back, go away, you.
Speaker 2: Know, right right, So she's she's got a good thing going.
Speaker 2: Not that I endorse any illegal activity of any kind. Hey,
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Speaker 10: All from John.
Speaker 8: John John, Hey Gecko, How are you man?
Speaker 2: I'm all right? How are you, John.
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 6: I'm hanging in there.
Speaker 2: And where?
Speaker 8: Oh well, I'm in the part of the US.
Speaker 4: Man, Wyoming, Kansas?
Speaker 2: Do you like Kansas?
Speaker 8: I've been in better places?
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 8: You know what a third culture kid is?
Speaker 2: What third culture culture kid?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, what is a third culture kid?
Speaker 8: That's a child who has grown up in a country
Speaker 8: other than their parents origin or the nationality in which
Speaker 8: they are. So I just wanted to tell you a story. Man,
Speaker 8: I caught to you about I don't know an hour ago.
Speaker 4: Please, yeah, can I go?
Speaker 8: I'm sorry you got something.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, don't be sorry. You want to tell
Speaker 2: me a story.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you've been giving me theraphy since I was eight. Man,
Speaker 8: I'm a forty five year old man, and you have
Speaker 8: taken me back to a time that brings me joy.
Speaker 8: It was scary when I was seven and my parents
Speaker 8: told me we're moving to Africa. We were leaving Nebraska.
Speaker 8: My dad wanted to be a missionary, and we got
Speaker 8: to Liberia five days before I turned eight. And the
Speaker 8: first night we were there, we went to our new
Speaker 8: home and up in the corner of the room was
Speaker 8: a gecko. And my mom got my sister and she
Speaker 8: was four, and said, hey, we got a pet. It's
Speaker 8: a get go. Look what should we name it? And
Speaker 8: we named it Peter, and we were like, all right, cool.
Speaker 8: We lived there for a couple of days and we
Speaker 8: moved to a new house and in the new house
Speaker 8: there was a gecko. Because this is tropical West Africa
Speaker 8: and there's a gecko in every room in every house.
Speaker 8: But I didn't know that because I was seven, and
Speaker 8: my mom says, look, there's a gecko. It's a repeat.
Speaker 8: And so being seven, growing up overseas in a strange
Speaker 8: foreign country, I got comfort every time I went somewhere
Speaker 8: and I saw get go. It's the weirdest thing. Man,
Speaker 8: I may be crazy, but I just caught you to night.
Speaker 8: Thought i'd listen in and try to give you a
Speaker 8: call and tell you my story. That's all I got
Speaker 8: for you.
Speaker 2: Man, tell me what is it about these geckos that
Speaker 2: give you comfort? They reminded you of oh that time?
Speaker 8: No, yeah, yeah, well we always called geckos repeats now
Speaker 8: my family, so we got little like stuff being back
Speaker 8: geckos and stuff that we've got from you know, mementos
Speaker 8: and things like that. But it was just being seven
Speaker 8: and having been uprooted growing up and you know, the
Speaker 8: middle of the country in the US, and then all
Speaker 8: of a sudden you're flying like three thousand miles across
Speaker 8: the world and you land in this country seven degrees
Speaker 8: north of the equator and it's ninety eight degrees all
Speaker 8: day every day, and you walk out and you've got
Speaker 8: no friends. Everybody everybody's African, you're white. You know, you're
Speaker 8: just this little kid and having some continuity in their life.
Speaker 8: You know, it wasn't a big deal. It's not really
Speaker 8: a big deal. It's just cool that you know you're
Speaker 8: up to get go and it took me back, but.
Speaker 17: I love that you.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right. My mom, you know, firston to hear me.
Speaker 8: She gave it to me.
Speaker 2: Do you do you think of that every time you
Speaker 2: see it? I mean, I don't know how often you
Speaker 2: see a geck go out in the wild before you
Speaker 2: know the stream, But do you think of that every
Speaker 2: time you see a gecko out in the wild?
Speaker 16: Oh?
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's totally a family joke, you know.
Speaker 8: So every time I see a geck go, I think back.
Speaker 3: How long?
Speaker 2: How long were you in Liberia for?
Speaker 8: I got there five days before I turned eight, and
Speaker 8: I was there and at Christmas in eighty nine when
Speaker 8: the Civil War broke out, you know, we had just left.
Speaker 8: We got the call five days at Christmas, basically when
Speaker 8: the rebels came in the country. We got the phone call.
Speaker 8: And I'm in ninth grade and my parents go, hey, John, safety,
Speaker 8: that's my sister. They said there's been a coup. The
Speaker 8: rebels have come in from member county and they're trying,
Speaker 8: you know, they're marching on the capitol. And as a
Speaker 8: kid growing up, you know, in school, we had a
Speaker 8: coup every year, like it was, you know, once or
Speaker 8: twice a year, somebody had cut over through the government.
Speaker 8: We'd wake up in the morning, they'd do it. No
Speaker 8: school today. We'd be like, oh, it's a snow day,
Speaker 8: you know, like, no school, We're going back tomorrow, right.
Speaker 8: But that civil war, man, that worker, I don't know
Speaker 8: if you know the history of Liberia at all, since
Speaker 8: eighty nine, From nineteen eighty nine till two thousand and five,
Speaker 8: that country was in civil war. So I lost all
Speaker 8: my friends that I grew up with over there. You know.
Speaker 8: I got a few American friends obviously, and international friends
Speaker 8: from there, but the village kid I grew up with
Speaker 8: were all and who knows what happened to them.
Speaker 2: Did you have friends that were killed?
Speaker 8: I'm sure there probably were, man, But I was living
Speaker 8: close enough to the capital city that pretty much everybody
Speaker 8: came from the interior of the country to the capital city.
Speaker 8: So the fighting arrived eventually, but by then it was
Speaker 8: pretty much a done deal. It wasn't. I don't think
Speaker 8: any of my friends ended up being child soldiers or
Speaker 8: actually being killed at all, but it is quite possible.
Speaker 2: Good, So you were there, So let's see. So let
Speaker 2: you left in ninth grade.
Speaker 8: Right, left in ninth grade. Fully expected to go back
Speaker 8: in the next three years of high school in Liberia
Speaker 8: before I'd graduated come back to the States. But because
Speaker 8: the war broke out, my parents got reassigned and I
Speaker 8: ended up in Nigeria instead.
Speaker 2: She stayed in Africa. He didn't go back to When
Speaker 2: When did you eventually go back to the US.
Speaker 8: I came back to the States for college, but from
Speaker 8: third grade all the way through the end of high school,
Speaker 8: man I was in I was in Libera in Nigeria,
Speaker 8: left Africa for all but sixteen months.
Speaker 2: Wow, what was it like coming back from What was
Speaker 2: it like going to the US from Africa? And like,
Speaker 2: you know, still you know, you're you're you know you're
Speaker 2: white and you have a you know, American accent, but
Speaker 2: you know, you're the culture is still you know, different.
Speaker 8: A lot of people have Yeah, a lot of people
Speaker 8: have a lot of trouble with that. There's a lot
Speaker 8: of missionary kids to have trouble with that. I didn't.
Speaker 8: I'm a bit of a chameleon. I kind of fit
Speaker 8: in everywhere.
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, you had less trouble you you say
Speaker 2: you so you would consider yourself adaptable in general.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, absolutely inflexible, there's no question about that.
Speaker 9: M h.
Speaker 8: Yeah. I go anywhere. I got friends all over the world,
Speaker 8: all different nationalities, all different races, all different religious backgrounds.
Speaker 8: You know, my parents like, you know, I heard you
Speaker 8: talking about your bar Mitzvah and you hadn't talked to God.
Speaker 8: I pretty much don't go to church anymore either. Then
Speaker 8: I grew up in the on the mission field.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, is that a conscious decision? Did you decide
Speaker 2: to leave the church for a particular reason?
Speaker 8: Not really a little bit of its blowback what happened
Speaker 8: with my dad though he had been working and born
Speaker 8: his you know, soul into theological education, that extension, which
Speaker 8: is a program of taking seminary classes to leaders of
Speaker 8: churches that couldn't come to seminary and they basically, well
Speaker 8: they asked that program, asked her about fifteen years of
Speaker 8: him doing it, and the way they handled it wasn't
Speaker 8: very impressive. He he and he left the mission field,
Speaker 8: came back to the States, and you know he pastors
Speaker 8: a small church now here in campus, thirty eight people.
Speaker 2: But how does he feel about the fact that you
Speaker 2: don't go to church anymore?
Speaker 8: Well, he's not happy about it, but you know, he's
Speaker 8: like for me to come with him. But you know,
Speaker 8: he's go to the church, but I don't. But they
Speaker 8: don't bug me about it.
Speaker 2: It's because they don't bug you about it. What do
Speaker 2: you what do you do now?
Speaker 8: Oh, I'm in corporate finance. I look at mergers and acquisitions.
Speaker 8: I'm trying toigure out how to finance power plant solar
Speaker 8: power plants in a regulated utility environment. It's pretty boring,
Speaker 8: very mass and finance based. But it is what I do.
Speaker 8: My talent and Joe Numbers always asked, do you.
Speaker 2: Does what you do? Do you feel? I mean you
Speaker 2: use you? You know where else have you spent extended
Speaker 2: amounts of time in besides Africa? You said you have
Speaker 2: friends all over the world. Or was it that you
Speaker 2: had like friends in Africa that then went all over
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 8: Well, yeah that they I met them all in Library
Speaker 8: and Nigeria. But when you get to school, every semester
Speaker 8: pretty much. Twenty five percent of the class is new.
Speaker 8: You know, people are going on furlough, they're coming back
Speaker 8: after a year being gone, that sort of thing. So
Speaker 8: you're always constantly making new friends and losing friends. I mean,
Speaker 8: the only constant in your life is the fact that
Speaker 8: your friends are going to change. People are going to
Speaker 8: come and go from your life. That's just it. That's
Speaker 8: just the way it is. I don't have the only
Speaker 8: you asked another caller, how many you know, close friends
Speaker 8: you had? I had one. He passed away in Hawaii,
Speaker 8: drunk one night and high and jumped off the edge
Speaker 8: of the east east side of the Big Islands and drowned.
Speaker 2: Sorry to hear that, Yeah, I.
Speaker 8: Appreciate it was, you know, eighteen years ago. But but yeah,
Speaker 8: people come and go. You know, you make fast friends.
Speaker 8: When you see him again ten years later, you pick
Speaker 8: up like it never happened, like you know, you know,
Speaker 8: you never missed him totally. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Do you are you married?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 8: Going through a divorce? Man?
Speaker 2: So sorry to hear that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate it. Yes, I am there. I got
Speaker 8: two kids. They're wonderful. One's a senior in high school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have they been. Uh uh Are they well traveled?
Speaker 2: Did you take them around different places? Did you have
Speaker 2: you taken your kids back to, like Africa to show
Speaker 2: them sort of where you grew up.
Speaker 8: I have not yet. The last time I was in
Speaker 8: Africa was in nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, Well what were you doing back there?
Speaker 8: Well? I graduated from high college and my sister was
Speaker 8: graduated from high school, so I went back for her
Speaker 8: college high school graduation. Nice o, good, that's the last time.
Speaker 8: It was a lot different back then. Man. I was
Speaker 8: a little nine year old white kid running around Monrovia, Liberia,
Speaker 8: seven degrees north of the equator, where everybody is everybody's black,
Speaker 8: and they watched out for the little kids, you know,
Speaker 8: they watched out for the little white kid. They didn't,
Speaker 8: you know, have people trying to kidnap you and hold
Speaker 8: you for ransom. That's what's happening out there now. You know,
Speaker 8: it's a horrible place to be, But it wasn't like
Speaker 8: that when I was there in the eighties. When people
Speaker 8: say where are you from, John, I always go how
Speaker 8: far back do you want me to go? Because my
Speaker 8: dad was still in the Navy when I was born
Speaker 8: in Iceland, so it is a story journey.
Speaker 12: I've been on.
Speaker 2: Do you do you aspire in the future, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, after sort of being planted in Kansas, do
Speaker 2: you aspire to travel again once you know they're killing us?
Speaker 8: Yeah? No, no kidding, man, Uh yes, I want to.
Speaker 8: I want to go all over the place again. I'm
Speaker 8: getting start crazy, there's no doubt.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for thank you for sharing this, this,
Speaker 2: this story, This is incredibly interesting.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate it. Man, thanks for doing a shout.
Speaker 8: It's really cool.
Speaker 2: Oh of course you would you say your name was
Speaker 2: again John John John?
Speaker 8: Yeah, Ji Jim John.
Speaker 2: Well, dude, thank you, thank you again for and man,
Speaker 2: I appreciate you being you know, sharing what you shared
Speaker 2: with us.
Speaker 8: Yeah, man, my pleasure, enjoy it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, man. Have a good night.
Speaker 10: All from Olivia.
Speaker 17: Olivia.
Speaker 2: Hello, what's your confession? Olivia?
Speaker 18: I don't like my roommate too much?
Speaker 2: Why don't you like your roommate?
Speaker 18: I think it's just that we're living in such a
Speaker 18: small space and I'm not very social. It feels like,
Speaker 18: you know, I'm forced to have social interactions constantly when
Speaker 18: like I would rather not.
Speaker 2: Is it that you don't like your roommate, or you
Speaker 2: just don't like to socialize.
Speaker 18: Maybe I just don't like to socialize, but maybe part
Speaker 18: of it is because she does like to socialize, So
Speaker 18: that makes me not like her as much.
Speaker 2: Does she like? Do you think she gets upset with
Speaker 2: you for not wanting to talk to her?
Speaker 18: I don't know. I'm not you see, I'm not good
Speaker 18: at I'm not good at reading peaceful.
Speaker 2: You know, how did you two meet?
Speaker 18: We were paired as roommates as I'm in college, and
Speaker 18: we were paired as freshmen. We just like stuck together,
Speaker 18: so you know, it was etfort. It was like she's
Speaker 18: I mean, she is sort of one of my only friends,
Speaker 18: but at college. But it just gets tiring, you know,
Speaker 18: living with someone for so long, things little things start
Speaker 18: to build up.
Speaker 2: You know, Oh, tell me about these little things.
Speaker 18: This is gonna sound sort of petty or maybe self centered.
Speaker 18: But I started feeling like she's like copying me, Like
Speaker 18: she used to only listen to one kind of music,
Speaker 18: and then she started following on me on Spotify, and
Speaker 18: now all she listens to is like my music. Is
Speaker 18: that petty?
Speaker 2: Is it petty of her to only listen to her music?
Speaker 17: Or is.
Speaker 18: Of me to care.
Speaker 2: Why do you care?
Speaker 18: Maybe it's a bit of a maybe it's a bit
Speaker 18: of a you know, hipster superiority kind of thing that
Speaker 18: I need to work myself, work on myself to deal with.
Speaker 18: But I do, I feel like I have all these
Speaker 18: like eclectic music, and she used to listen to like
Speaker 18: classic rock basically exclusively.
Speaker 2: I don't know, do do you?
Speaker 17: Well?
Speaker 2: I'm curious why, you know, even if even if the idea,
Speaker 2: even if the truth is that she did get it
Speaker 2: from you, have you considered you know, viewing it, you know,
Speaker 2: sort of more flattery, right.
Speaker 18: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have, I have. It's just,
Speaker 18: you know, I think it's just one of those things
Speaker 18: where when you live with someone, and especially now because
Speaker 18: we don't like, we don't go anywhere ever, and I just,
Speaker 18: you know, I hear in the shower and she's listening
Speaker 18: to like the same three songs over and over. And
Speaker 18: there's songs that I know that I like that I
Speaker 18: kind of don't like anymore because she listens to them
Speaker 18: so much.
Speaker 2: Why why does her listening to them? Is it is
Speaker 2: do you not like them? Because she started listening to them?
Speaker 18: No, I mean, it's just from hearing them so much.
Speaker 18: I guess.
Speaker 2: I've never really understood why like people's people view an
Speaker 2: art thing differently because of the other people that like
Speaker 2: that thing.
Speaker 18: Yeah, I see what you mean. Yeah, I guess I mean.
Speaker 6: It.
Speaker 18: I mean, but hearing the same thing over and over,
Speaker 18: you know that's gonna bother anyone. I think, like I'll
Speaker 18: ruin songs for myself from listening to them too many times.
Speaker 2: What is your behavior like to your roommate? Do you
Speaker 2: ignore her I'd christ to talk to you.
Speaker 18: No, I don't ignore her. I'll say something, but I'll
Speaker 18: try to say it in a way that indicates I
Speaker 18: don't really want to talk right now, and right now
Speaker 18: is most of the time like but that, I mean,
Speaker 18: that's kind of how I am with a lot of
Speaker 18: people actually, like, oh, what are you working on? And
Speaker 18: I'll just like say what it is and then you
Speaker 18: know nothing else.
Speaker 2: Do you have a lot of friends or do you
Speaker 2: have at least a small group of friends.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 18: Most of them are from high school though, so I
Speaker 18: don't see them very much anymore. But at college, I've
Speaker 18: only made like two or three real friends.
Speaker 6: Two or three is.
Speaker 3: Pretty good, I think, So.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I've never thought friendships should be measured
Speaker 2: in uh quantity anyway, joined the rest of your college.
Speaker 18: Experience, well, it's been kind of ruined. I'm about to graduate,
Speaker 18: so like a big chunk of my time's been trashed.
Speaker 2: Basically, what's next for you? Olivia?
Speaker 18: Who knows? My parents I think want me to go
Speaker 18: to some kind of grad school, but too late to
Speaker 18: apply to that for next year, so I'll have to
Speaker 18: at least take one gap year, which I'm looking forward to.
Speaker 2: What are you going to do during the gap year?
Speaker 18: I don't know, apply to some kind of internship or something.
Speaker 18: I would like to travel somewhere.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 18: I'm just sick of school, honestly, I just feel like
Speaker 18: I need a break from it.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, school sucks. I'm very grateful that I never
Speaker 2: have to go to school ever again.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 18: I mean I've always been good at it. I just
Speaker 18: I'm just so worn out from it.
Speaker 17: Well, I love it.
Speaker 2: I wish you the best of luck and whatever endeavor
Speaker 2: you decide to pursue next.
Speaker 18: Thank you so much, Get go. I love you, of course.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Olivia. I talk to you soon. Thank
Speaker 2: you for sharing.
Speaker 10: All From Megan.
Speaker 9: Megan gag hi hi.
Speaker 20: So I had to look up statue of limitations before
Speaker 20: I talked, before I told you about my confession.
Speaker 2: What are the statue of limitations?
Speaker 20: Well, statue limitations is how long I have before I
Speaker 20: could get in trouble for something, or before I can
Speaker 20: no longer get in trouble for something.
Speaker 2: How long has it been?
Speaker 20: It's been twenty years.
Speaker 2: What's been twenty years.
Speaker 20: Since I had committed identity fraud?
Speaker 2: Why did you can identity fraud?
Speaker 20: Well, it wasn't like I made this big plan to
Speaker 20: do it. I had some friends that did something stupid
Speaker 20: and they stole like some chick's wallet when they were
Speaker 20: helping her change her tire, and she was like, I'll
Speaker 20: dry kits the whole long story. Nonetheless, we went to
Speaker 20: the mall the next day and spent somebody's money and
Speaker 20: I still felt guilty for it because it wasn't really
Speaker 20: obviously mine. Excuse me, and all we got was like
Speaker 20: stupid shit, Like went to the gap?
Speaker 2: What did you get at the gap?
Speaker 20: I got a really cute, like white sun dress. It's
Speaker 20: weird that I can still remember that, probably because they
Speaker 20: still feel guilty.
Speaker 2: What's the most expensive thing you bought with this woman's
Speaker 2: credit card was a.
Speaker 20: Pair of Doc Martin boots that were like one hundred
Speaker 20: and twenty bucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened with all the rest of the stuff?
Speaker 2: Did you ever give it back?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 20: No, I don't even know who the person was. It
Speaker 20: wasn't even in the town I lived in. My friend
Speaker 20: and I had like gone over and visited some dudes,
Speaker 20: and then they did that, and then we went to
Speaker 20: a mall on their way back to transporting us home,
Speaker 20: and so like I just had those boots for a
Speaker 20: while and that dressed for a while and felt guilty,
Speaker 20: and like the other people bought other stuff too, but
Speaker 20: it was all just frivil of shit that you buy
Speaker 20: when you're eighteen, stupid shit.
Speaker 2: What was the sort of spectrum of feeling bad about it?
Speaker 2: I assumed that in a group of friends spending another
Speaker 2: person's credit card, there's probably one friend who like feels
Speaker 2: extremely guilty about it, yeah, and another friend who is
Speaker 2: so excited that they get to spend someone else's money,
Speaker 2: and yeah, you know, sort of a spectra of people
Speaker 2: in between. Is that accurate at all?
Speaker 20: I would say probably. I think I was probably the
Speaker 20: one that was more worried about like spending this for
Speaker 20: you know, freaking out about, oh my gosh, what if
Speaker 20: you know, like kind of secretly hoping that this woman
Speaker 20: had already canceled them. They said she was shit, how
Speaker 20: drunk when they ended up taking her wallet. That's a
Speaker 20: other stupid story, but like I really felt bad about it,
Speaker 20: and so to think about it, I think it probably
Speaker 20: spent like three hundred bucks. And the dudes we were with,
Speaker 20: they were the ones that were like super excited about,
Speaker 20: you know, and it was back when they still had
Speaker 20: sam Goodies and shit.
Speaker 6: So they're buying like CDs.
Speaker 2: What did the guys. What was the most expensive things
Speaker 2: the guys bought?
Speaker 20: Oh god, I can't even remember, like electronic shit, I'm
Speaker 20: sure because we all just kind of split up with
Speaker 20: our cards.
Speaker 2: So how did this end? That you ever get the
Speaker 2: cards back?
Speaker 20: No, we actually like broke them into pieces, like little
Speaker 20: tiny pieces and then threw them out the window down
Speaker 20: the freeway.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 20: Yeah, it was twenty years ago. I still felt really bad.
Speaker 2: Which freeway. Maybe someone will come along and blow them
Speaker 2: back together.
Speaker 20: Because the statue of delimitations is up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, she's probably canceled them by now.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna hope.
Speaker 20: I mean, like they found this woman in a ditch,
Speaker 20: like drunk as a skunk. Yeah, Like the dudes we
Speaker 20: were with, they were out cruising around.
Speaker 22: I don't know.
Speaker 20: I think they were probably like going to the gas
Speaker 20: station and get us.
Speaker 6: We're finding someone to buy his beer.
Speaker 20: We were all eighteen, and they rolled up on this
Speaker 20: chick kind in the ditch because of weather, and so
Speaker 20: they got out to help her, and she was just like,
Speaker 20: I mean, she was trying to hand them like money
Speaker 20: and stuff, and she's like, oh, I'm so sorry. Thanks
Speaker 20: you're not telling you know, like doing the thanks for
Speaker 20: not telling me what, Thanks for hoping me get my
Speaker 20: car out so she could drive home. And then I
Speaker 20: don't know what why they felt the need to just
Speaker 20: take her wallet or wallet or whatever it was, you know,
Speaker 20: like what in that moment, she was trying to be nice,
Speaker 20: she was thankful with they. You know, I don't know,
Speaker 20: I'm not a psychologists. I can't decide why they did that.
Speaker 2: But wow, so they just kind of stole this drunk
Speaker 2: woman's yeah, wallets and then let's drive home.
Speaker 20: Yeah right, Wow, maybe that's the real issue.
Speaker 2: Do you feel as though you've done enough in the
Speaker 2: past twenty years to repent for your involvement in this.
Speaker 20: Yes, I actually do, but it's weird to still feel guilty.
Speaker 20: I like work in social services, you know, I do
Speaker 20: all those kind of things, advocate, you know. I won't
Speaker 20: go into that and get political. But I feel like
Speaker 20: I've given back a lot in the work.
Speaker 6: That I do, so.
Speaker 20: But I still really guilty.
Speaker 6: It's kind of weird.
Speaker 20: Like I saw my husband, I was, I wonder if.
Speaker 23: I should confess to that.
Speaker 6: I appreciate that.
Speaker 9: Thanks.
Speaker 7: Gay.
Speaker 20: Really enjoyed your stream last night for Valentine's Day. Thanks
Speaker 20: for sharing that with us.
Speaker 2: Of course, Megan, thank you so much for going in
Speaker 2: to confess.
Speaker 20: Thank you. You have a good night, you too.
Speaker 4: All from Phil, Phil.
Speaker 6: All from.
Speaker 4: Behind?
Speaker 8: Oh wow, I got through it. Did you.
Speaker 6: Have your neck goloring?
Speaker 2: It's going all right? I was your night going?
Speaker 9: Phil?
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm eating dinner.
Speaker 2: What's for dinner? Phil?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 6: Enchilada, rice empan.
Speaker 2: Did you make it or did you buy it?
Speaker 8: I bought it?
Speaker 2: You bored you? Where'd you buy it from?
Speaker 6: I'm Mexican restaurant down the street.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good man. For a second, I thought you
Speaker 2: were like the kind of dude that like makes enchiladas
Speaker 2: for himself and I was about to be really impressed.
Speaker 8: Oh no, I don't know how to go.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to cook either. It's hard. It's
Speaker 2: too hard.
Speaker 6: It's too hard, too much, it chires too much energy.
Speaker 2: Do you have a lot of energy?
Speaker 6: It depends on the dad right now, Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 16: So, h.
Speaker 10: M hmm.
Speaker 2: What's your confession?
Speaker 6: So I was thinking about it while I was following you,
Speaker 6: and I used to be a bully in middle school.
Speaker 17: Actually used to be a bully.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think about it sometimes. Or did you just random?
Speaker 6: I was part of a group of friends that I'm
Speaker 6: going to behave the best and they would occasionally make
Speaker 6: fun of someone in our own group of friends. Now
Speaker 6: that I set that out loud, actually they were not
Speaker 6: friends because they were kind of passboards.
Speaker 10: M m m hm hm.
Speaker 2: At the end of this, so you're going to reveal
Speaker 2: that you were the one that got bullied.
Speaker 6: No, I actually bullied someone with the other people.
Speaker 2: What were your transgressions? Shout guys, sorry, what were your transgressions?
Speaker 2: Well not what were your transgressions?
Speaker 6: What's transgression?
Speaker 2: What were your transgressions?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 5: Sorry.
Speaker 6: They would just make fun of people, and in order
Speaker 6: to shuit in, I would as well.
Speaker 2: Tell me about this guy that you made fun of.
Speaker 7: Uh So.
Speaker 6: I don't want to say his name. Let's call him
Speaker 6: John Doe.
Speaker 2: He said, what is called what? John Delle?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: You say John Doe?
Speaker 26: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I don't want to say his name.
Speaker 17: Oh okay.
Speaker 6: But one thing that always stands out to me is
Speaker 6: that one time he shaved his head and came back
Speaker 6: to school and we were sitting at lunch table and
Speaker 6: we all started making fun of him, say he had cancers.
Speaker 6: I was pretty fucked up to say, but again, just
Speaker 6: trying to fit in, I went along with it.
Speaker 2: When's the last time you saw John?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 6: Twenty ten?
Speaker 2: Twenty ten?
Speaker 6: Because I was tenth grade and I moved away.
Speaker 2: Do you know where John is now? Do you know
Speaker 2: what he's doing?
Speaker 6: I randomly look him up on Facebook and Instagram. He
Speaker 6: doesn't post much, but who's under?
Speaker 2: How's he doing? From what you can tell?
Speaker 6: From what I can tell, he's doing all right. It's
Speaker 6: hard to tell them because I'm not his bridal Facebook
Speaker 6: or Instagram. I just view whatever is public.
Speaker 2: What about the other people, These these people that you
Speaker 2: were friends with that you were that you were making
Speaker 2: fun of this kid with. And how many other guys
Speaker 2: were there in this group?
Speaker 6: Mm? Two in total, including me and John Doe the
Speaker 6: sixth six?
Speaker 2: Uh. Do you keep me contact with any of these guys?
Speaker 6: I don't because my parents knew how how mischievous. I
Speaker 6: can't say how bad did he and they actually didn't
Speaker 6: like me hanging out with them, so as soon as
Speaker 6: we moved away, it was hard to go back to
Speaker 6: that town to visit and hang out with them and
Speaker 6: went on.
Speaker 2: Have you coped in contact with any of them online?
Speaker 6: No? Sometimes I feel them, like like my Instagram stories
Speaker 6: or Instagram posts, But other than that, I don't really
Speaker 6: talk to them.
Speaker 2: I'll ask you what I asked. I forget her name.
Speaker 2: But do you feel like you've personally done enough? You know,
Speaker 2: by your own definition?
Speaker 4: Two?
Speaker 2: Repent for this in the time.
Speaker 6: Since it happened, No, I don't think so. I never
Speaker 6: talked to them ever again. And it's really weird. It's
Speaker 6: just I randomly start thinking about him, and I feel
Speaker 6: like shit when I do, because I knew it was
Speaker 6: wrong to do, but I still did it.
Speaker 2: Is repenting for this appealing or interesting or a goal
Speaker 2: of yours in any way, shape or form.
Speaker 6: I would love to, but I've never had the nerve
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 2: So what about in ways that don't involve direct contact
Speaker 2: with the person?
Speaker 6: I wouldn't even know what. I wouldn't fell like asking
Speaker 6: someone else to say that I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: No, just like h I don't know giving someone else
Speaker 2: at the dollar.
Speaker 6: You know what's funny, I'm actually actually working in the
Speaker 6: medical field and I work with cancer vision now, and
Speaker 6: I don't know if, like sub consciously I made that
Speaker 6: decision or or what.
Speaker 2: There it is. You think that that could be a
Speaker 2: form of repentance.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm, No, goodness, I'm pretty sure we I where
Speaker 6: we sucked up that this middle school, and usually middle
Speaker 6: school is when you're growing, developing to what you will
Speaker 6: be as an adults, and knowing that we made this
Speaker 6: kid's life really difficult. Uh, Billy bothered.
Speaker 2: What your name was?
Speaker 9: Phil?
Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing, Phil.
Speaker 6: Thank you.
Speaker 14: Have a good night.
Speaker 6: Do you too have a good night? Love you.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
Speaker 6: I appreciate you too. Take care.
Speaker 4: H All from Camden, Camden.
Speaker 9: Hi, how are you doing, mister Dicco.
Speaker 2: I'm all right, Camden.
Speaker 9: Just came across your show here on the red lines,
Speaker 9: are are paying the see what it's sold out?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure that out myself. Cam, What were
Speaker 2: you doing before you called in?
Speaker 9: I just cut off of work, you know, kissing asks
Speaker 9: for money? Just call customer service? Okay?
Speaker 2: Do you welcome? Where do you work customer service at?
Speaker 9: I work for a company called Publics?
Speaker 8: And what when?
Speaker 9: Just in case anyone from management is watching, I love
Speaker 9: the company and I have no complaint whatsoever.
Speaker 2: No, no, look, Cam's not even your real name. I'm
Speaker 2: not even really you're having it. You're in a dream
Speaker 2: right now. Man, you can say whatever you want. I
Speaker 2: want to know the truth about Publics. Tell me, please, Well, our.
Speaker 9: Companies actually some hot water right now.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't know if the controversy something you want me
Speaker 9: talking about on your show right now?
Speaker 2: But oh you know, please, well what's what's the controversy?
Speaker 2: Is it political? Is it social?
Speaker 3: Is it.
Speaker 4: Me hit men?
Speaker 9: Uh? Well, He'll be honest with you. We are the
Speaker 9: person who funds our or how does our cherry organization?
Speaker 9: Or did I think she's just had done if this happened,
Speaker 9: but she donated three hundred thousand dollars to rally at
Speaker 9: Capitol Hill and in uh, we're in pretty hot water
Speaker 9: about it because then publics went on Twitter and said like, oh,
Speaker 9: she doesn't represent you know what we think. But you know,
Speaker 9: one of our biggest things is giving back to the community.
Speaker 9: And so now that where I'm at is like, how
Speaker 9: does that not represent us? If that's our whole thing
Speaker 9: is giving back and helping other people, Like, how does
Speaker 9: that not represent us?
Speaker 2: So are now you as an individual that works for
Speaker 2: this company, you know, because it's one I feel like
Speaker 2: this this is it's one thing. I mean, everyone's you know,
Speaker 2: has the thing where like, Okay, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: support this company as a consumer anymore, you know, because
Speaker 2: I don't agree with, you know, any things that they've done.
Speaker 2: But for you, when it's your livelihood, you know, does
Speaker 2: that add an extra layer of conflict when you're trying to,
Speaker 2: you know, stand up for what you believe the fact
Speaker 2: that it's it's your livelihood.
Speaker 9: At this point, I don't care if I get fired
Speaker 9: because I know a lot of different business owners on
Speaker 9: the area where to the point where I'm just like,
Speaker 9: if I get fired, I have other people lying like
Speaker 9: that would that that are ready to hire me and
Speaker 9: get me into their businesses. I'm not too scared of it,
Speaker 9: you know, you know, not to mention that they also
Speaker 9: try to use them all my coworkers as like a
Speaker 9: poster child. He's a grown man with caine, he has
Speaker 9: circle quality, and they tried to use some as like
Speaker 9: a like a example of how good they are to
Speaker 9: people with special needs, when he is even really like
Speaker 9: disabled or anything like that. I mean, he can make
Speaker 9: his own decisions and like he'd had to advocate for
Speaker 9: his own needs too, And so it's just it's it's
Speaker 9: kind of it's it's sick.
Speaker 2: It is are you are you considering quitting?
Speaker 9: Honestly? If I if I get a jellaware notes for
Speaker 9: me before I get fired?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're you're you're talking you you think you're
Speaker 2: gonna get fired?
Speaker 17: Don't you.
Speaker 5: Rely?
Speaker 9: This ready thing? When from amazingcyes this.
Speaker 2: Do I mean before okay before but no, no, before this,
Speaker 2: did you think were you on track to get fired
Speaker 2: for some reason? Before you called in? Before this? I
Speaker 2: mean this is not No one cares about this.
Speaker 9: I don't kiss. I don't kiss the management as so
Speaker 9: probably they don't really like it. When you're not like
Speaker 9: the perfect like individual, just the you know, fake happiness
Speaker 9: and all that, it's just fucking it's it's you know
Speaker 9: what I mean. It's uh yeah, when you're not like
Speaker 9: fake happy and everything like that, they don't like it
Speaker 9: and they don't like you don't get moved up.
Speaker 2: What's your like ultimate you could go anywhere place to
Speaker 2: go after publics to work.
Speaker 9: I well, I'm in college right now for geology and
Speaker 9: I'm hoping to get a really good career in that
Speaker 9: in the future, okay for my gelgy pressure as it is,
Speaker 9: and you know, it's it's a fantastic opportunity, you know,
Speaker 9: to you know, get experienced from him then just kind
Speaker 9: of learn things. And I'm taking as they go. I
Speaker 9: want taking slow with college because I don't want to.
Speaker 9: I don't know, I don't want to suck it up.
Speaker 9: It's yeah, I have I have a big opportunity right
Speaker 9: now with like the money that has been saved up,
Speaker 9: and so I don't want to waste that and like
Speaker 9: move terribly fast.
Speaker 22: You know.
Speaker 9: I don't know if I'm making sense at all, but
Speaker 9: mm hmm, yeah, that's kind of where I'm at with that.
Speaker 2: I love it. Man, would you say your fake name was?
Speaker 9: Uh, fake name Schmitty. We'll go to Schmitty. How about that?
Speaker 2: Schmitt? I love yeah, well schmitty man. Look, thank you
Speaker 2: for calling, and man, you have a good rest of
Speaker 2: the night. And power to you. You know, do what
Speaker 2: you gotta do for public's go move on, go go
Speaker 2: get into rocks. I love it, dude.
Speaker 9: Yeah, And as a slave moderator whoever just said that,
Speaker 9: I love you too, Thank you. I love you as well. Hey,
Speaker 9: you all have a good one.
Speaker 2: That guy was nice. He was a nice guy.
Speaker 10: All from.
Speaker 2: Bronx Bronson Bronson? There?
Speaker 22: How are you?
Speaker 2: Bronson?
Speaker 5: Dode?
Speaker 8: All right? How are you?
Speaker 2: Bronson? What do you think of the kindness economy? I?
Speaker 23: Uh, I'm kind of on your side, because it seems
Speaker 23: like after a time, it does just turn back into a.
Speaker 2: Regular economy, right, turns back into regular economy immediately.
Speaker 17: Sorry what I said?
Speaker 2: It turns back into a regular economy immediate, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: And also I believe Look, do I think it's good
Speaker 2: to be an asshole? I don't know, but I believe
Speaker 2: in the freedom to be one. What if I want
Speaker 2: to just go around being a jerk to everyone?
Speaker 23: I mean, you're prerogative, but like I think I think
Speaker 23: there's a balance, you know, Like I wouldn't want to
Speaker 23: be a jerk to everybody, but I think it's inevitable
Speaker 23: sometimes to be a jerk.
Speaker 5: To some people.
Speaker 2: Do you believe that you're a good person?
Speaker 23: A big question, man.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 23: Generally speaking, I'm a pretty decent guy. I wouldn't say
Speaker 23: I'm perfect, but I'm all right guy.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. What do you think money is.
Speaker 23: The kind of like a philosopher's stone in a way
Speaker 23: from where like, yeah, well I'm not sure what the
Speaker 23: Harry Potter one did, but like the thing that turns
Speaker 23: lead into gold, like it turns one thing into another thing,
Speaker 23: you know what I mean. Like it's uh, I think, like, man,
Speaker 23: I used to say I love money, but I don't
Speaker 23: think that's true. I think I love what money can do,
Speaker 23: which is I think in a lot of ways, it
Speaker 23: can give you freedom where you're not you know, grinding
Speaker 23: to pay rent or you know, buy buy food or whatever.
Speaker 23: But like it's a it's a bit of like a
Speaker 23: double edged sword. After a while, like I think it
Speaker 23: can get to the point where, like is the fanatical
Speaker 23: pursuit of freedom that freeing.
Speaker 2: What what do you do for a living?
Speaker 23: I I am in sales.
Speaker 2: M hmm, what do you see?
Speaker 23: I sell GPS for.
Speaker 2: H you sell GPS?
Speaker 23: Yeah? I actually might be quitting soon.
Speaker 8: I'm so excited.
Speaker 17: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Did you hate selling GPS? I?
Speaker 23: No, it's I it was. The job itself was pretty fine.
Speaker 23: I was pretty good at it. But uh, I worked
Speaker 23: for some people I'm not super fond of. I thought
Speaker 23: they did unethical things in the name of money.
Speaker 2: What did they do?
Speaker 12: Well?
Speaker 23: Not to get too much into the weeds here, but
Speaker 23: basically my entire department except for me, was given a
Speaker 23: impossible quota to hit and told if they didn't hit
Speaker 23: that quota they would be fired. And then a week
Speaker 23: before the dude ate, they just fired them anyway, which
Speaker 23: is like, you know, you gotta do what you gotta
Speaker 23: do dollars and cents, but con to like not even
Speaker 23: give someone the chance to hit the mark I thought
Speaker 23: was not ethical.
Speaker 2: So they in advance. They knew in advance that they
Speaker 2: were going to have to fire these people anyway, so
Speaker 2: their plan was always to fire them a week before
Speaker 2: the quota deadline.
Speaker 23: I think so, Yeah, I definitely think that was the case.
Speaker 23: And I don't know if you're a Christmas character, but
Speaker 23: I thought there was this whole quota came out like
Speaker 23: a week before Christmas, which I think is a rough
Speaker 23: time to tell someone that your job is on the
Speaker 23: line for sure. So yeah, I don't know, man. They
Speaker 23: Actually I was calling you a Monday, trying to get
Speaker 23: in to talk about this because I'm very conflicted about
Speaker 23: this whole situation.
Speaker 2: Oh please, Yes, what's the source of Well, I guess,
Speaker 2: I mean was the what's the conflict about whether or
Speaker 2: not to stay there?
Speaker 23: Yeah, because I was They've offered me a promotion, and yeah,
Speaker 23: and I think I stand to make a good amount
Speaker 23: of money and like, I've never made good money in
Speaker 23: my life and now I'm being offered like more money
Speaker 23: than I thought a person with my skill set could make.
Speaker 23: But also at the same time, I've come to realize
Speaker 23: this is like a morally ambiguous place to be. And
Speaker 23: as a person who's always said he's not motivated by
Speaker 23: money very much, it feels in a way like the
Speaker 23: universe saying are you sure about that?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 2: Like, so, I mean we sort of started this story
Speaker 2: with the end of it you ended up quitting, right.
Speaker 23: I haven't quit yet.
Speaker 2: I okay, So is it still in the air or
Speaker 2: you've decided.
Speaker 23: I'm waiting to hear back about another job, and if
Speaker 23: I get that, probate quitting.
Speaker 2: But is the other job for significantly less money?
Speaker 8: Oh you better believe it, buddy.
Speaker 2: Now is making good You said that you've never been
Speaker 2: driven by money, so making good money has never been
Speaker 2: a thing that's been that important to you anyway from
Speaker 2: what I understand.
Speaker 23: Yeah, like making I'd like to make decent money, but
Speaker 23: I don't need to. I don't need a house with
Speaker 23: a wall. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The house with a wall.
Speaker 23: Yeah, like a big, big you know, l a house
Speaker 23: with a wall around it and the gate wall.
Speaker 2: Houses have walls. Oh you made a wall like out
Speaker 2: in front of the.
Speaker 8: House around the house?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I thought you were talking about walls
Speaker 2: in the house because you need that.
Speaker 8: No, yeah, it's prereconsent.
Speaker 23: I need like at least four of those.
Speaker 2: So you're not driven by money. So if you're not
Speaker 2: driven by money, what, let me ask you? What do
Speaker 2: what does drive you? What do you what do you
Speaker 2: value in its place?
Speaker 23: It's a good question.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 23: I think you know this, that kind of economy guy
Speaker 23: is gonna love this. I think I generally want to
Speaker 23: help people or do something that like I'll put it
Speaker 23: to you this way, when I when I make a
Speaker 23: sales call to someone, I call them and I say, hey,
Speaker 23: I'm a GPS man. Do you need GPS? And most
Speaker 23: of the time they're like, no, never call me again.
Speaker 23: But sometimes they say, man, I'm so glad you called,
Speaker 23: like I'm looking for this, and that that is worth
Speaker 23: more than anything like that call pays more than any
Speaker 23: other call I could make.
Speaker 2: For sure, for sure, that is a good feeling when
Speaker 2: when someone needs something and you're able to give it
Speaker 2: to them.
Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, exactly, man. Like you know, if I have
Speaker 23: the bread that someone wants, I'm happy to. Like, I know,
Speaker 23: the guy who supplies the bread for me to distribute
Speaker 23: to people will not accept kindness for it, but I'm
Speaker 23: happy to, you know, take the money, pass it into
Speaker 23: the next hand, and give the guy the bread. And
Speaker 23: I think at the end of the day, like everybody wins.
Speaker 23: The people who made the bread are happy to have
Speaker 23: the money. The guy who bought the bread is happy
Speaker 23: to trade money for bread or GPS whatever it is.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like this role the one that you're pursuing.
Speaker 2: Which of the options when you were sort of weighing
Speaker 2: whether to go to the new place or to get
Speaker 2: promoted at the old place, which option do you feel
Speaker 2: like afforded you the better opportunity to help people?
Speaker 23: Hmmm, I would say probably roughly the same.
Speaker 2: I think roughly the same.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the new role in.
Speaker 23: General, I think on a more granular level, I'm my
Speaker 23: role would be exclusively helping people, but in a very
Speaker 23: small way, whereas the other role is I have less
Speaker 23: opportunity to genuinely help someone, but it's a much larger
Speaker 23: amount of help I provide them.
Speaker 2: So one role, you provide lots of people with a
Speaker 2: smaller amount of help. On the other role, you provide
Speaker 2: less people with a greater amount of help.
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: So if you view these two positions as equal in
Speaker 2: terms of your ability, in terms of how they serve
Speaker 2: you know what your true goal is? Then why does
Speaker 2: it Why is it such a big conflict for you
Speaker 2: which one to choose?
Speaker 23: Because the current role is I'm I'm sort of implicitly
Speaker 23: siding with people who did people I care about dirty,
Speaker 23: you know what I mean? Like, so I feel like,
Speaker 23: you know.
Speaker 8: If I were to.
Speaker 23: Come up with an example here, but like you know,
Speaker 23: let's say your favorite your favorite athlete or a musician
Speaker 23: turns out he like, yeah, sold a bunch of math
Speaker 23: to orphans. You feel pretty bad about like buying his
Speaker 23: CDs after that, Right, you'd be like, I don't know.
Speaker 8: About that, Like, uh, it'll feel a little weird.
Speaker 23: I think it's the same way like.
Speaker 2: I'm Justin Bieber actually did that? You can look that up.
Speaker 23: Yeah, I believe you to orphans.
Speaker 2: Okay, Justin. You can google Justin Bieber orphan myths. It'll
Speaker 2: come up.
Speaker 5: Like first result or do I have to look?
Speaker 2: I think what's important is that whatever you do choose,
Speaker 2: what are you? Are you confident in the decision you've chosen?
Speaker 2: Are you like gung ho down that pass? Because that's
Speaker 2: the that's the that's the thing.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 2: What I heard of someone say once about decision making
Speaker 2: is that whether or not your decision is right decision,
Speaker 2: you you actually have more control over that than you
Speaker 2: think right, because whatever you choose, there is no right decision.
Speaker 2: You choose something and then you make that the right decision,
Speaker 2: If that makes any sense.
Speaker 23: Yeah, definitely, I saw something kind of similar about that
Speaker 23: where someone was talking about you're looking at a fruit
Speaker 23: tree with a bunch of nice pieces of fruit on it,
Speaker 23: and they got there deciding which piece of fruit to
Speaker 23: take and over for time, oil the fruit out to
Speaker 23: the ground. And you know, God, exactly exactly, man, So
Speaker 23: I think you're absolutely right. It is more about making
Speaker 23: a choice in committing What.
Speaker 2: Did you say. Your name was.
Speaker 8: Bronson?
Speaker 2: Bronson? Well, Bronson? Man, you know, good good, good luck
Speaker 2: to you in the future. And I appreciate you sharing
Speaker 2: with us.
Speaker 23: Yeah, thank you taking my call. Man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Of course. Man. I'll talk to you soon. You have
Speaker 2: a good night, you too, buddy.
Speaker 8: Take care.
Speaker 10: All from beaiter yeah, beatter, Yeah, moderator, batter.
Speaker 2: You got batter. You gotta turn your you gotta turn
Speaker 2: your stream off. You gotta turn the stream off better. Oh,
Speaker 2: because I can hear it in the background. Beata Are
Speaker 2: you there?
Speaker 14: I'm there?
Speaker 2: Uh? Who are you bad?
Speaker 26: I'm I'm just a door dasher, delivering people's food to
Speaker 26: them every day.
Speaker 2: Are you on the job right now?
Speaker 26: I am not, but I did work about thirty minutes ago.
Speaker 2: In the snow.
Speaker 14: No, I'm not on the East Coast.
Speaker 2: Do you like door Dash?
Speaker 14: I mean, it's all right, it's notch that you get
Speaker 14: to do what you want, work when you want.
Speaker 26: You know, have a boss or your own boss.
Speaker 2: You know, you'd be good in like a commercial for
Speaker 2: working for them, and you can just say exactly what
Speaker 2: you said just now, exactly how you said it, and
Speaker 2: I would actually be pretty sold.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 14: Do you think corporate cares? Do you think they care
Speaker 14: about their door dash drivers?
Speaker 2: Probably not, no, But I think that the like if
Speaker 2: I saw a commercial h for like, sign up to
Speaker 2: run door dash and you said exactly like, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: kind of cool. You get to make it like that,
Speaker 2: I'd be like, I believe that that is what that
Speaker 2: experience is like, as opposed to if you know it
Speaker 2: was it was it was ultra upbeat or anything like that.
Speaker 14: Yeah, and that's just the truth.
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 2: Well, what's your talent?
Speaker 14: I breed fish.
Speaker 2: How'd you get into that?
Speaker 23: Well?
Speaker 26: I started with a thirty five gallon tank and I
Speaker 26: had fish in it, and then they had babies and
Speaker 26: I was like, well, in no way. And then I
Speaker 26: got a bigger tank, and then I got more fish,
Speaker 26: specifically guppies, and.
Speaker 2: Plecos plucos Yep, what is a pleco?
Speaker 14: A pleco? It's like it's like the bottom feeder.
Speaker 26: It sucks everything it gets big. They can be striped,
Speaker 26: just the bottom feeder of the tank, and they're kind
Speaker 26: of dope looking.
Speaker 2: What do you do with the fish after you breathe them?
Speaker 2: Do you sell them?
Speaker 7: Nah?
Speaker 26: I just either feed them to the catfish I have
Speaker 26: the babies, or I leave them the tank from the girl.
Speaker 2: So you have a separate How many different tanks do
Speaker 2: you have?
Speaker 12: Three?
Speaker 2: So you got a predator tank and a prey tank.
Speaker 14: Yeah, pretty much. I don't think of it like that, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. You don't really have to so you
Speaker 2: have fuck, dude, that's like this This is like a
Speaker 2: fish pyramid scheme of some kind because you don't have
Speaker 2: to buy fish food because you have other fish that
Speaker 2: are food.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 26: And I have plants, so everything like cleans itself. I
Speaker 26: have shrimp that clean the plants, and the plants clean
Speaker 26: the water, so everything's like I can't just leave it
Speaker 26: and it works like by itself, like an ecosystem.
Speaker 2: Does it make you feel like God?
Speaker 26: I mean I control their lives, I control if they
Speaker 26: eat I control if it's day or night. I control
Speaker 26: the temperature, I control much water is in there tank.
Speaker 2: Do you enjoy having that power?
Speaker 14: I guess I do.
Speaker 9: I do.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like in general you you have like
Speaker 2: a lack of power in your life that you make
Speaker 2: up for with this power over the fish?
Speaker 14: Maybe?
Speaker 9: Maybe?
Speaker 26: Do you think the fish are like like they mean
Speaker 26: something else because of something else? Like the fish are.
Speaker 10: Mm hmm, I.
Speaker 14: Got coping mechanism for something.
Speaker 2: Do you think they're a coping mechanism for something?
Speaker 26: I think they're in an escape from reality. I think
Speaker 26: when I with my fish and I'm feeding my fish,
Speaker 26: I'm cleaning their tank. The only thing that's there, The
Speaker 26: only thing I'm thinking about is me and my fish.
Speaker 2: Yes exactly, but I yeah. I mean, look, that's not
Speaker 2: that much different from fucking any other action that isn't
Speaker 2: just kind of sitting and staring at the wall. You know,
Speaker 2: right when you're with your fish, you're focused one.
Speaker 26: Well, like looking at wall and looking at fish like
Speaker 26: my fish like everything's different, they're different colors. You don't
Speaker 26: know what's going to happen. Everything's random.
Speaker 2: What do you feel like you're escaping from?
Speaker 14: Probably taxes?
Speaker 26: I'm very I don't know anything about that. That's my
Speaker 26: biggest worry about right now.
Speaker 14: I do door dash.
Speaker 26: They don't tell me anything about taxes. All they did
Speaker 26: was send me a paper the school like I'm in
Speaker 26: high school, like senior year all that.
Speaker 14: I'm eighteen.
Speaker 26: By the way, I just about to put that out
Speaker 26: there because I just said that.
Speaker 2: And yeah, how much money did you make doing door
Speaker 2: dash in twenty twenty?
Speaker 26: In twenty twenty, I started in November, so I made
Speaker 26: in November and December I made like four hundred bucks.
Speaker 2: I don't think you have to pay taxes in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: so you don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 9: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Would you say your name.
Speaker 14: Was Peter but it's Peter? Well, yeah, do.
Speaker 2: You feel like, over the course of this call you
Speaker 2: kind of started out with a fake name and then
Speaker 2: can we establish a little bit of trust between each
Speaker 2: other that you gave me the real one?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 26: And I think it's I think it's a little obvious
Speaker 26: that my name was Peter, because you know.
Speaker 2: The b MP, I thought it was Beata like masturbaiter
Speaker 2: and I thought you were gonna call in the.
Speaker 26: Trol Oh no, like like my friends call me Peter
Speaker 26: and stuff.
Speaker 14: Like a nickname.
Speaker 4: Have a good night, bater you too, Oh all from Willie.
Speaker 16: Kee key Mama, kee key MoMA, keim on my key
Speaker 16: kee keem my key Mama. Where did you put the
Speaker 16: keys to my car?
Speaker 11: Car?
Speaker 16: What didn't you put the fucking keys to my fucking car.
Speaker 4: I gotta go to the.
Speaker 2: Store and buy myself a loaf of bread to make
Speaker 2: some peanut butter jelly sandwich cheese. I will give me my.
Speaker 9: Jelly sandwiches. So I had your keys.
Speaker 2: I hid your keys.
Speaker 24: You said, don't hit my keys, don't hit my keys, please.
Speaker 18: But I did it anyway.
Speaker 2: I do it every day, and I'll do it and
Speaker 2: I'll do it until you pay me five dollars.
Speaker 16: Mama, Please don't hurt my keys. I don't have five
Speaker 16: dollars in my bank account right now.
Speaker 2: Why do you do this to me? I don't have
Speaker 2: a lot of cheese, Mama. Please don't hide my key.
Speaker 18: Please.
Speaker 24: You better I get a job or learn to bob,
Speaker 24: or get some keys that are hanging on a bob
Speaker 24: that I got that money in my little sonney. If
Speaker 24: you want anything hot butter and honey.
Speaker 2: I don't want to live a life of crime.
Speaker 8: Well that's too bad.
Speaker 16: I don't want to, but I need a few dimes
Speaker 16: to get my peanut butter jelly sandwiches.
Speaker 24: Mama, Please, you could maybe try investing in the market
Speaker 24: and may get some dollars. You will outline and then
Speaker 24: if some people holler, they say some things and they'll
Speaker 24: phone it rings that you.
Speaker 8: Broke you've gone broke their.
Speaker 2: What's your talent?
Speaker 7: That?
Speaker 2: I guess that was pretty good.
Speaker 17: That was a lot.
Speaker 2: You know. I came in, you know, I came into
Speaker 2: this and I and I was like, I started, like,
Speaker 2: you know, I opened it right and then and then
Speaker 2: you started rhyming, and I was like, oh, this guy's
Speaker 2: way better than me at this. And uh, but you know,
Speaker 2: I tried.
Speaker 24: You're clearly the best at what you do.
Speaker 2: Not like, are we talking about like within that interaction
Speaker 2: that we had.
Speaker 24: Just now, No, I'm talking about whatever it is that
Speaker 24: you do. Like, I don't know how you describe your
Speaker 24: streams to people when you tell people you stream, but
Speaker 24: you're clearly really good at what you're doing.
Speaker 2: You know, there's a trick to being really good at
Speaker 2: what you do.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I believe it's Look.
Speaker 2: Only well, here's the thing. Yeah, I feel like, well,
Speaker 2: it depends. Like, look, if you look at what I
Speaker 2: do as interviewing, like, of course I'm not the best
Speaker 2: inn of course I'm not the best interviewer. But if
Speaker 2: you look at what I'm doing as you know, doing myself,
Speaker 2: of course I'm the best person at doing myself. But
Speaker 2: like you know, if you're doing something that you would
Speaker 2: describe as doing yourself, then if no one can, no
Speaker 2: one can be better than you if you're doing yourself.
Speaker 2: I know that that sounds fucking cheesy, by I do
Speaker 2: believe in that, right, But you.
Speaker 24: Found a way of being yourself. It's clearly very entertaining
Speaker 24: to a large number people.
Speaker 2: I found a good medium for it.
Speaker 8: Mmm, you did.
Speaker 24: It's a new medium, which is very cool. It's very
Speaker 24: cool to live in the time when people can do
Speaker 24: things like this.
Speaker 2: It's hard. It's a lazy medium, streaming, it's a very
Speaker 2: lazy medium.
Speaker 10: It is.
Speaker 2: It is laborious. But it's like before this, I used
Speaker 2: to make movies. You know, it's so like making a
Speaker 2: movie or like editing of it's so you it's the
Speaker 2: opposite of this. Because this I'm here, I'm in lights
Speaker 2: for three hours talking to people editing a movie or
Speaker 2: a video is you're alone in the dark, you talk
Speaker 2: to no one for days, but it's it's but you
Speaker 2: come out with a more refined product than just sitting
Speaker 2: around blabbing on a stream, right.
Speaker 24: I It's that's very funny because I also do a
Speaker 24: lot of editing, and it's like you're it's like you're
Speaker 24: charging up for this one big blast, and you really
Speaker 24: hope the blast is perfect and they're getting to do
Speaker 24: something like this, and I do something a little bit similar.
Speaker 24: But I don't mean to compare myself to the geck,
Speaker 24: but it's kind of like, oh, I can say anything
Speaker 24: and it's all equally valid, and if it's like not perfect,
Speaker 24: it's nested in the middle of a three hour stream,
Speaker 24: So who exactly you know exactly right?
Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah it man, you get.
Speaker 2: And another thing is is like I feel like on
Speaker 2: a on a stream, I think you're more raw because
Speaker 2: in like a video or like a fucking tweet, even
Speaker 2: anything that's pre written, it go, you type something or
Speaker 2: you make something and then you're like, now that sounds stupid,
Speaker 2: and you throw it out and you come back. But
Speaker 2: now if I say something and I'm like and I
Speaker 2: think right after I said it, I think that's stupid.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's already out. I'm not time.
Speaker 2: I can't attract it. So it's the most raw version
Speaker 2: of your thoughts, and you.
Speaker 24: Always have the option of going back and making a
Speaker 24: more refined version of it.
Speaker 17: Yes, but you don't have to.
Speaker 2: It's true, that's true.
Speaker 24: I never do.
Speaker 2: Well, what is this thing that you do that you
Speaker 2: were saying? Is similar? Do do do you stream?
Speaker 9: I do stream?
Speaker 24: I stream with a character, and I don't usually talk
Speaker 24: about it, but I might as well, because.
Speaker 2: You seem to stream.
Speaker 24: Streaming as a character, and uh, you get the character?
Speaker 8: Is it's I pretend to be.
Speaker 24: A German Man and I like play the song and
Speaker 24: I do it on here and it's a fun time.
Speaker 2: You pretend to be a German Man on our pet. Yes, Yes,
Speaker 2: his name Himie Wilhelm, Jimie Wilhelm.
Speaker 24: If I may, yeah, if I may say his name.
Speaker 2: Of course. Well, now, uh tell me the tell me
Speaker 2: the origin of himI Heimi Wilhelm.
Speaker 8: That's a great question.
Speaker 24: Are you familiar with the band of wolf Peck?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 9: They do that?
Speaker 2: What does the fox say song?
Speaker 11: No?
Speaker 24: That is that's that's a guy from a different country.
Speaker 2: But I am not familiar with the band will Wolf Peck.
Speaker 24: Then they're they're they're phenomenal.
Speaker 8: But I happened to have.
Speaker 24: Gone to a summer camp where the big front man,
Speaker 24: Jack Stratton, was a teacher and I learned from him,
Speaker 24: and he had a character named Mushi Krongole, who was
Speaker 24: like anyone out there.
Speaker 9: If you google Mushi Krongle.
Speaker 24: There's some very very nice stuff. And I don't know,
Speaker 24: I just wanted a character too. So I started doing
Speaker 24: this bullshit in college and then kept doing it after
Speaker 24: college and live settings, and then live shows went away,
Speaker 24: and then I discovered our pen and had a blast.
Speaker 2: And so you were doing this German Man of live
Speaker 2: shows of it. Yeah, yeah, Well how did these shows go?
Speaker 2: Were they pre written or were they improvised or the comedy?
Speaker 2: I'm curious?
Speaker 24: Yeah, absolutely, I you know. I also, in the before
Speaker 24: time did stand up, but I would find that his
Speaker 24: character would consistently.
Speaker 9: Do better than the stand up.
Speaker 24: Yeah, so I ended up doing character law. But I
Speaker 24: think it's it's it's correct. Me tell me if to
Speaker 24: do a similar for you. I don't know why the
Speaker 24: character works, do you claim to know why what you
Speaker 24: do works.
Speaker 2: I have I think I know why what I well,
Speaker 2: it depends on how you define works, because you could
Speaker 2: define that if you wanted to define that as objective,
Speaker 2: if you want to find that objectively as like are
Speaker 2: there people watching me do this right now? Then yes
Speaker 2: it works objectively. But if you wanted to find it
Speaker 2: like you know, is it? You know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of different ways to define if something works. But I
Speaker 2: think I don't know if I went into why I
Speaker 2: thought this worked, it would I think I'd get to, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I know why it works for me. I
Speaker 2: used to do stand up in the before times, and
Speaker 2: like if I can. If I came on a stream,
Speaker 2: if and I was like, I'm Lyle and this is
Speaker 2: the Lile Advice Hour with me, I'd be like, I'm
Speaker 2: a fucking douche. I should go kill myself. What am
Speaker 2: I doing? But but when you're doing it with like
Speaker 2: a character, when you're doing it, it's it's so much
Speaker 2: less personal. You have you have you, there's so much more.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how you would like, you know, detachment,
Speaker 2: but like the good kind of detachment that that that
Speaker 2: makes you looser. If that makes sense.
Speaker 24: Yeah, I honestly I feel the same way, and I
Speaker 24: couldn't say it better myself.
Speaker 2: I want to know about this will because I did.
Speaker 2: When Pandemic is over. I want to do the therapy
Speaker 2: echo live, but I I am trying to work out
Speaker 2: how that would work. What I want to do is
Speaker 2: I want to just take calls, stream it stream like
Speaker 2: set up some cameras, stream it on Twitch, and just
Speaker 2: take do exactly what I'm doing, but with an audience.
Speaker 2: How did your streams go? What did you do? Or
Speaker 2: your shows?
Speaker 24: Well, for the shows, it would usually be like it
Speaker 24: would be comedy shows. If the end up stem stump
Speaker 24: and I would just do this character and it would
Speaker 24: just go get on stage with this with a saw,
Speaker 24: or like this omni chord, which is like really fun music,
Speaker 24: like electronic instrument, and I just be like, I don't
Speaker 24: have anything written, Like give me either a topic and
Speaker 24: I make up a song on the omni chord or
Speaker 24: I just do covers on the saw, but they're like fucked.
Speaker 8: Up because it's it's a musical.
Speaker 9: It's it's a regular saw.
Speaker 8: You cut woodwhip and you play with like a cello bow.
Speaker 24: And it sounds it's like, no matter what you play,
Speaker 24: it's gonna sound like fucked up that I don't know,
Speaker 24: it's just the fun thing. But like it's like this,
Speaker 24: you don't have to write anything, and like you said, yeah,
Speaker 24: it's kind of detached from you. So it's not like, oh,
Speaker 24: it's me Willy on stage and I wrote these jokes
Speaker 24: and if you don't like the jokes, that means you
Speaker 24: don't like me.
Speaker 8: But I'm not me.
Speaker 24: I'm this other guy, this character.
Speaker 4: So you know, it's heart.
Speaker 2: I think with streaming though, because like when you're if
Speaker 2: you if if you go on stage and you know
Speaker 2: you did stay, if you go on stage and you
Speaker 2: just start talking and everything you say does and sort
Speaker 2: of wrap up into a neat little bow that has
Speaker 2: a laugh at the end. It doesn't work live, But
Speaker 2: if you do it on the computer, it's different because
Speaker 2: I mean, I have to people watching this right now
Speaker 2: probably have it open in like another tab while they're
Speaker 2: like on Facebook or doing something else. It's not as intimate, right.
Speaker 24: Plus you know there's other the of the whole, you know,
Speaker 24: the cost background and the music. I mean, I don't
Speaker 24: know if you want to give away what is this
Speaker 24: music that you're playing quietly in the background.
Speaker 2: It's glorious. This music. It's it's called it's the first No,
Speaker 2: I think it's the third result that comes up when
Speaker 2: you type into YouTube cool ambient music.
Speaker 9: Okay, nice, that's all.
Speaker 24: But yeah, I mean, yeah, you should definitely do this live.
Speaker 2: I want to I'm trying to go. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: go everywhere I want to go to. Uh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'll figure it out. If I show up to goddamn Austin,
Speaker 2: Texas and three people come, If if one person comes,
Speaker 2: I'm literally just gonna live stream myself that that person.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give them a microphone. We take calls. We'll
Speaker 2: do what we do, you know. Yeah, all right, you
Speaker 2: were good at that thing earlier. I can I can
Speaker 2: see that you have you some some chords.
Speaker 15: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Would you say your name was Willie? WILLI Well, well,
Speaker 2: thank you, Willie Man. I'll talk to you soon. I
Speaker 2: appreciate you absolutely, Thank you for having me on. You
Speaker 2: have a good night. Ma'am goes on the line, taking
Speaker 2: your own calls every night.
Speaker 1: He was teaching you.
Speaker 10: The intervie