1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: Literally goes on the line making oone calls every night 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: every week, goes to teaching news of your life. Money's 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 1: not really an expert. 4 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Hello everyone, how you doing? How's life? I'm not going 5 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: to ramble on for too long, but this is the 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 2: Therapy Gecko podcast. How's it going? I normally I haven't 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: been doing these intros lately, but I figure I haven't 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: uploaded an episode in a while, so, you know, I 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: thought it would be a good idea to come on 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: here and explain why. And the reason is is that 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 2: lately I have been lazy. 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: You can call the. 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: Gecko every Monday, Wednesday Friday ten pm Eastern Standard Time 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: on Twitch dot tv, slash Lyle forever and let's get 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 2: into it. I feel bad about not uploading, so this 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 2: is going to be a longer episode and we got 17 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: some good calls in here tonight. I'm not going to 18 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: give any spoilers and I'm gonna shut the hell up 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: and get into it. Geck Nation Forever. Baby. 20 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 4: Call from Alex. 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 5: Alex am I on with the Gecko. 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's up? 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 6: Man? 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 7: Oh? 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 5: This is great? I uh, I love this show. I'm 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 5: gonna walk in and listen for a few weeks now, 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 5: it's kill it. 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: Thank you, man. I appreciate that. Is there anything sort 29 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: of in particular that you wanted to talk about tonight, Alex. 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 5: I was hearing you asking about money. Yeah, I'm hoping 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 5: to talk about what money is. 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: Tell me asks what is money? 33 00:01:53,960 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 5: It's slavery, Gecko. It's just a form of controlling people. 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: It's a way of controlling people. 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, there could be other ways to exchange things. 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 5: We could exchange kindness or good deeds or art or happiness, 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 5: but we choose money. Stupid. 38 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: If you're asking me, I want. 39 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: To hear more about this, this economy that runs on 40 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: exchanging kindness, I will. 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 5: You know, I wish, I wish I had more experience 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 5: with it, you know what I mean? Like I don't 43 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 5: get it day to day. But I think I think 44 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 5: instead of valuing cash or valuing purchases, we can value 45 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 5: how you make people feel. And I think there's ways 46 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: to measure that. I think besides just how you talk 47 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 5: to people or how people react to you good things 48 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 5: to believe you and. 49 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: You believe that there can be an objective measurement of 50 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: kindness that you can then use to weigh to to 51 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: you know, exchange for another thing of equal value. So 52 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 2: like if I'm a level nine kindness to you, you'll 53 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 2: give me bread, and bread is worth level nind kindness. 54 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, but even one step more than that, right, It's 55 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 5: like I won't exchange bread for for your kindness. I 56 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 5: want to give you bread or I want to feed 57 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 5: you because I recognize that you're kind. You know, it's 58 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 5: even being moving beyond just a transactional sort of economy. 59 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 5: We won't have like an exchange there. You know what 60 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 5: I'm saying. 61 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: It's like, how would you get bread? 62 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 5: Well, I mean if if I'm giving you the bread, right, 63 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 5: if you're so kind, you know I'm giving you the bread. Yes, 64 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 5: I want to live with you. I want to tend 65 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 5: to your land, you know. I want to plant your 66 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 5: soil or you plow your soil. 67 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 2: Whatever they But I don't want I don't want everyone 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: that I buy bread with. I don't want everyone that 69 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: I buy bread from to live with me. Like if 70 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: I went to the grocery store and I went to 71 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: buy bread and the cash, you're asked to live with me, 72 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 2: I would say. 73 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 8: No, totally. 74 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 5: I hear you, but you know you wont your kindness 75 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 5: or your your your positive energy won't match up with 76 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 5: those people you don't want to share those uh those 77 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 5: energies with, or that your personal space with. 78 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: You know, I would say no, even if he was 79 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: really really nice, I would still not lesto wouldn't let 80 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: him live with me. 81 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 5: Oh, I see what you're saying. You may not do 82 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 5: good in this economy if you're not you know, if 83 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 5: you're not trying to might not be Actually that brings. 84 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 2: Up a good wan What what? 85 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 6: What? 86 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 2: How does someone survive in this economy if they're an asshole? What? 87 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 9: What do they do? 88 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: What are they to do? 89 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 5: That's what's It's not going to be good for them. 90 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 5: You know, they're going to be pushed to the curve. 91 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: You know what if they have what a they have skills? 92 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: What if like all, what if it turns out that 93 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 2: everyone who is has the skill of creating bread is 94 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 2: an asshole? What are we going to do? 95 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 5: My theory is kind of a breaking down here. There 96 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 5: might be some sort of bartering that has to just 97 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 5: take place. But maybe maybe it's not just positive things. 98 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 5: Maybe there's there's other things that you were just a 99 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 5: really interesting development that you raise here, It won't necessarily 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 5: be positive things that that go good. You know, we 101 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 5: have to fight, we have to kill animals. You know 102 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 5: that's not positive energy necessarily. Maybe we don't have to 103 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,119 Speaker 5: kill animal, but you know what I'm saying, there's certain 104 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 5: things in our lives that they're not all uh influences 105 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 5: that that are for the better good. You know, someone 106 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 5: has to. 107 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: Get hurt, so you I want to go back to 108 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 2: the bread guy living with me. So I ask a 109 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 2: guy for bread and he says yes, but he has 110 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: to be able to live with me. But that's an 111 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: exchange of physical value because I'm he's giving me bread 112 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: and exchange for my place. But then how do I 113 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: get the place that to build it myself? 114 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 5: Well, no, somebody who want to build it for you, 115 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 5: But you're also gonna want. You're gonna want because if 116 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 5: they want to be around you, but you are gonna 117 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 5: want to be around them, or you're gonna want those 118 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 5: people that build houses to be around you. 119 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 8: You know, what if I. 120 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: Don't what if I don't want to be well, what 121 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: if I don't want to be around the guy that 122 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: builds houses? What if I think he's kind of great? 123 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know there's gonna be a broad spectrum, 124 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 5: you know, a panoply of different people that can build 125 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 5: houses for you, just like you know, like you go 126 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 5: to a supermarket. 127 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: So I have to pick one of them to be 128 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: friends with. 129 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 5: You got to get a carpenter, you know, like if 130 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 5: you're not gonna get a carpenter, if you're gonna if 131 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 5: you think every single carpenter is an asshole, that you're 132 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 5: not gonna not gonna be with me in that house. 133 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: No, but that's the but that's the thing here. It 134 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: doesn't matter if they're an asshole. I don't want to 135 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: be I don't want to have to be friends with 136 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: the carpenter just because he I would rather I would 137 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: I'm you know what, I I got to reject this idea. 138 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: I would rather give the carpenter money than be friends 139 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: with him. I think that would be too much kind 140 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: I actually being being kind to that many people all 141 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 2: the time to get what you want. 142 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 8: I don't. 143 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: I don't like that idea. I think I think that 144 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: would be exhausting. 145 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 5: There's so much anger and unhappiness right now. Though, you know, 146 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 5: I want to replace with something that's that's better than that. 147 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: I think. I think, look, you know what I think 148 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: you should you if you want this movement to actualize, 149 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 2: I think you need to start at yourself. 150 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 5: That's a lot of there's a lot of responsibility. 151 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 2: That's what I was saying. 152 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: It's too much work. 153 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 5: I need I need to get more than just me. 154 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I need to get a group. 155 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: Well, it starts with you, Alex. 156 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 5: Do you think I have it in me? Therapy deco. 157 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 2: We'll find out. I appreciate you, man, I'll talk to 158 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: you soon too, see you. 159 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 10: Thanks all from Jonathan to. 160 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 11: Accept press one. 161 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: Jonathan, Oh ship, did I get on? 162 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:27,119 Speaker 8: Yep? 163 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 4: You did? 164 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 9: Snap? 165 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 8: How's it going? 166 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 2: You know it's all right. I'm trying to whatever. Man, 167 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: what are you up to? Fuck all this ship? Tell 168 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: me every think? 169 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 12: Not too much? 170 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 13: Man, just went to work today. Uh work in call center, 171 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 13: work from home, so it's pretty chill. I'll just miss 172 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 13: you know, interact with people and talking to people that 173 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 13: aren't total dicks. 174 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: Is like, what percentage of the people you talk to 175 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 2: at the call center are total x? 176 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 13: I would say a good ninety eight percent of them. Really, Yes, 177 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 13: there's so much you have to deal with managers on 178 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 13: your ass just total idiots. But you know, I get it, man, 179 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 13: people have their problems, you know, they want to be heard, 180 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 13: But you got to be a douche about it. 181 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: What what's the world that way? Tell me what this 182 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: call center? Are the people being decks? 183 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 8: Are they? 184 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: Like? Are you referring to the people you work with 185 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 2: or the people that you're calling or the most. 186 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 13: Will I don't do outbound calls people calling to me 187 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 13: before my current job. I'm kind of a serial call 188 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 13: center worker. 189 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 8: I guess you would say I did. 190 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 13: Like roadside assistants and people calling and they're like their 191 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 13: cars are all fucked up and they're straight on the 192 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 13: side of the road. Customers out way they call it 193 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 13: tow truck drivers, which absolutely suck. But now I deal 194 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 13: with people's money and nobody likes their money being played with. 195 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: You know, No, yeah, oh no, that I mean that's 196 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 2: a tough gig, right there. You having people call you're 197 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: the first line of defense. When people are pissed off 198 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 2: and they need something, they call you. 199 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 13: Yeah, it's just hard sometimes in a let it carry 200 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 13: over in your personal life. 201 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: Really, Like, do you ever do you ever feel bad 202 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: about yourself from these people? Because I feel like I 203 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: feel like the fact that they are because they're not like, 204 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 2: what's your name, Jonathan, because they're not calling like, Hey, 205 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 2: I just wanted to call you Jonathan, because I want 206 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: you to know that I think you specifically, you know, 207 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: suck and uh, you know, I hate you. They're calling 208 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 2: because it's something that has nothing to do with you, 209 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: but they're they're using you as the lightning rod to 210 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 2: absorb their their frustration. 211 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 12: Indeed they do. 212 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 13: But way do people treat people? It's a huge thing 213 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 13: in this world with everything else that's going on in 214 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 13: the country, But. 215 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 14: You know, treat others how you want to be treated? 216 00:10:58,120 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 12: That simple? 217 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 8: Don't be a do tell? 218 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 7: Uh? 219 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 2: I mean, what's the worst? What's what's the worst? It 220 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: gets with these people? 221 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 13: Well, either they cussing you out, threatening to come find you, 222 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 13: burn your house down. It's like someone like a call 223 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 13: of duty lobby. So I maybe know how to dude, 224 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 13: tell me you find me and fuck my mom? 225 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: But did he did he do it? 226 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 15: No? 227 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 2: See, that's the thing these people, I mean, I I 228 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: I feel like you got nothing to worry about. These 229 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 2: people are you know, empty threats. But why did why 230 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: why did this guy tell you that he was going 231 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 2: to go to your house and fuck your mom. 232 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 13: Well, basically, I gave him an answer he didn't want 233 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 13: to hear, and I kept on repeating the same thing 234 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 13: because he wouldn't understand. So he got all mad and 235 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 13: then he threatened to suck my mom and I did 236 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 13: not take that personally. My mom was a very beautiful woman. 237 00:11:53,200 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. What's what I have a question for you, John? 238 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: Did you said, Jonathan? 239 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 4: John? 240 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 9: Either one? 241 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 5: I've been called worse? 242 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: I can I so I've heard John? What's your bad habit? 243 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 12: What's my bad habit? 244 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 14: Sporting lines and fucking dimes? My friend? 245 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 2: Really? 246 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 13: Nah, I kicked that ship back in like three years ago. 247 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 4: Dog, Do you. 248 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: Feel like being high on cocaine would help you deal 249 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: with the aggression that you receive from the call center? 250 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 2: Or do you feel like it would make you, in 251 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: turn more aggressive when you have to put on your 252 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 2: sort of customer service you know chill vibes? 253 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 13: Well, man, I did deck collections before, the same kind 254 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 13: of call center jig. But I was doing a lot 255 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 13: of blow at the time, and it made me great 256 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 13: at it. 257 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 2: Really to why why? Why? Why do you? Why did it? 258 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: Why do you think cocaine made you better at customer service. 259 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 12: Have you ever seen Wolf of Wall Street? 260 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: I have, I sat a while ago. 261 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 12: Dude, I was heart out Jordan Belford than that motherfucker. 262 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: See this is tough, right because I feel like with drugs, 263 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: the trajectory of it or whatever is, you know, it 264 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: bleeds into these other parts of your life. And you're like, 265 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: I can't show up at work because I'm high all 266 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 2: the time. I can't function. But how do you kick 267 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: a drug that helps you function better? That must be 268 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: different because you don't hit rock bottom, you could your 269 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: life it works for you. 270 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 13: Well, that's a very good question, and I'm glad you 271 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 13: asked that. Basically, it triggers a certain part of your 272 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 13: brain that makes you feel a sense of accomplishment, like 273 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 13: cocaine for example. Yes, it gives you a sense of accomplishments, 274 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 13: like basically, so you do something really good and you 275 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 13: feel proud of yourself. It's instantly like that. However, it's 276 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 13: a very difficult thing to come off of. Now myself, 277 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 13: I'm just not doing it and it was very very hard, 278 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 13: Like I got sweats, paranoia, crazy shit. But it just 279 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 13: takes passion to really want to get help, and some 280 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 13: people don't really realize that. 281 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: M how long have you been sober for? 282 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 15: Uh? 283 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 14: Three years now? 284 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: Fuck? Yeah, that's awesome. Do you ever like, are you 285 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: ever just like someone's fucking chewing you out and you 286 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: go you hide inside of a cocaine fantasy in your brain. 287 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 13: Sometimes and then sometimes whenever my friends have it, I 288 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 13: just get discut feeling. I call it the Lizard brand 289 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 13: where all your primal instincts just take over and just 290 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 13: want to go full Tony Montana on that. 291 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I feel you on the Lizard brand. 292 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 14: Oh yeah, we get go brand. 293 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: Well, Jonathan Matt, I'm happy to hear that things have 294 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 2: been going well for you. I'm happy to hear you've 295 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: been able to kick it and stay strong. Real quick, 296 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: before we go, I want to end on a good 297 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 2: note here, tell me about the two percent for people 298 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: on twitch. Jonathan was telling us about how ninety eight 299 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 2: Jonathan works at a call center. He said, ninety eight 300 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: percent of people interacts with our huge douchebags. But I 301 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: want to ask you about the two percent that aren't. 302 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 8: Well. 303 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 13: Most of them are either younger people or people that 304 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 13: actually need their well that I can actually help them 305 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 13: out with stuff because I work for a bank, but 306 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 13: I do like check broud. So people get their checklix 307 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 13: stolen or their check stolen whatever else, and like if 308 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 13: their case has been resolve to tell them like. 309 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 3: Yo, it's done. 310 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 5: You did you feel me? 311 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 13: They're like, oh sweet, thanks man, or like they get 312 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 13: an answer they don't like, they don't like it. But 313 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 13: it's very rare that we get good calls, and most 314 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 13: calls are based off surveys. For surveys ain't good. Our 315 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 13: supervisors but chet us all day. 316 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: So but do you ever want to do something else? 317 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: Do you ever want to like day trade? Like what 318 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: the wolf of a wolf of Wall Street? 319 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: Did you? 320 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 2: Are you ever thinking about getting out a call center? 321 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 13: No, you know I've been thinking about doing that or 322 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 13: maybe audio engineering something like that, you know music stig 323 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 13: passionate minde beautiful man. 324 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 2: Well well, Jonathan Man, congratulations on three years and I 325 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: wish you the best of luck moving forward. Appreciate your 326 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: conn and sharing with us. 327 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 14: Hey man, I appreciate it too. 328 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 13: Low congratulations on your success, I mean gecko and uh 329 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 13: hanging in there. 330 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 2: Thank you man, I appreciate you. Have a good night. 331 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 8: YouTube by. 332 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: Hey Hey, this is Lyle chiming in again to let 333 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: you know that these next three calls I will be 334 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: accompanied by a guest. Okay, the guest's name is Attorney Tom. 335 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: He is a attorney Tom on all social medias. He 336 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: is a personal injury attorney. He's a good friend of 337 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 2: mine and he's helped me out on here with a 338 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: few calls. So yeah, I just wanted to give you 339 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: some context for that. Attorney Tom, forever love you. Let's 340 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: get back ato. 341 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 10: The calls all from Kat. 342 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, Hi? 343 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 11: Is this gek? 344 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 7: Oh my god? No way is this really? Oh my god? 345 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 7: Am I here? Is this real? 346 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 3: Let me ask you? 347 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question, and I'm gonna give 348 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: you how what year were you born? 349 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 7: I was born in ninety seven? What's up? 350 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 2: What's up? What's your name? 351 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 4: Dude? 352 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 7: Kat? You could call me Cat? 353 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 2: Cat? Hello, Okay, how are you doing? What's up? 354 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 16: Wow? 355 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 7: This is exciting. 356 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 16: Wow. 357 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 7: I never thought i'd get to talk to you. 358 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 11: This is amazing. 359 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: Well I never thought that I would get to talk 360 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: to you either. 361 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 17: Cat. 362 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, what are the odds? 363 00:17:59,560 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 16: You know? 364 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: Uh? Well, listen, I'm here, I'm here with my good friend, 365 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: Attorney Tom, and we're we're out here asking people if 366 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: they've ever been in trouble. Kat, have you ever been 367 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: in trouble? 368 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 16: Oh? 369 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, yeah, I've been in trouble. 370 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 18: Oh. 371 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 11: I don't know. 372 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 7: I don't know where I want to go with this. 373 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 7: Really yeah, I've been in trouble. 374 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, real quick, I have to add I have 375 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 2: real quick, I'm going to break the whatever here, Tom, 376 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: I have to ask I. I I felt I is 377 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: there like any fear of like, oh, I don't want 378 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: to be in the situation where this story is being 379 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: told because you're afraid of a liability or anything like that. 380 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: I wanted to check with you about that because because 381 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: on the other on that other call, I saw you 382 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 2: were you were getting nervous, and I had I had 383 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 2: to check out. 384 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 19: The other call was getting into some pretty uh you know. 385 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: Polarizing race. 386 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and you know, we're we're. 387 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 19: Trying to have fun, We're trying to learn, we're trying 388 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 19: to grow understandable, you know, and you know we're just 389 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 19: we're going down a path that yes, you know that 390 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 19: could have ruined the whole rest of the stream, you know, 391 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 19: But no, I'm not concerned. You know, people know that 392 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 19: I'm just here as a guest and I'm not their lawyer, 393 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 19: and you know, we're just we're having fun, and you know, 394 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 19: people can use their own judgment on your Tom. 395 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 7: Hey, Tom, I think it would be cool if he 396 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 7: was like part of the green screen, like if you 397 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 7: could give him like a body, like he's just in 398 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 7: a little like buck on the stream. 399 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 20: Oh, but you could have put him in the green screen. 400 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: No, I actually, I actually you know what, Cat, I 401 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: thought the exact same thing. Is like when I called Tom, 402 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 2: like right before I called the shop, I saw he 403 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 2: was in front of his green screen. I'm like, ah, fuck, 404 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: we should have done like a thing. But maybe maybe 405 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: next time, I'll you know, he and I will be 406 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: floating through space and everything. But anyway, Kat tell us, 407 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: I mean you said you don't know where to start, 408 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 2: you know, and look, start anywhere, you know, it doesn't 409 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 2: doesn't really matter where you start. 410 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 7: Okay, Well, I guess one time I got pulled over, 411 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 7: and this was when I was like twenty, I admitted 412 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 7: to having a beer and the cop was just like 413 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 7: a really big dick and I was driving fast. But 414 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 7: you know, I was like leaving work and I was 415 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 7: behind like you know, other people I worked with and 416 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 7: like it was like, you know, three am whatever, we're 417 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 7: all just driving and cop pulled me up. So I 418 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 7: was like, yeah, I had a beer because he said 419 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 7: he smelled it. He probably didn't smell anything on my bread's. 420 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: You had one beer? 421 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, okay yeah, and then so he was like, oh, 422 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 7: well that's illegal because you're underage, and yeah, so he 423 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 7: ended up I ended up going to jail that night 424 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 7: for like eight hours, and they took my breastelizer, which 425 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 7: ended up being zero, but I still had to go 426 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 7: through like whatever whatever class you admit it two months 427 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 7: or whatever. 428 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 19: Kat you know, had you got pulled over and said officer, 429 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 19: I'm not talking about my day, probably would have just 430 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 19: got a speeding ticket. 431 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: You know what. 432 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 7: Yeah, you're so right, And I wish I would have 433 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 7: known that, but I was just I was young, and 434 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 7: no one ever tells you these things. 435 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they intimidate, you know, it's intimidating. 436 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 7: Yeah, you never you never want to like just tell 437 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 7: them like straight up like yeah I've had anything. No, 438 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 7: you can't, you can't do that. 439 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 11: You have that. 440 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: You have to be respectful, you can't be a total 441 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: jerk to them. 442 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 19: But you also have to assert your rights, you know, Officer, 443 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 19: I'm not talking about my day. 444 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: Why am I pulled over? Am I free to go? 445 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 16: Yeah? 446 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 3: They say, well, why why aren't you answering questions? Huh, 447 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: that's suspicious. Why aren't you answering questions? You know, you've 448 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 3: probably been drinking, haven't you. Officer. I'm not talking about 449 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: my day. I'm sorry, I'm not talking about He was 450 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 3: just a dick. 451 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 7: He seems like his wife cooks them all the time. 452 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 11: And I just I don't don't think that. 453 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 7: You know, he's just. 454 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 18: Not a good dude. 455 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 7: He's probably racist also, so it's not good. 456 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 16: Yeah. 457 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 7: And I also I also just admittingly, I did have 458 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,159 Speaker 7: like a little bit of heroin on me, like in 459 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 7: my underwear, so I had to hide that. 460 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: It sounds like you got off easy now. 461 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 7: No one ever caught me for that, And you know what, Yeah, 462 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 7: I'm okay. 463 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: So they sent you, What did you do? What can 464 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: I What did you do with the heroin when they 465 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 2: sent you to jail? How did you? 466 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 7: Like? 467 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 8: Okay? List? 468 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 7: Okay, So it was in my pocket when they put 469 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,199 Speaker 7: me in the car, and so what I had to 470 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 7: do was like while they were searching my car because 471 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 7: they ended up finding weed in me, like in my 472 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 7: car too, because they were like, oh, well, I'm gonna 473 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 7: search your car now, so they did that. So I 474 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 7: was like, okay, well, yeah, I do have weed in 475 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 7: there whatever, which you know, since they just like, okay 476 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 7: that that's been taken. 477 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 11: Off my record because of updated wheedleles. 478 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 7: But anyways, yeah, yeah, So it was in my pocket 479 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 7: and I'm sitting in the back of the car. I 480 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 7: have to finesse my you know, handcuffed hands behind me 481 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 7: into my pocket where I dig around find it. 482 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 6: It's like in a. 483 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 11: Little wrap up piece of oil. 484 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 7: And then I moved that into my like into my jeans. 485 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 7: I was wearing skinny jeans, so they were really tight, 486 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 7: so I could just like, you know, it was it 487 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 7: was not gonna go anywhere, So it was in my 488 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 7: like in between. 489 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 18: My thigh and my pants. 490 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 11: So yeah, it was in there. 491 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 7: And then it was even even weirder because I had 492 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 7: to use the bathroom like when I got to the station, 493 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 7: and they have to supervise you like when you do that, 494 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 7: so I had to be like so careful. I like 495 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 7: made eye contact with the cops, you know, and just 496 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 7: like you know, just like trying to use the bathroom, 497 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 7: just being. 498 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 11: Awkward about it. 499 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 7: But yeah, luckily it didn't fall out or anything. So 500 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 7: so yeah, yeah, I got away with. 501 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 2: Bringing heroin into into jail. 502 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 11: Yeah, which you know, I ended up. 503 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 9: I got out of jail, so. 504 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: Not that I can do it, but you got you 505 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: got off very easy. That that that was. That was 506 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: quite a plot twist here. 507 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 7: Well, no, it was kind of. It was. 508 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 20: It was a little annoying. 509 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 11: Honestly, I don't I wouldn't say it was. 510 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 9: It took a lot of. 511 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 7: You know, time out of my life. 512 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 2: Oh, taken way more. 513 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 7: Okay, listen, listen. The lawyer I had, the lawyer you 514 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 7: get for court really matters. The lawyer I. 515 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 11: Had was a piece of shit. 516 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 7: He was a grubby ass, old, old fucking fuck and 517 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 7: he just he did not handle my case very well, 518 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 7: and I'm upset about it. He ended up, you know 519 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 7: what happened to him. 520 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 18: He ended up. 521 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 7: So he was like a guy my dad knew. He 522 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 7: was like friends with my dad, and my dad doesn't know. 523 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 11: Very great people. 524 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,439 Speaker 7: But yeah, so it turns out this guy isn't a 525 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 7: lawyer anymore. He's on the run because he lost the 526 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 7: case to some guy, and that guy started making threats 527 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 7: to him. 528 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 11: So now he's out of the office. 529 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 7: So yeah, you hear that tam me better? You better 530 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 7: not fuck up? 531 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,360 Speaker 2: Whoa heyday? 532 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 11: No? 533 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? Why why? Why was he so bad? What you 534 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 2: like about him? 535 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 7: I'm sure? Well, what I didn't like about him is like, 536 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 7: you know, he's like he just didn't fight that hard. 537 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 7: He didn't. He could have been like, oh, well, you 538 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 7: can't prove that she was drinking because my rest was 539 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 7: a zero. They couldn't have proved it anyway. 540 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 19: Yes, they could have proved it, you know why because 541 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 19: they Okay, I'm going to put the officer on the stand. 542 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 7: Just because I say it doesn't mean I did it. 543 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 19: I mean, that's pretty tough to uh, I'm going to 544 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 19: put the officer on the stand in front of dry 545 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 19: When you go, mister officer, what did miss cat tell 546 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 19: you when she was in the back of the police car. 547 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: She told me that she'd been drinking. Are you sure 548 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: that's what she said? Yes? Okay, miss Cat? Did you 549 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,120 Speaker 3: tell the officer you've been drinking? Yes? 550 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 7: Okay, Well, so what was her brustolizer? 551 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 9: What was objection? 552 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 19: By the time you take a breath of objection irrelevant. 553 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 19: By the time you take a breathalyzer, you your one 554 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 19: drink has been processed, but you're an underage drinker. It's 555 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 19: not even allowed under the wall. 556 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 10: Hmm. 557 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 2: I want a T shirt with objection irrelevant on it. 558 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: I guess relevant it not irrelevant. I'm sorry. I've been 559 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 3: in court a long time. Objection relevance. 560 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: Well, Cat, Uh, I'm sure. I'm sure that you've got, 561 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: you know, a lot lots more stories to tell. But 562 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 2: I think I think we're bad at a time here. 563 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: Oh okay, but thank you for calling in and uh, 564 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 2: you know, bearing your soul to us. 565 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 11: Yeah. 566 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 7: I'm just kind of bored. 567 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 2: Aren't we all? Yeah, thank you, Cat, I'll talk to 568 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 2: you soon. 569 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 3: Well do we think that was real? 570 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 2: Uh? You know what, Tom, I've been doing. I've been 571 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 2: taking calls with strangers and having people tell me things 572 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 2: for you know, the uh not not a really long time. 573 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: But I no longer asked that. I don't think any 574 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,239 Speaker 2: I don't think it matters if it was real at 575 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 2: the end of the day. 576 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess for set. 577 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,679 Speaker 19: You know, reality is just what we perceive exactly, you know, 578 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 19: if we can. I mean, that was a pretty clear 579 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 19: picture in our head, so I mean it existed in 580 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 19: our minds at the. 581 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 3: Sam, Sam, what's up seeing? 582 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 12: Oh I'm doing all right. I'm actually pretty new to 583 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 12: uh the therapy got go? Oh hell yeah apparently got so. Yeah, 584 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 12: I have. 585 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 3: A list of prime a whole list. 586 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 12: I mean, well I don't know about a whole list. 587 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: Well here let me tell you. You know, look, let 588 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: me tell you something about therapy. Gecko is we we 589 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 2: appreciate you know when people come in prepared. Sam. So, 590 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: I'm glad you made a list. 591 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 10: Yes. 592 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 12: Like I said, I'm new, so I don't really know 593 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 12: a whole lot actually just sub today. 594 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 2: Oh thank you Bill. Well, what's what's number? What's let's 595 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 2: let's start at the top. What's what's on What's on 596 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 2: your list? 597 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 12: I'd say probably the first was like criminal trespass, that's 598 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 12: really not that big of a deal. 599 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 3: Well what what what about criminal trespass? Is there a 600 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: question or just the subject in general? 601 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 12: Just the subject in general. I never really got convicted 602 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 12: or anything for it, but when I was seventeen, I 603 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 12: did get a DUI. 604 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: Has that affected you in your in your later life? 605 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 12: Yeah, because I couldn't drive until it was like eighteen. 606 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 12: But then also I also got my license taken away 607 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 12: again because I had a fake ID when I was 608 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 12: like eighteen. 609 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 3: Does did your fake ID have somebody else's name on it? 610 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 9: Yes? 611 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 8: My brothers too. 612 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 9: Yeah. 613 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 12: It was also not even the same state. Some old 614 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 12: man who looks like Santa Claus just took it from 615 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 12: me at a sketchy gas station. 616 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: But some some random guy he took it from you. 617 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 12: Yeah, I was like, hey, that's my license, I need it. 618 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 12: But he scanned it under the machine and it said 619 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 12: I was a thousand years old, so it didn't work. 620 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 2: Which which is the thing? And I remember this like 621 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 2: in high school when people were using fake id's and 622 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: stuff like, which is the one that's worse using like 623 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 2: like creating a fake person or using someone else's thing? 624 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: Which is the one you get more fun? We'll, we'll, 625 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: we'll both. 626 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 3: They'd listen here, Yeah, okay, listen chat. 627 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 19: I'm not advocating for people to get fake IDs. However, 628 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 19: if you have a fake ID, it's a lot better 629 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 19: if you use your own name and just fake the 630 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 19: day of birth, because in the alternative it can be 631 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 19: identity fraud. And even if you create a name like 632 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 19: make up a name, odd Dog, there's somebody with that name, 633 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 19: and that's identity fraud and that can be a lot worse. 634 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 19: And I actually personally know somebody who kind of was 635 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 19: in my high school like sphere. I wasn't really you know, 636 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 19: friends with her, but uh, you know, we would go 637 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 19: off to college. 638 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 3: And then a year later he goes, oh did you 639 00:31:59,360 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 3: hear so? 640 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 19: And so I got convicted of a felony for having 641 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 19: an ID with somebody else's identity. 642 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 3: I mean that's a bad beat, you know. 643 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: Bad beat. 644 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, no. So also that's that's kind of the 645 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 12: thing that happened is I went, you know, and then 646 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 12: the guy who was working at the gas station gave 647 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 12: it to the police department, and then the police department 648 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 12: came to my house and then they tried to arrest 649 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 12: me for impersonation of someone else. But then they realized 650 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 12: that it was just my brother's fake ID that he 651 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 12: gave to me after he turned twenty one. 652 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: Oh, so it was your brother's fake ID, but it 653 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: was his It was your brother's brother's real ID that 654 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 2: he was using. 655 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 12: Ah, okay, no, no, no, no, it was his brother's 656 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 12: fake So he got it when he was underage and 657 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,479 Speaker 12: then he just gave it to me because it kind 658 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 12: of like looked like. 659 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 2: Hm hm, and your brother got up yeah, free. It 660 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 2: worked for him. 661 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it worked for him. But then like, well, 662 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 12: actually his got taken once, but that's a whole nother story. 663 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 8: So it was like a spare. 664 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 9: But uh yeah. 665 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 12: So I was like basically put in the back of 666 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 12: a cop car and then just they sat me in 667 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 12: my driveway and they yelled at the police officer and 668 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 12: also brandished a knife at him. That was like a 669 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 12: whole another thing. 670 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, your brother brandished a knife at the 671 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: police officer. 672 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 12: No I did. 673 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 3: Oh it's not smart. No, it just wasn't a good move. 674 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: No, no, no. 675 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 12: Well yeah I know it wasn't a good move. 676 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 9: Now. 677 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 12: I mean I was drunk at the. 678 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 2: Time, and I mean, did you did you get arrested 679 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 2: that night? Did you spend that night in jail? 680 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 11: No? 681 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 12: No, actually I didn't. He actually let me go after 682 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 12: my mom talked to him. 683 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 4: Wow, because I was. 684 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 12: Like eighteen years old in college. I mean, I'm in 685 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 12: high school. 686 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: Your mom must have the gift of gab. 687 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 12: I mean she kind of does. I mean I got 688 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 12: pulled over like maybe like a month ago when I 689 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 12: was driving back from Colorado after like Thanksgiving. 690 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: How did your mom convince a cop not to arrest 691 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: you after you pulled a knife on him? 692 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 9: Uh? 693 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 12: Well, it was actually the police officer that kind of 694 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 12: did did that. He was kind of just like, hey, buddy, 695 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 12: don't do that ever again. But I took it out 696 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 12: of my pocket, I plucked it open. So I'm surprised 697 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 12: he didn't shoot me right then in there. 698 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 2: That's cow on. I can't believe that he let you 699 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: go after that. He just said, hey, buddy, don't do 700 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: it again. 701 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 12: Pretty much. 702 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 703 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 12: But it was two am. He actually like he came 704 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 12: to my house. He knocked on my door. I was 705 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 12: already asleep, like I was drinking all night, and then 706 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 12: he came to my door. My mom woke me up. 707 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 12: She's like, put some put some pants on. There's a 708 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 12: police officer who wants to talk to you. But you know, 709 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 12: they always liked to stop and ask if you have 710 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 12: any weapons before you get in the cob car. Okay, 711 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 12: And so I took out my knife and I flicked 712 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 12: it open at him, and I was like, yeah, I 713 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 12: have this knife, but I mean like it was open 714 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 12: and pointed at him. 715 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 3: I think we shouldion this, we should probably pivot stories. Yeah, 716 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: that's probably let's just let's just recap. 717 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 19: It with your very fortunate Yes, the same dead for 718 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 19: a lot of people. 719 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I agree. I mean what what what 720 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: would you say? 721 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 4: Your name was Sam? 722 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: Sam? What are you? What are you doing now with 723 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 2: you know, this second chance at life that you've been given? 724 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 12: Currently nothing. I've been trying to get jobs at a 725 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 12: job at a bar, but it didn't work out. It 726 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 12: didn't work out because it didn't show up. 727 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 3: M that will, that will generally do it. Well, why 728 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 3: didn't you show up? 729 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 12: Because it was a very uh toxic workplace environment. I 730 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 12: was probably working there for like two weeks. 731 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 2: Oh so why did you apply in the first place? 732 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 2: Did you not know it was toxic until then? 733 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 5: No? 734 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 12: I mean I didn't. So I worked there for two 735 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 12: weeks and I was like, hey, this kind of messed up. 736 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: Well what was toxic about? 737 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 12: Didn't show up? 738 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 11: Well? 739 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 3: I think you could do. So was the move not 740 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 3: showing up? Or do you think you should have just 741 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 3: let him put him on notice that you're quitting. 742 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 12: I mean I probably should have told him, but it 743 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 12: was like the day of like I had an epiphany 744 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 12: sort of. 745 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 14: It was actually I was supposed to show. 746 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 12: Up New Year's Day and I had epiphany this last 747 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 12: New years. 748 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 2: An e. 749 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 12: It was not a good idea. Yeah, yeah, it was 750 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 12: not a good idea. 751 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: To not show up. 752 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 12: Yes, because it was a bad job. And also my 753 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 12: brother kind of talked me out of it. 754 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 4: So what your name was? 755 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: One more time? Sorry, I'm bad with names, Sam, Sam? Well, Sam, listen, 756 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: as we've established, you've been giving a second chance at life, 757 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 2: and you know, good luck to you. Hope that you 758 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 2: spend it wisely and you have a good night. 759 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 9: My guy. 760 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 12: Yeah. Also, thank you of course having me be a 761 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 12: part of this show. And even though it was kind 762 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 12: of all over the place with all of everything I said, 763 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 12: I really appreciate it. A lot of your tiktoks. That's 764 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 12: actually kind of. 765 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 8: What got me to join. 766 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: Thank you, man, I appreciate Thank you man. You have 767 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: a good night. Sam. 768 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 12: Yeah, you as well. 769 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 2: Hello, how are you. 770 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 8: Okay? 771 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 2: Can you get can you are you? Can you get 772 00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 2: any closer to the phone. 773 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 11: I'm at the phone right now. 774 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 2: What's your name? 775 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,160 Speaker 7: Can you hear me? 776 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 11: Oh? 777 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 2: I can hear you? What's your name? 778 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 11: Caroline. 779 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: Caroline, Caroline, how are you doing? Caroline? 780 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 11: I am fantastic. 781 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 15: How are you? 782 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 2: I'm doing? I'm doing all right. I'm doing all right. Caroline. Uh, 783 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 2: do you have anything? Do you have a think on 784 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: your that you just want to get off your chest? Caroline? 785 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 11: Okay, So you guys were this is a lawyer and right, 786 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 11: and you were asking if you've done any crime. I 787 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 11: think I have some crimes to admit to. 788 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,720 Speaker 2: Okay, Okay. 789 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 11: Sometimes I scam old men off the internet for money. 790 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 11: Oh I think that's a crime, isn't it. 791 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 3: Well hold on, let's let's go into this. Are you 792 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 3: promising something that you're not delivering on? 793 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 7: Yes? 794 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know. This is why I know. 795 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 19: Look, I want to be careful with the questions I ask, 796 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 19: but you know I would think that you know, like, 797 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 19: are you talking about like a sugar daddy type of site? 798 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 16: Yeah? 799 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 14: I okay. 800 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 11: So I have done like the cam model stuff before, 801 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 11: and that has given me like a following of old men. 802 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,959 Speaker 11: And sometimes they message me and they're like, hey, i'll 803 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 11: pay you for this, send it to me. And I'm like, 804 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 11: all right, send me the money first, and then they 805 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 11: send me the money on my book. 806 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 19: Yeah, no, I think, I think, I think under those pretenses, 807 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 19: that's that's probably a scam. That's I would I would 808 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 19: even go as far as to say that you have 809 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 19: an oral contract, if not maybe even a renten contract, 810 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 19: if it's over text for you know, money in exchange 811 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 19: for services and you know you're not performing. Now, the 812 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 19: logical follow up to that is, you know, generally I 813 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 19: would anticipate nobody wants to follow through with enforcing that 814 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 19: through because one, it would be embarrassing for them. In two, 815 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 19: you know, lawyers charge hundreds of dollars an hour. I'm 816 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 19: not sure how much you're particularly charging, but you know, 817 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 19: if a lawyer is going to work on a case 818 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 19: for a minimum of one hundred hours, it would have 819 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 19: to be a substantial amount of money that you are 820 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 19: charging for it to make economic sense for them to 821 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 19: bring a lawsuit against you to enforce. But yeah, I mean, 822 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 19: I think, I think technically what you're doing is scamming. 823 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 2: But now these services, like these services that you are 824 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 2: claiming that you are are are promising but not delivering. 825 00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 2: There are there are they in the first place? Legal services? 826 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 2: Are they legal services? 827 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,120 Speaker 18: I don't know, I'm. 828 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 11: Not sure about the laws on that and stuff. 829 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 14: I probably should where I do it, right, but. 830 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 3: Well, it's like only fans is legal. 831 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, you know, so long as you're you know, 832 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 19: an adult, which you are, and the other person's an adult, 833 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 19: and you know it's all in exchange over phone, you know, 834 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 19: like you know in some some states you know, like 835 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 19: you know, not to get too into it, but you know, 836 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 19: like in Nevada, like prostitution, right, but that's I'm pretty 837 00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 19: sure the only state where that's illegal. But we're not 838 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 19: talking about that. Hey, my girlfriends, we're talking about only fans. 839 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 19: We're talking about only fans in prostitution. 840 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 2: Al Rachel, how are you. 841 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 15: So? 842 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,240 Speaker 2: She came at? She came at a good time. Hello 843 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 2: the So. So you you were into cam you weren 844 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 2: into cam modeling, but you got out of it. 845 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 11: Yeah. I did it for a while and then I 846 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 11: got out of it and I had a boyfriend. I 847 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 11: was like, you can't do that. So I was like, okay, 848 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 11: whatever because I was done. And then I grew up 849 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 11: with him and now I have a lovely girlfriend and 850 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 11: she sometimes helps me out with these acts. I don't 851 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 11: do it like all the time, and I don't do 852 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 11: it for like large amounts of money. It's just whenever 853 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 11: I'm like feeling a little crazy and somebody DMed me 854 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 11: and they're like, can I get this? 855 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 21: You know what I mean? 856 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 11: Just occasionally. It's not all the time, but it is, 857 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 11: I think the only crime that I have. 858 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 2: But if so, if you have like a bunch of 859 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 2: what I'm curious about is if you have a bunch 860 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 2: of followers, like are you are you still doing like 861 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 2: not like scamming people like actual like cam model then 862 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 2: like OnlyFans or anything. 863 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 11: Okay, I did it was it was just like a 864 00:43:57,080 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 11: cam It was just like a cam site. Yeah, So 865 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 11: I don't do it as much anymore because and then 866 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 11: it's a campsite. And then I stopped doing it, and 867 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 11: then I started doing it again, but some of them 868 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 11: found out my Instagram somehow. Also, I just have some 869 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 11: creepy men that's all on my Instagram and asked for 870 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 11: things because creepy men often do that to young women 871 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 11: on social media. 872 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 2: So are you are you glad to be you know, 873 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 2: out of out of this this uh world of caning. 874 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 6: I'm sort of indifferent to it. 875 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 15: Really. 876 00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 11: I I was fine with it, and then I found 877 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 11: out one day, I don't know why I didn't know this, 878 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 11: but I looked up my user name and I I 879 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 11: looked at my username and and the images of just 880 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,719 Speaker 11: like everything, and I was like, I have got to 881 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 11: I can't do this anymore because I also use my 882 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 11: user name for like other I don't know, like just sits. 883 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 11: Where are like like my private snapshot or likes that 884 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 11: I have? And I was like, I cannot do this anymore. 885 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 11: So I don't want her gababies to scene. Yeah, I'm 886 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 11: with my girlfriend right now. Actually, she okay, so we 887 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 11: have both calling the number a lot. 888 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 20: She finally caught it. 889 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 2: What's what I want to hear about her crimes as well? 890 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 11: Okay, here's Lily. 891 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 22: I mean, I don't really have any crimes. I think 892 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 22: she's she's the wide one, and I kind of I 893 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 22: kind of mother her. 894 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,760 Speaker 2: You're more of an accomplished type. 895 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 22: Yeah, I mean, like I like, I'm I guess I'm 896 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,759 Speaker 22: more of like the I'm younger, but I'm more of 897 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 22: like the older one. I tell her to like clean 898 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 22: her room and stuff. But the ironic thing, the ironic 899 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 22: thing about it is that I call her mommy. 900 00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 21: And what I'm sorry. 901 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 3: I can hear the embarrassment in her voice from here, I'm. 902 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 21: Gonna getublem Sorry you publicly apologize to her that I 903 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 21: said that. To how many people are on this, I'm sorry. 904 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 3: It's okay. 905 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,719 Speaker 19: There's only like four hundred and sixty people, and I 906 00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 19: promise you it's only like seventy percent chance of that 907 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 19: getting clipped, of course. 908 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 9: I mean, I don't mind. 909 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 21: I don't think honestly, nobody knows who we are. 910 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 22: Sometimes you make PI talks about it, though, so that's 911 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 22: pay back. Okay, Sorry, that's all right, I don't mind. 912 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 21: I like the attention. 913 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm glad that you you guys seem 914 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 2: like you have a good uh you have a very 915 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 2: well oiled conflict resolution machine between you two you. I 916 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 2: feel like you guys resolved that dispute fairly quickly. 917 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a healthy relationship. 918 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: Don't definitely, But. 919 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 11: We like never fight. 920 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 21: Maybe that's a bad thing. 921 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 23: Oh my god, do you. 922 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 2: Think you think that's you think that's a bad thing 923 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,839 Speaker 2: that you guys never fights? Is that is that you 924 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 2: do you consider that to be healthy in a relationship 925 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,359 Speaker 2: having you. 926 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 22: Know, I don't know, it's not, but we you know, 927 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 22: we've only been dating for like five months. 928 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:24,120 Speaker 15: There hasn't been like an issue big enough for our 929 00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,879 Speaker 15: argument like it would it would not be healthy if 930 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 15: we had an issue that was argument worthy and you 931 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 15: just like sort of shoved it down. 932 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 22: Yeah, like I don't and I'm just not going to 933 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 22: argue with you. I'm just gonna like, listen, I'm being 934 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 22: all right. I'm just too chilled up for that. But 935 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 22: we're afraid about what our first fight will be. We 936 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 22: like guess what we think it'll be, and like it 937 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 22: will start it like we're kind of worried about it. 938 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 2: I had five months is is is pretty good for 939 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 2: you know, no fights. 940 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 22: Thanks, we appreciate it. So we'll see maybe maybe if 941 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 22: we have a fight, will product come on and tell 942 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:00,879 Speaker 22: you about it. 943 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 3: We'll try to mediate it. 944 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 24: Oh my god, Oh my god. 945 00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 2: We got to do that. The couple's canceling night. 946 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,839 Speaker 22: Oh my god, that would be such a good idea. 947 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 2: Couples counseling, couples counseling. Well, uh, Caroline, Lily, thank you 948 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 2: guys for for calling in and uh, you know, I 949 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 2: wish you. I wish you to all the happiness in 950 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:25,959 Speaker 2: the world. 951 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 22: Thank you. 952 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 2: By can I guess. 953 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, so so that's totally scamming. You know, it's totally yeah. 954 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 3: I was I was hesitant at the beginning. You know, 955 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 3: I thought, maybe she's going with the direction, like you know, 956 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 3: she's like just flirting with these old guys and they 957 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 3: just throw money at her. And you know I would 958 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 3: have said, that's the old guys problem, you know. But right, 959 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 3: but but she was promising photos or services and you know, 960 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 3: just took their mind even blocked. 961 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 2: But you I mean, but you, I mean you you 962 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 2: were totally correct when you're like, well, all right, who's 963 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,360 Speaker 2: who's going to go to a uh you know, file 964 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 2: a lawsuit against someone for not you know, sending them right? 965 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,600 Speaker 3: Totally It's it's totally unrealistic, you know, on the civil 966 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 3: side for somebody to go through that process, you know, 967 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:25,320 Speaker 3: be embarrassing, it be expensive, and you're probably only arguing 968 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 3: over like, you know, a few hundred bucks. 969 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 2: You know. I do wonder if if there's gotta be 970 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 2: someone who does who's not embarrassed at all, who who 971 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 2: uh has there's gotta have been a lawsuit about that 972 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 2: at some point. 973 00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,919 Speaker 3: I bet, yeah, one hundred percent. 974 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 19: I'm just playing the statistics, you know, you know, there's 975 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 19: probably some guy, you know, like there's been people who 976 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 19: have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars suing over like 977 00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 19: one hundred dollars, like, you know, it's the principle of 978 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 19: the matter, like that kind of thing. So if somebody 979 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 19: really had you know, had it out for miss Caroline, 980 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 19: you know, but I mean, come on, let's get real, 981 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,839 Speaker 19: and then if that ever happened, Caroline could just be like, yeah, 982 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 19: here's your money back, go away, you. 983 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 2: Know, right right, So she's she's got a good thing going. 984 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 2: Not that I endorse any illegal activity of any kind. 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How are you, John. 1013 00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 9: Man? 1014 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 6: I'm hanging in there. 1015 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:22,760 Speaker 2: And where? 1016 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 8: Oh well, I'm in the part of the US. 1017 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 4: Man, Wyoming, Kansas? 1018 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 2: Do you like Kansas? 1019 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,600 Speaker 8: I've been in better places? 1020 00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 9: Man. 1021 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 8: You know what a third culture kid is? 1022 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 2: What third culture culture kid? 1023 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1024 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:47,439 Speaker 2: No, what is a third culture kid? 1025 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 8: That's a child who has grown up in a country 1026 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,879 Speaker 8: other than their parents origin or the nationality in which 1027 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:05,879 Speaker 8: they are. So I just wanted to tell you a story. Man, 1028 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 8: I caught to you about I don't know an hour ago. 1029 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 4: Please, yeah, can I go? 1030 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,320 Speaker 8: I'm sorry you got something. 1031 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 2: No, no, no, don't be sorry. You want to tell 1032 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,320 Speaker 2: me a story. 1033 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, you've been giving me theraphy since I was eight. Man, 1034 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 8: I'm a forty five year old man, and you have 1035 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 8: taken me back to a time that brings me joy. 1036 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,560 Speaker 8: It was scary when I was seven and my parents 1037 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 8: told me we're moving to Africa. We were leaving Nebraska. 1038 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,520 Speaker 8: My dad wanted to be a missionary, and we got 1039 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 8: to Liberia five days before I turned eight. And the 1040 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 8: first night we were there, we went to our new 1041 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,120 Speaker 8: home and up in the corner of the room was 1042 00:53:55,120 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 8: a gecko. And my mom got my sister and she 1043 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,799 Speaker 8: was four, and said, hey, we got a pet. It's 1044 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 8: a get go. Look what should we name it? And 1045 00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:14,919 Speaker 8: we named it Peter, and we were like, all right, cool. 1046 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 8: We lived there for a couple of days and we 1047 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 8: moved to a new house and in the new house 1048 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 8: there was a gecko. Because this is tropical West Africa 1049 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 8: and there's a gecko in every room in every house. 1050 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,839 Speaker 8: But I didn't know that because I was seven, and 1051 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,800 Speaker 8: my mom says, look, there's a gecko. It's a repeat. 1052 00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 8: And so being seven, growing up overseas in a strange 1053 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 8: foreign country, I got comfort every time I went somewhere 1054 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 8: and I saw get go. It's the weirdest thing. Man, 1055 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 8: I may be crazy, but I just caught you to night. 1056 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 8: Thought i'd listen in and try to give you a 1057 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 8: call and tell you my story. That's all I got 1058 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 8: for you. 1059 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 2: Man, tell me what is it about these geckos that 1060 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,239 Speaker 2: give you comfort? They reminded you of oh that time? 1061 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 8: No, yeah, yeah, well we always called geckos repeats now 1062 00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 8: my family, so we got little like stuff being back 1063 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 8: geckos and stuff that we've got from you know, mementos 1064 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,480 Speaker 8: and things like that. But it was just being seven 1065 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 8: and having been uprooted growing up and you know, the 1066 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 8: middle of the country in the US, and then all 1067 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,880 Speaker 8: of a sudden you're flying like three thousand miles across 1068 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 8: the world and you land in this country seven degrees 1069 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 8: north of the equator and it's ninety eight degrees all 1070 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,839 Speaker 8: day every day, and you walk out and you've got 1071 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 8: no friends. Everybody everybody's African, you're white. You know, you're 1072 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,880 Speaker 8: just this little kid and having some continuity in their life. 1073 00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,879 Speaker 8: You know, it wasn't a big deal. It's not really 1074 00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 8: a big deal. It's just cool that you know you're 1075 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 8: up to get go and it took me back, but. 1076 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:05,880 Speaker 17: I love that you. 1077 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,840 Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right. My mom, you know, firston to hear me. 1078 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:12,080 Speaker 8: She gave it to me. 1079 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 2: Do you do you think of that every time you 1080 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 2: see it? I mean, I don't know how often you 1081 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:19,120 Speaker 2: see a geck go out in the wild before you 1082 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 2: know the stream, But do you think of that every 1083 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 2: time you see a gecko out in the wild? 1084 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 16: Oh? 1085 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's totally a family joke, you know. 1086 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 8: So every time I see a geck go, I think back. 1087 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 3: How long? 1088 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:33,480 Speaker 2: How long were you in Liberia for? 1089 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 8: I got there five days before I turned eight, and 1090 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 8: I was there and at Christmas in eighty nine when 1091 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:45,640 Speaker 8: the Civil War broke out, you know, we had just left. 1092 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 8: We got the call five days at Christmas, basically when 1093 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 8: the rebels came in the country. We got the phone call. 1094 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 8: And I'm in ninth grade and my parents go, hey, John, safety, 1095 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 8: that's my sister. They said there's been a coup. The 1096 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 8: rebels have come in from member county and they're trying, 1097 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 8: you know, they're marching on the capitol. And as a 1098 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 8: kid growing up, you know, in school, we had a 1099 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 8: coup every year, like it was, you know, once or 1100 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 8: twice a year, somebody had cut over through the government. 1101 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,320 Speaker 8: We'd wake up in the morning, they'd do it. No 1102 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 8: school today. We'd be like, oh, it's a snow day, 1103 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,200 Speaker 8: you know, like, no school, We're going back tomorrow, right. 1104 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 8: But that civil war, man, that worker, I don't know 1105 00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,959 Speaker 8: if you know the history of Liberia at all, since 1106 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 8: eighty nine, From nineteen eighty nine till two thousand and five, 1107 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 8: that country was in civil war. So I lost all 1108 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,920 Speaker 8: my friends that I grew up with over there. You know. 1109 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 8: I got a few American friends obviously, and international friends 1110 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,760 Speaker 8: from there, but the village kid I grew up with 1111 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 8: were all and who knows what happened to them. 1112 00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 2: Did you have friends that were killed? 1113 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 8: I'm sure there probably were, man, But I was living 1114 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 8: close enough to the capital city that pretty much everybody 1115 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 8: came from the interior of the country to the capital city. 1116 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 8: So the fighting arrived eventually, but by then it was 1117 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 8: pretty much a done deal. It wasn't. I don't think 1118 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 8: any of my friends ended up being child soldiers or 1119 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,280 Speaker 8: actually being killed at all, but it is quite possible. 1120 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 2: Good, So you were there, So let's see. So let 1121 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 2: you left in ninth grade. 1122 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,800 Speaker 8: Right, left in ninth grade. Fully expected to go back 1123 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,960 Speaker 8: in the next three years of high school in Liberia 1124 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 8: before I'd graduated come back to the States. But because 1125 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 8: the war broke out, my parents got reassigned and I 1126 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,520 Speaker 8: ended up in Nigeria instead. 1127 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 2: She stayed in Africa. He didn't go back to When 1128 00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 2: When did you eventually go back to the US. 1129 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,360 Speaker 8: I came back to the States for college, but from 1130 00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 8: third grade all the way through the end of high school, 1131 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 8: man I was in I was in Libera in Nigeria, 1132 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,280 Speaker 8: left Africa for all but sixteen months. 1133 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 2: Wow, what was it like coming back from What was 1134 00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,840 Speaker 2: it like going to the US from Africa? And like, 1135 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 2: you know, still you know, you're you're you know you're 1136 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 2: white and you have a you know, American accent, but 1137 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:09,760 Speaker 2: you know, you're the culture is still you know, different. 1138 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,960 Speaker 8: A lot of people have Yeah, a lot of people 1139 00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,520 Speaker 8: have a lot of trouble with that. There's a lot 1140 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 8: of missionary kids to have trouble with that. I didn't. 1141 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,640 Speaker 8: I'm a bit of a chameleon. I kind of fit 1142 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 8: in everywhere. 1143 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 2: You know, Okay, you had less trouble you you say 1144 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,880 Speaker 2: you so you would consider yourself adaptable in general. 1145 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,760 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, absolutely inflexible, there's no question about that. 1146 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:32,920 Speaker 9: M h. 1147 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,320 Speaker 8: Yeah. I go anywhere. I got friends all over the world, 1148 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:42,040 Speaker 8: all different nationalities, all different races, all different religious backgrounds. 1149 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 8: You know, my parents like, you know, I heard you 1150 00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 8: talking about your bar Mitzvah and you hadn't talked to God. 1151 00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,240 Speaker 8: I pretty much don't go to church anymore either. Then 1152 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 8: I grew up in the on the mission field. 1153 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, is that a conscious decision? Did you decide 1154 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,680 Speaker 2: to leave the church for a particular reason? 1155 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 8: Not really a little bit of its blowback what happened 1156 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 8: with my dad though he had been working and born 1157 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 8: his you know, soul into theological education, that extension, which 1158 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 8: is a program of taking seminary classes to leaders of 1159 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,800 Speaker 8: churches that couldn't come to seminary and they basically, well 1160 01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,600 Speaker 8: they asked that program, asked her about fifteen years of 1161 01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 8: him doing it, and the way they handled it wasn't 1162 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 8: very impressive. He he and he left the mission field, 1163 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,160 Speaker 8: came back to the States, and you know he pastors 1164 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 8: a small church now here in campus, thirty eight people. 1165 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 2: But how does he feel about the fact that you 1166 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 2: don't go to church anymore? 1167 01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,920 Speaker 8: Well, he's not happy about it, but you know, he's 1168 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 8: like for me to come with him. But you know, 1169 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 8: he's go to the church, but I don't. But they 1170 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,440 Speaker 8: don't bug me about it. 1171 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 2: It's because they don't bug you about it. What do 1172 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 2: you what do you do now? 1173 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 8: Oh, I'm in corporate finance. I look at mergers and acquisitions. 1174 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 8: I'm trying toigure out how to finance power plant solar 1175 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 8: power plants in a regulated utility environment. It's pretty boring, 1176 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,040 Speaker 8: very mass and finance based. But it is what I do. 1177 01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:19,360 Speaker 8: My talent and Joe Numbers always asked, do you. 1178 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 2: Does what you do? Do you feel? I mean you 1179 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 2: use you? You know where else have you spent extended 1180 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 2: amounts of time in besides Africa? You said you have 1181 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,600 Speaker 2: friends all over the world. Or was it that you 1182 01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 2: had like friends in Africa that then went all over 1183 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 2: the world. 1184 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:38,000 Speaker 8: Well, yeah that they I met them all in Library 1185 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 8: and Nigeria. But when you get to school, every semester 1186 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 8: pretty much. Twenty five percent of the class is new. 1187 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 8: You know, people are going on furlough, they're coming back 1188 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 8: after a year being gone, that sort of thing. So 1189 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:51,920 Speaker 8: you're always constantly making new friends and losing friends. I mean, 1190 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,720 Speaker 8: the only constant in your life is the fact that 1191 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 8: your friends are going to change. People are going to 1192 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 8: come and go from your life. That's just it. That's 1193 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,040 Speaker 8: just the way it is. I don't have the only 1194 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 8: you asked another caller, how many you know, close friends 1195 01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 8: you had? I had one. He passed away in Hawaii, 1196 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 8: drunk one night and high and jumped off the edge 1197 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 8: of the east east side of the Big Islands and drowned. 1198 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 2: Sorry to hear that, Yeah, I. 1199 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:21,880 Speaker 8: Appreciate it was, you know, eighteen years ago. But but yeah, 1200 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:24,920 Speaker 8: people come and go. You know, you make fast friends. 1201 01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 8: When you see him again ten years later, you pick 1202 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:28,960 Speaker 8: up like it never happened, like you know, you know, 1203 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 8: you never missed him totally. Yeah. 1204 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. 1205 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:37,920 Speaker 2: Do you are you married? 1206 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 9: Uh? 1207 01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 8: Going through a divorce? Man? 1208 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 2: So sorry to hear that. 1209 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate it. Yes, I am there. I got 1210 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,200 Speaker 8: two kids. They're wonderful. One's a senior in high school. 1211 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:59,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, have they been. Uh uh Are they well traveled? 1212 01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 2: Did you take them around different places? Did you have 1213 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 2: you taken your kids back to, like Africa to show 1214 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 2: them sort of where you grew up. 1215 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,040 Speaker 8: I have not yet. The last time I was in 1216 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 8: Africa was in nineteen ninety seven. 1217 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, Well what were you doing back there? 1218 01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:20,520 Speaker 8: Well? I graduated from high college and my sister was 1219 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 8: graduated from high school, so I went back for her 1220 01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 8: college high school graduation. Nice o, good, that's the last time. 1221 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 8: It was a lot different back then. Man. I was 1222 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 8: a little nine year old white kid running around Monrovia, Liberia, 1223 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 8: seven degrees north of the equator, where everybody is everybody's black, 1224 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 8: and they watched out for the little kids, you know, 1225 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 8: they watched out for the little white kid. They didn't, 1226 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 8: you know, have people trying to kidnap you and hold 1227 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 8: you for ransom. That's what's happening out there now. You know, 1228 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,360 Speaker 8: it's a horrible place to be, But it wasn't like 1229 01:03:52,440 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 8: that when I was there in the eighties. When people 1230 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 8: say where are you from, John, I always go how 1231 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 8: far back do you want me to go? Because my 1232 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 8: dad was still in the Navy when I was born 1233 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:14,400 Speaker 8: in Iceland, so it is a story journey. 1234 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 12: I've been on. 1235 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 2: Do you do you aspire in the future, I mean, 1236 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 2: you know, after sort of being planted in Kansas, do 1237 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:27,640 Speaker 2: you aspire to travel again once you know they're killing us? 1238 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 8: Yeah? No, no kidding, man, Uh yes, I want to. 1239 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 8: I want to go all over the place again. I'm 1240 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,440 Speaker 8: getting start crazy, there's no doubt. 1241 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,200 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for thank you for sharing this, this, 1242 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,960 Speaker 2: this story, This is incredibly interesting. 1243 01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, I appreciate it. Man, thanks for doing a shout. 1244 01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:49,200 Speaker 8: It's really cool. 1245 01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 2: Oh of course you would you say your name was 1246 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 2: again John John John? 1247 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, Ji Jim John. 1248 01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,560 Speaker 2: Well, dude, thank you, thank you again for and man, 1249 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 2: I appreciate you being you know, sharing what you shared 1250 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:03,960 Speaker 2: with us. 1251 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, man, my pleasure, enjoy it. 1252 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 2: Thank you, man. Have a good night. 1253 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,560 Speaker 10: All from Olivia. 1254 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 17: Olivia. 1255 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:28,640 Speaker 2: Hello, what's your confession? Olivia? 1256 01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 18: I don't like my roommate too much? 1257 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 2: Why don't you like your roommate? 1258 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 18: I think it's just that we're living in such a 1259 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,680 Speaker 18: small space and I'm not very social. It feels like, 1260 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,439 Speaker 18: you know, I'm forced to have social interactions constantly when 1261 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 18: like I would rather not. 1262 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,760 Speaker 2: Is it that you don't like your roommate, or you 1263 01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 2: just don't like to socialize. 1264 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:04,439 Speaker 18: Maybe I just don't like to socialize, but maybe part 1265 01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,040 Speaker 18: of it is because she does like to socialize, So 1266 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 18: that makes me not like her as much. 1267 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,800 Speaker 2: Does she like? Do you think she gets upset with 1268 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 2: you for not wanting to talk to her? 1269 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:27,720 Speaker 18: I don't know. I'm not you see, I'm not good 1270 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 18: at I'm not good at reading peaceful. 1271 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:38,439 Speaker 2: You know, how did you two meet? 1272 01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 18: We were paired as roommates as I'm in college, and 1273 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,280 Speaker 18: we were paired as freshmen. We just like stuck together, 1274 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 18: so you know, it was etfort. It was like she's 1275 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 18: I mean, she is sort of one of my only friends, 1276 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 18: but at college. But it just gets tiring, you know, 1277 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 18: living with someone for so long, things little things start 1278 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 18: to build up. 1279 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 2: You know, Oh, tell me about these little things. 1280 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 18: This is gonna sound sort of petty or maybe self centered. 1281 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:21,480 Speaker 18: But I started feeling like she's like copying me, Like 1282 01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,160 Speaker 18: she used to only listen to one kind of music, 1283 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:28,480 Speaker 18: and then she started following on me on Spotify, and 1284 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:33,840 Speaker 18: now all she listens to is like my music. Is 1285 01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:38,200 Speaker 18: that petty? 1286 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,560 Speaker 2: Is it petty of her to only listen to her music? 1287 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:42,880 Speaker 17: Or is. 1288 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 18: Of me to care. 1289 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:49,480 Speaker 2: Why do you care? 1290 01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,160 Speaker 18: Maybe it's a bit of a maybe it's a bit 1291 01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:02,040 Speaker 18: of a you know, hipster superiority kind of thing that 1292 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 18: I need to work myself, work on myself to deal with. 1293 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,520 Speaker 18: But I do, I feel like I have all these 1294 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,480 Speaker 18: like eclectic music, and she used to listen to like 1295 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,920 Speaker 18: classic rock basically exclusively. 1296 01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, do do you? 1297 01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:23,280 Speaker 17: Well? 1298 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm curious why, you know, even if even if the idea, 1299 01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 2: even if the truth is that she did get it 1300 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 2: from you, have you considered you know, viewing it, you know, 1301 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,160 Speaker 2: sort of more flattery, right. 1302 01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 18: Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have, I have. It's just, 1303 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 18: you know, I think it's just one of those things 1304 01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:50,559 Speaker 18: where when you live with someone, and especially now because 1305 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 18: we don't like, we don't go anywhere ever, and I just, 1306 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,799 Speaker 18: you know, I hear in the shower and she's listening 1307 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 18: to like the same three songs over and over. And 1308 01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 18: there's songs that I know that I like that I 1309 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 18: kind of don't like anymore because she listens to them 1310 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:06,439 Speaker 18: so much. 1311 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:12,600 Speaker 2: Why why does her listening to them? Is it is 1312 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 2: do you not like them? Because she started listening to them? 1313 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 18: No, I mean, it's just from hearing them so much. 1314 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,440 Speaker 18: I guess. 1315 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 2: I've never really understood why like people's people view an 1316 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 2: art thing differently because of the other people that like 1317 01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 2: that thing. 1318 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:57,839 Speaker 18: Yeah, I see what you mean. Yeah, I guess I mean. 1319 01:09:59,800 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 6: It. 1320 01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 18: I mean, but hearing the same thing over and over, 1321 01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,840 Speaker 18: you know that's gonna bother anyone. I think, like I'll 1322 01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:12,320 Speaker 18: ruin songs for myself from listening to them too many times. 1323 01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:32,000 Speaker 2: What is your behavior like to your roommate? Do you 1324 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:37,800 Speaker 2: ignore her I'd christ to talk to you. 1325 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:42,840 Speaker 18: No, I don't ignore her. I'll say something, but I'll 1326 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 18: try to say it in a way that indicates I 1327 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 18: don't really want to talk right now, and right now 1328 01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:52,519 Speaker 18: is most of the time like but that, I mean, 1329 01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 18: that's kind of how I am with a lot of 1330 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,559 Speaker 18: people actually, like, oh, what are you working on? And 1331 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 18: I'll just like say what it is and then you 1332 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 18: know nothing else. 1333 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 2: Do you have a lot of friends or do you 1334 01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:13,240 Speaker 2: have at least a small group of friends. 1335 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:14,120 Speaker 16: Yeah. 1336 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,680 Speaker 18: Most of them are from high school though, so I 1337 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:22,320 Speaker 18: don't see them very much anymore. But at college, I've 1338 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,720 Speaker 18: only made like two or three real friends. 1339 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 6: Two or three is. 1340 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,840 Speaker 3: Pretty good, I think, So. 1341 01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, I've never thought friendships should be measured 1342 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:44,800 Speaker 2: in uh quantity anyway, joined the rest of your college. 1343 01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:49,599 Speaker 18: Experience, well, it's been kind of ruined. I'm about to graduate, 1344 01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,519 Speaker 18: so like a big chunk of my time's been trashed. 1345 01:11:53,600 --> 01:12:01,200 Speaker 2: Basically, what's next for you? Olivia? 1346 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:05,680 Speaker 18: Who knows? My parents I think want me to go 1347 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:08,600 Speaker 18: to some kind of grad school, but too late to 1348 01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 18: apply to that for next year, so I'll have to 1349 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,720 Speaker 18: at least take one gap year, which I'm looking forward to. 1350 01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,240 Speaker 2: What are you going to do during the gap year? 1351 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:23,160 Speaker 18: I don't know, apply to some kind of internship or something. 1352 01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:26,920 Speaker 18: I would like to travel somewhere. 1353 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 8: I don't know. 1354 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,240 Speaker 18: I'm just sick of school, honestly, I just feel like 1355 01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 18: I need a break from it. 1356 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,880 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, school sucks. I'm very grateful that I never 1357 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 2: have to go to school ever again. 1358 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1359 01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,080 Speaker 18: I mean I've always been good at it. I just 1360 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 18: I'm just so worn out from it. 1361 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:50,880 Speaker 17: Well, I love it. 1362 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 2: I wish you the best of luck and whatever endeavor 1363 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 2: you decide to pursue next. 1364 01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 18: Thank you so much, Get go. I love you, of course. 1365 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Olivia. I talk to you soon. Thank 1366 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:02,959 Speaker 2: you for sharing. 1367 01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,080 Speaker 10: All From Megan. 1368 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 9: Megan gag hi hi. 1369 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:25,559 Speaker 20: So I had to look up statue of limitations before 1370 01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 20: I talked, before I told you about my confession. 1371 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,559 Speaker 2: What are the statue of limitations? 1372 01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,840 Speaker 20: Well, statue limitations is how long I have before I 1373 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 20: could get in trouble for something, or before I can 1374 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,360 Speaker 20: no longer get in trouble for something. 1375 01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:45,280 Speaker 2: How long has it been? 1376 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:47,680 Speaker 20: It's been twenty years. 1377 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 2: What's been twenty years. 1378 01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:56,439 Speaker 20: Since I had committed identity fraud? 1379 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:00,800 Speaker 2: Why did you can identity fraud? 1380 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,800 Speaker 20: Well, it wasn't like I made this big plan to 1381 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,640 Speaker 20: do it. I had some friends that did something stupid 1382 01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,960 Speaker 20: and they stole like some chick's wallet when they were 1383 01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,760 Speaker 20: helping her change her tire, and she was like, I'll 1384 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 20: dry kits the whole long story. Nonetheless, we went to 1385 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:23,960 Speaker 20: the mall the next day and spent somebody's money and 1386 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,000 Speaker 20: I still felt guilty for it because it wasn't really 1387 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 20: obviously mine. Excuse me, and all we got was like 1388 01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,160 Speaker 20: stupid shit, Like went to the gap? 1389 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:35,840 Speaker 2: What did you get at the gap? 1390 01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:42,000 Speaker 20: I got a really cute, like white sun dress. It's 1391 01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:43,840 Speaker 20: weird that I can still remember that, probably because they 1392 01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:45,000 Speaker 20: still feel guilty. 1393 01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,320 Speaker 2: What's the most expensive thing you bought with this woman's 1394 01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:50,080 Speaker 2: credit card was a. 1395 01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,479 Speaker 20: Pair of Doc Martin boots that were like one hundred 1396 01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 20: and twenty bucks. 1397 01:15:00,439 --> 01:15:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened with all the rest of the stuff? 1398 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:03,439 Speaker 2: Did you ever give it back? 1399 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:04,800 Speaker 5: Well? 1400 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:06,640 Speaker 20: No, I don't even know who the person was. It 1401 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,400 Speaker 20: wasn't even in the town I lived in. My friend 1402 01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 20: and I had like gone over and visited some dudes, 1403 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 20: and then they did that, and then we went to 1404 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,840 Speaker 20: a mall on their way back to transporting us home, 1405 01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,720 Speaker 20: and so like I just had those boots for a 1406 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:25,639 Speaker 20: while and that dressed for a while and felt guilty, 1407 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,160 Speaker 20: and like the other people bought other stuff too, but 1408 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:30,720 Speaker 20: it was all just frivil of shit that you buy 1409 01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:35,479 Speaker 20: when you're eighteen, stupid shit. 1410 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:43,680 Speaker 2: What was the sort of spectrum of feeling bad about it? 1411 01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 2: I assumed that in a group of friends spending another 1412 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:54,759 Speaker 2: person's credit card, there's probably one friend who like feels 1413 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 2: extremely guilty about it, yeah, and another friend who is 1414 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,599 Speaker 2: so excited that they get to spend someone else's money, 1415 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,679 Speaker 2: and yeah, you know, sort of a spectra of people 1416 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,599 Speaker 2: in between. Is that accurate at all? 1417 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,720 Speaker 20: I would say probably. I think I was probably the 1418 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 20: one that was more worried about like spending this for 1419 01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,679 Speaker 20: you know, freaking out about, oh my gosh, what if 1420 01:16:17,479 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 20: you know, like kind of secretly hoping that this woman 1421 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 20: had already canceled them. They said she was shit, how 1422 01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:26,439 Speaker 20: drunk when they ended up taking her wallet. That's a 1423 01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:30,680 Speaker 20: other stupid story, but like I really felt bad about it, 1424 01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:32,800 Speaker 20: and so to think about it, I think it probably 1425 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,960 Speaker 20: spent like three hundred bucks. And the dudes we were with, 1426 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 20: they were the ones that were like super excited about, 1427 01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 20: you know, and it was back when they still had 1428 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:40,880 Speaker 20: sam Goodies and shit. 1429 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:42,520 Speaker 6: So they're buying like CDs. 1430 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,040 Speaker 2: What did the guys. What was the most expensive things 1431 01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:45,679 Speaker 2: the guys bought? 1432 01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:49,639 Speaker 20: Oh god, I can't even remember, like electronic shit, I'm 1433 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,040 Speaker 20: sure because we all just kind of split up with 1434 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:54,640 Speaker 20: our cards. 1435 01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 2: So how did this end? That you ever get the 1436 01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:58,880 Speaker 2: cards back? 1437 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:04,120 Speaker 20: No, we actually like broke them into pieces, like little 1438 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:05,960 Speaker 20: tiny pieces and then threw them out the window down 1439 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:06,439 Speaker 20: the freeway. 1440 01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:08,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1441 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,760 Speaker 20: Yeah, it was twenty years ago. I still felt really bad. 1442 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,559 Speaker 2: Which freeway. Maybe someone will come along and blow them 1443 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:17,280 Speaker 2: back together. 1444 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:20,439 Speaker 20: Because the statue of delimitations is up. 1445 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, she's probably canceled them by now. 1446 01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 6: I'm gonna hope. 1447 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:29,719 Speaker 20: I mean, like they found this woman in a ditch, 1448 01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:34,360 Speaker 20: like drunk as a skunk. Yeah, Like the dudes we 1449 01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,679 Speaker 20: were with, they were out cruising around. 1450 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:38,000 Speaker 22: I don't know. 1451 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:39,280 Speaker 20: I think they were probably like going to the gas 1452 01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:39,960 Speaker 20: station and get us. 1453 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 6: We're finding someone to buy his beer. 1454 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 20: We were all eighteen, and they rolled up on this 1455 01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:46,600 Speaker 20: chick kind in the ditch because of weather, and so 1456 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,080 Speaker 20: they got out to help her, and she was just like, 1457 01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:51,639 Speaker 20: I mean, she was trying to hand them like money 1458 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,559 Speaker 20: and stuff, and she's like, oh, I'm so sorry. Thanks 1459 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,120 Speaker 20: you're not telling you know, like doing the thanks for 1460 01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,600 Speaker 20: not telling me what, Thanks for hoping me get my 1461 01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,519 Speaker 20: car out so she could drive home. And then I 1462 01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,519 Speaker 20: don't know what why they felt the need to just 1463 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,240 Speaker 20: take her wallet or wallet or whatever it was, you know, 1464 01:18:07,320 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 20: like what in that moment, she was trying to be nice, 1465 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 20: she was thankful with they. You know, I don't know, 1466 01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:15,639 Speaker 20: I'm not a psychologists. I can't decide why they did that. 1467 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,840 Speaker 2: But wow, so they just kind of stole this drunk 1468 01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:23,280 Speaker 2: woman's yeah, wallets and then let's drive home. 1469 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:30,280 Speaker 20: Yeah right, Wow, maybe that's the real issue. 1470 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,720 Speaker 2: Do you feel as though you've done enough in the 1471 01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:36,360 Speaker 2: past twenty years to repent for your involvement in this. 1472 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 20: Yes, I actually do, but it's weird to still feel guilty. 1473 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:46,840 Speaker 20: I like work in social services, you know, I do 1474 01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,760 Speaker 20: all those kind of things, advocate, you know. I won't 1475 01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:53,519 Speaker 20: go into that and get political. But I feel like 1476 01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,000 Speaker 20: I've given back a lot in the work. 1477 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 6: That I do, so. 1478 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 20: But I still really guilty. 1479 01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:01,800 Speaker 6: It's kind of weird. 1480 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,800 Speaker 20: Like I saw my husband, I was, I wonder if. 1481 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:05,519 Speaker 23: I should confess to that. 1482 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:06,720 Speaker 6: I appreciate that. 1483 01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:06,960 Speaker 9: Thanks. 1484 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:07,280 Speaker 7: Gay. 1485 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,679 Speaker 20: Really enjoyed your stream last night for Valentine's Day. Thanks 1486 01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:11,920 Speaker 20: for sharing that with us. 1487 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,680 Speaker 2: Of course, Megan, thank you so much for going in 1488 01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:15,200 Speaker 2: to confess. 1489 01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:21,520 Speaker 20: Thank you. You have a good night, you too. 1490 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,600 Speaker 4: All from Phil, Phil. 1491 01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:29,959 Speaker 6: All from. 1492 01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:32,960 Speaker 4: Behind? 1493 01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 8: Oh wow, I got through it. Did you. 1494 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:42,040 Speaker 6: Have your neck goloring? 1495 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,040 Speaker 2: It's going all right? I was your night going? 1496 01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 9: Phil? 1497 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:56,040 Speaker 6: Okay, I'm eating dinner. 1498 01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:02,320 Speaker 2: What's for dinner? Phil? 1499 01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:05,040 Speaker 9: Oh? 1500 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:07,600 Speaker 6: Enchilada, rice empan. 1501 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,440 Speaker 2: Did you make it or did you buy it? 1502 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:14,559 Speaker 8: I bought it? 1503 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,280 Speaker 2: You bored you? Where'd you buy it from? 1504 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,240 Speaker 6: I'm Mexican restaurant down the street. 1505 01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,000 Speaker 2: That's pretty good man. For a second, I thought you 1506 01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,480 Speaker 2: were like the kind of dude that like makes enchiladas 1507 01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 2: for himself and I was about to be really impressed. 1508 01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 8: Oh no, I don't know how to go. 1509 01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:34,200 Speaker 2: I don't know how to cook either. It's hard. It's 1510 01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:35,000 Speaker 2: too hard. 1511 01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:38,240 Speaker 6: It's too hard, too much, it chires too much energy. 1512 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:40,960 Speaker 2: Do you have a lot of energy? 1513 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:55,679 Speaker 6: It depends on the dad right now, Yeah, I guess. 1514 01:20:55,479 --> 01:21:00,320 Speaker 16: So, h. 1515 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:04,599 Speaker 10: M hmm. 1516 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:09,400 Speaker 2: What's your confession? 1517 01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:16,240 Speaker 6: So I was thinking about it while I was following you, 1518 01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:21,559 Speaker 6: and I used to be a bully in middle school. 1519 01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 17: Actually used to be a bully. 1520 01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:40,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think about it sometimes. Or did you just random? 1521 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,360 Speaker 6: I was part of a group of friends that I'm 1522 01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,960 Speaker 6: going to behave the best and they would occasionally make 1523 01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:51,880 Speaker 6: fun of someone in our own group of friends. Now 1524 01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,640 Speaker 6: that I set that out loud, actually they were not 1525 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,080 Speaker 6: friends because they were kind of passboards. 1526 01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:00,320 Speaker 10: M m m hm hm. 1527 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:03,200 Speaker 2: At the end of this, so you're going to reveal 1528 01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:04,839 Speaker 2: that you were the one that got bullied. 1529 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:10,639 Speaker 6: No, I actually bullied someone with the other people. 1530 01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:22,360 Speaker 2: What were your transgressions? Shout guys, sorry, what were your transgressions? 1531 01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,120 Speaker 2: Well not what were your transgressions? 1532 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:31,400 Speaker 6: What's transgression? 1533 01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,400 Speaker 2: What were your transgressions? 1534 01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:36,040 Speaker 9: Oh? 1535 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:36,799 Speaker 5: Sorry. 1536 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:43,400 Speaker 6: They would just make fun of people, and in order 1537 01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:49,599 Speaker 6: to shuit in, I would as well. 1538 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,040 Speaker 2: Tell me about this guy that you made fun of. 1539 01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 7: Uh So. 1540 01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,840 Speaker 6: I don't want to say his name. Let's call him 1541 01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:01,479 Speaker 6: John Doe. 1542 01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,040 Speaker 2: He said, what is called what? John Delle? 1543 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1544 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,800 Speaker 2: You say John Doe? 1545 01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:10,240 Speaker 26: Yeah? 1546 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 6: I don't want to say his name. 1547 01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:16,040 Speaker 17: Oh okay. 1548 01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:19,640 Speaker 6: But one thing that always stands out to me is 1549 01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 6: that one time he shaved his head and came back 1550 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:28,320 Speaker 6: to school and we were sitting at lunch table and 1551 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:34,000 Speaker 6: we all started making fun of him, say he had cancers. 1552 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,880 Speaker 6: I was pretty fucked up to say, but again, just 1553 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:39,680 Speaker 6: trying to fit in, I went along with it. 1554 01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 2: When's the last time you saw John? 1555 01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:53,680 Speaker 10: Oh? 1556 01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:55,360 Speaker 6: Twenty ten? 1557 01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:57,880 Speaker 2: Twenty ten? 1558 01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:04,599 Speaker 6: Because I was tenth grade and I moved away. 1559 01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:06,720 Speaker 2: Do you know where John is now? Do you know 1560 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:07,240 Speaker 2: what he's doing? 1561 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:13,000 Speaker 6: I randomly look him up on Facebook and Instagram. He 1562 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:14,920 Speaker 6: doesn't post much, but who's under? 1563 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:18,000 Speaker 2: How's he doing? From what you can tell? 1564 01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 6: From what I can tell, he's doing all right. It's 1565 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,080 Speaker 6: hard to tell them because I'm not his bridal Facebook 1566 01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 6: or Instagram. I just view whatever is public. 1567 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,240 Speaker 2: What about the other people, These these people that you 1568 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,439 Speaker 2: were friends with that you were that you were making 1569 01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,479 Speaker 2: fun of this kid with. And how many other guys 1570 01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:43,280 Speaker 2: were there in this group? 1571 01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:53,280 Speaker 6: Mm? Two in total, including me and John Doe the 1572 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:54,960 Speaker 6: sixth six? 1573 01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,000 Speaker 2: Uh. Do you keep me contact with any of these guys? 1574 01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:08,439 Speaker 6: I don't because my parents knew how how mischievous. I 1575 01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:12,160 Speaker 6: can't say how bad did he and they actually didn't 1576 01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,040 Speaker 6: like me hanging out with them, so as soon as 1577 01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,320 Speaker 6: we moved away, it was hard to go back to 1578 01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:20,320 Speaker 6: that town to visit and hang out with them and 1579 01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:20,800 Speaker 6: went on. 1580 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,960 Speaker 2: Have you coped in contact with any of them online? 1581 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:35,320 Speaker 6: No? Sometimes I feel them, like like my Instagram stories 1582 01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:40,719 Speaker 6: or Instagram posts, But other than that, I don't really 1583 01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:45,200 Speaker 6: talk to them. 1584 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,840 Speaker 2: I'll ask you what I asked. I forget her name. 1585 01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:56,680 Speaker 2: But do you feel like you've personally done enough? You know, 1586 01:25:56,720 --> 01:25:57,839 Speaker 2: by your own definition? 1587 01:25:58,800 --> 01:25:58,960 Speaker 4: Two? 1588 01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:04,160 Speaker 2: Repent for this in the time. 1589 01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:09,720 Speaker 6: Since it happened, No, I don't think so. I never 1590 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:14,479 Speaker 6: talked to them ever again. And it's really weird. It's 1591 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:20,519 Speaker 6: just I randomly start thinking about him, and I feel 1592 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,240 Speaker 6: like shit when I do, because I knew it was 1593 01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:28,360 Speaker 6: wrong to do, but I still did it. 1594 01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:33,280 Speaker 2: Is repenting for this appealing or interesting or a goal 1595 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:36,519 Speaker 2: of yours in any way, shape or form. 1596 01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,880 Speaker 6: I would love to, but I've never had the nerve 1597 01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:39,360 Speaker 6: to do. 1598 01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:45,960 Speaker 2: So what about in ways that don't involve direct contact 1599 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:46,559 Speaker 2: with the person? 1600 01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,719 Speaker 6: I wouldn't even know what. I wouldn't fell like asking 1601 01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,880 Speaker 6: someone else to say that I'm sorry. 1602 01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:03,120 Speaker 2: No, just like h I don't know giving someone else 1603 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:03,599 Speaker 2: at the dollar. 1604 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:12,760 Speaker 6: You know what's funny, I'm actually actually working in the 1605 01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:18,040 Speaker 6: medical field and I work with cancer vision now, and 1606 01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,720 Speaker 6: I don't know if, like sub consciously I made that 1607 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:22,559 Speaker 6: decision or or what. 1608 01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:31,400 Speaker 2: There it is. You think that that could be a 1609 01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:32,240 Speaker 2: form of repentance. 1610 01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:41,760 Speaker 6: Mm hmm, No, goodness, I'm pretty sure we I where 1611 01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:48,920 Speaker 6: we sucked up that this middle school, and usually middle 1612 01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:53,519 Speaker 6: school is when you're growing, developing to what you will 1613 01:27:53,560 --> 01:28:00,519 Speaker 6: be as an adults, and knowing that we made this 1614 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:05,080 Speaker 6: kid's life really difficult. Uh, Billy bothered. 1615 01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:18,120 Speaker 2: What your name was? 1616 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:19,840 Speaker 9: Phil? 1617 01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:24,719 Speaker 2: Thank you for sharing, Phil. 1618 01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 6: Thank you. 1619 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:31,439 Speaker 14: Have a good night. 1620 01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,559 Speaker 6: Do you too have a good night? Love you. 1621 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:36,519 Speaker 2: Appreciate you. 1622 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,360 Speaker 6: I appreciate you too. Take care. 1623 01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:48,679 Speaker 4: H All from Camden, Camden. 1624 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:52,840 Speaker 9: Hi, how are you doing, mister Dicco. 1625 01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:56,240 Speaker 2: I'm all right, Camden. 1626 01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:00,559 Speaker 9: Just came across your show here on the red lines, 1627 01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,160 Speaker 9: are are paying the see what it's sold out? 1628 01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure that out myself. Cam, What were 1629 01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:09,120 Speaker 2: you doing before you called in? 1630 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,760 Speaker 9: I just cut off of work, you know, kissing asks 1631 01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,160 Speaker 9: for money? Just call customer service? Okay? 1632 01:29:18,080 --> 01:29:21,040 Speaker 2: Do you welcome? Where do you work customer service at? 1633 01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:24,600 Speaker 9: I work for a company called Publics? 1634 01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:26,800 Speaker 8: And what when? 1635 01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 9: Just in case anyone from management is watching, I love 1636 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:33,679 Speaker 9: the company and I have no complaint whatsoever. 1637 01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,599 Speaker 2: No, no, look, Cam's not even your real name. I'm 1638 01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,400 Speaker 2: not even really you're having it. You're in a dream 1639 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,320 Speaker 2: right now. Man, you can say whatever you want. I 1640 01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:45,639 Speaker 2: want to know the truth about Publics. Tell me, please, Well, our. 1641 01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:47,160 Speaker 9: Companies actually some hot water right now. 1642 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:47,559 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1643 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,320 Speaker 9: I don't know if the controversy something you want me 1644 01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:51,800 Speaker 9: talking about on your show right now? 1645 01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:55,680 Speaker 2: But oh you know, please, well what's what's the controversy? 1646 01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:57,639 Speaker 2: Is it political? Is it social? 1647 01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:58,280 Speaker 3: Is it. 1648 01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:00,479 Speaker 4: Me hit men? 1649 01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:08,720 Speaker 9: Uh? Well, He'll be honest with you. We are the 1650 01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,639 Speaker 9: person who funds our or how does our cherry organization? 1651 01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:14,960 Speaker 9: Or did I think she's just had done if this happened, 1652 01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,479 Speaker 9: but she donated three hundred thousand dollars to rally at 1653 01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:24,320 Speaker 9: Capitol Hill and in uh, we're in pretty hot water 1654 01:30:24,360 --> 01:30:27,920 Speaker 9: about it because then publics went on Twitter and said like, oh, 1655 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:30,960 Speaker 9: she doesn't represent you know what we think. But you know, 1656 01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,519 Speaker 9: one of our biggest things is giving back to the community. 1657 01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:37,519 Speaker 9: And so now that where I'm at is like, how 1658 01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,559 Speaker 9: does that not represent us? If that's our whole thing 1659 01:30:39,640 --> 01:30:41,960 Speaker 9: is giving back and helping other people, Like, how does 1660 01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:43,080 Speaker 9: that not represent us? 1661 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,439 Speaker 2: So are now you as an individual that works for 1662 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,479 Speaker 2: this company, you know, because it's one I feel like 1663 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,720 Speaker 2: this this is it's one thing. I mean, everyone's you know, 1664 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:53,840 Speaker 2: has the thing where like, Okay, I'm not going to 1665 01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:57,920 Speaker 2: support this company as a consumer anymore, you know, because 1666 01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:01,120 Speaker 2: I don't agree with, you know, any things that they've done. 1667 01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,519 Speaker 2: But for you, when it's your livelihood, you know, does 1668 01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,519 Speaker 2: that add an extra layer of conflict when you're trying to, 1669 01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,400 Speaker 2: you know, stand up for what you believe the fact 1670 01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:11,960 Speaker 2: that it's it's your livelihood. 1671 01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,719 Speaker 9: At this point, I don't care if I get fired 1672 01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:16,960 Speaker 9: because I know a lot of different business owners on 1673 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:18,760 Speaker 9: the area where to the point where I'm just like, 1674 01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,559 Speaker 9: if I get fired, I have other people lying like 1675 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,920 Speaker 9: that would that that are ready to hire me and 1676 01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:26,720 Speaker 9: get me into their businesses. I'm not too scared of it, 1677 01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 9: you know, you know, not to mention that they also 1678 01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:32,960 Speaker 9: try to use them all my coworkers as like a 1679 01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,519 Speaker 9: poster child. He's a grown man with caine, he has 1680 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,439 Speaker 9: circle quality, and they tried to use some as like 1681 01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:40,280 Speaker 9: a like a example of how good they are to 1682 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,800 Speaker 9: people with special needs, when he is even really like 1683 01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:44,880 Speaker 9: disabled or anything like that. I mean, he can make 1684 01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,679 Speaker 9: his own decisions and like he'd had to advocate for 1685 01:31:47,800 --> 01:31:53,080 Speaker 9: his own needs too, And so it's just it's it's 1686 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:54,120 Speaker 9: kind of it's it's sick. 1687 01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:57,080 Speaker 2: It is are you are you considering quitting? 1688 01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:04,120 Speaker 9: Honestly? If I if I get a jellaware notes for 1689 01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:05,479 Speaker 9: me before I get fired? 1690 01:32:05,880 --> 01:32:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're you're you're talking you you think you're 1691 01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:12,519 Speaker 2: gonna get fired? 1692 01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:12,960 Speaker 17: Don't you. 1693 01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:14,679 Speaker 5: Rely? 1694 01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:16,400 Speaker 9: This ready thing? When from amazingcyes this. 1695 01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:20,680 Speaker 2: Do I mean before okay before but no, no, before this, 1696 01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,280 Speaker 2: did you think were you on track to get fired 1697 01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:25,640 Speaker 2: for some reason? Before you called in? Before this? I 1698 01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:27,400 Speaker 2: mean this is not No one cares about this. 1699 01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:30,280 Speaker 9: I don't kiss. I don't kiss the management as so 1700 01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:33,040 Speaker 9: probably they don't really like it. When you're not like 1701 01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:39,320 Speaker 9: the perfect like individual, just the you know, fake happiness 1702 01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,720 Speaker 9: and all that, it's just fucking it's it's you know 1703 01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:46,080 Speaker 9: what I mean. It's uh yeah, when you're not like 1704 01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:48,200 Speaker 9: fake happy and everything like that, they don't like it 1705 01:32:48,280 --> 01:32:49,720 Speaker 9: and they don't like you don't get moved up. 1706 01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:55,479 Speaker 2: What's your like ultimate you could go anywhere place to 1707 01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,200 Speaker 2: go after publics to work. 1708 01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:03,360 Speaker 9: I well, I'm in college right now for geology and 1709 01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,120 Speaker 9: I'm hoping to get a really good career in that 1710 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:08,720 Speaker 9: in the future, okay for my gelgy pressure as it is, 1711 01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,160 Speaker 9: and you know, it's it's a fantastic opportunity, you know, 1712 01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:14,160 Speaker 9: to you know, get experienced from him then just kind 1713 01:33:14,160 --> 01:33:16,920 Speaker 9: of learn things. And I'm taking as they go. I 1714 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,120 Speaker 9: want taking slow with college because I don't want to. 1715 01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,120 Speaker 9: I don't know, I don't want to suck it up. 1716 01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:29,080 Speaker 9: It's yeah, I have I have a big opportunity right 1717 01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:31,640 Speaker 9: now with like the money that has been saved up, 1718 01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:35,160 Speaker 9: and so I don't want to waste that and like 1719 01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,320 Speaker 9: move terribly fast. 1720 01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:37,559 Speaker 22: You know. 1721 01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:39,280 Speaker 9: I don't know if I'm making sense at all, but 1722 01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:42,519 Speaker 9: mm hmm, yeah, that's kind of where I'm at with that. 1723 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,519 Speaker 2: I love it. Man, would you say your fake name was? 1724 01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:51,720 Speaker 9: Uh, fake name Schmitty. We'll go to Schmitty. How about that? 1725 01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:55,400 Speaker 2: Schmitt? I love yeah, well schmitty man. Look, thank you 1726 01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,000 Speaker 2: for calling, and man, you have a good rest of 1727 01:33:57,040 --> 01:34:00,240 Speaker 2: the night. And power to you. You know, do what 1728 01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:03,680 Speaker 2: you gotta do for public's go move on, go go 1729 01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:06,160 Speaker 2: get into rocks. I love it, dude. 1730 01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, And as a slave moderator whoever just said that, 1731 01:34:10,040 --> 01:34:15,519 Speaker 9: I love you too, Thank you. I love you as well. Hey, 1732 01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:16,280 Speaker 9: you all have a good one. 1733 01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:21,760 Speaker 2: That guy was nice. He was a nice guy. 1734 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:23,360 Speaker 10: All from. 1735 01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:32,200 Speaker 2: Bronx Bronson Bronson? There? 1736 01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:32,840 Speaker 22: How are you? 1737 01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:33,280 Speaker 2: Bronson? 1738 01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:34,760 Speaker 5: Dode? 1739 01:34:34,760 --> 01:34:35,360 Speaker 8: All right? How are you? 1740 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:40,800 Speaker 2: Bronson? What do you think of the kindness economy? I? 1741 01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:47,400 Speaker 23: Uh, I'm kind of on your side, because it seems 1742 01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,760 Speaker 23: like after a time, it does just turn back into a. 1743 01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:55,160 Speaker 2: Regular economy, right, turns back into regular economy immediately. 1744 01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:58,280 Speaker 17: Sorry what I said? 1745 01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:02,280 Speaker 2: It turns back into a regular economy immediate, Yeah, yeah, exactly. 1746 01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:10,040 Speaker 2: And also I believe Look, do I think it's good 1747 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,880 Speaker 2: to be an asshole? I don't know, but I believe 1748 01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,720 Speaker 2: in the freedom to be one. What if I want 1749 01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:17,439 Speaker 2: to just go around being a jerk to everyone? 1750 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:25,200 Speaker 23: I mean, you're prerogative, but like I think I think 1751 01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:29,880 Speaker 23: there's a balance, you know, Like I wouldn't want to 1752 01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:36,320 Speaker 23: be a jerk to everybody, but I think it's inevitable 1753 01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,120 Speaker 23: sometimes to be a jerk. 1754 01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:38,719 Speaker 5: To some people. 1755 01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:41,759 Speaker 2: Do you believe that you're a good person? 1756 01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:45,880 Speaker 23: A big question, man. 1757 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:48,719 Speaker 5: I think. 1758 01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:56,519 Speaker 23: Generally speaking, I'm a pretty decent guy. I wouldn't say 1759 01:35:56,520 --> 01:36:02,920 Speaker 23: I'm perfect, but I'm all right guy. 1760 01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:08,280 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. What do you think money is. 1761 01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:19,040 Speaker 23: The kind of like a philosopher's stone in a way 1762 01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:24,080 Speaker 23: from where like, yeah, well I'm not sure what the 1763 01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:27,479 Speaker 23: Harry Potter one did, but like the thing that turns 1764 01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:32,200 Speaker 23: lead into gold, like it turns one thing into another thing, 1765 01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:38,160 Speaker 23: you know what I mean. Like it's uh, I think, like, man, 1766 01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:40,679 Speaker 23: I used to say I love money, but I don't 1767 01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:44,040 Speaker 23: think that's true. I think I love what money can do, 1768 01:36:44,800 --> 01:36:48,559 Speaker 23: which is I think in a lot of ways, it 1769 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:56,120 Speaker 23: can give you freedom where you're not you know, grinding 1770 01:36:57,000 --> 01:37:01,400 Speaker 23: to pay rent or you know, buy buy food or whatever. 1771 01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:06,360 Speaker 23: But like it's a it's a bit of like a 1772 01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,800 Speaker 23: double edged sword. After a while, like I think it 1773 01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:14,240 Speaker 23: can get to the point where, like is the fanatical 1774 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:19,559 Speaker 23: pursuit of freedom that freeing. 1775 01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:25,559 Speaker 2: What what do you do for a living? 1776 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:29,400 Speaker 23: I I am in sales. 1777 01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,360 Speaker 2: M hmm, what do you see? 1778 01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,720 Speaker 23: I sell GPS for. 1779 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:40,960 Speaker 2: H you sell GPS? 1780 01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:44,719 Speaker 23: Yeah? I actually might be quitting soon. 1781 01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:46,760 Speaker 8: I'm so excited. 1782 01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:47,160 Speaker 17: Yeah. 1783 01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,240 Speaker 2: Did you hate selling GPS? I? 1784 01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:54,439 Speaker 23: No, it's I it was. The job itself was pretty fine. 1785 01:37:55,439 --> 01:38:01,240 Speaker 23: I was pretty good at it. But uh, I worked 1786 01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:04,479 Speaker 23: for some people I'm not super fond of. I thought 1787 01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:10,679 Speaker 23: they did unethical things in the name of money. 1788 01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:13,280 Speaker 2: What did they do? 1789 01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:16,280 Speaker 12: Well? 1790 01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:20,479 Speaker 23: Not to get too much into the weeds here, but 1791 01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:32,799 Speaker 23: basically my entire department except for me, was given a 1792 01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:36,479 Speaker 23: impossible quota to hit and told if they didn't hit 1793 01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:40,559 Speaker 23: that quota they would be fired. And then a week 1794 01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:44,800 Speaker 23: before the dude ate, they just fired them anyway, which 1795 01:38:44,840 --> 01:38:48,040 Speaker 23: is like, you know, you gotta do what you gotta 1796 01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:53,559 Speaker 23: do dollars and cents, but con to like not even 1797 01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:57,880 Speaker 23: give someone the chance to hit the mark I thought 1798 01:38:58,040 --> 01:39:01,200 Speaker 23: was not ethical. 1799 01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,040 Speaker 2: So they in advance. They knew in advance that they 1800 01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,000 Speaker 2: were going to have to fire these people anyway, so 1801 01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:09,479 Speaker 2: their plan was always to fire them a week before 1802 01:39:09,520 --> 01:39:11,320 Speaker 2: the quota deadline. 1803 01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,760 Speaker 23: I think so, Yeah, I definitely think that was the case. 1804 01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:20,720 Speaker 23: And I don't know if you're a Christmas character, but 1805 01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:25,280 Speaker 23: I thought there was this whole quota came out like 1806 01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,559 Speaker 23: a week before Christmas, which I think is a rough 1807 01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:31,120 Speaker 23: time to tell someone that your job is on the 1808 01:39:31,160 --> 01:39:37,120 Speaker 23: line for sure. So yeah, I don't know, man. They 1809 01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,800 Speaker 23: Actually I was calling you a Monday, trying to get 1810 01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,000 Speaker 23: in to talk about this because I'm very conflicted about 1811 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:44,759 Speaker 23: this whole situation. 1812 01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:49,400 Speaker 2: Oh please, Yes, what's the source of Well, I guess, 1813 01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,280 Speaker 2: I mean was the what's the conflict about whether or 1814 01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:53,040 Speaker 2: not to stay there? 1815 01:39:55,360 --> 01:40:02,719 Speaker 23: Yeah, because I was They've offered me a promotion, and yeah, 1816 01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,719 Speaker 23: and I think I stand to make a good amount 1817 01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:12,360 Speaker 23: of money and like, I've never made good money in 1818 01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:17,120 Speaker 23: my life and now I'm being offered like more money 1819 01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:21,479 Speaker 23: than I thought a person with my skill set could make. 1820 01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,639 Speaker 23: But also at the same time, I've come to realize 1821 01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:31,479 Speaker 23: this is like a morally ambiguous place to be. And 1822 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,800 Speaker 23: as a person who's always said he's not motivated by 1823 01:40:34,880 --> 01:40:37,240 Speaker 23: money very much, it feels in a way like the 1824 01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:39,800 Speaker 23: universe saying are you sure about that? 1825 01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:41,080 Speaker 8: Right? 1826 01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:47,719 Speaker 2: Like, so, I mean we sort of started this story 1827 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,839 Speaker 2: with the end of it you ended up quitting, right. 1828 01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:52,160 Speaker 23: I haven't quit yet. 1829 01:40:52,400 --> 01:40:55,240 Speaker 2: I okay, So is it still in the air or 1830 01:40:55,439 --> 01:40:56,120 Speaker 2: you've decided. 1831 01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:01,800 Speaker 23: I'm waiting to hear back about another job, and if 1832 01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:04,240 Speaker 23: I get that, probate quitting. 1833 01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:07,320 Speaker 2: But is the other job for significantly less money? 1834 01:41:08,200 --> 01:41:09,840 Speaker 8: Oh you better believe it, buddy. 1835 01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:14,439 Speaker 2: Now is making good You said that you've never been 1836 01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:16,800 Speaker 2: driven by money, so making good money has never been 1837 01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:19,240 Speaker 2: a thing that's been that important to you anyway from 1838 01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:19,959 Speaker 2: what I understand. 1839 01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:25,160 Speaker 23: Yeah, like making I'd like to make decent money, but 1840 01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:27,320 Speaker 23: I don't need to. I don't need a house with 1841 01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:29,040 Speaker 23: a wall. You know what I'm saying. 1842 01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:30,280 Speaker 2: The house with a wall. 1843 01:41:31,400 --> 01:41:34,280 Speaker 23: Yeah, like a big, big you know, l a house 1844 01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,320 Speaker 23: with a wall around it and the gate wall. 1845 01:41:36,360 --> 01:41:40,040 Speaker 2: Houses have walls. Oh you made a wall like out 1846 01:41:40,040 --> 01:41:40,639 Speaker 2: in front of the. 1847 01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:42,200 Speaker 8: House around the house? 1848 01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:42,439 Speaker 11: Yeah? 1849 01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I thought you were talking about walls 1850 01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:45,680 Speaker 2: in the house because you need that. 1851 01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:48,760 Speaker 8: No, yeah, it's prereconsent. 1852 01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:49,920 Speaker 23: I need like at least four of those. 1853 01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:53,720 Speaker 2: So you're not driven by money. So if you're not 1854 01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,240 Speaker 2: driven by money, what, let me ask you? What do 1855 01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:58,640 Speaker 2: what does drive you? What do you what do you 1856 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:01,400 Speaker 2: value in its place? 1857 01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:04,960 Speaker 23: It's a good question. 1858 01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:06,760 Speaker 3: I think. 1859 01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:15,840 Speaker 23: I think you know this, that kind of economy guy 1860 01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:19,000 Speaker 23: is gonna love this. I think I generally want to 1861 01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:24,760 Speaker 23: help people or do something that like I'll put it 1862 01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:27,559 Speaker 23: to you this way, when I when I make a 1863 01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,080 Speaker 23: sales call to someone, I call them and I say, hey, 1864 01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:33,639 Speaker 23: I'm a GPS man. Do you need GPS? And most 1865 01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:35,960 Speaker 23: of the time they're like, no, never call me again. 1866 01:42:36,360 --> 01:42:40,360 Speaker 23: But sometimes they say, man, I'm so glad you called, 1867 01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:43,559 Speaker 23: like I'm looking for this, and that that is worth 1868 01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:47,679 Speaker 23: more than anything like that call pays more than any 1869 01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:48,639 Speaker 23: other call I could make. 1870 01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:53,400 Speaker 2: For sure, for sure, that is a good feeling when 1871 01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,280 Speaker 2: when someone needs something and you're able to give it 1872 01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:58,679 Speaker 2: to them. 1873 01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:04,600 Speaker 23: Yeah, yeah, exactly, man. Like you know, if I have 1874 01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:10,640 Speaker 23: the bread that someone wants, I'm happy to. Like, I know, 1875 01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:14,040 Speaker 23: the guy who supplies the bread for me to distribute 1876 01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:17,280 Speaker 23: to people will not accept kindness for it, but I'm 1877 01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:22,320 Speaker 23: happy to, you know, take the money, pass it into 1878 01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:24,880 Speaker 23: the next hand, and give the guy the bread. And 1879 01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,679 Speaker 23: I think at the end of the day, like everybody wins. 1880 01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:30,160 Speaker 23: The people who made the bread are happy to have 1881 01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:33,240 Speaker 23: the money. The guy who bought the bread is happy 1882 01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:36,960 Speaker 23: to trade money for bread or GPS whatever it is. 1883 01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:46,240 Speaker 2: Do you feel like this role the one that you're pursuing. 1884 01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,559 Speaker 2: Which of the options when you were sort of weighing 1885 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,720 Speaker 2: whether to go to the new place or to get 1886 01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:57,200 Speaker 2: promoted at the old place, which option do you feel 1887 01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:59,920 Speaker 2: like afforded you the better opportunity to help people? 1888 01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:13,160 Speaker 23: Hmmm, I would say probably roughly the same. 1889 01:44:14,080 --> 01:44:15,240 Speaker 2: I think roughly the same. 1890 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, the new role in. 1891 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:26,160 Speaker 23: General, I think on a more granular level, I'm my 1892 01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,800 Speaker 23: role would be exclusively helping people, but in a very 1893 01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:34,400 Speaker 23: small way, whereas the other role is I have less 1894 01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:40,439 Speaker 23: opportunity to genuinely help someone, but it's a much larger 1895 01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:48,920 Speaker 23: amount of help I provide them. 1896 01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:55,280 Speaker 2: So one role, you provide lots of people with a 1897 01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:59,400 Speaker 2: smaller amount of help. On the other role, you provide 1898 01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:01,800 Speaker 2: less people with a greater amount of help. 1899 01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:04,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly. 1900 01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:08,519 Speaker 2: So if you view these two positions as equal in 1901 01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,240 Speaker 2: terms of your ability, in terms of how they serve 1902 01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:18,240 Speaker 2: you know what your true goal is? Then why does 1903 01:45:18,280 --> 01:45:20,640 Speaker 2: it Why is it such a big conflict for you 1904 01:45:20,720 --> 01:45:21,599 Speaker 2: which one to choose? 1905 01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:31,840 Speaker 23: Because the current role is I'm I'm sort of implicitly 1906 01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:38,439 Speaker 23: siding with people who did people I care about dirty, 1907 01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:44,080 Speaker 23: you know what I mean? Like, so I feel like, 1908 01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:44,880 Speaker 23: you know. 1909 01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:46,720 Speaker 8: If I were to. 1910 01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:52,840 Speaker 23: Come up with an example here, but like you know, 1911 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:57,200 Speaker 23: let's say your favorite your favorite athlete or a musician 1912 01:45:57,720 --> 01:46:04,240 Speaker 23: turns out he like, yeah, sold a bunch of math 1913 01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:07,439 Speaker 23: to orphans. You feel pretty bad about like buying his 1914 01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:09,720 Speaker 23: CDs after that, Right, you'd be like, I don't know. 1915 01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:13,040 Speaker 8: About that, Like, uh, it'll feel a little weird. 1916 01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:15,040 Speaker 23: I think it's the same way like. 1917 01:46:14,960 --> 01:46:17,320 Speaker 2: I'm Justin Bieber actually did that? You can look that up. 1918 01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:23,200 Speaker 23: Yeah, I believe you to orphans. 1919 01:46:23,880 --> 01:46:31,479 Speaker 2: Okay, Justin. You can google Justin Bieber orphan myths. It'll 1920 01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:32,040 Speaker 2: come up. 1921 01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:35,639 Speaker 5: Like first result or do I have to look? 1922 01:46:40,200 --> 01:46:43,920 Speaker 2: I think what's important is that whatever you do choose, 1923 01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:47,200 Speaker 2: what are you? Are you confident in the decision you've chosen? 1924 01:46:47,479 --> 01:46:51,000 Speaker 2: Are you like gung ho down that pass? Because that's 1925 01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:52,240 Speaker 2: the that's the that's the thing. 1926 01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:52,600 Speaker 8: You know. 1927 01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:56,519 Speaker 2: What I heard of someone say once about decision making 1928 01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:00,719 Speaker 2: is that whether or not your decision is right decision, 1929 01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:03,360 Speaker 2: you you actually have more control over that than you 1930 01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,439 Speaker 2: think right, because whatever you choose, there is no right decision. 1931 01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:09,439 Speaker 2: You choose something and then you make that the right decision, 1932 01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:11,599 Speaker 2: If that makes any sense. 1933 01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:16,240 Speaker 23: Yeah, definitely, I saw something kind of similar about that 1934 01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,840 Speaker 23: where someone was talking about you're looking at a fruit 1935 01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:20,960 Speaker 23: tree with a bunch of nice pieces of fruit on it, 1936 01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:23,800 Speaker 23: and they got there deciding which piece of fruit to 1937 01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:26,519 Speaker 23: take and over for time, oil the fruit out to 1938 01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:30,599 Speaker 23: the ground. And you know, God, exactly exactly, man, So 1939 01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:34,719 Speaker 23: I think you're absolutely right. It is more about making 1940 01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:36,439 Speaker 23: a choice in committing What. 1941 01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:37,400 Speaker 2: Did you say. Your name was. 1942 01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:39,640 Speaker 8: Bronson? 1943 01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,240 Speaker 2: Bronson? Well, Bronson? Man, you know, good good, good luck 1944 01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:46,479 Speaker 2: to you in the future. And I appreciate you sharing 1945 01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:47,320 Speaker 2: with us. 1946 01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,160 Speaker 23: Yeah, thank you taking my call. Man, I appreciate it. 1947 01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:52,920 Speaker 2: Of course. Man. I'll talk to you soon. You have 1948 01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:55,000 Speaker 2: a good night, you too, buddy. 1949 01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:55,599 Speaker 8: Take care. 1950 01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:08,679 Speaker 10: All from beaiter yeah, beatter, Yeah, moderator, batter. 1951 01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,439 Speaker 2: You got batter. You gotta turn your you gotta turn 1952 01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:16,080 Speaker 2: your stream off. You gotta turn the stream off better. Oh, 1953 01:48:16,479 --> 01:48:21,280 Speaker 2: because I can hear it in the background. Beata Are 1954 01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:21,719 Speaker 2: you there? 1955 01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:23,160 Speaker 14: I'm there? 1956 01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:26,479 Speaker 2: Uh? Who are you bad? 1957 01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:32,519 Speaker 26: I'm I'm just a door dasher, delivering people's food to 1958 01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:36,439 Speaker 26: them every day. 1959 01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:39,880 Speaker 2: Are you on the job right now? 1960 01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:44,679 Speaker 26: I am not, but I did work about thirty minutes ago. 1961 01:48:45,800 --> 01:48:46,360 Speaker 2: In the snow. 1962 01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:51,519 Speaker 14: No, I'm not on the East Coast. 1963 01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:54,800 Speaker 2: Do you like door Dash? 1964 01:48:56,240 --> 01:49:00,720 Speaker 14: I mean, it's all right, it's notch that you get 1965 01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,240 Speaker 14: to do what you want, work when you want. 1966 01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:06,600 Speaker 26: You know, have a boss or your own boss. 1967 01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:13,960 Speaker 2: You know, you'd be good in like a commercial for 1968 01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:17,040 Speaker 2: working for them, and you can just say exactly what 1969 01:49:17,080 --> 01:49:19,880 Speaker 2: you said just now, exactly how you said it, and 1970 01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:21,640 Speaker 2: I would actually be pretty sold. 1971 01:49:23,240 --> 01:49:25,160 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, yeah. 1972 01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:27,559 Speaker 14: Do you think corporate cares? Do you think they care 1973 01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:29,120 Speaker 14: about their door dash drivers? 1974 01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:33,280 Speaker 2: Probably not, no, But I think that the like if 1975 01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:37,160 Speaker 2: I saw a commercial h for like, sign up to 1976 01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:42,040 Speaker 2: run door dash and you said exactly like, yeah, it's 1977 01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:43,760 Speaker 2: kind of cool. You get to make it like that, 1978 01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:47,960 Speaker 2: I'd be like, I believe that that is what that 1979 01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:51,360 Speaker 2: experience is like, as opposed to if you know it 1980 01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:54,000 Speaker 2: was it was it was ultra upbeat or anything like that. 1981 01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:57,759 Speaker 14: Yeah, and that's just the truth. 1982 01:49:58,720 --> 01:49:59,040 Speaker 5: It is. 1983 01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:00,599 Speaker 2: Well, what's your talent? 1984 01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:06,640 Speaker 14: I breed fish. 1985 01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:07,639 Speaker 2: How'd you get into that? 1986 01:50:09,160 --> 01:50:09,479 Speaker 23: Well? 1987 01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:13,040 Speaker 26: I started with a thirty five gallon tank and I 1988 01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:16,120 Speaker 26: had fish in it, and then they had babies and 1989 01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:18,120 Speaker 26: I was like, well, in no way. And then I 1990 01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:21,200 Speaker 26: got a bigger tank, and then I got more fish, 1991 01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:24,360 Speaker 26: specifically guppies, and. 1992 01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:29,920 Speaker 2: Plecos plucos Yep, what is a pleco? 1993 01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:35,280 Speaker 14: A pleco? It's like it's like the bottom feeder. 1994 01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:38,760 Speaker 26: It sucks everything it gets big. They can be striped, 1995 01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:41,680 Speaker 26: just the bottom feeder of the tank, and they're kind 1996 01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:42,400 Speaker 26: of dope looking. 1997 01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:46,120 Speaker 2: What do you do with the fish after you breathe them? 1998 01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:46,840 Speaker 2: Do you sell them? 1999 01:50:48,240 --> 01:50:48,639 Speaker 7: Nah? 2000 01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:51,320 Speaker 26: I just either feed them to the catfish I have 2001 01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:55,000 Speaker 26: the babies, or I leave them the tank from the girl. 2002 01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:58,519 Speaker 2: So you have a separate How many different tanks do 2003 01:50:58,560 --> 01:50:59,880 Speaker 2: you have? 2004 01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:00,360 Speaker 12: Three? 2005 01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:02,920 Speaker 2: So you got a predator tank and a prey tank. 2006 01:51:05,360 --> 01:51:08,000 Speaker 14: Yeah, pretty much. I don't think of it like that, but. 2007 01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:11,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. You don't really have to so you 2008 01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:15,680 Speaker 2: have fuck, dude, that's like this This is like a 2009 01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:18,640 Speaker 2: fish pyramid scheme of some kind because you don't have 2010 01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:24,439 Speaker 2: to buy fish food because you have other fish that 2011 01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:25,760 Speaker 2: are food. 2012 01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:26,759 Speaker 5: Yep. 2013 01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:30,400 Speaker 26: And I have plants, so everything like cleans itself. I 2014 01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:32,800 Speaker 26: have shrimp that clean the plants, and the plants clean 2015 01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:36,439 Speaker 26: the water, so everything's like I can't just leave it 2016 01:51:37,240 --> 01:51:41,760 Speaker 26: and it works like by itself, like an ecosystem. 2017 01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:43,880 Speaker 2: Does it make you feel like God? 2018 01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:53,120 Speaker 26: I mean I control their lives, I control if they 2019 01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:56,679 Speaker 26: eat I control if it's day or night. I control 2020 01:51:56,720 --> 01:52:00,800 Speaker 26: the temperature, I control much water is in there tank. 2021 01:52:01,600 --> 01:52:03,080 Speaker 2: Do you enjoy having that power? 2022 01:52:04,720 --> 01:52:05,360 Speaker 14: I guess I do. 2023 01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:09,360 Speaker 9: I do. 2024 01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:12,880 Speaker 2: Do you feel like in general you you have like 2025 01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:17,720 Speaker 2: a lack of power in your life that you make 2026 01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:20,080 Speaker 2: up for with this power over the fish? 2027 01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:23,120 Speaker 14: Maybe? 2028 01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:27,160 Speaker 9: Maybe? 2029 01:52:32,920 --> 01:52:36,439 Speaker 26: Do you think the fish are like like they mean 2030 01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:40,240 Speaker 26: something else because of something else? Like the fish are. 2031 01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:46,360 Speaker 10: Mm hmm, I. 2032 01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:48,080 Speaker 14: Got coping mechanism for something. 2033 01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:51,599 Speaker 2: Do you think they're a coping mechanism for something? 2034 01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:59,679 Speaker 26: I think they're in an escape from reality. I think 2035 01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:03,400 Speaker 26: when I with my fish and I'm feeding my fish, 2036 01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:06,360 Speaker 26: I'm cleaning their tank. The only thing that's there, The 2037 01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:09,160 Speaker 26: only thing I'm thinking about is me and my fish. 2038 01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:14,680 Speaker 2: Yes exactly, but I yeah. I mean, look, that's not 2039 01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:18,559 Speaker 2: that much different from fucking any other action that isn't 2040 01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:22,640 Speaker 2: just kind of sitting and staring at the wall. You know, 2041 01:53:23,320 --> 01:53:27,080 Speaker 2: right when you're with your fish, you're focused one. 2042 01:53:28,160 --> 01:53:32,280 Speaker 26: Well, like looking at wall and looking at fish like 2043 01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:38,160 Speaker 26: my fish like everything's different, they're different colors. You don't 2044 01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:40,400 Speaker 26: know what's going to happen. Everything's random. 2045 01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:51,160 Speaker 2: What do you feel like you're escaping from? 2046 01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:52,320 Speaker 14: Probably taxes? 2047 01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:57,559 Speaker 26: I'm very I don't know anything about that. That's my 2048 01:53:57,600 --> 01:53:59,040 Speaker 26: biggest worry about right now. 2049 01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:01,000 Speaker 14: I do door dash. 2050 01:54:01,479 --> 01:54:03,680 Speaker 26: They don't tell me anything about taxes. All they did 2051 01:54:03,760 --> 01:54:07,040 Speaker 26: was send me a paper the school like I'm in 2052 01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:09,280 Speaker 26: high school, like senior year all that. 2053 01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:09,920 Speaker 14: I'm eighteen. 2054 01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,400 Speaker 26: By the way, I just about to put that out 2055 01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:13,519 Speaker 26: there because I just said that. 2056 01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:21,040 Speaker 2: And yeah, how much money did you make doing door 2057 01:54:21,120 --> 01:54:24,120 Speaker 2: dash in twenty twenty? 2058 01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:28,639 Speaker 26: In twenty twenty, I started in November, so I made 2059 01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:34,520 Speaker 26: in November and December I made like four hundred bucks. 2060 01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:40,200 Speaker 2: I don't think you have to pay taxes in twenty twenty, 2061 01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:41,680 Speaker 2: so you don't have to worry about that. 2062 01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:43,480 Speaker 9: Thank you. 2063 01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:46,280 Speaker 2: Would you say your name. 2064 01:54:46,240 --> 01:54:52,880 Speaker 14: Was Peter but it's Peter? Well, yeah, do. 2065 01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:56,040 Speaker 2: You feel like, over the course of this call you 2066 01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:58,280 Speaker 2: kind of started out with a fake name and then 2067 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:02,080 Speaker 2: can we establish a little bit of trust between each 2068 01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:03,560 Speaker 2: other that you gave me the real one? 2069 01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:06,240 Speaker 12: Yeah? 2070 01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:08,080 Speaker 26: And I think it's I think it's a little obvious 2071 01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:10,760 Speaker 26: that my name was Peter, because you know. 2072 01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:13,840 Speaker 2: The b MP, I thought it was Beata like masturbaiter 2073 01:55:14,240 --> 01:55:15,680 Speaker 2: and I thought you were gonna call in the. 2074 01:55:15,640 --> 01:55:20,240 Speaker 26: Trol Oh no, like like my friends call me Peter 2075 01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:21,360 Speaker 26: and stuff. 2076 01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:23,800 Speaker 14: Like a nickname. 2077 01:55:25,320 --> 01:55:32,360 Speaker 4: Have a good night, bater you too, Oh all from Willie. 2078 01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,480 Speaker 16: Kee key Mama, kee key MoMA, keim on my key 2079 01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:40,920 Speaker 16: kee keem my key Mama. Where did you put the 2080 01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:42,720 Speaker 16: keys to my car? 2081 01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:43,320 Speaker 11: Car? 2082 01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:47,840 Speaker 16: What didn't you put the fucking keys to my fucking car. 2083 01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,480 Speaker 4: I gotta go to the. 2084 01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:56,240 Speaker 2: Store and buy myself a loaf of bread to make 2085 01:55:56,360 --> 01:56:02,040 Speaker 2: some peanut butter jelly sandwich cheese. I will give me my. 2086 01:56:04,680 --> 01:56:07,160 Speaker 9: Jelly sandwiches. So I had your keys. 2087 01:56:07,400 --> 01:56:08,560 Speaker 2: I hid your keys. 2088 01:56:08,640 --> 01:56:12,160 Speaker 24: You said, don't hit my keys, don't hit my keys, please. 2089 01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:13,280 Speaker 18: But I did it anyway. 2090 01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:16,000 Speaker 2: I do it every day, and I'll do it and 2091 01:56:16,080 --> 01:56:19,560 Speaker 2: I'll do it until you pay me five dollars. 2092 01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:25,080 Speaker 16: Mama, Please don't hurt my keys. I don't have five 2093 01:56:25,240 --> 01:56:29,000 Speaker 16: dollars in my bank account right now. 2094 01:56:29,800 --> 01:56:32,600 Speaker 2: Why do you do this to me? I don't have 2095 01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:36,520 Speaker 2: a lot of cheese, Mama. Please don't hide my key. 2096 01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:37,760 Speaker 18: Please. 2097 01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:42,600 Speaker 24: You better I get a job or learn to bob, 2098 01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:45,800 Speaker 24: or get some keys that are hanging on a bob 2099 01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:49,480 Speaker 24: that I got that money in my little sonney. If 2100 01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:54,120 Speaker 24: you want anything hot butter and honey. 2101 01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:57,640 Speaker 2: I don't want to live a life of crime. 2102 01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:00,720 Speaker 8: Well that's too bad. 2103 01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:10,440 Speaker 16: I don't want to, but I need a few dimes 2104 01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:13,600 Speaker 16: to get my peanut butter jelly sandwiches. 2105 01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:19,880 Speaker 24: Mama, Please, you could maybe try investing in the market 2106 01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:22,960 Speaker 24: and may get some dollars. You will outline and then 2107 01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,960 Speaker 24: if some people holler, they say some things and they'll 2108 01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:27,320 Speaker 24: phone it rings that you. 2109 01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:29,360 Speaker 8: Broke you've gone broke their. 2110 01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:36,720 Speaker 2: What's your talent? 2111 01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:38,760 Speaker 7: That? 2112 01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:41,040 Speaker 2: I guess that was pretty good. 2113 01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:41,480 Speaker 17: That was a lot. 2114 01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:44,280 Speaker 2: You know. I came in, you know, I came into 2115 01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:46,200 Speaker 2: this and I and I was like, I started, like, 2116 01:57:46,320 --> 01:57:49,240 Speaker 2: you know, I opened it right and then and then 2117 01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:50,880 Speaker 2: you started rhyming, and I was like, oh, this guy's 2118 01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:56,040 Speaker 2: way better than me at this. And uh, but you know, 2119 01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:56,560 Speaker 2: I tried. 2120 01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:01,480 Speaker 24: You're clearly the best at what you do. 2121 01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:04,879 Speaker 2: Not like, are we talking about like within that interaction 2122 01:58:04,920 --> 01:58:05,480 Speaker 2: that we had. 2123 01:58:05,360 --> 01:58:08,120 Speaker 24: Just now, No, I'm talking about whatever it is that 2124 01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:10,080 Speaker 24: you do. Like, I don't know how you describe your 2125 01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:12,160 Speaker 24: streams to people when you tell people you stream, but 2126 01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:14,200 Speaker 24: you're clearly really good at what you're doing. 2127 01:58:15,600 --> 01:58:18,040 Speaker 2: You know, there's a trick to being really good at 2128 01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:18,560 Speaker 2: what you do. 2129 01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:21,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, I believe it's Look. 2130 01:58:22,240 --> 01:58:28,480 Speaker 2: Only well, here's the thing. Yeah, I feel like, well, 2131 01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:32,040 Speaker 2: it depends. Like, look, if you look at what I 2132 01:58:32,080 --> 01:58:35,120 Speaker 2: do as interviewing, like, of course I'm not the best 2133 01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:37,280 Speaker 2: inn of course I'm not the best interviewer. But if 2134 01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:41,080 Speaker 2: you look at what I'm doing as you know, doing myself, 2135 01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:44,280 Speaker 2: of course I'm the best person at doing myself. But 2136 01:58:44,440 --> 01:58:47,440 Speaker 2: like you know, if you're doing something that you would 2137 01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:49,640 Speaker 2: describe as doing yourself, then if no one can, no 2138 01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:51,400 Speaker 2: one can be better than you if you're doing yourself. 2139 01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:53,760 Speaker 2: I know that that sounds fucking cheesy, by I do 2140 01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,000 Speaker 2: believe in that, right, But you. 2141 01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:59,280 Speaker 24: Found a way of being yourself. It's clearly very entertaining 2142 01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:00,520 Speaker 24: to a large number people. 2143 01:59:01,640 --> 01:59:03,120 Speaker 2: I found a good medium for it. 2144 01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:04,560 Speaker 8: Mmm, you did. 2145 01:59:04,760 --> 01:59:07,880 Speaker 24: It's a new medium, which is very cool. It's very 2146 01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:09,480 Speaker 24: cool to live in the time when people can do 2147 01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:09,960 Speaker 24: things like this. 2148 01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:14,800 Speaker 2: It's hard. It's a lazy medium, streaming, it's a very 2149 01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:16,120 Speaker 2: lazy medium. 2150 01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:17,080 Speaker 10: It is. 2151 01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:20,440 Speaker 2: It is laborious. But it's like before this, I used 2152 01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:23,840 Speaker 2: to make movies. You know, it's so like making a 2153 01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:28,480 Speaker 2: movie or like editing of it's so you it's the 2154 01:59:28,520 --> 01:59:32,200 Speaker 2: opposite of this. Because this I'm here, I'm in lights 2155 01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:37,520 Speaker 2: for three hours talking to people editing a movie or 2156 01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:40,960 Speaker 2: a video is you're alone in the dark, you talk 2157 01:59:41,080 --> 01:59:44,800 Speaker 2: to no one for days, but it's it's but you 2158 01:59:44,840 --> 01:59:47,960 Speaker 2: come out with a more refined product than just sitting 2159 01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:51,480 Speaker 2: around blabbing on a stream, right. 2160 01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:54,000 Speaker 24: I It's that's very funny because I also do a 2161 01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:56,080 Speaker 24: lot of editing, and it's like you're it's like you're 2162 01:59:56,200 --> 01:59:59,280 Speaker 24: charging up for this one big blast, and you really 2163 01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:02,040 Speaker 24: hope the blast is perfect and they're getting to do 2164 02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:04,400 Speaker 24: something like this, and I do something a little bit similar. 2165 02:00:04,440 --> 02:00:06,280 Speaker 24: But I don't mean to compare myself to the geck, 2166 02:00:06,560 --> 02:00:08,720 Speaker 24: but it's kind of like, oh, I can say anything 2167 02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:12,440 Speaker 24: and it's all equally valid, and if it's like not perfect, 2168 02:00:12,560 --> 02:00:14,880 Speaker 24: it's nested in the middle of a three hour stream, 2169 02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:17,160 Speaker 24: So who exactly you know exactly right? 2170 02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:19,280 Speaker 9: Yeah? Yeah it man, you get. 2171 02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:23,160 Speaker 2: And another thing is is like I feel like on 2172 02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:28,200 Speaker 2: a on a stream, I think you're more raw because 2173 02:00:28,960 --> 02:00:31,640 Speaker 2: in like a video or like a fucking tweet, even 2174 02:00:32,040 --> 02:00:35,960 Speaker 2: anything that's pre written, it go, you type something or 2175 02:00:35,960 --> 02:00:38,480 Speaker 2: you make something and then you're like, now that sounds stupid, 2176 02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:39,880 Speaker 2: and you throw it out and you come back. But 2177 02:00:39,920 --> 02:00:41,760 Speaker 2: now if I say something and I'm like and I 2178 02:00:41,800 --> 02:00:44,080 Speaker 2: think right after I said it, I think that's stupid. 2179 02:00:44,160 --> 02:00:45,840 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's already out. I'm not time. 2180 02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:48,880 Speaker 2: I can't attract it. So it's the most raw version 2181 02:00:48,920 --> 02:00:51,440 Speaker 2: of your thoughts, and you. 2182 02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:53,440 Speaker 24: Always have the option of going back and making a 2183 02:00:53,480 --> 02:00:54,800 Speaker 24: more refined version of it. 2184 02:00:55,160 --> 02:00:56,560 Speaker 17: Yes, but you don't have to. 2185 02:00:57,160 --> 02:00:58,160 Speaker 2: It's true, that's true. 2186 02:00:58,400 --> 02:00:59,080 Speaker 24: I never do. 2187 02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:01,920 Speaker 2: Well, what is this thing that you do that you 2188 02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:04,680 Speaker 2: were saying? Is similar? Do do do you stream? 2189 02:01:05,160 --> 02:01:05,839 Speaker 9: I do stream? 2190 02:01:05,960 --> 02:01:10,920 Speaker 24: I stream with a character, and I don't usually talk 2191 02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:12,760 Speaker 24: about it, but I might as well, because. 2192 02:01:12,520 --> 02:01:15,800 Speaker 2: You seem to stream. 2193 02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:17,800 Speaker 24: Streaming as a character, and uh, you get the character? 2194 02:01:17,880 --> 02:01:18,920 Speaker 8: Is it's I pretend to be. 2195 02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:21,560 Speaker 24: A German Man and I like play the song and 2196 02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:23,480 Speaker 24: I do it on here and it's a fun time. 2197 02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:29,160 Speaker 2: You pretend to be a German Man on our pet. Yes, Yes, 2198 02:01:29,760 --> 02:01:32,960 Speaker 2: his name Himie Wilhelm, Jimie Wilhelm. 2199 02:01:33,200 --> 02:01:35,879 Speaker 24: If I may, yeah, if I may say his name. 2200 02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:39,440 Speaker 2: Of course. Well, now, uh tell me the tell me 2201 02:01:39,480 --> 02:01:42,160 Speaker 2: the origin of himI Heimi Wilhelm. 2202 02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:43,080 Speaker 8: That's a great question. 2203 02:01:44,240 --> 02:01:46,080 Speaker 24: Are you familiar with the band of wolf Peck? 2204 02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:47,840 Speaker 8: Uh? 2205 02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:48,280 Speaker 9: They do that? 2206 02:01:48,440 --> 02:01:49,920 Speaker 2: What does the fox say song? 2207 02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:50,880 Speaker 11: No? 2208 02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:53,680 Speaker 24: That is that's that's a guy from a different country. 2209 02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:56,400 Speaker 2: But I am not familiar with the band will Wolf Peck. 2210 02:01:56,480 --> 02:01:58,840 Speaker 24: Then they're they're they're phenomenal. 2211 02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:01,200 Speaker 8: But I happened to have. 2212 02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:04,600 Speaker 24: Gone to a summer camp where the big front man, 2213 02:02:04,680 --> 02:02:06,960 Speaker 24: Jack Stratton, was a teacher and I learned from him, 2214 02:02:07,120 --> 02:02:09,320 Speaker 24: and he had a character named Mushi Krongole, who was 2215 02:02:09,400 --> 02:02:10,720 Speaker 24: like anyone out there. 2216 02:02:10,720 --> 02:02:12,480 Speaker 9: If you google Mushi Krongle. 2217 02:02:12,120 --> 02:02:15,840 Speaker 24: There's some very very nice stuff. And I don't know, 2218 02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:18,480 Speaker 24: I just wanted a character too. So I started doing 2219 02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:22,000 Speaker 24: this bullshit in college and then kept doing it after 2220 02:02:22,040 --> 02:02:25,360 Speaker 24: college and live settings, and then live shows went away, 2221 02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:29,200 Speaker 24: and then I discovered our pen and had a blast. 2222 02:02:28,120 --> 02:02:32,720 Speaker 2: And so you were doing this German Man of live 2223 02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:36,320 Speaker 2: shows of it. Yeah, yeah, Well how did these shows go? 2224 02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:39,680 Speaker 2: Were they pre written or were they improvised or the comedy? 2225 02:02:41,560 --> 02:02:42,200 Speaker 2: I'm curious? 2226 02:02:42,280 --> 02:02:46,040 Speaker 24: Yeah, absolutely, I you know. I also, in the before 2227 02:02:46,040 --> 02:02:47,840 Speaker 24: time did stand up, but I would find that his 2228 02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:49,720 Speaker 24: character would consistently. 2229 02:02:49,160 --> 02:02:50,240 Speaker 9: Do better than the stand up. 2230 02:02:50,720 --> 02:02:55,720 Speaker 24: Yeah, so I ended up doing character law. But I 2231 02:02:55,920 --> 02:02:58,440 Speaker 24: think it's it's it's correct. Me tell me if to 2232 02:02:58,480 --> 02:03:01,200 Speaker 24: do a similar for you. I don't know why the 2233 02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:04,760 Speaker 24: character works, do you claim to know why what you 2234 02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:07,200 Speaker 24: do works. 2235 02:03:08,320 --> 02:03:10,880 Speaker 2: I have I think I know why what I well, 2236 02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:13,480 Speaker 2: it depends on how you define works, because you could 2237 02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:16,400 Speaker 2: define that if you wanted to define that as objective, 2238 02:03:16,440 --> 02:03:19,880 Speaker 2: if you want to find that objectively as like are 2239 02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:23,120 Speaker 2: there people watching me do this right now? Then yes 2240 02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:26,440 Speaker 2: it works objectively. But if you wanted to find it 2241 02:03:26,800 --> 02:03:30,200 Speaker 2: like you know, is it? You know, there's a lot 2242 02:03:30,200 --> 02:03:35,440 Speaker 2: of different ways to define if something works. But I 2243 02:03:35,480 --> 02:03:37,760 Speaker 2: think I don't know if I went into why I 2244 02:03:37,760 --> 02:03:42,960 Speaker 2: thought this worked, it would I think I'd get to, uh, 2245 02:03:43,440 --> 02:03:47,080 Speaker 2: you know, I know why it works for me. I 2246 02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:49,360 Speaker 2: used to do stand up in the before times, and 2247 02:03:49,480 --> 02:03:52,280 Speaker 2: like if I can. If I came on a stream, 2248 02:03:52,920 --> 02:03:57,040 Speaker 2: if and I was like, I'm Lyle and this is 2249 02:03:57,200 --> 02:04:00,920 Speaker 2: the Lile Advice Hour with me, I'd be like, I'm 2250 02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:04,160 Speaker 2: a fucking douche. I should go kill myself. What am 2251 02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:07,080 Speaker 2: I doing? But but when you're doing it with like 2252 02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:11,840 Speaker 2: a character, when you're doing it, it's it's so much 2253 02:04:12,000 --> 02:04:14,880 Speaker 2: less personal. You have you have you, there's so much more. 2254 02:04:16,760 --> 02:04:20,160 Speaker 2: I don't even know how you would like, you know, detachment, 2255 02:04:20,680 --> 02:04:22,880 Speaker 2: but like the good kind of detachment that that that 2256 02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:25,720 Speaker 2: makes you looser. If that makes sense. 2257 02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:29,120 Speaker 24: Yeah, I honestly I feel the same way, and I 2258 02:04:29,160 --> 02:04:30,560 Speaker 24: couldn't say it better myself. 2259 02:04:30,920 --> 02:04:34,280 Speaker 2: I want to know about this will because I did. 2260 02:04:34,920 --> 02:04:37,240 Speaker 2: When Pandemic is over. I want to do the therapy 2261 02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:39,360 Speaker 2: echo live, but I I am trying to work out 2262 02:04:39,400 --> 02:04:41,960 Speaker 2: how that would work. What I want to do is 2263 02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:45,640 Speaker 2: I want to just take calls, stream it stream like 2264 02:04:45,880 --> 02:04:48,320 Speaker 2: set up some cameras, stream it on Twitch, and just 2265 02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:50,480 Speaker 2: take do exactly what I'm doing, but with an audience. 2266 02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:54,320 Speaker 2: How did your streams go? What did you do? Or 2267 02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:55,120 Speaker 2: your shows? 2268 02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:58,680 Speaker 24: Well, for the shows, it would usually be like it 2269 02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:00,720 Speaker 24: would be comedy shows. If the end up stem stump 2270 02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:03,120 Speaker 24: and I would just do this character and it would 2271 02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:05,040 Speaker 24: just go get on stage with this with a saw, 2272 02:05:05,240 --> 02:05:08,040 Speaker 24: or like this omni chord, which is like really fun music, 2273 02:05:08,360 --> 02:05:10,680 Speaker 24: like electronic instrument, and I just be like, I don't 2274 02:05:10,720 --> 02:05:13,800 Speaker 24: have anything written, Like give me either a topic and 2275 02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:15,560 Speaker 24: I make up a song on the omni chord or 2276 02:05:15,600 --> 02:05:18,120 Speaker 24: I just do covers on the saw, but they're like fucked. 2277 02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:18,880 Speaker 8: Up because it's it's a musical. 2278 02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:20,320 Speaker 9: It's it's a regular saw. 2279 02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:23,080 Speaker 8: You cut woodwhip and you play with like a cello bow. 2280 02:05:22,960 --> 02:05:24,960 Speaker 24: And it sounds it's like, no matter what you play, 2281 02:05:24,960 --> 02:05:28,360 Speaker 24: it's gonna sound like fucked up that I don't know, 2282 02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:30,640 Speaker 24: it's just the fun thing. But like it's like this, 2283 02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:32,680 Speaker 24: you don't have to write anything, and like you said, yeah, 2284 02:05:32,680 --> 02:05:35,480 Speaker 24: it's kind of detached from you. So it's not like, oh, 2285 02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:38,240 Speaker 24: it's me Willy on stage and I wrote these jokes 2286 02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:39,680 Speaker 24: and if you don't like the jokes, that means you 2287 02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:40,480 Speaker 24: don't like me. 2288 02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:41,720 Speaker 8: But I'm not me. 2289 02:05:41,880 --> 02:05:43,600 Speaker 24: I'm this other guy, this character. 2290 02:05:44,240 --> 02:05:47,600 Speaker 4: So you know, it's heart. 2291 02:05:47,840 --> 02:05:50,640 Speaker 2: I think with streaming though, because like when you're if 2292 02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:53,480 Speaker 2: you if if you go on stage and you know 2293 02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:55,960 Speaker 2: you did stay, if you go on stage and you 2294 02:05:56,200 --> 02:06:00,400 Speaker 2: just start talking and everything you say does and sort 2295 02:06:00,400 --> 02:06:02,760 Speaker 2: of wrap up into a neat little bow that has 2296 02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:06,000 Speaker 2: a laugh at the end. It doesn't work live, But 2297 02:06:06,200 --> 02:06:08,120 Speaker 2: if you do it on the computer, it's different because 2298 02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:10,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I have to people watching this right now 2299 02:06:10,360 --> 02:06:12,840 Speaker 2: probably have it open in like another tab while they're 2300 02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:16,760 Speaker 2: like on Facebook or doing something else. It's not as intimate, right. 2301 02:06:18,080 --> 02:06:23,920 Speaker 24: Plus you know there's other the of the whole, you know, 2302 02:06:24,320 --> 02:06:28,280 Speaker 24: the cost background and the music. I mean, I don't 2303 02:06:28,280 --> 02:06:30,440 Speaker 24: know if you want to give away what is this 2304 02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:32,120 Speaker 24: music that you're playing quietly in the background. 2305 02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:39,320 Speaker 2: It's glorious. This music. It's it's called it's the first No, 2306 02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:42,880 Speaker 2: I think it's the third result that comes up when 2307 02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:45,880 Speaker 2: you type into YouTube cool ambient music. 2308 02:06:46,880 --> 02:06:48,120 Speaker 9: Okay, nice, that's all. 2309 02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:53,440 Speaker 24: But yeah, I mean, yeah, you should definitely do this live. 2310 02:06:55,160 --> 02:06:56,800 Speaker 2: I want to I'm trying to go. I'm trying to 2311 02:06:56,840 --> 02:07:00,600 Speaker 2: go everywhere I want to go to. Uh, I don't know. 2312 02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:05,000 Speaker 2: I'll figure it out. If I show up to goddamn Austin, 2313 02:07:05,120 --> 02:07:09,960 Speaker 2: Texas and three people come, If if one person comes, 2314 02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm literally just gonna live stream myself that that person. 2315 02:07:13,480 --> 02:07:16,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give them a microphone. We take calls. We'll 2316 02:07:16,760 --> 02:07:21,480 Speaker 2: do what we do, you know. Yeah, all right, you 2317 02:07:21,520 --> 02:07:24,040 Speaker 2: were good at that thing earlier. I can I can 2318 02:07:24,040 --> 02:07:27,440 Speaker 2: see that you have you some some chords. 2319 02:07:28,120 --> 02:07:28,920 Speaker 15: I appreciate that. 2320 02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:35,040 Speaker 2: Would you say your name was Willie? WILLI Well, well, 2321 02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:36,920 Speaker 2: thank you, Willie Man. I'll talk to you soon. I 2322 02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:39,640 Speaker 2: appreciate you absolutely, Thank you for having me on. You 2323 02:07:39,680 --> 02:07:46,920 Speaker 2: have a good night. Ma'am goes on the line, taking 2324 02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:48,520 Speaker 2: your own calls every night. 2325 02:07:50,920 --> 02:07:51,560 Speaker 1: He was teaching you. 2326 02:07:52,160 --> 02:07:52,600 Speaker 10: The intervie