Speaker 1: Hey, Jets fans, the time is finally upon us. It
Speaker 1: is draft week throughout the National Football League and here
Speaker 1: at One Jets Drive to preview what's ahead. We had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to NFL Networks draft guru Daniel Jeremiah.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows the draft as well as DJ. And then
Speaker 1: also Joe Douglas, the Jets football architect who will make
Speaker 1: the Jets selections next weekend talk to the media here
Speaker 1: at One Jets Drive and Caroline Hunter shot talk to him.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna right now on the pod this week
Speaker 1: talk to DJ, get his thoughts on the top prospects,
Speaker 1: and then Caroline is gonna go take a deep dive
Speaker 1: with Joe Douglas on the Jets football architects pre draft
Speaker 1: process in the final days the weight it's almost over, DJ,
Speaker 1: let's start your analysis right now with quarter back out
Speaker 1: of Appellationian State, Daniel Jeremiah, give me the scoutary report
Speaker 1: that dude coming out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna go with fin frame, durability concerns. There's
Speaker 2: been some injury history there. Decent athlete, you can run
Speaker 2: around a little bit. Although he's not gonna hold up
Speaker 2: if he if he plays that recklessly. Arm strength well
Speaker 2: below average. Uh, there's there's definitely Uh time, tends to
Speaker 2: be a little aggressive, doesn't have the arm to back
Speaker 2: that up, gets himself in some trouble that way. But
Speaker 2: a good kid, you gonna work hard, give you everything
Speaker 2: he's got. That's that's it.
Speaker 1: I love it. So let's fast forward a couple of
Speaker 1: years to Daniel Jeremiah working in Baltimore with a young
Speaker 1: Joe Douglas. What was j D like during that time?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Joe's I don't know that he's changed much.
Speaker 2: You know, he's he's always kind of been the same guy,
Speaker 2: very comfortable in his own skin, well liked by everybody,
Speaker 2: worked really really hard for h you know, I go
Speaker 2: back to just the days where we play basketball together.
Speaker 2: So he's uh, very you know, very competitive, but not
Speaker 2: gonna say a lot. I'm gonna just play real physical
Speaker 2: and tough. But yeah, no, I don't know that you'll
Speaker 2: find anybody have a bad word to say about Joe.
Speaker 3: It's it's easy.
Speaker 2: He's an easy guy to like and an easy guy
Speaker 2: to root for.
Speaker 1: Do you guys keep him at the low blocks? I
Speaker 1: mean he's only six foot four, but he's got that
Speaker 1: wide body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an offensive rebounder and then he's not gonna
Speaker 2: take a lot of shots. But you know, if you
Speaker 2: you know, if you can get him the ball down low,
Speaker 2: he's you know, he can back you up, thro thro
Speaker 2: his backside at you, and flip one in every now
Speaker 2: and then. But he's he's more of a he's he's
Speaker 2: more of a defensive rebounding guy on the on the court.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So speaking of rebounding, let's get to the
Speaker 1: meat and potatoes of it for the Jets at number
Speaker 1: ten overall, what do you think about the landscape he
Speaker 1: is facing.
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by it. I think there's a couple of
Speaker 2: different avenues you could look at there. You know, I
Speaker 2: did what I called my my chaos mock draft the
Speaker 2: last time we did it out of semi boredom.
Speaker 1: You cause a lot of headlines with that one I did.
Speaker 2: I had some fun with that one, but I just thought,
Speaker 2: you know, if the Chargers want to move out, the
Speaker 2: Jets are all in, let's try and make a trade
Speaker 2: here where they can get up and get Marvin Harrison Junior.
Speaker 2: I don't think they'll be that bold in this draft.
Speaker 2: With the with the limited picks that they have, I
Speaker 2: think if you're thinking of, you know, is there a
Speaker 2: chance that Jets move up at all? I think it
Speaker 2: would be a maybe a little baby move just to
Speaker 2: get ahead of the Chicago Bears. If if somehow at
Speaker 2: Douneesay was there at that point in time, I think
Speaker 2: he would make a lot of sense from that standpoint.
Speaker 2: But outside of that, if they stay where they are,
Speaker 2: I think you've got a decision coming down to you know,
Speaker 2: Brock Bauers a tight end versus the you know, the
Speaker 2: top available offensive tackles, So that to me would kind
Speaker 2: of frame you know, what direction they want to go
Speaker 2: and and what they feel their need?
Speaker 3: Is there?
Speaker 1: How unique of a draft is this at the top,
Speaker 1: because I your top fifty overall prospects, you have three
Speaker 1: receivers going two, three, four, and then they afore mentioned
Speaker 1: Bauers seven.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've got them, you know, rated so highly,
Speaker 2: and I don't think there's a lot of separation between
Speaker 2: those three wideouts. So we've got three of the top
Speaker 2: four players in the draft are wide receivers. I don't
Speaker 2: know that I've ever had that before, and they're all
Speaker 2: deserving of being up there, and then it's a you know,
Speaker 2: there's a drop off after those three guys, but then
Speaker 2: another wave of wide receivers and it's a good class there.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I remember as offensive heavy top
Speaker 2: of the draft as we have. I mean literally, you
Speaker 2: can go through the top ten and just use three
Speaker 2: positions and go, Okay, we're just gonna shop for quarterbacks, tackles,
Speaker 2: and receivers and we can fill out the entire top
Speaker 2: ten of the draft and you wouldn't be really a
Speaker 2: reach on anybody.
Speaker 1: Most likely scenario for the Jets though, you think Marvin
Speaker 1: Harrison and Malik Neighbors gone by the time we get
Speaker 1: to seven eight ish, because you've mentioned the possibility of
Speaker 1: a if you are going to move up, maybe roma
Speaker 1: Doonsday is still on the board and brock Bauers could
Speaker 1: still be there a ton right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I would give Jets fans hope from this standpoint.
Speaker 2: I remember, you know, the big Draft, the Sauce Gardner Draft,
Speaker 2: and thinking, Okay, you've got Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner,
Speaker 2: like that's a tough That's a tough one for me.
Speaker 2: I think that was like my third and fourth ranked
Speaker 2: players or something like that.
Speaker 3: And then I.
Speaker 2: Thought, there's no way Garrett Wilson gets to them at
Speaker 2: that point in time, after after Sauce, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: holy crap, like that all just kind of it all
Speaker 2: just worked out. It just all magically worked out. So
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there going, there's no way Rome gets there.
Speaker 2: He's the perfect fit. Like, if you ask me who
Speaker 2: is the perfect player to fit in with this group
Speaker 2: that they have, it would be him because Mike Williams
Speaker 2: can Now you don't have to rush him back when
Speaker 2: he gets back. You have Garrett and Rome can play
Speaker 2: inside if you want him to. So you get some
Speaker 2: interchangeable parts there, and now you've got some real depth
Speaker 2: at that position, which you didn't have last year. So that,
Speaker 2: to me is the home run pick. And I didn't
Speaker 2: I don't see that that could happen. But I also
Speaker 2: didn't envision, you know, that that draft went the way
Speaker 2: that it did. I didn't envision Brice Hall was going
Speaker 2: to be there in the second round. I didn't envision,
Speaker 2: you know, that you'd get the best pass thresher in
Speaker 2: the draft down there in the twenties. It just that
Speaker 2: one fell for him. So I'm not going to rule
Speaker 2: out the chance that maybe this is the second version
Speaker 2: of that and somehow Dounsday's there at ten.
Speaker 1: If Rome's the home run pick, I'm going to put
Speaker 1: you on the spot. These love baseball. We know the
Speaker 1: Padres are your team. Give me the triple, the double,
Speaker 1: and the single for the Jets, because one thing that's
Speaker 1: caught my year the way you've been talking about the
Speaker 1: tackles is you said you wake up every day feeling
Speaker 1: a little bit differently about each of the top five tackles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not that I fall out of love with
Speaker 2: any of them, just I appreciate the strengths of different
Speaker 2: guys in what they do. Like a great example, if
Speaker 2: you told me that they got you know, either Bowers
Speaker 2: as the tight end, or you said they got Fatanu
Speaker 2: from Washington or they got Fuaga from Oregon State, I
Speaker 2: would be equally excited with any of those three picks.
Speaker 2: And they all are distinctly different guys with different strengths
Speaker 2: to me, like Fatanu with his ability to play basically
Speaker 2: any of the five positions. We all know the injury
Speaker 2: history the Jets have had on this offensive line. We
Speaker 2: know that they've added two thirty three year old tackles.
Speaker 2: Having a guy that can that can move around wherever
Speaker 2: you need him to combined with vera Tucker who can
Speaker 2: move around wherever you need him to play, that provides
Speaker 2: you a tremendous, tremendous asset there. And then you talk
Speaker 2: about Fuaga. You know you can play you know, right tackle,
Speaker 2: can play guard. There's some there's some versatility there as well.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's quite as versatile as Fatano, but again,
Speaker 2: somebody who you know, he brings something specific to the table.
Speaker 2: So I think the Jets are in a great spot
Speaker 2: with what they need and the directions that they can go,
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's receiver, tight end, offensive line. I
Speaker 2: think they're in a great position to really help their
Speaker 2: offense here.
Speaker 1: You've spoken about eleven, twelve, thirteen, that each of those
Speaker 1: teams could be interested in quarterbacks. Any possibility there not
Speaker 1: for that slight move up, but a slight move back
Speaker 1: for the Jets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be all for it. You know that,
Speaker 2: you know, get some extra picks here, slide back a
Speaker 2: few spots. It is a you know, you have to
Speaker 2: be comfortable with several of these tackles, which I you
Speaker 2: know I could talk myself into it, so yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I you're trying to convince the you know, the Raiders
Speaker 2: or the Broncos to get ahead of the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're the Jets and you're a Jets fan,
Speaker 2: you're hoping that you don't see the trade up for
Speaker 2: the you know, for the quarterback too early there, because
Speaker 2: that could you could have some value to be able
Speaker 2: to move back on the other side of that coin.
Speaker 2: If people moving up for quarterbacks, maybe that's pushing down
Speaker 2: you know, the dunesday scenario that falls into your lap.
Speaker 2: So you can look at this each each way. Here,
Speaker 2: I just know whether they whether they stay where they are,
Speaker 2: maybe slightly move up a little bit for one player,
Speaker 2: or slightly move back. I think it's their position really
Speaker 2: really well for what they need to get accomplished.
Speaker 1: How much do you like the depth in this wide
Speaker 1: receiver class? Because if the Jets don't go wide out
Speaker 1: round one, Yeah, what options could be there on the
Speaker 1: board in three that would make a lot of sense
Speaker 1: for this team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, everybody's gonna have these guys in different order.
Speaker 2: For me, I'm a Malachi Corley fan. I like him
Speaker 2: a lot from Western Kentucky's great after the catch, just
Speaker 2: so physical and so tough. I think that's probably the
Speaker 2: sweet spot of where he goes. Roman Wilson's another one
Speaker 2: out of Michigan who's got some real juice, some real
Speaker 2: speed and can kind of play in there in the slot.
Speaker 2: So those would be a couple guys who would be
Speaker 2: intriguing to me. I think at the beginning of process
Speaker 2: you has said Ricky Piersall would be a great third
Speaker 2: round pick. I think he's run his way out of that.
Speaker 2: He's run his way into the second round, so I
Speaker 2: think he'll be long gone at that point in time.
Speaker 1: Developmental quarterback if the Jets go in that direction on
Speaker 1: Day three or some names that you.
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, Rattler's the one I would say would be
Speaker 2: the top one out of South Carolina. You know, there's
Speaker 2: obviously a lot of ability. There is big time recruit
Speaker 2: going into Oklahoma. You got better at South Carolina last
Speaker 2: couple of years. All the stuff you hear there has
Speaker 2: been positive in terms of the leadership, character, maturity.
Speaker 1: All that.
Speaker 2: So that would be the first one, and then I
Speaker 2: would say Leary would be the next one out of Kentucky,
Speaker 2: former NC state quarterback. I think there's something to work
Speaker 2: with there. But those would be the two guys. Pratt
Speaker 2: is the one that gets mentioned as, you know, as
Speaker 2: kind of someone that's intriguing. So that would be the
Speaker 2: order that I would have him. I would have it
Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler, I would have it Leary, then I'd have
Speaker 2: it Pratt DJ.
Speaker 1: Where's the best stup going to be found there on
Speaker 1: day three?
Speaker 2: In terms of value, Yeah, I think corners, you know,
Speaker 2: I think there's you know, corners. Uh, look, if you
Speaker 2: just go in the in the seventh round and you
Speaker 2: haven't watched any of these players and just went up
Speaker 2: to the board and grabbed every six foot corner that
Speaker 2: ran low four four, just grab them and be like, okay,
Speaker 2: well just pick we're gonna get one of these guys.
Speaker 2: And just they're lottery tickets, you know, just just take
Speaker 2: those lottery tickets and and and every now and then
Speaker 2: you're gonna hit on one worst case scenario, you've got
Speaker 2: a practice squad kid you can work with and develop.
Speaker 2: But to me, at that point in the draft, you're
Speaker 2: just gambling on traits.
Speaker 1: Speaking of trades, how about the running back position. The
Speaker 1: Jets drafted is Yobana Khana last year. They have one
Speaker 1: of the best backs in the National Football League in
Speaker 1: Preset Hall. But if they're going to add to the
Speaker 1: stable there on day three, you got a pair of
Speaker 1: fourth round selections obviously, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I can give you a couple.
Speaker 3: To me.
Speaker 2: I think there's like, if you're looking for complimentary pieces,
Speaker 2: there's there's a couple of different ways you can go here.
Speaker 2: I really like Ray Davis is kind of a you know,
Speaker 2: as a physical back. He's five a's two hundred and
Speaker 2: eleven pounds, but he's run really really hard. Out of Kentucky.
Speaker 2: He would be kind of in that vein, in that mode.
Speaker 2: I like Isaac Garrindo from Louisville. He ran his butt off.
Speaker 2: He ran the low four threes. I don't think he's
Speaker 2: the most elusive guy in the world, but he's got
Speaker 2: some size and some real speed, you know, to break
Speaker 2: away and do things there. My late one that I
Speaker 2: just watched the other day who I really liked was
Speaker 2: Blake Watson from Memphis. I mean he's he's five nine
Speaker 2: and a half, two hundred pounds. He ran four to
Speaker 2: four flat. He was an old dominion transfer who has
Speaker 2: got tons of production at Memphis, running the ball, catching
Speaker 2: the ball, he's got explosives, he worked out well, didn't
Speaker 2: get invited to comb I have no idea why, but
Speaker 2: to me, that's Memphis has been a running back factory
Speaker 2: and this guy's got excellent production. So that, to me
Speaker 2: is one that I had circled there on Day three.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned at the beginning of your conference call
Speaker 1: with the national media media that bottom line when you're
Speaker 1: looking at headlines for this draft offense, offense, offense. So
Speaker 1: you think that, hey, when we're done in Detroit April
Speaker 1: twenty seventh, and you're an NFL network, you're talking about
Speaker 1: that theme being the prevailing one coming out of the
Speaker 1: Motor City.
Speaker 2: I think so it is. It's a league with a
Speaker 2: lot of young quarterbacks right now, and it's a league
Speaker 2: that's going to welcome in a handful more in this draft,
Speaker 2: and I think you're going to see this draft as
Speaker 2: one to serve those young quarterbacks, and you know it's
Speaker 2: something that's a priority for these teams, and it just
Speaker 2: happens to be what the draft class has given us.
Speaker 1: Let's end here. You've been calling the games of the Chargers,
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, What do the Jets have in this new
Speaker 1: receiver and how excited are you to see him get
Speaker 1: paired up with the future Hall of Famer here in
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. I'll full honesty, and six years of
Speaker 2: doing the Chargers, there's not a player that I've been
Speaker 2: around that I enjoyed more than Mike Williams. I could
Speaker 2: put him right up there is my favorite.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 2: He is the best dude who everybody in the building
Speaker 2: is gonna know and love, who's never had a bad day.
Speaker 2: So you start first of all with the person. He's
Speaker 2: an energy giver. Everybody's gonna love being around him. As
Speaker 2: a player, he found ways and the big games the
Speaker 2: Chargers have been in the last six years and big wins.
Speaker 2: He had a major part of it. He loves the
Speaker 2: big stage, he loves big moments. He's as good as
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty ball catch guy as I've ever ever
Speaker 2: been around. He's outstanding there and has kind of a
Speaker 2: he has a little flair for the dramatics. So I
Speaker 2: think with the Jets with Aaron Rodgers, with a lot
Speaker 2: on the line, New York, the attention, big games primetime.
Speaker 2: I think this is kind of made for Mike Williams.
Speaker 4: Jill welcome into the studio. But first and foremost, there's
Speaker 4: a lot going on this week. Aaron Rodgers and the
Speaker 4: guys are back for the offseason program and draft is
Speaker 4: next week. What's the most exciting time for you about
Speaker 4: this period of time?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think a rams up once the
Speaker 5: players get back, you know, and you see the small faces,
Speaker 5: you see the guys dapping each other up and having
Speaker 5: fun on the field, and you know they're just the
Speaker 5: energy changes, you know, and and everything ramps up, and
Speaker 5: you know it's draft time shortly after that. So but
Speaker 5: we've had some great meetings leading up to this week
Speaker 5: and a lot of hard work by our coaches, our scouts, analytics,
Speaker 5: football add and everybody operations. And it's really god iss
Speaker 5: to this point where we're ready to ready to attack
Speaker 5: this draft next week.
Speaker 4: What is this pre draft process like for you and
Speaker 4: your team?
Speaker 3: It's it's it's hectic, it's busy.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: We we wrapped up our we're allowed to bring thirty
Speaker 5: pre draft visits in players to visit, and we want
Speaker 5: to make that a comprehensive visit. So these players can
Speaker 5: can touch every department in our building and for every
Speaker 5: department to have an opinion on them, so that in
Speaker 5: and of.
Speaker 3: Itself, it's it's it's a cool problem.
Speaker 5: And you get to know these guys, spend a little
Speaker 5: time with them, and along with the meetings that you
Speaker 5: have with the coaching staff, and then we get into
Speaker 5: our strategy meetings and we start going over every single
Speaker 5: scenario leading up to the draft. So it's busy, but
Speaker 5: it's fun. A lot of good, good discussions and getting
Speaker 5: to know the players and.
Speaker 3: Connect with them.
Speaker 4: Now, you started your career as a scout, So what
Speaker 4: is this whole process like for the scouts and how
Speaker 4: much work do they have to do going into this?
Speaker 3: So the process like this is like this is their
Speaker 3: super Bowl. You know this is this is a.
Speaker 5: Scout super bowl because you've been you've been working for
Speaker 5: this moment ever since May of twenty twenty three. You've
Speaker 5: been You've flipped the page on last year's draft and
Speaker 5: you start working on this year's draft, and it's just
Speaker 5: it's such a it's all it's a consuming thing. You're
Speaker 5: crisscrossing the country. You know, you're gone one hundred and
Speaker 5: eighty days out of the year, and you are taught
Speaker 5: so many different Every day is different. You're talking to
Speaker 5: different coaches every day, You're seeing how different programs will
Speaker 5: run every day, and you're getting such quality information. And
Speaker 5: then you have to have conviction on the guys that
Speaker 5: you really love and the guys you feel are going
Speaker 5: to come in here and stand for the right things
Speaker 5: and help the Jets win a Super Bowl. And so
Speaker 5: it is. It's a really special, special day, special weekend
Speaker 5: for the scouts.
Speaker 4: Now, I know the roster is never complete and you're
Speaker 4: about to add to it with the draft, But what
Speaker 4: do you think about your roster at this point in time.
Speaker 5: Well, I think there's a lot of depth, and I
Speaker 5: think we have dynamic playmakers on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 5: So and now it's just about coming together as a
Speaker 5: team as a team and doing our thing. But I
Speaker 5: feel like we're in a good position to have great
Speaker 5: flexibility as we go through the weekend with the draft.
Speaker 4: How did free agency impact how you're approaching the draft
Speaker 4: and your draft strategy.
Speaker 5: Well, free agency definitely impact it because what you don't
Speaker 5: want is you don't want a ton of glaring holes
Speaker 5: on your roster leading into the draft, so teams can
Speaker 5: lock in on you needing a specific position and training
Speaker 5: in front of you to try to get someone that
Speaker 5: they might like that they think you're going to draft.
Speaker 5: So I feel like we're going into this draft without
Speaker 5: any glaring holes or weaknesses on the roster that teams
Speaker 5: might look to try to get in front of us.
Speaker 4: For What do you like about the position of being
Speaker 4: at number ten and then having seven total picks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're in a good position.
Speaker 3: I feel like we're ready for anything. You know.
Speaker 5: If a lot of quarterbacks go, you know, that's great.
Speaker 5: If not a lot of quarterbacks grow, we're still going
Speaker 5: to be just fine. And a lot of discussions that
Speaker 5: we've had over the last couple of weeks where we
Speaker 5: want to make Friday, Thursday, Friday Saturday just almost.
Speaker 3: Surgical, you know, just we know what we're doing.
Speaker 5: We've had all these discussions, We've talked about every single scenario.
Speaker 5: Now we're letting the board follow us and we're just executing.
Speaker 4: How do you prepare for all of those different scenarios?
Speaker 4: What does that really look like for you and the team.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we get in a room and we hash out
Speaker 5: every single scenario that can happen, and you know these
Speaker 5: players are here, what are you doing? You got to
Speaker 5: move up? Would you consider moving back? How far would
Speaker 5: you be back? So we have so we have all
Speaker 5: these discussions leading up and then you know, we kind
Speaker 5: of create our game plan and we just we have
Speaker 5: our list of guys and we just go down the
Speaker 5: list and it's just just execute.
Speaker 4: Now, you've put in so much work to get to
Speaker 4: this point. What happens in the final few days leading
Speaker 4: up to the draft? Is it pretty much nothing happens?
Speaker 4: Or are you working up until that last second?
Speaker 5: I think in terms of evaluations, pretty much the Hayes
Speaker 5: and the barn you're just working the last second, talking
Speaker 5: to talking to teams about possible trade scenarios. You know,
Speaker 5: you're having conversations with agents. You know, you just there's conversations.
Speaker 5: But in terms of the actual player evaluations, those are
Speaker 5: pretty much gone. Now we're just talking about draft DA scenarios.
Speaker 4: Now. What do you think about having the last pick
Speaker 4: in the draft mister Irrelevant this year?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I love it.
Speaker 5: I've never I've never been part of a team that's
Speaker 5: had mister Irrelevant, So I'm actually looking forward to it.
Speaker 5: And obviously there's it's still it's gonna be a great
Speaker 5: opportunity to at a player that we think can help
Speaker 5: us long term.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited about that.
Speaker 4: And lastly, why is the undrafted free agent process so
Speaker 4: important to you guys after the draft?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that that really is the cherry on top.
Speaker 5: I mean, because that's where you really make your hay
Speaker 5: is finding finding undrafted free agents that can make your team.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's a that's a special thing.
Speaker 5: And the last few years we've had our our our staff,
Speaker 5: our college scouting staff, our pro scouting staff, and our
Speaker 5: coaches have done a really good job of recruiting these
Speaker 5: guys here after the draft. And you know, we've had
Speaker 5: guys that come in and really help us, you know,
Speaker 5: Bryce Hoffs and Xavier Gibson and Jason brown Wied. So
Speaker 5: when you have a guy that's an undrafted free agent
Speaker 5: that makes your team, it's it's it's always a special thing.
Speaker 4: Awesome, Joe, appreciate the time.
Speaker 5: Thank you.