1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: Hey, Jets fans, the time is finally upon us. It 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: is draft week throughout the National Football League and here 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: at One Jets Drive to preview what's ahead. We had 4 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:21,240 Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to NFL Networks draft guru Daniel Jeremiah. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: Nobody knows the draft as well as DJ. And then 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: also Joe Douglas, the Jets football architect who will make 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: the Jets selections next weekend talk to the media here 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: at One Jets Drive and Caroline Hunter shot talk to him. 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: So we're gonna right now on the pod this week 10 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: talk to DJ, get his thoughts on the top prospects, 11 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 1: and then Caroline is gonna go take a deep dive 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: with Joe Douglas on the Jets football architects pre draft 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: process in the final days the weight it's almost over, DJ, 14 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: let's start your analysis right now with quarter back out 15 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: of Appellationian State, Daniel Jeremiah, give me the scoutary report 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: that dude coming out. 17 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna go with fin frame, durability concerns. There's 18 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,479 Speaker 2: been some injury history there. Decent athlete, you can run 19 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: around a little bit. Although he's not gonna hold up 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: if he if he plays that recklessly. Arm strength well 21 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: below average. Uh, there's there's definitely Uh time, tends to 22 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: be a little aggressive, doesn't have the arm to back 23 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: that up, gets himself in some trouble that way. But 24 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: a good kid, you gonna work hard, give you everything 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,119 Speaker 2: he's got. That's that's it. 26 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: I love it. So let's fast forward a couple of 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: years to Daniel Jeremiah working in Baltimore with a young 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas. What was j D like during that time? 29 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Joe's I don't know that he's changed much. 30 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: You know, he's he's always kind of been the same guy, 31 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: very comfortable in his own skin, well liked by everybody, 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: worked really really hard for h you know, I go 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: back to just the days where we play basketball together. 34 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: So he's uh, very you know, very competitive, but not 35 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 2: gonna say a lot. I'm gonna just play real physical 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: and tough. But yeah, no, I don't know that you'll 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: find anybody have a bad word to say about Joe. 38 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 3: It's it's easy. 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: He's an easy guy to like and an easy guy 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: to root for. 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Do you guys keep him at the low blocks? I 42 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: mean he's only six foot four, but he's got that 43 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: wide body. 44 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an offensive rebounder and then he's not gonna 45 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 2: take a lot of shots. But you know, if you 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: you know, if you can get him the ball down low, 47 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 2: he's you know, he can back you up, thro thro 48 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: his backside at you, and flip one in every now 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: and then. But he's he's more of a he's he's 50 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: more of a defensive rebounding guy on the on the court. 51 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So speaking of rebounding, let's get to the 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: meat and potatoes of it for the Jets at number 53 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: ten overall, what do you think about the landscape he 54 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: is facing. 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: I'm fascinated by it. I think there's a couple of 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: different avenues you could look at there. You know, I 57 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: did what I called my my chaos mock draft the 58 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: last time we did it out of semi boredom. 59 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: You cause a lot of headlines with that one I did. 60 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: I had some fun with that one, but I just thought, 61 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: you know, if the Chargers want to move out, the 62 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: Jets are all in, let's try and make a trade 63 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: here where they can get up and get Marvin Harrison Junior. 64 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: I don't think they'll be that bold in this draft. 65 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: With the with the limited picks that they have, I 66 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: think if you're thinking of, you know, is there a 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: chance that Jets move up at all? I think it 68 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 2: would be a maybe a little baby move just to 69 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: get ahead of the Chicago Bears. If if somehow at 70 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: Douneesay was there at that point in time, I think 71 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: he would make a lot of sense from that standpoint. 72 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: But outside of that, if they stay where they are, 73 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: I think you've got a decision coming down to you know, 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: Brock Bauers a tight end versus the you know, the 75 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: top available offensive tackles, So that to me would kind 76 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: of frame you know, what direction they want to go 77 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: and and what they feel their need? 78 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: Is there? 79 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: How unique of a draft is this at the top, 80 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: because I your top fifty overall prospects, you have three 81 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: receivers going two, three, four, and then they afore mentioned 82 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: Bauers seven. 83 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've got them, you know, rated so highly, 84 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 2: and I don't think there's a lot of separation between 85 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: those three wideouts. So we've got three of the top 86 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 2: four players in the draft are wide receivers. I don't 87 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 2: know that I've ever had that before, and they're all 88 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: deserving of being up there, and then it's a you know, 89 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 2: there's a drop off after those three guys, but then 90 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 2: another wave of wide receivers and it's a good class there. 91 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: I don't know that I remember as offensive heavy top 92 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 2: of the draft as we have. I mean literally, you 93 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 2: can go through the top ten and just use three 94 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: positions and go, Okay, we're just gonna shop for quarterbacks, tackles, 95 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: and receivers and we can fill out the entire top 96 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 2: ten of the draft and you wouldn't be really a 97 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 2: reach on anybody. 98 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: Most likely scenario for the Jets though, you think Marvin 99 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: Harrison and Malik Neighbors gone by the time we get 100 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: to seven eight ish, because you've mentioned the possibility of 101 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: a if you are going to move up, maybe roma 102 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: Doonsday is still on the board and brock Bauers could 103 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: still be there a ton right. 104 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I would give Jets fans hope from this standpoint. 105 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 2: I remember, you know, the big Draft, the Sauce Gardner Draft, 106 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: and thinking, Okay, you've got Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner, 107 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 2: like that's a tough That's a tough one for me. 108 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: I think that was like my third and fourth ranked 109 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: players or something like that. 110 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: And then I. 111 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: Thought, there's no way Garrett Wilson gets to them at 112 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: that point in time, after after Sauce, and I'm like, 113 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: holy crap, like that all just kind of it all 114 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: just worked out. It just all magically worked out. So 115 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: I'm sitting there going, there's no way Rome gets there. 116 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 2: He's the perfect fit. Like, if you ask me who 117 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: is the perfect player to fit in with this group 118 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 2: that they have, it would be him because Mike Williams 119 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: can Now you don't have to rush him back when 120 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: he gets back. You have Garrett and Rome can play 121 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: inside if you want him to. So you get some 122 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: interchangeable parts there, and now you've got some real depth 123 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: at that position, which you didn't have last year. So that, 124 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: to me is the home run pick. And I didn't 125 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: I don't see that that could happen. But I also 126 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: didn't envision, you know, that that draft went the way 127 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: that it did. I didn't envision Brice Hall was going 128 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: to be there in the second round. I didn't envision, 129 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: you know, that you'd get the best pass thresher in 130 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: the draft down there in the twenties. It just that 131 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: one fell for him. So I'm not going to rule 132 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: out the chance that maybe this is the second version 133 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: of that and somehow Dounsday's there at ten. 134 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: If Rome's the home run pick, I'm going to put 135 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: you on the spot. These love baseball. We know the 136 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: Padres are your team. Give me the triple, the double, 137 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: and the single for the Jets, because one thing that's 138 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: caught my year the way you've been talking about the 139 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: tackles is you said you wake up every day feeling 140 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: a little bit differently about each of the top five tackles. 141 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and not that I fall out of love with 142 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 2: any of them, just I appreciate the strengths of different 143 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: guys in what they do. Like a great example, if 144 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 2: you told me that they got you know, either Bowers 145 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: as the tight end, or you said they got Fatanu 146 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: from Washington or they got Fuaga from Oregon State, I 147 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 2: would be equally excited with any of those three picks. 148 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 2: And they all are distinctly different guys with different strengths 149 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: to me, like Fatanu with his ability to play basically 150 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: any of the five positions. We all know the injury 151 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: history the Jets have had on this offensive line. We 152 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: know that they've added two thirty three year old tackles. 153 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 2: Having a guy that can that can move around wherever 154 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: you need him to combined with vera Tucker who can 155 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: move around wherever you need him to play, that provides 156 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: you a tremendous, tremendous asset there. And then you talk 157 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: about Fuaga. You know you can play you know, right tackle, 158 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 2: can play guard. There's some there's some versatility there as well. 159 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: I don't think he's quite as versatile as Fatano, but again, 160 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 2: somebody who you know, he brings something specific to the table. 161 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: So I think the Jets are in a great spot 162 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 2: with what they need and the directions that they can go, 163 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: you know, whether it's receiver, tight end, offensive line. I 164 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: think they're in a great position to really help their 165 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: offense here. 166 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: You've spoken about eleven, twelve, thirteen, that each of those 167 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: teams could be interested in quarterbacks. Any possibility there not 168 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: for that slight move up, but a slight move back 169 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: for the Jets. 170 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be all for it. You know that, 171 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: you know, get some extra picks here, slide back a 172 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: few spots. It is a you know, you have to 173 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: be comfortable with several of these tackles, which I you 174 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: know I could talk myself into it, so yeah, I don't. 175 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 3: I don't. 176 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 2: I you're trying to convince the you know, the Raiders 177 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: or the Broncos to get ahead of the Minnesota Vikings. 178 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: You know, if you're the Jets and you're a Jets fan, 179 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: you're hoping that you don't see the trade up for 180 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 2: the you know, for the quarterback too early there, because 181 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: that could you could have some value to be able 182 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: to move back on the other side of that coin. 183 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: If people moving up for quarterbacks, maybe that's pushing down 184 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 2: you know, the dunesday scenario that falls into your lap. 185 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: So you can look at this each each way. Here, 186 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 2: I just know whether they whether they stay where they are, 187 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: maybe slightly move up a little bit for one player, 188 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: or slightly move back. I think it's their position really 189 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 2: really well for what they need to get accomplished. 190 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: How much do you like the depth in this wide 191 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: receiver class? Because if the Jets don't go wide out 192 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: round one, Yeah, what options could be there on the 193 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: board in three that would make a lot of sense 194 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: for this team. 195 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, everybody's gonna have these guys in different order. 196 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: For me, I'm a Malachi Corley fan. I like him 197 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 2: a lot from Western Kentucky's great after the catch, just 198 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: so physical and so tough. I think that's probably the 199 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 2: sweet spot of where he goes. Roman Wilson's another one 200 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: out of Michigan who's got some real juice, some real 201 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: speed and can kind of play in there in the slot. 202 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 2: So those would be a couple guys who would be 203 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: intriguing to me. I think at the beginning of process 204 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: you has said Ricky Piersall would be a great third 205 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: round pick. I think he's run his way out of that. 206 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: He's run his way into the second round, so I 207 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: think he'll be long gone at that point in time. 208 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: Developmental quarterback if the Jets go in that direction on 209 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: Day three or some names that you. 210 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, Rattler's the one I would say would be 211 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: the top one out of South Carolina. You know, there's 212 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 2: obviously a lot of ability. There is big time recruit 213 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 2: going into Oklahoma. You got better at South Carolina last 214 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 2: couple of years. All the stuff you hear there has 215 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: been positive in terms of the leadership, character, maturity. 216 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: All that. 217 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: So that would be the first one, and then I 218 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: would say Leary would be the next one out of Kentucky, 219 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: former NC state quarterback. I think there's something to work 220 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: with there. But those would be the two guys. Pratt 221 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: is the one that gets mentioned as, you know, as 222 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 2: kind of someone that's intriguing. So that would be the 223 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: order that I would have him. I would have it 224 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: Spencer Rattler, I would have it Leary, then I'd have 225 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 2: it Pratt DJ. 226 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: Where's the best stup going to be found there on 227 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: day three? 228 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: In terms of value, Yeah, I think corners, you know, 229 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: I think there's you know, corners. Uh, look, if you 230 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: just go in the in the seventh round and you 231 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: haven't watched any of these players and just went up 232 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: to the board and grabbed every six foot corner that 233 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 2: ran low four four, just grab them and be like, okay, 234 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: well just pick we're gonna get one of these guys. 235 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: And just they're lottery tickets, you know, just just take 236 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 2: those lottery tickets and and and every now and then 237 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 2: you're gonna hit on one worst case scenario, you've got 238 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 2: a practice squad kid you can work with and develop. 239 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: But to me, at that point in the draft, you're 240 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: just gambling on traits. 241 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Speaking of trades, how about the running back position. The 242 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: Jets drafted is Yobana Khana last year. They have one 243 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: of the best backs in the National Football League in 244 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Preset Hall. But if they're going to add to the 245 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: stable there on day three, you got a pair of 246 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: fourth round selections obviously, Yeah, yeah. 247 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 2: I can give you a couple. 248 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: To me. 249 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: I think there's like, if you're looking for complimentary pieces, 250 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: there's there's a couple of different ways you can go here. 251 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 2: I really like Ray Davis is kind of a you know, 252 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 2: as a physical back. He's five a's two hundred and 253 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 2: eleven pounds, but he's run really really hard. Out of Kentucky. 254 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 2: He would be kind of in that vein, in that mode. 255 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 2: I like Isaac Garrindo from Louisville. He ran his butt off. 256 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: He ran the low four threes. I don't think he's 257 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 2: the most elusive guy in the world, but he's got 258 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: some size and some real speed, you know, to break 259 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 2: away and do things there. My late one that I 260 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 2: just watched the other day who I really liked was 261 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 2: Blake Watson from Memphis. I mean he's he's five nine 262 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 2: and a half, two hundred pounds. He ran four to 263 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 2: four flat. He was an old dominion transfer who has 264 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: got tons of production at Memphis, running the ball, catching 265 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 2: the ball, he's got explosives, he worked out well, didn't 266 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: get invited to comb I have no idea why, but 267 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: to me, that's Memphis has been a running back factory 268 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 2: and this guy's got excellent production. So that, to me 269 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 2: is one that I had circled there on Day three. 270 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: And you mentioned at the beginning of your conference call 271 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: with the national media media that bottom line when you're 272 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: looking at headlines for this draft offense, offense, offense. So 273 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: you think that, hey, when we're done in Detroit April 274 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: twenty seventh, and you're an NFL network, you're talking about 275 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: that theme being the prevailing one coming out of the 276 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: Motor City. 277 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 2: I think so it is. It's a league with a 278 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 2: lot of young quarterbacks right now, and it's a league 279 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 2: that's going to welcome in a handful more in this draft, 280 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: and I think you're going to see this draft as 281 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 2: one to serve those young quarterbacks, and you know it's 282 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: something that's a priority for these teams, and it just 283 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 2: happens to be what the draft class has given us. 284 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,119 Speaker 1: Let's end here. You've been calling the games of the Chargers, 285 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: Mike Williams, What do the Jets have in this new 286 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: receiver and how excited are you to see him get 287 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 1: paired up with the future Hall of Famer here in 288 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. 289 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. I'll full honesty, and six years of 290 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: doing the Chargers, there's not a player that I've been 291 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: around that I enjoyed more than Mike Williams. I could 292 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: put him right up there is my favorite. 293 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: He is. 294 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 2: He is the best dude who everybody in the building 295 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 2: is gonna know and love, who's never had a bad day. 296 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: So you start first of all with the person. He's 297 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 2: an energy giver. Everybody's gonna love being around him. As 298 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: a player, he found ways and the big games the 299 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: Chargers have been in the last six years and big wins. 300 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: He had a major part of it. He loves the 301 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: big stage, he loves big moments. He's as good as 302 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: fifty to fifty ball catch guy as I've ever ever 303 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: been around. He's outstanding there and has kind of a 304 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: he has a little flair for the dramatics. So I 305 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: think with the Jets with Aaron Rodgers, with a lot 306 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: on the line, New York, the attention, big games primetime. 307 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 2: I think this is kind of made for Mike Williams. 308 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: Jill welcome into the studio. But first and foremost, there's 309 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: a lot going on this week. Aaron Rodgers and the 310 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: guys are back for the offseason program and draft is 311 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 4: next week. What's the most exciting time for you about 312 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 4: this period of time? 313 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think a rams up once the 314 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 5: players get back, you know, and you see the small faces, 315 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 5: you see the guys dapping each other up and having 316 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: fun on the field, and you know they're just the 317 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 5: energy changes, you know, and and everything ramps up, and 318 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 5: you know it's draft time shortly after that. So but 319 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 5: we've had some great meetings leading up to this week 320 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 5: and a lot of hard work by our coaches, our scouts, analytics, 321 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 5: football add and everybody operations. And it's really god iss 322 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 5: to this point where we're ready to ready to attack 323 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 5: this draft next week. 324 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: What is this pre draft process like for you and 325 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 4: your team? 326 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: It's it's it's hectic, it's busy. 327 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 4: You know. 328 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 5: We we wrapped up our we're allowed to bring thirty 329 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: pre draft visits in players to visit, and we want 330 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 5: to make that a comprehensive visit. So these players can 331 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 5: can touch every department in our building and for every 332 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 5: department to have an opinion on them, so that in 333 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 5: and of. 334 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: Itself, it's it's it's a cool problem. 335 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 5: And you get to know these guys, spend a little 336 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 5: time with them, and along with the meetings that you 337 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 5: have with the coaching staff, and then we get into 338 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 5: our strategy meetings and we start going over every single 339 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 5: scenario leading up to the draft. So it's busy, but 340 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 5: it's fun. A lot of good, good discussions and getting 341 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 5: to know the players and. 342 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 3: Connect with them. 343 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 4: Now, you started your career as a scout, So what 344 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 4: is this whole process like for the scouts and how 345 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 4: much work do they have to do going into this? 346 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: So the process like this is like this is their 347 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 3: super Bowl. You know this is this is a. 348 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 5: Scout super bowl because you've been you've been working for 349 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 5: this moment ever since May of twenty twenty three. You've 350 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 5: been You've flipped the page on last year's draft and 351 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 5: you start working on this year's draft, and it's just 352 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 5: it's such a it's all it's a consuming thing. You're 353 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 5: crisscrossing the country. You know, you're gone one hundred and 354 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 5: eighty days out of the year, and you are taught 355 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 5: so many different Every day is different. You're talking to 356 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 5: different coaches every day, You're seeing how different programs will 357 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 5: run every day, and you're getting such quality information. And 358 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 5: then you have to have conviction on the guys that 359 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 5: you really love and the guys you feel are going 360 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 5: to come in here and stand for the right things 361 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 5: and help the Jets win a Super Bowl. And so 362 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 5: it is. It's a really special, special day, special weekend 363 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 5: for the scouts. 364 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 4: Now, I know the roster is never complete and you're 365 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: about to add to it with the draft, But what 366 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: do you think about your roster at this point in time. 367 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 5: Well, I think there's a lot of depth, and I 368 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 5: think we have dynamic playmakers on both sides of the ball. 369 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 5: So and now it's just about coming together as a 370 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 5: team as a team and doing our thing. But I 371 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 5: feel like we're in a good position to have great 372 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 5: flexibility as we go through the weekend with the draft. 373 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 4: How did free agency impact how you're approaching the draft 374 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 4: and your draft strategy. 375 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 5: Well, free agency definitely impact it because what you don't 376 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 5: want is you don't want a ton of glaring holes 377 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 5: on your roster leading into the draft, so teams can 378 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 5: lock in on you needing a specific position and training 379 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 5: in front of you to try to get someone that 380 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 5: they might like that they think you're going to draft. 381 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 5: So I feel like we're going into this draft without 382 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,919 Speaker 5: any glaring holes or weaknesses on the roster that teams 383 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 5: might look to try to get in front of us. 384 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 4: For What do you like about the position of being 385 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 4: at number ten and then having seven total picks. 386 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're in a good position. 387 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: I feel like we're ready for anything. You know. 388 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 5: If a lot of quarterbacks go, you know, that's great. 389 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 5: If not a lot of quarterbacks grow, we're still going 390 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 5: to be just fine. And a lot of discussions that 391 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 5: we've had over the last couple of weeks where we 392 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 5: want to make Friday, Thursday, Friday Saturday just almost. 393 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 3: Surgical, you know, just we know what we're doing. 394 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 5: We've had all these discussions, We've talked about every single scenario. 395 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 5: Now we're letting the board follow us and we're just executing. 396 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 4: How do you prepare for all of those different scenarios? 397 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 4: What does that really look like for you and the team. 398 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, we get in a room and we hash out 399 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 5: every single scenario that can happen, and you know these 400 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 5: players are here, what are you doing? You got to 401 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 5: move up? Would you consider moving back? How far would 402 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 5: you be back? So we have so we have all 403 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 5: these discussions leading up and then you know, we kind 404 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 5: of create our game plan and we just we have 405 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 5: our list of guys and we just go down the 406 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 5: list and it's just just execute. 407 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 4: Now, you've put in so much work to get to 408 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 4: this point. What happens in the final few days leading 409 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: up to the draft? Is it pretty much nothing happens? 410 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 4: Or are you working up until that last second? 411 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 5: I think in terms of evaluations, pretty much the Hayes 412 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 5: and the barn you're just working the last second, talking 413 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 5: to talking to teams about possible trade scenarios. You know, 414 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 5: you're having conversations with agents. You know, you just there's conversations. 415 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 5: But in terms of the actual player evaluations, those are 416 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 5: pretty much gone. Now we're just talking about draft DA scenarios. 417 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: Now. What do you think about having the last pick 418 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 4: in the draft mister Irrelevant this year? 419 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 3: Yeah? I love it. 420 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 5: I've never I've never been part of a team that's 421 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 5: had mister Irrelevant, So I'm actually looking forward to it. 422 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 5: And obviously there's it's still it's gonna be a great 423 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 5: opportunity to at a player that we think can help 424 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 5: us long term. 425 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: So I'm excited about that. 426 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 4: And lastly, why is the undrafted free agent process so 427 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 4: important to you guys after the draft? 428 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 3: Oh? 429 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that that really is the cherry on top. 430 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 5: I mean, because that's where you really make your hay 431 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 5: is finding finding undrafted free agents that can make your team. 432 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's a that's a special thing. 433 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 5: And the last few years we've had our our our staff, 434 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 5: our college scouting staff, our pro scouting staff, and our 435 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 5: coaches have done a really good job of recruiting these 436 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: guys here after the draft. And you know, we've had 437 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 5: guys that come in and really help us, you know, 438 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 5: Bryce Hoffs and Xavier Gibson and Jason brown Wied. So 439 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 5: when you have a guy that's an undrafted free agent 440 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: that makes your team, it's it's it's always a special thing. 441 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 4: Awesome, Joe, appreciate the time. 442 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 5: Thank you.