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Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's your friend Kate Max and welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Post Run High. You know those mornings where you

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Speaker 1: wake up and the weather is just not it, It's cloudy,

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Speaker 1: you're tired, you don't feel like moving, but you do anyway,

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Speaker 1: and somehow.

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Speaker 2: Your whole day shifts.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's kind of how Today's guest lives his life.

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Speaker 1: Al Roker has been showing up for America's mornings for

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Speaker 1: over forty five years. He's the man behind the forecast,

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Speaker 1: the laughter, and the energy that's kicked off our days

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Speaker 1: on the Today Show for so many years.

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Speaker 2: I literally grew up watching him before school.

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Speaker 1: My mom always had the Today Show on, So getting

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Speaker 1: the chance to sit down with him really felt like

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Speaker 1: a full circle moment and a dream come true for me.

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Speaker 1: Al is not just a TV icon, He's someone who's

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Speaker 1: redefined consistency, positivity and showing up through every season. It

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Speaker 1: was such an honor to talk to him about health, longevity,

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Speaker 1: and what keeps him moving rain or shine. So this

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Speaker 1: is Al Roker on Post Run High.

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Speaker 2: Al Roker, Welcome to Post Run High.

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Speaker 3: Well, nice to see you, Kate.

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Speaker 2: It is so nice to see you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is like meeting an icon that I

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Speaker 1: grew up watching every single morning.

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Speaker 3: Well, of course I'm an icon because I went to

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Speaker 3: college the same college your mom was.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you did, Karen Mackie. That's it's as suni Oswego

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Speaker 2: Oswego legends. And it was funny.

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Speaker 1: I was watching an interview you did a few years

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Speaker 1: ago wearing this Oswego T shirt and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I know that exact T shirt because my mom is

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Speaker 1: always repping her gear.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's funny because the running gag with my

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Speaker 3: kids is because I mean, I've probably got fifty variations

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Speaker 3: of the Swego T shirt and I'll wear and my

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Speaker 3: middle girl Leela will go, hey, dad, where'd you go

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Speaker 3: to school? Well it's not clear.

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 1: Though, after seeing you, it was funny because I was

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Speaker 1: the interview that I watched was from maybe like four

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Speaker 1: years ago, and you were wearing the T shirt, and

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Speaker 1: I said to myself, I was like, I should wear

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Speaker 1: more Foredom gear because it's cool to be proud of

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Speaker 1: the school that you came from. And you know, colleges

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Speaker 3: That's my identity. I'm on a Squego State grad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go all right, Well we're going to get

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Speaker 1: to your time weego, But first I want to start

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Speaker 1: out by saying, we just went for a little walk

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Speaker 1: through Brooklyn.

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Speaker 2: Al was getting cheered on by all the guys outside.

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Speaker 1: It was really refreshing to see you have been so

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Speaker 1: open for so many years about different like health things

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Speaker 1: You've gone through surgeries that you very publicly have talked about.

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Speaker 1: So what does fitness now look like in your life?

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Speaker 3: I think fitness it's morphed and part of it's due

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Speaker 3: I mean, she's in great shape. And I was one

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Speaker 3: something's better than nothing, And so I've I've kind of

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Speaker 3: Like you're in the subway, you got to walk to

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Speaker 3: walk again. So I try to fit in more things

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Speaker 3: But I do find that even those days I don't

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Speaker 3: I got more than ten thousand steps. Not that again.

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Speaker 3: I don't know who did that. I don't know who

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Speaker 2: Yep, it's true. I mean, the thing is we said

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Speaker 1: But truly, living in New York City, you naturally are

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Speaker 1: there's like so many times that you're getting your steps in.

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Speaker 1: It's like a mental shift. I used to be the

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Speaker 3: And I feel that we tend not to give ourselves

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Speaker 3: one and only time I ran, well ran the marathon.

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Speaker 3: Uh it was. It took me more in six hours,

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Speaker 3: but I did it. I didn't break any land speed records.

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Speaker 3: In fact, Leila, my, my, she's the one that comes

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Speaker 3: up with all the jokes. She said, Hey, daddy, what

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Speaker 3: don't know, sweetye what wee? You know, so it wasn't

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Speaker 3: I've done a few half marathons, but you know, again,

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Speaker 3: I fast walk them. I'm not running. I don't. It's

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Speaker 1: Well, just to do the New York City Marathon is iconic.

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Speaker 1: When you were running it, did you have so many

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Speaker 3: All I did. But what was fascinating? You know that

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Speaker 3: get This guy runs by me juggling. I thought, oh,

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Speaker 3: And this is the thing I love about walking is

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Speaker 3: I love about walking is that you are more connected

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true, it's true. It's so funny.

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Speaker 1: Like I grew up well, I've been in New York

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Speaker 1: and I would run every single day in Central Park

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Speaker 1: I love running there, but to really slow it down

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Speaker 3: I mean, when you think about it, you guys runners, yeah,

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Speaker 3: to see changes in the environment around you and the

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Speaker 3: mean I love just watching people walking slash running. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's fantasm. I really do love love the walk.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's talk about your morning routine.

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Speaker 1: Because what I am so impressed by with morning show

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Speaker 1: that said that your typical routine is well and I

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Speaker 1: guess now it's changed post COVID, but it was for

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Speaker 1: so many years getting up at three forty five four

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Speaker 3: have to get into NBC News, you know, a thirty

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Speaker 3: get up again around three forty five, four o'clock, take

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Speaker 3: There are no emails to answer, the kids aren't up yet,

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Speaker 3: you don't have to walk the dog yet. Get take

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think it's really important. It's amazing

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's talk about this.

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Speaker 1: So you grew up in Queen's and a little bit

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Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. We learned on the we learned on our walk.

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Speaker 1: What was your childhood like growing up in Queens and

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Speaker 1: a little bit of Brooklyn growing up in New York

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Speaker 2: Al for it.

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Speaker 3: I think people have a misconception about growing up in

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Speaker 3: had a public library. In fact, a good friend of

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Speaker 3: Queensboro Public Library system where we used to go, I

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Speaker 3: mean the very school library. We used to stop and

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Speaker 1: And when al first walked into our studio, the first

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Speaker 3: From Mad Magazine, Don Mark. Mad Magazine was my generations

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Speaker 2: And I think it's like an MTV comic, right yep.

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Speaker 3: I love love comics. I wanted to be a cartoonist.

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Speaker 1: It's wild to think about the different paths that you

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Speaker 1: And then when you were in high school, what caused

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Speaker 3: went sight unseen. I mean, you know, it's funny my

436
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: kids with each one of them. I think we did

437
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 3: like the old college tour thing, like ten twelve schools.

438
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 3: I applied to three schools, didn't go to them to visit,

439
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: just applied, and soon he met my stringent requirements, they

440
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 3: accepted me. And that's where I ended up.

441
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: Right, and you immediately started out in the communications department in.

442
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Speaker 3: Fact, and I went to the radio station that first

443
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Speaker 3: day during a freshman orientation, and it was my first

444
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 3: introduction to the magic of radio in a sense, and

445
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: that you hear somebody's voice and you create a mental

446
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: image of them. It's not white like podcasting and that

447
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 3: a lot of times there's video with podcasts or pictures.

448
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 3: With radio, it was rare that you saw the voice

449
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: that you heard coming out of the speaker. And so

450
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 3: I heard this guy Lee Chase was on the radio

451
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 3: in my college radio station, and I said, oh, I

452
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: think he's the program director. I'm gonna run down there.

453
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 3: And he had this deep voice. I'm picturing this blonde,

454
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 3: six foot three guy, you know, chisel Chin, And I

455
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 3: wait till the light goes off and I walk into

456
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 3: the studio and there's this smallish guy with a bad

457
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 3: mullet and actn and just in a concave chest. And

458
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Speaker 3: I said, excuse me, could you tell me where Lee

459
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 3: Chase is? I'm Lee Chase. How is that possible? How

460
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 3: could that deep voice come out of that scorwny little body.

461
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 3: I did not say that to him, but yeah, it

462
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: was like my introduction to the magic of radio and

463
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: voice and creating imagery with your voice.

464
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: So at what point did you realize, Wow, I'm actually

465
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: also good on camera.

466
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 3: I didn't. In fact, my department chairman, Lou O'Donnell told

467
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: me after my first television performance class that I had

468
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 3: the perfect face for radio. But he's but he's the

469
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 3: one who put me up for the job a year later.

470
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,120
Speaker 3: But you know, again, growing up back in the day,

471
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: and for those who have seen what was the movie Anchorman,

472
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,919
Speaker 3: you know that was a thing. I mean, I was

473
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 3: working in the seventies and the anchor people were all

474
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 3: good looking and had the deep voices, and sports guys

475
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 3: were a little goofyer, and the weather people were just

476
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 3: completely gonzo. And so that was my entry. I think

477
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: that's the only way back in the seventies I could

478
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: have gotten a job on TV or in TV news

479
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: was because I was a weather person.

480
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Speaker 1: So when you became a weather person, and there's a

481
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Speaker 1: lot you have to learn, right, it's because it's not

482
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: just reading off of a teleprompter or you can tell

483
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: me if it is. But when you want to become

484
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: a weather person, are there there's other classes you have

485
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: to take outside of communications, right, Like that's a little science.

486
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 3: Oh not a little it is. It is science.

487
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: It's science.

488
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: And I do not call myself a meteorologist, do not

489
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: have a meteorology degree. I call myself a weather person,

490
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: weather presenter, whatever you want, but it is it is science.

491
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: And so but over the years, you know, I've kind

492
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,919
Speaker 3: of done my own learning, my own research. I have

493
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: an American Meteorological Society Seal of approval. You know, I've

494
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 3: I've I've done the work. But again we've got on camera.

495
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: We've got off camera meteorologists, real meteorologists who have the science,

496
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 3: who are scientists who helped me with all everything I do.

497
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: Right, And so your college campus station was WTOP TV.

498
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 2: Right, Well, here's the Okay, we.

499
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: When I was at Sunniesquego, it wasn't even called communications.

500
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 3: It was called radio and TV because that's all there was.

501
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,199
Speaker 3: And we didn't even have a TV station. There was

502
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 3: We had WOCR radio, which was an AM station, and

503
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 3: there was WRVO, which was the PBS station or the

504
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: NPR station, I should say. And so WTP really didn't

505
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: get started till about I think fifteen years ago. And

506
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: it's a real facility. I mean, it's a thing. I

507
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 3: mean I've been there. I've taught some classes there, and

508
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: they've got a great state of the arts studio. They're

509
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: able to go live from all over campus. It's I

510
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 3: wish it had been around when I was it because

511
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: they've got a sports department, they've got a meteorology department,

512
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: they've got the news department. They they do real television.

513
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 3: It's impressive.

514
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Speaker 1: Okay, So when you were at Oswego, what did the

515
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: weather channel look like then? For you? Guys like, where

516
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: were students on campus tuning into it?

517
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 3: There was there was, there was nothing.

518
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so once you got on camera, what were you doing?

519
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't. We literally had a class on television

520
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 3: performance and that was it. We didn't do anything.

521
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: So you didn't get the real experience till you graduated.

522
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 3: No. Well, I got my job, my really, which was

523
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 3: so crazy that I got this job at the end

524
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 3: of my sophomore year to be on TV in Syracuse

525
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: on a real TV station. I mean it was and

526
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: I was making We had four shows on the weekend,

527
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: the six and eleven o'clock on Saturday and Sunday, and

528
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 3: I made fifteen dollars a newscast. I was making sixty

529
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: bucks a weekend after taxes, I think it was about

530
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 3: forty five bucks. But you know, but I was on TV.

531
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: I didn't realize how fortunate I was.

532
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: And how quickly do you feel like you started to

533
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: get in the groove of things on camera? Like how

534
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: quickly did you kind of become Because you're no for

535
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: being very charismatic on camera, right, You've been coined with

536
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: like making weather fun and relatable and telling stories through

537
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: So when did that kind of all come to be.

538
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: Here's the deal. And I'm not being This isn't false modesty,

539
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: but I do believe that you're I'm still learning. I

540
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 3: think if you watched me from five years ago, i'm

541
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,119
Speaker 3: different than than I am now. I think if you

542
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 3: really love what you do, you're evolving. I didn't get

543
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 3: halfway decent until I got to Cleveland, Ohio. I worked

544
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: first in Syracuse on weekends and Monday through Friday while

545
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: I was a senior in college. Then I got a

546
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 3: job in Washington, DC, and then it was Cleveland and

547
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: Cleveland we were doing. I was doing three shows a day,

548
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: five days a week at the five o'clock, the six o'clock,

549
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 3: and the eleven o'clock. And that's when I credit Cleveland

550
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 3: for when I kind of became sort of the alt

551
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: roker you knew. But I was also very fortunate. In Washington,

552
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: d C. I met the guy that changed my life,

553
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: probably personally and professionally. That was Willard Scott. Willard was

554
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: the weatherman at WRC in Washington, and I met him

555
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 3: there when I worked in Washington, UH and he's the

556
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 3: one that gave me my best advice, two bits of advice,

557
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: and they both are personal and professional. But from a

558
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 3: professional standpoint, always be yourself because that's all you've got.

559
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 3: You know, everybody else is taken. You know when they say, oh,

560
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: he's going to be the next she's going to be

561
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 3: the next Oprah, or he's going to be the next

562
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: Bob Costas, or he's going to be the next Brian

563
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 3: Gumbel or the next Greak. No, we already have one

564
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 3: of those.

565
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: You got to be you, and authenticity does show.

566
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: It's like, I think, the most beautiful thing about even

567
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: what I've seen all of the Today Show anchors over

568
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: the years have done, is like, you guys have to

569
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: show up every single day for you know, national news.

570
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: You know, people tune in to like clockwork right, they

571
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 1: have it on plane in their house. They want to

572
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: see you guys. You have to show up as yourself.

573
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of live television is you can't

574
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: really put too much of an act on when you're

575
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: doing it every single day every morning.

576
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: You try not to writ But and the other thing

577
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: was never give up your day job, you know, because listen,

578
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 3: I do like to think I've got this sparkling personality

579
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 3: and people want to read or consume anything I do,

580
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: But part of it is because I'm on the Today Show.

581
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 3: So you know, I've been able to write books, I've

582
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 3: been able to travel, I've been able to speak. But

583
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's probably because people

584
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: know me from the Today Show. And so that's been

585
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: a real blessing and I don't I don't take that

586
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 3: for granted. And so from that it allows me to

587
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: do all these different things. But it's great to have

588
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: a base, you know, to be able to know that

589
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: this is what I do and this is what I'm

590
00:30:59,320 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 3: known for.

591
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's very cool that through the Today Show,

592
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: using that as your anchor, you've been able to explore

593
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: all these different types of ventures, right like, you've written

594
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: a cookbook, you have your new animation show on PBS Kids,

595
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: a PBS.

596
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: Teen, PBS Kids, PBS Kids, You've.

597
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 1: Just Yeah, you've got a lot going on, and it's

598
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: it's fun to have creative outlets outside of your pay

599
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 1: job that align with what you do. When I think

600
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: about Syracuse and I think about up State New York,

601
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: I think about the snowstorms.

602
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: And actually when I went.

603
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: To visit Syracuse because I was visiting for their art,

604
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: their art program. I went, and I was the only

605
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: person on the college campus tour because it was blizzarding.

606
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: During that tour.

607
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: So I can't even imagine what it was like being

608
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: the weather man in that area, right, because you've you

609
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: get hit with all sorts of blizzards and you know,

610
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: rain storms everything.

611
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, being a a TV weather forecaster along

612
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: the Great Lakes is humbling because weather can literally turn

613
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: on a dime. I mean, it can't in a lot

614
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: of places. But as your mom would tell you who

615
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 3: went to Sunniasquego, there's this thing, little thing called lake

616
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: effect snow and depending on how the wind changes coming

617
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 3: across the lake, you could be standing in Oswego and

618
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 3: there'll be just light flurries, but to the east of

619
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 3: Osquego you could have two feet of snow. And so

620
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: it was very difficult to do the correct to make

621
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 3: the correct forecast. Now, what's been different about it is

622
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: over the last ten to fifteen years, the number of

623
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: blizzards and lake effect snowstorms have kind of decreased because

624
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: of climate change, you know, so it's been it's been

625
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: less of an issue, you know these I mean I

626
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 3: remember literally you would have school would be canceled. And

627
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: the benchmark forgetting for school being canceled at Sunni Asquigo

628
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: was if the snow plow drivers couldn't get to the plows,

629
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 3: there was no school. And that happened three or four

630
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 3: times when I was there, but it rarely happens.

631
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: Though.

632
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: When you finally got to New York for WNBC, what

633
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 1: was it like finally being back in New York City

634
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: after the years that you spent on the road.

635
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 3: It was great. It's great. It has been great being

636
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: in New York City because it was very difficult. Yeah,

637
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 3: my parents was, oh, my son's on TV, well where

638
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: in Syracuse? Well, but then I got I came home

639
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: to New York City and my mom and dad could

640
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 3: turn on Channel four and there I was. And so,

641
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 3: and once I got that job, I thought, I'm done.

642
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: This is great if I can just hold onto this.

643
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 3: So the idea of being on the Today Show was

644
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 3: just mind boggling. And so when they first asked me

645
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: to fill in for Willard, it was kind of like, yikes,

646
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: I don't know, okay, and you know, we did it

647
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,959
Speaker 3: and it worked out, but it wasn't My goal wasn't

648
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 3: to be on the Today Show. My goal was to

649
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: get a job in New York City so my parents

650
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Speaker 3: could watch, because at the end of the day, I

651
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: always do things to impress our parents.

652
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true.

653
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Speaker 1: And you know, there's if you grew up in New York,

654
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: there's nothing like working in this city. Right, It's like

655
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Speaker 1: kind of the place that you want to come back to.

656
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Speaker 1: But you know, getting these jobs with NBC, at these

657
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: networks here, it's very competitive and you have to put

658
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Speaker 1: your time in right on the road in places like

659
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Speaker 1: Syracuse and Cleveland, Like how important were those years in

660
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Speaker 1: Washington kind of getting those those reps in.

661
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Speaker 3: I think people are ill served by being overnight successes

662
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Speaker 3: because you learn so much between point A and point

663
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Speaker 3: B or c d e. If you jump from A

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Speaker 3: to P, let's say everything you've missed everything that comes,

665
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Speaker 3: including failure, you know, including not being successful, including struggling.

666
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: Those are all the things that build you, you know.

667
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 3: I feel badly in a sense because a lot the

668
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: young people today, you know, they're influencers, you know or whatever,

669
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Speaker 3: their influencers there on TikTok, this that, and and they

670
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 3: amass these huge followings. But when that, if and when

671
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: that goes away, what are you left with?

672
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's where you come back to the advice

673
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: of don't quit your day job.

674
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Speaker 3: Right exactly. And so I don't know. I feel in

675
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 3: a way, I feel badly for a lot of young

676
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: people coming up in communications because it's just a different world.

677
00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 3: Uh you know, who watches you? What Rman's success? What's

678
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 3: the metric today for success? I don't know.

679
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: I mean, the way media is changing is it's fascinating

680
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: and what they're they what we call new media, right

681
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 1: like with things like this podcasts, and it is very interesting.

682
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: But I think at the end of the day, it's

683
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Speaker 1: like what you guys have always done is told stories.

684
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Speaker 1: And whether it's new media and a new form like

685
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Speaker 1: our running interview show, at the end of the day,

686
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: we're trying to just tell stories.

687
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Speaker 2: So it's kind of like if you stick true to.

688
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Speaker 1: That and have a mission with what you're doing, maybe

689
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Speaker 1: you will find success with it, but also maybe not.

690
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean and.

691
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Speaker 3: Always yeah, listen, I always it's a plan B is

692
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Speaker 3: not a bad thing, you know, And there's no no

693
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Speaker 3: shame in.

694
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Speaker 1: That game, no, I mean, it's it's the truth. And

695
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Speaker 1: even when you think about overnight success like when you

696
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Speaker 1: first got to New York, it took like what thirteen

697
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Speaker 1: years before you got the official spot on the Today Show?

698
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, just about and and and look it was again.

699
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 3: I was very fortunate in that I was able to

700
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Speaker 3: dip my toe in filling in for Willard and build that.

701
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Speaker 3: As opposed to just getting thrown into the deep end.

702
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Speaker 3: I don't know that I would have been successful. I

703
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Speaker 3: was able to learn from somebody who was just very

704
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 3: giving and very terrific and do it at my own pace,

705
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 3: which is a lot of people don't realize how important

706
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Speaker 3: that is.

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Speaker 1: What did those thirteen years look like for you? Because

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Speaker 1: I was doing some research and I mentioned this before

709
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Speaker 1: we sat down and started filming, But Al was on

710
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Speaker 1: an episode of Seinfeldt, which I later found out that

711
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Speaker 1: Jerry went to sud Yest we Go for what like

712
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Speaker 1: a year, So that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: We had a little bit of a connection there.

714
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Speaker 1: But what were you thinking when you got asked to

715
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Speaker 1: be on Seinfeldt And how soon into that thirteen year

716
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Speaker 1: stint of you being in New York working here did

717
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Speaker 1: that happen?

718
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Speaker 3: I think it well, sein I think it was like

719
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Speaker 3: the mid nineties, okay, and it's very bizarre you're asking

720
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Speaker 3: about this timeline. I don't remember. It's all kind of

721
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Speaker 3: like compressed into it.

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Speaker 2: Because you very quickly became like a local celebrity. Right.

723
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Speaker 2: People loved your charisma, they loved waking up to you.

724
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Speaker 3: I guess you know, it's weird to say, yes, people love.

725
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Speaker 1: Me because I watched the Guys. I watched al On

726
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Speaker 1: Conan O'Brien. I think it was from a nineteen like

727
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Speaker 1: ninety four episode or something that you did with him,

728
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Speaker 1: and I was like, you were so funny. You took

729
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Speaker 1: a T shirt, you were throwing it into the crowd.

730
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Speaker 3: Here's the deal with Conan. I have the distinction of

731
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Speaker 3: being the one being on the show more than any

732
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Speaker 3: other guest. And why proximity. Our studios were literally right

733
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Speaker 3: across the hall from each other. We're in Studio six

734
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Speaker 3: B using the Studio six A, and sometimes guests would cancel,

735
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Speaker 3: whether it was because of weather or whatever, they couldn't

736
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Speaker 3: get in, and so they can you come over and

737
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Speaker 3: do something? And so you know, it actually started with

738
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Speaker 3: David Letterman, who was in that studio beforehand. And and

739
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: it's like real estate, location, location, location. I was in

740
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Speaker 3: the right place at the right time.

741
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Speaker 1: And would you say, like being on those types of shows,

742
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: did that build your persona even more?

743
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Speaker 2: Like? Was that beneficial?

744
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Speaker 3: I think I think it complemented it. I think it

745
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: it allowed me. It gave me a little more of

746
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Speaker 3: a canvas to do what I would do either on

747
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 3: News for New York here in New York City or

748
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Speaker 3: the Today Show, because you know, there are small chunks,

749
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Speaker 3: whereas this is a longer, longer format kind of interview.

750
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Speaker 3: So it just gave people more of a chance to

751
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Speaker 3: see me for better or for worse.

752
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you were so funny.

753
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Speaker 1: I mean I when I was watching some of the reruns,

754
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Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, Al could double as a comedian, Like,

755
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Speaker 1: that's how funny you were.

756
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Speaker 3: Well, see it's people have said that, and I preciate that.

757
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: But comedy is hard work. To be funny for thirty

758
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Speaker 3: minutes forty minutes an hour, whether you're a Dave Chappelle,

759
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Speaker 3: a Chris Rock, Kevin Hart, a Jim Gaffigan, a Nate Bargazzi,

760
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Speaker 3: that's work. I did a bit once where Jim Gaffigan

761
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: we switched places, and so I had to do a

762
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Speaker 3: stand up set. I only did ten minutes. That's the

763
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Speaker 3: hardest I've ever worked. I mean, I've always respected stand

764
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Speaker 3: up comics. I've always thought, you know, they're just brilliant.

765
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Speaker 3: But to make that happen for more than three minutes

766
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Speaker 3: is alchemy.

767
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Speaker 1: When you finally did become the guy on the Today

768
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Speaker 1: Show in nineteen ninety six, I love timestamping things.

769
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Speaker 2: I'm like good with numbers in that way, good with dates.

770
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Speaker 1: But when you finally did become the guy in nineteen

771
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Speaker 1: eighty six, do you remember getting that call that it

772
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Speaker 1: was going to be you and you had the opportunity

773
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Speaker 1: to be officially on the Today Show.

774
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Speaker 3: Yeah. My agent came to the office. He called me

775
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 3: and he says, I need to come see you. I said, okay,

776
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: all right, And my office was also the Weather Center,

777
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: so there was camera mikes. He goes, oh, we can't

778
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Speaker 3: where's the men's room. Okay, men's room. Go in the

779
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Speaker 3: men's room. He looks under the stalls and thinking we're

780
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Speaker 3: in a spy movie. What's going on here? He says, listen,

781
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Speaker 3: I just got a call. Willard has decided to some

782
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Speaker 3: I retire and they want you to be the Monday

783
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Speaker 3: through Friday Today's Show weather guy. Wow, And I almost said,

784
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Speaker 3: you're blanking me. But and if I had, it would

785
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: have been the right place. But that was it. I

786
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: still remember to this day, you know, the uh, you know,

787
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Speaker 3: getting that message from my agent in the men's room

788
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Speaker 3: on the sixth floor, seventh floor at WNBC.

789
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Speaker 1: Did you ever imagine that you would still be there

790
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: nearly three decades later?

791
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Speaker 3: It is mind boggling to me that all this time later,

792
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: I'm still here. My dad worked for the Transit Authority

793
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: in New York City Transit Authority for twenty five years.

794
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 3: It boggles my mind that I've worked for NBC longer

795
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: than my dad worked for the transit.

796
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Speaker 2: Were your parents so proud of you?

797
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Speaker 3: The great thing about my parents was that they were

798
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: equally as proud of all six of their kids of

799
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 3: whatever they did. And it's you know, you think, how

800
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 3: do they do that? And then you become a parent

801
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: and you realize you think love is a finite quantity,

802
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: and then you have your kids and you realize it's not.

803
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 3: It just expands.

804
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Speaker 2: I get that.

805
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: It's yeah, you're equally as proud of all of your

806
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: kids for their accomplishments.

807
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Speaker 2: It's so true.

808
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: Ricked alongside some incredible people like I mean the hosts,

809
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: the anchors, the people that you've been able to work alongside.

810
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: It's just been amazing. What would you say you have

811
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 1: found makes a great anchor and TV personality?

812
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Speaker 3: I think I think the talent that I've seen that

813
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: that that's a common thread amongst really good uh television hosts, interviewers,

814
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 3: or you'd like to call it. They're good listeners. You know,

815
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: you can have us and you should always be prepared

816
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: and have a set of questions. Uh. But I find

817
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: a lot of times the next question comes from that

818
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: what that person said. I I when I was younger

819
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: and just getting started. Gosh it, you have to have

820
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 3: those questions. Well, no, you do, because you're you're You've

821
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: got to be prepared, you really do. But I think

822
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Speaker 3: as you become more comfortable within yourself, you'll find that

823
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: they become less of a need. Again, you've got to

824
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 3: cover the basics. But as you get into it, I

825
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: think you'll hear people and especially if they become relaxed

826
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: with you, they start to let their guard down, they

827
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: start to talk a little bit more, they start to

828
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 3: reveal more of themselves, and that next question presents itself

829
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Speaker 3: I'm very loath to give advice. I don't like to

830
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 3: give advice because it's like, well aren't you mister Socrates?

831
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: You know now, I you know, I prefer to let

832
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Speaker 3: people come away with what they will. But just one

833
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 3: of the things that I just remember learning from my dad,

834
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Speaker 3: just by watching him, and my mom too. So I

835
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 3: think that's you know, there's that old saying, you know,

836
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: actions speak louder than words. Let people watch what you

837
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 3: do and they'll figure it out.

838
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Speaker 2: Thanksgiving Day Parade. We talked a little bit about this.

839
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Speaker 1: You became a staple of the Thanksgiving Day parade, You've

840
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: done it for so many years.

841
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 2: How did the Thanksgiving Day Parade come to be?

842
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I kind of it kind of came

843
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: with the job, you know, as when Willard stepped back,

844
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 3: they asked me to start doing it. And so the

845
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 3: routine is I start up on the upper West side

846
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 3: where it launches, and we get all the balloons up

847
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: and going, and then I jump in a car and

848
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 3: head down to Harold Square and join now Savannah and Joda,

849
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 3: and you know, it's three hours of America. Really, I

850
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 3: think it's the it's the three hours where I think

851
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 3: in a sense we probably are, truly the United States

852
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 3: of America. Doesn't matter who you are, where you live,

853
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 3: what your background is, what your religion is, what your

854
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: color is. You're watching the parade and you're doing it

855
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 3: at the same time as millions of other fellow Americans.

856
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: And that's it, and that's what I love about it.

857
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: There's no agenda. There's just there are great balloons. Of course,

858
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: there are the clowns, but and Broadway shows and great performances,

859
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: and then we go and eat turkey.

860
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: When you think about the Thanksgiving Day Parade and you

861
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 2: think about the floats and the balloons and the performances,

862
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: is there one performance that stands out to you as

863
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 2: like this is peak Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, the magic,

864
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Speaker 2: You know.

865
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Speaker 3: I don't know that there's any one. I think it's

866
00:46:55,719 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: just it's it's a feeling. The thing the Macy Thanksgiving

867
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 3: Day Parade is a feeling. It's an emotion, it's tradition.

868
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 3: We all remember what we were doing as kids watching

869
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: that parade. The smells of your house and your your

870
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: mom and or dead or grandma making dinner, getting things together.

871
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,959
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think there's I don't think there's

872
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 3: any other holiday where we all stop collectively and spend

873
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 3: time together.

874
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 2: Right.

875
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: And when you think of that experience and you think

876
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: of all the people in their homes with it, whether

877
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: it's on in the background of whatever they're doing, whatever

878
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: meal they're preparing, or you know, I distinctly have memories

879
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: of sitting on my living room couch with my grandparents

880
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: watching it. To think that you are narrating that experience

881
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: for millions of people, what is that like?

882
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't I don't really think about it as much

883
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 3: as yeah, I appreciate it. You know, when people come

884
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 3: up and they say, you know, you're you're part of

885
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 3: my Thanksgiving, that's you know, I get to do that.

886
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 3: I get to do the lighting of the Rockefellers down

887
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 3: a Christmas tree and the Rose Parade, three of the

888
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 3: best holidays there are, so uh, it's it really is

889
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 3: an honor to be literally in people's homes during these

890
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 3: these really three special times, you know, Christmas, New Year's.

891
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving, Right, And you know what, when I think about

892
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: Christmas Years and Thanksgiving and I think about some of

893
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: the times that you guys have done the parade and

894
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,320
Speaker 1: you know, done the lighting of the Christmas tree and

895
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 1: and just all of those events that happened like clockwork

896
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 1: every year. Some years that's snowing, some years it's very

897
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: it's freezing cold, some years it's windy. So like, is

898
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: there any do you have a memory of any like

899
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: chaos that has ensued behind the scenes that maybe we

900
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: we don't see, but is going on in the background.

901
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 3: We've we've endured, as you've mentioned, we've endured not I

902
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't say out and now it's snowstorm, but you know, snow. Uh,

903
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 3: it's been the most miserable weather is when it's raining

904
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: and like just barely above freezing. I think it was

905
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 3: two years ago, maybe three years ago, it was just

906
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 3: a torrential downpour and it was miserable. But then it

907
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: starts and you're just like, yeah, we're having a great time,

908
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: and then it ends and then you realize you're miserable again.

909
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 3: You're cold, and you're wet, and it's a mess. But

910
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 3: you know, I mean, and there have been a couple

911
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: of years where it's been kind of windy and they've

912
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 3: had to bring the balloons way down. But in my

913
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: I think twenty seven years doing it. Other than during

914
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 3: the pandemic. They've never not done it.

915
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: What does the al Roker Thanksgiving look like? After the parade?

916
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 3: Like?

917
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 2: What are you doing after the parade? Like clockwork? Every yere.

918
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 3: Up until about ten years ago, I had been I

919
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: would prep as much as I could beforehand, and my

920
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 3: wife Deborah would put stuff in on a schedule, and

921
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 3: then I'd get home, we'd finish. And about ten years ago,

922
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 3: a dear friend, Danielle Blude as so many fantastic restaurants.

923
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: We were in his restaurant a few weeks before Thanksgiving

924
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: and he said, what are you doing for Thanksgiving? I said, oh,

925
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 3: he says, come to the restaurant. Now, I've never gone

926
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 3: to a restaurant for Thanksgiving. It's like, oh, I gotta

927
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 3: have stuffing. I gotta and okay, we'll go. I was like,

928
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: where has this been all my life? It's the best,

929
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 3: It's the greatest. I haven't cooked Thanksgiving dinner in ten

930
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 3: twelve years.

931
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 2: I respect that.

932
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

933
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean especially after you were up early working

934
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: all morning. I mean, obviously it's so fun, but it

935
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: does take a lot of energy out of you.

936
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 3: To that and then so so that's what I have

937
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 3: most to be thanks for Danielle Ballut inviting us to dinner.

938
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 1: Well, outside of the Thanksgiving Day pride and the Christmas

939
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: tree lighting, you have been there documenting so many iconic

940
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: world events. So what would you say is one that

941
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: really sticks out to you as like a monumental memory

942
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: for you?

943
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: You know, from a weather standpoint, I think Superstorm Sandy

944
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 3: was kind of a turning point where people thought, Yeah,

945
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 3: before that, I think it was Katrina, which I didn't

946
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 3: cover because I was I was having back surgery when

947
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 3: that happened. But I think Superstorm Sandy was really kind

948
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 3: of the canary in the coal mine when it comes

949
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 3: to climate and people going what the heck? So that

950
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 3: was one of the most impactful moments for me.

951
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: What about Hurricane Wilma. There was a pretty crazy video

952
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: of you being held down by a cameraman. Can you

953
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: paint the picture of what was going on during that?

954
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: We were out We're in Naples, Florida. We're outside on

955
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 3: this balcony and it was really I mean one hundred

956
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 3: plus mile per hour winds and I was trying to

957
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 3: finish my live shot and one of the camera guys

958
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 3: extra camera guys, was holding onto my legs and it

959
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 3: was only a couple of weeks after Katrina and one

960
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 3: gust hit and I went down on top of it

961
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 3: like a ton of bricks. And I know my wife

962
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: was watching, and I'm thinking she is going to kill

963
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 3: me because I just had back surgery. I was okay,

964
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 3: I was fine, it was all good. Uh. But yeah,

965
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 3: that was that was pretty pretty impactful. And then from

966
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 3: a just a moment, you know, I just just being

967
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: out with people at the on our Today Show plaza,

968
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 3: you know, where you know, everybody talks about interactive TV

969
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 3: and all that, and what I find fascinating is that

970
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 3: it's something as simple as waving to the folks back home.

971
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: It's still a thing people still as much as you

972
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: can face time with people now. The idea that you

973
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 3: could wave and look, that goes back to the Today

974
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: Show in nineteen fifty two with Dave Garroway. You know,

975
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 3: we had a window on the world, and so you know,

976
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 3: we're not so different than we were seventy years ago,

977
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 3: seventy plus years ago.

978
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that interesting to think about it.

979
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: It's like, even though we talked about like how much

980
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: the media is changing, at the same time, it's really

981
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: not that different. It's all about connecting with people and

982
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: telling stories and then really connecting to the viewers at home.

983
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. That and I think that's the difference. Everybody's got

984
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 3: an app. They can check the weather, they can check

985
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: the news, they can do this, they can do that.

986
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, I think they

987
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 3: do want to connect with people. I think that's why

988
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 3: people love coming onto your podcast because they get a

989
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 3: chance to connect.

990
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,919
Speaker 1: Well, especially and I think with a podcast and what's

991
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: really interesting and even when with you, you know, on

992
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: the Today Show, You've gotten to interview so many incredible people.

993
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: We mentioned it before, but you interviewed the cartoonists for Peanuts.

994
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: You know, like that's one, just one example of many.

995
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: Okay, And that reminds me, you know, if something went

996
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 3: out of my head and you were asking about experiences,

997
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: I'll never forget. It was President Barack Obama's first inaugural

998
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 3: inaugural parade and we were, you know, on our sidelines

999
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 3: there on Pennsylvania Avenue and mister President, mister president, and

1000
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 3: you're hoping they never and and uh and he waved,

1001
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 3: and I said, how are you feeling today? And he

1002
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 3: said great, great, how's the weather great? Okay? And he

1003
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: keeps one. Then Joe Biden, Vice President Biden is walking,

1004
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: is mister Vice President, Miss VI, and he comes over

1005
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 3: and shakes my hand, and it just so happened that

1006
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 3: it was also Martin Luther King Junior's birthday. And I

1007
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: said on this on the air, I said, here, I

1008
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 3: am the first black president of the United States. Acknowledged me.

1009
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 3: The vice President of the United States came and shook

1010
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: my hand, and it all happened on Martin Martin Luther

1011
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 3: King Junior's birthday. I know my parents are up there

1012
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: looking down and they go, that's our boy. I still

1013
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 3: get goosebumps.

1014
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: When you're doing what you're doing, you're kind of like

1015
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: a mirror for the public right where that interaction obviously

1016
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: happened to you, but it also happened to the millions

1017
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: of Americans that were watching. And to see that sort

1018
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,720
Speaker 1: of positive interaction with a president and a vice president

1019
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: is really really special.

1020
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 3: And by the way, full circle, they were walking at

1021
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 3: the time, they weren't riding, they were walking, and then

1022
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 3: they finished up. They had a post.

1023
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 2: Run high the postwok guy come on. Okay.

1024
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: So outside of that interaction at the inaugural parade. Is

1025
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,360
Speaker 1: there an interaction that you have had with a celebrity

1026
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: or a guest that you've had on the show that

1027
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: always make you smile?

1028
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 3: You know, I I've been. It's weird. I have in

1029
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: some ways, unfortunately career amnesia, Like unfortunately we had recently

1030
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 3: Quincy Jones had passed away and one of my co hosts,

1031
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: Craig Melvin, said, did you ever interview I said, I

1032
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 3: never got interview. I met him, but I never interviewed.

1033
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 3: And there in the obituary, I'm sitting in his house

1034
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 3: interviewing him, and he goes, how did you forget that?

1035
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 3: I said, I don't know, you know, And so, uh,

1036
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,839
Speaker 3: it's been. It's been a really terrific career. And it's

1037
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 3: not that I don't appreciate interviewing Quincy Jones and any

1038
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 3: any number of people, but you know, each one is

1039
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 3: really special in their own right, you know, whether getting

1040
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: to talk to Dick van Dijk or James Earl Jones

1041
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 3: or Jane Goodall. Uh, you know, you go down the

1042
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 3: list and it's and each one. What was special about

1043
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 3: each one is that especially our our older celebrities or newsmakers.

1044
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 3: They always come to play, you know, they come it's

1045
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 3: this is what why they're here. And and what I

1046
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 3: find interesting is there's a new crop of younger folks,

1047
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 3: performers especially, come and do our city concert series and

1048
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: they have that kind of old school ethos of that

1049
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 3: they're here because people want to see them, and they're

1050
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 3: here to be part of something. And so I think

1051
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 3: that's there was a period of time where that was

1052
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 3: a little more difficult. You know, people had this kind

1053
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 3: of a lot of people were coming on the show

1054
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: that had this kind of well, I'm so don't you

1055
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 3: know who I am? You know, And I think the

1056
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 3: younger generation is hearkening back to that older generation. That's

1057
00:57:57,840 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 3: it's my job is what I'm here to do.

1058
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: Who are some of the artists that you've really seen

1059
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: that in recent.

1060
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 3: Most recently I saw it with the Role Model. Uh

1061
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: saw it with Carol g Uh, I mean plays bad Bunny,

1062
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,600
Speaker 3: you know. I mean these are all, you know, entertainers

1063
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: who could probably phone it in, but uh they are

1064
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: Olivia Dean, Olivia Dean, I can't just I am so

1065
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 3: in love with Olivia Dean.

1066
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: I am too.

1067
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 1: And her album is literally it's on repeat like clockwork

1068
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: for me, and she's.

1069
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 3: Very old school. It's this throwback almost she's this this

1070
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 3: old soul in this this younger body.

1071
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: She's the best example for me so far. I mean,

1072
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: I completely agree.

1073
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know Megan, Megan Trainer, Megan Trainor comes

1074
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 3: to play each and every time j Lo, whenever she performs.

1075
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's we've been very fortunate and that we've

1076
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: had really, really good people on our show.

1077
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm dying to do a workout with j Lo for

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Speaker 1: the running portion of this video and then sit down

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Speaker 1: with her for post run high. I think it'd be

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Speaker 1: iconic because I bet she would kick my butt in

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Speaker 1: a workout, oh.

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Speaker 3: My gosh, and do it with rhythm.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to shout out come some of your recent projects.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Weather Hunters and what

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Speaker 1: you guys are up to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we came up with the idea to give you

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Speaker 3: an idea how long this show has been in development.

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Speaker 3: I based it on my kids, and the baby boy

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Speaker 3: is five, the middle girl, Lily, who's kind of the

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Speaker 3: stem girl, is eight, and the older sister, Corky is eleven.

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Speaker 3: My kids were those ages when I first started developing this,

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Speaker 3: and Nick is now twenty three and Leela is going

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Speaker 3: to be twenty eight, so twenty seven, so you know,

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Speaker 3: it's been a long time in coming. But I love weather.

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Speaker 3: Even when I did local news, I would go in

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Speaker 3: to speak at schools and every teacher would say, kids

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Speaker 3: love weather, And it amazed me that there was no

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Speaker 3: kids show about weather. And so I've always thought I

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Speaker 3: wanted to do that. And I was able to combine

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Speaker 3: my love of animation, my love of my family, and

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Speaker 3: my love of weather and put it all together. And

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Speaker 3: and PBS Kids was the perfect partner because they are

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Speaker 3: so they are so focused on a the science, but

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Speaker 3: b making kids feel safe and to and and and

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Speaker 3: not to talk down to them, but to talk with them.

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Speaker 3: And so the shows and and it's it's quite, you know,

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Speaker 3: being somewhat humble. I think it's a beautiful show. It

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Speaker 3: looks beautiful. I get to voice Al Hunter, the weather guy. Uh.

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Speaker 3: And what I love about it is Al Hunter will

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Speaker 3: forever be forty years old this show. Holly Robinson Pete's

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Speaker 3: plays my wife. We've got three great kids playing my children.

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Speaker 3: It's it is literally a dream come true.

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Speaker 2: Did you have a lot of say in what the

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Speaker 2: design looked like to you in the Actually, I worked

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Speaker 2: very hard.

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Speaker 3: There was a company called Island of Misfits that did

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Speaker 3: the animation, and we worked very hard at coming up

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Speaker 3: with the right characters. And even the girls have their

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Speaker 3: natural hair. Their hair is almost a character unto itself,

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Speaker 3: and each kid is this personality. But I think what

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Speaker 3: I'm most pleased with is that it's this perfect blend

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Speaker 3: of science and love. It's a family that loves each

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Speaker 3: other that happens to love science, and so we teach

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Speaker 3: kids and I think the folks who watch with them

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Speaker 3: the awe and the wonder of the world around them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing like a good animation as somebody

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Speaker 1: that grew up loving every Pixar movie and every Disney

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Speaker 1: animation that came out. Truly, it's for all ages, yes,

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Speaker 1: and everybody, as you said, can learn something from it. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: outside of Weather Hunters, is there anything else that you

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Speaker 1: have coming up that you're excited about that we should

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Speaker 1: be on the lookout for.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, I can't think of anything. I mean, my oldest daughter, Courtney,

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Speaker 3: and I have a cookbook that's out. Al Roker's recipes

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Speaker 3: to live by, and she did all the work. In fact,

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Speaker 3: she was pregnant with my granddaughter while she was working

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Speaker 3: on the book. She did all the work. So she

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Speaker 3: birthed a baby and a.

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Speaker 2: Cookbook, which Guy's Cookbooks.

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Speaker 1: One of the first celebrities I had on the show

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Speaker 1: was Bobby Flay and he was working on his cookbook

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Speaker 1: at the time, or one of his many cookbooks. And

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Speaker 1: the work that goes into a cookbook, come on, the

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Speaker 1: struggle is real.

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Speaker 3: But the greatest gift I've gotten is from my daughter Courtney,

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Speaker 3: which is my granddaughter's scot And that's and just the

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Speaker 3: idea of taking her for walks now because she's mobile

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Speaker 3: is just And again the little two year old legs

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Speaker 3: only moved, but so fast except for when they want to.

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Speaker 3: Then when she moves, it's like I have to go

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Speaker 3: out on a full run to catch her. But it's

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Speaker 3: it's the best. To be able to see what she's

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Speaker 3: seeing through her eyes gives me that much more appreciation.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's end with one final piece of advice. If

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Speaker 1: you could tell your twenty year old self twenty two

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Speaker 1: year old self one piece of advice.

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Speaker 2: What would it be?

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Speaker 3: Walk more? Yeah, because you'll be in better shape, you'll

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Speaker 3: appreciate the world better, you'll think better, you'll feel better.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Al, This was awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Kate here.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening to today's episode

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Speaker 1: with Al Roker. This was seriously a dream come true

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Speaker 1: sit down interview for me and walk and talk for

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Speaker 1: me because of course we started out on the move

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Speaker 1: before sitting down for this chat. And if you guys

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Speaker 1: are loving Post Run High, it would mean the world

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Speaker 1: to me if you rated and reviewed this episode and

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Speaker 1: shared it with a friend. Your support helps us continue

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Speaker 1: bringing you inspiring conversations. I'll see you guys next week.

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Speaker 1: This is Post Run High.