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Speaker 1: Well, well, well it's Austin Reeves and Ants world.

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Speaker 2: We're all just living in it.

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Speaker 1: We have figured out who the next Laker is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: According to super purser Jabbari, We're back to continue to

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Speaker 1: discuss Team USA in the FOVA Tournament before breaking down

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Speaker 1: the Northwest Division with podcaster Greg Foster. On today's episode,

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Speaker 1: I'm Jack O'Brien.

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Speaker 3: And I'm producer Jabari and for Miles, and this is

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Speaker 3: Miles and Jack got sometimes got mad.

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Speaker 4: I think that I think we got that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, beauty, there we go. Davis be driving

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Speaker 2: Spitty Cory A three stuff Cory from Gotown again. Nat,

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Speaker 2: what you got, honesty? What's happening?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 5: Hi, thank you guys for having me.

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Speaker 3: I just want to say, just right off top, I'm

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Speaker 3: enjoying the FOBA Tournament tournament a lot, and I think

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Speaker 3: it's the like the one time, you know, like that

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Speaker 3: and the Olympics is when I can actually like be

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Speaker 3: a nationalist. Yeah, like you know, like every other time

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Speaker 3: it's like man, whatever, okay, sure, but like as soon

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Speaker 3: as like I hear that national anthem during like FOBA.

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Speaker 5: Or you know, the Olympics, yeah, I'm all in.

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Speaker 4: You know, get straight. You're saluting.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I did.

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Speaker 4: You got in the corner.

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Speaker 5: I got you. Yeah, I'm not mad at im. I'm

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Speaker 5: all in.

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Speaker 3: It's fun and I uh would do just about anything

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Speaker 3: to get ants on my team.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I know what it's like to be

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Speaker 1: a Lakers fan when watch it, when like watching FOBA,

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Speaker 1: because it's like there's such a superiority complex I get

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Speaker 1: when I'm like watching like somebody do something for another

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Speaker 1: team and I'm like, oh, okay, that was cute.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this is what it's like.

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Speaker 3: To win and have a story, franchise and like legacy

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Speaker 3: of winning. Yeah, yes, this is a this is a

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Speaker 3: nice change.

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Speaker 4: I gotta be honest with you guys. It's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty I was more talking about from like a

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Speaker 1: toxic uh condescension standpoint of just assuming everybody for every

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Speaker 1: other team would like to be playing secretly wishes they're

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Speaker 1: playing for my team. That's how I feel what I'm

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Speaker 1: watching international ball. I don't think it's necessarily true, but.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't help that Team USA was teasing US US

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Speaker 4: Lakers fans, US toxic you know nation uh, saying things

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Speaker 4: like this duo and putting up a picture of Ant

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Speaker 4: and Austin. I mean, if you don't want if you

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Speaker 4: don't want me to come to the party, don't send

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Speaker 4: me an invite.

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, that's the that's the white men can't

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Speaker 3: jump sequel we actually deserve.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, that's absolutely that's a lot of fun. They'd

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Speaker 1: be a good time together. I love that. That is

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Speaker 1: that is just them tempting you. That just putting a

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Speaker 1: putting them in a pick sure together and referring to

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Speaker 1: two players as a duo is a statement about the

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Speaker 4: I mean really, that's like, you know, not to lean

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Speaker 4: into the stereotype. But I mean, is there any other

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Speaker 4: eventual outcome? I mean, like this is you know, this

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Speaker 4: is it was written so I'll see you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they posted that photo of social and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden photoshops stock Rose likes dollars.

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Speaker 2: But Greg, you are friend of the show.

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Speaker 1: Uh you co host Unsalvageable with one of our favorite

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Speaker 1: guests in Miles and Jack. I'm mat Boostie's history, Sarah

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Speaker 1: Todd's when she's the best, she's.

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Speaker 3: Like exploring the catacombs right now somewhere in Paris or

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the.

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Speaker 4: For both of them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Miles is in Europe, Kanye is in Europe, appears

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Speaker 1: to be having a good time.

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Speaker 2: Sarah is in Europe.

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Speaker 5: How is everyone affording Europe right now?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think we're all just going to

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Speaker 2: need secrets here.

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Speaker 5: They're wide open.

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Speaker 3: Please, I'm supposed to go next year, and like, I

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Speaker 3: don't know, I hope my kid likes not going to college.

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Speaker 1: I went to, uh, the Jersey Shore this weekend this summer,

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Speaker 1: and so why would I need to go to Europe

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Speaker 5: I mean, get you get your tailco accent going.

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Speaker 1: Like a Pittsburgh Is that the Pittsburgh accent?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I get them confused, They're pretty close.

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Speaker 3: They're pretty Yeah, yeah, Pittsburgh. It's all kind of the

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Speaker 3: same thing. Yeah, because that.

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Speaker 5: Means Eagles or Ravens and you got it covered.

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Speaker 2: So what have you guys been watching?

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Speaker 5: Feebaball? What? I what?

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Speaker 2: I Your takeaway has been.

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Speaker 3: I think that Boa Cruise is the greatest player of

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Speaker 4: I'm looking at you like Aunt looked at him. My

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Speaker 4: I mean, my biggest takeaway, and I mentioned this, you

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Speaker 4: I'm sure Luca's basically Luca, regardless of the regardless of

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Speaker 4: give you, you know, thirty six is ten ish and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the guy obviously like unsalvageable. I'm a

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Speaker 3: the big question going into the Utah Jazz this season

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Speaker 1: And then Austin on the US team, Austin Reeves looks

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Speaker 1: really good.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, if if this is the Austin Reeves

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Speaker 3: scary and yeah.

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Speaker 1: Exception, yeah yeah. He has at times looked like the

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Speaker 4: I gotta be upfront about this. Look and I'm miss you.

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Speaker 4: I'm placing aside the usual you know jokes that I'm

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Speaker 4: going Austin Reeves is the basketball is a good is

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Speaker 4: a solid basketball player. He's really going to put if

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Speaker 4: you put him on a team that's you know, that's

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Speaker 4: he does a lot of he does a lot of

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Speaker 4: the little things. Well you know what I mean, he's

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Speaker 4: you know, he's not he's not you know, dunkin from

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, I get it. Folks get tired of Lakers

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Speaker 4: players and Lakers fans in general, but in particular Lakers

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Speaker 4: where it's actually warranted.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean one of the things that the Sarah and

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Speaker 3: I talk about a lot is, you know, if you

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Speaker 3: You know, someone like for the Utah Jazz Lowry Markin

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And then we've got you know, your role players. Who

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Speaker 3: Reeves surprisingly looks like it. He looks like a dude.

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Speaker 3: He looks like again we've talked about, uh, the the

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Speaker 3: But yeah, if if this is who he is moving forward,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, an Ant seems like he continues to improve. Are

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Speaker 3: I have a scorching hot take about Ant and I

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Speaker 3: I think he's like he's right up there. I think, like,

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Speaker 3: but Jahn Morant kind of shot himself in the foot

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Speaker 3: You know, I have I have a five year old

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Speaker 5: And I think that can move forward.

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Speaker 1: There were like there are a couple times in every

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Speaker 1: has like multiple levels still to go up, Like he's

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm excited about that.

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Speaker 1: The other big story I feel like was Ronde Hollis

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Speaker 5: Great FIBA performances.

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Speaker 1: That seems about right to me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard for me to like count out any

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Speaker 2: They did lose Bruce e b.

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Speaker 4: Brucey ain't going nowhere?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Like you know, I posed a question, you know, will

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Speaker 4: For whatever reason, it seems like they're just gonna kind

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Speaker 2: All right up next to your Utah Jazz.

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Speaker 1: Super Last year they went thirty seven and forty five.

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Speaker 5: What say you, Greg, I think that's insanity.

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Speaker 3: I had the Jazz slated as winning somewhere between like

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought they were going to be garbage.

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Speaker 5: Like they completely exceeded expectations.

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Speaker 3: This is probably a team who, if they weren't actively

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Speaker 5: When you when you when.

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Speaker 3: their ceiling is five hundred. I would say, are sorry,

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Speaker 3: their floor is five hundred, and their ceiling is like

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Speaker 3: I really do, and I or I keep saying, I

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Speaker 3: To you know, elevate and become better and develop, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Wow, I love it.

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Speaker 2: Energy for your two lives and just that, like, and

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying like it must be nice to like

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm in. I'm on board.

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Speaker 1: This is like a lock that it's over, because why

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Speaker 3: they still need to develop. This is a team that

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Speaker 4: Oh right, So we talked about this actually before the summer.

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Speaker 4: It might have been during the season on your show.

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Speaker 4: What about what about the idea of bringing your man,

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Speaker 4: you'll bring you know, bring bringing Dame over to this

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Speaker 4: Miami thing? Who knows what? You know, you know what's

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Speaker 4: until they pulled the switch on that. Why not go

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Speaker 5: Yeah, uh, fat white guy.

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Speaker 3: Uh you know, he wasn't able to handle the three

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Speaker 5: That is what I go to. But I love Dame

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Speaker 3: You add Dame to this team and he elevates the

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Speaker 3: You're probably saying goodbye to either one, if not both,

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Speaker 3: It does not help them reach the mountaintop. And then

443
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 3: you've blown your load for a guy who you have

444
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 3: about a two year window to win. And I don't

445
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 3: think that's possible. I think this is a team that

446
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,600
Speaker 3: is still in development and is still in a rebuild

447
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 3: while rebuilding and developing quicker than we thought they were

448
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 3: after the Gobert and Mitchell trades. It's it's not enough,

449
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 3: and I think that it would be misguided, Whereas like

450
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 3: if you put him on a team ostensibly like like

451
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 3: or hypothetically like Miami with a BAM and with a

452
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler, like that's a title contending team within the

453
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:45,719
Speaker 3: next two years.

454
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

455
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 3: So I like Dame, I think he's great. Future Hall

456
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 3: of Famer. Does not fit the Utah Jazz timeline.

457
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: I had no idea that we were state was in

458
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: Utah prior to like, you know, yeah, it's.

459
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 5: Like forty five year and a half from my place.

460
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.

461
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 4: Dame mentioned in it a couple of years back. Was

462
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 4: when I found out. Yeah, I was like, I was like,

463
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 4: Utah Ties, what are you talking about?

464
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 5: Oh?

465
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, what why did he end up there? Is he

466
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: from He just like.

467
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 5: No, he's from England.

468
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 3: He just like he wasn't highly regarded or highly recruited

469
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: coming out of high school, and that was the the

470
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 3: team that gave him a scholarship, gave him a chance.

471
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: We're so underrated documentary. Yeah, I'm sure I'm here. He

472
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: got the Modello commercial, doesn't that. I mean, you know

473
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: that's a preview, that's the trailer.

474
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, all right, The Wolves.

475
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: They have forty three and a half wins over under

476
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: last year they were at forty two lost to the

477
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 1: Nuggets in the first round. The big thing that I

478
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: think would determine like how good they are is Aunt

479
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: gets way better, like or continues to get better. You know,

480
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: Kat is obviously a question mark. Uh go, bet, real

481
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: question mark. But I don't know it's it like that.

482
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: You know, they were getting em fist fights like at

483
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: the end of last season with each other, like what

484
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:11,880
Speaker 1: do we do?

485
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 2: What do we do here?

486
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 4: Can I quickly piggyback on Greg's hot take from earlier,

487
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: because for one, I don't think it's necessarily as hot

488
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 4: of a take and is currently on the trajectory of

489
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,119
Speaker 4: Dwyane Wade and Kobe and that type. I to be clear,

490
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 4: for anybody out there that is, you know, like that

491
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 4: doesn't understand what I'm saying. I'm not saying he's as

492
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 4: good as those guys, but the trajectory that he's currently

493
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 4: on is that type of pace. If he has another level,

494
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 4: we're already going to be having that type of conversation

495
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: in terms of his impact on this team. I not

496
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 4: only am I going over on this, you know much

497
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 4: like Greg was very positive that they were going over.

498
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 5: Uh you know, you know.

499
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 4: That the Jazz we're going to go over. You know

500
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 4: their expectations. I think the Wolves are a solid playoff

501
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,919
Speaker 4: team this year. I think it's going to be on

502
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 4: the back of and whoever else is still left there

503
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: after the deadline.

504
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I think they are a

505
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 3: solid playoff team. I think they're are four or five seed.

506
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: I don't, however, think that the Cat Gobert pairing works. No, no,

507
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 3: And I don't know how you get rid of the

508
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 3: You can't get rid of Gobert.

509
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 5: That's the most untradable contract in the league right now.

510
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, props to Justin Zanak and Danny Ainge for the

511
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 3: absolute fleece of the century. And like you know, I have,

512
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: I have my my hang ups and my beasts with

513
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert. But he did do some great things for

514
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 3: my team. But rim running centers do not all of

515
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: a sudden get better after they turn thirty, and that

516
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: could be a stretch.

517
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: Fun I think, because I was like, my hot take

518
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: to you guys' hot take was that he is the

519
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 1: future of the lead in the face of the NBA

520
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: is Rudy Gobert.

521
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 5: That's I think.

522
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 3: I think we're gonna get a lot more bag at

523
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: Beyonmbos and han Makers than.

524
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 5: I just DP wise.

525
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: I mean, anyone with the instincts to touch all those microphones.

526
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's just like he has social media instincts

527
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: and clout. You know, he knows how to seize a moment,

528
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: like both globally and and in the league.

529
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: Anyway, thanks for Walker Kestler. There was a play though,

530
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: in particularly that really kind of raised my eyebrows, like

531
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 3: even outside of the kind of lackluster season he had

532
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 3: for Minnesota last year, and that was in that France

533
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: versus Canada game, he got banged on by Dylan Brooks.

534
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 3: Was like a pretty routine drive and dunk, whereas like

535
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: Rudy Gobert a couple of years years ago, sends that

536
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 3: back into the eighteenth row and he's just seems like

537
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: he's just a step slower and doesn't cover the same

538
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 3: kind of ground or doesn't have that that's quite that

539
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: same verticality as he did when he was a three

540
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: time Defensive Player of the Year. And I don't think

541
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: you know, that doesn't get better. What made Rudy Gobert

542
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: such a dynamic and versatile player, was his ability to

543
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 3: cover so much ground and absolutely just completely like you know,

544
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 3: watching Gobert in his prime with the JAB, like watching

545
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 3: Gandolf with the staff, just like putting it down and

546
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: being like, you shall not pass. And I think those

547
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 3: days are behind them. And then of course just the

548
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 3: two big pairing. I was kind of really intrigued by it.

549
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: I thought that they would compliment each other because you know,

550
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: what Kat does well, Rudy doesn't, and then vice versa.

551
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: But I just don't see that working. And I think

552
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: if the I think, if Minnesota really wants to make

553
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: a push a answerer guy moving forward, yes, and b

554
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 3: you've got to somehow trade Cat and get some sort

555
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: of big time haul for him, whether that's another star

556
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 3: or a whole lot of depth.

557
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I hope that's what it is.

558
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: Not Like I kind of see the Wolves as kind

559
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 3: of in basketball purgatory, where you're somewhere between the four

560
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: and six seeds, and yes, you make the playoffs every year,

561
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 3: but you're a first second round exit at the very very.

562
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 5: Best, yeah, the best.

563
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: Like somebody described their problem last year being that like cat,

564
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: you have to hide.

565
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: Like on like you can't.

566
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: You can't have him guarding your four because they're just

567
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: going to slice you up, so pick and roll all day.

568
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: But you also can't have go bear guarding your four

569
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: because they're going to slice you up all day.

570
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: They're going to draw him out, and then.

571
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 5: I then you don't have a rim protector, right.

572
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, so they're just out of luck on defense

573
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: when they're playing cat and go bear next to one another,

574
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: and like the stats really bar it out, like they

575
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: were really bad with those two next to each other

576
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: last year. So it's I don't know, it's it's tough,

577
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: but I yeah, I think they need to get rid

578
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: of one of those two. And Gobert seems untradable, so

579
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: probably Kat probably, Yeah, somebody who fits a little bit better,

580
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: and maybe, like I don't know, a new front office.

581
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the thunder.

582
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 5: Julius Randall, you are a timberwolf.

583
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: That is what they would do, though, isn't it what

584
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: they would do.

585
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: They go get Macal instead of Julius and actually give

586
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: an a running mate.

587
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: You know they would do, but they would do Julius.

588
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: They would do Julius Randall. Oh my god, would they ever.

589
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 4: The wrath of the ghost of David Kahn?

590
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: Alright, sorry, James Harden. In like two years, they'll bring

591
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: him in. The Thunder are a team I'm excited about

592
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,479
Speaker 1: because I have a ticket with them winning the title

593
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: on it from Vegas. When I went to Vegas, I'm

594
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: just saying I saw one game highlight reel of Chet

595
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, this man is the truth.

596
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: He is the future.

597
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: No, I don't know that that was an extreme long shot.

598
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: Last year they went forty and forty two. This year

599
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: forty three and a half wins. That that feels pretty

600
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: optimistic to me.

601
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

602
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: They were really good last year. They didn't add that much,

603
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: but I guess they added Chet, right, So they're really

604
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: big on Chet.

605
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they think and a half Chet.

606
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: It's also another year of chemistry and continuity that you're

607
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: building with that core. Yeah, and I don't know. I again,

608
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: like you know, Sandra hot take alarm. I don't think that,

609
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 3: you know, OKAC is necessarily contender, but they might be

610
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 3: the most intriguing team league.

611
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

612
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 3: They remind me kind of of like what the Grizzlies

613
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 3: were a couple of years ago, where like like they're

614
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: right on the cusp of being really really good, and

615
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 3: you know, like, you know, I think Shy's bona fide star,

616
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 3: if not superstar.

617
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 5: I think Chet is going to be really good. I

618
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 5: like Jaden Williams.

619
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: Like and they just they seem like they're building just

620
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: that prototypical modern NBA roster where you have a bunch

621
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 3: of guys between six six and six ' ten who

622
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: can do everything, handle the ball, can switch defensively, rebound,

623
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 3: block shots. You know, I think it's going to take

624
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: a few years for them to really gel, but they're

625
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 3: absolutely my league pass team.

626
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 5: Yeah.

627
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 4: Credit to Presty because like I was one of those

628
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 4: folks three years ago when everybody was, you know, giving

629
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: him all the credit for stockpiling all those picks, I

630
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, well, what are you gonna do with him? Well,

631
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: he's he has shown and he has absolutely put together

632
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: a ruster.

633
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 5: It's the Utah Jas blueprint right there, baby.

634
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: Figure enough, let's go Yeah, all right, So maybe my

635
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: pick is right on and they do win the title,

636
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: and I become a very rich man and nobody ever

637
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: hears from me again, because I just like become a

638
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: weird person who lives in a Vegas casino, grow my

639
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: nails long move.

640
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 5: To Atlantic City.

641
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: To Atlantic City, that would be the move.

642
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, just lives in one of the abandoned taj

643
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: Mahall suites. Yes, Atlantic City is a weird, post apocalyptic city.

644
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 5: One of the strangest places I've ever.

645
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, very strange.

646
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: The Blazers over Under is off the board currently due

647
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: to the uncertainty with Dame. I could see them, you know,

648
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: last year thirty three and forty nine. I could see

649
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: Scoot and you know, Jeremy Grant and you know that,

650
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: I could see them putting together more wins.

651
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: Than people are expecting personally. But we'll say.

652
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: Personally, I think they're going to I think it's going

653
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 4: to be at least similar to the beginning of the

654
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: season for Utah, where you know, to your point, they

655
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: are winning a few games, but I think they have

656
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 4: to look at the future in this one and and

657
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: and kind of pull it back. I think they ultimately

658
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 4: win like twenty five games. But Scoot is in the

659
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: conversation for Repee of the Year.

660
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm right there with you. I think Scoot's

661
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 3: going to be awesome. I'm super high on the guy.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think Jeremy Grant's a nice player. I

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Speaker 3: think Anthony Simons is a nice player. But I you know, A,

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Speaker 3: I think they are going to fully embrace this rebuild.

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Speaker 3: I don't expect Dame to stay in Portland. I think

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Speaker 3: it's you know, it's a matter of time until some

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Speaker 3: sort of deal gets done, uh, and then.

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Speaker 5: It's, you know, it's full rebuild.

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Speaker 3: And I think they have it in their mind that

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Speaker 3: this is a multi year rebuild and it's going to

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Speaker 3: take a few years for Scoot to really reach his

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Speaker 3: potential and then no, who knows from there. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think twenty five thirty wins sounds right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, yeah, I feel like it'll probably be right

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Speaker 1: that that's probably where they're gonna come on the board

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Speaker 1: once once the trade happens.

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Speaker 2: If the trade happens.

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Speaker 3: It certainly wouldn't surprise me though, like Ji said, if

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Speaker 3: Scoot ends up winning Rookie of.

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Speaker 1: The Year, though, yeah, I would if Chet wins. But

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Speaker 1: I also think there's a chance Victor wembing Emma is

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Speaker 1: right away the generationally defensive like Stopper and people.

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Speaker 5: I'm so excited.

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Speaker 3: I got my I got tickets to go see him

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Speaker 3: when he comes to Utah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. I mean it's like.

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Speaker 4: You have to you should.

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Speaker 3: He was supposed to be at Summer League and canceled

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Speaker 3: like this was the year, the first year in god

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Speaker 3: knows how how many that Uh, the Salt Lake Summer

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Speaker 3: League has not featured the San Antonio Spurs, and I

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Speaker 3: bought like my.

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Speaker 5: Three day pass.

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Speaker 3: Everything was announced, uh, like getting all excited like after

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Speaker 3: the draft and then.

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Speaker 2: With Britney Spears. You know.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's take another quick break and when we

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Speaker 1: come back, Greg Greig, great, great, great time. It is

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Speaker 1: time for the fastest segment and podcasting. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: And we're back and it's time. Oh yes, it's time

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Speaker 1: rapid fire to close it out. We're going to be

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Speaker 1: asking you to answer some questions. We need to just

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Speaker 1: give us first thought. Go strong and wrong, you know,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, and we are leaning on you to

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Speaker 1: keep things moving.

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Speaker 2: Let us don't let us have been known to both

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Speaker 2: Dally and Dilly.

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Speaker 4: He's more of a Dilli.

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Speaker 1: But all right, first up, us a team no one

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Speaker 1: is considering for title contention this year, but should be.

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Speaker 5: In the conversation, go the Los Angeles Sakers.

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Speaker 2: But hey, I was not considering them. Who's not considering that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question, actually, Jack that that's that's

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Speaker 4: where that's the problem, because I.

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Speaker 3: Mean I don't think that they're like the top tier team.

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Speaker 3: They're not a Bucks, Celtics or Nuggets Sixers. I mean

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Speaker 3: I'm a Philly guy too, like I mean, I lived

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Speaker 3: in Roxboro, but like.

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Speaker 1: Man, yeah, remember last year, remember they were like up

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Speaker 1: three to two.

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Speaker 4: Somebody on this panel foolishly say it, no, we are

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Speaker 4: good and it was the band of the team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, I would never I'm not a not

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Speaker 1: an idiot, but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, which teams will have the biggest increase in wins?

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Speaker 5: Thunder?

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Where Pascal Siakam, James Harden and Dan playing?

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Speaker 3: You know the Pascal in my heart? And sorry? What

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Speaker 3: was that was the last one? I apologized?

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Speaker 2: James Harden?

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Speaker 5: I mean he's gonna go to l A right, Yeah

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Speaker 5: for the Clippers. Yeah Clippers. No, No, don't you listen.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's bron Hive all the way. I know I'm

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Speaker 3: a Jazz fan, but like I wouldn't wish.

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Speaker 2: That evil me too.

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Speaker 1: All right, you can take two players from all of history.

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Speaker 1: To create your Mad Boostie's Edition NBA Jam team, they

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Speaker 1: have to have played on the same team at some point.

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Speaker 2: Which two players are you taking?

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Speaker 1: Like they don't have to have played together, but like

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Speaker 1: you could take Patrick Ewing and Walron.

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Speaker 2: Shack oh Ron and Shack.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, Laker Shack Yeah, Laker Shack and like twenty

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Speaker 3: sixteen fine Lebron.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. It's all right.

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Speaker 4: Best NBA city in terms of food choices and what

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Speaker 4: does you go to?

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Speaker 5: I mean, god, that is that is tough.

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Speaker 3: I mean if we're just going, if we're just going

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Speaker 3: like straight food, it's New York City, man, Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: like it's it's pizza. I The thing that I missed

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Speaker 3: the absolute most about the East Coast is the Hilal

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Speaker 3: cart chicken lamb right, vegetables, a little bit of herisa

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Speaker 3: and some white sauce.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And then what's your go to dish in Salt

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Speaker 1: Lake City? What's the one that, like when people come to town,

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Speaker 1: you say I got you and take them them.

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Speaker 5: I go to we go to Elmore Lens and we're

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Speaker 5: getting out past or tacos.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you do any of the soda shops any of

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Speaker 2: the dirty.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not a soda guy. This is my in fact,

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Speaker 5: I'll just I'll get it.

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Speaker 3: I know I'm dillying and dallying, but I'm also gonna

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Speaker 3: I'm also gonna brag.

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Speaker 5: Right now.

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Speaker 3: I am going to hit one hundred pounds lost this

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Speaker 3: week from my heaviest and one of the first things

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Speaker 3: I did when I started losing weight was cutting out soda.

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Speaker 3: So like, I got my Parkling, I got my sparkling water.

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Speaker 3: I know, don't I'm doing a visual bit on a podcast,

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Speaker 3: but you know, just for I got the crooking signature

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Speaker 3: line and it's carrying me.

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Speaker 4: All right, all right, If you could have any player's

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Speaker 4: skill set for a day, who's and what skill set

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Speaker 4: would it be?

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Speaker 5: It's Lebronx.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I guess, I guess.

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Speaker 5: Is it just like wait, is it a single skill?

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Speaker 4: So it could be like Iverson's crossover Sandy shooting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that's the yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: We asked this of everyone, and every almost everyone lands

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Speaker 1: on Steph Curry shooting, and I always say that's the

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Speaker 1: right answer. Nobody else is Yeah. That would be cool

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Speaker 1: to just be like, ah, this this feels.

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Speaker 5: Let me just from forty feet in a pickup game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because all right, I mean I do that either way.

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Speaker 5: We got to the next question.

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Speaker 1: I know we got a peak prime Stockton or prime

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Speaker 1: Zeke prime Zke.

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Speaker 4: I love it, I love it. I I'm sorry. I

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Speaker 4: put that in there specifically because I knew he was

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Speaker 4: going to say that and had his jazz fan followers

797
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Speaker 4: would be upset.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I mean Stockton did great things during his career,

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Speaker 3: like you know, personal life notwithstanding. But I mean Zeke

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Speaker 3: in a single playoff run went through Jordan's burden magic. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: as the best player on a team, Stockton ever came

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Speaker 3: anywhere close to that.

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Speaker 2: Ugh.

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Speaker 4: You can go back and attend to any single playoff

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Speaker 4: game in NBA history. Which game are you choosing?

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Speaker 3: It would really really hard for me to turn down

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Speaker 3: the Game seven of that twenty sixteen Finals.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the block, the shot, a completing neck comeback terminator Brown.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that'd be that would be really hard for

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Speaker 3: me to say no too.

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Speaker 1: All Right, And finally, the question we ask all our

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Speaker 1: guests when Jabari is co hosting Jack or Jabari?

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Speaker 5: Jabari was the one who sent the invite.

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Speaker 4: I knew this was no favorites.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can say no favorites.

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Speaker 5: This is this is no offense to anyone.

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Speaker 3: But Jabari has been my guy for for god years now,

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Speaker 3: so it's team Jabari over here. But I say that

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Speaker 3: both also saying that it's it's love to everyone. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I am Switzerland right now. All I want healthcare and.

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Speaker 1: But Switzerland, it's not like Switzerland actually fires a shot

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Speaker 1: in the war and then says that they're pacifist, like

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Speaker 1: you just did when you took me out behind. They

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Speaker 1: shot me in the back of the head.

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Speaker 2: He did, like like siblings, when.

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Speaker 4: You'll smack your you'll smack your little siblings and act.

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Speaker 2: Like And that's why I'm a pacifist.

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Speaker 1: And all right, all right, Mary diplomacy, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what all right, Well, Greg Foster is such a pleasure

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Speaker 1: having you on Miles and Jack and sometimes Jabari got

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Speaker 1: mad Boost's Where can people find you?

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Speaker 2: Follow you? Hear you all that good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can follow me online on Twitter as well

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Speaker 3: as Blue Sky if you've got one of the invite

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Speaker 3: codes that I am at Dad Sham Dad.

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Speaker 5: My podcast is on.

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Speaker 2: Salvage Dad Sham Dad on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: I am dad sham Dad on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think I've like read one of your tweets

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Speaker 1: before on on TDZ.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Great, great name, great handle.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: And then if you're in you know, like politics and

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Speaker 3: pop culture, I have another podcast with a couple of

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Speaker 3: my good friends called Brigham Young Money and that is

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Speaker 3: b y M podcast on the twitters.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm easy to get a hold of. Thank you

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Speaker 5: so much for having me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for doing it man, and thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to our listener of the week, Gritsy Roth,

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Speaker 1: who gave us a five star review and titled their review.

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Speaker 2: We love to see it, don't we? Folks?

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Speaker 1: And especially the review the review the best and only

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Speaker 1: NBA podcast that I listened to.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to you. Actually, Ross, that's the that is

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Speaker 2: the correct answer. We are the only NBA podcast you

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Speaker 2: should listen to.

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Speaker 1: I'm told there are others, but people are saying we're

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Speaker 1: the best one. We're the only one with listening to folks,

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Speaker 1: many are saying.

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Speaker 2: Like a dog, like a dog, they follow us along,

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Speaker 2: follow us around like a little dog.

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Speaker 1: That's funny to talk about how your followers follow you

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Speaker 1: around like a dog. One of them on the Major

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Speaker 1: I could they wouldn't do anything, all right, make sure

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Speaker 1: you give us a follow on Twitter. I'm at Jack Underscore, O'Brien, Jabari,

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Speaker 1: where are you at?

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Speaker 4: I'm at Jabari Davis NBA. And also make sure you

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Speaker 4: follow our guy at Miles of Gray.

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Speaker 1: Yeah see all his pretty pictures from Europe and hashtag

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Speaker 1: Matt boost for show links and updates.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna do it. We are back next week.

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Speaker 1: Miles will be back, uh and we'll be back talking

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Speaker 1: NBA basketball.

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Speaker 2: Who we got next week? What's the division? Do we

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Speaker 2: know yet?

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Speaker 4: Or we're just winging it.

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Speaker 2: We're winging it. We're winging it. How don't we? Folks?

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Speaker 2: All Right, that's gonna do it. See you next week.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye