Speaker 1: Have you.
Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, it's Matt and I'm very excited to let
Speaker 2: you know that my debut album, Have You Heard Of Christmas?
Speaker 2: Is out Friday, November three. Stream it everywhere in anywhere.
Speaker 2: You do that and order the vinyl online.
Speaker 1: Now. I've also got new merch and tickets to my
Speaker 1: tour at www dot Matt rogersofficial dot com starting December
Speaker 1: first in Philly and wrapping up December twenty third in
Speaker 1: New York City. Again, check out www.
Speaker 2: Dot Matt Rogersofficial dot com for all the new music,
Speaker 2: merch and tour info.
Speaker 1: Very exciting.
Speaker 2: It's officially Christmas, and now my gift.
Speaker 1: To you a podcast. Look mare, oh, I see you
Speaker 1: my own and look over there is that culture Yes, goodness, wow,
Speaker 1: last culture ding dong, last cultureistas calling. Both of us
Speaker 1: have had I would say a rough night.
Speaker 2: You had the Sunday scaries. You said I had the
Speaker 2: Sunday scaries. I've never heard you say you ever have
Speaker 2: the Sunday scary. I always have the Sunday scaries. It's
Speaker 2: really bad. I power through it, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Well you must. In a high pressure environment where it's
Speaker 2: high octane, the comedy comes hard.
Speaker 1: And fast.
Speaker 2: It's not even about the work, it's just something about Monday. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what is on the schedule. Hm, I'm
Speaker 2: freaking well. Can I do a people behind the curtain?
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: So you said to me outside that you have the
Speaker 2: Sunday scaries and I was like why, and I could
Speaker 2: sense that it was because you want to do a great
Speaker 2: job for Emma. I do want to come, I said,
Speaker 2: you have to Birthday twins to Birthday twins.
Speaker 1: Well, she's exactly two years older. Okay, Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: you're you're dating her. Oh no, I don't mean going
Speaker 1: out for dinner. It's me Emma ethan Hawk really on
Speaker 1: November sex that is so prestige and county. It's the
Speaker 1: only caliber I'll ever be in with them.
Speaker 2: Quickly googling that's not true, Ethnically googling March fifth Famous birthdays.
Speaker 1: You don't know this at the top of your head.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I think it's because it's kind of like lame. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, wait, no Oscar nominee Adriana Barazza Adrianna Babel
Speaker 1: of course? Wait wait was Adriana nominated the same year
Speaker 1: as Ringo K.
Speaker 2: Well, when you're in the same film. That's often what
Speaker 2: happens is you get nominated the same year. Oh my god, wait,
Speaker 2: Kevin Connolly of Entourage, I can okay.
Speaker 1: Wait, you are Babel and Entourage combined.
Speaker 2: Model Nikki Taylor Pendulette Pendultte, Talia Balsam, actress Talia Balsam.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: These are so Matt Rogers code is. I've always felt
Speaker 2: connected to actress Talia Balsam.
Speaker 1: Do you know who I'm talking about?
Speaker 2: I do know Talia bals She's sort of like in
Speaker 2: so many projects, but like not a household name, and
Speaker 2: I think, even disrespectfully, she's known to some as John
Speaker 2: Slattery's wife, which is true disrespect but she.
Speaker 1: Was his wife on mad Men.
Speaker 2: She was his wife on mad Men, and I think
Speaker 2: she got the row end of the deal there, which
Speaker 2: any woman dating anyone on mad Man was getting the
Speaker 2: wrong You're a woman on mad Man, good Luck unless
Speaker 2: your name was Peggy Olsen. You were arm candy periods.
Speaker 2: This is real culture number fifty nine. If you're a
Speaker 2: woman on mad Man, good Luck, unless your name is
Speaker 2: Peggy Olson otherwise your candy period period.
Speaker 1: It's a long one, yeah, but I think it was
Speaker 1: a true one. And this episode is going to be
Speaker 1: long but true. Yes, this episode.
Speaker 2: Is flirting with Honesty's own vibes because I wanted to
Speaker 2: say I wanted.
Speaker 1: To do people behind the curtain.
Speaker 2: We're doing people behind the curtain. It is Honesty's own vibes.
Speaker 2: I think we're both coming in on a similar like,
Speaker 2: oh hey, good morning girl wavelength and I think that's
Speaker 2: actually beautiful setup. So you had the Sunday scaries and
Speaker 2: didn't sleep. Yeah, I are going to be like Matt
Speaker 2: social to do a bit et cetera when I say this,
Speaker 2: and I literally agree, I'd forgotten to take my Lexapro
Speaker 2: for four days. I think what happened was I'm dumb
Speaker 2: and not that smart without tools to remind myself to
Speaker 2: take it and buy without tools to remind myself to
Speaker 2: take it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't literally just use my phone again on.
Speaker 2: A schedule, but I literally feel like you know, in
Speaker 2: like Mario Kart, where you get like the poison mushroom
Speaker 2: and you drive backwards when you try to drive forwards,
Speaker 2: and like this must be double dash because I don't
Speaker 2: know this girl. I don't know that mushroom.
Speaker 1: See even me trying to make that metaphor come across
Speaker 1: like to read like it's sort of but I know
Speaker 1: what you mean.
Speaker 2: I feel like woozy down and I just I fear
Speaker 2: for what it's going to have me absolutely say on
Speaker 2: the episode.
Speaker 1: Am I going to be saying the truth? Honey?
Speaker 2: That's what I'll say you finally the truth. Finally the truth.
Speaker 2: I said to bowing off Air. I was like, I
Speaker 2: think you need to do The Actress part two.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's yeah, we're talking about m A. Stone.
Speaker 2: I think The Actress Part two would only disappoint. And
Speaker 2: it's no, it is such a perfect I'm not like
Speaker 2: gassing at my own work here, but it's like the
Speaker 2: way that that was conceived and written and made and
Speaker 2: shot and everything was like so pure and like it
Speaker 2: was me and Julio like coming together.
Speaker 1: I think he would admit to this.
Speaker 2: He would have to admit to it. Oh, he would
Speaker 2: proudly say it. No, he would say that. But I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, like, this is how I am with any sequel.
Speaker 1: M hm. You know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I famously kind of hate when sketches are
Speaker 2: force fed on SNL as like recurring bits. I think
Speaker 2: there's been some amazing bits that just not for nothing,
Speaker 2: but kind of like overstay their welcome a.
Speaker 1: Touch, it's always diminishing return.
Speaker 2: And here's what I would say. The actress is not
Speaker 2: one of those things. And this is my pitch for
Speaker 2: the sketch. And am I dooming it by saying it
Speaker 2: probably won't happen if you say it on this Yeah,
Speaker 2: you kind of are doing it. But I think that's okay.
Speaker 2: I've already like rolled that out, so I pitched it
Speaker 2: and he's already ruled it down. Now now it's a
Speaker 2: safe place for me to pitch it here. I think
Speaker 2: this would be iconic. Everyone's gonna agree. The actress too.
Speaker 2: Starts with the actress that Emmastone plays in the first sketch.
Speaker 2: She's now hugely successful. We see like her boudoir is
Speaker 2: filled with oscars. She's got like six oscars, And I
Speaker 2: all say, what's her.
Speaker 1: Name in the schedule? Oh my god, does she not
Speaker 1: have a name? She does?
Speaker 2: Actually, no, she does have a name. She does have
Speaker 2: a name, and I just her name is Grace Grace.
Speaker 1: So we see that Grace, who is known in Hollywood
Speaker 1: mononymously as Grace. She has won six oscars, all for lead. Okay,
Speaker 1: she's Emma Stone, she's emistone a fifteen.
Speaker 2: Like, she's the biggest actress in Hollywood. And they come
Speaker 2: to her with a pitch for another film with Ty Mitchell,
Speaker 2: and she says, I don't know if I can go
Speaker 2: back to that place, and they convince her and we
Speaker 2: see her doing Lady Gaga method on the set, and
Speaker 2: I just feel like we all would love to rest
Speaker 2: into this world, and I have doomed it by pitching
Speaker 2: it here.
Speaker 1: No, you haven't. You have every ideas over here.
Speaker 2: No, if I get an idea from Matt, everyone must
Speaker 2: know that it's mana from heaven. To me, this is
Speaker 2: someone here. Can I just say, mind your manas Mondy
Speaker 2: Manna's Matt and I. You and I have not had
Speaker 2: a chance to really sit down and like dig into
Speaker 2: something creatively in a long time until recently. Not gonna
Speaker 2: reveal too much, but I gotta say I'm blown away
Speaker 2: by this girl. You are very good at this. You
Speaker 2: know what they say is if you want something done,
Speaker 2: give it to a busy person.
Speaker 1: When I'm in busy mode.
Speaker 2: You are the busiest you've ever been. Well, you were
Speaker 2: just in London. I would say that this wasn't a
Speaker 2: runway for that discussion, I do feel very busy. What
Speaker 2: I'm saying is I feel like I've been able to
Speaker 2: be productive because I'm already inuyzon.
Speaker 1: It's inertia, You're already in motion.
Speaker 2: Whereas and I don't know if you and the readers
Speaker 2: agree with this, but when I am given license to
Speaker 2: do nothing, I think I am the biggest waste of
Speaker 2: space on the planet, Like I will just lay around.
Speaker 2: And the way that I feel this morning because of
Speaker 2: how I treated my body yesterday with food and more
Speaker 2: like and the lack of inertia, I feel fifty eight
Speaker 2: years old this morning, and I think it's a little
Speaker 2: bit didn't take them meds a little bit ate very
Speaker 2: badly yesterday. Also, we drank last night at the game.
Speaker 2: We did because we were sort of at the Nets
Speaker 2: game sitting courtside. We were sitting court side and like
Speaker 2: Jack Nicholson, like Jack Nicholson and fucking Michelle Pfeiffer. I
Speaker 2: want to say, did I think she would look thumbing?
Speaker 2: Did they go to a basketball game together at one
Speaker 2: point in the nineties. I think they did maybe. And
Speaker 2: today this morning we woke up feeling like Julianne Moore
Speaker 2: at the game, that meme of her going, wait, really.
Speaker 1: Is there a meme I've heard about? You know the meme?
Speaker 1: I don't think I did.
Speaker 2: It's like they cut to her, it's like stars at
Speaker 2: the game, and she's like fully dissociating.
Speaker 1: Like speaking of Julian Moore it.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, well, your picture of the
Speaker 2: actress too reminded me of May December, like an actress
Speaker 2: playing an actress taking it so seriously, yeah, that's just
Speaker 2: May December in a nutshell. So I sort of said
Speaker 2: what I felt about my December. And I don't think
Speaker 2: we're gonna get into spoilers because May December is going
Speaker 2: to be widely available to watch, I believe Oncembers in
Speaker 2: a couple weeks or soon. Wow yeah on Friday, so
Speaker 2: very soon. But you can see it in theater. Is
Speaker 2: now your thoughts on May December. Let's just go and
Speaker 2: meebirth this bitch. I loved it. You know what I
Speaker 2: had to do what I saw May December and Denver
Speaker 2: at Landmark Strait's Artists and you went by yourself. I
Speaker 2: went by myself. This is a good solo movie theater. Oh,
Speaker 2: it's a perfect solo movie. The theater was full of
Speaker 2: I would say, lovely elderly people with taste, cephiles, cinophiles
Speaker 2: who for some reason still don't know how to behave
Speaker 2: at the theater. Well, let me guess, a lot of
Speaker 2: unwrapping of shit, a lot of talking, a lot of
Speaker 2: k so what I had to do. And also the
Speaker 2: sound was not turned high enough in the space. I
Speaker 2: was sitting in front of two women who were crinkling
Speaker 2: the fuck out of their plastics. There's not enough talk
Speaker 2: about crinkle culture. There's not We need to stop it
Speaker 2: with the crinkling.
Speaker 1: One of the rudest things you could do is a
Speaker 1: glip out of package and crinkle the night away. While
Speaker 1: Julian Moore is speaking, Obviously, they're very in the cure,
Speaker 1: very insecure. I'm very secure.
Speaker 2: So with your thoughts on her lisp, I admit it
Speaker 2: to you, and I it brings me great shame to
Speaker 2: say this. I did not clock that she had a
Speaker 2: lisp until two thirds of the way through the movie,
Speaker 2: until the end of Act two.
Speaker 1: You're so brave to sell your arms. Contra, you're a
Speaker 1: modern woman. You're a modern woman. So interesting how you're
Speaker 1: a modern woman doesn't have any s there's no lists. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: she wanted that one to land boys can be hard,
Speaker 1: boy can be Hardy, can be hard, can be hard?
Speaker 1: I love that line.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of boys can be hard is a
Speaker 2: perfect so okay, not spoiler territory, but just to give
Speaker 2: some context for people.
Speaker 1: And this movie was written, I told you. I started
Speaker 1: reading the screenplay a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: It was on the black List, and people were like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, this movie the screenplay made December is crazy.
Speaker 1: Like everyone should read it.
Speaker 2: And I started it and then realized in watching the movie,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, I this is familiar. It's about Natalie
Speaker 2: Portman play this television actress. I love how it's specifically
Speaker 2: she's a TV actress and not necessarily.
Speaker 1: Looking to break through in this independent film. So perfect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: informs so much about this.
Speaker 2: She wears a hat that I can only describe as
Speaker 2: a hat that an actress wears. She comes to this town.
Speaker 2: So basically it's based on like the Mary Kayla Turno scandal. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so basically, like it's about a woman played by Julian
Speaker 2: Moore who's married to fir student. Well that wasn't a student,
Speaker 2: it was that they were Oh, she ran a pet shop.
Speaker 2: She ran a pet shop and started fucking her employee,
Speaker 2: who was a teen boy. I believe he was in
Speaker 2: eighth grade. He was in the seventh grade. I got
Speaker 2: to mix up because there's not spoiler. At one point
Speaker 2: in the movie, he in the seventh grade writes her
Speaker 2: a card, yes for an assignment. So I for a
Speaker 2: second I thought teacher, But yes, so pet shop.
Speaker 1: She runs a pet shop.
Speaker 2: She starts fucking her child employee, and basically she goes
Speaker 2: to jail. But they get married, and so we meet
Speaker 2: them when Natalie Portman, who plays a TV actress who's
Speaker 2: going to play her in a film, has.
Speaker 1: Gone to this small, small, small like island town they
Speaker 1: live in to start show Georgia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, small island town.
Speaker 1: It's by the water. In my head, it was a
Speaker 1: small island town.
Speaker 2: Okay, well it might have been like Hilton Head or something.
Speaker 2: But anyway, they're very isolated.
Speaker 1: In this town.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's a comfortable place for them to live because
Speaker 2: they don't really get bothered, like you can imagine, like
Speaker 2: this woman has like been through obviously like international shaming
Speaker 2: because she's a rapist who is married to this child
Speaker 2: who's now a grown adult. They have kids, and Natalie
Speaker 2: goes to the town to shadow her and watch her
Speaker 2: because she wants to really do justice to her.
Speaker 1: In this independent film, She's playing Julianne in.
Speaker 2: And the relationship gets more and more complicated as the
Speaker 2: shadowing proceeds. There is a lovely layer that is not
Speaker 2: to I thought it was gonna be very heavy handed,
Speaker 2: but there's a great thing of like to it. There
Speaker 2: are like piano stings and like Lynchian like frames and cuts.
Speaker 1: It's to Hayes and it's very Toddy.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very Todd Haynes, and I loved it, but yeah,
Speaker 2: what else is there to say? I'm the lisp, But yeah,
Speaker 2: I just didn't clock the Lisp because I was just
Speaker 2: so captivated, like everything melted away. I was just like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm watching two people I love come
Speaker 2: together and do that.
Speaker 1: And then Charles Milton a revelation.
Speaker 2: Charles Melton has one scene in particular where I was
Speaker 2: like really really like overwhelmed by his talent. I was like,
Speaker 2: this is crazy, like between him, I guess, and Jacoba Lordie,
Speaker 2: It's like this year is like when you listen with
Speaker 2: two of them like are now being taken very seriously
Speaker 2: as dramatic actors, and with good reason, because I would say, like,
Speaker 2: even with Julianne Moore and Natalie Portman in this movie
Speaker 2: Killing It, and Natalie has a scene, one scene.
Speaker 1: In particular, Yes, she has a monologue.
Speaker 2: Scene where she's playing Julianne and like doing a monologue
Speaker 2: as her, which after Greta and I watched it, I
Speaker 2: turned to Greta and she was just like, I mean,
Speaker 2: if there was any doubt she is totally one of
Speaker 2: the best.
Speaker 1: That we have. And I was like, when Natalie snaps in,
Speaker 1: everyone else is found out. It's really compelling.
Speaker 2: But Charles Milton, I think, gives it the performance that
Speaker 2: you really remember because ultimately, Jamie Lee Curtis, this movie
Speaker 2: is about trauma, yes, and exploitation and how you really
Speaker 2: can't when something like this is inflicted on someone like
Speaker 2: it never leaves them. And yes, what do you think
Speaker 2: about it being classified as a comedy at the Golden PRS.
Speaker 2: I was thinking about that the entire time because Matt
Speaker 2: brought this up last episode with Seth Meyers.
Speaker 1: It's so jarring. I can't believe that.
Speaker 2: But I also am like I can't believe it's not
Speaker 2: getting more inwards buzz. It's kind of getting lost in
Speaker 2: the mix because everything else is sort of like, it's
Speaker 2: hard to market this movie. I guess to like a
Speaker 2: bigger award watching on Well. Weirdly enough, the Academy has
Speaker 2: always like had like a polite respect for Todd Haynes,
Speaker 2: but they've never gone kuckoo bananas over really anything he's
Speaker 2: ever done.
Speaker 1: Like Carrol kind of got nothing too.
Speaker 2: I mean, it got its nominations, and I think that
Speaker 2: the ones that got were like the inevitable ones. And
Speaker 2: I think that people obviously are truly fanatical about that movie,
Speaker 2: like there's a certain brand of gay that is their
Speaker 2: favorite film. And Carol's certainly great, cap blinnch Had is amazing,
Speaker 2: Rooney Mara is great. But this movie, I think maybe
Speaker 2: it's the subject matter. It's just a little dire and
Speaker 2: very uncomfortable, and you sort of leave the movie, especially
Speaker 2: the last scene, feeling really jarred because the last scene
Speaker 2: is is a reveal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe it to be a reveal. I think
Speaker 1: it's a reveal. I think that is the comedic thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it reminded me of Tar honestly, in many ways, many
Speaker 1: many ways, Like this is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes a turn at the end that you're like,
Speaker 2: and the whole thing it actually begs for a rewatch
Speaker 2: in many ways, the same way Tar did, because you
Speaker 2: watch it and you're like wait what yes, yes, and
Speaker 2: that to me, like I can honestly say, like where
Speaker 2: we're really calling this a satire and it is. I
Speaker 2: kind of get it as a comedy, but like it's
Speaker 2: just so weird to think about this subject matter being
Speaker 2: up against like what like no hard feelings and like.
Speaker 1: Right, like you know what I mean, Like you know,
Speaker 1: the Golden Globes is gonna be like jylaw and no
Speaker 1: hard feelings and like what Natalie in May December, Like honestly.
Speaker 2: Kinda Natalie is hilarious in it. She's hilarious, but it's
Speaker 2: not the kids. Are they all out of la not
Speaker 2: sexy enough?
Speaker 1: You're spoiling the whole thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I am you. This is the
Speaker 2: thing about Matt he everyone listen up. She points the
Speaker 2: finger when it comes to spoiling. Oh, shut the fuck up,
Speaker 2: but you spoil. First of all, I would like to
Speaker 2: think what I do. Don't tell me to shut the pelsies,
Speaker 2: So how dare you? The other day I was I
Speaker 2: was at a party that was hosted by our friend
Speaker 2: Matt Whitaker, and I started singing a little bit and
Speaker 2: Jared turned to me from across the room and said, Matt,
Speaker 2: and he goes like this, like telling me that tell
Speaker 2: me the silence literally, And.
Speaker 1: I said, shut up, Yeah, Jared, that's not okay, don't.
Speaker 1: I would never do that to you. Have I ever
Speaker 1: told you to quiet down? Yeah, but not like I've
Speaker 1: never trauma way. I've never across the room.
Speaker 2: At an event been like, hey, that's we love Jared obviously,
Speaker 2: but that's well. Then he told me he was kidding.
Speaker 2: He loves my singing, but that's not the way to
Speaker 2: show love. Speaking of Jared, tonight, we are going to
Speaker 2: a screening of The Color Purple. Oh my god, I
Speaker 2: can't wait for you to see. I can't wait to
Speaker 2: see myself. I'm really excited. So did you know I
Speaker 2: didn't know much about this direct Let's buzzer woule a.
Speaker 2: So he worked on Blackest King. Oh and so I
Speaker 2: had never heard of him before. But then I realized,
Speaker 2: though I've obviously seen and enjoyed his work, and I
Speaker 2: am very I've always been excited because you know that
Speaker 2: I saw Fantasia on stage.
Speaker 1: Do the color person do you remember this?
Speaker 2: And then I think Taraji is kind of a perfect
Speaker 2: shug and all the buzz about the supporting actresses Aboutdanielle Brooks, who,
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, I've never been like super
Speaker 2: emphatic about but maybe it's just because I haven't seen
Speaker 2: her in the right thing. Sure I say this having
Speaker 2: seen all of oranges in New Black, but excited for that.
Speaker 2: But Orders to New Black is an interesting show because
Speaker 2: it was such an ensemble moment, like there was no
Speaker 2: person to really like focused your scope on.
Speaker 1: Some people like.
Speaker 2: Really popped to me in that show, and for some reason,
Speaker 2: like just Tasty was not one of the characters that
Speaker 2: was popping to me, Like I felt like, what was
Speaker 2: her name? God, it's been so long, but the one
Speaker 2: who's pregnant, who is like fucking the Yeah, yeah, yeah, Matthew.
Speaker 1: McGrory, Dia, Dia, yeah, Dia. Yeah. I loved that storyline.
Speaker 2: God, what a moment, What a moment to say, A
Speaker 2: simpler time Orange is the New Black is ridiculous, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but a simpler time.
Speaker 1: In many ways.
Speaker 2: Samir Wiley obviously breakout or prepawn Uzzoh. Remember when Laura
Speaker 2: Papon was giving like the performance. I remember literally saying like,
Speaker 2: Laura Propon is absolutely slanging on this show.
Speaker 1: I was like, maybe Scientology they got a point.
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Olsen? What Elizabeth Olson? Sorry, sorry, sorry, Oh my god.
Speaker 2: I meant no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no Leon.
Speaker 2: I did not mean a dodger leone. I meant Peggy.
Speaker 2: I mixed up Peggy Olsen with Elizabeth What's what's her name?
Speaker 2: The actress who plays Peggy Peggy Peggy Olsen in Madmen.
Speaker 2: She wasn't in Orange of the New Black, but she's
Speaker 2: a scientologist. Oh oh, sorry, Elizabeth Moss.
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Moss.
Speaker 2: God, it's one of the great led It's one of
Speaker 2: the great scientology legends. It's so weird to think about
Speaker 2: people still dying on that hill because they're trapped in it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess that's so true.
Speaker 2: But that just makes you go Wow. What Leah Remeny
Speaker 2: did was the bowler. It was the bravest thing you
Speaker 2: could possibly do. It was the bravest thing she did
Speaker 2: since unbuttoning her top button in second act to deliver
Speaker 2: a punchline. Oh my god, it was iconic and lea remedy.
Speaker 2: In second act, she unbuttoned her top button of her
Speaker 2: jeans and jeans you are a boob guy.
Speaker 1: Time we say, I love boom you.
Speaker 2: This is not the first time that someone with an
Speaker 2: impressive rack has been talked about by Bowen. I'm always
Speaker 2: talking about You're a boob kitties, I love.
Speaker 1: I'm a boob gay. Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Culture number eleven is a boob gay? Should the title
Speaker 2: of that boob gay?
Speaker 1: Boob gay?
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna put this as a tribe on grinder, Yeah,
Speaker 2: boob gay?
Speaker 1: You know that one scorpio boob gay.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite things to know about myself is
Speaker 2: that if I was born female, I would have a rats.
Speaker 1: I really would be not saying.
Speaker 2: Too much about my sister and my mother, but they're
Speaker 2: blessed with big old boobies, and I feel like I
Speaker 2: would have a huge rack if I were born female,
Speaker 2: And that's just something that that would be big tit
Speaker 2: bit a girl. Well, my name would have been Chelsea
Speaker 2: and I would have had huge tits. Do you think
Speaker 2: I'd still be here as a ghost?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think big tits are such they informed so much.
Speaker 2: Patty Harrison wrote a whole show about it. I love
Speaker 2: that show, you know what I mean. My huge tits
Speaker 2: huge because infected.
Speaker 1: Not fake, not fake. My huge HiT's huge because infected
Speaker 1: not fake. Everyone should go see My huge tits huge
Speaker 1: because infected not fake. I saw it at the Edinburgh
Speaker 1: Fringe Festival. It was my favorite work that Patty has
Speaker 1: ever done, which is saying a lot. Yeah, I'm one
Speaker 1: of Patty's number one fans.
Speaker 3: By Racial Girl, by Racial Girl, Why am I giving
Speaker 3: away the show? Literally one part of the showy Racial Girl.
Speaker 2: She has a great song called the Biracial Girl, which
Speaker 2: she is Yeah, because the show really, she said at
Speaker 2: one point, the show is not about my huge tits.
Speaker 1: The show is about the fact that I'm biracial. You
Speaker 1: have to go see it. It's perfect. It's she's perfect.
Speaker 2: For her to do that at Fringe is so iconic.
Speaker 2: Greathouses well to fucking like lampoon, the whole idea of
Speaker 2: a Fringe show. It's like, fuck you for like making
Speaker 2: people like do shows about their identities.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they make them really want to
Speaker 2: do shows about their identities. They want to explore themselves.
Speaker 2: They don't make them, but they are sort of incentivized
Speaker 2: and encouraged to do that. Whatever we can cut this out.
Speaker 2: No one thing I'll say is that the way the
Speaker 2: theater like works, because commumed in the UK is so amazing,
Speaker 2: Like what I just did my shows at the Soho Theater,
Speaker 2: love them so great. Everyone there were so lovely. But
Speaker 2: you get reviewed, which would never happen in America, Like
Speaker 2: I would never like do a show and people would come.
Speaker 1: But it's weird.
Speaker 2: It's like the review culture in the UK and UK
Speaker 2: theater and UK comedy is so different than it is.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like you know they're coming.
Speaker 2: It's like it matters, like the word of mouth really
Speaker 2: literally does travel because of those reviews.
Speaker 1: It's just odd.
Speaker 2: It's just foreign to us as a yeah, as a
Speaker 2: culture where the arts are not subsidized. Okay, that's your
Speaker 2: call for subsidization, that's my call.
Speaker 1: Where were we talking about me December?
Speaker 2: Any I mean, I don't know. If there's much else society,
Speaker 2: then I would say I would give it a big
Speaker 2: old stream it, stream it and also see it, see
Speaker 2: it if you can this week. Anything else, I mean,
Speaker 2: here's the thing I would say. Bowen before we got on,
Speaker 2: said that he has a very sort of big I
Speaker 2: don't think. So I need to do today, And I'm
Speaker 2: told that we have to reserve comment on a certain
Speaker 2: Housewives franchise until the end. So the other one we
Speaker 2: can talk all the other ones, and I will say.
Speaker 2: My father watched Beverly Hills with me, So I was
Speaker 2: I was experiencing a lovely holiday moment, extended holiday moment with.
Speaker 1: My real housewives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I basically I had so much to do.
Speaker 2: I had to watch Salt Lake, Beverly Hills, and Miami.
Speaker 2: So I watched Miami first, and they were sort of
Speaker 2: half watching it with me. Then they both sat down.
Speaker 2: Both my parents sat down and watched Beverly Hills with
Speaker 2: me because I think there's like some in there.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe because they know the women a
Speaker 1: little bit more, they're more famous. This is my dad's review.
Speaker 2: I kind of liked the one who I went through
Speaker 2: the divorce and lives in the small house Erica. Correct,
Speaker 2: he said, I liked the one in the hat Garsell Kyle.
Speaker 1: Kyle.
Speaker 2: Kyle was always very powerful when she puts a hat
Speaker 2: on right, and my mom said.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about her, but I
Speaker 1: have a feeling she's not very nice. Oh, that's my
Speaker 1: mom's intuition. I trust Katrina.
Speaker 2: Then he said that he thinks Garcella is a good mom. Yes,
Speaker 2: and he said Jacks. He said he thinks that Sutton
Speaker 2: is quote unquote crushed in every scene, which means drunk.
Speaker 2: And I think he might have. I think he might.
Speaker 2: You know what I was saying about Sutton. The way
Speaker 2: she's speaking now is so it's setting off every alarm
Speaker 2: in my head because.
Speaker 1: She's going like this, she's something's different. She's talking down and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you want to have a sudden bone, But
Speaker 2: she'll be in the middle of an argument and something off,
Speaker 2: scaring the crap out of me. Yeah, there's something very
Speaker 2: scary about it. And name name him might have been
Speaker 2: like alcohol field. I'm sorry, it's not my place to see.
Speaker 2: I think that you might. I was like, I think
Speaker 2: she might be drinking.
Speaker 1: And then my dad.
Speaker 2: Goes, well, look at the tub in front of her.
Speaker 2: There's a huge cocktail in front of her in that name,
Speaker 2: I'm seeing like a giant paloma. There's something going on there.
Speaker 1: For sure. And then I think we all forgot Crystal
Speaker 1: was in the episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then when Denise Richards walked in, my dad
Speaker 2: turns to me and goes Denise Richards, which he knew
Speaker 2: was which I think is a reveal that he may
Speaker 2: have cranked it to her in the nineties.
Speaker 1: There ranked it.
Speaker 2: That's I'll say it. I think many straight men cranked
Speaker 2: it to Denise Richards in the nineties. And that's a
Speaker 2: rule of culture number seventeen. I think many straight men
Speaker 2: cranked it to Denise Richards in the nineties. You forgot
Speaker 2: iconic Bond girl, yeah, and iconic just hot woman, hot woman,
Speaker 2: wild things.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Scary Movie three exactly, queen, she was so buddy and
Speaker 2: Scary Movie three.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No sex? What no sex?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she played the tru Yeah she was crushed.
Speaker 2: That is We bring up Scary Movie three once a
Speaker 2: month because it's iconic.
Speaker 1: I need to watch it.
Speaker 2: Some of the best It's like it's Airplane, It's like
Speaker 2: some of the best jokes, like yeah, I mean right now,
Speaker 2: I'm forgetting Cameron Manhew, I'm playing Cherry Jones and signs
Speaker 2: that role, and every and every time the camera comes
Speaker 2: back to her hat is bigger.
Speaker 1: To the point where she can't get into the car
Speaker 1: because her hat's so big. Why did they decide that
Speaker 1: was the bit? I don't know, but I want more
Speaker 1: of that, Need more of that? How says blank? Dude.
Speaker 2: Dudel says blank, dude, dude, love it.
Speaker 1: Jenny McCarthy Pam and Jenny Pam and Jenny Pam. Pam
Speaker 1: is such a good actor.
Speaker 2: Justice for Pam. We've been saying it forever. I mean, listen,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm a Pam supporter. I went to opening night
Speaker 2: of Chicago.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I did not see Pam in Chicago.
Speaker 2: What is the next theatrical experience we're going to have?
Speaker 2: I guess should we go see Merrily?
Speaker 1: I saw it at New York Theater Workshop.
Speaker 2: Loved Itathan, they were all in it, Oh Daniel, Jonathan
Speaker 2: and Lindsay and Lindsay. Lindsay was great. So everyone says,
Speaker 2: leaving it girl Merrily. Isn't me you study coded?
Speaker 1: Hmmm? Is it thinking?
Speaker 2: These are three kids who met in college and then
Speaker 2: it all fell apart.
Speaker 1: It all falls apart, and it's told.
Speaker 2: Well the thing with Merrily and I loved this production
Speaker 2: so much, at least the Off Broadway production, but it
Speaker 2: is like structurally doing a cool thing. You know, it's
Speaker 2: told in reverse chronological order, but it does completely take
Speaker 2: the steaks out of it. So you're like, well, I
Speaker 2: know this ends badly, So then why am I like
Speaker 2: watching like the steaks get lower.
Speaker 1: And lower as time goes on? Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: Well, I guess in what like twenty years time, we'll
Speaker 2: have a Richard Linklaner movie that's right, with Beanie and Ben.
Speaker 2: With Beanie and Ben, I mean, I can't wait to
Speaker 2: see that. But I just think, like, and that's not
Speaker 2: a Sondheim thing. I forgot who wrote the book, but like,
Speaker 2: I just think that's the fundamental thing about Merrily that
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's why, like it hasn't been put up
Speaker 2: that often, and now that I think this is the
Speaker 2: perfect setup for it where you have these big stars
Speaker 2: do it and the music's great.
Speaker 1: I do love the songs. I just love a.
Speaker 2: Factual experience, I really do. How are you gonna get
Speaker 2: your egot? Let's see Emmy this season in messing out.
Speaker 2: Let's hope Oscar for this season? If you play who
Speaker 2: would you.
Speaker 1: Play in a biopic?
Speaker 2: To get your Oscar I'm famously playing Hunter Biden. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I would play Eileen Warnow. I would play
Speaker 2: do you think they didn't get it right the first time?
Speaker 2: I think Charlie's flopped. Just kidding. I think Charlie's flopped,
Speaker 2: and I need to go in there, and I think
Speaker 2: you'd be a stunning Aileen.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, show me what's the line from the movie. I
Speaker 2: remember the clip they played at the Oscars.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the clip was like.
Speaker 2: I forgot, she's like going she's going crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I know a makeup person.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of them, a lot of who
Speaker 2: could do what they did, who can do what they did? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: I would say for my performances Hunter Biden, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna not sleep. I'm just gonna show up to set
Speaker 2: every day like Haggard, like hag like it's so rough.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna embody what it feels to feel rough and
Speaker 2: just go in and like, should I write the script myself?
Speaker 2: I feel like I have to make this happen. I
Speaker 2: think no, no one's gonna write me in my Hunter
Speaker 2: Biden vehicle.
Speaker 1: I just I think, listen the people at script Notes,
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast. I think they're gonna get the word.
Speaker 2: Out that John August, write me my Hunter Biden vehicle
Speaker 2: now now, John, listen, it's.
Speaker 1: All been very thought. A nice city has passed back
Speaker 1: and forth. Do something, write me a role. I think
Speaker 1: that's your oscar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my Grammy and Grammy is clearly in coming.
Speaker 1: And Tony, Oh, we should definitely win a Tony together.
Speaker 1: Do we do that?
Speaker 2: Hmmm? It's usually we compete Wicked stage Wicked and we
Speaker 2: both win.
Speaker 1: This is so funny.
Speaker 2: I actually was listening to Defining Gravity today. I don't
Speaker 2: know why, but I think I was just, oh, you
Speaker 2: want to know what I was really feeling myself. So
Speaker 2: pick Pie of the Curtain because this is a big
Speaker 2: truth episode Honesty's own. People were late today and I
Speaker 2: was very early. He was, Matt was, so I was like,
Speaker 2: so freakishly early. So I decided to like walk around
Speaker 2: and for some reason I landed on Burn from Hamiltonton,
Speaker 2: which was one of the inspirations for my song Every
Speaker 2: Christmas Eve, oh years ago, and I was listening to
Speaker 2: it and I'm like, this song goes so hard.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's a beautiful song. You farfit the rest of that.
Speaker 1: You far fit. You don't get don't know about us?
Speaker 1: That so good. Pippa went off on that one.
Speaker 2: I want to be at the Kennedy Center Honors, Pippa
Speaker 2: so wait, I was.
Speaker 1: Actually thinking about this too.
Speaker 2: What would the Kennedy Soner Honors for Mariah B what's
Speaker 2: the lineup and what songs? Go?
Speaker 1: Oh, I can't do this. I don't know Arianna.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would like to see Arianna do either dream
Speaker 2: Lover or Fantasy.
Speaker 1: You know that's all. You're not as big a lamb
Speaker 1: as I am.
Speaker 2: I know I know these songs, but I'm thinking, like
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, if there's no I trust you.
Speaker 1: I want Kelly to sing my all like we pitched
Speaker 1: on this episode. What she wants to sing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I think I kind of want ari
Speaker 2: to give a more uptempo moment. That's what I say.
Speaker 2: Was like fantasy. Even Fantasy is a little slow. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's not like you need like something fast. She doesn't
Speaker 2: really have a lot of up up up tempos. By
Speaker 2: the way, they just did a tribute to Mariah and
Speaker 2: Jennifer Auson sang Vision of Love. It was so much
Speaker 2: singing yes that I just have to stand on a
Speaker 2: plod right, and then Patty LaBelle also sang I forget
Speaker 2: what she sang, but like it was also stunning, and
Speaker 2: I was just like wow, because to tribute Mariah you
Speaker 2: kind of have to bring everyone in who's gonna do
Speaker 2: kind of the most to say the least, right.
Speaker 1: And imagine just sitting.
Speaker 2: There for performance, have to performance just like knocked off
Speaker 2: your pedestal by these women who know it's their Mariah
Speaker 2: carry tribute moment.
Speaker 1: Right, and that she's watching.
Speaker 2: I think that is a YouTube clip that will be
Speaker 2: watched by gays over and over and over again when
Speaker 2: it happens.
Speaker 1: After it happens. Wait, I'm sorry, did this happen. It
Speaker 1: happened the other night, but not a Kennedy Center, I know, yes,
Speaker 1: but is it on YouTube? Is what I'm saying. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I watched the Jennifer Hudson performance okay, okay, and it was,
Speaker 2: like I said, it was the Vision of Love and
Speaker 2: it was just like, WHOA. The thing about Vision of
Speaker 2: Love and Mariah is there's like an elegance.
Speaker 1: Oh, she comes in completely like I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone can really sing that. You think so?
Speaker 1: I think it's one of those songs.
Speaker 2: I think Vision of Love is a lot more I
Speaker 2: Will Always Love You than we realized in that Like
Speaker 2: by the end it's like, yeah, it's also just like
Speaker 2: a vision of Love is so Mariah coded because it's Mariah.
Speaker 1: Pure Mariah, that's real. Number eighty nine.
Speaker 2: Vision of Love is so Mariah coded because it's Mariah.
Speaker 1: It's almost like she starts.
Speaker 2: Solo and then by the end she's like, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just so even to hear Jennifer Hudson do it, who's
Speaker 2: obviously one of the best singers out there, it's just like, yes,
Speaker 2: this is a tribute to This is not a new
Speaker 2: rendition of because you really can't do a new rendition
Speaker 2: of vision and vision of love, right, And I think
Speaker 2: that's the case for a lot of Mariah's songs, which
Speaker 2: is why you don't see her covered a lot. But
Speaker 2: that song in particular, you really can't write. Would you
Speaker 2: say that Mariah's music is timeless or is it so
Speaker 2: beautifully time bound that you can't really like modernize it. Well,
Speaker 2: people do literally modernize it, like fucking fantasy. They just
Speaker 2: big dick energy was ye ye ye, But even that
Speaker 2: was very preserved. Yeah, like it sounded just like fantasy,
Speaker 2: and fantasy is of course a sample.
Speaker 1: So wait, but I would say, was it you that
Speaker 1: said to me? It wasn't you.
Speaker 2: I think it was Jared because he loves to do this.
Speaker 2: He was like, if you had to keep one person's discography, no, I.
Speaker 1: Hate this shit.
Speaker 2: I hate this, hate this, hate this so much. But
Speaker 2: he said, because I don't have to keep one person,
Speaker 2: You're right exactly.
Speaker 1: And I was like, there's actually not so now that
Speaker 1: we have both discographies, there's not a world where like,
Speaker 1: you can never listen to this again. But I guess
Speaker 1: he was like, imagine a world where and you could
Speaker 1: never listen. I don't think so money like that whole
Speaker 1: like rhetorical thing. I don't like those guns to your
Speaker 1: head Jesus or that. Well, I don't have a gun
Speaker 1: to my head, and I wouldn't. No one would ever
Speaker 1: hold a gun in my head and make me choose
Speaker 1: these two fucking things, right, And so he said to me,
Speaker 1: gun to your head.
Speaker 2: Sorry, tried to put you on blast, but you did
Speaker 2: say this Taylor or Beyonce. And I was like, I
Speaker 2: refuse to answer the question, refuse to answer the question.
Speaker 2: But he said Taylor and Mariah.
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to keep Mariah's music. Oh,
Speaker 1: of course, I have to keep Maria's music. To you, Mariah,
Speaker 1: It's just it's not that I don't want to be disrespectful,
Speaker 1: but it's like I think that that would put me
Speaker 1: in a serious depression knowing that I could never listen
Speaker 1: to any of Mariah's music ever again, Whereas like Taylor
Speaker 1: write new music, not that Mariah couldn't, but like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, there's something so special to me about Mariah's discography.
Speaker 2: The beauty of Taylor is the like glut of music
Speaker 2: that there is. And part of gorgeous word glut glut,
Speaker 2: and then what goes with that.
Speaker 1: Is you can comia glut.
Speaker 2: Part of that means as a consumer, and that's all
Speaker 2: I am as a consumer. I big bottom, big bottom.
Speaker 2: I get to take a break, yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. And like I think with Taylor, sometimes I
Speaker 2: have to consciously be like I'm gonna tap on, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna listen to some like Byork or whatever. You know.
Speaker 2: People were like, oh, she's announcing reputation TV tonight. They
Speaker 2: were saying this all weekend, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: you guys, we have to slow down, let her exist.
Speaker 2: We have to low down, like because honestly I remember,
Speaker 2: like my initial reaction to even Evermore coming out was
Speaker 2: I was just like, but we just got folklore what Like,
Speaker 2: I was just like, it's gonna take me a second.
Speaker 2: Then I eventually got around to Evermore and like it
Speaker 2: was one of my favorite albums of hers.
Speaker 1: But when things come too fast, too furious. It's like
Speaker 1: even with nineteen eighty nine TV, like we were honest
Speaker 1: about our thoughts about it on this pod, but like
Speaker 1: I haven't really sat down and like allowed the newer
Speaker 1: songs Yes to like seep into my vans as like
Speaker 1: Taylor Cannon because I'm like, I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: feel like I'm not in that zone right now.
Speaker 2: I'm still enjoying the Yes. I'm still listening to Cruel Summer.
Speaker 2: I'm still listening to Cruel Summer. I was thinking today
Speaker 2: in the shower should give Lover another full rotation. I
Speaker 2: love Love Lover is. It's maligned and there's no reason
Speaker 2: for it to be. It is such an interesting moment
Speaker 2: in her career for her first two singles to be
Speaker 2: songs that are so outside of what she knows.
Speaker 1: She does best. Do you know what I mean? For
Speaker 1: Me and You need to Calm Down to be the
Speaker 1: first two singles from that.
Speaker 2: Do you think that me and You need to calm down?
Speaker 2: We're just like an overcorrection from the reputation? Yes, me
Speaker 2: is so still such a big question mark for swifties.
Speaker 2: I think it's so rare for her to be I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna say this publicly, A little self conscious about
Speaker 2: it because you remember when she took out Hey Kids Fun?
Speaker 1: I thought was the wrong move.
Speaker 2: I was like, why are you taking out? I think
Speaker 2: because that is the element of like whatever. Uh kill
Speaker 2: me for saying this, but like the element of wit
Speaker 2: that's in there. Something's a little off, something's a little wrong,
Speaker 2: And I love it when that happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It felt like a choice that was made and we
Speaker 2: should stick to the choice. Did you ever say why
Speaker 2: she took it out? And it kind of just reads
Speaker 2: as self consciousness because maybe the response to it. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was like on paper a huge hit, but like
Speaker 2: the response to it was like the internet was like
Speaker 2: what the people being like, we.
Speaker 1: Don't know about this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? And then it did that weird thing where she
Speaker 2: does have like that reputation for quote unquote not choosing
Speaker 2: the right first single, which is like not something that's necessarily.
Speaker 1: True and it doesn't really matter in the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you need to come down was of
Speaker 2: course felt gay Baby at the time. I don't know,
Speaker 2: like it did feel like that was like a moment
Speaker 2: in her career where people were just ready to drag
Speaker 2: her in a way that like sort of invalidated just
Speaker 2: how good her actually was, which because most of the
Speaker 2: songs on that album are like some of her greatest
Speaker 2: work still an Archerstan she said, by the way that
Speaker 2: it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: And while it's dreams yeah, I mean the stream.
Speaker 2: Dreamable version and long live but because so much of
Speaker 2: Lover is so fucking good Lover, the song to me
Speaker 2: is one of her best.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, those weren't the singles. Cruel Summer was
Speaker 1: the single Girl.
Speaker 2: But then again, can we argue with the timeline which
Speaker 2: saw Cruel Simmer have this moment It felt right for
Speaker 2: the Aerostour, it did. Everything happens for a reason. Hashtag Taylor,
Speaker 2: hashtag I want to quickly talk about Miami. Drianna is
Speaker 2: so important. Adriana de Mora is so important and why
Speaker 2: is she not housewife status? The only thing about Miami
Speaker 2: is the friends are so vital to the show, and
Speaker 2: there is just like I guess it's just too many
Speaker 2: women who are already house wives who are holding. There's
Speaker 2: full time and three friends, it's nine. Bump it up
Speaker 2: to nine.
Speaker 1: I don't know, do it.
Speaker 2: Potomac has eight right now, and five out of the
Speaker 2: eight are fucking cannon fodder.
Speaker 1: I can't do this. We have to wait till I.
Speaker 2: Was told that we had the way to talk about Honey.
Speaker 2: But in terms of Miami, I feel like here's the thing. Marisol,
Speaker 2: Adriana and Kiki. I think there's this thing that Miami
Speaker 2: is doing that because they have women that are married
Speaker 2: and are actual, quote unquote housewives. They are the main cast. Sure,
Speaker 2: But then again, like Larsa, isn't I think we're well
Speaker 2: past the point of like, yeah, that being a requirement.
Speaker 2: But anyway, this is all to say I love this
Speaker 2: show so much.
Speaker 1: I think that if it's working, if it ain't broke, sure,
Speaker 1: Like Kiki is a friend of I think is perfectly fine.
Speaker 1: Kiki is a friend, Up's perfectly fine.
Speaker 2: Even Maratha, I just think Adriana drives so much of
Speaker 2: the tree does and she is I'm.
Speaker 1: No longer susceptible to your poison. They have vipers like
Speaker 1: the venom like vipers, venom like vipers. Fuck you marry
Speaker 1: salt motherfucker. Hateful person, be hateful because I'm flatulent.
Speaker 2: The word flatulent being used so many times. Really, no
Speaker 2: notes for Miami, No, no notes for Salt Lake. Really,
Speaker 2: these are fun shows and that's what you need. That's
Speaker 2: what makes something watchable. Okay, period pointless, and that will
Speaker 2: lead into our discussion on another franchise in just a bit. Okay,
Speaker 2: so listen, it's time I think to sort of get
Speaker 2: that negativity out and I'm actually gonna have you go
Speaker 2: first today. I'm superstitious what I feel like, you always
Speaker 2: go first, and I feel like if you're going to
Speaker 2: switch up the order, this is gonna really shake up
Speaker 2: the week, which I you know what, maybe I need I.
Speaker 1: Think I forgot what. I don't think so, honey, was
Speaker 1: I think you need to go first? Okay? Okay, this
Speaker 1: is bone Yang's I don't think so, honey, and it's
Speaker 1: long awaited as time starts now, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: One of the real House as of Potomac, I think
Speaker 2: I'm tapping out because it has become utterly unwatchable.
Speaker 1: It brings me no pleasure to say this.
Speaker 2: If you had asked me two years ago, I would
Speaker 2: have said it was my favorite city in the entire franchise.
Speaker 2: Now it is dead last because, as I said, the
Speaker 2: Race show is bad. Five out of these eight women
Speaker 2: are intolerable. Three of them are evil people, Mia thirty, Mia,
Speaker 2: Giselle Robin, You guys, you guys are so awful. And
Speaker 2: that I love Karen, I love Wendy, I love Canvas
Speaker 2: Down forever for life. But the rest of these women
Speaker 2: are so desperate to be on television, so thirsty, so hungry.
Speaker 2: They're acting like Drew Carey just called their names on
Speaker 2: the prices, right, and they're racing to the bottom to
Speaker 2: bid one dollar because that is what is the price
Speaker 2: five of the show. Even Wendy. I love you, Wendy,
Speaker 2: but you are over correcting here. I mean this show
Speaker 2: is bad.
Speaker 1: Vibes. That's one minute. Listen to me. I'm out.
Speaker 2: You sit here and you say that the evil people
Speaker 2: are Giselle, Robin and Mia, I would raise you in
Speaker 2: Ashley Darby.
Speaker 1: Oh, Ashley Darby.
Speaker 2: You're fucking Ashley Darby is God. So here's something I
Speaker 2: was actually asking myself. Is Ashley Darby this dumb or
Speaker 2: this mean? And I'm like, oh, it doesn't mess obviously
Speaker 2: that she's this mean because her thing of like, oops,
Speaker 2: did I spread that rumor about Wendy's mother being like
Speaker 2: a voodoo person?
Speaker 1: First of all?
Speaker 2: Can I say I am with you? I kind of
Speaker 2: refuse to participate in something that's gonna pit these two
Speaker 2: Nigerian women against each other.
Speaker 1: Based on heritage. It's so disappointed. And I was really
Speaker 1: not about the editing of the last episode, which was
Speaker 1: like showing Wendy's mother like praying, and then they did
Speaker 1: this weird musical sting on it to make her seem
Speaker 1: like mystical.
Speaker 2: That did not feel right now to me, this all
Speaker 2: it feels very wrong to me. How many more times
Speaker 2: are we gonna have to have Wendy sat down by
Speaker 2: Ashley and told something horrible like that's being said about
Speaker 2: her life?
Speaker 1: Just for what These women aren't friends. That's not fun.
Speaker 1: They're they're just not friends. They're just not friends. Robin
Speaker 1: is inactive.
Speaker 2: They all live like fifteen miles apart from each other.
Speaker 2: It's like there is no like central binding hub. There's
Speaker 2: no agent, there's no like thing that like brings these
Speaker 2: people together. Truly, the way that Giselle salivates when she
Speaker 2: hears she can talk shit about Wendy or that there's
Speaker 2: something nasty about Wendy, it's so like the glee with
Speaker 2: which Robin was receiving that information from Neca, like about
Speaker 2: like all that stuff that was negative about Wendy.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is.
Speaker 2: Such an ugly yep show yep, and it really is
Speaker 2: a shame. And I'll miss you Karen, I'll miss you Wendy,
Speaker 2: I'll miss you Candice. And I'm not saying I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna watch it. I'm just saying, like I still haven't
Speaker 2: seen this week's episode. There's no propeller for me to
Speaker 2: watch it. It's like, and honestly that's the thing too
Speaker 2: about like having so many other franchises that are doing
Speaker 2: so great on Bravo right now, is just like I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna watch something I'm not gonna enjoy that I
Speaker 2: like morally object to.
Speaker 1: There's no way. And also it's like why why invest time?
Speaker 1: We don't you.
Speaker 2: Don't have the time, like you the readers Katie's Publics
Speaker 2: finalists do not have the time to watch something like
Speaker 2: that for Potomac anymore. I never thought I would say this.
Speaker 2: I used to love the show. Literally, what I said
Speaker 2: was I would hang out with any of these women.
Speaker 2: Now these are the fucking lamest people. It's really so
Speaker 2: deeply uncool.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also it's just like, I guess like Wendy and
Speaker 2: Candace and Karen have to keep participating because it's the
Speaker 2: show that they're on, but it's just like, god, like,
Speaker 2: at what point is it not even worth it? You
Speaker 2: have to show up and these are your colleagues, people
Speaker 2: who are out to destroy your lives and the people
Speaker 2: that you love. That's like, that's the difference. Is that
Speaker 2: on Miami it's like you talked about me because I
Speaker 2: was flatching on how daily your vipra so funny? And
Speaker 2: on Beverly Hills, it's like, you know, it definitely gets thick,
Speaker 2: it gets a little dark, but like there's like a
Speaker 2: pageantry there that the women are all in on. That
Speaker 2: feels like these women are not collaborating with each other
Speaker 2: to make content, They're conspiring with one another to ruin
Speaker 2: each other, right, And it feels like for what it's
Speaker 2: not entertainment, and for Salt Lake, there is an element
Speaker 2: of like there are criminals about and these women have
Speaker 2: to unite to fight off these evils. Like that is
Speaker 2: a fun, compelling thing for me to watch. They're also
Speaker 2: fun to watch. They're also so like none of these
Speaker 2: women are fun to watch. And I'm sorry, but like Candas,
Speaker 2: you haven't been on the show, like I mean, like
Speaker 2: this is another part of it. Cannis, Karen and Wendy
Speaker 2: Wendy except for this like fucking neck of stuff. It's
Speaker 2: like they're not featured enough. There's so much focus being
Speaker 2: put on Robin and Giselle still and Ashley in her
Speaker 2: stupid why are you doing a coast side house and
Speaker 2: the fucking DMV Ashley Derby the.
Speaker 1: Stupidest fucking It's yeah, it really is a very like
Speaker 1: lead very.
Speaker 2: Like it's like very like old fashioned like beach house.
Speaker 2: It's it's giving like fifth thought, it's just how many
Speaker 2: houses have we been to in the suburbs where this
Speaker 2: is the story. You know, my house is a beach
Speaker 2: it's giving like lame, it's given like that's not to
Speaker 2: disrespect anyone who's like my living room is the sand,
Speaker 2: and my my bathroom is the beach.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like that is like a
Speaker 1: common thing. I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm only using this his ammunition against someone that I
Speaker 2: already dislike. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Everyone else, I think your house is beautiful.
Speaker 2: If you have a coastal themed house in a landlocked area,
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I think your house is beautiful. I think your house
Speaker 1: is beautiful.
Speaker 2: But if your name is Ashley Darby and you're are
Speaker 2: they divorced yet?
Speaker 1: And you're fucking oh they're not divorced?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you're in such a sad arrangement, Ashley. And
Speaker 2: here's the thing that connects all of these women that
Speaker 2: are like vituperative on the show or what I learned
Speaker 2: from bewen Yang is their person and lives are all
Speaker 2: a mess, Like watching the Robin and Wan of it
Speaker 2: all is so pathetic. And the fact is like you
Speaker 2: kind of do, like have to side with her because
Speaker 2: it's like when someone says like.
Speaker 1: I don't care, I don't care, I don't care, You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: well she said she doesn't care, So now I guess
Speaker 1: everyone else is uncool for trying to get her into
Speaker 1: a position where she like But again, ultimately, what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is it's just like, guys, she doesn't care. She
Speaker 1: doesn't want her life to be better. She doesn't aspire
Speaker 1: two better things, right, So when someone is telling you
Speaker 1: what they feel, that's what she feels.
Speaker 2: Leave her bee, leave her be. She doesn't want her
Speaker 2: situation to improve, which then makes me go, then why
Speaker 2: is she on television? Why am I watching her life?
Speaker 2: And well, our husband got fucking fired. And now here's
Speaker 2: another garbage thing I'm picking up on the show. He
Speaker 2: is constantly one Dixon is constantly on television being like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, I got fired because we weren't winning games,
Speaker 2: not anything. I love my guys. I love my guys.
Speaker 2: It's like, first of all, here's the truth. You allowed
Speaker 2: a situation to go on on your team, Yes, with
Speaker 2: a young person who will be affected by just look
Speaker 2: it up because.
Speaker 1: I'm not getting into actually disgusting. It's disgusting.
Speaker 2: He covered up basically assault on his team, like a
Speaker 2: coach on his team was to say the least inappropriate
Speaker 2: with one of the players. The player brought it to
Speaker 2: the attention of the coaches, and the coaches like buried it. Okay,
Speaker 2: so that's why he was fired. That's what we're dealing
Speaker 2: with in that family. In the Dixon household, Gizelle is
Speaker 2: being so fucking stupid with this whole like cougar identity
Speaker 2: she now has.
Speaker 1: This woman doesn't know who she is. This woman does not.
Speaker 2: Interesting and the only thing that makes her interesting is
Speaker 2: the way that she.
Speaker 1: Plays the chessboard. I guess in terms of like, she.
Speaker 2: Doesn't play the chess board. She fucking flips the table. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she fucking flips it. She like makes a fucking mess.
Speaker 1: It's just that no fun. It's not fun. It's no fun.
Speaker 2: And Ashley Darby being like, oh oops, did I destroy
Speaker 2: any potential for these two women to be friends Mekka
Speaker 2: and Wendy, when like they should have come on and
Speaker 2: been like, you know, not that Meka needed any help,
Speaker 2: because she couldn't have got to the center of this
Speaker 2: inappropriate bullshit with Wendy's mother quicker. No. But also Neka
Speaker 2: is like not at whatsoever, there's no star wars, no
Speaker 2: star quality. The way she talks to her husband is vile.
Speaker 2: She like screams at him to shut up every single day.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't like this.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say about Mia. At least I'm laughing.
Speaker 2: I've started calling her the legendary Mia Thornton in group chats,
Speaker 2: and I do laugh because you're laughing because she's not legendary,
Speaker 2: because she's actually she's equally as pathetical.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say, Like, if Mecca has no star quality,
Speaker 1: at least I think Mia, like whenever she's on television,
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what is this gonna be? I at
Speaker 1: least do like watching Mia. I do Mia.
Speaker 2: The moments that I say the legendary mea legendary Meathorton.
Speaker 2: The moments that I like watching the legendary Meathorton are
Speaker 2: when Karen is being so mean to her and Karenhake
Speaker 2: and she just takes it on and then Mia just
Speaker 2: kind of takes it on the chin, and I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: that's funny, but like that does not a reality TV
Speaker 2: character make. I just I don't know what to say.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'm not gonna watch it anymore, but
Speaker 2: I am saying, like.
Speaker 1: You are right, Dead Last.
Speaker 2: It's bad Dead Last, and I feel like the weird
Speaker 2: thing that's happening is they feel like they can't get
Speaker 2: rid of Giselle and Robin and Ashley, and I have
Speaker 2: to tell you you can, you can, you can't. Actually
Speaker 2: this happens all the time, is you get the toxic
Speaker 2: people out of those situation.
Speaker 1: It is a noxious show.
Speaker 2: Like it's just like, oh, like we're not dealing with
Speaker 2: Lighthousewives content, We're dealing with this stuff that Like watching
Speaker 2: Wendy's face as she has to receive that this is
Speaker 2: gonna be the conflict of the show, like they're attacking
Speaker 2: her mother based on heritage and religion is so and
Speaker 2: like what they are saying about this, like ole, this
Speaker 2: implication that Wendy's family might be OSU is actually so
Speaker 2: so so damning and dark and so personal that it's like,
Speaker 2: of course, like the Bravo audience, the Housewives audience is
Speaker 2: not going to actually understand what's being implicated here. But
Speaker 2: it's like if you look into it and actually go
Speaker 2: to Wendy's Twitter and see what she's gretweeting and what
Speaker 2: she's saying, it's really really fucked up. But that's the
Speaker 2: thing is that there's so much room for misinterpretation or
Speaker 2: like agnosticism about like what these things mean in that
Speaker 2: culture that it leaves room for so much bad faith,
Speaker 2: in bad like interpretation of what this all means, and
Speaker 2: like and fucking Ashley Darby starts it like this, fucking
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, light skinned woman who like could not care
Speaker 2: less about the fact that these two women are from
Speaker 2: a culture that is completely foreign to her, And also
Speaker 2: watching them all sweat so hard to try to make
Speaker 2: Meca a thing. They're all getting on their Instagram, like
Speaker 2: we're so excited for you guys to meet Mekka, and
Speaker 2: NEA's incredible.
Speaker 1: It's like, Mekka is total not today, Meka, not today?
Speaker 1: What is it? Not today today? Not today?
Speaker 2: Today, the ankles, ankle, not today, Satan not today. Say
Speaker 2: we miss you Candae on the show? I mean Hana's
Speaker 2: she was on the show this episode, but I just
Speaker 2: where you've been, where you been anyway, she's been on tour,
Speaker 2: and that's what's doing on the tour. Okay, I do
Speaker 2: have and I don't think so, honey, And I wish
Speaker 2: I didn't. Oh, I wish I did it. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: It's okay, now, Rogers, I don't think so many times
Speaker 2: starts now, I don't.
Speaker 1: Think so, honey.
Speaker 2: The song from Wish, Oh, I just missed the day
Speaker 2: of majesty in these Disney songs, Like I'm listening to
Speaker 2: the song from Wish and I'm rooting for Wish, like
Speaker 2: I root for every like Disney Princess movie that comes out.
Speaker 2: And then here's what I would say, like to give
Speaker 2: some feedback, like too many words, like where is the
Speaker 2: timeless melody? Where is the timeless? Like easy thing to
Speaker 2: let you into, like where is seconds the days of
Speaker 2: Alan Mankin and Howard Ashman, like we need to find
Speaker 2: And I love Julia Michaels, but she is a pop songwriter,
Speaker 2: and I feel like there's like a lack of like
Speaker 2: timelessness or like memorability to the melodies in this Seconds.
Speaker 2: And I listened to like the soundtrack today and I'm
Speaker 2: just like, we're missing some of the magic. And that's
Speaker 2: to not to say too much about like the whole
Speaker 2: fucking thing, but where is the magic? We need less
Speaker 2: words to find it. I didn't like the song and Wish,
Speaker 2: I don't think so, honey, And that's one minute. And
Speaker 2: it's so interesting because all of the promotional stuff about
Speaker 2: this movie is making it seem like this is the
Speaker 2: best I want song Disney has ever written. First of all,
Speaker 2: you have to say it, it probably isn't true. And
Speaker 2: also it's like, let's not pretend like the steaks aren't
Speaker 2: so high in terms of that, I mean, like part
Speaker 2: of your world is staring us in the face. By
Speaker 2: the way, there was a rolling Stone list about the
Speaker 2: top ten Disney movies, and I actually agreed with it.
Speaker 2: It wasn't that I agreed or disagreed. I was just like, Okay,
Speaker 2: it's a rolling Stone, lest here we go. They chose
Speaker 2: Bambi as number one. That's ridiculous, which I actually I
Speaker 2: don't think is ridiculous. I actually think it's kind of
Speaker 2: like a chic choice because I mean, the animation was
Speaker 2: revolutionary for the time. It's very emotional story like it's
Speaker 2: also like og og Disney, So I kind of got that.
Speaker 2: But then the Lion King wasn't even in the top
Speaker 2: ten see and like the recent Winnie the Pooh was
Speaker 2: no And I'm like rolling Stone, rolling Stone being wrong,
Speaker 2: you gotta stop. Like it was giving Celindia not on
Speaker 2: the list vibes at some point, but at least like
Speaker 2: there was like some respect for in there, for the
Speaker 2: classic like Little Mermaid was ranked very high, and I'm like, yes,
Speaker 2: because Little Mermaid, like at least the songs in the original,
Speaker 2: like you don't ever forget them, Beauty and the Beast,
Speaker 2: that duo, there's something there that's like timeless. And I
Speaker 2: feel like in this Wish song, which I believe is
Speaker 2: called I Wish, I'm not able to like latch onto
Speaker 2: anything about the song because I think it's too crowded
Speaker 2: narratively and like there's nothing we're not aiming for the
Speaker 2: stars in terms of like feeling classic. And yet I
Speaker 2: think Disney has poured in so much into it being
Speaker 2: Disney one hundred, let's really cement the legacy of the
Speaker 2: last century of what we've put out, and like this
Speaker 2: is like they've had a weird year.
Speaker 1: A bad one, They've had a not good year. I
Speaker 1: think that.
Speaker 2: So the thing with Wish is it quote unquote isn't
Speaker 2: succeeding right now at the box office, but it did
Speaker 2: get an a Cinema score, and it's something that could
Speaker 2: play through the holiday. I mean, they said Elemental was
Speaker 2: a flop and then it actually made a lot of money.
Speaker 2: It's now categorized as a sleeper hit, which I didn't
Speaker 2: even know, because I feel like there's so much emphasis
Speaker 2: put on like the opening weekends for things like this.
Speaker 2: But you have to also remember Frozen was a huge
Speaker 2: sleeper phenomenon, like that was not a hugely popular movie
Speaker 2: and it's even its first two weeks, and then as
Speaker 2: kids started to express that they loved it, like then
Speaker 2: it grew so like I feel like there's potential for
Speaker 2: Wish to do well. But here's the thing is, it's
Speaker 2: like you need something that's like a really driving, intangible
Speaker 2: for something like this movie to succeed, and Frozen had
Speaker 2: that with Let It Go and the other songs. The
Speaker 2: songs are not songing on this album. And it's no
Speaker 2: disrespect to Julia Michaels, who I think is a great
Speaker 2: pop songwriter and a great pop artist, but there's something
Speaker 2: that's like not connecting in terms of like you can't
Speaker 2: there's no emotional into these songs and I haven't seen
Speaker 2: them in context.
Speaker 1: I have and seeing the movie.
Speaker 2: But it's just been a weird year because that didn't
Speaker 2: do well and then the Marvels like really didn't do well.
Speaker 2: And I think that Disney's plan going forward is to
Speaker 2: funnel Like I think it's like twenty billion into the
Speaker 2: theme parks. It's all going into the parks, yeah, because
Speaker 2: they're the only real division of Disney that is growing,
Speaker 2: are the parks, because there was like a theme park resurgence.
Speaker 2: And I guess my thing is, like you had a
Speaker 2: lot to do with that, absolutely, But I guess my
Speaker 2: thing is like what happens when the ip all just
Speaker 2: like collapses in on itself, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like the marvel it's so confusing and saturated now that
Speaker 2: I think people didn't go see the Marvels because they
Speaker 2: were like, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Gonna get it.
Speaker 2: No, it's they had an opportunity to like really reset
Speaker 2: it after endgame, Yeah, and they just kept like sizing
Speaker 2: up the bubble and yeah, it was like it was
Speaker 2: impossible to follow. It's unreal how much you'd have to
Speaker 2: consume to truly understand what's happening in any given piece
Speaker 2: of content that's come out from Marble in the past
Speaker 2: two years.
Speaker 1: You tell me, like Jonathan Majors plays King, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: which knows a whole thing? Well, I just think like.
Speaker 2: They've had a lot of bad luck and Destin Daniel
Speaker 2: dropped out of the Next Avengers movie, and he's gonna
Speaker 2: still direct to the shang Hi film. Something's going on
Speaker 2: at Disney, And like, I think the little drips of
Speaker 2: news and announcements lately have been so interesting too, between
Speaker 2: like Inside Out and this whole thing about like oh,
Speaker 2: Toy Story five and Frozen four, it's like, okay, but like,
Speaker 2: just give us a second. I don't know, I just
Speaker 2: I just say they're obsessed with announcements. Yeah, yeah, Like
Speaker 2: they're so obsessed with letting you know what's happening so
Speaker 2: that you know down the road everything, and then you
Speaker 2: look at it and you're like wow, so you're truly
Speaker 2: banking on this regurgitative ip again and again and again
Speaker 2: and again, and then even your original stuff feels derivative,
Speaker 2: Like just on face value, wish feels very isn't it?
Speaker 1: Story of it? I think there might be something to.
Speaker 2: That, like this is the world where like wishes get
Speaker 2: doled out to every little Disney world, you know, or
Speaker 2: something like that.
Speaker 1: I guess I gotta, you know, do my due diligence
Speaker 1: and see it more.
Speaker 2: But like I don't know, Like usually like I'm more excited,
Speaker 2: but I think that there's just something going on where
Speaker 2: every single like big ip for Disney, like Star Wars,
Speaker 2: like Marvel, like even though the Disney princesses and like
Speaker 2: that whole thing, it just feels like it's all kind
Speaker 2: of just like collapsing in on itself, where I guess
Speaker 2: they can put all the money to the theme parks
Speaker 2: because that ip there feels very special and new because
Speaker 2: you're experiencing it, But it's not getting people to elect
Speaker 2: to go to the movies, yes, because it doesn't feel
Speaker 2: like there's not a lot of pull to I feel
Speaker 2: like I've barely even seen Wish promoted. Well he don't
Speaker 2: follow our end of bows on Instagram, I think I do, Oh, okay, well.
Speaker 1: Then you have no excuse.
Speaker 2: It gets like god it talking about Disney like this
Speaker 2: makes me think that Kingdom Hearts really is the perfect
Speaker 2: case study in this because it peaked.
Speaker 1: And then it really fucking fell.
Speaker 2: It really kind of all like burst at the themes in
Speaker 2: a way that was just like what was that all for?
Speaker 2: It's like, let's celebrate all the Disney things and put
Speaker 2: that and like remix it with this new crazy like
Speaker 2: final fantasy element, and like it worked until it immediately
Speaker 2: stopped because there were so many titles. It was impossible
Speaker 2: to keep up with it. Like literally, this is like
Speaker 2: it is a microcosm for what's happening on a larger scaleton.
Speaker 2: This is my theory and I'm actually I'm onto something here.
Speaker 2: Kingdom Hearts, what happened with the Kingdom Heart series? And
Speaker 2: they're making a fourth one whatever, But what happened with
Speaker 2: the Kingdom Heart series is the perfect writ small thing
Speaker 2: of what's happening I think with let's say Disney as
Speaker 2: a whole, it's really interesting, Like it was just so
Speaker 2: convoluted you needed to watch like a twenty five minute
Speaker 2: movie before you could play the third one that came
Speaker 2: out a few years ago. It's just like, at what
Speaker 2: point do we like, Yeah, just like congeal things and
Speaker 2: like make things more digestible. Yeah, because there's a lot
Speaker 2: of asking people to buy into these universes, and the
Speaker 2: universes are just so like I actually read a Wikipedia.
Speaker 2: I read the Wikipedia of the plot of the Marvels,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, what, why can't this just
Speaker 2: be these three ladies kick ass? Why can't this just
Speaker 2: be Mama's slay, Mama's slay. Literally, the Marvels should have
Speaker 2: just been Mama's It would have been so fun. It
Speaker 2: would have been incredibly fun.
Speaker 1: It's like they can only slay in a certain universe,
Speaker 1: because when you slay too hard in universe be universe
Speaker 1: c is not so sligh? Wait, what are those little
Speaker 1: green guys? Aliens? Don't talk to me? I don't. Don't.
Speaker 2: We need a Mama's Slay movie so badly. We need
Speaker 2: this decade's version of Charlie's Angels full throttle. We need
Speaker 2: Mamas Slay the movie. Now, what has been mama slay recently?
Speaker 2: That has been that has poppedlated? Barbie? You said Barbie
Speaker 2: Hays had made a number.
Speaker 1: First of all, describing made a number as mama is
Speaker 1: so dark.
Speaker 2: Barbie is not even Mama's sleigh. I think Barbie is
Speaker 2: Mama's slag. I think Barbie is Mama's all around the
Speaker 2: world's sligh. And that's actually really clad your number one hundred.
Speaker 2: Barbie is Mama's all around the world sligh.
Speaker 1: No, Barbie is the flood not.
Speaker 2: So see that beautiful? It's beautiful and timeless and simple.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Billy, this is my favorite
Speaker 2: Billy lyric. Ever is I don't know how to feel,
Speaker 2: but I want to try. That is the whole movie,
Speaker 2: because I don't know how to feel. She's I don't
Speaker 2: know how to feel. But also she literally doesn't. She's
Speaker 2: a toy. Yeah, but she wants to try.
Speaker 1: My favorite Billie Eilish lyric is guy the talk about
Speaker 1: an artist.
Speaker 2: I love Billy, love Billy, Billy Billy for the pod.
Speaker 2: I think she'd be excellent. I think she would have fun.
Speaker 2: She's good vibes. I just looked at our producer. I said, yeah, Booker,
Speaker 2: look Billy, come on, but just Billy. No, no phineas parents,
Speaker 2: just get her in here.
Speaker 1: Let just Billy.
Speaker 2: We want to talk to Billy and really help her
Speaker 2: figure out her newfound lesbianism.
Speaker 1: Is she lesbian?
Speaker 2: Said that she's attracted to women, but she's intimidated by them, and.
Speaker 1: You think that we could help her figure that out.
Speaker 2: I think we're the perfect strippas to lesbianism. I think
Speaker 2: you said O were the perfect strippers and strippers. I
Speaker 2: think we stripped for her and then she definitely all.
Speaker 1: Right now I know would be gay TAXI.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so fun. She is so stunning as
Speaker 2: an artist. You know, this has been an episode that
Speaker 2: has gotten all sorts of directions.
Speaker 1: I think we really slayed it.
Speaker 2: I think we slayed it. I think this was Mama's sleigh.
Speaker 2: I think we're boob gaye. We're boob gays on both
Speaker 2: sides of the coin where you have the boo bobs.
Speaker 1: If you were woman and I if you were woman,
Speaker 1: you'd be an appreciator.
Speaker 2: If you were fan presenting, you would have boobs here,
Speaker 2: you'd be boob gay in that regard. I'm boob gay
Speaker 2: and the fact that I am purveyor of boobs and
Speaker 2: I appreciate boobs.
Speaker 1: And with this thought we do end every episode of
Speaker 1: the song the food No just fall down, I know,
Speaker 1: but I'm the shore. Now what else ma for?
Speaker 2: What was MA.
Speaker 1: Called bookcase? Enjoy me? I'm sad.
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