Speaker 1: I won't let my body out out everything that I'm made.
Speaker 1: DOT won't spend my life trying to change. I'm learning
Speaker 1: to love who I am. I get I'm strong, I
Speaker 1: feel free, I know who everybody me. It's beautiful. And
Speaker 1: then will always out with if you feel it, with
Speaker 1: yours in the air, She'll some love to the boot there.
Speaker 1: Let's say good day and did you and die out
Speaker 1: hey outweigh fam. Happy Saturday. Amy and Lisa here and
Speaker 1: it's just us, no guests today, but we're gonna be
Speaker 1: going over some really important stuff. But I do want
Speaker 1: to start off with just a little story that went
Speaker 1: down between Lisa and myself this week. Well, I guess
Speaker 1: where it started. Lisa's I was in the pantry and
Speaker 1: I was getting some chips out and realized like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: look at this, Like I have this whole pantry full
Speaker 1: of food and access to this food, and I can
Speaker 1: have it whenever I wanted. And these were tortilla chips.
Speaker 1: I think they maybe were even like siete, and I
Speaker 1: thought back, I had a flashback to oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I remember when I used to put siete chips in
Speaker 1: a food safe to where you could set a timer.
Speaker 1: If you had it, then you couldn't get back into
Speaker 1: that box of food. Really, they sell it for food cigarettes,
Speaker 1: cell phones, like if you have a certain limit where
Speaker 1: you're trying to stay off of something, you can lock
Speaker 1: it away. It was marketed as food to me, and
Speaker 1: even on Amazon they have eminem's in the clear container
Speaker 1: or they have cell phones, so really can be used
Speaker 1: for anything. But we're calling it a food safe because
Speaker 1: it was in my pantry, so it was a food safe.
Speaker 1: And I would lock myself out at the chips for
Speaker 1: twenty four hours because I felt like if I had
Speaker 1: had my quote unquote serving, then I didn't need to
Speaker 1: have them again, and this was a way to ensure
Speaker 1: that I didn't eat them. And I was working with
Speaker 1: a you know, honestly, I don't even know if their
Speaker 1: registered dietitian or what their credentials are, but it was
Speaker 1: someone that I had paid money to to help advise
Speaker 1: me on my eating and that person introduced me to
Speaker 1: a food safe. I never heard of a food safe,
Speaker 1: and looking back, I'm thinking, what in the world. So
Speaker 1: then I text Lisa the food safe and she's thinking, what,
Speaker 1: I've never even heard of this? So is that seriously,
Speaker 1: that's something you've never heard of. I mean, I've heard
Speaker 1: of people doing things like putting maybe locks on their
Speaker 1: own refrigerator so they don't eat at night and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, But I never heard of the term the
Speaker 1: food safe before, and I never heard of like you
Speaker 1: can put your own time limit I guess of when
Speaker 1: you can reopen it. So I'm just curious now I
Speaker 1: feel like we all understand the concept of the food safe.
Speaker 1: What was it like mentally when the box locked for you? Like,
Speaker 1: did it quote unquote work? Did you stop thinking about
Speaker 1: the chips? Did you find another way to get chips?
Speaker 1: Did you wait until that twenty four hours was up
Speaker 1: and then run back to that same bag of chips
Speaker 1: that was in the safe? Well, I mean I think
Speaker 1: in a way it did a job because I wouldn't
Speaker 1: eat the whole bag, and that's what I was trying
Speaker 1: to avoid, was eating the whole bag or eating too
Speaker 1: much in one day. I know, it just continued the
Speaker 1: obsession and the addiction to this and I couldn't lock
Speaker 1: away everything. Well that's my question to do. Okay, so
Speaker 1: now the chips are locked up, is it like okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you know, forage for something else. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I had not done the work to reset my brain
Speaker 1: as to why I kept going in for more and
Speaker 1: more and more, And that took a lot of work
Speaker 1: and read like I read several books, had to unlearned
Speaker 1: like a lot of things, but constantly, Like here's what
Speaker 1: a brain over binge taught me. In my binges and
Speaker 1: where I would go, I would go to the pantry
Speaker 1: and have to like stop and walk away. And once
Speaker 1: I walked away enough, I started to unlearn some of
Speaker 1: the stuff because I was in Also, I was no
Speaker 1: longer restricting, so then my body was like, oh cool,
Speaker 1: like I actually have fuel. So if you keep telling
Speaker 1: your brain no and walking away, then that gets easier
Speaker 1: the more times I did it. So anyway, I when
Speaker 1: I had the food safe, I was still living in
Speaker 1: such a place of restriction. So my body was craving
Speaker 1: food and I was denying it on all kinds of levels,
Speaker 1: including walking my food away. Yeah. I mean for myself
Speaker 1: and clients that I've worked with, it's like even when
Speaker 1: we say okay, I'm not going to have this food,
Speaker 1: we jump to the next food, and oftentimes we do
Speaker 1: what's called like food chasing, almost where we just keep
Speaker 1: chasing after eating and we just keep changing what it is. Okay,
Speaker 1: so now we're not having the chips, but now we've
Speaker 1: moved on to popcorn. Okay, now I've had salty. Let
Speaker 1: me move on to sweet, let me move on to
Speaker 1: head sweet, let me move back on to salty. And
Speaker 1: it becomes this whole thing where at the end of it,
Speaker 1: you just feel really uncomfortable physically and emotionally. You know,
Speaker 1: you're consumed with guilt, You're frustrated. You don't know why
Speaker 1: you're like this, because I mean, I know when I've
Speaker 1: been in those situations, Amy, I don't know about you.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know you had the food safe at
Speaker 1: the moment, But when I've been in any of those situations,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm possessed, Like you can't stop me
Speaker 1: from getting that food, whether it's ordering a food online
Speaker 1: or going very far out of my way to get it,
Speaker 1: or just eating anything that's almost available. And it's so
Speaker 1: interesting because never did I think that at that time,
Speaker 1: and I think you too, that the inner work could
Speaker 1: change your relationship to all these foods, like we thought
Speaker 1: that it was the foods. Let me lock them up
Speaker 1: for me, I did things like trying to suppress my appetite,
Speaker 1: Like I thought I was the problem. You thought you
Speaker 1: were the problem, so you tried to control yourself or
Speaker 1: the things that were impeding you from feeling like you
Speaker 1: could just be a normal person who just eats chips,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I didn't trust myself. Like at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I didn't know how to listen
Speaker 1: to my body's cues. I didn't have my body probably
Speaker 1: quite literally was trying to communicate to me in my
Speaker 1: brain like we're hungry. We're actually are starving even though
Speaker 1: you're feeding us so much. Uh sometimes, but I had
Speaker 1: so many bouts of restriction as well that I never
Speaker 1: knew how to accurately read what in the world was
Speaker 1: going on. Yeah, and I think that like a lot
Speaker 1: of everybody here listening, like take a moment to think
Speaker 1: about what's one food that you feel like you just
Speaker 1: can't keep in the house. I feel like everybody kind
Speaker 1: of has that one food that they can't keep in
Speaker 1: the house that they won't buy. If they do buy,
Speaker 1: they might do things like eat a few and then
Speaker 1: actually throw out the rest of them because it's just
Speaker 1: they can't be controlled. Or they might go ahead and
Speaker 1: make the healthier version of the thing that they can't
Speaker 1: have because this food has proven to them so many
Speaker 1: times that they're out of control with it. For me,
Speaker 1: that was chocolate covered almonds. I did not think that
Speaker 1: I could be do a handful of chocolate covered almonds,
Speaker 1: because whenever I had the almonds, I had all of
Speaker 1: the almonds. And that's one of the foods that I
Speaker 1: really still enjoyed to this day. And I find it
Speaker 1: so interesting that I have a few and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: this this is good, and i put the rest back,
Speaker 1: and sometimes the almonds will sit there for a month,
Speaker 1: two months, you know. And not because I locked them up,
Speaker 1: and not because I said I could only have three
Speaker 1: a day, and not for any other reason other than
Speaker 1: I made peace with them. I stopped demonizing them. I
Speaker 1: allowed myself to actually trust them. And then on top
Speaker 1: of just the almonds, I eat enough regularly and have
Speaker 1: well balanced so I'm not turning to the almonds like
Speaker 1: by the point where I have no calories or energy
Speaker 1: left in me that all I can do is kind
Speaker 1: of gobble them all up, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of foods that are on that
Speaker 1: list now anything is welcome in my home. But probably
Speaker 1: the most recent example, like literally in my freezer right
Speaker 1: now is Girl scott Cookies thin Mints, and I love
Speaker 1: keeping them in the freezer, but if Girl Scout cookie
Speaker 1: season came around, I was always terrified because I'm like, oh, great,
Speaker 1: now I'm going to get a box at thin Mints
Speaker 1: and I'm going to have to eat the whole thing
Speaker 1: or I'm going to take a few and have to
Speaker 1: throw the rest out, because again I don't trust myself.
Speaker 1: And now I share this, and Lisa, you share this too,
Speaker 1: as hope not to be like, heyy look at us.
Speaker 1: We can keep this food in our house, but that
Speaker 1: you can get there, because I used to be so
Speaker 1: envious of people that could do that, like buy a
Speaker 1: box of Girl Scout cookies and not eat at all
Speaker 1: the day you bought them, or not have to throw
Speaker 1: them out. And so I am walking testimony to the
Speaker 1: fact that I've got the thin Mints in my freezer
Speaker 1: and there are days I don't even think about them
Speaker 1: in there. And I opened it up and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's the thin mints, and I get whatever else I needed,
Speaker 1: and I closed the door and then eventually, if I
Speaker 1: want one, I eat it. If not, I don't. So
Speaker 1: it's so fascinating though, because I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody listening is probably like, oh, I want to get
Speaker 1: to that place. I want to get to that place
Speaker 1: where I can have the thin mint in my house,
Speaker 1: the chocolate covered almonds. I've had clients say that they
Speaker 1: can't keep dried mango in the house. I mean, it
Speaker 1: could be any food that you just tear through. It
Speaker 1: does not need to be, you know, any type of
Speaker 1: indulgent type thing. Yeah, it does not need to be
Speaker 1: an indulgent type food. It could literally be a piece
Speaker 1: of dried fruit. It could be raisins. You know. Overall,
Speaker 1: I care. And the one thing that I will say
Speaker 1: about my own quote unquote arrival or my AHA moment,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you feel this way, is
Speaker 1: that wasn't the goal. I didn't go after the goal
Speaker 1: of fixing my relationship to food so that I could
Speaker 1: keep chocolate covered almonds in the house. I did the
Speaker 1: inner work so that I could have inner peace, and
Speaker 1: a side effect one day was walking into the almonds
Speaker 1: and realizing that I bought them a month ago and
Speaker 1: I was still working through them, not because I restricted,
Speaker 1: not because I allowed myself to have a certain amount,
Speaker 1: but because they were just almonds and they were just
Speaker 1: there and there was no big deal to have them
Speaker 1: at that point. I don't know if you had that
Speaker 1: type of same journey, Amy, or if you's kind of
Speaker 1: as always like, well, I just want to you know.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit of both. That the
Speaker 1: chaos you feel inside when you're dealing any type of
Speaker 1: addiction or disorder or something that's going on where you
Speaker 1: clearly have an unhealthy relationship with X y Z. You
Speaker 1: feel chaotic, you don't feel calm, You're in a constant
Speaker 1: state of like goo goo Google, Like your brain is
Speaker 1: just spinning with all of these thoughts. We've talked before
Speaker 1: about the freedom that you get just even in your brain,
Speaker 1: and I think that that's where, um that the space
Speaker 1: that we take up when we're obsessing over certain things
Speaker 1: that don't matter, then it frees you up to really
Speaker 1: take in things that matter. And for me, I wanted
Speaker 1: to put in the work because I wanted to be
Speaker 1: able to have the bandwidth for that. I no longer
Speaker 1: wanted to waste all of this space and energy on
Speaker 1: something that did nothing for me. I mean maybe in
Speaker 1: the moments where I was almost like an out of
Speaker 1: body experience. I had this temporary like high of assorts,
Speaker 1: but that was fleeting super quick, and so then I
Speaker 1: was left with what And those are just in the
Speaker 1: moments where you know, I was eating and maybe having
Speaker 1: negative thoughts or different things that were going on, but
Speaker 1: those thoughts And you've spoken to this too, like you
Speaker 1: would lay your head down at night thinking about it,
Speaker 1: you would wake up in the morning thinking about it.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, just the peace. It was so busy,
Speaker 1: It was so just busy. You know, you said the
Speaker 1: word calm, and I think that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 1: On March one, so on Sunday, I'm kicking off the
Speaker 1: next session of for the Noise Hungerfulness. And I spent
Speaker 1: two years working on this course, and it really boils
Speaker 1: down to helping to take people from mind body disconnection
Speaker 1: back to connection. And when we're in that disconnected space,
Speaker 1: it's like we can't read our bodies, we don't trust ourselves.
Speaker 1: We are so busy trying to figure out what we
Speaker 1: need to do to make up for eating this, that
Speaker 1: we're buying food safes, that we're just so busy trying
Speaker 1: to control from the exterior that we've lost that inner
Speaker 1: connection that all of us are born with. And last
Speaker 1: year I got so nerdy and into the research when
Speaker 1: I started to look into something called inter reception. So
Speaker 1: it's a big word. And what I love about this
Speaker 1: is that we have a sense in our body called
Speaker 1: inter reception, and it's how our bodies communicate exactly what
Speaker 1: they need, and it's how our brain represents exactly what's
Speaker 1: happening in our body. So the body and brain are
Speaker 1: just like constantly communicating, and the bodies communicating with the
Speaker 1: brain what it needs, and then the brain lets us
Speaker 1: know what to do to assist in it. So an
Speaker 1: easy example of this being intact would be when you
Speaker 1: have to urinate. You know, you go to the bathroom
Speaker 1: when you are cold, you get a jacket. Right. But
Speaker 1: when it comes to things like food, Oh I want
Speaker 1: this food or I'm hungry, we have so much noise
Speaker 1: that infiltrated the way of letting us know that we
Speaker 1: shouldn't feel hungry, that hunger is a bad thing, that
Speaker 1: eating is a bad thing, that eating eating certain foods
Speaker 1: at certain times and certain amounts are a bad thing.
Speaker 1: That we've become disconnected to that queue and now we're
Speaker 1: kind of left in this place of like, well, I
Speaker 1: don't know how to listen to my body. You know,
Speaker 1: I think all of our listeners would agree or or say,
Speaker 1: I want to get there, but I don't know how
Speaker 1: to get there. And that's so scary because how how
Speaker 1: do you get there? How do you take those next
Speaker 1: steps besides for listening to podcasts, reading books? You know,
Speaker 1: how do you reform that trust in your body when
Speaker 1: everything you've learned and picked up along the way has
Speaker 1: been sent to disrupt it when it comes to food?
Speaker 1: And so is this course? And I'm I'm speaking as
Speaker 1: someone who has taken Lisa's courses and highly benefited from them.
Speaker 1: Lisa is a huge part of why I am where
Speaker 1: I am, and I found her on Instagram, so I'm
Speaker 1: beyond thankful they're at the time. I'll frame it like
Speaker 1: a puzzle, because I'm really into puzzles now. But I
Speaker 1: had maybe this little, a little, teeny tiny puzzle, but
Speaker 1: there were several different pieces to the puzzle that I needed,
Speaker 1: and Lisa and her courses were one of them. And
Speaker 1: so is that something that you unpack in the course obviously,
Speaker 1: like what can we expect? Yeah, So, I mean all
Speaker 1: of my courses and all of the work that I
Speaker 1: do in this world when it comes to food, and
Speaker 1: just like life has to come down to coming back
Speaker 1: home to our bodies and allowing ourselves to experience body awareness.
Speaker 1: Our bodies are sending us information all the time, whether
Speaker 1: it's about our emotions or are how cold we are
Speaker 1: or how hungry we are, or whatever it is that
Speaker 1: we need the body is, or we're anxious, or you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's sending us communication signals. But there's
Speaker 1: so much going on exterior wise or coming from the
Speaker 1: outside coming in that we're really numb to that beautiful
Speaker 1: connection that's intact. And so mindfulness is kind of the
Speaker 1: key to all of my work and what I found
Speaker 1: fascinating when I started to learn about inter reception because
Speaker 1: as soon as I was like, wait a minute, this
Speaker 1: is something we all have. There's research to prove this stuff.
Speaker 1: This there's a part of our brain called the insula
Speaker 1: cortex that specifically controls our inter receptive awareness. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: I can get people to believe that they can do this,
Speaker 1: and believing that they can do this is kind of
Speaker 1: the first step I think of knowing that there's that
Speaker 1: hope that you talked about, right, like, your body is
Speaker 1: meant to do this stuff. Let's just take it back
Speaker 1: to the basics. And so I very quickly found that
Speaker 1: when it comes to inter receptive awareness and being able
Speaker 1: to understand our bodies, the best way to improve that
Speaker 1: is through mindfulness practices, by meditation, by stillness, by being
Speaker 1: non judging to our emotions and our sensations, by being nonreactive. Right,
Speaker 1: buying the food safe is reactive amy Right, like me
Speaker 1: going on a diet on Monday because I ate blah
Speaker 1: blah blah is reactive. Okay, But I will say I again,
Speaker 1: I was given this information from somebody that I trusted,
Speaker 1: and I feel like a lot of us when if
Speaker 1: listeners now may be like, well, wait a second, I'm
Speaker 1: I'd be doing X, Y and Z. But somebody that
Speaker 1: I look up to in quote unquote health and nutrition
Speaker 1: told me to do X, Y and Z. So now
Speaker 1: I know how to to separate the noise. I guess,
Speaker 1: I would say, because there are a lot of really
Speaker 1: awesome people, but giving information that would counter exactly what
Speaker 1: we're trying to do here, and by society standards, they're
Speaker 1: not doing anything wrong. So I would just say, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I wanted to interject this, but
Speaker 1: that the noise can even come from really respectable people
Speaker 1: that don't mean any harm. So the noise I had
Speaker 1: to shut out was from myself, but also from people
Speaker 1: that are you know, looked to for advice on how
Speaker 1: to care for their bodies, and then at the same
Speaker 1: time it was doing me such damage. Well, I think fortunately,
Speaker 1: I know this was a number of years ago with
Speaker 1: the food safe you know, the words disordered eating didn't exist,
Speaker 1: and in the absence of talking about this stuff all
Speaker 1: the time, a lot of practitioners weren't trained to know
Speaker 1: what disordered eating was. It wasn't brought to the attention,
Speaker 1: and so by trying to help you with what you
Speaker 1: came as your problem portions or not being able to
Speaker 1: control yourself, she offered the quote unquote solution. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's plenty of people that would say that that's you know,
Speaker 1: still fine, but you have to dig deeper. And that's
Speaker 1: what I love about this is this isn't a band aid.
Speaker 1: This is more of like going in for surgery. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean it's really about, you know what, It's called
Speaker 1: hunger and fullness. But even that is an oversimplification of
Speaker 1: what this course is. I think most people that hear
Speaker 1: the name forth the noise hungerfulness, I think that it's
Speaker 1: going to be okay. Well, if I could just listen
Speaker 1: to my hunger and listen to my fullness, then everything
Speaker 1: would be easy. My problem is is that I overeat.
Speaker 1: I hear this one all the time. I don't know, lately,
Speaker 1: I've been hearing it more often than I restrict. I've
Speaker 1: been hearing of Oh, restriction isn't my problem, Lea. So
Speaker 1: you talk about that all the time over eating is
Speaker 1: my problem. But then when we break down why they overeat,
Speaker 1: it's actually because of restriction. It might be restriction in
Speaker 1: a different way than you had it amy, which is
Speaker 1: different than the way I restricted. So the way that
Speaker 1: I used to restrict was with saying what foods that
Speaker 1: I specifically could eat at what times, by um staving
Speaker 1: off hunger as long as I could, because I viewed
Speaker 1: hunger and feeling it almost as like powerful and it's
Speaker 1: a little bit sick and twisted, but you know, you
Speaker 1: can kind of relate in some way and I thought
Speaker 1: that once I started eating, I wouldn't be able to stop.
Speaker 1: And I proved that to myself every single time, because
Speaker 1: I'd find myself going into meal so hungry that I
Speaker 1: was not selective about what I'd eat. I ate food
Speaker 1: so freaking fast, like it was always like shovel into
Speaker 1: the mouth, and I was always scared I did this.
Speaker 1: Was so unconscious by the way that I didn't know
Speaker 1: when my next meal would be because I was always
Speaker 1: trying to get back to that place of Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna eat till I'm really really hungry. That it
Speaker 1: was like my window of opportunity to eat. But I
Speaker 1: never thought, oh, maybe you should change how you go
Speaker 1: into the meal differently. I thought, oh, I just need
Speaker 1: to control what I eat, if that makes sense. So
Speaker 1: this course isn't just about learning the gentle cues of Oh,
Speaker 1: this is what an appropriate level of hunger should feel
Speaker 1: like when you start a meal. Your blood sugar shouldn't
Speaker 1: be dropped to the floor. You shouldn't feel like you're dizzy,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be lightheaded, you shouldn't be cranky. In fact,
Speaker 1: it should be just a very undramatic drop in your
Speaker 1: blood sugar before you reach for something to eat. Most
Speaker 1: of the time, of course, there are situations where you know,
Speaker 1: we get a little bit more low and we're not
Speaker 1: as focused on on food. But the other thing that
Speaker 1: this course really hopes to disrupt is this idea that
Speaker 1: the only time we're allowed to eat is because we're
Speaker 1: physically hungry, so that you know, as human beings, I
Speaker 1: think that we just need to recognize that we eat
Speaker 1: for a million and one different reasons. And I call
Speaker 1: these things different types of hunger because all the word
Speaker 1: hunger means is a motivation to eat. And sometimes we
Speaker 1: eat things like chips right when we're not physically hungry.
Speaker 1: So maybe we already had our turkey sandwich for lunch
Speaker 1: and an apple and maybe popcorn, but there's something about
Speaker 1: chips that still sounds good. Right. Most people would say, oh,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have eaten those I wasn't hungry. But when
Speaker 1: we expand the definition to include something like I include
Speaker 1: eleven types of hunger in this course to start thinking
Speaker 1: about like mouth hunger. Your mouth just wants a chip, right,
Speaker 1: it sounds really good. It makes you salvate, or maybe
Speaker 1: it's a brownie. If you're not a salty person right now,
Speaker 1: I'm pregnant and all about the chips and the salty.
Speaker 1: So that's just where my head's at right now. But
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, are the sweet tooth
Speaker 1: person when it comes to mouth hunger. Oh I want
Speaker 1: that donut, I can't have it. I already ate. When
Speaker 1: you give yourself permission, I call it the power of
Speaker 1: permission to eat because of mouth hunger or because of
Speaker 1: bonding hunger is another one, you and Stashira sharing what's
Speaker 1: the food that you recently had together, like for fun,
Speaker 1: peanut eminem's, peanut eminem's right, Like, you probably didn't have
Speaker 1: the peanut eminem's as your dinner. Maybe you weren't even
Speaker 1: craving them. It wasn't even mouth hunger where they sounded
Speaker 1: so amazing. But it was an opportunity to bond with
Speaker 1: Stashira as well as you do something really important for
Speaker 1: setting the tone of food in your home. So that
Speaker 1: is a reason to eat, right Can you imagine he said,
Speaker 1: Oh I can't have those peanut eminem's. I already ate, right,
Speaker 1: which I have done before early on, like h for
Speaker 1: anybody that's new, I adopted my kids, uh, and they
Speaker 1: were older. Sashia arrived here when she was tin from Haiti,
Speaker 1: and I had such strict food rules then and now
Speaker 1: she's almost fourteen and are my relationship with food is
Speaker 1: very different. Therefore my relationship around food and her and
Speaker 1: things that I eat with her. And because of her,
Speaker 1: she also got this what is that Japanese ice cream mochi?
Speaker 1: So she loves mochi and she loves the mango one
Speaker 1: and she's like, Mom, let's have some mochi. And so
Speaker 1: we get out of the freezer and we cut one
Speaker 1: and half and we have it together. And that's something
Speaker 1: I literally would not have been able to enjoy with her.
Speaker 1: And yeah, same thing with the peanut eminem's. We went
Speaker 1: to the gas station. There was a bag that says,
Speaker 1: you know, like tear and share or whatever. She's like, Mom,
Speaker 1: let's tear share. That's a moment. That's a thing. No,
Speaker 1: I wasn't hungry, but was it cool to be able
Speaker 1: to do that with her and not you know, completely
Speaker 1: stress out about it. And I'll just correct you to
Speaker 1: say you weren't physically hungry, right, there was a motivation
Speaker 1: to consume them, right, Yeah, Like I need to learn
Speaker 1: these leaven hungers. Well, you know, you're kind of at
Speaker 1: a level where it's coming very naturally to you, and
Speaker 1: I'm at the place where it's naturally to me as well.
Speaker 1: Every time I want to eat something, I'm not, oh,
Speaker 1: what type of hunger is this? To give myself permission.
Speaker 1: But in the beginning, when we're so wrapped up in
Speaker 1: oh I should do this, I shouldn't do this. I
Speaker 1: can't believe I did this, that whole negative thought cycle
Speaker 1: around food. We can elevate our consciousness, which basically just means, hey,
Speaker 1: get present, get out of your head and into your
Speaker 1: body and say why do I want this? I want
Speaker 1: this because, oh, this food reminds me of my grandma
Speaker 1: and I miss her today. This that's memory hunger, I
Speaker 1: call it. You know, I'm doing this with Tashira. Was
Speaker 1: social bonding hunger. You know, there's so many other type
Speaker 1: but those are just some examples of I don't want
Speaker 1: anybody to sign up for this course thinking that it's
Speaker 1: just about learning to tune into those sensations of hunger
Speaker 1: and stop when you're full because you want to lose weight.
Speaker 1: We don't do this course because we want to lose weight.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people's weights do change. I get that as feedback.
Speaker 1: It's not something that I'm looking to. You know, use
Speaker 1: to talk about this program, but some people will say
Speaker 1: I actually did end up losing weight because my relationship
Speaker 1: to food is really peaceful now and I'm ending meals
Speaker 1: at a comfortable place because I'm going in at a
Speaker 1: comfortable place, and so I care far more about the
Speaker 1: inner piece that people are finding rather than, you know,
Speaker 1: the typical ways that we quantify success. So like a
Speaker 1: program like this, Lisa, what can people expect the time
Speaker 1: commitment to be? So this is actually my third time
Speaker 1: running it, second time in one. We just wrapped up
Speaker 1: the last course and it was super successful and I
Speaker 1: personally just love the because I get to see some
Speaker 1: of your faces. It's a six week program, so each
Speaker 1: week for six weeks, a new module is dropped. So
Speaker 1: when we kick off on March twenty one, on Sunday,
Speaker 1: your first module is going to be released. You'll get
Speaker 1: your module, which has prerecorded video lessons, and then some
Speaker 1: of the modules have some extra things like a meditation
Speaker 1: or some homework or a worksheet for you to pretty
Speaker 1: much work through over the course of this week. And
Speaker 1: each week we kind of moved together as a group.
Speaker 1: You also get access to a Facebook group, and if
Speaker 1: you do the V I P option, which I so
Speaker 1: hope you will, you not just get access to this
Speaker 1: material forever, but you also come to live calls that
Speaker 1: happened three times over the course of the program, and
Speaker 1: that means we're going to be face to face, just
Speaker 1: like me and Amy are face to face right now
Speaker 1: on Zoom as a group, and we really dive into
Speaker 1: the material in a way where I can further explain it,
Speaker 1: make sure you understand it, answer questions related to the material,
Speaker 1: but also address the things that are happening in real
Speaker 1: life and how to put them into context use in
Speaker 1: your life. And that's kind of the benefit for me.
Speaker 1: But I will say that the people that come to
Speaker 1: the live calls get the most out of the program
Speaker 1: in general. And I just want to say and that
Speaker 1: Lisa doesn't even know that I'm gonna probably doesn't want
Speaker 1: me to hear like hyping her up, because in no
Speaker 1: way is out a way a place where we're like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: now you need to take this course or sign up
Speaker 1: for that. But Lisa has these programs that she has
Speaker 1: poured her life into, like this is your work, this
Speaker 1: is what you are passionate about, and you create this
Speaker 1: to help others. And I just want to pump you
Speaker 1: up for a little bit because I, again have benefited
Speaker 1: from the course and I want you listening to know
Speaker 1: that making an investment in yourself is okay. And some
Speaker 1: of you might be thinking like, oh, I don't really
Speaker 1: know if I even have the time for that or
Speaker 1: if I have the resources. Well, if you don't, then
Speaker 1: just continue showing up where you can, continue listening to podcasts,
Speaker 1: maybe if you're doing therapy or doing whatever it is
Speaker 1: that you're doing, to show up for yourself so that
Speaker 1: you can be working towards this. But I will say
Speaker 1: that I didn't get to where I am without carving
Speaker 1: out the space to put in the work. And what
Speaker 1: was funny was I would always carve out space for
Speaker 1: a workout, right, Like I had no issue paying for
Speaker 1: a gym membership or yoga classes or whatever I wanted
Speaker 1: to spend money on to work out I would do
Speaker 1: and I would carve out that time as well. And
Speaker 1: it was interesting to see my perspective shift and think,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have time for something like this,
Speaker 1: and then start to replace my workouts with watching one
Speaker 1: of Lisa's videos or doing a workbook. I mean, I,
Speaker 1: like I said, of mine, is a puzzle piece. I
Speaker 1: had a few different puzzle pieces in Lisa's Instagram and
Speaker 1: curriculum and encouragement and wisdom was a puzzle piece for me.
Speaker 1: But I had other workbooks that I did, I had
Speaker 1: other online stuff that I was invested in, but it
Speaker 1: was over a couple of years. But I had to
Speaker 1: make that a priority for myself. And so I'll stop
Speaker 1: rambling just to say that Lisa is amazing and she
Speaker 1: presents things in a way that help you really understand it.
Speaker 1: And if you do have the ability to take this
Speaker 1: course and invest the time and make you a priority,
Speaker 1: I promise you're going to come out on the other
Speaker 1: side and part of your puzzle, you'll have another piece
Speaker 1: put in place, and you'll be headed towards where I
Speaker 1: would say I am now and I'm I'm excited, I
Speaker 1: get to say, and I'm not. I'm still I still
Speaker 1: feel like I'm on a journey and I'm still learning,
Speaker 1: but I do feel like I'm a little bit more complete.
Speaker 1: And I know we have a lot of listeners that
Speaker 1: want to be there, but I don't want to say
Speaker 1: you're just going to get there by not investing in
Speaker 1: yourself in any way, whatever that looks like for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I mean there's a few things that I want
Speaker 1: to say out the door. I mean, just to address price,
Speaker 1: because I know that's always kind of a thing. First
Speaker 1: of all, outway listeners are getting fifteen percent off, and
Speaker 1: your code is outweigh HF at checkout, and I'll put
Speaker 1: all this in the show notes, but it's fork the
Speaker 1: Noise dot Com forward slash h F as in Hungerfulness
Speaker 1: for the Noise dot Com Forward slash h F, and
Speaker 1: then your discount code is going to be outweigh HF.
Speaker 1: That's going to be fifteen percent off. The second thing
Speaker 1: I do want to say is that I really work
Speaker 1: hard to make my courses affordable. That has been noticed
Speaker 1: by people in the past that what I put into
Speaker 1: them in no way reflects what you're going to get.
Speaker 1: And that's because I am really passionate about helping as
Speaker 1: many people as I possibly can. For reference, usually courses
Speaker 1: of this type are three to four, maybe five times
Speaker 1: the price. But for me, I'm here to do this
Speaker 1: work for a long time and impact hopefully a lot
Speaker 1: of people. And this is a program where I really
Speaker 1: don't like to do any sort of self promotion. It's
Speaker 1: just kind of uncomfortable for me. But I am really
Speaker 1: proud of this program, especially after seeing it come to
Speaker 1: life with the students who have taken it and watching
Speaker 1: them really make huge strides in their life. I really
Speaker 1: believe in this program and this work, And from a
Speaker 1: personal level, I can tell you that when I started
Speaker 1: to really understand the sensations in my body, make peace
Speaker 1: with hunger, get to know feelings of fullness, trust that
Speaker 1: if I want more later, I can always have it
Speaker 1: really break down so much of what I built up
Speaker 1: in terms of that control that we talked about here,
Speaker 1: life got easier. And I think that we try so
Speaker 1: hard to control ourselves with these exterior things that we
Speaker 1: don't just control ourselves. We put ourselves in captivity of
Speaker 1: our own bodies, and when we let go of the
Speaker 1: controls that we think are going to keep us in place,
Speaker 1: only then do we find freedom. And the freedom feels
Speaker 1: like control, but it's not that tight, rigid control we
Speaker 1: were trying to put ourselves in a box. Or when
Speaker 1: we use the food safe or whatever, you know, silly
Speaker 1: kind of things you've done in the past to try
Speaker 1: and solve that surface level problem. We're getting to the
Speaker 1: root underneath, and we're coming back to mind body connection
Speaker 1: and it's not just about the food with this stuff.
Speaker 1: When we have the ability to connect with these parts
Speaker 1: of our bodies that are helping us communicate our needs,
Speaker 1: we not only become our own best caretakers. So we're
Speaker 1: nourishing ourselves and we're energized, and we're feeling good, and
Speaker 1: we're eating really nourishing foods too because that feels good.
Speaker 1: But we're also better able to make decisions in our
Speaker 1: life when it comes to career and relationships and boundaries
Speaker 1: and all these things that we've been too worried to
Speaker 1: do so because we just wanted to please other people.
Speaker 1: So I think my favorite part of just doing this
Speaker 1: work in general is the fact that when we start
Speaker 1: with the food, it bleeds into life. And that's what
Speaker 1: this is really about, making your life a little bit
Speaker 1: more peaceful, a little bit more joyful, and a little
Speaker 1: bit more better, recognizing that it's not easy. I love
Speaker 1: that you use the word captivity and then just to
Speaker 1: put a bow on it back to yeah, my my
Speaker 1: food safe. I might have been locking up my chips,
Speaker 1: but I was really just locking up myself. The food
Speaker 1: safe is just your example. Amy. I had a one
Speaker 1: on one call with a student after we wrapped up
Speaker 1: who just wanted to talk about some things. And on
Speaker 1: our last live call, she was a v I P student.
Speaker 1: She said, I'm I'm still using my Fitness Pal that
Speaker 1: you know, like a calorie tracking app, and I'm just
Speaker 1: really afraid to leave it. And I could hear from
Speaker 1: the way she spoke that she was actually ready to
Speaker 1: step away, but she needed a little bit encouragement. And
Speaker 1: I felt that if I gave her the push, she
Speaker 1: would want to do that. She just needed somebody to
Speaker 1: tell her it's okay. And so this was a few
Speaker 1: weeks after she had let go of it, and she said, Lisa,
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, and this is a little
Speaker 1: bit of a loaded conversation. It's not gonna be all positive.
Speaker 1: Everybody listening, She said, Lisa, I am feeling so much
Speaker 1: more peaceful. I have not binged in three weeks. I'm
Speaker 1: eating more nourishing foods than ever, my plate is balanced,
Speaker 1: I have energy, I feel amazing. But I have to
Speaker 1: tell you I went to the doctor yesterday and they
Speaker 1: weighed me, and I weighed the exact same, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, I feel like I haven't made any progress,
Speaker 1: and what's this worth? And we had a conversation about this,
Speaker 1: and I'm just going to call her Brianna for the
Speaker 1: sake of the story. But I said, Brianna, how do
Speaker 1: you track progress? If I asked you three weeks ago,
Speaker 1: what does progress mean to you, she would have said, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to feel good in my body.
Speaker 1: I want to eat nourishing food, so I don't want
Speaker 1: to binge. And I said, well, did you accomplish those things?
Speaker 1: And she said yes? And I said, so, how could
Speaker 1: you say that you haven't made any progress? And she said, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess you're right. I was just chalking all my
Speaker 1: progress up to you know, wait. And it just told
Speaker 1: so much about how we've been told to view what
Speaker 1: eating should do for our bodies. And that metric about
Speaker 1: her weight told us nothing about her true health, first
Speaker 1: of all, nothing about her true happiness. And that weight
Speaker 1: could also be the appropriate weight for her at this time.
Speaker 1: So for anybody listening, whether you take this course or not,
Speaker 1: I just really think it's an important exercise to right
Speaker 1: now take out an index card and make a list
Speaker 1: of all the things that you call progress. What do
Speaker 1: you want in your life? For Amy, I think you
Speaker 1: would have said, I want to be able to have
Speaker 1: a bag of peanuts with my daughter and not overthink it,
Speaker 1: or have a birthday cake or whatever. You know, whatever
Speaker 1: it is for you, I just know that Amy gave
Speaker 1: that example on this talk. Maybe it's that you don't
Speaker 1: want to binge and you want to be able to
Speaker 1: just enjoy foods and feel good and make nourishing choices.
Speaker 1: Maybe weight is even on that progress report for you
Speaker 1: because it's your progress report. However, you want to assess
Speaker 1: your progress right now, make a list, okay, and then
Speaker 1: in two weeks, let's revisit this. And if you are
Speaker 1: tracking your weight, you haven't moved away, feel free to
Speaker 1: put your weight on there. And then I want you
Speaker 1: to tally up your score. And so rather than feeling
Speaker 1: like you got a zero at the end of the
Speaker 1: month or the week, because let's say your weight was
Speaker 1: unchanged or it went up, which you might not view
Speaker 1: as a good thing, can you take into consideration the
Speaker 1: other amazing things that you've learned along the way and
Speaker 1: recognize that your g p A, so to speak, is
Speaker 1: really more like a three point five. Maybe it's not
Speaker 1: a four point oh in your eyes today, but you
Speaker 1: have a plenty of progress that should go out the
Speaker 1: window just because your weight has gone unchanged. I love that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's helpful, but we did that
Speaker 1: with my students this week who weren't in that call,
Speaker 1: and I just think it's it's very easy how quick
Speaker 1: our brains get clouded with old ideas unless we kind
Speaker 1: of zoom out and remember the big picture, which is
Speaker 1: so hard to do when we go into that fearful
Speaker 1: mode of oh, my weight is creeping up on me,
Speaker 1: or it's getting worse and I already gained from the
Speaker 1: pandemic and all these things that we talk about all
Speaker 1: the time. And I don't want to minimize anybody's fear
Speaker 1: or say that that's not important. How you feel in
Speaker 1: your body is a percent important, but how you feel
Speaker 1: in your life is really important too, and we gotta
Speaker 1: start there. That's huge, Like, that's yeah. I think that
Speaker 1: a lot of people might give themselves and f right
Speaker 1: away just based on the weight. And I'll just throw
Speaker 1: in quickly too before we wrap that, Lisa was you
Speaker 1: used quote unquote Brianna's uh my fitness power And I
Speaker 1: know that that's that's a real story with a client
Speaker 1: and you just made up her name, but you know
Speaker 1: you helped me get off my Fitness pal so you
Speaker 1: were part of me letting go of that. And very similarly,
Speaker 1: I remember texting you one night, probably one of the
Speaker 1: first nights I didn't enter in my food, and it's
Speaker 1: almost like I couldn't even go to sleep because I
Speaker 1: had no idea what my intake was that day, and
Speaker 1: I didn't know how I was going to sleep and
Speaker 1: then wake up the next morning. And it took me
Speaker 1: a few weeks to really finally settle. But I remember
Speaker 1: seeing a picture of myself about a weekend to deleting
Speaker 1: the app, and I thought in my head that I
Speaker 1: looked bigger, and I sent you the picture and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know you wanted me to delete my Fitness Palm,
Speaker 1: Well but look at me, I'm bigger and you just
Speaker 1: said you were fly back Amy. I honestly, if you
Speaker 1: were to shown me this picture last week, you look
Speaker 1: the same. You look the same. But even if I
Speaker 1: did look bigger forsake of this conversation. Does that really matter?
Speaker 1: Because I finally had a little bit of freedom. I
Speaker 1: wasn't shackled to this app on my phone, um causing
Speaker 1: me to enter in every single thing that I put
Speaker 1: in my body. And that was a time suck and
Speaker 1: a fun suck and a that's the captivity. That's the
Speaker 1: captivity right under the guy's control. I'll just use the
Speaker 1: app and I'll be in control meanwhile, full on captivity. Oh,
Speaker 1: I need to measure this food to make sure that
Speaker 1: I put the exact number in and make stay in
Speaker 1: my green and well. For me, it wasn't that I
Speaker 1: went to the doctor and was waged. For me, it
Speaker 1: was that, you know, we took a picture at work
Speaker 1: with some big artists that was in and all I
Speaker 1: could see was not like a cool moment with this
Speaker 1: person at work, Like it was, Uh, do is that
Speaker 1: what I look like right now? But if that I
Speaker 1: was grading myself on how my brain was seeing myself
Speaker 1: in that picture and maybe how my genes felt that
Speaker 1: day or whatever, when really I should have, like you're saying,
Speaker 1: looked at all the accomplishments I had had over that
Speaker 1: week that were actually better for me and my g
Speaker 1: p A would have been a lot higher. And that's
Speaker 1: bringing mindfulness to a really hard moment. That's bringing non
Speaker 1: reactivity to a moment where your your primal brain, your
Speaker 1: limbic brain, your emotional brain, which is very conditioned to
Speaker 1: see your worth tied to your weight or your size,
Speaker 1: just jumped right back into command. So there's so many
Speaker 1: tools that we need to learn as to Okay, my
Speaker 1: body is feeling scared right now, what does this mean?
Speaker 1: Do I need to react to this? Can I calm
Speaker 1: down before I make any decisions and bring ourselves back
Speaker 1: to that higher level of functioning so that we can
Speaker 1: make choices that reflect who we really want to be.
Speaker 1: And I also just want to say I remember the
Speaker 1: picture now and the artist and you looked radiant. So
Speaker 1: thank you, good, thanks. I appreciate that our favorite word
Speaker 1: or our adjective, you're on outweigh. So yeah, Lisa gives
Speaker 1: the course info one more time. I'll put it all
Speaker 1: in the show notes so you can easily just scroll
Speaker 1: down and click but forth the noise dot com forward
Speaker 1: slash h F and your code is outweigh h F
Speaker 1: at checkout for off. Most importantly, if you have questions.
Speaker 1: I don't want anybody to rush into signing a for
Speaker 1: this if they're like, I don't know if this is
Speaker 1: for me where I'm at, no courses for every single person,
Speaker 1: So feel free to email me at hello at fork
Speaker 1: the Noise dot com. I'll answer your questions. And if
Speaker 1: you miss the deadline for March twenty one, we still
Speaker 1: have that first week where you can kind of join
Speaker 1: in even though the first modules going, you won't miss
Speaker 1: out on anything, I promise. Well, Lisa, I am thankful
Speaker 1: to have you in my life and to have you
Speaker 1: as a resource, and to have you know, to be
Speaker 1: a recipient of all of your hard work. Thank you
Speaker 1: for for making this what you do, and thank you
Speaker 1: for allowing me to do this, which is my true
Speaker 1: joy of outweigh And I'll never get over this community
Speaker 1: and the emails we get and the d ms that
Speaker 1: we get from the listeners. So thank all of you
Speaker 1: for just showing up and making this a free, valuable
Speaker 1: resource to everybody. All Right, Well, we'll see y'all next Saturday.
Speaker 1: Bye bye,