1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: those of the authors and participants and do not necessarily 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: represent those of I Heart Media, Stuff Media, or its employees. 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Listener discretion is advised from my Heart Radio and Tenderfoot TV. 5 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: Monster presents Insomniac. I'm Scott Benjamin and everything I'm about 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: to tell you is real. This is Insomniac. On July two, 7 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: a Canadian trooper cautiously approached the driver of a vehicle 8 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: parked under a bridge. The man behind the wheel was asleep, 9 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: and when asked, he claimed was a tourist just stopping 10 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: for some rest. As the trooper talked with the American traveler, 11 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: she noted that the back seat held some luggage and 12 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 1: a large stack of videotapes. However, since there was really 13 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: no cause for alarm, the two parted ways. The truth 14 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: was the tourists had been living out of his car 15 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: for several days at this point. The very next day, 16 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: on July three, that same American visitor was in Pinery 17 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: Provincial Park in Grand Bend, Ontario, Canada. The stack of 18 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: videotapes in the back seat was now nowhere to be found, 19 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: and next to him was rambling three page handwritten letter 20 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: on yellow note paper, stating that his marriage was failing, 21 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: his business was failing, and he was sorry for messing 22 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: up the park. After all, he had planned to do 23 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: this somewhere else. He finished his long note with the 24 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: line that he simply wanted to eat a peanut butter sandwich, 25 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: his favorite snack, and then go to sleep. With that, 26 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: he pulled out a three fifty seven magnum and shot 27 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: himself in the forehead. By the time his body was 28 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: discovered later that evening by some campers, he had been 29 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: missing for eight days. What really brought this man four 30 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: miles from his comfortable Midwestern home and why did he 31 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: feel the need to end it also abruptly with a 32 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: bullet to the brain. Was it really the pressures of 33 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: a failed marriage and business or was there something more 34 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: sinister to the story? As it turns out, there was 35 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: a lot more. In fact, the dark truth was only 36 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: beginning to be unearthed in his hometown of Westfield, Indiana, 37 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: just one day before his death, and people in the 38 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: small town we're already beginning to talk. Most killers aren't 39 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: very open about their murdering ways, and that's with good reason. 40 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: But that presents a problem for the killer. Well, secrecy 41 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: is absolutely necessary. A lot of killers find they need 42 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: to share what they've done. They feel the need to 43 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: brag and receive recognition they think they deserve for the 44 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: depraved acts. Of course, that's dangerous for the killer. Tell 45 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: the wrong person and you'll end up in prison for 46 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: life or receiving a death sentence. You're gonna learn how 47 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: the I seventies strangler found a way around this dilemma. 48 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: How he found a way to share his terrible secret 49 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: with an entire group of onlookers, and he knew that 50 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: none of them would ever report him to the police. 51 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: How could he be so sure of their loyalty. We'll 52 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: answer that question along the way. To begin our story, 53 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: we have to start almost exactly twenty five years ago 54 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: in a city known as the Crossroads of America, Indianapolis, Indiana. 55 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: By the mid nineteen nineties, the Indianapolis Police and the 56 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: Marion County Sheriff's Department knew they had a problem. Gay 57 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: men from the area surrounding Indianapolis, all matching a similar 58 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: physical description, age, height, and wait, we're disappearing. Ten had 59 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: disappeared in the previous two years. Beginning in the spring 60 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: of nine, but the problem wasn't exactly new to the 61 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: authorities either. From to the mid nineteen nineties, the discarded 62 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: dead bodies of men were being found in the rural 63 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: areas along the corridor of Interstate seventy between Indianapolis, Indiana, 64 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: and Columbus, so Hio. All of them had been strangled 65 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: to death. At the time, the investigators couldn't piece it 66 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: all together. There were no witnesses, and there just wasn't 67 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: enough usable evidence left behind. The only known connection was 68 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: the missing men's ties to the gay community. A lot 69 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: of them were taken on their way to or on 70 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: their way home from India's gay nightclubs. But now in 71 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: the fall of things were about to change. Following a 72 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: tip from an informant, one that wanted to remain anonymous, 73 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: the hunt for another man, someone known as Brian Smart, 74 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: was on. According to the informant, he visit one of 75 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: India's gay nightclubs and he saw another man who was 76 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: overly interested in a missing person's poster that had been 77 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: tacked on the club's wall. The poster featured a photo 78 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: of the informants friend, Roger Goodlett. Goodlet had gone missing 79 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: in July. Intrigued and more than a little suspicious of 80 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: the stranger, the informant introduced himself to the man. He 81 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: said his name was Brian Smart and he was a 82 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: landscaper from Ohio. The informant tried to get Smart to 83 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 1: talk more about the missing goodlet, but every time he 84 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: mentioned the missing man, Smart became evasive and changed the subject. 85 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: As the night wore on, Smart became emboldened and invited 86 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 1: his new friend for a late night swim at the 87 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: house he said he was temporarily living in. The man 88 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: noted that Smart was driving a gray Buick with Ohio 89 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: license plates. Since the informant wasn't familiar with the area 90 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: north of Indianapolis, he didn't know exactly where the house 91 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: was located, but he was able to describe where they 92 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: ended up that evening. It was an area surrounded by 93 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: big homes, long split rail fences, and horse ranches. The 94 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: house they drove to was a large, tutor style home, 95 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: and the pair entered from a side door. He noticed 96 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: that the interior was crowded with dust covered furniture and boxes. 97 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: As they made their way through the house, then down 98 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: some stairs to the bar, an indoor pool area. Smart 99 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: offered his guest to drink that he had prepared himself, 100 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: but the informant wisely refused it. Smart then excused himself, 101 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: and when he returned he was a lot more talkative 102 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:45,239 Speaker 1: than before. The informants suspected that Smart had just snorted 103 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: some cocaine. He knew enough about the drug to notice 104 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: the telltale behavioral changes it produced. Soon, Smart brought up 105 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: the topic of autoerotic asphyxiation. That's when someone received he's 106 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: pleasure from suffocation or being choked, either during intercourse or masturbation, 107 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: often to the edge of death. Smart asked the informant 108 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: to strangle him first, and he went along with it. 109 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: He choked Smart with the pool hose while he masturbated 110 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: and passed out. After Smart revived, claiming a sexual rush 111 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: like no other, it was the informants turn he was. 112 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,119 Speaker 1: At this point, Smart began choking him with the pool hose, 113 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: but when it was clear that he wasn't going to stop, 114 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: the informant pretended to pass out and Smart released him. 115 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: When the informant finally opened his eyes, Smart appeared rattled, 116 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: and he claimed he was scared because the man had 117 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: lost consciousness. The truth was Smart didn't expect his late 118 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: night pool guests to wake up at all, and that's 119 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: what spooked him. It was apparent that Smart had done 120 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: this before, and the man said that his hands were 121 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 1: strong and confident around his neck as he strangled into 122 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: the edge of death. When they had finished their pool 123 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: side fun, the pair collected themselves and Smart drove the 124 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: man back to Indianapolis, where they agreed to meet up 125 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: again the following week. The informant felt that Smart's deviant 126 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: behavior in the pool that evening might explain what happened 127 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: to his missing friend Roger Goodlett. He called to tell 128 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: the authorities about a suspicion. However, that following week, at 129 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: the time and place they agreed to meet, Smart never 130 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: showed and for a while he remained a ghost. Oh 131 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: and one more creepy detail shared by the informant about 132 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: the large house somewhere north of Indianapolis. There were mannikins 133 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: all over the place and in different postures, including lounging 134 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: around the pool area. They were well dressed, almost as 135 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: if they were attending an upscale pool party. When asked 136 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: about the mannequins, Smart replied that the owner of the 137 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: house didn't want to be lonely. He kept them around 138 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: for company. So why mannequins. What's the fascination. Well, it's 139 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: due to a condition called a gaunt ophelia, which is 140 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: the sexual attraction to a statue or a doll, or 141 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: a mannequin or any other similar figurative object, most often 142 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: one that has a female form. Those that have this 143 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: condition are sexualizing good doll. The homeowner in today's case 144 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: just half wants to be sexualized in a group of 145 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:06,199 Speaker 1: life sized dolls. If you know where to look, examples 146 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: of a gametophilia can be found in lots of places. 147 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: It appears in the arts. Hans Bellmer created and photographed 148 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: life sized fetish dolls in the nineteen thirties, and the 149 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: sexualized doll photography of German artists Helmutt Newton is another example. 150 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: There are instances of this in novels and movies too, 151 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: and dating much earlier. There's the Greek myth of Big Malion, 152 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: a sculptor who fell in love with the statue he 153 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: had carved. If you're looking for modern examples, those are 154 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: easy to find too. For instance, Ronald Dotson, age thirty 155 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: nine at the time was arrested in the city of 156 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: Royal Look, Michigan, in two thousand seven. Police spotted dots 157 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: In near a smashed out storefront window that displayed a 158 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: mannequin wearing a French made outfit. This arrest came just 159 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: a week after he was paroled for his sixth breaking 160 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: and entering conviction over the course of thirteen years. Now, 161 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: not all of Dotson's crimes involved mannequins, but a lot 162 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: of them did. One notable arrest in his past came 163 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: after police had found him in an alley behind a 164 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: woman's clothing store with three mannequins, all were dressed in lingerie. 165 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: This is clearly a man who has a sexual fetish 166 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: for female mannequins and simply can't control his urges, even 167 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: if that means breaking into a business to satisfy his needs. 168 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: For his crime and Royal Oak, the judge gave Doubts 169 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: in a harsh sentence a year and a half in prison, 170 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: but that's likely because he was a repeat offender with 171 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: many prior convictions, and the judge reason that Dotson's behavior, 172 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: even though he never really harmed another human, struck fear 173 00:12:52,040 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: in the community. With the information and descriptions provided by 174 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: the informant, the police staked out the gay bars in Indianapolis. 175 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: He interviewed bar patrons and posted flyers, but they weren't 176 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: able to locate anyone named Brian Smart or anyone who 177 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: fit the description, and the killings continued. Finally, a year later, 178 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: in the fall of the police got another break. The 179 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 1: informant had spotted Brian once again, and this time he 180 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: got the man's license plate. The Indianapolis police ran a 181 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: check on the license plate number, and the results pointed 182 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:50,479 Speaker 1: back to the car's owner. Brian Smart was actually Herb Baumeister, 183 00:13:52,160 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: a resident of the nearby suburb of Westfield, Indiana. Herbert 184 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: Richard Baumeister was born on April seven in Indianapolis, Indiana. 185 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: He was the eldest child of Herbert and Elizabeth Baumeister, 186 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: and he led us seemingly happy childhood, but in adolescence 187 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: he started developing antisocial behaviors. There were rumors of him 188 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: urinating on a teacher's desk. He started playing with dead animals, 189 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: and friends remember him speaking of wondering what it would 190 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: be like to taste human urine. Secretly, Herb's father had 191 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: him take psychological tests tests that indicated her was a 192 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: schizophrenic and that he had multiple personality disorder. The odd 193 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: thing is that there's no record of her ever receiving 194 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: treatment for either condition. By Herbert graduated high school and 195 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: was accepted into Indiana University. He dropped out of college 196 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: after just one semester and went to work as a 197 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: copy boy for the Indianapolis Star newspaper, but returned to 198 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: IU in the fall of nineteen sixty seven, and that's 199 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: when he met his future wife, Julianna or Julie as 200 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: she preferred to be called. In November of nineteen seventy one, 201 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: Herb was twenty four years old, and he and Julie 202 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: were married in the late nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighties. 203 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: The two had three children together, two girls and a boy, Marie, Eric, 204 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: and then Emily. In nineteen seventy two, not long after 205 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: his marriage to Julie, Herbs spent two months in a 206 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: psychiatric hospital committed by his own father. Julie agreed with 207 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: the decision, saying her was tired and he needed help. 208 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: By nineteen seventy four, have been taking a job with 209 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: the Bureau of Motor Vehicles and was eventually promoted to 210 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: program director. This success didn't last long, however, as signs 211 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: of his mental illness began to show, and his position 212 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: was finally terminated in the nineteen eighties when he urinated 213 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: on a letter which was to be sent to the 214 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: then governor of Indiana, Robert or. The next several years 215 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:32,479 Speaker 1: weren't much better for her either. On September three, Herb nowty, 216 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: committed a hit and run, well intoxicated, but there was 217 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: no severe punishment. Then. Less than one year later, in 218 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: March of Herb was charged with auto theft and conspiracy 219 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: to commit theft, but he once again avoided punishment and 220 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 1: somehow beat the charges against him. That very same year, 221 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: Herb's father died. On the positive side, her had taken 222 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,479 Speaker 1: a job at a local thrift store that inspired him 223 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: and his wife, Julie to start a business of their own. 224 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: In Herb's mother, Elizabeth Balmeister, loan him the money to 225 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: open his own thrift store. The balmister is called their 226 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: new thrift store Save a Lot, not to be confused 227 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 1: with the chain of grocery stores to go by a 228 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: similar name, and it was initially successful, earning a couple 229 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: of small fortune in the first year alone. The pair 230 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: soon opened a second location and things were beginning to 231 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: look up for the young family. Herb was a domineering 232 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: business partner, which Julie didn't like but tolerated, and the 233 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: employees of Save a Lot noticed that Herb would often 234 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: disappear for several hours at a time, right in the 235 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: middle of the workday, and he always returned smelling like alcohol. 236 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: Despite Herb's questionable management style, the small Save a Lot 237 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: chain was successful enough to allow the Bombasters to buy 238 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: a new home, a much bigger home outside of the city, 239 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: somewhere with a lot of property and privacy, where Herb 240 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: could conduct a different kind of business. I inherited a 241 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: fascination with true crime from my father. Other members of 242 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: our family would shake their heads and wonder why he 243 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: was drawn to such dark material, But I always understood 244 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: it's voyeurism, the front row seat to view the thoughts 245 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: and actions of monsters. They're victims, their families and the 246 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,719 Speaker 1: authorities who hunt them. Now it's my job to research 247 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: these stories to the fullest extent, to study them every day. 248 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: I know it sounds like a dream to some of you, 249 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: and I thought it would be too, But I was wrong. 250 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: True crime isn't the escape that it once was for me, 251 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: It's become the opposite. Making this show has unlocked something 252 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: inside of me, something I've kept a secret until now. 253 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: I have nightmares, extremely realistic dreams that prevent me from sleeping, 254 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: sometimes for several nights in a row. Nightmares that are 255 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: filled with monsters, real life killers like the I seventies strangler. 256 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: These nightmares are so vivid they disturb my reality, blurring 257 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: the lines between waking and sleeping. But the worst part 258 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: is that sometimes the monster in my nightmare is me 259 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: When I wake up. The whole day, I avoid eye 260 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: contact with everyone, certain that I'm guilty of something horrible 261 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: and they can somehow read it in my sleep deprived, 262 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: bloodshot eyes. I know these killers, their stories, and I'm 263 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: hoping that by sharing their cases, I can take away 264 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 1: the power that they have over me and get some 265 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: much needed rest. And I'm telling you my secret because 266 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: I know I can't be the only person who's struggling 267 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: with this. Well research in this case, I came across 268 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: something highly unusual, something I never really expected, and fairly 269 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: rare among the ranks of serial killers, similar to Herb. 270 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: I found a short video clip that shows what amounts 271 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: to a chance encounter with a serial killer by a 272 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 1: local television station in Indianapolis. The new station was w 273 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: i s h TV channel eight, and the reporter interviewed 274 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: her Baumeister right at the height of his crimes. There's 275 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: no indication in the video as to what year the 276 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: interview took place, but I have figured to be between 277 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: the background of the shot is clearly bout Wister's property. 278 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: There's no doubt it's his fields, his driveway, and his fence. 279 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: In fact, you can match the location with crime scene 280 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: photos taken to the property years later. We'll play the 281 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: audio for you in a moment. But here's how all 282 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: of this came to be. Herb and his son were 283 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: near the road just outside of the property, and they 284 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: witnessed a road striping crew passing by. There also happened 285 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: to be a dead raccoon on the road. As the 286 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,719 Speaker 1: crew approached, Herb said to his son, I think he's 287 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: going to lay a paint stripe right over that dead racoon. 288 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: Sure enough, the crew did just that. Apparently, this angered 289 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: Herb so much that he decided to take photographs of 290 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: what he witnessed and share them with the local news 291 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 1: station to alert them to this wrongdoing. It's a very 292 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: strange interview. There's Herb standing on the edge of his property, 293 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: wearing a suit and tie and looking exactly how you 294 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: would imagine a successful small business owner might look in 295 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: the early nineteen nineties. Nothing seems to be out of 296 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: the ordinary. He's relatively calm, he's amiable and even laughs 297 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: a bit. But at the same time he seems appalled 298 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: at the callous treatment of this dead raccoon. I find 299 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: this extremely strange. Listen to his interview and see if 300 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: you agree. Herb Baumeister of Karmel saw it all. I 301 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: said to my son, they're gonna hit that raccoon with 302 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: this way God. And sure enough they just striped right 303 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: over it space and neck and I didn't even move. 304 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: But you had no effort to, you know, get it 305 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: out of the way. So I haven't have a polaroid 306 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: with me, so I took a shot at the fact 307 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: a raccoon which met its demise on the yellow line 308 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: became one with the paint. The raccoon has since been removed. 309 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: This is all that's left. This was just you know, 310 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: a Painter should have had a chocolate brought around his 311 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: career by state officials. There was no excuse for that. 312 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the poor thing to deserve a better faith 313 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: than that. The poor thing deserved a better faith than that. 314 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: The question is this, has herb really that upset about 315 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: the treatment of a dead raccoon? Whereas he using this 316 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: as an opportunity to try to blend in, trying to 317 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: appear a little more normal than the way he was 318 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: perceived by everyone around him. Was he attempting to pretend 319 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: to be a normal, functioning member of society. I guess 320 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: we'll never know the answer. The Bellmeister family was ready 321 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,719 Speaker 1: to move into the new dream home, but the cracks 322 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: were beginning to show, and her secret life couldn't stay 323 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: secret for long. Eric herbs Son was about to make 324 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: a gruesome discovery in the woods, something that should make 325 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: Julie question everything she believed about her husband, but she 326 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: ignored it. Next time on Insomniac. 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