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Speaker 3: What's up, everybody, and welcome to the Action Network NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 3: This is your NFC team by team post draft edition.

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Speaker 3: I am your host, Chris Raybon, joined as always by

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Speaker 3: my dude, Stucky Stuck. We just had a good conversation

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Speaker 3: about the AFC. Uh now we're jumping into the NFC.

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Speaker 3: Any kind of top level thoughts here about the NFC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thinking, look at AFC, it's loaded so many teams,

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Speaker 2: so many good teams. And the NC is quite different,

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Speaker 2: different landscape, different feel. It feels a lot more wide open.

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Speaker 2: You have a couple of teams at the very top,

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Speaker 2: you know your bucks, your rams, and then it's like,

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Speaker 2: all right, who's gonna take that next step? It's I

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Speaker 2: think that there's a chance for someone to sneak in

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Speaker 2: that's a little unexpected, and then maybe caut some cast

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Speaker 2: in the NFC a lot different vibe than the AFC,

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Speaker 2: So it's it's interesting in its own in its own right,

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Speaker 2: I think it'll be interesting to talk about. So that's

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to talk to some NFC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you haven't listened to the AFC pot

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Speaker 3: already go check it out. But just a refresher for

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Speaker 3: the format is, we're going to talk about how we

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Speaker 3: feel about each team's draft, catch you up to date

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Speaker 3: on any off season editions or subtractions you might have

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Speaker 3: missed that have betting implications going forward. We'll talk about

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Speaker 3: the strength of schedule and the schedule in general, which

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about the win total and all that

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Speaker 1: good stuff. So but jump right, jam A.

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Speaker 2: Brady didn't come back, by the way, Yeah, how much

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Speaker 2: weaker the NFC would look even then?

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Speaker 1: I mean it was an arms race in the AFC.

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Speaker 3: It was just like every I can't remember an off

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Speaker 3: but that I mean for better, you know, I think

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Speaker 3: the NFC because there's more uncertainty. So I was jumping

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Speaker 3: feels like they're kind of on the upswing. But I

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Speaker 3: don't know if I could confidently say that, And I

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Speaker 3: want to get your opinion before we even jump into

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Speaker 3: everything else with who they lost and whatnot, just on

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Speaker 3: the draft alone, because personally, I wasn't impressed with it.

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Speaker 3: You know, they add offensive tacker Tyler Smith at twenty

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Speaker 3: but I think they ended it with nine picks in total.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. What did you think of the

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Speaker 2: For the Cowboys, lowest rateed draft of any team in

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Speaker 2: I think they're worse than last year. Other teams in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do agree with you about the turnovers

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Speaker 1: That's just going to be really hard to replicate.

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Speaker 3: And I worry about what what happens if he's not

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Speaker 1: He was eightieth and pfff grades.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I do worry about that.

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Speaker 1: Now, a lot of people will just look at.

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Speaker 3: The underlying stats to say, okay, career high thirty seven touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: their win totals at ten. You look at it and

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Speaker 1: If injuries hit them, you know, things could go downhill.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny.

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Speaker 2: We talked about on the AFC podcast. We talked about

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Speaker 2: the FC West with the Broncos, Chiefs, charges Raiders. They're

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Speaker 2: I project nine point eight ninety seven, nine eight right

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Speaker 2: You would assume Barkley's back, will see what he can bring.

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Speaker 2: But I think the situation around Daniel Jones is significantly

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Speaker 3: You know, we we like we like kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: You know. The line they lost Sheriff.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to say that Washington is anything but the

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Speaker 3: I'm always cautious. I'm usually very down on the Giants

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Speaker 1: A lot of people look you guy as a reach.

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Speaker 2: Good for him, he got paid. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: You don't want to turn the keys over to Mike

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Speaker 3: I mean Keny Kenny quarterback sneak on. No, No, that

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Speaker 4: And the Giants they got banned for the Giants lash,

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Speaker 4: So you had, uh yeah, that was embarrassing, but you

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I forgot how hullly a got of

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Speaker 3: Home against Baltimore and green Bay that that those are

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Speaker 1: You go to Washington, but you just saw him two weeks.

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Speaker 2: You know, look that the Baltimore game at home too

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Speaker 2: then they play Cincy with enormous revenge like that. You know,

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00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 2: they went to Super Bowl. They destroyed Baltimore twice last

437
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 2: year by like fifty talk shit Burrows. I mean, they're

438
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,160
Speaker 2: that game. I can't wait to bet Baltimore there depending

439
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 2: on the number. But I that game circled prime. I

440
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 2: think it's a Sunday night or Monday night game and

441
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 2: then you go to New York to play the Giants

442
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 2: before playing the Browns and the Bucks the next two weeks.

443
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 2: So that is just Sandwich City. So I think that

444
00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,320
Speaker 2: works in the Giants favor as well. Even though that's

445
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 2: like a really tough game on paper, think it's a

446
00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 2: great spot for New York to steal it. Telling you

447
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 2: that as a Ravens fan. So yeah, I really like

448
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 2: the Giants schedule really with it an offseason, g men,

449
00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,439
Speaker 2: so we're high both of our teams going into the

450
00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 2: into the season. Look what could go wrong?

451
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 1: Right? What could go wrong with the Giants and Daniel

452
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 1: Jones and ty Red too.

453
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 3: I was jumped to the NFC North, I mean, speaking

454
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,679
Speaker 3: of things going wrong aheesh. I mean, it's you know,

455
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,680
Speaker 3: I know Darreon Rodgers in this division, but this is

456
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 3: another one of those divisions that just does not look good.

457
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 1: So start with the Pack.

458
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 3: They draft Quay Walker, an insign linebacker, late in the

459
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 3: first round and Davonte Wyatt, so they really trying to

460
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 3: get better on the interior of their defense. Then they

461
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 3: move up for Christian Watson wide out in the second round.

462
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 3: He you know, it's no telling where exactly he lands

463
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 3: on the depth chart, but if they hit on him

464
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,199
Speaker 3: and early, that would go a long way because they

465
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 3: need that because they lost Adams.

466
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: That's just massive. I mean, he was responsible for essentially

467
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,439
Speaker 1: a third of.

468
00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 3: Their receiver production over the last couple of years. It

469
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 3: kind of don't even have to state how much of

470
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,119
Speaker 3: a big of a loss he is. They lose to

471
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 3: Darius Smith, you know, schedules middle of the pack, you know,

472
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 3: I just don't know, Like Aaron Rodgers, you know, these

473
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 3: back to back MVP seasons, how long is he gonna

474
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,200
Speaker 3: keep doing this? Especially without Devonte Adams, Like he's got

475
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,879
Speaker 3: a you know, every quarterback kind of slows down, and

476
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 3: except Tom Brady at some point like is this and

477
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,160
Speaker 3: even tom Brady like remember the last year in New England,

478
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 3: Like when Tom Brady had no receivers, he wasn't very good.

479
00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 3: So it's like, I'm not, like you can't overstate that

480
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 3: there could be like we could go back to like

481
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers pre Hackett and la Floor, which, by the way,

482
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 3: Hackett is also gone the offensive coordinator, but pre Hacket

483
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 3: and la Floor, Aaron Rodgers was looking very ordinary for

484
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 3: a few years in there. So, like, I am not

485
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 3: feeling great about the Packers, what about you?

486
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I'm lower on them than the market.

487
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 2: I mean, their but total is eleven. I project them

488
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: ten three.

489
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I love that Packer hunt and.

490
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: The probably the Yeah, there's a lot of things I

491
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 2: don't like about the Backers. The one thing you do

492
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 2: like about them Silver a great quarterback. I think the

493
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 2: defense with gry Alexander now has a lot of promise.

494
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: I like some of the I like their draft on

495
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball, but like you need

496
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 2: Watson to kind of hit on the offensive end. And you're right,

497
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: there's a chance that Rogers takes a dip here and

498
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: then you're really screwed out. The division is easy, The

499
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: conference is easy. That's really working your favorite. The schedule overall,

500
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 2: even though they won the division, lesure is easy because

501
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 2: of two things that I just said. So there's a

502
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 2: lot of winnable games on the schedule. But yeah, I

503
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: think it's under nothing with the Packers. Oddly enough, we

504
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: talked about this on The only wind total I show

505
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 2: value on over in this division is on Minnesota, and

506
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: we both agree Minnesota future to win this division, Yes,

507
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 2: is one of my favorite bets in the NFC. I

508
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: don't think that there's that much separating those two teams,

509
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: and I think that the Minnesota has actually like I think,

510
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 2: I could see things going much worse for green Bay

511
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: than I can with Minnesota. Like Minnesota, that ceiling probably

512
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 2: isn't as high. But if things go wrong for green Bay,

513
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: this is Minnesota's division. Now. What I need to figure

514
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: out is what to do with the Lions and Bears,

515
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 2: because this is pretty crazy. I have them powered almost identical.

516
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 2: I have them and their win totals are about the same.

517
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: I project them each for exactly the same amount of wins.

518
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 2: I graded their drafts exactly the same, and my edge

519
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 2: on their wind total under is exactly the same. But

520
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: I don't want to take both because they're in the

521
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: same division and they're playing. You know, it's like you're

522
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,200
Speaker 2: kind of it's gonna be tough to hit both of

523
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 2: those unders under what six under seven juiced.

524
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: In most books say Chicago.

525
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: That's that's yeah, that's probably where I'm going with Chicago.

526
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 2: I think they're just in rebuild across that entire roster.

527
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 2: The only thing that with Chicago that gives me hesitancy

528
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: is like, Okay, this fields get a lot better because

529
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: we kind of know we're gonna get with Golf. So

530
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: I think, like, so there's more variance with the Bears

531
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 2: quarterback situation, but I think the rest of the roster,

532
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a team that's just in complete

533
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: shambles because of the salary cap and it's bad. Yeah,

534
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: so I'm leaning Bears going under the Bears for a

535
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: third straight year, just like I'm doing with the Jets.

536
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 2: And I like that you confirmed it right away.

537
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like because like look at Detroit, like

538
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 3: number one, Campbell, I think good, good energy as a coach,

539
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 3: ibra Flus, we like him as a defensive coordinator. We

540
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: have no idea what he's gonna be to that coach.

541
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: Campbell has good energy. Detroit, the roster got better, Like

542
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: Aiden Hutchinson, Jamison Williams gonna come back at some point.

543
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 3: You know, they get They get an edge guy in

544
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: Pascal in the second round. DJ Chark at receiver. He

545
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: re signed Renolds. They got Amon Rossaint Browns, so they

546
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: don't even need Williams to come in and do anything.

547
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 3: Mike you know, they get Mike CU's at corner. They

548
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: have the fifty easiest strength to schedule.

549
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 2: Uh you know.

550
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: I mean the Bears have an easy strength schedule too.

551
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 3: But like the Lions got better justin fields, it's like, yes,

552
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: I agree, there's more variants there. You don't know exactly

553
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 3: what you're gonna get with him compared to GoF, who

554
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: by the way, GoF should be better, right, like GoF

555
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: should be better than last year, and GOFF when he

556
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: has decent supporting cast, he's like not terrible, he's just average.

557
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: Like he's not terrible. He's only terrible when he's got

558
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: a terrible supporting cast. I think this year it's closer

559
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 3: to average. I think the line will be okay. I

560
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: think the receiving core will be okay. Hockinson's a good

561
00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: tight end.

562
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: We like the offensive line. We love the offensive line. Yeah, yeah,

563
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: and then here, but here's I think that the lines,

564
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: like the defense is scary, Like is Akuda gonna.

565
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: Like no, probably no, I mean, well maybe maybe.

566
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: Give something because things really need that, they need something

567
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: in the secondary. Yeah, that's what's really holding the back.

568
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: But the offense has some promise. I'm curious this is

569
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: where your Fantasy X piece can come in. Like, by

570
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: the way, without Swift, it was a completely different offense

571
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 2: last year. So you know, you get Swift back, what

572
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: are your projections for him? And then what are your

573
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 2: I don't know how far along you've gotten with Jamis

574
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: and Williams, like you hear different things in the medical

575
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 2: like when are you anticipating he wilcome back? And he's

576
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: obviously pretty important for this team.

577
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: I think so Swift.

578
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 3: I think like I like Swift to like approach. You know,

579
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 3: he went over a thousand scrimmagars last year in thirteen games. Like,

580
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: I think he has like fifteen hundred scrimmage yard upside

581
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 3: if he only misses like you know, one or two games.

582
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 3: You know, he had a bunch of like really big

583
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: games on the ground, you know, one hundred and thirty game,

584
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty six yard game and back to

585
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 3: back week on the road against the Steelers and Browns.

586
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: So like he has the upside. We obviously know he

587
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: can catch the ball.

588
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 3: He had sixty two catches even in thirteen games last year,

589
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 3: So I think Swift is great. I think the depth

590
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 3: running back is good. And even if I think Williams

591
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: probably plays realistically like half the season, that's that's that's

592
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 3: how I kind of view him.

593
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 1: I think he's a PP candidate.

594
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 3: But like I said, even without him, Amon Ross, Saint

595
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: Brown was special last year. DJ Chark is an upgrade

596
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: on Khalif Raymond and whoever else they were trotting out there,

597
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 3: who I forget who else it was Trinity Benson. And

598
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: then Reynolds is solid, you know, as like a second

599
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: like your third option at ride receiver, your fourth option,

600
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 3: fifth option in the passing game, because you're gonna have

601
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: you're gonna throw Swift and Hawkinson more then you're gonna

602
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 3: throw to Reynolds, and you're gonna throw to Saint Brown

603
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 3: and Shark Moore. So as a fifth option in the

604
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: passing game for half the season, I think Josh Reynolds

605
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: is fine. And remember Goff has a the chemistry with

606
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: him dating back to the days with the Ramps. So

607
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: I think they're actually fine at receiver EMOM without Williams.

608
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: And then again yeah, offensive line good.

609
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 3: You know, back run A ground game should be good

610
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 3: because the line is good and they have a talented back.

611
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: And then like, just to put this into perspective, Jared

612
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 3: Goff was twenty sixth twenty fifth excuse me, and QBR

613
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: last year at thirty nine point five. Okay, it's not

614
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 3: good at thirty three qualifiers. Justin Fields was dead last

615
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 3: at twenty six point four. Justin Fields could improve and

616
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: still be one of the worst quarterbacks in the league

617
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 3: and still might not be as good as Golf was

618
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 3: last year, even with a jump.

619
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm worried about the Bears.

620
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 3: You have an offense that's in shambles, but a defense

621
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: first head coach that you just thought because usually what

622
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: happens is, you know, a team's offense stinks and then

623
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: they bring in like an offensive minded coach because they

624
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: had a defensive minded coach, and you know, like they

625
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: fired an offensive minded coach to bring in a defensive guy.

626
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 3: But there their offense is still in shambles. So like,

627
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: and their defense got a lot because they just lost talent.

628
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: I mean the drafts, I like the value they got

629
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: on Kyler Gordon and Jakwan Brisker, a corner in a safety,

630
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: respectively in the second round.

631
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: I think those were good value picks. But they gonna.

632
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 3: Be counting on young guys on defense. There's not as

633
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: much talent on the defensive side of the ball as

634
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 3: there has been over the past few years.

635
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: They got a new coach.

636
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 3: The only thing you can say for the Bears is

637
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 3: the schedule. But six and a half is too much

638
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 3: for what I think is one of the worst teams

639
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: in the league. And where's the Lions. I think they're

640
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: just a below average team. I don't think the Lions

641
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 3: are like one of the worst teams in the league.

642
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: I think the Bears are. So Yeah, I think you

643
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 3: I think you fade the Bears, you kind of leave

644
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: the Lions alone.

645
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't be surprised, to be honest with you.

646
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 3: You know, I know the mass doesn't work out, but

647
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if the Lions won seven eight games,

648
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: to be honest, Like, especially if the Packers kind of regressing,

649
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 3: the Lions can steal one from the Packers at some point.

650
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: I think it's not out of question.

651
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see I want to see Campbell,

652
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: not like give the reins to Ben Johnson to see

653
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: what the offense could do, because I like Campbell's a

654
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: head coach, but then he was like taking of a

655
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: play calling and then not bad at times. I mean,

656
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: I know it was Swift was out some of those

657
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: games and they were just handing it to Jamal Williams

658
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: just right up the middle, running into a wall when

659
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: everyone knew they were going to run it. That just

660
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 2: got really predictable. And so you know, apparently they're you know,

661
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: they're saying, hey, we're working with more temple, all the

662
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: coach that you could get in the offseason. So we'll

663
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: see how the offense goes. But I agree, I think

664
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: that we're on the same page under Bears and then

665
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: Packers make a flyer on Yeah, don't mind the Packers

666
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: under and then take a flyer on the Uh, it's

667
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: not necessarily a flyer. I just think there's a value

668
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: in the Vikings in the division.

669
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're plus two seventy five, Like that's absurd.

670
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 3: Love that they like they like the teams in like

671
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: the Ravens and all those teams in the AFC West

672
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 3: are like shorter to win a division and they're competing

673
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 3: with like three or four teams arguably like at least three,

674
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: you know, or like amongst three teams, the three teams

675
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: have a real shot maybe even four in the AFC West,

676
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 3: and their odds are shorter than these This Vikings team

677
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: that's really competing with the Packers and might already be

678
00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 3: better than the Packers.

679
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: And we know the Vikings are one of the few.

680
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: Teams that, like when the Packers you know, go on

681
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: the road to Minnesota, like Packers really struggle, you know,

682
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: so like the Vikings already kind of you know, one

683
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 3: of those teams that could beat the Packers at least won.

684
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Vikings open up the season at home, I

685
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: believe against the Packers too, Is that right?

686
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: I think so Bikings Yep, Week one home against Green Bay,

687
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: big game that.

688
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be close to a pick, not

689
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: including that game. Yeah, I've been a sort of favorite

690
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: eleven games, not even including that first game.

691
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 3: They're i mean, outside the two Packer games, which might

692
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 3: not be as hard, Like there's really no other game

693
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: that like up and down the schedule that scares you.

694
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 3: I mean, like the tougher games on their schedule are

695
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: like home games against mediocre teams. Home against Arizona, home

696
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: against Dallas, home against New England. You know, like those

697
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 3: are at home against Indianapolis, Like all of their tougher

698
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: games are at home.

699
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: So like, yeah, it's this Vikast team.

700
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 3: I would invest heavily in that Vikings division NFC North,

701
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: I've already put a little bit on it.

702
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: But that's they also play.

703
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: They also play at the Saints in London, so that's

704
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: one of their road games instead of going to New Orleans, right,

705
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: a tough place to play. They're playing the Saints in London.

706
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, they don't have a bye, so they got

707
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: to choose that then, but they're coming home for the

708
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: Bears the week after at home, you know. Then they're

709
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: at Miami. Then you're by yeah, so and then I believe,

710
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 2: just to wrap up this division because since we're such

711
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: on the same the Packers, yeah, for the first time

712
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: ever are playing. They're the only team who's never played

713
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: an international game. I believe, you can double check this.

714
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: I have their schedule. Just yeah, I think that one

715
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: of their home games is in they're playing the games

716
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: in London and that's one of their home games. Honesty,

717
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: took away one of their home games, I think, right, yeah,

718
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 2: like they're only going to have I think.

719
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 3: They only have two preseason games though, because so that's

720
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: that's that's interesting.

721
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they only have eight home eight games in Lambeau.

722
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 2: And then they're one of their home games, so one

723
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: of their home games, you know, instead of getting the

724
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: Giants at home, and you were playing in London, and

725
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: then what vikings one of their road games instead of

726
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: going to New Orleans, they're going overseas. Another nugget to

727
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: keep in mind. Yeah, no, it's a Packers also three

728
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: straight road games. That's so they go to London October ninth,

729
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: no bye the week after come home. So they were

730
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: in London October ninth, play the Giants. We'll be on

731
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: the Giants play that game, they come home to Green

732
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: Bay to play the Jets to win that game. Then

733
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: they're at Washington, at Buffalo, at Detroit, and then home

734
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 2: gets down. I mean it's their buy is not until

735
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: December eleventh, probably the latest you'll ever see a bye.

736
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: There's a lot I don't like about this Packer's schedule.

737
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: They also travel to Tampa Bay, which we know is

738
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 3: their kryptonite, or in week three and they they have

739
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: a trap game in week sixteen against my at Miami

740
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: and the You're Cold Weather team going all the way

741
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: to Miami in between a game against the Rams and

742
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: a game against the Vikings, So like, yeah, yeah, fade

743
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 3: the pack bet the Vikings and in faate Chicago.

744
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: That's yeah, we're on the same page there.

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Speaker 1: Good jump to Tampa Bay.

774
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 3: In this NFC South they go Logan hal Luke Kadeki

775
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: in the second round.

776
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: They didn't have a first round pick. They believed they

777
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: traded down.

778
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: Uh, they did lose Alex Kappa and you know Gruce

779
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 3: arians what goes upstairs? They Todd bow comes in ahead

780
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: coach coach Gronk. We don't know what's going on with him.

781
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: Chris Godwin could miss part of the season. Oj Howard's gone,

782
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 3: but they do trade for Shaq Mason on the Interior Wine.

783
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 3: They get Russell Gage, a quality you know, as one

784
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: as he doesn't have to be your top option. I

785
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 3: think it's a quality receiver they get from Atlanta, and

786
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: they got the seventhies hest strength to schedule And listen,

787
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 3: you know Tom Brady's Yes, he's a year older. Yes,

788
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 3: some people, you know the receiving corp might not quite

789
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: be as strong. But you look up and down the

790
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 3: list at the teams in the top seven in strength

791
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 3: to schedule, Giants, Eagles, Colts, Bears, Lions, Commander's Bucks. Like

792
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,280
Speaker 3: the Bucks stand out is only like a week team

793
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 3: that has one of those easy schedules, Like the Colts

794
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: should be pretty good.

795
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: The Eagles, as we mentioned, could.

796
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 3: Be pretty good, but like Tim Bay really stands out

797
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: as like a truly elite team and an elite quarterback

798
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 3: that has one of the easier schedules in the league.

799
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: So the win totals eleven and a half, even money

800
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: they had twelve Pythagora wins last year.

801
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: I still like to Tampa team.

802
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, best team in the NFC, and they are in

803
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: a very weak division where they're clearly the best team.

804
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: They're gonna be there come playoff time. Now, because it's like,

805
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: I guess a really good shot at the one seed

806
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 2: too based on yep now, which is really important from

807
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: a future's perspective. This division, to me is just it's

808
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: not worth spending a lot of time on. But I

809
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: kind of like that. I kind of like the Saints over.

810
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: They've taken some money at eight. I like over. I

811
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: mean I project like eight seven eight eight. I like

812
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: what they did in draft. I actual like what Tampa

813
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: did in the draft. But the Falcons and Panthers are

814
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: just so bad and their situations are just dire. Tampa's

815
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 2: gonna be there now. They might hit like a lull.

816
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 2: It's hard. Brady Brady like kind of prevents that though,

817
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: like just the landing of perfection. So maybe they don't.

818
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: I project the Bucks, what are they over? Eleven minus

819
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 2: one money?

820
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: They're even money at better webont on draftings.

821
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: I project like eleven three. Yeah, so don't mind that. Yeah,

822
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: I believe we double check. I mean, because they're home

823
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: against them, they get the Packers and Chiefs at home.

824
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: Back to back weeks. That's tough.

825
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: But at home, yeah, they get the Ravens at home,

826
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 2: Rams at home, which is why I was just double

827
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: checking they get the Bengals at home. I was just

828
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: double checking. I've been favored in all seventeen games. Some

829
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: of them are going to be close, but I haven't

830
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: favored in every game in a really weak division, really

831
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: good shot at getting that one seed you got. Brady's probably,

832
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: you know, keeps you focused and those those potential trap games.

833
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 2: So I would lean over over with Tampa. I kind

834
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 2: of lean over with New Orleans kind of on the

835
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: fence now because it's it's it was I think over

836
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: eight plus one of five. I think it's over eight

837
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: minus one thirty now I project like eight point eight.

838
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: I am extremely on Carolina. I mean, look, what's Carolina. Yet,

839
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: it's Matt Rules. He's just gonna say we're going to

840
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 2: the rookie. He's probably gonna start with Darnold if he goes,

841
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: ends up going to the rookie, which I kind of

842
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: like where they draft a crawl, but that means things

843
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: that go I'm completely wrong with Darnold, which I think

844
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: they will, and then you're in a bad spot and

845
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 2: I don't love the roster. The Falcons are in complete

846
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: rebuild mode. There's not much to like about them. I

847
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: have no interest in either one of those teas. I

848
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: would lean under with both, but not enough to play

849
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: lean Bucks over. This is the most boring division in

850
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 2: the NFL.

851
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean here's I say.

852
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 3: I feel like I say this every year, but it

853
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 3: bears repeating. Tom Brady has been to the super Bowl

854
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,399
Speaker 3: in ten of his twenty two years, which means he's

855
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: won the conference in ten of his twenty two years.

856
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: That's forty five percent.

857
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: But the Bucks right now are plus three thirty to

858
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: win the NFC, which is about a twenty three percent chance.

859
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 3: So based on Brady's career, he has like double the

860
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: implied odds. You know, his track record is double the

861
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 3: implied odds. And I mean it's it's you know, twenty

862
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: two years is still a low number in grand s

863
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 3: game of things, but it's one of the biggest sample

864
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 3: sizes you're ever going to have for a conference win,

865
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: you know, conference winner. So I might have some Bucks

866
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: to win NFC. I think that's a good bet at

867
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 3: this point. There's not really much else you can do,

868
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: you know, with with that with this division.

869
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: I mean, the.

870
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 3: Saints still scare me because you know, yes, they get

871
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 3: a lave they trade up for him though, like eleven

872
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: was a little high, even though he should be a

873
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: good player. They get Penning at one nineteen to replace Armstead,

874
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 3: and then they draft Alante Taylor, a corner in the

875
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 3: second round. But they didn't really have much after that

876
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 3: because you know, a lot of trading of picks and whatnot.

877
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: Like that, they added Landry. I think the receiving course

878
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: should be a lot better. You're still talking.

879
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: About what are you expecting from Michael Thomas. I think

880
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: I think it'll be a lead again.

881
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 1: I think he's a weak receiver. I mean, granted he

882
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: doesn't have Drew Brees, so there will be a step

883
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: back in that regard.

884
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: I don't think they passed as much. But remember Michael

885
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 3: Thomas did fine even with like Taysom.

886
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: Hill a quarterback.

887
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 3: Like it wasn't It wasn't like the numbers went downhill

888
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: even with him there.

889
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: So I think they out on him to like out

890
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: of nowhere. I was like why, I mean he was hurt.

891
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, like people are he's going.

892
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 3: I think he's going around like twenty fifth wide receiver

893
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: off the board.

894
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of nuts.

895
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 3: I think he still should be a top you know,

896
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 3: fifteen guy he's got.

897
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: That upside is still be monstrous.

898
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: It's just I don't think they're gonna throw as much

899
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: in I Also, you know the thing we haven't mentioned

900
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 3: about New Orleans. You know we talked about you know,

901
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: you got to catch everyone up on what's happened this offseason.

902
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 1: You know they lost Sean Payton.

903
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: That that makes me not feel very good about Yeah.

904
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: Well we talked about that last time.

905
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: Did did Peyton like fix Winston? And then in this

906
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: he's not going to be there, and like now Winston's

907
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 2: going to be more in control the quarterback that we

908
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: saw before he got hurt, or like Peyton was needed

909
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: to be there, and then like he's the whole like

910
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: just handling them with kids gloves and he without him,

911
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: then Winston all of a sudden, it's just chaos again.

912
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: That's the big question with no One's because I think

913
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: the roster is decent. This team could win nine games,

914
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: ten games, get in the playoffs, make some noise in

915
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: the NFC. I don't think they can win a super Bowl,

916
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: but in this conference, this team could win ten games. Uh,

917
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: if Winston is under control, Selena there lean over Bucks

918
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: boring division like just a snooze fest.

919
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: And is it like one thing to when we wrap

920
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: it up seven.

921
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: Doll bet him as a dog.

922
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we will.

923
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, like he had seven games of like

924
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 3: this new Jameis Winston where he had you know, eight

925
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 3: point seven yards per attempt, fourteen touchdowns, three picks, But

926
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 3: he only had seven games in that and then he

927
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 3: tore his ACL, so like he's still learning how to

928
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 3: be this new Jameis Winston.

929
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: He's only done it for seven games, but.

930
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 3: Now he has to also learn to be the new

931
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: James Winston with a new coach and coming off of

932
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 3: torn ACL like, so he could take a major step

933
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 3: back or just revert to like the Jameis.

934
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: Winston of old. You know, the receiving course should be better.

935
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, I can't get behind the Saints, Andy Agree

936
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 3: and the Falcons. You could probably still I mean you

937
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: could go under five and probably still hits. I mean

938
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 3: they just their quarterbacks gonna be Mariota or Ritter. They

939
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 3: have nothing at receiver out you know, Drake London. I

940
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 3: mean they draft their raids. He might not even be

941
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: able to separate. I mean, he could be great, but

942
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: he also has a low floor like he has that

943
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: like Laqwan Treadwell floor where he might just not be

944
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 3: able to separate. So I mean there's and then they

945
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: got Brian Edwards, another one of the worst separators in

946
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 3: the league.

947
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: They trade him from They get him in the trade

948
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: from the Raiders.

949
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 3: So they have as they have a backup for London

950
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 3: if and they probably start him, but they alwayst have

951
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 3: a backup for London to not separate. So yeah, I

952
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: don't like the Falcons at all. Casey Hayward, I guess

953
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: maybe it was a nice ad, but not much there.

954
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to the West, the NFC West.

955
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: This is one that.

956
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 3: We're I think we're spending a little more time on.

957
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 3: The fascinating division.

958
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: The Rams.

959
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 3: They don't really have any draft picks on day one. No,

960
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: they don't have any draft picks on day one or two.

961
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 3: They don't make a pick till three forty. Logan Bruss,

962
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: Bruce or Bruss, I don't even know.

963
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: Guard Well, they were.

964
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 2: Originally thinking they were going to get the uh strange

965
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 2: who the Patriots. That was funny, Yeah, yeah, right. Sean

966
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 2: Payton was definitely let up man. He had so he

967
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: was he had some drinks in him.

968
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, his whole commentary about that whole situation was

969
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 3: pretty funny.

970
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: I hate about it.

971
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they get Alan Robinson, they lose Von Miller,

972
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,840
Speaker 3: they lose rob Woods, orstin Corbett the Guard. They have

973
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: the second hardest strength to schedule according to opponent win totals.

974
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: Win their win totals at ten and a half.

975
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 3: You know, I think I think the Rams team is good,

976
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 3: good team, good coach, good quarterback, good high end talent

977
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball.

978
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know.

979
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 3: I don't see a ton of value in betting them.

980
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: I just think you kind of know what you're getting

981
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 3: with the Rams. I think Robinson, you know, they have

982
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 3: Robinson has to not be washed, you know, like he

983
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 3: has to be who he was in the past, because

984
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 3: they're putting a lot if not, they're putting a lot

985
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 3: on Cooper Cup. You know, we don't know what's gonna

986
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: happen with Beckham, and Robinson has to hit for them.

987
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: I think to really compete at the highest level, I

988
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: think they'll still be a good team.

989
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: But to get back to like that Super Bowl, you.

990
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: Know, without Von Miller, without Robert Woods, I think Robinson

991
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: really needs to hit.

992
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look their win total surprising at ten and

993
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, I project them like I was like,

994
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonnad up fading the Rams this year, but

995
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: I've protected them right around there. I think it's a

996
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 2: fair number, even though this is either just won the

997
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: Super Bowl and it's a team that I thought got fortunate.

998
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 2: We agree in the playoffs, things just broke their way.

999
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 2: I mean, they weren't that they don't go there if

1000
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: Tart was it drops the interception that falls into his hands.

1001
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: They kind of think got things that broke right for them,

1002
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: and then you know, you get the Bengals in in

1003
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl, and the Bengals were a good team,

1004
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 2: but there was some tougher teams you probably could have

1005
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: faid just from a pointspread perspective. So I was like,

1006
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna be fading the Rams. I think that

1007
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: they got maybe a little worse overall, but probably they're

1008
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: pretty close to the same team. I think that their

1009
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: future is kind of sacrifice, but they're going to be

1010
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: right there, especially in the NFC, and despite having a

1011
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: you know, pretty tough strength to schedule, even though they're

1012
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: in the NAC it's mainly because of their division. I

1013
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 2: protect them actually a tad over ten and a half wins,

1014
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,840
Speaker 2: so I see no value here. The biggest question to

1015
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 2: me if I go any anything in this division is

1016
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 2: the Seahawks under I think it's that's a complete and

1017
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 2: utter disaster waiting now. And they might be the worst team.

1018
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: We know the Texans besides the Texans, but they might

1019
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: be the second worst team in the NFL.

1020
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: But the big question here something to say about that,

1021
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's true.

1022
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: The big questions here are the well, I mean Arizona,

1023
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: who we probably both don't like with Cliff and you

1024
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: have now you have Hopkins and suspended six games. I

1025
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: think the Ravens fleeced them in the trade, but maybe

1026
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: that made for Marquise Brown. They added Hollywood Brown. Maybe

1027
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: that makes Murray happy. They used to be college teammates,

1028
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 2: but we were. I don't think you're gonna be hot

1029
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 2: on the Cardinals either. But the biggest question this division

1030
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 2: is it's sort of like the the Browns, right. The

1031
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 2: Browns quarterback situation in the AFC North makes that division

1032
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: tough for like, I want to bet this team of

1033
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: a division and also for wind totals because we don't

1034
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: know if Watson's gonna play and how many games is

1035
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: gonna play. Enormous difference because in the same things with

1036
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. The forty nine ers are going

1037
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: to and by the way, that Brown situation could impact

1038
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 2: the Seattle situation because you could have Baker Mayfield going there.

1039
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 2: Kyle Shannon and said, we're probably gonna trade Jimmy g

1040
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: just a matter of time. But when and when is

1041
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: that gonna happen? And then we obviously I was disappointed

1042
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: what I saw from Trey Lance last year. So yeah,

1043
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 2: it's pretty pretty much like it's a rookie. Now, Shanahan

1044
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: has had success with rookies before. It's a pretty good

1045
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,919
Speaker 2: system in place there, pretty good roster, but we don't

1046
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 2: know the quarterback is going to be there. We don't

1047
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 2: know if Seattle's gonna end up getting a different quarterback.

1048
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 2: But I think that's a disaster. But there is a

1049
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: lot of uncertainty here. I don't like the Cardinals, I

1050
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 2: hate the Seahawks. The forty nine ers are a mystery.

1051
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: The Rams are the defending jamps and in a very

1052
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: weak conference with a lot of uncertainty, the division they're

1053
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 2: kind of the known here, so curious to get your

1054
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 2: thoughts on the other teams because we agree who the

1055
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: Rams are. I think like ten and halfs a fair

1056
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 2: wind total. I don't see any value in their future.

1057
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to fade them. I don't want to

1058
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: bet them. So it comes down to these other teams.

1059
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: For me, I lean Arizona under and I lean Seattle under.

1060
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: Curious get your thoughts.

1061
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: This division, and it applies to the Rams too.

1062
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 3: But you know, we talked about the NFCB a week

1063
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: and we kind of hit on that. You know, there's

1064
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: usually two or three bad teams in the first three divisions,

1065
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 3: the East, the North, and the South, like at least

1066
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 3: two arguably could be three teams that finished Bowl five

1067
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:24,479
Speaker 3: hundred in each of those divisions. Now this division looks

1068
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: a little stronger on paper, but this division gets the

1069
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 3: shaft in that this is the division that plays the

1070
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 3: AFC West. You know, all four of these teams are

1071
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 3: going to play the Chiefs and the Chargers and the

1072
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 3: Raiders and the Broncos. Like this is still a division

1073
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 3: of fade. I don't think a lot has changed, Like

1074
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 3: outside of the quarterback situation, which is still massive. You know,

1075
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 3: the Niners aren't super different either. I mean, you know,

1076
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 3: I think they're going to be there. They still have Shannon,

1077
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 3: and they still have a lot of talent. Now there

1078
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 3: could be Do you have a hot take on Lance? Now,

1079
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: it's like the opposite. It's like he's just kind of

1080
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: a little bit underwhelming to me. But at the same time,

1081
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: Jimmy G wasn't that special either. He did Jimmy G

1082
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: just won games. But Kyle Shannan every quarterback that he's

1083
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: had at San Francisco seems to like overachieve, right, So,

1084
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 3: like I think you have Lance for seventeen games starting.

1085
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna wow people, maybe as much

1086
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,359
Speaker 3: as like his draft pedigree would indicate. But I think

1087
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 3: they'll still be able to win games and like run

1088
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 3: the offense and play defense and you know, scheme the

1089
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 3: ball to their playmakers and.

1090
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: Do what they need to do.

1091
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 3: Like, I just don't think it might It might not

1092
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 3: be like Josh Allen, you know, or you know, whatever

1093
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: you're kind of hoping for.

1094
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: So I don't have a hot take.

1095
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 3: It's like the opposite, which maybe that's not what Niner

1096
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: fans want to hear. You know the draft, obviously, the

1097
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 3: only pick you get in the first two days was

1098
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: Drake Jackson, an outside linebacker. You had Travarius Ward. I

1099
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 3: thought that was a good fit at coch Yeah, I

1100
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 3: thought that was.

1101
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: A really good fit.

1102
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: That was something I kind of pointed out before the draft.

1103
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: I thought that was where he should go, and he did.

1104
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 3: Strength to schedule still in the middle of the pack,

1105
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 3: even with facing the West win total at ten plus

1106
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 3: juice to the over at plus one ten.

1107
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: So you know, listen, I'm not going.

1108
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 3: Over ten wins with Trey Lance probably starting a quarterback.

1109
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 3: It's just there's not enough there. But I don't think

1110
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: it's that different here with San Franz and then Arizona.

1111
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 3: I worry about Arizona, man, I mean they also they

1112
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: too have to face the West AFC West. They have

1113
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 3: the ninth hardest strength to schedule according to opponent win totals.

1114
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: You know, yes, they get Marquis Brown, but again, he

1115
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 3: averaged a weven yards per catch last year.

1116
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: Yes, he's played with Kiris and Labe.

1117
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: That helps, But Kyler Murray's in the midst of a

1118
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 3: contract holdout or he's not reporting to camp, so who knows.

1119
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen with him? Hopkins is already.

1120
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: You have Hopkins Cliff you know, Cliff ends seasons and

1121
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: you don't have Hopkins.

1122
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 3: And let's be honest, Like you lose Channer Jones, that's

1123
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 3: a big loss. You lose Chase Edmonds. Running backs don't

1124
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 3: matter that much. But remember running back was a big

1125
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 3: part of their offense last year because you know the

1126
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: injuries to Hopkins, and they also lose Christian Kirk who's

1127
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 3: had a very good season last year and was able

1128
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: to step up with you know, with Hopkins out, you

1129
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: invested in James Connor. James Connor been hurt pretty much

1130
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 3: every year of his career at some point. So I

1131
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 3: worry about the Cardinals even at eight and a half wins,

1132
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 3: it's probably I probably lean under with them, and then

1133
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 3: like the Seahawks, I think I disagree with we don't

1134
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 3: want to seeix.

1135
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: I think there might be that offseason.

1136
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 3: Well no, because here's the thing about and like I'm

1137
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 3: not betting them now, but what I'm saying is like

1138
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: they are in the market for a quarterback.

1139
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 1: But maybe they get Mayfield.

1140
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: Maybe I doubt they get Garoppolo, But like their win

1141
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 3: totals five and a half. It is juice to the over,

1142
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: but it's five and a half. They actually had nine

1143
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 3: point three Pythagoran wins last year. Only won seven games,

1144
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: so they did kind of underachieve. You know, they did

1145
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 3: get a lot of players back. It's like, to me,

1146
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: it's not not like a terrible on paper team, it's

1147
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 3: just a Drew Lock is pretty terrible. But remember Drew

1148
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 3: lock was starting for the Broncos last year. They still

1149
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,399
Speaker 3: had eight point nine wins. Now this roster isn't as good,

1150
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 3: but like, I don't think it's terrible, especially with all

1151
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: the depth they got, you know, adding Harris Quinton Jefferson

1152
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: wo SU they still got Metcalf and Lockett receiver. Like,

1153
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 3: I think this is a team that could still win

1154
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: six seven games, especially if they you know, upgrade at

1155
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 3: quarterback a little bit with with somebody like you know,

1156
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: Mayfield or Garoppolo. So like, I'm not ready to go

1157
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 3: under the Seahawks at five and a half yet, and

1158
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 3: especially with the Cardinals could struggle. But the real issue

1159
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 3: here is that you know, you're also playing ANFCU West,

1160
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: you know, and and and you're still the worst team

1161
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: in your own division.

1162
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: So I get why you think the seahs could be

1163
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: a disaster.

1164
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 3: I'm not totally there yet, but because and I also

1165
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 3: don't like Pete Carroll and you know ca yeah, like I.

1166
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: Just his philosophy.

1167
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 3: It rubs off on the offense, even though he's like

1168
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 3: a defensive coach, it rubs off on you know, he

1169
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 3: wants him to run.

1170
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: And so it's say, ah, I don't know things break

1171
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: right for the Seahawks.

1172
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 3: You know, they could kind of maybe win some one

1173
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 3: score games, but it's I don't know.

1174
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 2: See I hate the defense too, But you're right on

1175
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 2: the quarterback. That's what's what's keeping me. Although I don't

1176
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: know because well, Carolina they drafted a quarterback and you

1177
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: have Donald who you traded a second and fourth round

1178
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: draft pick or which is a disaster? We need that

1179
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: from the start. I actually don't mind the third round

1180
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: draft pick for Roll, but because the rules on the

1181
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: hot seat, some people say just wants to go back

1182
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: to college. Who cares? But does does Carolina potentially trade

1183
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: for a quarterback even though they directed one of them

1184
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 2: just sent draft picks to Donald. I tend to think, no,

1185
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 2: but who, where's Jimmy g gonna end up if not,

1186
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 2: because if Jimmy G went to Carolina, I would want

1187
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 2: no part of that under. Actually kind of like the over,

1188
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: Jimmy G's probably gonna win you a couple of games

1189
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: that Donald would lose, Jimmy is not going to probably

1190
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 2: lose them, and then there's like a three or four

1191
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 2: win swing in that. Acting about today and said we're

1192
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: probably gonna trade it, but there's no guarantee, is what

1193
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 2: it was said. So I don't know where he could

1194
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: potentially end up, but that could spring some things, I

1195
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: think ultimately, and partly what just wants to bet Arizona

1196
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: under because of Cliff and I do show like a

1197
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: half a value of wins there. That's probably where I

1198
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 2: lean here. I lean Seattle under too, But with the

1199
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 2: Jimmy G uncertainty, the known certainty of the known commodity

1200
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 2: of the rams and I have them dead on, I'm

1201
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 2: probably staying away from anything in this division.

1202
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: As Yeah, this is just a hard division to bet,

1203
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 3: not only because of uncertainty, but it's also pretty fairly priced.

1204
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 3: Right now, I know this is not yeah, so all right,

1205
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 3: so that's going to do it. Let's rechap for me.

1206
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 3: It's the Vikings plus two to seventy five to win

1207
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 3: that NFC North Packers under eleven wins, Bears under six

1208
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 3: and a half wins. Bucks to win the NFC at

1209
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 3: plus three thirty is another one I really like. And

1210
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 3: then you know, rest of the NFC South and the

1211
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 3: entirety of the NFC West is I just don't see

1212
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 3: much to invest in, especially at this time of year,

1213
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 3: right now?

1214
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: What about you?

1215
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't dis'gre that anything you said, but I'll just

1216
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: highlight my two favorites. Bears under My favorite is Giants

1217
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,399
Speaker 2: over Yeah, like a lot of things that they did,

1218
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 2: and I don't mind taking a flyer on a Giant's future,

1219
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 2: whether you want it to be win the NFC, to

1220
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: get to the playoffs, indoor, to win the Super Bowl,

1221
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: depending on your risk tolerance. And yes, giants my favorite

1222
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: bevet in the NFC.

1223
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 3: What is the stat you always have every year about

1224
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 3: the NFC East. No one wins it twice.

1225
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: No one has won it in back to back years

1226
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: since two thousand and four.

1227
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 3: The Eagles kind of jumped up to plus one sixty five.

1228
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's still a plus money bet, but not

1229
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 3: quite Is it not really enticing at that point, you

1230
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 3: could definitely win with their second best team in that division,

1231
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: but Giants ten to one to win the NFC East.

1232
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: I like that.

1233
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I like that too.

1234
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,359
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00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:19,960
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1240
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1242
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:37,160
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