WEBVTT - Hour 2 – Pat Forde, In or Out

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<v Speaker 2>spent a lot of time talking about the college football

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<v Speaker 2>playoff rankings. Pat Forty from Sports Illustrated covers the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in Columbus for Ohio State and Michigan, and

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a tweet by him that he got pepper sprayed,

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<v Speaker 2>so he was obviously close to the action. Jason Garrett,

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<v Speaker 2>former Cowboys head coach, now a contributor analyst on Football

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<v Speaker 2>Night in America, will stop by as well. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of NBA the NBA Cup rolling along. The one Soto

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<v Speaker 2>decision is supposed to be happening soon. This feels like

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<v Speaker 2>this is Scott and Boris saying to the media. Put

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<v Speaker 2>it out there. Last call for bids on Juan Soto.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember when the Sho Heo Tani sweepstakes got to six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million and we were like, what, how is this possible?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he worth it?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>It has proven to be worth six hundred million dollars?

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<v Speaker 2>But he has a global following one Soto six hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars. He's a He's a really really good hitter.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there's no global reach with one Soto. But Toronto's

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<v Speaker 2>in it, Red Sox are in it, Yankees in it,

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<v Speaker 2>Met's in it, Dodgers are in it. Maybe you'll have

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<v Speaker 2>an outlier there, but six hundred million. It's like when

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<v Speaker 2>you were growing up and somebody said somebody was a

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<v Speaker 2>millionaire and you're like, oh my god, if only, and

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<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden it was a billionaire. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we don't even blink. Somebody's a billionaire. You're like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>hey jay Z's a billionaire, Hey Lebron's a big Michael's

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<v Speaker 2>a billionaire. We don't care. Elon Musk has how many

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<v Speaker 2>Warren Buffer like, it doesn't matter. Even when you look

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<v Speaker 2>at salaries, No, Steph Curry's making sixty million dollars, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Luka Doncik will make a hundred million dollars in a

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<v Speaker 2>year in his career. At some point he will make

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<v Speaker 2>a hundred million dollars. So when it gets to be

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred million, you're like, okay, yeah, I can see it. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know who is going to pick up the tab?

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<v Speaker 2>You we got all that owner's gonna spend money. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what the owner is gonna do. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>spend the money. I'm gonna raise ticket prices, parking concession.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're helping foot the bill if Steve Cohen wants

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<v Speaker 2>to bring in one Sodo, you know, because hey, we

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<v Speaker 2>all say the following, man, I love my owner spends money. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're spending money too, because it's going to cost you.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in this together. But six hundred million. It used

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<v Speaker 2>to be like you'd go no way. Remember Mike Trout

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<v Speaker 2>signing his deal. Harper, you're going Colley three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty million dollars, Aaron Judge, I could. It wasn't that

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<v Speaker 2>long ago. Now it's six hundred million for one Soto.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, and I know I got some baseball

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<v Speaker 2>analysts they pushed back on me. Saying I'd never sign

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<v Speaker 2>him too. I mean, you're banking on somebody staying healthy

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<v Speaker 2>for twelve years. He's twenty six. Okay, if you said

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<v Speaker 2>to the Angels, would you have done it again? If

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<v Speaker 2>you had the opportunity to sign Mike Trout given what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>I could I get three really good players for six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars That might make my team better. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that would be my approach. But if you got

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<v Speaker 2>the money, you want to spend the money, and you

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<v Speaker 2>bring in one Soto, then you're the Mets great. You

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<v Speaker 2>keep him from the Yankees and the Dodgers great. I

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<v Speaker 2>just wouldn't go out of my way to watch one Sodo.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if he's on TV, I'd go, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he gets on base He certainly loved right field at

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<v Speaker 2>Yankee Stadium, that that short porch there. But otanis must

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<v Speaker 2>see TV Harper, you turn tune in to see him.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know Paul's schemes. I would tune in.

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball doesn't have enough tune in factor, Guys, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean won Soto. It's forty homers, drives

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<v Speaker 2>in one hundred and twenty runs, and what it hits

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<v Speaker 2>two eighty five and not a good fielder, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I mean, what else are you getting? I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>for six undred million, I'd like a little more. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Marvin was a Rod. The first contract where everyone thought,

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<v Speaker 2>this is outrageous. Two hundred and fifty million dollars over

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<v Speaker 2>ten years. Was that the first like really ridiculous contract,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to think, I mean, that's up there because he

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<v Speaker 2>went to Texas, And I think that that was the

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<v Speaker 2>surprising part of it is Scott Boris got Texas to

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<v Speaker 2>pony up foolishly and spend that kind of money, and

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<v Speaker 2>then even a Rod going to the Yankees, And then

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of his excuses for using steroids was

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<v Speaker 2>the pressure to live up to his contract when he

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<v Speaker 2>went to the Yankees. Yes, Bowen, do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I remember for the most public reaction

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<v Speaker 4>in the time of this show and before from a

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<v Speaker 4>player getting paid, guys like John Contact, this big stiff

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<v Speaker 4>center in the NBA. He got like, I don't know me,

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<v Speaker 4>you may have gotten like four million a year for six.

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<v Speaker 2>Years with the Atlanta Hull.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I went berserk. And then there was a guy

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<v Speaker 4>named a Donald Foyle who was a barely passable center.

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<v Speaker 2>Golden State, Golden State, and he.

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<v Speaker 4>Got a nice contract. And that's where he's like, so

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<v Speaker 4>you could be bad at your job and become a multi.

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<v Speaker 2>Nay, well, I remember John Contact, his nickname was John

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<v Speaker 2>Contract because he signed this contract and he wasn't a

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<v Speaker 2>good player. I think he played at SMU and then

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<v Speaker 2>he went to the Hawks. You know, he's serviceable big man.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the time, you're going, he's getting that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of money. He might have been getting paid more money

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<v Speaker 2>than Michael Jordan with his contract.

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<v Speaker 4>You're correct. They were both at two point five million

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<v Speaker 4>at one.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, and then Johnny contract went to four million, I

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<v Speaker 2>think correct, and you know people went apoplectic with that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the right place, right time, is really what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Soto is turning twenty six, and this is the sweet

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<v Speaker 2>spot here. He's going to get paid. He's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get paid a lot of money. And you know comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to is he worth it well?

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<v Speaker 3>To me?

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<v Speaker 2>No, But I'm just the I'm just a baseball fan.

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<v Speaker 2>If if that's my team and I get him and

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<v Speaker 2>we can win championships, okay, I don't. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if he's the guy that leads you to the Promised Land.

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<v Speaker 2>But he is a great hitter. That's it. Great hitter.

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<v Speaker 2>Otani gives you a global exposure. He's a he did

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<v Speaker 2>something no one's ever done in the history of the game,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's going to be continuing to do those things.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he goes back to pitching and hitting. He showed

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<v Speaker 2>what he could do. Hey, I can't pitch, Well, let

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<v Speaker 2>me show you what I can do. And then you

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<v Speaker 2>have the entire you know, far East Japanese market, like

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<v Speaker 2>you have all of that Dodger games over there. What

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<v Speaker 2>those numbers were during the World Series, the playoffs over there. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I can capitalize on. I can monetize that Wan Soto,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't monetize that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Marvin and we talked baseball all season long because

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<v Speaker 5>of one guy show Hal Tani. We're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>So eight seven seven three DP show email andres s

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<v Speaker 2>Dpadan Patrick dot com Twitter handle at DP show. The

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<v Speaker 2>Texans are still a little salty with the disease al

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<v Speaker 2>Shire suspension. Now, we talked about it a lot, and

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about it yesterday. Three game suspension. Nick Cassario

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<v Speaker 2>is the Texans GM and he thinks that his player

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<v Speaker 2>has well. The portrait of him is incorrect of who

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<v Speaker 2>this player is. Look, it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the big thing from our standpoint and all

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<v Speaker 6>teams want this is just some level of consistency. And

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<v Speaker 6>we've talked to the league quite frankly, but we don't

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<v Speaker 6>have a good explanation. Dimiko talked to him yesterday. So

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it is what it is. I'm sure Aziz

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<v Speaker 6>will go through whatever process he's going to go through,

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<v Speaker 6>and then we'll deal with it accordingly. But I think

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<v Speaker 6>what we take umbragees is just the picture that's been

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<v Speaker 6>painted about disease, his intentions, who he is as a person.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's quite frankly, it's bold, and it's unfair

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<v Speaker 6>the individual.

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<v Speaker 2>That's unfair of the organization.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, we love everything about as he's all shay here,

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<v Speaker 6>what he means to this team, what he brings.

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<v Speaker 2>To this to this team. Okay, I'm sure he is

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<v Speaker 2>a good guy. I think he was working something with

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<v Speaker 2>United Way yesterday. He's a team captain, He's got two

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<v Speaker 2>priors to this. He punched somebody he wants grab Brady

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<v Speaker 2>around the neck. He hit Tony Pollard out of bounds

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<v Speaker 2>two yards out of bounds from behind. Can you blame

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor Lawrence that he slid too late? Okay? Your player

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<v Speaker 2>went up top with a forum right to his head,

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<v Speaker 2>right to his head. So look, you're defending your player. Great,

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<v Speaker 2>Not sure why you are. Feels like you're over defending

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<v Speaker 2>your player. Are you sending a message here? Like, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the message you're sending here? Hey, we support our guys. Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 2>tell me how you support him with the other plays

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<v Speaker 2>that he had. I'd like to hear that. And why

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<v Speaker 2>is it You can complain about the punishment, but you

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<v Speaker 2>can't complain about the officials on a call like he's

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<v Speaker 2>not getting Nick Cassario, The GM doesn't get suspended or punished.

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<v Speaker 2>If he's critical of the punishment, you don't get punished

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<v Speaker 2>by the NFL. But if you criticize, if he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the officials are terrible, well he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>get fined fifty thousand dollars. You could be critical of

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL handing out the punishment to your player and

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL doesn't do anything about it. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>you got to be fair with the totality of this

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<v Speaker 2>player in his career. If he didn't have any priors,

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe we look at this differently, and these are

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<v Speaker 2>recent priors. Is it going to get maybe reduced to

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<v Speaker 2>two games if they appeal? Maybe? Like, okay, so what

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<v Speaker 2>you couldn't get him off the field. He took his

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<v Speaker 2>helmet off, you know. And then you have your head

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<v Speaker 2>coach who's calling out Jacksonville saying they overreacted. Can somebody

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<v Speaker 2>please ask Damiko Ryans coach, if CJ. Stroud got hit

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<v Speaker 2>like that by a Jacksonville player and your players didn't

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<v Speaker 2>defend him, how would you feel that's over That's a

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<v Speaker 2>silly comment by him. They overreacted. Their franchise quarterback is

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<v Speaker 2>knocked out. If your franchise quarterback was knocked out and

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<v Speaker 2>your players didn't go on the field, how would you

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<v Speaker 2>have reacted? That's it, coach, you got an answer? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>you don't. Okay, we move on from that. It's silly

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<v Speaker 2>to say that every coach wants his player to be

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<v Speaker 2>out there to defend his quarterback after a cheap shot

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and I would want the Texans to do

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<v Speaker 2>the same if it happened to CJ.

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<v Speaker 3>Stroud.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, yeah, point, Could you make the case though,

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<v Speaker 4>that the defense if this were a star defensive player,

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<v Speaker 4>he would not have been fined the same or suspended

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<v Speaker 4>the same such as same exact hit TJ. Watt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I can't do that. Well. I think that'd

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<v Speaker 2>be like if I said, if Jakobe Brissett got hit,

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<v Speaker 2>is somebody going to be suspended?

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that's kind of what Nick Casaria is saying,

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<v Speaker 4>that my guy, because he's a nobody, is getting lit

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<v Speaker 4>up more than he should for a hit that happens.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>But his player has priors here, and he's known only

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<v Speaker 2>because of the priors. Nobody's saying, boy, that guy is

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<v Speaker 2>an unbelievable player. They're talking about the other hits that

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<v Speaker 2>he had that led to this. I mean, if TJ.

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<v Speaker 2>Watt did the same thing, then I would hope that

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<v Speaker 2>they would suspend him as well. Now, maybe you get

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<v Speaker 2>the benefit of the doubt there. If that's what Nick

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<v Speaker 2>Cassario is saying, good luck with that. But that that

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<v Speaker 2>we're sorry your player is not known like TJ. Watt is,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get the benefit of the doubt. He created

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<v Speaker 2>this situation where he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's a marquee defensive player and he's doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they more lenient? I hope they're not. Maybe they are,

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<v Speaker 2>but still the Texans they can they can blame their

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<v Speaker 2>player for putting their player in that situation.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Poll question for hour two is gonna be one seed?

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<v Speaker 7>Let me update you from our one since we had

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<v Speaker 7>two of them. Alabama will ultimately get into the twelve

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<v Speaker 7>team playoff because let's see right now, ninety one percent

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<v Speaker 7>of the audience say it's because they're Alabama, not because

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<v Speaker 7>they deserve to be in. Okay, ninety one percent, that's

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<v Speaker 7>a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 7>Miami will ultimately get left out of the twelve team

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<v Speaker 7>playoff because fifty three percent is because they just don't

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<v Speaker 7>be in, not because they just don't have the same

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<v Speaker 7>name value anymore. Okay, they are down a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Do we have something for hour two that we're going with.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I did think about, just to see if we

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<v Speaker 7>get a different result. The Miami Hurricanes got hosed or

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<v Speaker 7>hosed themselves just because the wording is so it's so wonderful,

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah who hosed who themselves? Or yeah, you could Todd

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<v Speaker 7>had another one too. It's the two or four falls

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<v Speaker 7>no school has a strong case if they get left

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<v Speaker 7>out of the college football playoffs. I think that's kind

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<v Speaker 7>of fair. Nobody really has a case if they get

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<v Speaker 7>left out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Did Florida State have a case last year? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>They did? They were undefeated, It's just they didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>their quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And we've been talking a lot.

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<v Speaker 8>Recent weeks on how there's really no great team in

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<v Speaker 8>college football. So because of that, who could really feel

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<v Speaker 8>that snubbed if they're number thirteen or fourteen after we

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<v Speaker 8>hear what happens on Sunday from the selection.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's still going to be, you know, teams that complain.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's weird. Do we look at Oregon as

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<v Speaker 2>a great team? Probably not undefeated? But I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if we recognize them even though they're in the Big

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<v Speaker 2>Ten now. But it still feels like it's an sec

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<v Speaker 2>world that we live in. Now. You're talking about Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>and you're talking about Alabama, and then you get around

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<v Speaker 2>to like Notre Dame is really good, Like that's a

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<v Speaker 2>really solid go back to when Alabama and Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>played what was that a decade ago? And that was ugly,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's when you saw Oh my gosh, that's SEC football, Alabama.

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<v Speaker 2>You better, you know, pick up your game. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Big Ten had to do that as well. Big

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<v Speaker 2>Ten realized we got to get bigger, We got we

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<v Speaker 2>gotta get speed. We have to recruit different athletes here,

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<v Speaker 2>different parts of the country. And Notre Dame it always

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<v Speaker 2>felt like Notre Dame was his step slower, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't I didn't know if it was their

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<v Speaker 2>shoes or if it was the turf or my shoes

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<v Speaker 2>or bag. Yeah, that's a great call. Hey, why are

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<v Speaker 2>we slower than everybody else?

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<v Speaker 7>We are?

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<v Speaker 4>Those pleas they look really slow. They ran like they

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<v Speaker 4>were irish. Hey, oh why can they make that shoke?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's right, you can. All right. When we come back,

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<v Speaker 2>Pat forty will join us. You'll clear up all of

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<v Speaker 2>this about college football, and we'll talk about what it's

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<v Speaker 2>like to get pepper sprayed in Columbus, Ohio. We're back

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<v Speaker 2>He might be the first guest we've had on who

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<v Speaker 2>has been pepper sprayed, at least officially pepper sprayed. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure recently pepper sprayed. He's Pat forty from Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Illustrated and he was there in Columbus, Ohio State and Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>How does it feel to get pepper sprayed? Penn?

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't taste good, Dan, My food review of pepper

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<v Speaker 3>spray is not overwhelmingly positive. It really didn't get in

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<v Speaker 3>my eyes much. I was wearing glasses and maybe that

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<v Speaker 3>a help. But it got in my mouth and it's unpleasant,

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<v Speaker 3>that's for sure. Mostly I was like, what the hell

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<v Speaker 3>is actually happening here? And then people started reeling out

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<v Speaker 3>of there with you know, their eyes watering and choking

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<v Speaker 3>and everything. I was like, Oh, we've just been pepper sprayed.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a new college football achievement for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, when's college football, so it should be

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<v Speaker 2>doctor pepper spray. You know, with the big sponsor, you

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<v Speaker 2>can use that if you want. How did it get

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<v Speaker 2>to the point where pepper spray was needed after that game.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure. It felt to me a little like

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<v Speaker 3>an overreaction. I mean, it was violent in there, for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't get all the way into the middle of

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<v Speaker 3>the octagon as it were, But I mean there were punches,

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<v Speaker 3>kicks being thrown, people getting bloodied. But I thought that

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<v Speaker 3>this could have been handled without all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 3>guys wearing sheriff jackets just turning around and spraying wide swaths.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know. I think it was an overreaction

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<v Speaker 3>to a couple of teams overreacting.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, does college football look at this bigger picture? We've

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<v Speaker 2>seen a recent outbreak in planting the flag here? Does

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<v Speaker 2>college football care about this? The NCAA care to act

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<v Speaker 2>upon this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, college football cares for sure. The NCUBA would probably

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<v Speaker 3>like to care, but it's basically been kicked out of

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<v Speaker 3>college football. The conferences don't like the look. We've heard

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<v Speaker 3>from some commissioners and some other people that think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a bad look. It'll be one of those you know,

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<v Speaker 3>January NCAA Conventions Spring Conference meetings talking points, and they'll

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<v Speaker 3>kick it around. I wouldn't be surprised if they come

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<v Speaker 3>up with some sort of fine structures, or if they

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<v Speaker 3>come up with a and it's gonna be conferenced by conference,

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<v Speaker 3>but a legislation of like you don't bring your flags

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<v Speaker 3>on the road, or you got to put your flags

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<v Speaker 3>in the locker room with five minutes left in the

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<v Speaker 3>game or whatever. You can't have nice things, Dan, if

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<v Speaker 3>you can't play nicely.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, your reaction to the latest rankings.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought Miami got screwed. It's close. It's not like

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<v Speaker 3>this is, you know, the biggest Travis Dew we've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would have had Miami ahead of Alabama. But

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen historically Alabama gets in the SEC gets what

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<v Speaker 3>it wants. Greg sank all but planted his flag in

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<v Speaker 3>October saying this has to go incredibly well. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think a lot of people took that as marching orders

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<v Speaker 3>of we better get all of our teams in that

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<v Speaker 3>deserve to get in, maybe even some that don't deserve

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<v Speaker 3>to get in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wonder, and I said this when it happened.

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<v Speaker 2>The SEC is going to get in at least three schools.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it almost feels like, all right, we're gonna sign

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<v Speaker 2>up for this. We're gonna play along with you, but

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<v Speaker 2>you better be fair to us. At the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the year, Alabama is getting in because of their brand.

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<v Speaker 2>Miami used to have a brand. They don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>brand anymore. How much of a factor do you think

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<v Speaker 2>that that has played in.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's undeniable. I mean, they can try to

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<v Speaker 3>deny it, but I don't believe it. I think the

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<v Speaker 3>Alabama brand is so strong that losses for them seem

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<v Speaker 3>to matter less. Certain wins even seem to matter more.

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<v Speaker 3>It may just mean more that The point where I thought,

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<v Speaker 3>not necessarily that the fix is in, but that they

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<v Speaker 3>were excessively enamored with the Alabama brand was two weeks

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<v Speaker 3>ago when they beat Mercer, an FCS team had moved

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<v Speaker 3>up three spots. They moved up three spots in the

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<v Speaker 3>rankings by beating Mercer. Then they lose by three touchdowns

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<v Speaker 3>to Oklahoma. But Ward Manuel comes out and says, well,

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<v Speaker 3>Miami wasn't playing well at the end. Was Alabama playing well?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I don't know what goes on in those meetings.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if, like, are there directives that go

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<v Speaker 2>on when the committee gets together.

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<v Speaker 3>We all don't know what goes on in the meetings,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's one of the biggest frustrations of this really

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<v Speaker 3>is just a lack of real knowledge. It'd be great

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<v Speaker 3>to have a camera in there, to have a reporter

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<v Speaker 3>in there, to have something in there to tell the

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<v Speaker 3>public what actually does happen, what are the discussion points,

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<v Speaker 3>what you know, where are the tension points? And yes,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the discussion level of how's this going to look

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<v Speaker 3>or how's this going to play? Those things I would

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<v Speaker 3>love to know, but we don't really have an accurate

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<v Speaker 3>summation of that.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have gotten to a point where and these

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<v Speaker 2>commissioners know they don't want to play in a conference

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<v Speaker 2>championship game because of the risk it was a money

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<v Speaker 2>grab for these conferences. Well now the money's available in

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<v Speaker 2>the twelve team playoff. They want to slowly diminish what

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<v Speaker 2>these conference championship games means, certainly for the Big Ten

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<v Speaker 2>and the SEC. So how do you do that where

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of you can't eradicate, but how do you

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<v Speaker 2>diminish them? Therefore, don't you know these games don't really

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<v Speaker 2>mean that much other than you're going to win your

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<v Speaker 2>conference championship?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? I don't know. It's a difficult one. Because they're

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<v Speaker 3>addicted to the money from that. They're adicted to the

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<v Speaker 3>money period from all sources, but they like the money

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<v Speaker 3>that comes with this. They also they like the celebration

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<v Speaker 3>of the league court of sort of stage that it

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<v Speaker 3>gives them. The big ten networks are going to do

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<v Speaker 3>nothing but right talk about and laud the league for

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<v Speaker 3>two days in Indianapolis. The SEC network's going to do

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing in Atlanta. The ACC network will do

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing in Charlotte. The leagues like that, and

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<v Speaker 3>they like the money. So I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 3>separate that and diminish the conference championship more. I've never

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<v Speaker 3>liked the conference championships. I thought they were double jeopardy

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<v Speaker 3>for the best teams, had chance for a fluky outcome,

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<v Speaker 3>hands for injuries. But now you're right with the playoff

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<v Speaker 3>and the way we've got it structured, it's even less

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<v Speaker 3>important and probably more damaging. Although you can at least

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<v Speaker 3>safeguard to a degree, which I think they're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>do here, that both teams in your conference championship are

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<v Speaker 3>probably getting in to the playoff.

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<v Speaker 2>He's pad forty from Sports Illustrated senior writer. The teams

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<v Speaker 2>that are on the bubble. Who could be bounced this

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<v Speaker 2>weekend most likely?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean Alabama's rooting hard for SMU because if

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<v Speaker 3>Clemson wins, Alabama theoretically could be out, but the committee

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<v Speaker 3>could also just find another way to keep Alabama in

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<v Speaker 3>and bounce SMU. So the ACC Championship game, I think

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<v Speaker 3>is really where it's at. The Mountain West Championship game

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<v Speaker 3>between Boise and UNLV is interesting, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>can Boise hold on to a top four seed and

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<v Speaker 3>a first round by and probably kick the Big twelve

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<v Speaker 3>into playing a first round road game with a champion

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<v Speaker 3>of that league. So those are the two spots, The

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<v Speaker 3>ACC and the Mountain West games, I think are the

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<v Speaker 3>two that where there's really some actual tension about what

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<v Speaker 3>might happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think changes about the playoffs next year?

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<v Speaker 3>I would suspect, whether it's next year, whether it's twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven, more likely that the first round buys do

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<v Speaker 3>not go to four conference champions, that they will go

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<v Speaker 3>to the four highest ranked teams. I think the Big

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<v Speaker 3>ten and SEC will say, okay, enough of that, we

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<v Speaker 3>let you stay in our tournament. Big twelve in ACC,

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<v Speaker 3>but in Mountain West or whoever, but you're not getting

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<v Speaker 3>the buys and they will try to take all of.

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<v Speaker 2>Those any chance. Travis Hunter wins the Heisman unanimously.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think so. I think there's a decent

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<v Speaker 3>support for Ashton Genty, who's a great player. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Travis Hunter wins, and probably wins by a considerable margin.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think Ashton Genty, and especially if he puts

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<v Speaker 3>up two hundred yards Friday night, you know, that'll probably

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<v Speaker 3>help him some more. Again, I don't think Travis Hunter loses,

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<v Speaker 3>but but I don't think it's an absolute landslide.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I argued that Shador Sanders has kind of quietly,

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<v Speaker 2>which is hard to say about Colorado and being Dion

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:16.199
<v Speaker 2>Sun quietly had an unbelievable season, and that dude can

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 2>take some punishment he gets hit. Travis Hunter is exciting

0:25:21.600 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 2>and the potential is wonderful. You know, I was making

0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:29.240
<v Speaker 2>a case Genti and Shaudour, what they've meant to their

0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 2>teams probably more valuable than Travis Hunter is to Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that crazy to say?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? No, I mean you can make that argument. I

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:40.919
<v Speaker 3>would say Travis Hunter might be more valuable because he

0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:44.440
<v Speaker 3>does indeed play two positions. But Shoudroy Sanders has been unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if he's in the top three, he deserves it.

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<v Speaker 3>Your point about him getting hit and taking it is

0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:55.320
<v Speaker 3>well made, because that is one tough quarterback. He takes

0:25:55.320 --> 0:25:58.040
<v Speaker 3>a pounding, he gets sacked a lot, he holds the ball,

0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:02.280
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't bail out on play. It's impressive what he's

0:26:02.280 --> 0:26:04.479
<v Speaker 3>done this year. He's a really, really good player.

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<v Speaker 2>Best running back that you ever saw, I mean, Genty

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<v Speaker 2>is getting into that Barry Sanders territory with these numbers.

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Barry did it, of course, you know, against better competition probably,

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<v Speaker 2>but best running back you ever saw.

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<v Speaker 3>In person in college, I would say Adrian Peterson. He

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<v Speaker 3>was just unbelievable at Oklahoma. Now, you know all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Barry Sanders, you watched him and it was

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<v Speaker 3>like watching a magician or like an adult playing with

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:35.320
<v Speaker 3>children where nobody could just catch him. He just made

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 3>you look silly. So those two come to mind. Walter Payton,

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:42.119
<v Speaker 3>of course, but I didn't see him in college. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I love the way Walter Payton just defeated tacklers. But Genty.

0:26:46.960 --> 0:26:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Genty's legit, man, He's got size and he's just got

0:26:50.160 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 3>great feet. I mean his feet. He reminds me of

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Ladanian Tomlinson that that comparisons made can catch the ball

0:26:56.720 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 3>as well. And he's just he's a heck of a player.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to talk to you. And are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC title game?

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<v Speaker 3>I am, yes, gonna go see if Clemson can drop

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<v Speaker 3>something in the punch bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think the chances are you get pepper

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<v Speaker 2>sprayed again?

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:16.119
<v Speaker 3>I think much lower. Okay, a horseshoe, much lower. But

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 3>I might be back in the horse shoe if I

0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:20.920
<v Speaker 3>have a first round game and I'll be bringing protecting here.

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<v Speaker 2>How safe is Ryan Day in your opinion?

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's relatively safe if he wants to be safe.

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<v Speaker 3>If he doesn't want to go, I think he might

0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 3>be willing to reconsider how much he wants to be there.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't see.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hold on that. Ryan Day may say, you know what,

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be under this microscope anymore.

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I don't think that's out of the question.

0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 3>That this has become almost an untenable situation. If he

0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 3>can get another job that wants to pay him ten

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<v Speaker 3>million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>A year, what about Urban Meyer coming back to Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's not. I don't think so. I don't think that

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 3>would happen. Ross Biorke. I think the new ad there,

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 3>if he were to get the chance to make a hire,

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.879
<v Speaker 3>I think he would want to establish his own sort

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<v Speaker 3>of signature on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I think the people who got rid of

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<v Speaker 2>urban Meyer aren't there at Ohio State anymore.

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:20.879
<v Speaker 3>They're not. No, that's true. I mean it would be

0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 3>a fresh slate, but I still am not sure. I

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:27.480
<v Speaker 3>think ross Byork has enough ambition that he was like,

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm not bringing back a guy that's going to be

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<v Speaker 3>you know, just immediately dwarf me.

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<v Speaker 2>He's patent forty. He's not afraid of your pepper spray,

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:36.720
<v Speaker 2>and he could be coming to a stadium near you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, pat thank you. That's bad forty going to

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<v Speaker 2>the ACC title gay probably won't get pepper sprayed. You know,

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:48.600
<v Speaker 2>in college football fans are so passionate. I saw where

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Pad forty put out, hey, I just got pepper sprayed,

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 2>and then I saw a comment from a college football

0:28:54.480 --> 0:29:00.040
<v Speaker 2>fan who said, good spray him again. I think that

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 2>must have said something about somebody's fan base, you know,

0:29:03.960 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 2>and they hold those things for dear life. I think

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 2>there are people still upset at Chris Fowler back to

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>the Peyton Manning Wow for the Heisman with Charles Woodson.

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:17.560
<v Speaker 4>It was a big deal for decades.

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:20.880
<v Speaker 2>The Michigan fans still frosty at him, or is at

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee fans who are frosty.

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:25.880
<v Speaker 4>At Tennessee fans and back in the day Tennessee from

0:29:25.880 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 4>what I was told, said no a couple of times

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 4>to game day coming back, they were salty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Marmon.

0:29:32.720 --> 0:29:36.680
<v Speaker 5>Is there a difference between passionate and absolutely insane?

0:29:38.920 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's close. I think they're They're in the same

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 2>zip code, neighborhood, on the same block. Probably it doesn't

0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 2>take much effort to get from one to the other.

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 5>Yes, Mart, It's like Harvey Updyke. He was passionate and

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 5>then he was the guy that Jos Corners. Yeah he

0:29:57.760 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 5>poisoned the trees.

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, the Alabama fan Yeah, okay, yes, Tom, that

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 2>was a pretty big thing that Pat just dropped that.

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 5>Ryan Day would say, I've had enough year.

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 8>I just don't need this aggravation and stress.

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm done. Yeah, yeah, I hadn't heard that. Now is

0:30:12.920 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 2>he reporting that?

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 7>Thinking now they're getting into those waters that we love to.

0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know him around and you're right, well, no,

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Pat's not an insider. Adam Schefter is an insider. And

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Schefty said I could see Ben ben Johnson at Detroit

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 2>being interested in the Bear's job. Now that's not a report.

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 2>But when the insider says I could see where Ben

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.440
<v Speaker 2>Johnson would be interested in the Bears, that makes me

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 2>a little nervous. Yeah. Seeon.

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.920
<v Speaker 7>But what's what really is the difference between what Pat

0:30:48.920 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 7>Forty does and what Adam Schefter does.

0:30:50.560 --> 0:30:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Well, Schefty is when he says it, it's that's the

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 2>inside part of this. Pat reports on. I don't think

0:30:57.440 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 2>his job is an insider, He's a writer. Schefty's an

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 2>information guy. Chefty doesn't write. Pat Forty wrote about the

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Ohio State Michigan game. Schefty could have a report on

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Ryan Day leaving to go to the NFL. I mean

0:31:14.480 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 2>the lines are blurred because Schefty wants to be a personality,

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>so he might say things where hey, I could see that,

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 2>or I'm hearing you know. The people in Chicago ran

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 2>with this yesterday that Adam was saying, Hey, I could

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 2>see where Ben Johnson would be interested in the bears

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>well because he's saying it like Schefty can't have an

0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 2>opinion with his job.

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, when you're an insider, when you have an opinion,

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 2>then it feels like that's a report. Not Hey, I

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 2>could see that, But you can't do that because people

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 2>run with that like they did in Chicago. Yes, pun quickly.

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.160
<v Speaker 4>I want to go back to what Pat Forty said

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 4>about Ryan Data. It is pretty surprising he could see

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 4>them just leaving Ohio State. Seaton said something earlier in

0:31:58.280 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 4>the week about Ohio State and how it's messed up

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.600
<v Speaker 4>that a team a fan base bases so much of

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.560
<v Speaker 4>their worth or whatever you want to call it off

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 4>one game a year and that doesn't help the franchise overall.

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:14.920
<v Speaker 4>And maybe that's what Ryan Day's thinking, but.

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 2>That's I mean, coaches have been fired because they didn't

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 2>do well against Michigan or against Ohio State. It's happened before.

0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>It's the importance of that Now. I think with the

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 2>twelve team playoff, that might relax that a little bit

0:32:30.720 --> 0:32:33.040
<v Speaker 2>because if you lost that game, you had no chance

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 2>playing for a national championship. Now you can. Ohio State

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 2>is still in the mix here. But before it was

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 2>like you lost that game, you lost the integrity of

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:48.800
<v Speaker 2>an entire state. And Ryan Day may just say, look,

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't want any more of this now. I hadn't

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 2>heard that before.

0:32:53.440 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 3>I did.

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I have friends in Columbus and they were like, you know,

0:32:55.840 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>there's a little chatter here. I go, what does that mean? Ah?

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 2>You know some people talk about what if urban Meyer?

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I said, I can't deal in what if urban Meyer

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:08.160
<v Speaker 2>comes back? Is there a report? Then we have something here?

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Not I could see that. I don't see it, but

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, crazier things have happened. Take a break. More

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 2>phone calls coming up. Jason Garrett, former Cowboys coach, coming

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 2>up next hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition

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<v Speaker 1>of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Wapp Coming up, we will give you our NOVEMBP novem VP,

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<v Speaker 2>the MVP of November. Nah, yeah, I know, I know.

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 2>It's just I'm having a hard time with novem VP.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you're nailing it.

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, NOVEMVP. That'll be coming up. Dan Levotard is going

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 2>to join us the voice of Miami Football we'll see

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 2>if he's upset with the U not in the playoffs

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 2>on the outside looking in and Jason Garrett, uh, he

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>will join us on loan from Football Night in America.

0:34:03.760 --> 0:34:07.719
<v Speaker 2>Time to play in or out. You're either in or

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:11.120
<v Speaker 2>you're out, Pauly some topics please.

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:14.480
<v Speaker 4>So I present the topic. You say in, if you're in, out,

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.760
<v Speaker 4>if you're out. Just do it that way. We'll be fine,

0:34:17.480 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 4>not out out unless you really really mean it. So

0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:21.240
<v Speaker 4>I guess you can say.

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 2>Out out, but you can be in in.

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah, like, I'm in in in, You're really in?

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:34:28.000 --> 0:34:35.720
<v Speaker 4>Jameis Winston's future as NFL future. Oh, okay, Jameis Winston's

0:34:35.800 --> 0:34:36.480
<v Speaker 4>NFL future.

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm in.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.160
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's a tensted No, I'm in, like where he

0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 4>gets the keys to his own franchise again.

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:46.520
<v Speaker 2>In, Well, you didn't say that. Now you're changing the

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 2>question again.

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:49.439
<v Speaker 4>It works.

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm in.

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:54.399
<v Speaker 4>It means he gets to start even when Deshaun Watson's back.

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know if Deshaun Watson's back. So you're

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm in, all right? Extremely out out?

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:04.439
<v Speaker 3>Wow, I'm out.

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 8>I am in. The Lord will deliver more starts.

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, okay, Corinthians.

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 4>Justin Tucker's future in the NFL.

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Come in, I'm still in, still in out out and

0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm in.

0:35:24.920 --> 0:35:27.319
<v Speaker 4>I should have said split the uprights are wide right?

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:32.359
<v Speaker 4>No offense? All right? Soon, here's the one. Here's one

0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.280
<v Speaker 4>they just thought of. Russell Wilson went in the Comeback

0:35:35.280 --> 0:35:38.239
<v Speaker 4>Player of the Year award in in or out out?

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Did anybody almost die?

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:45.000
<v Speaker 4>Russell died a perception death as an NFL starting quarterback?

0:35:45.160 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? But did he die and come back to life

0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.239
<v Speaker 2>a couple of times like tomorrow Hamlin who didn't even

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:54.879
<v Speaker 2>win and win. So you know, is Joe Flaccos so eligible?

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, I would say Russell Wilson should be eligible

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 2>for that? Yeah, this is it. This is a massive

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 2>comeback year for him. Is he not?

0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 4>He's not eligible?

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Is he? I don't know if he is or not?

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 4>Hold on, well, he may have a good point here.

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:07.799
<v Speaker 7>What if we did a player who might not be

0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:10.000
<v Speaker 7>eligible for Comeback Player of the Year, but it should

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:13.160
<v Speaker 7>be you start Russell Wilson Junior the third I'll throw

0:36:13.239 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 7>Sam Donald on there. Okay, that dude, he is having

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 7>a comeback year. If ever there was one, Okay, I

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.279
<v Speaker 7>don't know who else could be on that poll question, But.

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:25.319
<v Speaker 2>Can Bryce Young win comeback Player of the Year.

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<v Speaker 7>Maybe it feels a little early, Okay, feels a little early, yes.

0:36:31.200 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Barkley, heck yeah, yeah, I'd roll with that. Heck yeah.

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:37.720
<v Speaker 4>So this is you didn't lose a limb or a relative,

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:40.120
<v Speaker 4>but you just weren't that great.

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:45.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, more of a comeback Saquon Barkley or Russell Wilson

0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Junior the third? Like Russ was dead, Russ Russ.

0:36:51.360 --> 0:36:53.799
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's really it's really to me, it's a question

0:36:53.880 --> 0:36:56.080
<v Speaker 7>between Russell Wilson and Sam Donald because he was dead

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 7>in the water and now was a guy.

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 4>I think both I could be free. Ah Darnald and

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:02.399
<v Speaker 4>Russ Walls.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, would you sign up Russell Wilson right now? Three years,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred million dollars if you're Pittsburgh, go around the room,

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<v Speaker 2>Todd in or out out? Seaton three years one hundred million,

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<v Speaker 2>three years, one hundred million dollars for Russell Wilson Junior.

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<v Speaker 2>The third? Uh in or out? What's the other option?

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<v Speaker 2>Keeping just a fields? Whatever they decide they go elsewhere. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll throw them a hunter mill. Why not? Good for you, buddy, Yeah, yeah, Marvin,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 4>Paulie, I'm in. That's thirty three million a year. That's respectable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in for Russell Wilson, not inter out. Yes, Ton,

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<v Speaker 2>would Russe.

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<v Speaker 8>Wilson embrace or be offended by a Comeback Player of

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<v Speaker 8>the Year award if he was to receive something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'd be fine with them. I think he'd be. Okay, Yes, Pauli,

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<v Speaker 2>here we go.

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<v Speaker 4>Interer out. Dan Lanning of Oregon is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a scorching hot NFL head coaching candidate in a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>If you keep mentioning it, then I think it might happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm making it. You are making it happen.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's gonna be wildly hot as an NFL candidate,

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<v Speaker 4>and actually right now, but in a month from.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm going to be out on that. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he needs another year. Yeah, well, you might be right.

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<v Speaker 2>He still could be scorching hot. Marvin, I'm out, Seaton,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm out, Tod I'm out too, Okay, in, Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's one I'd rather watch the first round of the

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<v Speaker 4>college football playoffs over the first round of the NFL playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>M Todd in a round.

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<v Speaker 5>I am out. I gotta go NFL playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, see no counter.

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<v Speaker 7>If I'm in, I'm watching college football. If I'm out,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm watching the NFL. I'm in on watching college football. Marvin,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm out watching the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching the college football. I'm in there.

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<v Speaker 4>You go interesting. This is the last one. And this

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<v Speaker 4>was I put this one on in or out five

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<v Speaker 4>weeks ago and everybody was out except for me. I

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<v Speaker 4>was in. This will be Lebron James final season.

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<v Speaker 2>Todd out seatan. I think I'm out, Marvin out.

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<v Speaker 5>He definitely announces it so he can get the tour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm out on this.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I think he announces that the All Star

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<v Speaker 4>break that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's done this year. Yep, it looks like he's done,

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<v Speaker 2>gotta admit. Yeah, but take away the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Prior to that, he was one of the ten best

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<v Speaker 2>players in the game. Yeah, but now he stopped playing.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think he can't play. He wants to do

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<v Speaker 2>what Michael Jordan did and play eighty two games, and

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<v Speaker 2>he shouldn't be playing eighty two games, or he shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be averaging thirty five minutes a game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I think the eighty two goal is all part

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<v Speaker 4>of this being the last season they're not. The Lakers

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<v Speaker 4>are a mile least.

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<v Speaker 2>Threatening seventh or eight seeded two right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's aware, he's a smart guy, that he's

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<v Speaker 4>not winning a title.

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<v Speaker 6>List.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he would.

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<v Speaker 4>He got a son in the league. He's gonna play

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<v Speaker 4>eighty two and out and go on to many many

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<v Speaker 4>other things.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I might be with Paulie if they didn't play

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<v Speaker 5>in Cleveland, Like, had they had not played in Cleveland already,

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<v Speaker 5>then I would have been with him. So I'm still out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still so Paulie thinks that this is Lebron's last year.

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<v Speaker 2>He announces it at the All Star Game. Okay, that'd

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<v Speaker 2>be a nice pea bomb. Yeah, be nice people.

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<v Speaker 4>He signed a three year contract tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like he's playing one more year. I agree

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<v Speaker 2>with Marvin. It feels like it would be. Hey, next

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<v Speaker 2>year is my last year? Yeah, yes, right, Marvin, you

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<v Speaker 2>see that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, I definitely see him doing the Kobe Tour.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it might be one year too long. Could be

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<v Speaker 2>this year might be one year too long. Well, no question,

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<v Speaker 2>Martin like getting clicks. Dan Levittard he'll defend the you

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<v Speaker 2>should the U be in the College football playoffs ands

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<v Speaker 2>and Garrett he'll join us as well. Final Hour in

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<v Speaker 2>this Wednesday, right after this