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Speaker 2: spent a lot of time talking about the college football
Speaker 2: playoff rankings. Pat Forty from Sports Illustrated covers the sport.
Speaker 2: He was in Columbus for Ohio State and Michigan, and
Speaker 2: I saw a tweet by him that he got pepper sprayed,
Speaker 2: so he was obviously close to the action. Jason Garrett,
Speaker 2: former Cowboys head coach, now a contributor analyst on Football
Speaker 2: Night in America, will stop by as well. A lot
Speaker 2: of NBA the NBA Cup rolling along. The one Soto
Speaker 2: decision is supposed to be happening soon. This feels like
Speaker 2: this is Scott and Boris saying to the media. Put
Speaker 2: it out there. Last call for bids on Juan Soto.
Speaker 2: Remember when the Sho Heo Tani sweepstakes got to six
Speaker 2: hundred million and we were like, what, how is this possible?
Speaker 2: Is he worth it?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: It has proven to be worth six hundred million dollars?
Speaker 2: But he has a global following one Soto six hundred
Speaker 2: million dollars. He's a He's a really really good hitter.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: There's there's no global reach with one Soto. But Toronto's
Speaker 2: in it, Red Sox are in it, Yankees in it,
Speaker 2: Met's in it, Dodgers are in it. Maybe you'll have
Speaker 2: an outlier there, but six hundred million. It's like when
Speaker 2: you were growing up and somebody said somebody was a
Speaker 2: millionaire and you're like, oh my god, if only, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden it was a billionaire. Now
Speaker 2: we don't even blink. Somebody's a billionaire. You're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: hey jay Z's a billionaire, Hey Lebron's a big Michael's
Speaker 2: a billionaire. We don't care. Elon Musk has how many
Speaker 2: Warren Buffer like, it doesn't matter. Even when you look
Speaker 2: at salaries, No, Steph Curry's making sixty million dollars, Okay,
Speaker 2: Luka Doncik will make a hundred million dollars in a
Speaker 2: year in his career. At some point he will make
Speaker 2: a hundred million dollars. So when it gets to be
Speaker 2: six hundred million, you're like, okay, yeah, I can see it. Well,
Speaker 2: you know who is going to pick up the tab?
Speaker 2: You we got all that owner's gonna spend money. Well,
Speaker 2: you know what the owner is gonna do. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: spend the money. I'm gonna raise ticket prices, parking concession.
Speaker 2: So you're helping foot the bill if Steve Cohen wants
Speaker 2: to bring in one Sodo, you know, because hey, we
Speaker 2: all say the following, man, I love my owner spends money. Well,
Speaker 2: you're spending money too, because it's going to cost you.
Speaker 2: We're in this together. But six hundred million. It used
Speaker 2: to be like you'd go no way. Remember Mike Trout
Speaker 2: signing his deal. Harper, you're going Colley three hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty million dollars, Aaron Judge, I could. It wasn't that
Speaker 2: long ago. Now it's six hundred million for one Soto.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, and I know I got some baseball
Speaker 2: analysts they pushed back on me. Saying I'd never sign
Speaker 2: him too. I mean, you're banking on somebody staying healthy
Speaker 2: for twelve years. He's twenty six. Okay, if you said
Speaker 2: to the Angels, would you have done it again? If
Speaker 2: you had the opportunity to sign Mike Trout given what happened,
Speaker 2: I could I get three really good players for six
Speaker 2: hundred million dollars That might make my team better. I
Speaker 2: mean that would be my approach. But if you got
Speaker 2: the money, you want to spend the money, and you
Speaker 2: bring in one Soto, then you're the Mets great. You
Speaker 2: keep him from the Yankees and the Dodgers great. I
Speaker 2: just wouldn't go out of my way to watch one Sodo.
Speaker 2: I mean, if he's on TV, I'd go, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: he gets on base He certainly loved right field at
Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium, that that short porch there. But otanis must
Speaker 2: see TV Harper, you turn tune in to see him.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know Paul's schemes. I would tune in.
Speaker 2: Baseball doesn't have enough tune in factor, Guys, I don't
Speaker 2: know what I mean won Soto. It's forty homers, drives
Speaker 2: in one hundred and twenty runs, and what it hits
Speaker 2: two eighty five and not a good fielder, and I
Speaker 2: don't I mean, what else are you getting? I don't know,
Speaker 2: for six undred million, I'd like a little more. Yes,
Speaker 2: Marvin was a Rod. The first contract where everyone thought,
Speaker 2: this is outrageous. Two hundred and fifty million dollars over
Speaker 2: ten years. Was that the first like really ridiculous contract,
Speaker 2: trying to think, I mean, that's up there because he
Speaker 2: went to Texas, And I think that that was the
Speaker 2: surprising part of it is Scott Boris got Texas to
Speaker 2: pony up foolishly and spend that kind of money, and
Speaker 2: then even a Rod going to the Yankees, And then
Speaker 2: I think one of his excuses for using steroids was
Speaker 2: the pressure to live up to his contract when he
Speaker 2: went to the Yankees. Yes, Bowen, do.
Speaker 4: You know what I remember for the most public reaction
Speaker 4: in the time of this show and before from a
Speaker 4: player getting paid, guys like John Contact, this big stiff
Speaker 4: center in the NBA. He got like, I don't know me,
Speaker 4: you may have gotten like four million a year for six.
Speaker 2: Years with the Atlanta Hull.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went berserk. And then there was a guy
Speaker 4: named a Donald Foyle who was a barely passable center.
Speaker 2: Golden State, Golden State, and he.
Speaker 4: Got a nice contract. And that's where he's like, so
Speaker 4: you could be bad at your job and become a multi.
Speaker 2: Nay, well, I remember John Contact, his nickname was John
Speaker 2: Contract because he signed this contract and he wasn't a
Speaker 2: good player. I think he played at SMU and then
Speaker 2: he went to the Hawks. You know, he's serviceable big man.
Speaker 2: But at the time, you're going, he's getting that kind
Speaker 2: of money. He might have been getting paid more money
Speaker 2: than Michael Jordan with his contract.
Speaker 4: You're correct. They were both at two point five million
Speaker 4: at one.
Speaker 2: Time, and then Johnny contract went to four million, I
Speaker 2: think correct, and you know people went apoplectic with that.
Speaker 2: It's the right place, right time, is really what it is.
Speaker 2: Soto is turning twenty six, and this is the sweet
Speaker 2: spot here. He's going to get paid. He's going to
Speaker 2: get paid a lot of money. And you know comes
Speaker 2: down to is he worth it well?
Speaker 3: To me?
Speaker 2: No, But I'm just the I'm just a baseball fan.
Speaker 2: If if that's my team and I get him and
Speaker 2: we can win championships, okay, I don't. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he's the guy that leads you to the Promised Land.
Speaker 2: But he is a great hitter. That's it. Great hitter.
Speaker 2: Otani gives you a global exposure. He's a he did
Speaker 2: something no one's ever done in the history of the game,
Speaker 2: and he's going to be continuing to do those things.
Speaker 2: Now he goes back to pitching and hitting. He showed
Speaker 2: what he could do. Hey, I can't pitch, Well, let
Speaker 2: me show you what I can do. And then you
Speaker 2: have the entire you know, far East Japanese market, like
Speaker 2: you have all of that Dodger games over there. What
Speaker 2: those numbers were during the World Series, the playoffs over there. Okay,
Speaker 2: I can capitalize on. I can monetize that Wan Soto,
Speaker 2: I can't monetize that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Marvin and we talked baseball all season long because
Speaker 5: of one guy show Hal Tani. We're not doing that.
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Speaker 2: Texans are still a little salty with the disease al
Speaker 2: Shire suspension. Now, we talked about it a lot, and
Speaker 2: we talked about it yesterday. Three game suspension. Nick Cassario
Speaker 2: is the Texans GM and he thinks that his player
Speaker 2: has well. The portrait of him is incorrect of who
Speaker 2: this player is. Look, it is what it is.
Speaker 6: I think the big thing from our standpoint and all
Speaker 6: teams want this is just some level of consistency. And
Speaker 6: we've talked to the league quite frankly, but we don't
Speaker 6: have a good explanation. Dimiko talked to him yesterday. So
Speaker 6: I mean, it is what it is. I'm sure Aziz
Speaker 6: will go through whatever process he's going to go through,
Speaker 6: and then we'll deal with it accordingly. But I think
Speaker 6: what we take umbragees is just the picture that's been
Speaker 6: painted about disease, his intentions, who he is as a person.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's quite frankly, it's bold, and it's unfair
Speaker 6: the individual.
Speaker 2: That's unfair of the organization.
Speaker 6: I mean, we love everything about as he's all shay here,
Speaker 6: what he means to this team, what he brings.
Speaker 2: To this to this team. Okay, I'm sure he is
Speaker 2: a good guy. I think he was working something with
Speaker 2: United Way yesterday. He's a team captain, He's got two
Speaker 2: priors to this. He punched somebody he wants grab Brady
Speaker 2: around the neck. He hit Tony Pollard out of bounds
Speaker 2: two yards out of bounds from behind. Can you blame
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence that he slid too late? Okay? Your player
Speaker 2: went up top with a forum right to his head,
Speaker 2: right to his head. So look, you're defending your player. Great,
Speaker 2: Not sure why you are. Feels like you're over defending
Speaker 2: your player. Are you sending a message here? Like, what's
Speaker 2: the message you're sending here? Hey, we support our guys. Okay, great,
Speaker 2: tell me how you support him with the other plays
Speaker 2: that he had. I'd like to hear that. And why
Speaker 2: is it You can complain about the punishment, but you
Speaker 2: can't complain about the officials on a call like he's
Speaker 2: not getting Nick Cassario, The GM doesn't get suspended or punished.
Speaker 2: If he's critical of the punishment, you don't get punished
Speaker 2: by the NFL. But if you criticize, if he said,
Speaker 2: you know, the officials are terrible, well he's going to
Speaker 2: get fined fifty thousand dollars. You could be critical of
Speaker 2: the NFL handing out the punishment to your player and
Speaker 2: the NFL doesn't do anything about it. But I think
Speaker 2: you got to be fair with the totality of this
Speaker 2: player in his career. If he didn't have any priors,
Speaker 2: then maybe we look at this differently, and these are
Speaker 2: recent priors. Is it going to get maybe reduced to
Speaker 2: two games if they appeal? Maybe? Like, okay, so what
Speaker 2: you couldn't get him off the field. He took his
Speaker 2: helmet off, you know. And then you have your head
Speaker 2: coach who's calling out Jacksonville saying they overreacted. Can somebody
Speaker 2: please ask Damiko Ryans coach, if CJ. Stroud got hit
Speaker 2: like that by a Jacksonville player and your players didn't
Speaker 2: defend him, how would you feel that's over That's a
Speaker 2: silly comment by him. They overreacted. Their franchise quarterback is
Speaker 2: knocked out. If your franchise quarterback was knocked out and
Speaker 2: your players didn't go on the field, how would you
Speaker 2: have reacted? That's it, coach, you got an answer? Oh
Speaker 2: you don't. Okay, we move on from that. It's silly
Speaker 2: to say that every coach wants his player to be
Speaker 2: out there to defend his quarterback after a cheap shot
Speaker 2: like that, and I would want the Texans to do
Speaker 2: the same if it happened to CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud.
Speaker 4: All right, yeah, point, Could you make the case though,
Speaker 4: that the defense if this were a star defensive player,
Speaker 4: he would not have been fined the same or suspended
Speaker 4: the same such as same exact hit TJ. Watt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I can't do that. Well. I think that'd
Speaker 2: be like if I said, if Jakobe Brissett got hit,
Speaker 2: is somebody going to be suspended?
Speaker 4: But I think that's kind of what Nick Casaria is saying,
Speaker 4: that my guy, because he's a nobody, is getting lit
Speaker 4: up more than he should for a hit that happens.
Speaker 4: I think that's what he's saying.
Speaker 2: But his player has priors here, and he's known only
Speaker 2: because of the priors. Nobody's saying, boy, that guy is
Speaker 2: an unbelievable player. They're talking about the other hits that
Speaker 2: he had that led to this. I mean, if TJ.
Speaker 2: Watt did the same thing, then I would hope that
Speaker 2: they would suspend him as well. Now, maybe you get
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt there. If that's what Nick
Speaker 2: Cassario is saying, good luck with that. But that that
Speaker 2: we're sorry your player is not known like TJ. Watt is,
Speaker 2: you don't get the benefit of the doubt. He created
Speaker 2: this situation where he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2: If it's a marquee defensive player and he's doing that.
Speaker 2: Are they more lenient? I hope they're not. Maybe they are,
Speaker 2: but still the Texans they can they can blame their
Speaker 2: player for putting their player in that situation.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: Poll question for hour two is gonna be one seed?
Speaker 7: Let me update you from our one since we had
Speaker 7: two of them. Alabama will ultimately get into the twelve
Speaker 7: team playoff because let's see right now, ninety one percent
Speaker 7: of the audience say it's because they're Alabama, not because
Speaker 7: they deserve to be in. Okay, ninety one percent, that's
Speaker 7: a lot.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 7: Miami will ultimately get left out of the twelve team
Speaker 7: playoff because fifty three percent is because they just don't
Speaker 7: be in, not because they just don't have the same
Speaker 7: name value anymore. Okay, they are down a little bit.
Speaker 2: Do we have something for hour two that we're going with.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I did think about, just to see if we
Speaker 7: get a different result. The Miami Hurricanes got hosed or
Speaker 7: hosed themselves just because the wording is so it's so wonderful,
Speaker 7: Yeah who hosed who themselves? Or yeah, you could Todd
Speaker 7: had another one too. It's the two or four falls
Speaker 7: no school has a strong case if they get left
Speaker 7: out of the college football playoffs. I think that's kind
Speaker 7: of fair. Nobody really has a case if they get
Speaker 7: left out.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Did Florida State have a case last year? Right?
Speaker 2: They did? They were undefeated, It's just they didn't have
Speaker 2: their quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yes, And we've been talking a lot.
Speaker 8: Recent weeks on how there's really no great team in
Speaker 8: college football. So because of that, who could really feel
Speaker 8: that snubbed if they're number thirteen or fourteen after we
Speaker 8: hear what happens on Sunday from the selection.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still going to be, you know, teams that complain.
Speaker 2: You know, it's weird. Do we look at Oregon as
Speaker 2: a great team? Probably not undefeated? But I don't know
Speaker 2: if we recognize them even though they're in the Big
Speaker 2: Ten now. But it still feels like it's an sec
Speaker 2: world that we live in. Now. You're talking about Georgia
Speaker 2: and you're talking about Alabama, and then you get around
Speaker 2: to like Notre Dame is really good, Like that's a
Speaker 2: really solid go back to when Alabama and Notre Dame
Speaker 2: played what was that a decade ago? And that was ugly,
Speaker 2: Like that's when you saw Oh my gosh, that's SEC football, Alabama.
Speaker 2: You better, you know, pick up your game. You know,
Speaker 2: the Big Ten had to do that as well. Big
Speaker 2: Ten realized we got to get bigger, We got we
Speaker 2: gotta get speed. We have to recruit different athletes here,
Speaker 2: different parts of the country. And Notre Dame it always
Speaker 2: felt like Notre Dame was his step slower, you know,
Speaker 2: and I don't I didn't know if it was their
Speaker 2: shoes or if it was the turf or my shoes
Speaker 2: or bag. Yeah, that's a great call. Hey, why are
Speaker 2: we slower than everybody else?
Speaker 7: We are?
Speaker 4: Those pleas they look really slow. They ran like they
Speaker 4: were irish. Hey, oh why can they make that shoke?
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, you can. All right. When we come back,
Speaker 2: Pat forty will join us. You'll clear up all of
Speaker 2: this about college football, and we'll talk about what it's
Speaker 2: like to get pepper sprayed in Columbus, Ohio. We're back
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Speaker 2: He might be the first guest we've had on who
Speaker 2: has been pepper sprayed, at least officially pepper sprayed. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure recently pepper sprayed. He's Pat forty from Sports
Speaker 2: Illustrated and he was there in Columbus, Ohio State and Michigan.
Speaker 2: How does it feel to get pepper sprayed? Penn?
Speaker 3: It doesn't taste good, Dan, My food review of pepper
Speaker 3: spray is not overwhelmingly positive. It really didn't get in
Speaker 3: my eyes much. I was wearing glasses and maybe that
Speaker 3: a help. But it got in my mouth and it's unpleasant,
Speaker 3: that's for sure. Mostly I was like, what the hell
Speaker 3: is actually happening here? And then people started reeling out
Speaker 3: of there with you know, their eyes watering and choking
Speaker 3: and everything. I was like, Oh, we've just been pepper sprayed.
Speaker 3: This is a new college football achievement for me.
Speaker 2: I you know, when's college football, so it should be
Speaker 2: doctor pepper spray. You know, with the big sponsor, you
Speaker 2: can use that if you want. How did it get
Speaker 2: to the point where pepper spray was needed after that game.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. It felt to me a little like
Speaker 3: an overreaction. I mean, it was violent in there, for sure.
Speaker 3: I didn't get all the way into the middle of
Speaker 3: the octagon as it were, But I mean there were punches,
Speaker 3: kicks being thrown, people getting bloodied. But I thought that
Speaker 3: this could have been handled without all of a sudden
Speaker 3: guys wearing sheriff jackets just turning around and spraying wide swaths.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I think it was an overreaction
Speaker 3: to a couple of teams overreacting.
Speaker 2: Okay, does college football look at this bigger picture? We've
Speaker 2: seen a recent outbreak in planting the flag here? Does
Speaker 2: college football care about this? The NCAA care to act
Speaker 2: upon this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, college football cares for sure. The NCUBA would probably
Speaker 3: like to care, but it's basically been kicked out of
Speaker 3: college football. The conferences don't like the look. We've heard
Speaker 3: from some commissioners and some other people that think it's
Speaker 3: a bad look. It'll be one of those you know,
Speaker 3: January NCAA Conventions Spring Conference meetings talking points, and they'll
Speaker 3: kick it around. I wouldn't be surprised if they come
Speaker 3: up with some sort of fine structures, or if they
Speaker 3: come up with a and it's gonna be conferenced by conference,
Speaker 3: but a legislation of like you don't bring your flags
Speaker 3: on the road, or you got to put your flags
Speaker 3: in the locker room with five minutes left in the
Speaker 3: game or whatever. You can't have nice things, Dan, if
Speaker 3: you can't play nicely.
Speaker 2: All right, your reaction to the latest rankings.
Speaker 3: I thought Miami got screwed. It's close. It's not like
Speaker 3: this is, you know, the biggest Travis Dew we've ever seen.
Speaker 3: But I would have had Miami ahead of Alabama. But
Speaker 3: we've seen historically Alabama gets in the SEC gets what
Speaker 3: it wants. Greg sank all but planted his flag in
Speaker 3: October saying this has to go incredibly well. And I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people took that as marching orders
Speaker 3: of we better get all of our teams in that
Speaker 3: deserve to get in, maybe even some that don't deserve
Speaker 3: to get in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder, and I said this when it happened.
Speaker 2: The SEC is going to get in at least three schools.
Speaker 2: Like it almost feels like, all right, we're gonna sign
Speaker 2: up for this. We're gonna play along with you, but
Speaker 2: you better be fair to us. At the end of
Speaker 2: the year, Alabama is getting in because of their brand.
Speaker 2: Miami used to have a brand. They don't have a
Speaker 2: brand anymore. How much of a factor do you think
Speaker 2: that that has played in.
Speaker 3: I think it's undeniable. I mean, they can try to
Speaker 3: deny it, but I don't believe it. I think the
Speaker 3: Alabama brand is so strong that losses for them seem
Speaker 3: to matter less. Certain wins even seem to matter more.
Speaker 3: It may just mean more that The point where I thought,
Speaker 3: not necessarily that the fix is in, but that they
Speaker 3: were excessively enamored with the Alabama brand was two weeks
Speaker 3: ago when they beat Mercer, an FCS team had moved
Speaker 3: up three spots. They moved up three spots in the
Speaker 3: rankings by beating Mercer. Then they lose by three touchdowns
Speaker 3: to Oklahoma. But Ward Manuel comes out and says, well,
Speaker 3: Miami wasn't playing well at the end. Was Alabama playing well?
Speaker 2: No? I don't know what goes on in those meetings.
Speaker 2: I don't know if, like, are there directives that go
Speaker 2: on when the committee gets together.
Speaker 3: We all don't know what goes on in the meetings,
Speaker 3: And that's one of the biggest frustrations of this really
Speaker 3: is just a lack of real knowledge. It'd be great
Speaker 3: to have a camera in there, to have a reporter
Speaker 3: in there, to have something in there to tell the
Speaker 3: public what actually does happen, what are the discussion points,
Speaker 3: what you know, where are the tension points? And yes,
Speaker 3: what's the discussion level of how's this going to look
Speaker 3: or how's this going to play? Those things I would
Speaker 3: love to know, but we don't really have an accurate
Speaker 3: summation of that.
Speaker 2: We also have gotten to a point where and these
Speaker 2: commissioners know they don't want to play in a conference
Speaker 2: championship game because of the risk it was a money
Speaker 2: grab for these conferences. Well now the money's available in
Speaker 2: the twelve team playoff. They want to slowly diminish what
Speaker 2: these conference championship games means, certainly for the Big Ten
Speaker 2: and the SEC. So how do you do that where
Speaker 2: you kind of you can't eradicate, but how do you
Speaker 2: diminish them? Therefore, don't you know these games don't really
Speaker 2: mean that much other than you're going to win your
Speaker 2: conference championship?
Speaker 3: Right? I don't know. It's a difficult one. Because they're
Speaker 3: addicted to the money from that. They're adicted to the
Speaker 3: money period from all sources, but they like the money
Speaker 3: that comes with this. They also they like the celebration
Speaker 3: of the league court of sort of stage that it
Speaker 3: gives them. The big ten networks are going to do
Speaker 3: nothing but right talk about and laud the league for
Speaker 3: two days in Indianapolis. The SEC network's going to do
Speaker 3: the same thing in Atlanta. The ACC network will do
Speaker 3: the same thing in Charlotte. The leagues like that, and
Speaker 3: they like the money. So I don't know how you
Speaker 3: separate that and diminish the conference championship more. I've never
Speaker 3: liked the conference championships. I thought they were double jeopardy
Speaker 3: for the best teams, had chance for a fluky outcome,
Speaker 3: hands for injuries. But now you're right with the playoff
Speaker 3: and the way we've got it structured, it's even less
Speaker 3: important and probably more damaging. Although you can at least
Speaker 3: safeguard to a degree, which I think they're trying to
Speaker 3: do here, that both teams in your conference championship are
Speaker 3: probably getting in to the playoff.
Speaker 2: He's pad forty from Sports Illustrated senior writer. The teams
Speaker 2: that are on the bubble. Who could be bounced this
Speaker 2: weekend most likely?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Alabama's rooting hard for SMU because if
Speaker 3: Clemson wins, Alabama theoretically could be out, but the committee
Speaker 3: could also just find another way to keep Alabama in
Speaker 3: and bounce SMU. So the ACC Championship game, I think
Speaker 3: is really where it's at. The Mountain West Championship game
Speaker 3: between Boise and UNLV is interesting, you know. I mean,
Speaker 3: can Boise hold on to a top four seed and
Speaker 3: a first round by and probably kick the Big twelve
Speaker 3: into playing a first round road game with a champion
Speaker 3: of that league. So those are the two spots, The
Speaker 3: ACC and the Mountain West games, I think are the
Speaker 3: two that where there's really some actual tension about what
Speaker 3: might happen.
Speaker 2: What do you think changes about the playoffs next year?
Speaker 3: I would suspect, whether it's next year, whether it's twenty
Speaker 3: twenty seven, more likely that the first round buys do
Speaker 3: not go to four conference champions, that they will go
Speaker 3: to the four highest ranked teams. I think the Big
Speaker 3: ten and SEC will say, okay, enough of that, we
Speaker 3: let you stay in our tournament. Big twelve in ACC,
Speaker 3: but in Mountain West or whoever, but you're not getting
Speaker 3: the buys and they will try to take all of.
Speaker 2: Those any chance. Travis Hunter wins the Heisman unanimously.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. I think there's a decent
Speaker 3: support for Ashton Genty, who's a great player. I think
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter wins, and probably wins by a considerable margin.
Speaker 3: But I think Ashton Genty, and especially if he puts
Speaker 3: up two hundred yards Friday night, you know, that'll probably
Speaker 3: help him some more. Again, I don't think Travis Hunter loses,
Speaker 3: but but I don't think it's an absolute landslide.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I argued that Shador Sanders has kind of quietly,
Speaker 2: which is hard to say about Colorado and being Dion
Speaker 2: Sun quietly had an unbelievable season, and that dude can
Speaker 2: take some punishment he gets hit. Travis Hunter is exciting
Speaker 2: and the potential is wonderful. You know, I was making
Speaker 2: a case Genti and Shaudour, what they've meant to their
Speaker 2: teams probably more valuable than Travis Hunter is to Colorado.
Speaker 2: Is that crazy to say?
Speaker 3: Well? No, I mean you can make that argument. I
Speaker 3: would say Travis Hunter might be more valuable because he
Speaker 3: does indeed play two positions. But Shoudroy Sanders has been unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I mean, if he's in the top three, he deserves it.
Speaker 3: Your point about him getting hit and taking it is
Speaker 3: well made, because that is one tough quarterback. He takes
Speaker 3: a pounding, he gets sacked a lot, he holds the ball,
Speaker 3: he doesn't bail out on play. It's impressive what he's
Speaker 3: done this year. He's a really, really good player.
Speaker 2: Best running back that you ever saw, I mean, Genty
Speaker 2: is getting into that Barry Sanders territory with these numbers.
Speaker 2: Barry did it, of course, you know, against better competition probably,
Speaker 2: but best running back you ever saw.
Speaker 3: In person in college, I would say Adrian Peterson. He
Speaker 3: was just unbelievable at Oklahoma. Now, you know all the time,
Speaker 3: I mean Barry Sanders, you watched him and it was
Speaker 3: like watching a magician or like an adult playing with
Speaker 3: children where nobody could just catch him. He just made
Speaker 3: you look silly. So those two come to mind. Walter Payton,
Speaker 3: of course, but I didn't see him in college. You know,
Speaker 3: I love the way Walter Payton just defeated tacklers. But Genty.
Speaker 3: Genty's legit, man, He's got size and he's just got
Speaker 3: great feet. I mean his feet. He reminds me of
Speaker 3: Ladanian Tomlinson that that comparisons made can catch the ball
Speaker 3: as well. And he's just he's a heck of a player.
Speaker 2: Great to talk to you. And are you going to
Speaker 2: the ACC title game?
Speaker 3: I am, yes, gonna go see if Clemson can drop
Speaker 3: something in the punch bowl.
Speaker 2: What do you think the chances are you get pepper
Speaker 2: sprayed again?
Speaker 3: I think much lower. Okay, a horseshoe, much lower. But
Speaker 3: I might be back in the horse shoe if I
Speaker 3: have a first round game and I'll be bringing protecting here.
Speaker 2: How safe is Ryan Day in your opinion?
Speaker 3: I think he's relatively safe if he wants to be safe.
Speaker 3: If he doesn't want to go, I think he might
Speaker 3: be willing to reconsider how much he wants to be there.
Speaker 3: But I don't see.
Speaker 2: Oh hold on that. Ryan Day may say, you know what,
Speaker 2: I don't want to be under this microscope anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't think that's out of the question.
Speaker 3: That this has become almost an untenable situation. If he
Speaker 3: can get another job that wants to pay him ten
Speaker 3: million dollars.
Speaker 2: A year, what about Urban Meyer coming back to Ohio State.
Speaker 3: Let's not. I don't think so. I don't think that
Speaker 3: would happen. Ross Biorke. I think the new ad there,
Speaker 3: if he were to get the chance to make a hire,
Speaker 3: I think he would want to establish his own sort
Speaker 3: of signature on the program.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I think the people who got rid of
Speaker 2: urban Meyer aren't there at Ohio State anymore.
Speaker 3: They're not. No, that's true. I mean it would be
Speaker 3: a fresh slate, but I still am not sure. I
Speaker 3: think ross Byork has enough ambition that he was like,
Speaker 3: I'm not bringing back a guy that's going to be
Speaker 3: you know, just immediately dwarf me.
Speaker 2: He's patent forty. He's not afraid of your pepper spray,
Speaker 2: and he could be coming to a stadium near you.
Speaker 2: Thank you, pat thank you. That's bad forty going to
Speaker 2: the ACC title gay probably won't get pepper sprayed. You know,
Speaker 2: in college football fans are so passionate. I saw where
Speaker 2: Pad forty put out, hey, I just got pepper sprayed,
Speaker 2: and then I saw a comment from a college football
Speaker 2: fan who said, good spray him again. I think that
Speaker 2: must have said something about somebody's fan base, you know,
Speaker 2: and they hold those things for dear life. I think
Speaker 2: there are people still upset at Chris Fowler back to
Speaker 2: the Peyton Manning Wow for the Heisman with Charles Woodson.
Speaker 4: It was a big deal for decades.
Speaker 2: The Michigan fans still frosty at him, or is at
Speaker 2: Tennessee fans who are frosty.
Speaker 4: At Tennessee fans and back in the day Tennessee from
Speaker 4: what I was told, said no a couple of times
Speaker 4: to game day coming back, they were salty.
Speaker 2: Yes, Marmon.
Speaker 5: Is there a difference between passionate and absolutely insane?
Speaker 2: Wow, it's close. I think they're They're in the same
Speaker 2: zip code, neighborhood, on the same block. Probably it doesn't
Speaker 2: take much effort to get from one to the other.
Speaker 5: Yes, Mart, It's like Harvey Updyke. He was passionate and
Speaker 5: then he was the guy that Jos Corners. Yeah he
Speaker 5: poisoned the trees.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, the Alabama fan Yeah, okay, yes, Tom, that
Speaker 2: was a pretty big thing that Pat just dropped that.
Speaker 5: Ryan Day would say, I've had enough year.
Speaker 8: I just don't need this aggravation and stress.
Speaker 2: I'm done. Yeah, yeah, I hadn't heard that. Now is
Speaker 2: he reporting that?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 7: Thinking now they're getting into those waters that we love to.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know him around and you're right, well, no,
Speaker 2: Pat's not an insider. Adam Schefter is an insider. And
Speaker 2: Schefty said I could see Ben ben Johnson at Detroit
Speaker 2: being interested in the Bear's job. Now that's not a report.
Speaker 2: But when the insider says I could see where Ben
Speaker 2: Johnson would be interested in the Bears, that makes me
Speaker 2: a little nervous. Yeah. Seeon.
Speaker 7: But what's what really is the difference between what Pat
Speaker 7: Forty does and what Adam Schefter does.
Speaker 2: Well, Schefty is when he says it, it's that's the
Speaker 2: inside part of this. Pat reports on. I don't think
Speaker 2: his job is an insider, He's a writer. Schefty's an
Speaker 2: information guy. Chefty doesn't write. Pat Forty wrote about the
Speaker 2: Ohio State Michigan game. Schefty could have a report on
Speaker 2: Ryan Day leaving to go to the NFL. I mean
Speaker 2: the lines are blurred because Schefty wants to be a personality,
Speaker 2: so he might say things where hey, I could see that,
Speaker 2: or I'm hearing you know. The people in Chicago ran
Speaker 2: with this yesterday that Adam was saying, Hey, I could
Speaker 2: see where Ben Johnson would be interested in the bears
Speaker 2: well because he's saying it like Schefty can't have an
Speaker 2: opinion with his job.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, when you're an insider, when you have an opinion,
Speaker 2: then it feels like that's a report. Not Hey, I
Speaker 2: could see that, But you can't do that because people
Speaker 2: run with that like they did in Chicago. Yes, pun quickly.
Speaker 4: I want to go back to what Pat Forty said
Speaker 4: about Ryan Data. It is pretty surprising he could see
Speaker 4: them just leaving Ohio State. Seaton said something earlier in
Speaker 4: the week about Ohio State and how it's messed up
Speaker 4: that a team a fan base bases so much of
Speaker 4: their worth or whatever you want to call it off
Speaker 4: one game a year and that doesn't help the franchise overall.
Speaker 4: And maybe that's what Ryan Day's thinking, but.
Speaker 2: That's I mean, coaches have been fired because they didn't
Speaker 2: do well against Michigan or against Ohio State. It's happened before.
Speaker 2: It's the importance of that Now. I think with the
Speaker 2: twelve team playoff, that might relax that a little bit
Speaker 2: because if you lost that game, you had no chance
Speaker 2: playing for a national championship. Now you can. Ohio State
Speaker 2: is still in the mix here. But before it was
Speaker 2: like you lost that game, you lost the integrity of
Speaker 2: an entire state. And Ryan Day may just say, look,
Speaker 2: I don't want any more of this now. I hadn't
Speaker 2: heard that before.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: I have friends in Columbus and they were like, you know,
Speaker 2: there's a little chatter here. I go, what does that mean? Ah?
Speaker 2: You know some people talk about what if urban Meyer?
Speaker 2: I said, I can't deal in what if urban Meyer
Speaker 2: comes back? Is there a report? Then we have something here?
Speaker 2: Not I could see that. I don't see it, but
Speaker 2: you know, crazier things have happened. Take a break. More
Speaker 2: phone calls coming up. Jason Garrett, former Cowboys coach, coming
Speaker 2: up next hour.
Speaker 1: Back after this, be sure to catch the live edition
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Speaker 2: Wapp Coming up, we will give you our NOVEMBP novem VP,
Speaker 2: the MVP of November. Nah, yeah, I know, I know.
Speaker 2: It's just I'm having a hard time with novem VP.
Speaker 4: I think you're nailing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, NOVEMVP. That'll be coming up. Dan Levotard is going
Speaker 2: to join us the voice of Miami Football we'll see
Speaker 2: if he's upset with the U not in the playoffs
Speaker 2: on the outside looking in and Jason Garrett, uh, he
Speaker 2: will join us on loan from Football Night in America.
Speaker 2: Time to play in or out. You're either in or
Speaker 2: you're out, Pauly some topics please.
Speaker 4: So I present the topic. You say in, if you're in, out,
Speaker 4: if you're out. Just do it that way. We'll be fine,
Speaker 4: not out out unless you really really mean it. So
Speaker 4: I guess you can say.
Speaker 2: Out out, but you can be in in.
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, like, I'm in in in, You're really in?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: Jameis Winston's future as NFL future. Oh, okay, Jameis Winston's
Speaker 4: NFL future.
Speaker 2: I'm in.
Speaker 4: Oh that's a tensted No, I'm in, like where he
Speaker 4: gets the keys to his own franchise again.
Speaker 2: In, Well, you didn't say that. Now you're changing the
Speaker 2: question again.
Speaker 4: It works.
Speaker 2: I'm in.
Speaker 4: It means he gets to start even when Deshaun Watson's back.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if Deshaun Watson's back. So you're
Speaker 2: I'm in, all right? Extremely out out?
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm out.
Speaker 8: I am in. The Lord will deliver more starts.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, okay, Corinthians.
Speaker 4: Justin Tucker's future in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Come in, I'm still in, still in out out and
Speaker 2: I'm in.
Speaker 4: I should have said split the uprights are wide right?
Speaker 4: No offense? All right? Soon, here's the one. Here's one
Speaker 4: they just thought of. Russell Wilson went in the Comeback
Speaker 4: Player of the Year award in in or out out?
Speaker 2: Did anybody almost die?
Speaker 4: Russell died a perception death as an NFL starting quarterback?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But did he die and come back to life
Speaker 2: a couple of times like tomorrow Hamlin who didn't even
Speaker 2: win and win. So you know, is Joe Flaccos so eligible?
Speaker 2: You know, I would say Russell Wilson should be eligible
Speaker 2: for that? Yeah, this is it. This is a massive
Speaker 2: comeback year for him. Is he not?
Speaker 4: He's not eligible?
Speaker 2: Is he? I don't know if he is or not?
Speaker 4: Hold on, well, he may have a good point here.
Speaker 7: What if we did a player who might not be
Speaker 7: eligible for Comeback Player of the Year, but it should
Speaker 7: be you start Russell Wilson Junior the third I'll throw
Speaker 7: Sam Donald on there. Okay, that dude, he is having
Speaker 7: a comeback year. If ever there was one, Okay, I
Speaker 7: don't know who else could be on that poll question, But.
Speaker 2: Can Bryce Young win comeback Player of the Year.
Speaker 7: Maybe it feels a little early, Okay, feels a little early, yes.
Speaker 2: Barkley, heck yeah, yeah, I'd roll with that. Heck yeah.
Speaker 4: So this is you didn't lose a limb or a relative,
Speaker 4: but you just weren't that great.
Speaker 2: Okay, more of a comeback Saquon Barkley or Russell Wilson
Speaker 2: Junior the third? Like Russ was dead, Russ Russ.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's really it's really to me, it's a question
Speaker 7: between Russell Wilson and Sam Donald because he was dead
Speaker 7: in the water and now was a guy.
Speaker 4: I think both I could be free. Ah Darnald and
Speaker 4: Russ Walls.
Speaker 2: Okay, would you sign up Russell Wilson right now? Three years,
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars if you're Pittsburgh, go around the room,
Speaker 2: Todd in or out out? Seaton three years one hundred million,
Speaker 2: three years, one hundred million dollars for Russell Wilson Junior.
Speaker 2: The third? Uh in or out? What's the other option?
Speaker 2: Keeping just a fields? Whatever they decide they go elsewhere. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll throw them a hunter mill. Why not? Good for you, buddy, Yeah, yeah, Marvin,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: Paulie, I'm in. That's thirty three million a year. That's respectable.
Speaker 2: I'm in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 2: I'm in for Russell Wilson, not inter out. Yes, Ton,
Speaker 2: would Russe.
Speaker 8: Wilson embrace or be offended by a Comeback Player of
Speaker 8: the Year award if he was to receive something like that.
Speaker 2: I think he'd be fine with them. I think he'd be. Okay, Yes, Pauli,
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 4: Interer out. Dan Lanning of Oregon is going to be
Speaker 4: a scorching hot NFL head coaching candidate in a few weeks.
Speaker 2: If you keep mentioning it, then I think it might happen.
Speaker 2: I'm making it. You are making it happen.
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna be wildly hot as an NFL candidate,
Speaker 4: and actually right now, but in a month from.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm going to be out on that. I think
Speaker 2: he needs another year. Yeah, well, you might be right.
Speaker 2: He still could be scorching hot. Marvin, I'm out, Seaton,
Speaker 2: I'm out, Tod I'm out too, Okay, in, Okay.
Speaker 4: Here's one I'd rather watch the first round of the
Speaker 4: college football playoffs over the first round of the NFL playoffs.
Speaker 2: M Todd in a round.
Speaker 5: I am out. I gotta go NFL playoffs.
Speaker 2: All right, see no counter.
Speaker 7: If I'm in, I'm watching college football. If I'm out,
Speaker 7: I'm watching the NFL. I'm in on watching college football. Marvin,
Speaker 7: I'm out watching the NFL.
Speaker 2: I'm watching the college football. I'm in there.
Speaker 4: You go interesting. This is the last one. And this
Speaker 4: was I put this one on in or out five
Speaker 4: weeks ago and everybody was out except for me. I
Speaker 4: was in. This will be Lebron James final season.
Speaker 2: Todd out seatan. I think I'm out, Marvin out.
Speaker 5: He definitely announces it so he can get the tour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm out on this.
Speaker 4: I mean I think he announces that the All Star
Speaker 4: break that.
Speaker 2: He's done this year. Yep, it looks like he's done,
Speaker 2: gotta admit. Yeah, but take away the last two weeks.
Speaker 2: Prior to that, he was one of the ten best
Speaker 2: players in the game. Yeah, but now he stopped playing.
Speaker 2: I just think he can't play. He wants to do
Speaker 2: what Michael Jordan did and play eighty two games, and
Speaker 2: he shouldn't be playing eighty two games, or he shouldn't
Speaker 2: be averaging thirty five minutes a game.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think the eighty two goal is all part
Speaker 4: of this being the last season they're not. The Lakers
Speaker 4: are a mile least.
Speaker 2: Threatening seventh or eight seeded two right.
Speaker 4: I think he's aware, he's a smart guy, that he's
Speaker 4: not winning a title.
Speaker 6: List.
Speaker 2: I think he would.
Speaker 4: He got a son in the league. He's gonna play
Speaker 4: eighty two and out and go on to many many
Speaker 4: other things.
Speaker 5: Yes, I might be with Paulie if they didn't play
Speaker 5: in Cleveland, Like, had they had not played in Cleveland already,
Speaker 5: then I would have been with him. So I'm still out.
Speaker 2: I'm still so Paulie thinks that this is Lebron's last year.
Speaker 2: He announces it at the All Star Game. Okay, that'd
Speaker 2: be a nice pea bomb. Yeah, be nice people.
Speaker 4: He signed a three year contract tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I feel like he's playing one more year. I agree
Speaker 2: with Marvin. It feels like it would be. Hey, next
Speaker 2: year is my last year? Yeah, yes, right, Marvin, you
Speaker 2: see that.
Speaker 5: Yes, I definitely see him doing the Kobe Tour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be one year too long. Could be
Speaker 2: this year might be one year too long. Well, no question,
Speaker 2: Martin like getting clicks. Dan Levittard he'll defend the you
Speaker 2: should the U be in the College football playoffs ands
Speaker 2: and Garrett he'll join us as well. Final Hour in
Speaker 2: this Wednesday, right after this