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Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in

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Speaker 2: This is big time between these two.

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Speaker 3: We always love this matchup, but the rivalry hits different

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Speaker 3: in Week eighteen. It's Raven Steelers, it's for the AFC North,

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Speaker 3: and it's for a shot in the playoffs. Fake Tomlin

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Speaker 3: spoke yesterday about the team strategy heading into this massive showdown.

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Speaker 4: It is an honor man to be in these games,

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Speaker 4: to be in these hotly contested matchups. It seems like

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Speaker 4: Baltimore is always a dance partner. I certainly am respectful

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Speaker 4: and appreciative of that relationship, and there's just real intimacy

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Speaker 4: in these divisional matchups. And so man, we're working with

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Speaker 4: an edge. This is chestnut checkers as you as you strategize,

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Speaker 4: as in at the early portions of the week, not

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Speaker 4: only forecast and who's available to us potentially, but also

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Speaker 4: who's available unavailable for them, and and what that might

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Speaker 4: do to strategy. You know, is a big part of

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Speaker 4: the week for us.

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Speaker 3: We've been saying the word steaks on GMFB since week one.

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Speaker 2: We love them here on this show.

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Speaker 3: We always like when things matter, and I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: there are greater stakes this entire season than this game.

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Speaker 3: For the first time ever, actually in this rivalry in particular,

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Speaker 2: True winning in game winner? Is in the playoffs? Loser

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Speaker 3: Kyle, It's not just that, it's we're looking at Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: If he loses, Is this the final time we see

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Speaker 2: There's so much meat on this bone, Kyle. Where do

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Speaker 5: Yeah, meat and bone and steaks. That's exactly where we're at.

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Speaker 6: The December steaks hit differently, Jamie, even than the January stakes.

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Speaker 6: He lives in January. Of course, it's huge. But you

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Speaker 6: made the playoffs, you had a great season. Can you

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Speaker 6: say that about the Steelers or Ravens if they lose

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Speaker 6: this game or when one of them loses this game? Now,

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Speaker 6: let's talk about what's at hand. Here could be his

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Speaker 6: last game. If Mike Tomlin loses this game, do they

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Speaker 6: have that conversation? If John Harbaugh loses this game, is

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Speaker 6: the time to have that conversation? Also a big time,

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Speaker 6: bizarre legacy game for Lamar. But let's focus on Rogers

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Speaker 6: because we once upon a time saw him walk off

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Speaker 5: For the last time.

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Speaker 6: And it was so poetic and it was like a

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Speaker 6: all knew it was over and he was never going

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Speaker 5: It's the best packer ever, this and.

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Speaker 6: That, and he knew it and he soaked it in

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Speaker 6: and he's doing the wave to the crowd and he's

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Speaker 6: feels a little differently. This a week ago, just beat

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Speaker 6: and season forty or whatever it is. If he walks

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Speaker 6: be poetic, it's not going to be beautiful. It's going

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Speaker 6: to be oh my god, what happened? How many times

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Speaker 5: I don't think Rogers wants to retire after this year.

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Speaker 6: I think he'll want to come back to Pittsburgh even

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Speaker 6: in that. What retirement doesn't that play a factor in two?

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Speaker 6: So a lot as at stake with Rogers. You don't

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Speaker 6: believe there's fifty different questions I just posed here. I

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Speaker 7: Well, KB, you said that you hope that he does

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Speaker 7: The whole theme to Derek Jeters thing was the theme

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Speaker 5: I hope when, however, this.

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Speaker 7: Thing goes at Aaron Rodgers is the old Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 7: like flashes from twenty nineteen October twenty twenty nineteen against

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Speaker 5: Rare he throws are five tds.

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Speaker 7: November twenty fourth versus the Bears, we have six first

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Speaker 5: And even if he loses.

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Speaker 7: The two thousand and nine wild card against the Cardinals,

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Speaker 5: For four tds. And I know this thing in two

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Speaker 7: This is in twenty fourteen and he's forty two years

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Speaker 5: Year against the Jets, the guy threw for four touchdowns.

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Speaker 7: So regardless of how he goes out, I want him

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Speaker 7: to go out to your point KB on his dime,

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Speaker 7: and that sling the ball I know DK not going

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Speaker 7: even if it's seventy five times, do it the way

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Speaker 7: that we've seen you do it, And I think everybody

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Speaker 8: When you talk about him potentially going out here and

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Speaker 9: This doesn't feel.

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Speaker 8: Like like it feels like if they let's say they

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Speaker 8: like it just feels like for Aaron Rodgers running it

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Speaker 8: what he had said coming in that this might be

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Speaker 8: talked about twenty nineteen. How about twenty twenty one January

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Speaker 8: of twenty twenty one January sixteenth, to be exact, that's

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Speaker 8: the last time we saw on Aaron Rodgers led team

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Speaker 9: And I understand that.

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Speaker 8: Quarterback wins is not necessarily a stat and it's not.

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Speaker 10: All on the quarterback, but.

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Speaker 8: Don't you want another playoff highlight, another playoff moment for

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Speaker 5: I kind of want that, so, you know, for.

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Speaker 8: Him, I think it's an important game this weekend to

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Speaker 8: the postseason and have another moment, have another moment where

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Speaker 8: we go, Okay, there's a Hall of Fame career if

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Speaker 8: then't even have to be a super Bowl, but just

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Speaker 5: In the postmas.

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Speaker 3: This is the fortieth time you're going to see this

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Speaker 3: matchup between these two head coaches, which is another part

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Speaker 3: twelve games, the Steelers have the edge nine to three.

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Speaker 2: Those matchups include the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: But I have to imagine, Kyle, this is the first

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Speaker 3: what is going on with lamar In the spirit of

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Speaker 3: put a question mark behind it. Can I ask you

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Speaker 3: what Lamar Jackson means and the question marsa you have

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Speaker 5: Lamar's not Lamar right now. Now. It's certainly there's a

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Speaker 5: physical factor.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if there's a psychological factor, but I

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Speaker 5: That's not Lamar does not have a run of twenty

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Speaker 6: Guys Snoop Huntley in five games has two of them.

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Speaker 5: He also has a nineteen yard run.

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Speaker 6: So that's not that we are way down the street

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Speaker 5: We know him, we know what these guys know what

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Speaker 6: As long as passing play this year is forty five yards,

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Speaker 6: He's not working up into and including the point where

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Speaker 6: there's actual conversations being had by people that we respect

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Speaker 6: about Even if Lamar gets cleared by the doctors. You

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Speaker 6: win this game. That's a reality where the doctors say, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Lamar's fine, he can go, and you say, nah, well

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Speaker 6: I can't get there.

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Speaker 5: I can't. I won't.

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Speaker 6: It's in the history of sports, in the history of humanity.

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Speaker 5: You don't do that.

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Speaker 6: You don't say, our guy, who have been there for years,

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Speaker 6: I just don't think he has it right now.

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Speaker 5: I think we're gonna go with the hot hand. This

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Speaker 6: Puntley is not a hot hand. He is a capable

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Speaker 6: It's not like, well, we will go with our second

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Speaker 6: this is not that you start Lamar Jackson and I listen.

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Speaker 5: I've heard people, I'm not even gonna name it, but I've.

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Speaker 6: Seen people and doing what we do, who are saying

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Speaker 6: Lamar's is not right right now between the ears or

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Speaker 6: in his legs puts Snowpuntley in. I don't think that

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Speaker 6: they're without a point. I'm just not joining that. I

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Speaker 6: will go down with Lamar Jackson rather the imagine you

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Speaker 6: put Stuputley out there. He doesn't play well. I just

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Speaker 6: can't get there, guys. But I'm not saying someone who's

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Speaker 6: saying that is crazy. Tell me, Mantai, if you've been

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Speaker 6: watching the Ravens, you heard the numbers. I just said,

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Speaker 6: Sue Pertley is running the ball better than Lamar even what.

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Speaker 7: Do you think, Well, no, he's He's definitely running the

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Speaker 5: He's looking way more poised.

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Speaker 7: I mean last week you could see when he would

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Speaker 5: And I just like the way that Snoop kind of

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Speaker 7: It's also the most that Derek Henry has is the

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Speaker 8: Sixteen for twenty for one hundred and seven yards and

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Speaker 7: And we just had the ball off to twenty two. Well,

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Speaker 6: But the game is probably going to be close, and

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Speaker 5: Either Snoop or Lamar's gonna have to throw.

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Speaker 6: Listen, this is so fun because we're all on the

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Speaker 5: How about this, man time, let me give you a hypothetical.

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Speaker 6: you gotta win this game, Like, listen, you lose this game,

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Speaker 10: You gotta win.

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Speaker 5: It's a playoff game.

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Speaker 7: But I think in the words of that one Snoop

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Speaker 7: Okay, they're gonna call Snoop up at halftime in that situation, KP.

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Speaker 5: Like five suit up, get in the game. When is

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Speaker 5: So I think you put that. I think you put

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Speaker 2: Not to let those thoughts creep in.

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Speaker 3: And that back injury certainly warrants some of those thoughts.

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Speaker 3: Even if it does come to halftime, we'll be watching

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Speaker 2: In the AFC.

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Speaker 6: Good mom.

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Speaker 9: In the middle of that Panthers game.

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Speaker 6: Over the past weekend, JJ Watt and I and Eagle

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Speaker 9: This was yes and the Show yesterday.

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Speaker 6: This strikes me as some long running, weird superstition where

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Speaker 9: There's at least one hoodie under the.

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Speaker 6: Second jersey, so there may be multiple jerseys we haven't

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Speaker 6: Man i's got to be at the game this weekend.

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Speaker 6: He's got to be at the playoff games, and he's

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Speaker 9: We got jersey man and we haven't.

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Speaker 11: It's how you doing.

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Speaker 9: Let's go that's crazy?

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Speaker 6: Look at him all right, Joe van Hoven, Joe van Hoven,

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Speaker 6: the jersey man. Joe, thank you so much for being here.

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Speaker 12: I'll be honest, it was kind of wild. That was

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Speaker 12: You guys caught me this week though, and I love

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Speaker 10: So I'm very happy to be here.

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Speaker 9: Joe.

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Speaker 2: We can tell you've been a fan your woe.

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Speaker 3: We love the Keigley Boston College jersey that's.

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Speaker 2: Happening behind you. That is impeccable taste. We love the decor, Joe.

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Speaker 3: I was calling you Spencer from Durham or something yesterday. Joe,

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Speaker 10: I love that I.

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Speaker 12: Moved here to Indian Trail, North Carolina from Syracuse six

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Speaker 12: I was a kid. I've been going to games every

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Speaker 12: I'm being noticed as a Panther fan. I'll probably be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Joe, we learned, Joe.

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Speaker 3: So you told us already that you do the offensive

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Speaker 3: as a gift like a holiday gift from JMFP.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, I love this. I love this now that

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Speaker 10: I would love a Fitzgerald jersey too.

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Speaker 7: And j Jen's well, Joe, I got to ask you

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Speaker 5: About that jersey.

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Speaker 10: We gotta do something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Now, now I don't know if you have I don't

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Speaker 7: that guy behind you with the Luke Kickley. Obviously you

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Speaker 5: We just did a Hall of Fame take.

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Speaker 7: I went over my memories of playing him in college

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Speaker 7: and NFL. What are your best memories about that guy

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Speaker 12: He was my favorite player of all time. I actually

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Speaker 9: Yep, yeah, yep.

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Speaker 10: He's just different.

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Speaker 12: He made so many players I can't name them all,

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Speaker 12: but watching him growing up, I didn't get to play

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Speaker 7: Wow, John, I gotta tell you a quick story about that.

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Speaker 5: That pick six that he had.

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Speaker 9: I believe it was.

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Speaker 5: They were in the color Rush uniforms.

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Speaker 7: Correct, Yeah, right, and he picked off that like fifteen

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Speaker 7: I don't want you running with this vertical rod anymore.

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Speaker 7: Do what Luke Keickley did and pick off this route.

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Speaker 7: So you thank you for taking me down, member Lane Isaac.

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Speaker 5: That's incredible as a robot, he's not even human. He's

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Speaker 9: Joe. I kind of want to get deep for a second.

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Speaker 13: are the reason that NFL players, you guys need to

439
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Speaker 13: take time for fans. You know, like a lot of

440
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Speaker 13: players will try to brush off fans and act like

441
00:19:11,148 --> 00:19:14,028
Speaker 13: it doesn't matter. Joe, you embody everything that it means

442
00:19:14,788 --> 00:19:17,228
Speaker 13: to be an NFL fan and you are football. Like,

443
00:19:17,308 --> 00:19:21,028
Speaker 13: forget the players who cares? It's about Joe seriously. Yeah,

444
00:19:21,388 --> 00:19:24,268
Speaker 13: the Jersey man. Now we'll call you Joe though, Joe,

445
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Speaker 13: I want you to just talk about the moment that

446
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Speaker 13: Luke kei Cley he retired.

447
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Speaker 9: You're crying, like how do you even.

448
00:19:30,908 --> 00:19:32,428
Speaker 13: Get to that point because a lot of people who

449
00:19:32,468 --> 00:19:34,588
Speaker 13: don't know football are like, why is his grown man crying?

450
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Speaker 13: Can you just talk about how heavy that moment was

451
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Speaker 13: for you?

452
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I've actually met Luke I've I've I've met a

453
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Speaker 12: lot of players, but he's meant the most of me.

454
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Speaker 12: And obviously we know he was on a storm. He

455
00:19:48,988 --> 00:19:51,428
Speaker 12: was going to make a big impact, but it got

456
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Speaker 12: cut short. So that was a big moment for me

457
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Speaker 12: as a fan to realize that not only you know,

458
00:19:56,188 --> 00:19:58,988
Speaker 12: these players are human and we you know, I watch

459
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Speaker 12: them every single week, So it allows me to watch

460
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Speaker 12: these guys now.

461
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Speaker 10: J C.

462
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Speaker 12: Horn, Bryce young them and really have you know, the

463
00:20:07,828 --> 00:20:10,628
Speaker 12: love for them and realize that they're on the field

464
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Speaker 12: every single time working for us as fans, just like

465
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Speaker 12: we are in the stands.

466
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Speaker 5: So I love you.

467
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Speaker 6: I yeah, you're doing great on TV too, and you

468
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Speaker 6: are all of it.

469
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Speaker 9: Your answers are excellent. Can we can we just get

470
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Speaker 9: back to the mechanics.

471
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Speaker 6: Of your superstition. So you're telling me that every game

472
00:20:29,508 --> 00:20:32,228
Speaker 6: you go to, you you double bag it, so to speak,

473
00:20:32,308 --> 00:20:34,468
Speaker 6: and the second the offense comes on, you take it

474
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Speaker 6: off and you put and you're doing this for the

475
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Speaker 6: whole game.

476
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Speaker 12: Tell us why I don't do it alone. My wife

477
00:20:40,348 --> 00:20:43,588
Speaker 12: does help me. She holds the jerseys, gives them back

478
00:20:43,588 --> 00:20:47,508
Speaker 12: to me. Times guys where I've had a little bit

479
00:20:47,748 --> 00:20:49,628
Speaker 12: too much to drink and I forget that they're on

480
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Speaker 12: the field, She's like, hey, hey, but she's actually right there.

481
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Speaker 10: You can see her.

482
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Speaker 12: Little blood hair with a high note. And we have

483
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Speaker 12: a lot of fun at these games. My whole section

484
00:20:57,908 --> 00:20:59,668
Speaker 12: knows who I am. They've been watching me do it

485
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Speaker 12: every single week. Wow, big shout out to them to

486
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Speaker 12: twenty six you and we'll continue this in the playoffs.

487
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Speaker 10: We are going to do.

488
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Speaker 6: That all right, shout to the two twenty six and

489
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Speaker 6: I love that you believe that you're going to the playoffs.

490
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Speaker 6: You got a couple chances to do it, but I

491
00:21:14,388 --> 00:21:16,828
Speaker 6: know you won't be going alone. You mentioned your wife,

492
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Speaker 6: Morgan goes to the games with you back in twenty nineteen. Dude,

493
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Speaker 6: you actually pop the question during the season opener against

494
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Speaker 6: the Rams.

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Speaker 9: We have a clip.

496
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Speaker 6: It's a very short clip and we'll get into the story,

497
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Speaker 6: but here is my guy, Joe van Hoven, proposing marriage

498
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Speaker 6: to his wife.

499
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Speaker 9: Now, go ahead, roll it.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one of the biggest moments of my life.

501
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Speaker 12: I had my grandfather with me, my uncle, my mom,

502
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Speaker 12: her mom, and the one film was my wife's best friend.

503
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Speaker 12: Ye once again, a little bit too much of drink,

504
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Speaker 12: but a lot of fun and what a day.

505
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Speaker 10: What a day.

506
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Speaker 12: Ever since that day, you know, they've I've been making

507
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Speaker 12: sure that I get here for a home game.

508
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Speaker 10: Coming from Syracuse can be tough.

509
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Speaker 12: But now that we're here, I will be at every

510
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Speaker 12: home game for the rest of the life.

511
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Speaker 2: Joe, I love this for you and for Morgan. Joe,

512
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Speaker 2: A couple couple questions.

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Speaker 3: First of all, you know that that was a dear

514
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Speaker 3: friend of your wife's because there is no more panic

515
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Speaker 3: than one of a best friend gets proposed to. And

516
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Speaker 3: she obviously just moved the camera because she's like, Morgan.

517
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Speaker 2: It's really happening for you.

518
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Speaker 3: Joe, was Morgan an og Panthers fan or did you

519
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Speaker 3: bring her on to this, to this life commitment?

520
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Speaker 10: Morgan is a original Steelers fan.

521
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Speaker 9: Oh wow, yeah, yeah.

522
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Speaker 12: He is still still a Steelers fan. I don't want

523
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Speaker 12: to take that away from her. She watches them every Sunday.

524
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Speaker 12: She still supports them. But obviously, with May being a

525
00:23:02,068 --> 00:23:04,788
Speaker 12: crazy Carolina Panther fans, she's kind of took it into

526
00:23:05,068 --> 00:23:07,188
Speaker 12: so it's incredible.

527
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Speaker 9: Listens.

528
00:23:08,708 --> 00:23:11,068
Speaker 6: Converting a fan is hard enough, Converting a Steelers fan

529
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Speaker 6: is almost impossible. So she is in it for the

530
00:23:13,588 --> 00:23:16,788
Speaker 6: right reasons that she seems like an amazing woman. But Joe,

531
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Speaker 6: let's end with this. Let's get the brass tax here.

532
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Speaker 6: There is a massive Carolina Panthers football game this weekend Saturday,

533
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Speaker 6: Buccaneers at Tampa.

534
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Speaker 9: How you feeling. Give us a little preview on what

535
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Speaker 9: are your plans.

536
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Speaker 12: I'm ready They're going to go out and win this.

537
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Speaker 12: We don't need the Falcons to beat the Saints. We're

538
00:23:35,628 --> 00:23:37,228
Speaker 12: gonna get it done.

539
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Speaker 10: What we need.

540
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Speaker 12: We need aggressive play calling on the offense. Defense is

541
00:23:41,828 --> 00:23:45,628
Speaker 12: doing their job. We we gotta have Bruce throwing out

542
00:23:45,668 --> 00:23:48,068
Speaker 12: first and second down. Ricos had a great year, but

543
00:23:48,108 --> 00:23:49,868
Speaker 12: we got to work into the run and that's what

544
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Speaker 12: I see from the stands. But uh, I'm ready for

545
00:23:53,428 --> 00:23:56,548
Speaker 12: the game. It got flexed to Saturday, and I sell cars,

546
00:23:56,588 --> 00:23:59,708
Speaker 12: so I probably won't be there, but I would love

547
00:23:59,748 --> 00:24:02,308
Speaker 12: to go if the opportunity presented itself.

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Speaker 9: Joe Cars yourself, drop it. I want to hear it.

549
00:24:05,668 --> 00:24:06,188
Speaker 5: What do you sell?

550
00:24:06,988 --> 00:24:09,708
Speaker 12: I worked at Hendricra in Charlotte on independence.

551
00:24:09,748 --> 00:24:10,628
Speaker 5: All right, I love it.

552
00:24:10,708 --> 00:24:16,548
Speaker 9: Accurate. Here we go for Joe.

553
00:24:16,948 --> 00:24:20,988
Speaker 6: He'll get you the best possible deal on an accurate. Always, Joe,

554
00:24:21,428 --> 00:24:27,028
Speaker 6: you are the real deal. Shout out is it six?

555
00:24:26,788 --> 00:24:28,908
Speaker 9: Shout out to Morgan's.

556
00:24:29,188 --> 00:24:31,428
Speaker 6: Shout out to all the men and women at Accura,

557
00:24:31,868 --> 00:24:33,708
Speaker 6: and you know what, Shout out to the Panthers.

558
00:24:33,788 --> 00:24:36,788
Speaker 9: Keep pounding. We call them Jersey man, now we call

559
00:24:36,828 --> 00:24:39,508
Speaker 9: them our friend. Joe van Hoven, give it up for.

560
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Speaker 8: The joy you team Black.

561
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Speaker 9: Let's go. Let's go, Yes, get them up, Jerseys.

562
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Speaker 11: They could not have stole the ball now before the game.

563
00:25:06,548 --> 00:25:09,108
Speaker 3: We've talked about Donald in big games, talked about it yesterday.

564
00:25:09,268 --> 00:25:11,348
Speaker 3: Perty never seems to flinch. She's one of the top

565
00:25:11,468 --> 00:25:15,388
Speaker 3: quarterbacks now in the NFC. It's bull season. It's changed

566
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Speaker 3: the narrative Bowl on Saturday for these two quarterbacks, brock

567
00:25:18,988 --> 00:25:24,268
Speaker 3: Perty trying to dismiss being mister irrelevant and Sam Donald trying.

568
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Speaker 2: To be relevant in big moments. All right, man Tai.

569
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Speaker 3: Who will change their narrative surrounding them the most this weekend?

570
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Speaker 7: Well, the person that I think has the most to

571
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Speaker 7: change would be Sam Donald, Jamie. I think when you

572
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Speaker 7: look at Sam Donald, there is that narrative of when

573
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Speaker 7: it's a pressure situation that he doesn't play his best football. Now,

574
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Speaker 7: for me, when I watch Sam Donald play, I'm not

575
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Speaker 7: sure if it's the pressure of the situation or the

576
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Speaker 7: pressure of the rush that he's going up against. Fortunately,

577
00:25:52,948 --> 00:25:55,748
Speaker 7: he's not going to get the ladder because four nine

578
00:25:55,788 --> 00:25:57,788
Speaker 7: ers are dead last and sacks on their second last,

579
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Speaker 7: second to last and QB pressure. Unfortunately, if he doesn't

580
00:26:02,228 --> 00:26:05,708
Speaker 7: perform well, we will know what his and his allergy

581
00:26:05,828 --> 00:26:09,468
Speaker 7: is to the situation. Now, the problem is if you're

582
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Speaker 7: if you are allergic to a pressure situation. There is

583
00:26:14,268 --> 00:26:16,708
Speaker 7: no zer tech or fast acting medicine that can get

584
00:26:16,788 --> 00:26:19,188
Speaker 7: rid of that. You're going to have to figure out

585
00:26:19,228 --> 00:26:22,908
Speaker 7: something internally to help rewire him or reprogram him to

586
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Speaker 7: kind of be more calm in those pressure pack situations.

587
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Speaker 7: So the person that I think has the most to

588
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Speaker 7: change is Sam Darnold in this situation, Mike Gie.

589
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Speaker 8: It's tough because Matti Brock Party narrative, I guess you

590
00:26:35,708 --> 00:26:38,468
Speaker 8: could say, has been sort of flipped on its head already.

591
00:26:38,508 --> 00:26:41,028
Speaker 8: And we talked about this the other day on the show, saying,

592
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Speaker 8: is the mister irrelevant thing now out the window? But

593
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Speaker 8: I think this game becomes a little bit different. It

594
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Speaker 8: becomes is Brock Party the guy? Is he the franchise quarterback?

595
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Speaker 8: Is he the guy that can win you a game

596
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Speaker 8: in a big spot like this?

597
00:26:55,908 --> 00:26:56,668
Speaker 9: Is he not just a.

598
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Speaker 8: Guy that's, you know, stacking numbers and just perfect for

599
00:27:00,948 --> 00:27:03,188
Speaker 8: Kyle Shanahan's system. Is he a guy that can go

600
00:27:03,268 --> 00:27:06,908
Speaker 8: out and make a play that, As Chris Collinsworth noted

601
00:27:06,948 --> 00:27:10,188
Speaker 8: in a moment of incredible self awareness, if Patrick Mahomes

602
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Speaker 8: had done this, we'd be gushing about this. I think

603
00:27:12,828 --> 00:27:15,268
Speaker 8: that's where we are now with Party is the upper

604
00:27:15,348 --> 00:27:18,828
Speaker 8: echelon the old Joe Fleco is brock Purty elite conversation.

605
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Speaker 8: I think that's where we are, and I think that's

606
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Speaker 8: what could change. Or further, I think is where we

607
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Speaker 8: are with brock parties.

608
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Speaker 6: I'm going party here and brock Purty started a Super

609
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Speaker 6: Bowl start. Brock Purty played really well in that Super

610
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Speaker 6: Bowl against the real Chiefs, not the zombie ones we

611
00:27:33,268 --> 00:27:35,388
Speaker 6: saw this week, and then they took them overtime.

612
00:27:35,748 --> 00:27:37,428
Speaker 5: Rock Purty did not throw an interception to not have

613
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Speaker 5: a fumble. He was sacked once.

614
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Speaker 6: Like brock Purty doesn't have to change squad unless that's

615
00:27:41,388 --> 00:27:43,268
Speaker 6: what Mike is saying, is that when people make there,

616
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Speaker 6: here's my top ten quarterbacks, everybody click on it. Brock

617
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Speaker 6: Perty's not in there. He should be. That's what he

618
00:27:48,348 --> 00:27:49,788
Speaker 6: has to change. But he's not going to change that

619
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Speaker 6: this weekend. That's going to change next month. If he's

620
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Speaker 6: going to do that, it's Sam Donald. It's Sam Donald

621
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Speaker 6: a thousand times over, and he's doing it, and I'm

622
00:27:57,828 --> 00:27:59,708
Speaker 6: really impressed that he's doing He beat the Rams, he

623
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Speaker 6: beat the Panthers.

624
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Speaker 5: You beat this team and you go and you take

625
00:28:02,588 --> 00:28:04,108
Speaker 5: a week off and we don't talk about you for

626
00:28:04,148 --> 00:28:04,348
Speaker 5: a week.

627
00:28:04,748 --> 00:28:06,428
Speaker 6: That's we don't talk about you for good reason, because

628
00:28:06,428 --> 00:28:08,708
Speaker 6: you're the number one seed in the NFC. Sam Donald

629
00:28:08,748 --> 00:28:12,388
Speaker 6: still has a maybe irresponsible stink on him from the

630
00:28:12,468 --> 00:28:15,948
Speaker 6: Jets era, from the Panthers era, from that bleeping SoundBite

631
00:28:15,948 --> 00:28:18,428
Speaker 6: about the ghost that he still hears that craft. He

632
00:28:18,508 --> 00:28:21,868
Speaker 6: can actually ghost busting this weekend if he starts to

633
00:28:21,908 --> 00:28:23,828
Speaker 6: do that, and he can really start to say, Sam

634
00:28:23,948 --> 00:28:26,028
Speaker 6: donald incredible story really really is.

635
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Speaker 5: He's got a huge amount to overcome and I hope

636
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Speaker 5: he does it.

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Speaker 13: Good.

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Speaker 9: Momot Moll