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Speaker 1: Michael Jenkins' former NFL Atlanta Falcon in Minnesota Viking chilling

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Speaker 1: with my guys Ruman Harper and Charles. Peanut Tillman doing

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Speaker 1: a little medical device sales. Now in my second act,

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Speaker 1: join this NFL player Second Acts Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Peanut Tulman and this is the NFL Player's Second

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Speaker 2: Acts podcast.

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Speaker 3: This is my guy, Roman Harper. What's up? What's up? Man?

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Speaker 3: That was very quick and easy, So thank you for

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Speaker 3: pushing that to me.

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Speaker 4: First involved foremost shout out to iHeart Radio for allowing

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Speaker 4: to use their studios. Really looking forward to talking to

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Speaker 4: this guest today. I don't think I've ever had a

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Speaker 4: genuine conversation outside of a helmet with this gentleman, So me,

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Speaker 4: I'm really looking forward to it. I can't wait because

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Speaker 4: I've been a big fan of this for a long time.

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Speaker 4: And Peanut tell us who it is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he is a first round pick out of the

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Speaker 2: Ohio State. He's a national champion, played nine seasons in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. He's a broadcast was across the gym, and

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Speaker 2: he's in medical sales. Ladies and gentlemen, please walk theme

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Speaker 2: to the park. Michael Jacobs. Now, I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: When when we finished with the last guests and he

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Speaker 2: came in up, I like kind of looked, oh, he

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Speaker 2: kind of looked like viz Card a little bit.

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Speaker 3: In the building. He was a talk who is this

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Speaker 3: tight end? Oh no, this is the receiver. I just

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Speaker 4: Have you continued to grow because like I played against

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Speaker 4: you many times, I just thought it was the Cleatson helmet.

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Speaker 3: But no, you really are really talk.

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Speaker 5: Yeah six five NFL measurements didn't lie?

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Speaker 3: Man, Well all right, we'll talking about the NFL measurements.

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Speaker 4: How about how do you think you measure up with

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Speaker 4: the tradition of the Ohio States receivers?

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Speaker 3: All you guys that you put in an y'all, it's

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Speaker 3: a bunch of y'all. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Man, you got Joey Galloway, Terry Terry Glenn, who I

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Speaker 4: love aka Spider Man, David Boston. I mean, the dude

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Speaker 4: can lift the whole house, maybe a little too Schwall tackle,

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Speaker 4: Michael Jenkins, of course, yourself, Santonio Holmes, h Ted Gin Junior,

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Speaker 4: who are both on Playmore All American Team, and myself

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Speaker 4: shout out to me super Anthony Gonzales.

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Speaker 3: Who had a really good career. I was actually went

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Speaker 4: Yeah all right, Chrys Olive, Garrett Wilson, Jackson Smith and

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Speaker 4: Jigba and of course Marvin Harrison Jr. The latest one,

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Speaker 4: and they got two more in the stalls right now

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Speaker 5: It's crazy. But let me ask y'all, does that make

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Speaker 5: us whide receiver you? Or is it L s U?

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Speaker 5: L s US?

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Speaker 3: Think about this?

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Speaker 2: One question is out of you guys in L s U,

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Speaker 2: how many have Hall of Famers?

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Speaker 3: Are there any Hall of famers?

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Speaker 1: Out of those? It's cardis Chris Carter hall of Famer?

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Speaker 1: Yeah he isn't. It took him a while though.

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Speaker 2: If you take a while, he didn't get Now what

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Speaker 2: about L SHU? How many Hall of Fame receivers do

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Speaker 2: they have?

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Speaker 3: Would you say so?

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Speaker 1: I I just can't just go off of just I'm

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Speaker 1: just I think Ohio State has put straight dogs in

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Speaker 1: go to Alabama, I had to redo it all over again.

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Speaker 1: The Ohio State would be the second best university in

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Speaker 4: I think that's a strong statement, but I believe in that.

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Speaker 4: But man, the recency of what l s U has

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Speaker 4: done as far as like the wide receivers, though, it's

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Speaker 4: like it's pretty legit because I mean, you can't. You

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Speaker 3: Now, No, you can't.

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Speaker 2: But when the question is, though, is a receiver you

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Speaker 2: at Ohio State or receiver you at LSU? I think

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Speaker 2: it's Ohio State because the consistency over the years. I'm

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Speaker 3: Their most recent is basically two guys. I know what

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Speaker 2: I'm going off of like I'm going off they.

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Speaker 3: Give them their flowers, but it went back to ninety five. Bro,

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Speaker 3: I agree with you. I'm gonna say the oios. How

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Speaker 3: is that in tradition the years that would be one.

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Speaker 4: I hate to say it, but Alabama's in there in

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Speaker 1: I think if you look at over like you said,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Terry McLaurin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you add all those guys and would take in

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Speaker 3: It's a lot their top two.

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Speaker 2: So I want to talk to you about the Holy

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Speaker 2: Buck Guy play and on this play, is it true

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Speaker 2: that you ran the wrong round?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. Well, Rob, you supposed to run technically,

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Speaker 1: So I beat my guy Antoine Rodgers, who fun fact,

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Speaker 1: we played little league football together in Cincinnati, Ohio. But

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Speaker 1: I just kept going up the field me and Crimson Hessl. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So do people ever ask you because people you said,

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Speaker 4: you get asked about that all the time. It's another

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Speaker 4: and that is the fourth and fourteen play in overtime

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Speaker 4: that was the play that really saved it or really

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, for one, nobody thought we had a

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at that roster Miami had

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Miami had won thirty three straight college football game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody that was Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about Sean Taylor, DJ, DJ Williams,

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Speaker 4: In the Hall of Famers all over they got Hall

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, we came out.

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Speaker 1: I think they kind of obviously didn't take us as

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Speaker 1: we put up a fight and get to that point,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, it's fourth and fourteen They've been playing

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Speaker 1: cover two man pretty much the whole game, and that

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Speaker 1: State got my depth once again, Crims will hit me

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Speaker 3: You must have been his man that year. Correctly. He

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Speaker 3: always for you try it. I tried, just do my job.

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Speaker 2: You get to the league. Now you got to prove

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Speaker 2: yourself all over again. So you know the players on

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Speaker 2: your team. What was it like getting to the Falcons?

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Speaker 2: And then also I want to know what was your

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Speaker 2: welcome to the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Moment getting to the Falcons. It was, Yeah, it's a

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Speaker 1: pretty cool moment. Oh four draft kind of going back

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Speaker 1: to the Natty. You know, I'm a junior in college.

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Speaker 1: You win the Natty, then everybody's thinking, like, all right,

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Speaker 1: Jink's gone. Maurice Koret was trying to fight the NFL

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Speaker 1: and leave. But basically all your top stars you think

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Speaker 1: me in the locker room after the Natty and like,

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Speaker 1: so are you leaving?

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Speaker 5: I'm like, what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: You know, like I love playing college ball of our teammates, Like,

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Speaker 3: Go to four.

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Speaker 1: Now we got seven potential first round picks. That receiver

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Speaker 1: very veteran led team. Yeah, mud Duck McClure centered all

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like, all right, you know things, doing

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Speaker 1: the verge again, cut and nothing like that, but they're like, you.

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Speaker 3: Can't make the club, like that rook you can't make the.

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Speaker 5: Club, you know. You know, that was just kind of

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Speaker 4: I like that they knew you were a rookie and

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Speaker 4: the fact that you drive that pass.

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Speaker 3: They just talked bad to you. Anyway, anyway, take it

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Speaker 3: to you can't say nothing, you know.

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Speaker 4: So what was it like catching a Michael Vick pass

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Speaker 4: if like you got to in the beginning.

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Speaker 1: In the beginning, it is said, let's say I'm running

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when they cauterized and they're opening up the skins

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Speaker 3: We got to do it. We can do it on

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Speaker 3: All right, tell me this, Mike, I hear you are.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to put this label on you. But

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Speaker 4: Are you a sneaker head?

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Speaker 4: So how many pairs of shoes do you have. I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and now my kids are in it, and it's bad.

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Speaker 5: That was five years ago.

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Speaker 3: Now where is there is there a spot in the

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Speaker 1: There's you know, half closed, half shoes, but it's yes,

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Speaker 1: my brother, Yes, tell me this. Are they all Nikes?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 1: I probably go my most sentimental pairs Jordan twelve Playoffs.

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Speaker 1: That was my first ever pair of Jordan's so ninety

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you still got them?

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Speaker 5: Not that pair got.

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Speaker 5: The Alabama money start kicking in.

442
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Speaker 3: No, my my girlfriend actually bought them for me. Who's

443
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Speaker 3: my wife now and taking care of you men that.

444
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 3: But now I have a whole.

445
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Speaker 4: Bunch, and so it's just the coups running over my

446
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Speaker 4: favorite or the eleven. I mean, I don't think you

447
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 4: can get better than Concords. It's just the most classic.

448
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Speaker 4: Nobody in the gym SS.

449
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Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, I absolutely agree. Yeah, I like the Space

450
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Speaker 2: Jams though, I love the Space Jams.

451
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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm not mad at that. Yeah, elevens at all. Yeah,

452
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Speaker 3: to me, eleven and ones are my faves. What are

453
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Speaker 3: your faves? Favorite Nike? You shoot, you don't. They don't

454
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Speaker 3: have to be.

455
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Speaker 5: I mean, if we're going Jordan's, it's it's one, eleven

456
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Speaker 5: and fours.

457
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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so on eleven fours that's probably what are yours.

458
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Speaker 3: I'm an eleven eleven, three, eleven four type guy. Yeah.

459
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Speaker 3: You like threes?

460
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I got a lot of threes too, So.

461
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Speaker 1: Coming we're at the point now my wife is like,

462
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Speaker 1: don't buy any more. She likes them to, she loves

463
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 1: them too. Yeah, you know, so you got to buy himself.

464
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Speaker 5: You know. I just got her some Nike formearros.

465
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Speaker 3: You know.

466
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Speaker 1: It's like so she's like, okay, you know, but me

467
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Speaker 1: and my ups guy, you know, sometimes.

468
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Speaker 3: That's funny, like y'all on the first name block away

469
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Speaker 3: I got.

470
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Speaker 1: So the shoe confession, the shoe obsession has kind of

471
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Speaker 1: turned into bourbon now, okay, so I'm a big bourbon guy.

472
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so it's good resale value. Bourbon is just

473
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 1: like the shoe market. You can't get a you know,

474
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Speaker 1: these when they come out of retail. There are three

475
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Speaker 1: four x the price for bourbon secondary market.

476
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Speaker 3: I'm an uncle Nero's guy. Okay, that's a good story.

477
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: Hate story. I didn't know about it, and then I

478
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 3: once I saw the story, I was like, I was

479
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: all in, Oh, yeah, I'll never drink jack again. Yeah,

480
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 3: I'm entrepreneurs all day every day. Then we can that's

481
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: a whole nother story. We'll we'll we'll talk about that.

482
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Speaker 3: I'll educate showing that. But it's it's a great story.

483
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: If you don't know it. I don't know it, but yeah, educate.

484
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Speaker 2: After we get off this one, I'll see you in

485
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Speaker 2: You got a question for you this year's CrossFit games.

486
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Speaker 3: Did you compete in them?

487
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Speaker 5: No? I never made to that level.

488
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Speaker 3: You didn't make it to that level.

489
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Speaker 5: Not the game, not like what you see on TV.

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Speaker 1: But I'll do the you know, they have all the

491
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Speaker 1: gyms worldwide, do the little competition.

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Speaker 5: So I did a few few of the workouts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So do you do you know some of the

494
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 3: stats on like what I did? Yeah? Do you know?

495
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Speaker 2: I haven't what you got? So the back squad it

496
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,879
Speaker 2: was four to twenty. The deadlift was two. Excuse me,

497
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Speaker 2: the deadlift was five thirty. The cleaning jerk two six

498
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Speaker 2: to five. You in college, fight gone bad three twenty seven.

499
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Speaker 2: I don't even know what that is. The friend was

500
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Speaker 2: for four minutes. Yeah, friend was four minutes eight seconds.

501
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Speaker 2: The grace was two o two. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: that was. Yeah, Helen's ten forty six, ten minutes forty

503
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Speaker 2: six seconds, and the snatch was two oh five.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all that's all from.

505
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, ground that's you're a tall guy.

506
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Speaker 1: Crossman is not a tall man, not at all. So everybody,

507
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Speaker 1: especially the ones you see that make it professionally in CrossFit,

508
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: they're all like the same exact bill, like five, six

509
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Speaker 1: to five ten, maybe the tallest like one eight five.

510
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Speaker 1: You know, so a six five guys shying CrossFit is

511
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Speaker 1: not idea.

512
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Speaker 3: Do you consider it a sporter or is it just exercise?

513
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Speaker 3: Are you asking me? I'm asking both, y'all. I just

514
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: looked at you. I mean it's sporty. I think it's sporty.

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Speaker 4: I think they're amazing athletes, but it's also like I think,

516
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Speaker 4: I don't know how good. I don't know, because when

517
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Speaker 4: I say athlete, I'm thinking like athleticism, which means you

518
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Speaker 4: can do multiple things, like multiple sports. I don't know

519
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Speaker 4: how good these frost fitters would be in other sports.

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Speaker 3: That's my only knock on it. So it's so you

521
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Speaker 3: consider it an exercise. I didn't say that. I said

522
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Speaker 3: what I said.

523
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Speaker 5: Do you consider race car drivers? Go?

524
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Speaker 1: Must say yes, because I do cross fits, so I

525
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Speaker 1: can see it a sports an athlete. I like that

526
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Speaker 1: find And I've done a race car driving too, So.

527
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Speaker 2: I think you've got to be I think you got

528
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Speaker 2: to have endurance and stamina and you got to work

529
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Speaker 2: out to do it.

530
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Speaker 3: But I don't know if you're an athlete per se

531
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Speaker 3: kind of sort of. I don't know. Are you an athlete?

532
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Speaker 3: If you ride horses, of course you're Are you an athlete?

533
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Speaker 3: Or or does the horse do all the work?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think your legs are different if you

535
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Speaker 6: is there a sport ride horses? Is that a sport?

536
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Speaker 6: Or the horse is doing all the work? I know

537
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 6: I got to sneer them, but like go left, go right?

538
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Speaker 3: Whoa buddy? And you got to wait like less than

539
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: hundred twenty pounds? Yeah, you gotta wait less than hundred

540
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 3: jockeys jockeys or athletes? Is that is? That? Is it

541
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 3: that's a sport. I do know this.

542
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 4: It's better to to bet on the jockey not the horse.

543
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, so you get the history on the

544
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: jockey makes the difference. So like you got to give

545
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 3: them some more credit than that. Okay, I'm just where

546
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 3: we are right now. We are talking about this sports.

547
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Speaker 4: So we think it's like ping pong, Like, I don't know.

548
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 4: Ping pong players are definitely athletes dog bowling. You've seen

549
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Speaker 4: what they do in the Olympics.

550
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 3: They are legit. Yeah, sorry, it's crazy. I don't know.

551
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. I couldn't either.

552
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 5: I can't shipping.

553
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 3: Have you seen them their way?

554
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: I'm a basement ping kong guy, I do. Here's my

555
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: final question mean by basement basement? Can playing my own

556
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: base common sense? You went down about me a little slower,

557
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: don't worry about that. My last question for you, Malt Rushmore.

558
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: You have had tremendous success in your life, and if

559
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: you had to pick four people who have had influence

560
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: on you, who would those four people be.

561
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm blessed and fortunate to have two parent household, grew

562
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: up in two parent household. I think I put mom

563
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Speaker 1: and dad up there.

564
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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want to do that as one You

565
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: want to think of this too, not make this too okay, Yeah,

566
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 3: hold on real quick.

567
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: While Mom and Dad, I mean they're the rock there,

568
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Speaker 1: the foundation, They're the reason why I've been able to

569
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: do and have what I've been able to do. Yeah,

570
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: And of course Dad was more of the kind of

571
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: pusher and force. Her Mom was, hey, that's enough, He's

572
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: okay if you don't have to go that far.

573
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Speaker 3: It's a good balance.

574
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 5: It was a good balance. It was a good balance.

575
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Speaker 1: But you know, I can still remember her sitting with

576
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Speaker 1: me literally like elementary school, perfecting penmanship, with my studies

577
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So, uh, like you said, a

578
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: really good balance with those two. Love him to death,

579
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Speaker 1: coaching wise, coach Jim Trussell.

580
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 3: No doubt I was hoping you'd say that.

581
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I wish he was still coaching. Man.

582
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: He uh, you know, people talk about players coach and

583
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: all that, but somehow he found a way in his

584
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: own way to relate, you know, to kids coming from

585
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: all over and motivate and just being somebody you want

586
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: to be around. And you know, he would have guys

587
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: over his house, his wife, his kids. It was it was.

588
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 5: It was special with what Trussell did while he was there.

589
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: So he's he's always been a big, a big fan

590
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: of mine. Still talk to him to this day, which

591
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: is pretty cool. Plus three four Ah, probably my godfather,

592
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Speaker 1: uh mister we call it mister Nick h army bud

593
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: with my dad, but one of my dad's best friends.

594
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: But just someone I can always just I didn't want

595
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: to talk to my dad and we was fussing about stuff.

596
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: I call my god dad, you know, and we're working

597
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: out and talk about you know, your pops just look.

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00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 5: Man, he just.

599
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know so and then you know he'd be

600
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: along the way of life lessons too. And we go

601
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: to the basketball court and them too, rough me up

602
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen years old, you know, and just you know,

603
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: just taught me, you know, fight through things, no matter

604
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: what it is.

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Speaker 3: So it's pretty cool to have people like that in

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Speaker 3: your life. That's dope.

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Speaker 4: That's good, lischen I like, man, I love that list.

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00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: Shout out to all the godfathers and uncles out there.

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00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 4: That's keeping it alive. When yeah, when dad tripping, yeah

610
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: that happens. So it takes a village, truly, it does.

611
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: And shout out to coach Jim Tressel as well. I

612
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 4: heard great things about it. I've heard nothing but great things.

613
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, you know, he's

614
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 4: a hell of a coach. All did was win from

615
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: Youngstown as well, right Youngstown State to even to Ohio State.

616
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 4: And he paid the ultimate sacrifice to protect his players.

617
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 4: And so in a school and in a sport that

618
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 4: we've seen change where now it's more about me and

619
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 4: what coach is, getting his looks and doing all this,

620
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 4: he was the one coach that I will always say

621
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 4: he died, fell on the sword for his players and

622
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 4: wouldn't let nobody get inside that locker room and break

623
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Speaker 4: them up. So shout out to him preparing the ultimate sacrifice.

624
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: So in Ohio State loves him for it.

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00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 3: Now.

626
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 4: It's crazy how mad they were at the time, how

627
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: they treat him now where every time he shows back up.

628
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: So it's crazy, man. But anyways, Mike Man, thanks man.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate your time, Appreciate you having me, appreciate the blessing man,

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