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Speaker 2: Wow, p G say it with me. I f you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that, because I have actually not

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Speaker 1: considered the fact that it is Friday, and this is

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Speaker 1: something obviously time affects us, whether we like it or not,

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Speaker 1: and I have not been letting time affect me.

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Speaker 2: Because you're on your in the midst of your week

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Speaker 2: off work. The rest of the month, you were mad

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Speaker 2: men putting on the suit, cheating on your wife fifteen

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Speaker 2: martiniz that line quite literally always knew exactly what time

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Speaker 2: it was your secretary was getting sexually hers. This week,

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Speaker 2: you are in Bushwick, you are going to the Underground Show.

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Speaker 2: You are having an orgy in the in the dark

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Speaker 2: room at basement. Yeah, seeing Charlie XX at boiler room.

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Speaker 2: This is not normally what our podcast is like. Of no,

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Speaker 2: of me just saying gay guy references.

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Speaker 1: No, but you're really good at it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I mean, I know.

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Speaker 1: Someone's been on Twitter this week.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, some would say it's one of the few

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Speaker 2: things I've done.

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Speaker 1: I've actually had the most UNTGIF day of my life.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it's one fifteen pm. Not to

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Speaker 2: break the fourth wall. Okay, what can you have done

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Speaker 2: at this point, you have.

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Speaker 1: No idea what I have been up to. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: have packed up all of my clothes in my apartment

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Speaker 1: today into boxes this very morning.

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Speaker 2: Because, of course, you and your partner are moving temporarily

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Speaker 2: at least to the city of Los Angeles.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Hard temporary, huh And everyone whenever you say that,

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Speaker 1: everyone rolls their eyes at you. They say, oh, just

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Speaker 1: say you're moving. I'm not. It's temporary.

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Speaker 2: What are the How are you handling the fact that

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Speaker 2: you are attempting to sublet your apartment furnished, just furnished,

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Speaker 2: also inc everything you own except for clothes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking getting my clothes out. That's number one.

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna hire sorry to lea right off the bat?

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Speaker 2: Are you gonna hire someone to do deep clean?

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Speaker 1: I think we will. Is this part of this is

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Speaker 1: like an ad for my sublet?

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Well you do not to call you out.

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Speaker 2: You do need some.

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Speaker 1: People, Okay, But by the time this comes out, I

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Speaker 1: might not that's true, hopefully not. And mostly I'm clothed,

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Speaker 1: and if there's anything like super personal, I'll take it out, dildo, dildo,

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Speaker 1: I'll leave the the loobs.

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Speaker 2: I don't use all the loobs, leave loobs around the house,

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Speaker 2: like how people have coasters so you don't stand the table.

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Speaker 1: Well, also you have to get people some like easter eggs,

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Speaker 1: Like you need to be like like because here's what

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Speaker 1: they're gonna want to snoop, and so you have to

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Speaker 1: give them something to find so they can have joy.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if you're in a sublet an Airbnb and you

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Speaker 1: discount that.

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Speaker 2: But what if they then, like you know, post about

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Speaker 1: George this you don't understand that's best case scenario scenario. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've I don't know, have I told you this my

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Speaker 1: new mindset, which is I don't know how much of

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Speaker 1: a joke it is. Okay, But like somebody was talking

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Speaker 1: that plane, and I'm like, are you kidding me? That's

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Speaker 1: the only plane I'm gonna take it because that's the book.

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Speaker 2: But you would die.

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Speaker 1: I was on the plane where the door fell off

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Speaker 1: and I lived. Well, here's the thing, there's an invincibility complex.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: First of all, where I'm like, well, I won't be

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Speaker 1: the one that dies, right, I will be the one

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Speaker 1: that gets a book.

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Speaker 2: Well, so this is the thing with things happening to

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Speaker 2: you and the trauma of any kind trauma, It is

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Speaker 2: it's unrelatable for anyone else. I think, of course, growing

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Speaker 2: up in a cult is a dream.

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Speaker 1: That's the fantasy. That's the fantasy, Like you pretty much

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it can't be too dark no. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to say specific crimes that can be committing

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Speaker 2: cults and have been, but there can't be anything that

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Speaker 1: No. Just isolation, Yes, that's the key.

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Speaker 2: Isolation.

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Speaker 1: Maybe some cultural norms that are Ye.

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Speaker 2: Hadn't been inside a burger king A yeah? Thirty five?

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's a book. I feel like this is the

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Speaker 1: trauma thing is interesting because I was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: as I went to the hospital once famously, well and

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Speaker 1: so and so I was like, Okay, this is juicy.

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Speaker 1: I'm at the hospital, like, I, this sucks, but I

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Speaker 1: posting and it's gonna be huge.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Then I go to the hospital a second time a

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Speaker 1: month and a half later, and I say, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how much I'm gonna want to post about this one,

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Speaker 1: because then you're sort of hospital guy and you're sort

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Speaker 1: and that's when things start getting unfun.

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Speaker 2: Well. The thing with health issues and commodifying them to

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Speaker 2: say a book is that they have to first resolve

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Speaker 2: themselves and then you can tell the story. Because if

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Speaker 2: people are actively worried about yeah, you either have to

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Speaker 2: die yeah, published posthumously, or potentially have a partner or

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Speaker 2: family members write a book called My Brother Sam. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That would be a bummer, right because then I.

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Speaker 2: Because you would not be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So either that or you live, and then it's the

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Speaker 2: triumphant story of the triumphant human fruit. You can say

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Speaker 2: the boy who lived, The boy who lived, Yeah by

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Speaker 2: Sam Tiggert I.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there also is like, yeah, hospital twice. That's when

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Speaker 1: people really I've been trying I was referring to it

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Speaker 1: recently as hospital tokens, where it's like you can post,

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Speaker 1: you can use one hospital token a year and be

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Speaker 1: like post about being in the hospital once, and then

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Speaker 1: once you're out of hospital tokens, you can't post anymore.

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Speaker 2: I think, Okay, I see what you're saying. But I

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Speaker 2: You both times were a little bit like, sh I'm

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Speaker 2: I have to say, I'm probably one of the people

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Speaker 2: I think I barely understand exactly where we're at in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you and my mom both right, everyone's like, what's

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Speaker 1: going on? I'm like, I don't know. I'm not the doctor, right, No,

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Speaker 1: I do, be clear.

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Speaker 2: The doctor is my future father in law, so I should,

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Speaker 2: obsessed with doctor patient confidence.

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Speaker 1: I actually find that so problematic. It's like spill the.

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Speaker 2: T I'm literally every time I see him, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: are you gonna spill the tea?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, I told him so that he would

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Speaker 1: spread the word like, yeah, I wave my confidence out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so any updates.

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Speaker 1: You know I'm actually getting surgery, No, in a week

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Speaker 1: and a half.

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Speaker 2: What Yeah, you never tell me anything.

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Speaker 1: Why would I tell you it's upcoming. I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: what it's doing. Well, that's sort of my theory.

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Speaker 2: Okay, there's so much I think we might have to

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Speaker 2: bring in our bring in our guests because we need

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Speaker 3: Rift that was there was so much juice in that

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Speaker 3: you have to unpack. Yeah, at some point, right, so

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Speaker 3: you don't.

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Speaker 2: Have to do it right now, no, no questions.

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Speaker 3: Maybe off camera, maybe after the pod, but once the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot. There's a lot of story here.

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Speaker 2: And let me just say please welcome Jibuoki on White.

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Speaker 3: Hello everybody.

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Speaker 2: Hi, So my boyfriend's father is a doctor. Not to brag, Okay, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking it as a brag. I'm very jealous.

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Speaker 1: And doctor that's.

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Speaker 2: Right in New York City, in the Borough of Manhattan.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty much the nicest kind of doctor you can get.

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Speaker 2: Was this by accident that this happened or was no? No,

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Speaker 2: Sam Sam at one point not to call you out

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Speaker 2: was like in Blee Hospital. Then I told everyone Sam

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Speaker 2: is that Blee hospital, and every single person I knew

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Speaker 2: was like, get him out of there. People die there

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Speaker 2: every day.

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Speaker 1: So then I was like, who do I know.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, who oh, spam Risk Okay. I

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Speaker 2: was like, yeah, they're like top anyway, it's not so then,

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Speaker 2: and then I was like, can can Matthew's dad he's

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Speaker 2: think missus having patience.

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Speaker 1: He really love that. Yeah, he actually like I kept

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Speaker 1: dropping the like line of convo. I was like, well

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Speaker 1: up and I was like, this is actually so nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not used to the only way you can

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Speaker 2: get good medical care in this country is if your

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Speaker 2: podcast co host's boyfriend's dad is a retired doctor.

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Speaker 1: I mean honestly, I like could not have gotten as

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Speaker 2: So there you go, Chibuki, what do you think is

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Speaker 2: the appropriate number of times you can post from a

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Speaker 2: hospital in one calendar year? And then as a gay creator, as.

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Speaker 1: A gay content creator whose brand is fun.

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Speaker 3: It really it really depends. I feel like there's definitely one,

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Speaker 3: probably for you being the patient. But then after that

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Speaker 3: go crazy visiting the India. Oh that's true. It could

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Speaker 3: just be like I had an experience that really opened

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Speaker 3: my eyes, and now I kind of love hospitals.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to never say his heart. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: have fun in hospitals. You could like, go do tiktoks

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Speaker 2: with them. Start a comedy show. Yeah, start a comedy

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Speaker 2: in the non denominational chapel.

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Speaker 1: That's a great idea. I actually did go back to

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Speaker 1: pick up records one day and I was like, God,

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Speaker 1: I loved it here.

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Speaker 2: You said that. I was like, I thought of vinyl record.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, if you have ever been

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Speaker 1: to the record store inside of the hospital, that would

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Speaker 1: actually be actually great price.

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Speaker 2: This is idea. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well no, I've always been pushing just one room that

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Speaker 2: One thank you?

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Speaker 1: Why was Why is that illegal?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is it so wrong to want to catch a vibe

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Speaker 3: in a hospital.

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Speaker 1: If a bill is one hundred thousand dollars, you can't

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Speaker 1: make one room with smart lights?

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Speaker 2: And then people that do commentary posting videos are like, okay,

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Speaker 3: Basically the moral of the video was like, I guess

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Speaker 1: Oh so it's like a Willy Wonka style story.

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Speaker 2: What if it is, Like it might be, it might.

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Speaker 3: What age do I wish I was? Honestly, I'm twenty

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine is a little bit like you've been edging

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Speaker 2: I mean, if there was an entertainment industry within the

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Speaker 5: Should be our first segment, I think, so, Jubuk.

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Speaker 2: Your first segment is called straight Shooters Guns.

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Speaker 1: Okay, duoki, Yes, among us, last of us or all

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Speaker 2: Being nominated for an oscar or being dominated by an impostor.

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Speaker 1: Being dominated by an Okay, Two Birds with one Stone

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Speaker 2: Two Birds, one Stone, A delicious meal prepared by your wife,

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Speaker 2: We were being overly generous with our guest. Period was

443
00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,160
Speaker 2: this week, period was this week one thousand, one thousand,

444
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 2: one thousand. Then we gave one person eight fifty fifty

445
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 2: two fifty two? How do you feel like, Jabuki?

446
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 1: Did you know? I'm trying to gauge. So what's interesting

447
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 1: about this game is now it's becoming a mirror on us,

448
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 1: and we're feeling about judging people because you know, we

449
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,160
Speaker 1: were being so so generous and then we overcorrected and

450
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 1: we were being so so critical and I'm sort of like,

451
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 1: where are we at? I know, And so with that

452
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 1: being said, I think nine hundred and twenty three doves.

453
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 2: I think that is exactly your score.

454
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: Okay, because you know, I felt like you listened in

455
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,919
Speaker 1: a way that was really important. Okay, but there was

456
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,720
Speaker 1: some hesitation still, and I could feel you sort of

457
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 1: working through that.

458
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 2: Right. You know, there's a part of me and this

459
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 2: is so not your fault. There's a part of me

460
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,960
Speaker 2: that's like we've had so many guests in a row

461
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 2: now not fight with us about the question thing. Usually

462
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,400
Speaker 2: people are trying so hard to ask a question because

463
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 2: the game makes no sense. We yell at them. You know,

464
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 2: we get mad. That's part of the joke. You know,

465
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 2: it becomes sort of an iconic improv.

466
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 1: Scene fighting fighting. A good improv scene is fighting.

467
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like, I'm ready for someone to come in,

468
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 2: guns of blazing and really like put us in our place,

469
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 2: sort of Robbie Hoffman's style. Yeah, but we keep booking

470
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 2: real pros that knows exactly what they're doing. Not that

471
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 2: Robbie Hoffman is not a real In fact, she's probably

472
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 2: the only pro in this town. Say that, say that,

473
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 2: wake that up. Yeah, what I will say is that

474
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:55,640
Speaker 2: I thought that.

475
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 3: All of them were going to be among Us themed.

476
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,959
Speaker 3: Maybe they were, and I just wasn't enough to catch it.

477
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 3: But the first you were like very among us themed?

478
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: Wait what was so I don't know anything about among us?

479
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,360
Speaker 2: I know yours was among.

480
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 1: Us among us of us?

481
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then what else was among this theme?

482
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: Did you say?

483
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 2: Was your impostor oh impost that came up? Yeah?

484
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 3: Being super heterosexual for even recognized, I'm actually very surprised.

485
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 2: Okay, what is among going to go down?

486
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean it was totally eight seventy four.

487
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, it's going what is the deal

488
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 2: with among Us. It's a game, okay, and what's it about?

489
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Speaker 3: And it was like really big during the pandemic, it

490
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 3: got like memed past its original popularity, and that's I

491
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,159
Speaker 3: feel like it overshadowed any impact that the game had to.

492
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, this is all right. This is something I've

493
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Speaker 2: been saying on stage, So apologies for sort of repeating myself.

494
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Speaker 2: I think the fact that I know nothing about among

495
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,439
Speaker 2: Us has like reminded me of this. I think the

496
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 2: lack of monoculture. The only solution to it is that

497
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: there needs to be a government mandated book club that

498
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,879
Speaker 2: everyone has to participate in and if you don't, you

499
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: get the death penalty, so that everyone gets on the

500
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: same page. And it has to be a neutral book,

501
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 2: like not you know not you know Howard's In, Like,

502
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 2: it has to be a neutral, politically neutral book, Barbara

503
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 2: Streisand's memoir, like just a neutral. Everyone has to read

504
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: it just for one year, just to get everyone back

505
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Speaker 2: on the same page, and then we can rebuild from there.

506
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Speaker 1: I think that's a nice goal, but I think obviously

507
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 1: the issue is choosing the book. Choosing the book because.

508
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Speaker 2: And enforcing the I mean, you know that part's easy.

509
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean imagine if suddenly everyone's being killed

510
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 2: on the street.

511
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,119
Speaker 1: I mean I would I would sit my ass down

512
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: in a coffee shop and I'd read the book.

513
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. So anyway, I'm taking ideas for what

514
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:55,359
Speaker 2: for what.

515
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: This Well, like, I would also fear that the Barbara

516
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Speaker 1: Streison book. You know, there's a chapter that's like, we

517
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Speaker 1: got to get this sky all the White House.

518
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: Well, I think the Barber Streisand book would almost unite

519
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 2: the country because for conservatives they would at least learn

520
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: about Barbara Streisand, and for liberals, you know, she's so

521
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: annoying that they would sort of be like, all right,

522
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 2: well maybe it's time to give someone else the mic,

523
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: or they'd be like, is this what I'm like? Exactly. No,

524
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: that's very true because it's really like a mirror. You're like,

525
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 2: oh god, she like doesn't have any self awareness, and

526
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 2: she keeps talking in this like mid Atlantic accent.

527
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Speaker 6: Right because it's the audiobook, Well yeah, you actually no, no, no, no, no,

528
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 6: I mean, approximately, I think eighty eight percent of the

529
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 6: country can't read, so we're not gonna we don't have

530
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 6: to have to first fix public school education and then

531
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Speaker 6: get a book club going.

532
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: We have to start where we're at.

533
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 2: I mean maybe we could even start with a streaming show.

534
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 2: Maybe that can be like away.

535
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. That's very egalitarian.

536
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm like, okay, what could it be?

537
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I do think. I mean the

538
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: pandemic if anything did bring that.

539
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: Culture there was monoculture for like, yeah, the first monoculture

540
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 2: was banging pots and pans, sour dough, sour dough.

541
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: I mean it was real. That was we want that

542
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: in theory.

543
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: That's that's true. Okay, So another pandemic, maybe food born

544
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: this time born?

545
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because I still want to be able to

546
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: go out right, Yeah that was Yeah, that sucks. That sucks.

547
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 2: A nice convergence, like ozempic is blowing up and it's like,

548
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: don't need it'll kill you.

549
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll that'll I feel like, check a lot of boxes.

550
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 2: Maybe a disease or ozempic is the well, I guess

551
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: it already exists.

552
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: Maybe it's like sunlight's bad for you. Now you can

553
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: only go out at night.

554
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 3: Oh that actually would that really cool? That could kind

555
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 3: of work, yeah, talk about yeah, and then everyone could

556
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 3: read like the weird like sci fi y a normal period. Okay,

557
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: like that's pretty good.

558
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: I mean lighting design would go through the roof.

559
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: That would be great.

560
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 3: Charlie xx would do another boiler room set.

561
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: Oh my god, didn't I The monoculture would literally be

562
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: Charlie xx boiler.

563
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: That's I love. H You should write a dystopian novel

564
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: where the dystopia is that. Suddenly, gay guy culture is monoculture.

565
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: So there are just like suburban moms that are like

566
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: talking about poppers. Oh, I guess that already exists. Yes,

567
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 2: actually we're almost at that point. Yeah, I've long said that.

568
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: I think we will only find our way when we

569
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: sort of move from a gay guy sensibility to a

570
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 2: lesbian sensibility. And I could almost feel that happening last year.

571
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt like, what's happening?

572
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: I think actually the rise of Barry Kyogan's Crazy Ass

573
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: marks a switch between gay guy and lesbian because they

574
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: are a dressing him like a lesbian and not a

575
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Speaker 2: gay guy like Simmy Shalame. They were trying Harry styles

576
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: to me the child. They were trying to make them

577
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: gay guys. Very Killgan. They said, that's a lesbian. The

578
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: bathtub pick you know.

579
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: That's yeah, yeah, it was kind of given, like Jamie Lee.

580
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: I mean they were kind of trying to dress Timothy

581
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: like a lesbian.

582
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 2: That's true with the weird suits.

583
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he could go either way, I guess.

584
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, Okay, that's interesting.

585
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: We'll think on it.

586
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: We'll think on it.

587
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: I mean it's all about what's Jacob a lord? Are

588
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: you gonna do? You know?

589
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: How long do you think that will last?

590
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 1: Forever?

591
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 2: Okay? He is tall. He is tall.

592
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: That's always kind of like Evergreen.

593
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: He's tall, and he takes himself really seriously, and I

594
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: think when you have those two elements, you're in it

595
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: for the long haul.

596
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: He takes himself really seriously, but also holds a little purse.

597
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: That's because he's listening to trends.

598
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: He's also huge, like every purse is little to him.

599
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 2: That's yeah. Maybe those are like full size burkins, but

600
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: because they do.

601
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: We need a scale, like yeah, I mean if I

602
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 3: hold up a A all times, yeah.

603
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: Like we just know what's going on people, don't, you know,

604
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: people not in our industry, not to keep in our

605
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: industry yet realize how difficult. And I'm not even kidding

606
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 2: it is to be a tall leading man.

607
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: That's so true, and it is that.

608
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: Are you confused?

609
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: Wait? Just keep going.

610
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: Maybe it's just it is just simply true. Like all,

611
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: it's difficult just to be on camera as a very

612
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: tall person. That's why sort of famously all heart throbs

613
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 2: and like leading men are secretly like five to two.

614
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: I actually did not know this to be fact.

615
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 2: You know, like Tom Cruise, like everyone is just shorter

616
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 2: than you think they are.

617
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, everyone is everyone, especially because the women are

618
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 3: like four feet yes exactly.

619
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: That was the number one thing that shocked me.

620
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 3: Like women are for feel tall starlets.

621
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the tallest one.

622
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, five two. Well, I always thought it was like

623
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: the story of like a Tom Cruise type was like

624
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 1: and he did it all despite being four ten.

625
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: No, I'm telling you they're all four.

626
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: It's because it's because I had no idea how.

627
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: I actually know of people. In fact, we all do that.

628
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: I feel like their career has been hurt by their height. Really,

629
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: who say, I'll tell you.

630
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: Wow, because I I know successful talls name one am

631
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: I allowed?

632
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: Well, they're successful? You're not draggon Joe Stranger thing?

633
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, John Reynolds, John John Reynolds.

634
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: But he's not as tall as Jacob Elordi. Jacobulordi is

635
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: like six six six ' five. He actually could be

636
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: in the NBA if you wanted to. That's like a

637
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: tall man's tall. He's a tall person's tall person. Yeah.

638
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, damn well, congrats to him. Despite all the odds,

639
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: he managed to succeed.

640
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: So we'll see. Should we get into our topic, Okay,

641
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: let's do it, JIBBOOKI, what is the straight topic that

642
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: you've brought to us today and what is straight about it?

643
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: To talk about contact sports? Wow, specifically contact sports, and

644
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: I want to create a binary between sports that have

645
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: contact and sports that don't have contact.

646
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: You were saying before skin to skin sports, skin to

647
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: skin sports, yes, raw.

648
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Sports, raw raw, yeah, uncut. I think sports that I

649
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,479
Speaker 1: think this is a really good topic because we've covered

650
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: specific sports before, but it's more we've covered like football

651
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: and hockey and like the cultures around them. But contact

652
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 1: sports as an entire genre is so specific in its

653
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: broadness because I specifically remember like being like what sports

654
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: should I do in high school? And being like, well,

655
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: I can't do the contact sports?

656
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: Yes, same, and so bad. Yeah, oh my god, so bad.

657
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: And that was you know, that wasn't a gay thing.

658
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't mind fully was a gay I wanted to

659
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: wrestle so bad.

660
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 2: It was so crazy that he that, like people were

661
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 2: just going around in high school doing that.

662
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: It actually was crazy.

663
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: It was also.

664
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: Extreme, like the lifestyles that they live. Yeah, them being like, yeah,

665
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 3: I'm like wearing a garbage bag all week, Like, yeah,

666
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 3: it was crazy.

667
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm spitting in the toilet all day. I hated that.

668
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: But it was very black Swan at the same time,

669
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 3: and ye, that's kind of what drew me to it. Also, Yeah,

670
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: it's like the psycho sexual like performance of it that

671
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: was very internal, you know.

672
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, well there is something about wrestling that, even though

673
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 2: it is of course so violent, there's also something so

674
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: quiet about it. Like they really are sort of just

675
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: motionless a lot of the time because they're pulling or

676
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 2: slash pushing an equal with equal strength. Like it's not

677
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: like boxing or something where you're just like pounding each other.

678
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I have to say, it's like, yeah, no, I'm

679
00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: contact sports is the central issue. This is gonna sy

680
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm literally homophobic.

681
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 2: Go go go.

682
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: This is a central issue. The gay guys are like,

683
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 1: well I don't want to be touching them because what

684
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: if like because touch means something different to me, right.

685
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: And to make them straight?

686
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that straight and touching because straight guys can do

687
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: it because they're like, of course I'll rub all of this. Guys,

688
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: I feel nothing.

689
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: Even like provocation. It's like, yeah, look at me jerking

690
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 2: him off, and one of us is going to win

691
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 2: a medal for being the least hard.

692
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: Being gay in contact sports is like being tall and

693
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: Hollywood acting.

694
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 2: That is a really good point because you.

695
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: Can do it. Yeah, but that odds are really sucked,

696
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: gods are.

697
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 2: Really sat you okay and okay? Yeah, And also being

698
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: tall in real life is a privilege. Yeah, and being

699
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: is this I'm saying, being gay in real life actually

700
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: is a real advantage to touching men. It's actually like

701
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: sort of the main thing that you have to be

702
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: in order to like go around touching men. That's true.

703
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: Whereas if you're straight and you want to go around

704
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: touching men, that's more difficult in real life. Well, you

705
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: have to play, you have to play. Like if you're

706
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: a straight man and you're like, god, I wish I

707
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: could touch men in a platonic way. You can only

708
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 2: do that in the ring. Yes, yes, I mean.

709
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: It's the only way to male bond.

710
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, huh okay.

711
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 3: But then I think what's interesting is that you look

712
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: at the non contact sports, right like tennis, yes.

713
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: Volleyball, Why are those gay? Well? Because those are gay coded?

714
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: Are they not?

715
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: No, they they are? Why are they gay? Well?

716
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: I do think this is a sort of slight type

717
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 2: of conversation. In terms of tennis, in terms of swimming,

718
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: I think the less team based the sport is, the

719
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: more gay it is because it's like individualistic who it's

720
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 2: like someone. Basically, it's sort of the sport equivalent of

721
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: post mirror self is playing tennis or or swimming on

722
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: a team.

723
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, there's okay, maybe this is fake.

724
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: There's also something about it where there's more like form involved.

725
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: Like football, you can kind of be a body and

726
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: you can just sort of like run forward a body.

727
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 2: Yes, that's still it. Yeah, that's still I'm not gonna

728
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: say it doesn't.

729
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 3: And that is what Grimes is talking about.

730
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: She's always loved football, and she was talking about football,

731
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: and I actually feel like with like, yeah, I'm thinking

732
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,959
Speaker 1: of like swimming and stuff you have to like care

733
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: more about.

734
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: Well, there are more dance based either, more dab. That's

735
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: what it is, is that it's a spectrum from It's

736
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 2: like the two poles are individual versus team, dance based

737
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: versus war based. Yeah, those are the x act Wait.

738
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: That's that actually really is basketball feels dance based?

739
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: I think basketball is actually the exact center.

740
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 4: Wow.

741
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: I sort of think basketball is a sport that to

742
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: me is like right in the middle of the Kinsey scale.

743
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 2: I actually think as a gay person, I don't feel

744
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: alienated by basketball. I can go to a basketball I think,

745
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: I think, And I also think as a straight person,

746
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: you don't feel gay for like like it is clearly true,

747
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: you know, acceptable to like it as a strapers and

748
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: acceptable like as a gay person. I can't think of

749
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: another sport like that.

750
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 3: It's also like the body on display in basketball too,

751
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 3: Like you can fully see their face, you can fully

752
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: see their arms, Like there's enough like scantily.

753
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: Clads in it. Well, it's like.

754
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is like mask but also very gay, exactly the.

755
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: Same with like old in the olden days short shorts

756
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: but also gay. Yeah, I feel like basketball stars when

757
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: they cross over like a Michael Jordan type. There's something

758
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 2: where they're not Democratic Republic and they're just like a

759
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 2: symbol of perseverance in American culture.

760
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: They're sort of the good that you were talking talk

761
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 1: he came out up top.

762
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. They're the opposite of putin. Yes, Michael Jordan is.

763
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, or like.

764
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: Blake Griffin being on Broad City, like he could not

765
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: have done that if he was a football player. Yeah, no,

766
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: one right in with no.

767
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: Actually, and they're trying to do it like Travis Kelce

768
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 1: not gonna work. I always still feel like, but what's

769
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: the deep dark like underbelly of this guy.

770
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you can't be a football player and be

771
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: non partisan. Travis is the one dating Taylor, Yeah I

772
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: think so.

773
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, you know they dug up his old tweets

774
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 3: and they were perfectly squeaky.

775
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 2: No, he is sort of like a classic like like

776
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: liberal white dude, like sort of like posting the right

777
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 2: things online and everything.

778
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: Like in twenty and ten he was like I love

779
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: justin Timberland exactly exactly. Yeah, like there was nothing really crazy. Yeah, okay,

780
00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 3: I like the dance versus war Actually, yes, because wrestling

781
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 3: is really interesting because I feel like it's.

782
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 2: I almost so many quadrants totally.

783
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: I would have to put it more in war.

784
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: In warror things. But it's so dance. It's so dance.

785
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: It's Boutraville because with what Bauville is a clar dni

786
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 2: movie about someone doing military exercises that are very dance

787
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: based and we're choreographed. That's funny because in my head

788
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: I was like, bautravail. I never said it out loud before,

789
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: but no, that's yeah, that's wrestling.

790
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: Yeah that is I mean boxing is much more dance.

791
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: Oh, I think boxing is more war. There's so much.

792
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: It's so much more violent, Like there's like blood, but you're.

793
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: Literally doing like footwork, You're like on your toes and sort.

794
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: Of yeah, but with wrestling you're doing literally the hung

795
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: up video.

796
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry. None of you saw the Billy Elliott

797
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: film right that was called Yeah, yeah.

798
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm shocked that this is something that was important in

799
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 2: your childhood. But go on, well he is a boxer,

800
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: boxer and then ballet, oh, ballet, and well wouldn't that

801
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: sort of imply that those are opposites. He's being forced

802
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: into something.

803
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: Because the boxwork is.

804
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: Bal right right dance and I mean listen, you could

805
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: argue and potentially this is uh one of the problems

806
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: in our culture that war is actually very dance based.

807
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, so the binary doesn't make sense, the axis

808
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense.

809
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: Well, uh, or it's more like straight culture is better

810
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: than appropriating gay culture than gay cultures that are appropriating straight

811
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: culture because dance is not war based. Wow, And you

812
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,959
Speaker 2: can sit with that for as long as.

813
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: That was high level queer theory, I really need to

814
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 3: like chew on that for a little.

815
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting. That's kind of like a very interesting thesis.

816
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 2: Okay.

817
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: The thing is that I have I've done like a

818
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 3: little MMA, I've done like a little moy Thai, a

819
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 3: little BJJ, and the thing is exciting.

820
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, well don't.

821
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 2: That's a blow job job.

822
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're kind of like doing it. But it's

823
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 3: like you clock and clock out. It's not like a

824
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 3: passion project. Sure you have to do a W nine

825
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 3: and everything. Yeah, No, it's like up until you're actually

826
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 3: fighting for real, for real, you are just dancing and

827
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: it is just one choreo and like you go to

828
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: a place and they're like, do the four combo and

829
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: you're like doing specific us and everything, and it's like

830
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:42,479
Speaker 3: it is extremely dance coded. It's training and enough. Yeah

831
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: the movie.

832
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: Enough, the movie enough, I've never seen it. Well you

833
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: better check it out. Okay, I'm sold.

834
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: That's it.

835
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 3: That's it. They need to start including that in trailers,

836
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: I think, specifically.

837
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 2: Forgetting which which hair styles? Yeah, do they have the movie?

838
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 1: I mean I actually think with AI like the way

839
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: that ads are already like, oh you're a gay guy.

840
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: Now every ad you see will have gay guys in it.

841
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

842
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: Now, it's like they should start doing that more.

843
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

844
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I need movies where Nicole Kidman is ginger.

845
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 3: I need I need the natural to naturally.

846
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: You know, it made such a big impact hair wise.

847
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: Is the movie Atomic Blonde, which I've never seen. I

848
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: don't think I will ever see, but I'm like, I'm

849
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: picturing it and it's exactly what it sounds like.

850
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: I love that movie.

851
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: He's an atomic blonde and she uses it and she

852
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: uses it for a spy.

853
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, Okay, I wanted to address the

854
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: binary of like contact worts versus non contact warts, where

855
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: you take a contact sport and make it non contact

856
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: like flag football, hm, because I remember football never ever

857
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: spoke to me. I found it terrifying. No, mostly you

858
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: know what it was. Actually it seem like there was

859
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: like a high bar of entry with whereas where gear

860
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: is concerned, where I was like, I'm just gonna be

861
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: in the locker room. They're gonna hand me like a

862
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: bucket of stuff and be like, see on.

863
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 3: The field, did you ever play lacrosse? No, you strike

864
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: me as someone you are, so you are very lacrosse coated.

865
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: Like you with like floppy blonde hair, like doing that

866
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: like for everyone to see you just exactly, that's like

867
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: waiting to go somewhere. The lacrosse wrist actually just like

868
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: walking around doing the wrist thing with your lacrostic and

869
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: then it's like you're sort of practicing doing it while

870
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 2: you're walking around school.

871
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: It was always such a mystery. It's also a very

872
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: Midwestern thing.

873
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's mid Western, and it's like sothern.

874
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: But it's also am I wrong to say that? It's

875
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 2: also sort of like northeast West CONNECTICU. Yeah, yeah, I

876
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 2: guess it's just white.

877
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah East. Do they do it in California?

878
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll I don't think they do. Okay, yeah,

879
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 2: don't write.

880
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: In I'm going to bring it to California. I'll be

881
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: the first person to do it.

882
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: There, you should.

883
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: I actually did. One time. I was at a meeting

884
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: that involved my agent was there, Okay, get ready, and

885
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: the person who was at the other person was like

886
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: really into lacrosse. An agent was like, well, Sam, you

887
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: grew up playing lacrosse, and I'd be like, no, I didn't, like.

888
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: I'm not alone, You're not alone in this.

889
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: Okay, I've never talked of I don't do. I've never

890
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: touched the lacrossetic in my life.

891
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: What sport did you play?

892
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: I was cross country, swimming, track, and some like some tennis.

893
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 2: I mean you're literally all of the gas into lacrosse

894
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: kind of.

895
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 3: But yeah, you were just like collecting all the gay

896
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: infinity stones of high school sports.

897
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean talking about non team based sports. I

898
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 2: mean I and dance based, non team based, anything.

899
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: That like required hitting at all.

900
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm no, I know too, I could

901
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: barely play soccer. Yeah, come towards me.

902
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: And I'd say, because I was also like, I like

903
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: being athletic, I like working out.

904
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 2: And that's where you're losing me.

905
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: But I don't need it to be like aggressive in

906
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: this way. Sure, I preferred to be a little more

907
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: meditative and that still stands today. Okay, Yeah, I went to.

908
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: A football camp once, and you play football. No, I

909
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: just went to a camp. It was like, it was

910
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: like a one day thing. And I remember tackling being

911
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,879
Speaker 3: like I love this. And then I got tackled once

912
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm never doing this again. I'm

913
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 3: never doing this again. Wow, I was over it.

914
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, but it had nothing to do with late

915
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: and homosexuality. You just didn't like being hurt. No, I

916
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: didn't like being hurt.

917
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: No, but the pain is part of it, and I

918
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: want to That's the other thing is I actually feel like,

919
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm wrong, I actually feel like this is

920
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: also sounds homphobic. I feel like straight guys are more

921
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: comfortable being hurt. At least that's how I felt as

922
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 1: a kid, where I was like, well, I don't want

923
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: to be hurt, but they're all fine with it.

924
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Well it's a It is actually sort of

925
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: a form of intimacy. Sure, in the same way that

926
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: like a sort of feminine version of that is being

927
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: liking being hurt emotionally, like being like part of a

928
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: relationship is sort of like testing each other's emotional boundaries

929
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: to see what we can handle. I'm straight, man, Yeah,

930
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: it's like hit me until I pass out.

931
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: That's so real. Actually, like the amount of times in

932
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: college like that guy at the party was like no,

933
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: no slap.

934
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, totally that.

935
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 3: I've always been like, get it out, man, I mean

936
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: jackass stomach, yeah, Jackass. I'm so like, I'm mad that

937
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 3: no one has really contextualized that in like like homo

938
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 3: social bonding kind of.

939
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: It's a tough.

940
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, there have been some articles, but yeah, there needs

941
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: to be something more academic.

942
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: It's when the Jackass movie came out. I feel like

943
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 2: there was such an uptick in writing about it, right,

944
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm stone getting what I need

945
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: out of this criticism.

946
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we need more, we need more.

947
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, like did you book a hotel and then oh

948
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 3: there's only one bed? So I guess Steve O and

949
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 3: Chris got a the same bed together, and then yeah,

950
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: what happened when I really just want fan fake? I

951
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 3: think fan fake really?

952
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: Ultimately, did they have they had a first woman in

953
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: that Jackass movie, but they've ever had a gay guy

954
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: that would actually be a revolutionary.

955
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: Okay, that's the other thing. Yeah, I love what the

956
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 3: presence of a gay man does two environments like that,

957
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: because it is like it really does feel like a

958
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 3: bullet in a chamber when you're playing Russian roulette.

959
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's not.

960
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: All fun, like someone someone could discharge, like someone something.

961
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: Could go off.

962
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: Like there's actual like potency to it where I don't know,

963
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 3: and like with context sports and everything, like the level

964
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 3: of homo eroticism that you can get away with. Yeah,

965
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: when everyone is under the impression that like it, it's

966
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 3: almost like everyone is trying to run away from that.

967
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 3: But when someone is like, no, do it, I'm not

968
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: scared of it, then it becomes the most dangerous thing

969
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 3: in the room.

970
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 2: It's almost like it depends on the entire rules, depend

971
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 2: on the assumption that no one is gay, yeah, and

972
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 2: that no one is enjoying and that no one is yeah. Yeah.

973
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 2: But then it's crazy because it's like, but you're enjoying it.

974
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: You're all enjoying it.

975
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're all enjoying this, So like, what's up? Because

976
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 3: I don't want to get hit I don't, but you

977
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: guys love getting hit. You come back time and time again.

978
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: I mean, is it an advantage to be a game

979
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: in a context for because then straight men are don't

980
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: want to come into contact with you as much.

981
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: Actually, I mean I think this is like, this is

982
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: some sort of comedy premise.

983
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: You know where comedy comes from. Truth is it's a

984
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: perfect crime. We need to we need someone to a

985
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: gay guy to infiltrate wrestling.

986
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: I feel like this is so close to like a

987
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: literal Degrassi plot line. Yeah, like where it's like because

988
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: I know there was one point where one character said

989
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: told everyone he was gay so that he didn't have

990
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: to go to a problem with this girl he didn't

991
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: want to. But I also could absolutely see it being

992
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: a plot line that he's like, and I'm gay, so

993
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: don't wrestle me or whatever.

994
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 7: Yeah.

995
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: Well, well I don't know.

996
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: We love silence, No, we do.

997
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 2: It's a feature, not a bug.

998
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, sometimes we're too rigorous, and.

999
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: You know what I'm thinking, I'm having a difficult time

1000
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: sort of like coming up with some of my famous

1001
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: theories for this episode because I feel like, at this point,

1002
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 2: I feel so it has been so long since I've

1003
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: really contemplated a topic like contact sports because it just

1004
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,840
Speaker 2: is not part of my day to day life that

1005
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: I'm truly I was watching the Super Bowl and I

1006
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: legitimately did not know the rules, and I have learned

1007
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: the rules of football at some point in my life,

1008
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: like I do not. I do not remember any like

1009
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 2: it all seems like it ended in the early odds,

1010
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 2: because that's when I was like last paying attention. Do

1011
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: you feel that way or do you feel like it

1012
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 2: is all around you and you are.

1013
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: I mean, it's certainly not all around me. It's not

1014
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: in my life anymore, but it does. It's still around

1015
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: in the world, just not in our bubble.

1016
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: No, No, it certainly is around in the world. But

1017
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: I but I do think the movement away from moniculture

1018
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: just means that I can go about my life not

1019
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: knowing a single athlete.

1020
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think of like like that was.

1021
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: I do remember, like I like this topic so much

1022
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: because that was like a genuinely alienating thing. I remember

1023
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: like being like, Okay, they're all gonna play tackle football

1024
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna sit on the side, and it's like

1025
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what that equivalent is now, Like the

1026
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: closest I have now is like just people talking about football,

1027
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: where which I know this gets specifically into football, but

1028
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: I do find it deeply alienating in a way that

1029
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: is like it's like, is this trauma? What is this?

1030
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: I feel like I did not understand football at all,

1031
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 3: and I would just like glaze over. Samer came up

1032
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: until my brother, who played sports our entire childhood, was

1033
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 3: just explaining that like, even though he doesn't play anymore,

1034
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: he still keeps track because there's like stories in drama

1035
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 3: going on at like all times between like this guy

1036
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 3: got drafted, yeah, on this team, but he's playing his teammates,

1037
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 3: so like there's so much stuff like crackling underneath the surface.

1038
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: But you do need to dedicate like three hours a

1039
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: day of your life to keep up with it.

1040
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 2: And I'm not doing. No, this is what it is.

1041
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: It's sort of like how I don't know. If let's

1042
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: say you're a gay guy that likes the Oscars, you

1043
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 2: can sort of basically participate that in that without watching

1044
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: any of the films. Yeah, yeah, and I am sometimes.

1045
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 2: I was just the barber this morning and I caught

1046
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: you know, Sports Center or whatever was playing, and I

1047
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: was like, this is juicy, Like whatever they're talking about

1048
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: is basically like they're recapping a reality show or spreading.

1049
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 2: But the there's such a barrier to entry because the

1050
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: effort it would take for me to catch up, I'm

1051
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 2: sorry to say, not be worth it.

1052
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 3: But now I know, like, whenever I'm in an environment

1053
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: and there's like a bunch of straight men who are

1054
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 3: watching sports, I'm not like, oh, who's winning, I'm like, so.

1055
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 2: What's his story? Exactly? Where's he from? Our his parents? Still,

1056
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 2: and the fact that your instinct was to say who's

1057
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: winning is almost your bias against the straight by Oh,

1058
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: look at these guys are just watching.

1059
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: No, they're actually really hey, little buddy, who's winning?

1060
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:06,479
Speaker 2: But he has feelings too?

1061
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,760
Speaker 1: That's so true.

1062
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just holds so much for people, Like all

1063
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 3: the contact sports.

1064
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: In the.

1065
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 2: You go tiny question, Yes, do you feel the physical

1066
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: contact and contact sports almost reverberates so much, which is

1067
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 2: why people feel even more passionate about supporting those teams

1068
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: because they're like, they're out on that they are putting

1069
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 2: their lives in danger for me in a way that

1070
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: Roger Federer is not for me. I don't know who.

1071
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: Roger Feeder is a tennis player.

1072
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 3: Okay, what's his story.

1073
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 2: Well, he's sort of he's sort of like the current goat.

1074
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 2: I think people would Okay, let's say, okay, does he

1075
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 2: have long hair? No?

1076
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: He I always imagine a male tennis player with long.

1077
00:50:59,000 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: Hair because of Andreas.

1078
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't even just like the Ai image conjured up.

1079
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Federer is like Swiss. He's very sort of like

1080
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: just very picturesque, like a European man. Okay, barely an athlete,

1081
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: like I think he is meant to be a business person.

1082
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: But he was like, well I'm here, I might as

1083
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: well play tennis.

1084
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 3: Hmm okay, oh he just decided to be the best.

1085
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Wait, did you play any other sports?

1086
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: Growing up? A little sport called theater m oh.

1087
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: I didn't play any sports, so football camp was how

1088
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: did that come about? You were not even playing football.

1089
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 3: So I had cousins that were like really into football,

1090
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 3: and my brother was always into like every single sport.

1091
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 2: At one point he was playing basketball, football, and baseball

1092
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: at the same time.

1093
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 3: And at once, yeah, at once, and I was like

1094
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 3: I kind of just brewed that's my thing. And then uh, oh,

1095
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: I played basketball in middle school and then I got

1096
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 3: like a little knee injury and then I stopped. But

1097
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 3: I never would I was terrible. I made like maybe eight.

1098
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 2: Points over four years, damn.

1099
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 3: And it's not even like I took a lot of

1100
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 3: shots and miss them. I think I'm I had like

1101
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 3: a seventy five percent like success rate.

1102
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 2: I just never shot. Well, you were a minimalist. You

1103
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 2: were like, when it's time, I'll do it right.

1104
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1105
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:25,760
Speaker 2: It was kind of like a ghost.

1106
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 3: Would just be like, yeah, like you know, that wasn't

1107
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 3: That wasn't what I was in it for. That wasn't

1108
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: what I was in it.

1109
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: I actually have thought of this where I'm like, he's

1110
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 2: one of the reasons why I was so bad at

1111
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 2: sports that I'm like more of a minimalist like that.

1112
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's too like I don't I'm not

1113
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 2: going to be constantly aggressing on people like I have

1114
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: to give them their space. I was hot manners.

1115
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: Well, I find that for me, the problem with sports

1116
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 3: and even kind of to this day when I'm playing

1117
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: sports with other people is like I cannot one hundred

1118
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 3: percent go for it, Like yes, there's just no narrative

1119
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 3: that I can tell myself where it's like I need

1120
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 3: to risk harm in order to do this.

1121
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: I just don't have that level of competitiveness. And it's

1122
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: a real peek into your own nature because you're like,

1123
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: damn if I not to project this on to you.

1124
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: But it's like if I can't do that, then what

1125
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: chance that am I missing in my normal nonsports? Like Okay,

1126
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 2: all right, I mean wake that up.

1127
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 3: I feel like for me, it was like it's just

1128
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 3: not that serious. Yeah, Like I know what's serious is

1129
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: and this is not it. Yeah, I don't know what.

1130
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: Did you get competitive about?

1131
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: Honestly, I do get competitive about like word games, like

1132
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: it will go crazy over some scrabble. Yeah, I don't know.

1133
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 3: I feel like like in high school, like growing up,

1134
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,719
Speaker 3: when people be like, let's like play frisbee or something,

1135
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: I'd be.

1136
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 2: Like, can we just talk?

1137
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 3: Can we just like you know, just like shoot the

1138
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: shit like ponder You guys don't ponder. I was very

1139
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: serious about pondering.

1140
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: I feel like very competitive about pondering. You're like, I

1141
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 2: can tell I'm pondering harder than you.

1142
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not pondering enough right now?

1143
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 2: It is true that some people don't ponder enough.

1144
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: No, it's it's really true. It's kind of sad to see.

1145
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 2: I think potentially the government mandated book club could help

1146
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 2: with that as well. Of course, that would give him

1147
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:15,479
Speaker 2: something to be inspired about.

1148
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: Close the pondering gap.

1149
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: Close the pondering gap, yes, exactly. Yeah, wow, well dub

1150
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: any final thoughts on contact sports.

1151
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 3: Wow, I will say I feel like there were no

1152
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 3: moral judgments on contact sports, right, we're just kind of

1153
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 3: like it.

1154
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: I didn't get into the political you know, it's funny

1155
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: with little topics like this is like, you know, contact

1156
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 2: sports so obviously straight, so we're almost like afraid of

1157
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,919
Speaker 2: saying the obvious thing that we are trying so hard

1158
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 2: to find a deeper thing rather than being like, right,

1159
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: football is straight, right yeah, next, but.

1160
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 3: It is also it's homo. It's homo social at the

1161
00:54:58,640 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 3: very least very much.

1162
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1163
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 3: And then I feel like, once you bring pain into

1164
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: this situation, it's erotic immediately.

1165
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, I've never experienced pain without being absolutely

1166
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 2: turned down.

1167
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 3: That's actually how you can go to the hospital more

1168
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 3: than once. Yeah, if you are, you're just like I'm

1169
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 3: in pain, Like, but you don't say what it is.

1170
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 3: You just have to say like pain, that's it, and

1171
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: then you can post as much as you want.

1172
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: Sure, maybe I'll pop in this afternoon. Yeah, I think

1173
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: I've got the health insurance.

1174
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 2: Yeah for one, Like whack your hat on the subway

1175
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 2: ball Okay, that works.

1176
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, have some proof.

1177
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 2: That'll be a great scam to get. Just like free food,

1178
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 2: just like constantly hurt yourself go to the hospital for

1179
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: lunch a thirty thousand dollars every single.

1180
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: Day beats doing the dishes.

1181
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 2: Should we do our final segment?

1182
00:55:51,480 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we should chibuki. Our final segment is

1183
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: called shout Outs, and in this segment we pay himash

1184
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: to the Grand Street tradition of the radio shout out. Okay,

1185
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: and give a shout out to anything that we enjoy

1186
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: at all people place these things ideas, we'll go first.

1187
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we think of it on the spot. So yeah,

1188
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 2: don't worry about the fact that we're springing on you.

1189
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: And in fact, I'm trying to think. I think I

1190
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 2: have one.

1191
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,280
Speaker 1: Oh, if you have one, please go first.

1192
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 4: Okay.

1193
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 2: What's up everybody back home and all my chosen family

1194
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 2: that I love so much but never see. I want

1195
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 2: to give a shout out to the actor, the British

1196
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: actor Tobias Menzies. Are you familiar.

1197
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: Which one is he?

1198
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 2: Do you know who he is?

1199
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 3: Have you?

1200
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 2: Okay? So he was in that new Nicole Hollip Center

1201
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: movie with Julia Lee Dreyfus. Yeah, you hurt my feelings.

1202
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: He's a husband.

1203
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Yeah.

1204
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: I saw it. I saw him on stage last night

1205
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 2: and a play called The Hunt and he is a

1206
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: little cutie pie and he is so you know, when

1207
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: you see a British theater actor just finally do theater

1208
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 2: acting after being forced to be in like Game of

1209
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: Thrones for sixteen years, you just feel so happy for

1210
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: them because it really that's all they want to do

1211
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 2: is to make negative money while emoting on stage. And

1212
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 2: he really killed it. I have to say, I was

1213
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 2: so proud of him. He has the most adorable little dimples.

1214
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: I said, talk about a tall man who has been

1215
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: able to kind of make it. I am so proud

1216
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 2: of him. And you know, if you're in New York,

1217
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 2: go see The Hunt at st Ane's Warehouse and shoutouts

1218
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 2: of device Menzi's and shout out to sort of unknown

1219
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 2: British theater actors that prop up everyone else in the industry.

1220
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 2: Without them, we would all be nothing.

1221
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: Yes, thank god, uck, okay, I have one.

1222
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 2: All right?

1223
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: What's up everyone in America and abroad. I want to

1224
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: give a huge shout out to guess what stand up comedy?

1225
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 1: That's right. I'm in New York City and I have

1226
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: been doing shows and it is so much fun. People

1227
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: forget when you're in LA it's not the same. Even

1228
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: if you do a show, you're like, that's fine, and here,

1229
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: oh my god, you feel alive. And I say, now,

1230
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: this is fun. Now this is comedy. And you see

1231
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 1: all these people who are way younger than you, and

1232
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: you say, retrow better get more successful quick. But even

1233
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: despite that, it is such a treat. And you know that.

1234
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: I know. It's like you're always like I'm never I'm

1235
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: never gonna have a good idea again, and then one

1236
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: day you do. Oh my god, there's no better feeling.

1237
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: I love stand up comedy. I love Union Hall in Brooklyn,

1238
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: New York, and I love various Bura Clynn bar shows.

1239
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: Xoxo Sam Wow love that.

1240
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 2: What's up everybody? This is Jabooki on the mic.

1241
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 3: I just want to like give a nice little shout

1242
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 3: out to, you know, all the people back home. I

1243
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 3: want to give this shout out to all the people

1244
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 3: who are not at home and I maybe haven't met

1245
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 3: yet and will one day consider part of my home

1246
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 3: back there. I want to shout out tiny desks. I

1247
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: want to shout out it's just so fun getting to

1248
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 3: see these musicians in their element, you know, just like

1249
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 3: having a fun having having a blast and having a

1250
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 3: fun time. I love music. I love when people make

1251
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 3: sounds with a bunch of instruments. Isn't that the best?

1252
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 3: That's so much fun. And I watched Kalala's on the

1253
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: way here, and.

1254
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: Kalala's was very good. I got chills multiple times. You're

1255
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: just waves and waves of chills.

1256
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 3: And I also want to give a shout out to MPR.

1257
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: There is an attack on journalism, so I'm enjoying them

1258
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 3: while I can and uh, happy final days MPR.

1259
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 2: You know, watching watching Tiny Desk counts of supporting independent journalism,

1260
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: and people don't.

1261
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I actually have the same response to watching

1262
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 1: tiny deess as they do to like reading an article

1263
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh my god, I'm going to do this,

1264
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: and then I get like two minutes in and I'm like, oh,

1265
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: I have to do something else now, and I never

1266
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: ever finished.

1267
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 2: It because it is visual. Yeah, I just put it

1268
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: on like I do need to see them, and it's.

1269
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: Like just long enough. It's like fifteen minutes and you're

1270
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: like you're so in for two minutes and then it's

1271
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: like this feels like I'm wasting because I'm not watching

1272
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: a TV show but right right.

1273
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 3: Like I'm not getting a lot of information from you,

1274
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 3: just like wow, cool.

1275
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is something.

1276
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 2: Sort of anticlimactic where you're like, well, they're still at

1277
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: the desk. It hasn't like it's not like an Okay

1278
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: Go video where it seems out and you're like in

1279
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: a bigger space.

1280
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want how.

1281
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 2: Much longer can we milk this? Really?

1282
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: Like, if we're being honest, NBR, if you want to

1283
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: stay alive a few more years, make call Okay going consultant.

1284
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,919
Speaker 2: Because guess what I have to say, A tiny desk

1285
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: to me is almost a little like Obama era of

1286
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 2: like the tweeness. I'm like, how about we go big now?

1287
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: How about big?

1288
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: Right?

1289
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: Right? Because we actually, yeah, like we need some hutspah

1290
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: and some courage in this country, and we need artists

1291
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 2: to not make themselves small and be at a tiny desk.

1292
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 2: We need them to be at a giant desk.

1293
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I love the jookie was like, this is

1294
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: something I really like and we're all like we.

1295
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 7: Should fucking cringe.

1296
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 3: Twenty twelve as Obama first term Obama era, corny ass bitch, Like,

1297
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: gag me.

1298
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 2: There is something about a tiny desk where I'm like,

1299
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: two Yards.

1300
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so true.

1301
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 2: But I'm so true. Every tiny desk is like what

1302
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: if Kalala was Ard. It's what if each artist was

1303
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: Juniyards for just fifteen minutes.

1304
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: Wow, that is really apt. Yeah.

1305
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 3: I've been hearing a lot of two Yards and like

1306
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 3: placements and commercials.

1307
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jen Yards has actually done the thing that like,

1308
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: you know people do when they go corporate or like

1309
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 2: it's like a comedium becoming copyright. Like two Yards has

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Speaker 2: now become like the official on track four things rather

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Speaker 2: than being an artist that releases music like two Yards

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Speaker 2: did the music for the New York Radio Hour, So

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Speaker 2: every time you listen to the New York Radio Hour,

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Speaker 2: it says like music by Meryl Garbage from two Yards,

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Speaker 2: you know, whatever you're referring to, which I'm presumably that that.

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Speaker 3: Feels like about yeah, yeah, what I'm referring to.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, it's a cautionary tale.

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Speaker 1: Or it's a success story of someone you know, recognizing

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Speaker 1: what they want in this world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I agree, And I have nothing against

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Speaker 2: two yards.

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Speaker 1: Oh why would I have something against two yards? That

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Speaker 1: would be insane?

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Speaker 2: No, I love Oh it's you fucking bitch.

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Speaker 7: Blonde white woman, all right, go oh my god.

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Speaker 3: But I do think it's funny though, because of the

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Speaker 3: ad that I'm specifically referring to, Like, all the songs

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Speaker 3: are about like hegemony and colonial but they just stripped

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Speaker 3: it down to that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it's like when you remove it from the context

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Speaker 3: and it's like, all right, the hook that was making

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Speaker 3: me be like okay, I guess is now gone and it.

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Speaker 2: Is just yeah, yeah, it's like a cup song with

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Speaker 2: like yeah, with like vocal boards stuff.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe what bitches you all are.

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Speaker 2: Listen. Meryl Garbage is a huge part of my life.

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Speaker 2: One time I went to a free June Yard show

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Speaker 2: in San Francisco and I said, I am twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Now I was streaming, Yeah, I was streaming.

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Speaker 1: I was streaming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I never

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Speaker 1: downloaded illegally, probably at that age.

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Speaker 2: Well that's why she now has to do the music

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Speaker 2: for the New York Radio And it was your fault, MARYL. Garbus,

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Speaker 2: dropped the venmo. We owe you so much. I demand

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Speaker 2: the kalala Venmo. MARYL. Garbus.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yeah, all right. Well Droogie has been a

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Speaker 1: real pleasure. Thank you for having me, Thanks for doing it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: bye bye podcast and now want more?

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