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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. This episode number one seventy six,

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Speaker 1: and today we've got another rut radio episode in which

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Speaker 1: we're getting updates from hunters across the country about current

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Speaker 1: dear behavior and activity conditions and the tactics that are

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Speaker 1: working right now. And we also have a bonus follow

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Speaker 1: up interview with Don Higgins, who earlier this year on

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Speaker 1: the podcast told us he was going to kill a

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Speaker 1: buck and now he's done it. All right. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another episode of the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by sit gear, and we're back here today with

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Speaker 1: another one of our radio episodes, which we're doing every

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Speaker 1: week throughout the hunting season. And as you likely know,

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Speaker 1: each week during the radio episode, we are checking with

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Speaker 1: a handful of hunters from across the country to get

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Speaker 1: real time updates on what's happening right now. So what

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Speaker 1: kind of dear behavior, what kind of conditions, how are

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Speaker 1: these things impacting dear behavior? Um, all that kind of

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Speaker 1: good stuff. And then we're also talking to people about

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, what are you trying now? What's working,

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Speaker 1: what's not, etcetera, etcetera. So that's what we've been doing

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Speaker 1: so far for the last i don't know, for four

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Speaker 1: or five weeks or something like that. And now, at

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Speaker 1: least in my mind, it's getting even more exciting because

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Speaker 1: start kind of showing up here in the coming days

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Speaker 1: as we're heading into that pre rut time period. Um,

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Speaker 1: I know I'm getting a little bit, uh, a little

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Speaker 1: bit pumped up and excited. I gotta believe the bucks

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Speaker 1: are slowly getting a little more pumped up and excited.

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Speaker 1: Um what about you, Spencer? Are you there too? I

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Speaker 1: am there? And like you said, with the bucks, I

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Speaker 1: think the best evidence was my trail cameras this last week.

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Speaker 1: Um oh yeah, started having a little bit of buck

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Speaker 1: activity on some scrapes on like the seventh, eighth, ninth,

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Speaker 1: a sudden, it was seven different books on those three

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Speaker 1: Over the weekend kind of and same thing. There's been

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Speaker 1: of a lot of new scrapes popping up as I

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Speaker 1: seeing rubs out there in the whole nine yards and

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Speaker 1: even UM, I've been hunting public land over the last

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Speaker 1: exciting exciting thing to see. And I think the best

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Speaker 1: the best is still ahead of us. So UM, I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to hear what people are saying around the country though,

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Speaker 1: I'm interested to see if if what I've been kind

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Speaker 1: usually to try to get from you at the Spencer, UM,

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Speaker 1: I just want to note that for anyone listening, if

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Speaker 1: you're not already aware, we are gonna have a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a different episode today because we're gonna throw

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Speaker 1: in a little bonus story. Um, if you're if you'll

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Speaker 1: allow me, Spencer, since since you are the man in

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Speaker 1: control of the show here, if you'll allow me, I

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Speaker 1: want to toss in a bonus story from Don Higgins.

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Speaker 1: Will you allow that? I will because I loved listening

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Speaker 1: exactly so. So for those who have listened to the

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Speaker 1: from Real Tree in Indiana. Awesome it was there. Since

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Speaker 1: you've listened to all these people, is there any common

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Speaker 1: and you know, the rut is going to rule. All Yeah,

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Speaker 1: many interview here because don you you've had some You've

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Speaker 1: got some good news to share, don't you. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: But but Smokey, Smokey, it's a dent because he's on

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Speaker 1: leading up to the final successful kill, well, I had

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Speaker 1: for the first ten days of season, so I wasn't

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Speaker 1: and volunteered to come and and film anytime I was

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Speaker 1: thirteen out of fourteen days in a row he was

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00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 1: in the same location within a half an hour. UM.

431
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 1: So I wasn't able to hunt on opening day. I

432
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: had a friend that was getting married that day. But

433
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: on the second day I was able to go out

434
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: to the tree stand. Um and I actually had a

435
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: dough and a faun bust me. I don't know if

436
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: they caught wind of me or what the deal was,

437
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: but they took off, and I thought the whole night

438
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: was ruined. Um. About seven o'clock at night, this buck

439
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: ended up coming up by himself. He was speeding. He's

440
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: being along the side of our court or the soy

441
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 1: bean field and he was fifty yards away and I've

442
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: been practicing at that distance and beyond, and I thought

443
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: that was the only chance that I get, So I

444
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: took the shot and there was a perfect double long shot. Yeah,

445
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 1: run too far, and that was it for my season.

446
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: It was opening weekend of archery season, and like I said,

447
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: that's something I wanted to do every year but definitely

448
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: doesn't pan out that way. So it's pretty cool having

449
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: to work out in my favor on that On that

450
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 1: particular book on Brandon's hunt, he was wearing sick his

451
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452
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453
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Speaker 1: and joining us on the podcast first is Kyle Bennett

455
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Speaker 1: with q d M A out of Mississippi. Now, Kyle

456
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: in Mississippi, what would you say the buck activity has

457
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: been lately on a scale of one to ten? All right, now,

458
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 1: think well at about a six for the year at

459
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: this point in the season in October, we're still in

460
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,239
Speaker 1: uh In in an early season type tattern um. We

461
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: are still seeing a little bit of buck movement, especially

462
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: in the late evenings on on food sources, and uh

463
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: in the mornings also if you can catch them between

464
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: the bed and food. So, if you are on that

465
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: early season patron right now, how far off of like

466
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: pre rut do you think you guys are? Well, we're

467
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 1: kind of in a unique situation in the part of Mississippi.

468
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: I hunt in southwest Mississippi where our rut is between

469
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: Christmas Day and the years every year, so our pre

470
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: rut typically doesn't kick in until November time frame, um,

471
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: early to mid November. So for us, most of October

472
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: and early novemborough's all in uh pre rut type situation.

473
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,880
Speaker 1: Uh that puts us probably still three or four weeks

474
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: from from good pre road activity. Well for this next

475
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 1: month or so. Then, while you're in those early season patterns,

476
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: what does a typical set up look like for you guys? Right,

477
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: We're typically in the evenings where you're still gonna hunt

478
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 1: food sources of these are typically green food plots, hunt

479
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: a lot of native food sources of white oaks and

480
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: red oaks that dropped during the various times on a

481
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of native per semon, a lot of native honey locusts,

482
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,679
Speaker 1: all those food sources are great places to catch bucks

483
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: this time of year, in the mornings, we're typically hunting

484
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: travel routes between bed and food. If you can get

485
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: a few hundreds youngers off of a big destination tout

486
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: food source, especially somewhere joking to some real thick covers,

487
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: you can catch the bucks coming back from bed and

488
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: have pretty good success during that for this next month.

489
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: Then while you're in those early season patterns, what are

490
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: you doing for your trail cameras as well? So my

491
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: trail cames right now. I'll recently just pulled off of

492
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: all my summer type patterns, which I generally have them

493
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: on mineral sites and and protein feeder sites. I just

494
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: pulled all of those off in the summer. That's where

495
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: I uh take inventory of all my deer and move

496
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: them all to travel routes and food sources. To travel

497
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: routes are between bed and food, typically close to the

498
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: food source. If I can find an area where the

499
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: deer typically enter a food source, that's a great way

500
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: to a great area to place a camera and also

501
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: directly on the food sources. Um that way I can

502
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: get a good idea of at what time they are

503
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: hitting the food source and also helps me to take

504
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: stock in which bucks are entering the fields, witch bugs

505
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: are entering which fields at what time and where? Well,

506
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: is it too late then for bachelor groups? Are you

507
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: still seeing some bucks grouped up then at this point right,

508
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: because of our later n scheduled in other parts of

509
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: the country this time of year, we typically do still

510
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: have bachelor groups. Uh. In fact, I just saw a

511
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: bachelor group over the weekend. Well, going forward then in

512
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: this next week or so, what do you think the

513
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: buck activity is going to be on a scale of

514
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: one to tend In Mississippi, we actually just got a

515
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: really huge co front this time of year, So how

516
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: would bumped the activity, especially in the evenings up to

517
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: at least of seven and a half maybe in eight

518
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: the temperatures dropped probably ten to fifteen degrees off of

519
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: the average at tempts that it has been the past

520
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. All right, Kyle, Well, good luck with

521
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: those early season bucks and hope to hear from you

522
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: later in the year. Fantastic, thank you and joining us

523
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: on the line. Next is Jake Gregor's A guide for

524
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: Daybreak ranch in South Dakota. Now, Jake in South Dakota,

525
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: what would you say the deer activity has been lately

526
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: on the scale of one to ten, I would say

527
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: it's somewhere around uh five or six, with some days

528
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: uh maybe up around eight or nine even And so

529
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: what has been making some of those days better than

530
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 1: the others? Well, going back about a week ago, um,

531
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: four or five days after the full moon, we had

532
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: some fronts come through that um, you know, high pressure

533
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: days and then chiley nights. It got down to seventeen

534
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: right here where we're at one evening, and uh, deer

535
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: work coming out of the woodwork those days. Um. But

536
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: with some warmer weather in and out of those days,

537
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: some days they're just better than others. Well, Jake, living

538
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: in the heart of egg land there, how do you

539
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: think harvest has been affecting deer patterns so far? And

540
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: how do you think it's going to affect your patterns

541
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: going forward? I don't think it's affected much yet. Guys

542
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: are just wrapping up harvesting soybeans right now. I know

543
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: some guys are starting on corn and sunflowers here. So

544
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: in the next week or two there'll be some big changes.

545
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: Deer are really spread out right now, living pretty much well,

546
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: I should say, spending most of their days in those

547
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: standing crops. And once those are harvested, I think it's

548
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: going to really um dictate where the deer spend their time.

549
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: So you're gonna see deer going from these crop fields

550
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: to spending most of their time in farmyards and shelter

551
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: belts and and even you know, big bucks will probably

552
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: even head for these patch weed patches in the middle

553
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: of the open prairie, you know, some wild sunflowers or

554
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: kochcha weed. So um, yeah, there'll be some big changes

555
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: here once these crops start rolling out. Now, are you,

556
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: personally or any of the clients, have they been hunting

557
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: any mornings yet or has it been pretty much strictly

558
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: evenings up until this point. Yeah? Both Actually, uh, typically

559
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: earlier in the year, you'd think you just want to

560
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: hunt evenings. But with the right conditions, and we've had

561
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: some pretty good days for cooler weather, especially in the morning,

562
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: frost on the ground. Um, we got a lot of

563
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: places we can get um kind of in between where

564
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: the deer are making their rounds at night and headed

565
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: back to headed back to cover in the morning, and

566
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: and we can be in the right at the right

567
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: time in the morning to intercept him. So um, deer

568
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: activity has been actually pretty good in the mornings as

569
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: well as the evenings. Um, some of those days when

570
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: it was really chilly, the bucks were moving actually really late,

571
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean thirty nine o'clock in the morning, and some

572
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: of the big bucks were still still visible and making

573
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: their way back to the bed. Now, I know you

574
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: run a number of trail cameras there, and what if

575
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 1: those have been telling you lately, are there's still a

576
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: lot of bucks that are moving, you know, in the

577
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: middle of the night, or have you been getting better

578
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: movement as we've gotten deeper into October. Uh, yeah, they're

579
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: they're moving a lot at night. But they're all Um,

580
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: like I said a little bit ago, they're coming from

581
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: what I gather, they're they're coming out of these crowd

582
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: fields in the evening and they're making their way whatever

583
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: distance up to a few miles two trees wherever there's trees,

584
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, groves, farmyards, and they're they're really starting to

585
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: scrape and rub on everything. So um, I mean there's

586
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: apple trees in the backyard and that's just covered with

587
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: scrapes underneath it. Um, So they're they're doing a lot

588
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: of that at night. But once these these crops come

589
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: out and they're forced to spend more of their time

590
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: closer to the where those scrapes and rubs are, I

591
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: think they'll be doing that, you know, more more killable

592
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 1: times of the day. Well, we're coming up quickly here

593
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: on South Dakota's pheasant open and living in the pheasant

594
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: capital of the world. How do you think that's going

595
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: to change things for you and deer hunting wise? It

596
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 1: always makes it a little tougher. Um. It pushes deer around.

597
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: You know, if you if you have a big deer

598
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: patterned and pheasant hunting goes on anywhere near where he's at,

599
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: it could definitely spoil that for you. Um. On the

600
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: other hand, it can push in deer from neighboring properties

601
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: and and all of a sudden you might have a

602
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: big deer that you you never knew us around and

603
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's he's a deer you're hunting.

604
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: So um, it's good and bad, but it will definitely

605
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: push deer around, and that, along with the harvest getting

606
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: rolling good here in the next week or two, there'll

607
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: be a lot a lot of changes going on, all right, Jake, Well,

608
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: going forward in this next week or so, what do

609
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: you think the Deer ACTVT is going to be on

610
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, Well, I think the

611
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: bucks are getting more and more ramped up every day.

612
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: It looks like we have a few warm days here,

613
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: and then after this weekend, the twenty one, I think

614
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: it starts to cool down, and they extended forecast shows

615
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: every day getting a little cooler from there, I believe, so, Um,

616
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: the hunting should actually get pretty good. The bucks are

617
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: gonna the well deer in general, and the bucks they're

618
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna get kind of pinched down. Right now, they're still

619
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: spending most of their time where they did all summer

620
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: in these standing crowd fields, and they're gonna start getting

621
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: pinched down where where if you're you're hunting any of

622
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: these places that they are rubbing and scraping and spending

623
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: more of their time. Now, Um, you'll be able to

624
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: catch them doing though, you know, those activities maybe morning

625
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: and evening and then also on their way to food

626
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: sources from there. So in my mind they kind of

627
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: do the opposite. They're gonna end up doing the opposite

628
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: of what they're doing now. Now they spend their time

629
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: in the standing crops in the evenings they had for

630
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: for cover and trees and snoop around. And then now

631
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: I think, um, things will kind of reverse and they'll

632
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: spend their time and more those farmyards and cover and

633
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 1: make their way in the evenings to food sources and

634
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: and the bucks will be checking out those as we

635
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: get in the later October here. So going forward in

636
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: the next week or two, I would say that the

637
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: hunting is only gonna get better. It'll probably be probably

638
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: an eight or a nine. All right, Jake, Well, thanks

639
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: for joining me, and good luck to you and your

640
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: clients going forward. Thanks for having me. Take care. Before

641
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: we get to our next call, though, let's pause it,

642
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: thank our sponsors at white Tail Properties. This week with

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644
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: land specialist out of Ohio, and Adam is going to

645
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: be giving us some tips on how to fix target panic. Well,

646
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: those numerous things you can do to get over target panic.

647
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: I mean, at one point or another, I feel like

648
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: just about every archer out there, I struggled with this

649
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form, And you know, I

650
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: think it'd be best just to talk about my experiences. UM.

651
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: You know, I shot competitively for several years on a

652
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: national level, and one thing that helped me and helps

653
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: me to continue to stay ahead of it. UM, you're

654
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: just doing some blank bell shooting. And by that, I mean,

655
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's a simple as hanging a target without

656
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: a face on it, or you may maybe maybe you

657
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: just put a blank face up. Uh. And you're not

658
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: really paying attention to your pins. You're not paying attention

659
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: to where your pins set, You're not even paying attention

660
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: to the movement or anything. The only thing that you're

661
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: trying to do is make a good shot. And by

662
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: that I mean you're not punching the trigger, you're not flinching,

663
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: You're just letting the pin kind of just settle in.

664
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,919
Speaker 1: You're wanting it to steady up. Your relaxed, and you're

665
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: pulling through the shot. You're following through and there's you know,

666
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: it's just one of the numerous things that you can do. UM.

667
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: And I typically do that with a back tension release. UM.

668
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: You know, over the past couple of years, I have

669
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 1: began shooting with the wristtrap release while hunting. UM. But occasionally.

670
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: I still uh, I still use a back tension as well,

671
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: but again just just also something that helps me is

672
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: switching back and forth between releases. You know, shoot a

673
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: restract for a while, she thumb button for a while,

674
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: she's a restract for a while, and it helps me

675
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: to kind of stay ahead of it. If you'd like

676
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: to learn more and to see the properties that Adam

677
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: currently has listed for sale, visit white tail properties dot com.

678
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: Backslash Hayden that's h A Y D E N alright

679
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: and joining me on the line next is Nick Kravitz

680
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania with flat Line White Tails. Now, Nick, in

681
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: your state of Pennsylvania, what would you say the buck

682
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten,

683
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say probably a six at the moment, and

684
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: possibly seven. And the reason I would say that would

685
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: be is because recently we had a cold front come

686
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: in on the sixteenth, and I think that just increased

687
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: the buck activity. Well, for those of you who don't

688
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: follow flat Line White Tails, go and check them out,

689
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: because three people on Nick's team, including Nick, just tagged

690
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: out on some awesome bucks. So I'm surprised to hear

691
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: you a nick that it's only a six or seven,

692
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: But what did those setups look like for you guys

693
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: to take three bucks on the evening of October six, Well,

694
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: we actually had two similar setups. Myself and actually my

695
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: brother was the other one that shot a buck. We

696
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: were both hunting corn fields and Um, Brooke Williams our neighbor,

697
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: she was actually hunting in Oak Ridge, And that's pretty

698
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: much what sealed the deal for us. They were up

699
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: on their feet early in daylight hours and they were

700
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: just sitting the food sources man, and those food sources, Um,

701
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's diverse as corn and acorns right now.

702
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: Where they were mostly focused on acorns, Well, where Tyler

703
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: and I were hunting, um, it's kind of like there's

704
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: only corn, and where Brooke was hunting, there's a lot

705
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: of acorns. She's hunting more of like a mountain buck,

706
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: and Tyler and I were hunting more of, uh, like

707
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 1: a fireland agricultural buck. And so you don't think had

708
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: you not had that cold front, that you'd have seen

709
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: those dear. Um, Judging by the way it's been the

710
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: past couple of weeks, it's been super warm, and I

711
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: really think like and I'm talking like seventies eighties. It's

712
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: been miserable, sweating to get to your tree stand. Almost

713
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: not even worth going out, I mean, because you're just

714
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: gonna be pressuring your stands. And the fact that this

715
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: cold front rolled in and it dropped down into like

716
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: almost freezing temperatures, um, was just the ticket. I'm sold

717
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: on it. I mean, there's living proof of it. Speaking

718
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: of that buck, what is your history with him? Did

719
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: you know this dear was around or have you seen

720
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: him in the past. Actually, it's a funny story about that.

721
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: After Tyler and I approached this deer and we realized,

722
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: you know what I had done, and we gave it

723
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: a good look, we kind of looked at each other

724
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: and said, you know what, that's actually a buck we

725
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: called Slingshot. From a couple of years ago, um, two

726
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: or three years ago, we had got pictures of him

727
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: as a two and a half year old, and then

728
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: the next year we had pictures of him on the

729
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 1: trail camera as a three and a half year old,

730
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: and then he disappeared the last couple of years and

731
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: then we hadn't even seen him on camera. And I

732
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: went in there actually the night before to hunt a

733
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: different buck, and sure enough, this slingshot came out, came

734
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: out of the blue. I don't know where he was. Well,

735
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: are you seeing much yet for pre rod sign as

736
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: far as scrapes, robs, or any chasing. We do notice

737
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: they seemed to be running their scrapes and checking them,

738
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: and definitely this cold front had them up on their feet,

739
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: and I think they were checking their scrapes a little

740
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: more in the daylight hours. And we're seeing, you know,

741
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: quite a few rubs. I mean, there were some nice

742
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 1: rubs around where I killed my buck, And it's just

743
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: it seems like things are starting to turn on a

744
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: little bit. But I mean, we still got a couple

745
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: of weeks till it's really money time. So all three

746
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: of you with flat line white tails that were hunting,

747
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: you guys were all hunting evening setups. Have you been

748
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: hunting any mornings yet? Up until this point. I did

749
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: hunt a couple of mornings. Um, I didn't have the

750
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: sightings that I would have liked to see. I mean,

751
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: most people aren't hunting mornings that much in the early season,

752
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: but I like to get out a few times here

753
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: and there due to my work schedule. But yes, we

754
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: were all three of us hunting evening sets, and it

755
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: seems like the evening sets have been the tickets so

756
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: far this year. All right, we're going forward, Nick, in

757
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: this next week or so, what do you think the

758
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: buck activity is going to be on a scale of

759
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: one to tend in Pennsylvania? I would say it's probably

760
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: going to stick around the same, if not drop a

761
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 1: couple because I did here. I mean, it's gonna get

762
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: a little bit warmer again, and uh, I just think

763
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: that's going to deter them a little bit. But I

764
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: think it's gonna probably remain around a six or seven

765
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: for the next couple of days. All Right, Well, thanks

766
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: for joining me, Nick, and congratsating us and buck Thanks man,

767
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. It's an honor, you know, God

768
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: is good. Alright, And joining me on the line. Next

769
00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: is Josh McDaniel of Indiana with real treaty. Now, John

770
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: in Indiana, what would you say the bucket activity has

771
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: been lately on a scale of one to ten, I'm

772
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: looking at probably about a four out of ten right now.

773
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's pretty slow here. We just come out

774
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: of a nice little front that that's kind of that

775
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: last little front. I feel like of the the early

776
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: season that if you needed to get on one to

777
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: get on him, then it looks like it's gonna warm

778
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: back up on us a little bit. So it's just, uh,

779
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: they're tough right now. It's um, dear, movement's pretty slow.

780
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: It's uh, we got a mask. We've got a bumper

781
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: crop on acorns right now, so they're pretty much lay

782
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: in her food all day. They don't really have a

783
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: need to get up super early. And of course it's

784
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 1: not been quite cold enough, so right now at this moment,

785
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty slow, man, it's not really good. Well,

786
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: those hunters who are finding success, what kind of tactics

787
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: are they using right now? So right now, you know,

788
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: we had pretty good luck last week on that first

789
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: little little front of the early season. There. Uh, if

790
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: you're in on tight on food, if you got a

791
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: nice little cutaway killed plots somewhere that's half acre three,

792
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: you know, an acre somewhere that you're right on their

793
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 1: bed where they're not going far. You know they're you're

794
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 1: getting a lot of good daylight pictures morning and evening

795
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: where you know you're right there. Um, those guys are

796
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 1: doing pretty good probably if if that bucks um showing

797
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,439
Speaker 1: any kind of daylight activity at all, or if he's

798
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: sewing up right, you know, last light, our first light

799
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: in the morning and last light and the evening and

800
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: you get a little cold front and those bucks right

801
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: now are a lot of guys are shooting, but they're

802
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: far in a few between right now. I mean there's

803
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: you got fifteen target bucks or after you know, two

804
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: of them might be showing anything like that. UM. And

805
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: I just said, we just just kind of come out

806
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: of that this last little front. It's gonna start warming

807
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: back up on us. So it's definitely slowing down right

808
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: for what I call the wall period there. So it

809
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: sounds like, Josh that you have just not been very

810
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: aggressive at all unless you get the right weather. Is

811
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: that correct? That's correct. Yeah, we've we got a little

812
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 1: aggressed of this last week. We killed a nice half

813
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: RealD buck we've been after yuh, but it was it

814
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: was a perfect scenario, like when we have the perfect storm.

815
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: I don't mind get a little addressed that we had

816
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: been waiting on a north wind and we put in

817
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: this kill plot. But I don't don't know, three quarters

818
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: an acre size and I have a two acre lake

819
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: for a long lake that kind of comes up to it,

820
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: and we literally got on the boat the south end

821
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: of it and just pader and went all the way

822
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: up to the plot almost we literally have like thirty

823
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: yards and then we're in the set and sounding like

824
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: a little boats when we come up out of the

825
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: out of the lake and uh, we're in our set.

826
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: So that that was about the most aggressive. Like for

827
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: the most part, we're stopping on edges, and like I said,

828
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: with these these acorns like they are, it's hard to

829
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: dive off in there without disturbing much. So we kind

830
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: of had to sit back and serve. And we've just

831
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: not had much luck. Everything's a lot of dose, a

832
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: lot of little bucks, but um but some of the

833
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: scrapes and rubbs trying to pop up like typical, you know,

834
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: but nothing nothing real aggressive yet for sure. Well, you

835
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: just referenced, you know, doing a lot of observing right now,

836
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: and so what are you doing with your trail cameras?

837
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: Are you changing anything now going into this lull period? Yeah, yeah,

838
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: this is about that time. I'm I'm pulling all my

839
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: cameras off of a lot of my food that I

840
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: had just because a lot of it's just it's all

841
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: drying up. Beans are done turning on us. Uh go

842
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: on all especially right here southern Indiana, we're getting uh

843
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: everything get picked. Everything's getting hard of So now what

844
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: we're doing is a lot of these sub scrapes are

845
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: starting to pop up, and uh, we'll go in. We'll

846
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: do is refreshing those, or we'll go into a historical

847
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: spot that normally always has a lot of big scrapes

848
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: on it, and I'll go ahead and start opening those

849
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: up and making mock scrapes and well ahead and start

850
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: getting their cameras put on those. And then you know,

851
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: a lot of time it will be nighttime right now.

852
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: But it's just giving me an inventory on what's in

853
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: the area. Uh, just kind of getting repped up into

854
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: that next phase here before long. And um, you know,

855
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: and if we get a front here moving forward during

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Speaker 1: that law parade there, you can still get one killed.

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Speaker 1: And if you get anything coming in, get any pictures,

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Speaker 1: anything coming in, like said, right at last light, you

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Speaker 1: getting on the front, you might be like getting killed.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, right now I'll start get that exciting time

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Speaker 1: for us for starting to get that those first good cameras.

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Speaker 1: We want the inventory of the year going into the

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Speaker 1: you know, the pre rut. So we're going forward then

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Speaker 1: in this next week or so, Josh, what do you

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Speaker 1: think the bucket TV is going to be on a

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Speaker 1: scale of one to ten? Oh man, I have not

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Speaker 1: looked too far ahead on the weather. But because weather

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Speaker 1: trump's everything right now, I don't want to give it

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Speaker 1: too low a number. I'll go another four probably moving forward.

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Speaker 1: But if we can get the guy can get one

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Speaker 1: that he's got pretty patterned right now. Uh, as far

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Speaker 1: as at least at that last light or first light

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Speaker 1: in the morning. If the guy can get a good

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00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: front right now, um, he can still get one killed.

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Speaker 1: It's not the it's not into the world, but that

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Speaker 1: weather is that weather makes uh makes a big deal

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Speaker 1: on that. But right now I'm moving for and I'm

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Speaker 1: not real optimistic right now. A matter of fact, right

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Speaker 1: now it's about the time we'd like to go and

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Speaker 1: start harder and some dose um just to kind of

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Speaker 1: knock the dust off. And uh, you gotta get ready

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Speaker 1: for that that next phase there. But yeah, four I

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Speaker 1: attend propress what I'd say, all right, Josh, Well thanks

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Speaker 1: for go to me. And good luck going forward. All right,

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Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, and that concludes this week's episode of Wired

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Speaker 1: Hunt's Radio. Good luck to everyone out there was taking

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Speaker 1: advantage of some gun seasons that are starting to open,

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Speaker 1: as well as those of you who are going to

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Speaker 1: be taking advantage of the cold front that's moving through

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Speaker 1: next week. It is almost the twenties of October everyone,

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Speaker 1: and is getting to be that time of year now.

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