1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcast. Be sure 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: to check us out live every weekday from seven pm 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on Fox 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: Yes, it's right into It is The Odd Couple. Kilvin Washington, 9 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: my guy Ethan Salamo is in for Rob Parker. Rob, 10 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 3: I think it is. 11 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 4: He from intown but not in town, but intown but 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 4: not in town, if that makes sense. 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: Thing. 14 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 4: He's here, but he getting ready to go back on 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 4: the next leg of his truck. And UH talk to 16 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 4: him yesterday, So checked in with Rob. He's doing good, 17 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: he's enjoying himself. He's been all he was in Detroit 18 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: and he's back here but he's getting ready to Hawaii. 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: Did you tell him I was filling in? Was he 20 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: come up? 21 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 4: Which you know, it's funny in all full transparency, he 22 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 4: just texs, Hey, you got a sect? Can I call you? 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 4: Or something like that, And I was like, I wonder 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 4: if it's about that? 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 5: Man? Hey, many been sounding like you're having a little 26 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 5: too much fun and uh, hey, you know, you know 27 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 5: I just was wondering. 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: But no, it wasn't about it. It wasn't about that. 29 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 4: But no, he's doing what great. So we'll hear from 30 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 4: him as this trip goes on. We'll keep you updated. 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 4: But we got Epherman for today and tomorrow as well, 32 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 4: looking forward to the show a lot in story. We 33 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 4: got a couple of guests getting ready to join us 34 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 4: as well, because there's a whole bunch of football topics 35 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: to get to as we gear up and gear up 36 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 4: and get closer to the season. 37 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 3: Starting. 38 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 4: One thing I want to I'm gonna throw this out 39 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 4: here in a second because I need some help with this. 40 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 4: You to listen, I need your help with this, all right? 41 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 4: Coming up the next hour, we have Marcellus Wiley's gonna 42 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 4: join us at yeah, eight thirty if you're on the 43 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 4: East coast, five thirty on the West coast. Top of 44 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 4: the hour, we'll have Jason Lloyd, he's a columnist for 45 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 4: The Athletic uh, the Ultimate Cleveland Sports Show, going to 46 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 4: join us as well. We'll talk about well we're getting 47 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 4: ready to talk about now, but in more depth with 48 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,559 Speaker 4: him getting the person who's in Cleveland's perspective as well. 49 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 4: Then I gotta also do one a little segment. I've 50 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 4: done it a couple of times. Ain't nobody got time 51 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 4: for that? Remember the infor missed little clip? Anybody got 52 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 4: time for that? Well, on my way here, ain't nobody 53 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: got time for something I saw? So we'll do that 54 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 4: at the end of the next hour as well. So 55 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 4: a whole lot to get you throughout this show. Let's 56 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 4: welcome in the Eye couple crew, because we couldn't do 57 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 4: the show without them. 58 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: We've got rob G. The Goat. 59 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: Is back in his seat because I had to smoke 60 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 4: him over here. He was sitting where you are last 61 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: week on Friday. Oh, he was filing in feeling in 62 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: rob G speaking of feeling, he been feeling himself. 63 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 3: You let him, Yeah, like a real part of the show. 64 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 5: It is about this four or fifth time he's been 65 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 5: getting a little carried away. Oh so that's why I 66 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 5: can't get no dates. 67 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 6: Everybody got choice. 68 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 3: Making sense now? Yeah? All right? Yeah? 69 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: Cool? 70 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:54,959 Speaker 3: Cool? 71 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 4: And we got of course we got on the ones 72 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: and twos, Miss Mary, Mary. 73 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: Be Mary, why your bug? 74 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 5: And Miss Mary on the ones that truth throughout the 75 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 5: show Steven Sager is gonna get you. What's trending was 76 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 5: updated and again my fellow co anchor for the day 77 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 5: Calls of the Day is sal. 78 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 6: Shoot from Salaams. 79 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: Right, that's right. 80 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 5: Weekend was good. Super Bowl baby, that was a super Bowl. 81 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 5: Just so you know, it was a super Bowl. That 82 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 5: was dope. 83 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 3: No, the weekend was great. Man. 84 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 5: It's always good when you can just go and be 85 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 5: with the kids. Uh and and just hang out. 86 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 3: Man. 87 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 5: I look, I'm really busy during the week so just 88 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 5: decompressing with the family on the weekend is a big 89 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 5: deal for me. 90 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: I love it. I love working as well. And the 91 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 3: perfect hybrid. 92 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta I want to be with y'all, but 93 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 5: daddy gotta work because all y'all like the Universal. Yeah, 94 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 5: Universal money didn't come from the Disney that's the new one. 95 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: Now. 96 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 5: No, they they went to Disneyland Saturday after we had 97 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 5: a Universal for we had Yes. Oh, they go to 98 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 5: Disneyland all the time. Oh y'all doing I would say 99 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 5: last year and I'm talking school year like, so from 100 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: September to September, I think my wife and my boys 101 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 5: have gone to Disneyland maybe fifty times. Wait, I'm waiting 102 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 5: for the punchline. Serious, Yes, I'm serious. I've gone twice, 103 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 5: they've gone fifty. 104 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:29,239 Speaker 3: Five zero. 105 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 5: We were in Anaheim for a tournament. Like I'm pretty 106 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 5: much live in Anaheim. They're in Steel Beach in Garden Grove, 107 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 5: and my son had two games, one at two and 108 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 5: one at four. So my wife was like, look, we're 109 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 5: down there. I'll drive separate after the game, you can 110 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 5: come home. You can come home, and then I'll take 111 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 5: the boys to Disneyland. So it's just like going to 112 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 5: in and out for y'all. Look like it's just Hey, 113 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 5: it's around the corner. Let's just go to Disneyland. She'll 114 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 5: pick them up from school. Tuesday's early. 115 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, let out. Yeah yeah yeah, she put him up 116 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: from school and go to Disn'tland. 117 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, Robgy officially, don't ever tell me I live 118 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 4: a different life. Okay, I appreciate that. Please put all 119 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 4: of that on EVEM. 120 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 3: Salo. Please do you know why? You know? Why don't 121 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: you everybody got choices? 122 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 6: Is it because you tried hard in high school? 123 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 5: Hey man, all right, Maxim ever, I'm not listening to 124 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 5: it again. All right, man, we got a great show 125 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 5: lined up. Let's get this thing started. So of course, 126 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 5: all the conversation coming out of the weekend like it 127 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 5: has been, has been with the Cleveland Browns, and this 128 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 5: time it has been a couple of different ways. You 129 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 5: got Dylan Gabriel and then you have, of course, are 130 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 5: you have Joe Flacco nine to ten get a touchdown 131 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 5: seventy something yards for him? 132 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 3: Looks good. 133 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 4: But eventually the big conversation coming out of it, of 134 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: course is Shadure Sanders and how he looked where he 135 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 4: did not look great, getting sacked five times of completed 136 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 4: three passes and just looked out of sorts, as did 137 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 4: the former position you played. By the way, the offensive 138 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 4: line as well. I mean, I don't even know who 139 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 4: was out there at that point. I don't know if 140 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 4: it was D Is there a D such thing as 141 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: a D six offensive line and D two, D three 142 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 4: it was D six because I don't know they had 143 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 4: him running around out there. Now he was holding the 144 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 4: ball longer than you would want to as well. Uh 145 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: so you don't like that, But what were're saying, no, no, 146 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: go go. So the larger conversation comes out of that 147 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 4: to me, Ephraim and even Steve Sefanski we had that. 148 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 5: Let me hear me, Kevin. I'm sorry, Kevin Stefanski. This 149 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 5: is what he had. This has been the conversation his brother. Yeah, 150 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 5: let me get to Kevin. 151 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 4: Everybody had this conversation, and it's been a topic on shows, 152 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 4: including ours. Are they sabotaging? How are they using them? 153 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: Why didn't they use him for this two minute drill? 154 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 4: And does he hear all of this chatter? Here's what 155 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 4: he had to say. 156 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 7: Obviously, I don't concern myself with outside type of things, 157 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 7: but you know, I'm committed to his development, just like 158 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 7: all of our rookies. So we'll continue to focus on 159 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 7: getting our guys better, and that's what We'll stay committed 160 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 7: to him. 161 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 3: That's what's important to me. 162 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: So for me, this comes down to something that I 163 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 4: look at it this way. Are they sabotaging Shaudure? Is 164 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 4: there a game plan out to keep him under their thumb? 165 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: And I don't think that is the goal. I don't 166 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 4: think they purposely set out to sabotage Shaudure. But what 167 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 4: I do think is they have no idea what they're doing, 168 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: and they haven't had an idea what they're doing for 169 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 4: thirty the forty years, and I mean that sincerely, respectively, respectfully, like, 170 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 4: look at the quarterback situations they've had nearly forty quarterbacks 171 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 4: and over the last twenty five years, and you look 172 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 4: at the decisions that they've made. Of course we go back. 173 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 4: Let's just go back to the Deshaun Watson one. And 174 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 4: I think Shadure is paying for the Deshaun Watson move, 175 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 4: meaning we went all in, we made a controversial move, 176 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 4: We gave this guy un president guaranteed money, and it backfired. 177 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 3: He didn't play well. 178 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 5: He was also injured, and there was also a controversy 179 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 5: that came with it, and you know, and you took 180 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 5: the ire of society with some people saying what about 181 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 5: the women involved in this? They got all of that 182 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 5: compounded with him now being injured and being out, And 183 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 5: I think Shadeur is paying for a bit of that 184 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 5: of we can't have any mishaps, we can't have any mistakes, 185 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 5: and we don't want also the controversy and always having 186 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 5: to endure these conversations. 187 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: And I think Shadeur is a recipient of parts of that. 188 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: But they continue historically to make bad moves, the Browns, 189 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: and I look at this as they don't know what 190 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 4: they're doing with the quarterback position. 191 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: So now what you do is you bring in a 192 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 3: guy who's forty. 193 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: There have been fifteen quarterbacks in the history of the NFL, 194 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 4: which have been hundreds to potentially thousands of quarterbacks over 195 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 4: the years, over one hundred years of NFL, only fifteen 196 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 4: have been forty and started over ten games, about four 197 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: of that success. And you're looking at those because they're 198 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: Hall of famers. You got Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, 199 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: and of course Tom Brady, Joe Flacco ain't that And 200 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 4: so I understand he brings some stability. 201 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 3: I understand he knows the system. I'm not mad at that. 202 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: But to me, it's the same conversation that Rob g 203 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 4: Rob Parker and I had when I'm looking at the Steelers, 204 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: and you keep bringing in guys for right now, right now, 205 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 4: when they're not your future, and at some point you 206 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: have to turn a page and start you progressing towards 207 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: your future. 208 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: And you know this. 209 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 4: There will be growing pains as you go towards your future. 210 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 4: There will be mistakes as you go towards your future, 211 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: but you have to do it. And to me, keep 212 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: trying to find a mandate, keep trying to put it here. Okay, 213 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 4: we had Joe Flako made the postseas, Okay, we let 214 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: him go. Wait, go get him back. Wait, nobody wants 215 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: Canny Pikett, but go get him now. It just shows 216 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 4: and reflects to me, including the shau Dur and including 217 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 4: the Dylan Gabriel, because Dylan Gabriel has been fine ball accounts. 218 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 4: He's been fine in the locker room, he's been fine 219 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 4: on the practice field, he's been fine in the games, 220 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 4: and he's not even really getting the topic of conversation 221 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 4: when it should be. To me, we have these two 222 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: rookies that we're trying to figure out what we're doing 223 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: and maybe can he pick it? Okay, fine, and we're 224 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: trying to move forward with this who's gonna start, who's 225 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: gonna be back up? And you're moving towards your future, 226 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 4: and to me, they come out looking more disenfranchised, more 227 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 4: clueless to run this organization in that position and putting 228 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: guys in positions where they don't know what they're doing. 229 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 5: The team doesn't know what they're doing. Shaudor think is 230 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 5: he getting two minute drive? Because why wouldn't He's into 231 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 5: the game. Go ahead and go try to win this game. 232 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: Kid. 233 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 4: They don't give it to him. They're throwing somebody Huntley 234 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 4: who has nothing to do with nothing. What was the 235 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: point of that? And so I just don't get. I 236 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 4: haven't got what they were doing in the beginning. I 237 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 4: believe Shadoor Sander should absolutely be a part of this 238 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: roster and absolutely be a part of their moving forward. 239 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 5: Even if Dylan Gabriel was a starter, Shador should be 240 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 5: there as well. And I walk away from this even 241 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 5: more confused about the Brons organization, the way they drafted, 242 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 5: the way they gave Deshaun Watson money, and what they're doing. 243 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 3: That was well put. 244 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 5: And let me tell you, Okay, break it down what 245 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 5: I believe is going on. All Right, so you bring 246 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 5: it in Joe Flacco because you don't have a clear 247 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 5: cut player that you want at number one. You're not 248 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 5: really mesmerized by any of the young players in this draft, right, 249 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 5: you punt on drafting the first second round quarterback and 250 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: opt for more of a developmental rookie quarterback, which you're 251 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 5: getting the later rounds. 252 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: Third on. 253 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 5: Do you know there's about six or seven kids next 254 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 5: year will be first round quarterback talents. You understand that 255 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 5: you don't expect Joe Flacco to play all seventeen games. 256 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 5: You don't expect Joe Flacco to win the division for 257 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 5: you or anything like that. But you do expect Joe 258 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 5: Flacco to help other young players, other young position players, receivers, 259 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 5: tight ends, running backs develop because he's not developing when 260 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 5: everybody's developing together. That's a difficult task. So you want 261 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 5: to build your other assets up for when you do 262 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 5: go into the market. I believe they have two first 263 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 5: round draft picks next year. When you do go into 264 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 5: the market, and you find the kid that you'll be 265 00:11:56,120 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 5: watching all college that you'll want to in the first 266 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 5: round draft pick on with that said, you take Dylan 267 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 5: Gabriel in the third round. You know, Dylan's been in 268 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 5: college a long time, played a lot of quarterback, and 269 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 5: there's some talent there. You get told by ownership, Hey, 270 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 5: in the fifth round. Well, when the fifth round came around, 271 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 5: Shadul was still on the board. You got to take 272 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 5: your duer said, so they take him. You wouldn't normally 273 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 5: draft two quarterbacks in the same draft. It never works 274 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 5: out well, but the mandate was sent down. They did 275 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 5: what they were supposed to do. Now, Joe Flacoh didn't 276 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 5: play until the last preseason game because you know what 277 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 5: Joe Flaco is. Wanted to get him out there, knock 278 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 5: some of the real rust off of him. 279 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 3: Uh, and you. 280 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 5: Wanted to see what the other two young quarterbacks you 281 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 5: drafted had. You also went out and got Kenny Pickett 282 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 5: in a trade trade. Yeah, just to be sure. You know, 283 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 5: you don't have a quarterback. And so Dylan Gabriel got hurt. 284 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 5: Can he Picktt got hurt? And so you had Joe 285 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 5: flaccoh you had shadour first game, Shader starts plays, you 286 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 5: sign hunting Lee to back up because no one else 287 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 5: is left. He was never a cog in the world, 288 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 5: was never gonna make it. And so Chador goes out 289 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 5: there and plays well. That was a great first outing 290 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 5: in preseason. The next game, Dylan Gabriel had an opportunity, 291 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 5: even with a bad hamstring, he went out there and played. Okay, 292 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 5: she had a little bit better numbers. Uh, he had 293 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 5: more drives. But Dylan Gabriel did okay. Oblique injury, wow, Okay, 294 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 5: can he get back from that? 295 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: He does? 296 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 5: Final preseason game, you finally let Joe Flacco go out there, 297 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel, who's a third round draft pick, plays with 298 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 5: the twos, and then you have chadur coming in with 299 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 5: you know, everyone else trying to make the team. Now, 300 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 5: the problem I'm having is if you're a fifth round 301 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 5: draft pick, there are very few team captains and leaders 302 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 5: in the locker room in the fifth round, very few 303 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 5: in the third round. So until you reach that status, 304 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 5: you can't come in at that status. There's so much 305 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 5: work to be done to be respected and seeing in 306 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 5: that locker room. And this is look off season stuff, 307 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 5: off the field stuff, the speeding tickets. It is what 308 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 5: it is. But you also have to realize you're a 309 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 5: late round draft pick. No matter what you believe in 310 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 5: your mind, the numbers are the numbers. You are in 311 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 5: the fifth round draft pick. Their fifth round draft picks 312 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 5: will been cut for less, all right. So now you 313 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 5: get into the game, it doesn't go well for you. 314 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 5: Some of the the same negatives that people had about you, 315 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 5: even your fans had about you in college, are manifesting themselves. 316 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: You hold on to the ball too long. 317 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 5: There is no extending plays like that unless you have 318 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and Kyler Murray level of athleticism. 319 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 5: He does not. Shudiel Sanders isn't that black quarterback? Okay, 320 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 5: Just so I'm just gonna be real, right right, So 321 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 5: we I saw as an offensive lineman, I saw some 322 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 5: really bad sacks. Step up into the pocket. The moment 323 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 5: you turn your shoulders the opposite direction, you're in trouble. 324 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 5: Unless you're who Lamar Jackson. You're not him. You have 325 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 5: to know who you are, and no three step drop. 326 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 5: The ball must come out or you got to get 327 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 5: rid of it. There is no other read. So there 328 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 5: are some technical things that I saw him unable to 329 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 5: really do. And I don't know if it was the 330 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 5: injury or whatever. I know he wanted to make a play. 331 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 5: But if there's no play there to be made, then 332 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 5: you gotta get out of it. Instead of third or 333 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 5: in second and twenty five, you gotta go second and ten. 334 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 5: Scrambling out of scrambled. He ran out of bounds four 335 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 5: yards behind a line of scrimmage. That's the sack. All 336 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 5: you had to do is just flip the ball past 337 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 5: the line of scrimmage. Those type of things. And then 338 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 5: on top of that, remember five sacks. Some of those 339 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 5: were gruesome, could have been really bad injuries. As a 340 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 5: coaching staff, I know that I want him on my roster, 341 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 5: So what I can't afford to do is have him 342 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 5: get hurt. Huntley goes in with two minutes left behind 343 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 5: an offensive line that couldn't block forst your door. If 344 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 5: Huntley gets hurt, he guess what. Guess what happened? Twelve 345 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 5: days I mean twelve hours after Huntley played in that game. 346 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 5: They know that this didn't just happen. 347 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 3: They know this. 348 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 5: The coaching what they couldn't afford to do is have 349 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 5: Shador go into the season with a real injury. Remember 350 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 5: he hurt the op league. You don't want to exacerbate it, 351 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 5: and you don't want to get something else because that's 352 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 5: going to slow down, right, your development. That's everybody else racist. 353 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,959 Speaker 5: And they do setting him up and what are they 354 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 5: setting them up for? He's a fifth round quarterback. You 355 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 5: thought a fifth round quarterback was going to come in 356 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 5: unless he had the type of off season that Russell 357 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 5: Wilson had Matt Flynn, Right, unless he did that, which 358 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 5: he didn't. There's a lot to be worked on, But 359 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 5: it's also your attitude. Having your own rap song come 360 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 5: in into the game, pouting and whining on the sideline 361 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 5: when you don't go in and play. Professionalism is a 362 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 5: real thing. It's a real thing. A lot to be 363 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 5: desired there. And I think he listen. 364 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 4: I think he, along with some other rookies, are arguled 365 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 4: you would and you would know have a rude awakening 366 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 4: of the speed of the game. What Dylan Gabriel had 367 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 4: his where he just said something he said before, but 368 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: how it's perceived because you're in quarterback and the NFL 369 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 4: is a different experience, and I think they're all learning 370 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 4: this as they go through this process right now. 371 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 3: So all right, let's break it up. 372 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 4: Maybe we'll take one quick call before we get to 373 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 4: We got to Steve coming up in a little bit here. 374 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 4: What's trending eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. I 375 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: just think your door absolutely has a little Kayleb Williams 376 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 4: in and that he's gonna have to work out were 377 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 4: bruh You, Yes, you've been good and great your whole life, 378 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 4: but everybody else has been good and great wherever they 379 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 4: came from as well. And you have to play the 380 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 4: position sometimes similar to another quarterback up in the Bay 381 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 4: that had something to talk about about that as well. 382 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 3: We'll get that later on in the show. 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I tell 436 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,920 Speaker 4: you what too, man, people, this was if you if 437 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 4: you were I don't want to say anti, but if 438 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 4: you were maybe not a fan of the Sanders clan 439 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 4: right now, then you had a great weekend. Shiloh being released. Yeah, 440 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 4: he don't have a job. He don't have a job. 441 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 4: I still don't know exactly where Shadoor is And is 442 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 4: he the third dring? 443 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 3: Second? Is he backup? Is he cut? You know? So? 444 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 5: And didn't and did not perform well, held the ball 445 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 5: too long, got sacked five times. 446 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 4: So he didn't have a great performance whatsoever. We know 447 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: that he had a decent one according to him. By 448 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: the way, from if you if you were, if you were, 449 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 4: if you've not been rooted for them. This was definitely 450 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 4: your weekend. Uh Eve even got some texts from somebody 451 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 4: who normally would be here too, but even even I'm 452 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 4: sure he was here one he was thrilled. What I 453 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 4: was saying before we went to break is there's a 454 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 4: level of professional pessionalism that comes with being an athlete, 455 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: a pro athlete, and. 456 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: You have to earn how you feel inside. 457 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 5: Like if you feel like I was a seventh round 458 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 5: draft pick, but I didn't feel like a seventh round 459 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 5: draft pick inside. I know something about going into training 460 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 5: camp fourth on the depth chart and ending up starting 461 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 5: opening day. I know the fight it takes to do 462 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 5: that right. And you have to be open and you 463 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 5: have to be honest with yourself right, like you don't 464 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 5: don't create this thing to where you feel outwardly bigger 465 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 5: than your reality. Meaning the coach didn't put you in 466 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 5: in a two minute drill because he didn't want you 467 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 5: to get hurt, because you almost got hurt in the 468 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 5: series that you played. Period two minutes and that's when 469 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 5: they thought it was run. Are passed two minutes. It's 470 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 5: just all passed. And oh, by the way, the guys 471 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 5: who were sacking him and twelve hours will be out 472 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 5: of work. About twenty two hundred players will be looking 473 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 5: for something else to do by tomorrow's cut deadline. A 474 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 5: large portion of those guys sacking him will be in 475 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 5: those twenty right. So they they're trying to make a 476 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 5: team too right, And so you have to understand that 477 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 5: and be one hundred percent okay with the decisions the 478 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 5: coachings at this level are making. It's now, you can't transfer, 479 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 5: can't go to another school. No one's gonna come save 480 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 5: you. You gotta save yourself. So I would just like him 481 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 5: to just focus on the game, right. I felt a 482 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 5: certain type of way at the first preseason game when 483 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 5: he came in with his own rap song playing and 484 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 5: entourage and all of that. This is preseason opening day. 485 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 5: That's what you got to get yourself going cool. Something 486 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 5: doesn't go right in the game, Do not sit on 487 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 5: the bench and sulk if you watch just that's what 488 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 5: I'm looking at. You can play good and bad. It 489 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 5: happens everybody. I've had terrible games, I've had good games. 490 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 5: It happens. How you handle yourself on the sideline when 491 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 5: those things don't go your way. Everyone's watching your teammates, owners, fans, everyone. 492 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 5: You sitting on the bench, head in your hands, towel 493 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 5: on your face, arguing with someone. All of those things matter, 494 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 5: especially when you're trying to be the face of a 495 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 5: franchise at a quarterback position. Those are the problems I'm having. 496 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 5: I don't think. I think there's a perception that a 497 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 5: modified version of yourself is a complete change of yourself. 498 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 4: Meaning you're in a different environment. It's okay to switch 499 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 4: it up a bit. Be you, because that's the most 500 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 4: important thing in life for all of us, is it 501 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 4: be your authentic self. However, you can modify when you're 502 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 4: in a different situation. Right now, I'm the start of 503 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 4: the team. You can handle yourself certain w I've been 504 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 4: up in with certain ways. 505 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: It's levels. 506 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 4: There's levels to this, and that's one thing that I think, again, 507 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 4: he'll have to balance because you're not You're not as 508 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 4: talented as your dad. 509 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 3: You're not Dad will allow you to do certain things. 510 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 4: Well, they'll kind of look the other way, like all right, 511 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that, but you see how good he is. 512 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have did that. You see how good he is. 513 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been speeding but you see how good he. 514 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 5: Is, and there's an adaptation that has to occur. 515 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: We can continue on that. There's so much to touch 516 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 3: on that. 517 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 4: But also somebody finally got paid in the same division 518 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 4: as you do it. We'll get to that right now, 519 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 4: Steve Seger, go get your set on with trindin Hay Steve. 520 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 521 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 522 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 523 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: listen live. 524 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: All right, Steve, thank you so much. 525 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 4: Odd couple kelvin Washington, E for Salam and for Rob 526 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 4: Parker who is enjoined some vac this week. A little 527 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 4: sunshine out there in Hawaii. 528 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: Uh sink. 529 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 5: He's getting there a little bit today, maybe tomorrow. And 530 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 5: by the way, ak knees stiff back joint's not cooperating 531 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 5: some days your body's just it's like noping on those days, 532 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 5: he from. Luckily there's a lead with just one pill 533 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 5: of lead provides up to twelve hours a paint relief, 534 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 5: so you can keep moving. Yes, youse as directed, Thank 535 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 5: you man. Some day you got something on you now 536 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 5: you know it can't be looking like a drugs. Come 537 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,119 Speaker 5: on on YouTube. I see you got it. Man, You 538 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 5: see I got the bag over here. I might have 539 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 5: a little something. You know what I'm saying, might have 540 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 5: a little for you. You know who got a little something something? Finally, 541 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 5: Trey Henderson, Oh, Trey Hendrickson finally got a little something 542 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 5: something with money in the bag. Fourteen million dollar rais 543 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 5: from the Bengals for this season for him, boosting his 544 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 5: this year's twenty twenty five salary to thirty million dollars. 545 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 4: However, again it's just this one year. Set to be 546 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 4: a free agent after next year. We know he has 547 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 4: been waiting. He was a holdout that he came to practice. 548 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 5: Then he did something I didn't like it from He 549 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 5: came out and said, man, I feel bad. 550 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 3: I don't want to hold out. I want to be 551 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 3: a distraction to the team. 552 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 4: I don't want to I get that personally, meaning if 553 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 4: you with the wife, if you're at home sharing this 554 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 4: and talking about it. But you played in the NFL 555 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 4: for a long time and you know that you have 556 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 4: to get what you can get when you can get it. 557 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 3: You get your money. 558 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 5: You have to get your money. And I believe correct me. 559 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 5: If I'm wrong, if you earned it. If you earned it. 560 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 5: Seventeen and a half sacks last year all Pro I've 561 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 5: been coming off back to back to back seasons of 562 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 5: twelve plus sacks. You look like one of the best 563 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 5: defensive players. He is absolutely in your position. 564 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 4: And you're watching all the guys around you get paid, 565 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 4: two of them in my division. 566 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 5: I'm watching Miles Garrett get paid. I'm watching TJ. Watt 567 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 5: get paid, and I'm saying, what about me? Is what 568 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 5: I'm saying. And I'm looking at the Bengals and I'm wondering, Okay, 569 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 5: we're taking care of receivers. We've taken care of this quarterback. 570 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 5: Clearly we have to obviously, what about me? He took 571 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 5: a haircut in twenty twenty three. 572 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 4: He only got an eight million dollar They gave him 573 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 4: a bonus there, which extended his four year to sixty million. 574 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,360 Speaker 3: Point is how many bus cuts bug keep having? 575 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 4: It looked like the old school jay z where you 576 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 4: can barely have any hairs, low, looking like Jadkiss. We 577 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 4: didn't even know Jadkins can grow hair. Now you gotta 578 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 4: full of hair. How many haircuts do I have to take? 579 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 4: You know, to continue to prove it? I could get 580 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: the first one. Maybe they want to see if I 581 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 4: can keep growing, if can be better? Was it of 582 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 4: was it a fluked This last couple of seasons, he 583 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 4: has been that guy for you, especially in the defense 584 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 4: that has been has been terrible, and he continues to 585 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 4: be an anchor at least giving you some hope. 586 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 5: But they had again. Now I got to go through this, 587 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 5: And this is why you don't feel bad. 588 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 3: This is why you don't publicly talk about it. 589 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 5: I feel like I'm hurting the team, I maybe you know, 590 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 5: bringing down the morale and and I don't want to. 591 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 3: Make this showing the young guys. 592 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 4: No, you show the young guys that when you put 593 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 4: the work in, the time in and also get the results, 594 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 4: that you do fight for what you believe you deserve. 595 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 4: You do go for what you know what is yours 596 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 4: and you believe is yours. And if it doesn't work out, 597 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 4: it doesn't work out. If you got to move on, 598 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 4: you got to move on. But there's nothing wrong with 599 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 4: standing on business for yourself when you've been very productive 600 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 4: of the last three to four years. If not, now, 601 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: when when do I fight for myself? And so I 602 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 4: look at this as to me, you know you got 603 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 4: your money. You didn't get the long term deal like 604 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 4: the other guys got. Obviously they had to take care 605 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 4: of all the offensive players, and that might have been 606 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 4: ultimately will hurt you. But to me, the idea of 607 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 4: the overarching theme of well, I don't know, maybe I 608 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 4: feel bad holding out, and man, you have to do 609 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: what you have to do, because you know who's gonna 610 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 4: do what they have to do, any team, any organization, 611 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 4: And if cutting you is what they got to do, 612 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 4: they'll do it. If trading you is what they gotta do, 613 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 4: they'll do it. Releasing you, sitting you down, whatever it is, 614 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 4: they'll absolutely do that. We saw how the Broncos had 615 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 4: to Russell Wilson, I'll player, come on. 616 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 5: Fum here, just have a seat, you know, with Clarencester, 617 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 5: realize this is not personal, man, right. You gotta remember 618 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 5: the San Francisco forty nine ers didn't want Jerry Rice anymore, 619 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 5: the greatest receiver ever to play. 620 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 3: By a mile. 621 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 5: They didn't want him anymore. Joe Montana. They were like, 622 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 5: oh we got this other guy. You good, you can 623 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 5: go right. So when you get caught up in this thing, 624 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 5: you got relax. This is what four super Bowls, Joe 625 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 5: Montana four and oh Jerry Rice, the greatest receiver ever, 626 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 5: the grace the any field, anywhere. They were done with 627 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 5: the greats. So you feel this thing inside of you 628 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 5: like they hating on me. They're making business decisions. Your 629 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 5: behavior off the field can affect those business decisions for 630 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 5: you on the field. Sometimes it's just not about performance, 631 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 5: which it should be, but they're they're having conversations about 632 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 5: the totality of things, and as players, I was guilty 633 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 5: of it. 634 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: Sometimes you can't see that. You just feel. 635 00:30:55,440 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 5: And hear what you hear, and like, I won't they 636 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 5: pay me? Well, Cincinnati has been historically cheap. They just 637 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 5: spent more money this offseason than twenty years and so 638 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 5: now you want them to spend more. It's hard to 639 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 5: make them do that. They don't not like you, they 640 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 5: don't have a problem with you, but sometimes other things 641 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 5: come into play, and that's one of these situations. So 642 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 5: like my dad told me, man, you can't control when 643 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 5: and how long you play. You can just control how 644 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 5: you play. Everything else work itself out, And that would 645 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 5: be my advice to any of these players should do. 646 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 5: We just mentioned Shiloh his brother. It's not on an 647 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 5: NFL roster now, he may sign somewhere on the practice squad, 648 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 5: but this is not college and the lead he doesn't care. 649 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 5: Let me ask you a question. Shadua was good in 650 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 5: college at Jackson State at Colorado. Did he win a 651 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 5: national championship? 652 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: Nope? Did he win a Heisman? Nope? 653 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 5: Was he invited to the Heisman? Do you know of 654 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 5: a players currently in the league now? His name is 655 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 5: Stetson Bennett. What did Stetson Bennett do in college at 656 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 5: the University of Georgia. He bought out, he won, He 657 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 5: won two national championships the highest level. He is fighting 658 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 5: to be on a roster tomorrow. 659 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: For my life. 660 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 5: This is the reality of it. No one cares what 661 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 5: you did in college. And I'm not saying they're the 662 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 5: same quarterback, but what I'm saying is the ultimate goal 663 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 5: in college is to win national championships. He's got two 664 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 5: bang bang. His football journey may be over with a doubt. 665 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 5: So you have to keep everything in context and understand. 666 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 5: Look everything I get now, I gotta earn They control 667 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 5: when I play and how long I play. I don't. 668 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 3: If I did, I would start and I would be 669 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 3: there and play everywhere. 670 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 5: You can't control that how you react to how they're 671 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 5: controlling it. They're also taking note of that as well. 672 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 5: And but I still that's why I still stand on 673 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 5: Trey Henderson. Don't feel bad for fighting with you, no trade, don't. 674 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 5: None of this is controllable, brother. 675 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: You earned it. 676 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 4: If they can work it out, they can't. If they can't, 677 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 4: you gotta move on and do that. 678 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 5: But you absolutely have the right to ask for more 679 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 5: and demand more based off your play over the last 680 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 5: handful of years. 681 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 4: That's only right, all right, play of the day on 682 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: the way. We gotta get to that. 683 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 5: And also uh Otani show, Hey Otani doing something that 684 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 5: I thought was pretty cool for him. 685 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 3: It is the Accouple Kelvin Washington. 686 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 4: We got from Salami for Rob on This Magic City 687 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 4: Monday State with Your Boys is Fox Sports Radio. 688 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple 689 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 2: with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm Eastern, 690 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 2: four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 691 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 4: Oh Miss Mary Mack Fox Sports Radio. Kevin Washington, he 692 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 4: is he for Salon. We are the Odd Couple. He 693 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 4: is in for Rob Parker on this Magic City Monday. 694 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 4: Ray Shimmer had a little run. They had a little run, 695 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 4: little little one, that nice little run. 696 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 6: He's having a heck of a run on the odd 697 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 6: couple right now. 698 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 7: Now. 699 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 6: I know y'all ain't paying attention. 700 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 3: Oh, I know, it's back to best. She played the 701 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 3: same We know you didn't notice that. I know I did. 702 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 3: We did. 703 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 5: This is this is this is this is a spiritual 704 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 5: I was literally about to do that. 705 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, because everybody got choices, and the choice was I 706 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 6: just really liked the song. I will play it twice. 707 00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 4: That's what it is on Miss Mary Mack, Miss ma 708 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: Ry Max shimshis got the clips. She getting ready to 709 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 4: empty the clip over here, all right, the sign now 710 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 4: for your tire reck Player of the Day, Rob G. 711 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 4: Hayden on race shimmr. 712 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: Hitch coming Old Tonny. 713 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 2: It's a rocket's a right. 714 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 9: Field way back there and a way goun. 715 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 8: The Dodgers with their fourth home run of this Sunday 716 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 8: afternoon in the forty fifth of the season for the 717 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 8: reigning MVP. 718 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 6: It's now eight. 719 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 4: To two, forty fifth home run for show. Hey, who 720 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 4: just continued to do amazing things. One of the few times. 721 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 4: Let me just get to this and I'll bring it 722 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 4: back to you. 723 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 3: Ephraim. That's his forty fifth right there. 724 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 5: And it was also cool after that was him dapping 725 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 5: up an opposing fan of Padre Fanny kind of sitting 726 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 5: right there by the net. He goes up, DAPs up 727 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 5: because the guy been talking smack to him the whole time. 728 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 5: Is one of those Hey, you see me, I heard 729 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,040 Speaker 5: the Hey, I'm gonna let you know if I heard 730 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 5: you heard you all game by the way, you see 731 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 5: what I do. 732 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 4: Your Tirereck Play today is brought to you by tire Racking. 733 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 4: For over forty years, tyreck has been helping customers find 734 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 4: the right tires for how, what and where they drive. 735 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 4: Ship fast and free back by Freeborld has a protection 736 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 4: with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation tirac dot com. 737 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 5: The way tire bids should be. Even one thing I 738 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,479 Speaker 5: like about show. 739 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 4: Hey, I think Tiger Woods fits the bill, and I 740 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 4: know these are the greatest of the great So maybe 741 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,360 Speaker 4: if there's a level down, I can find somebody. But 742 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 4: Lebron just people who came in with the Saint Peyton 743 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 4: manning insane amount of hype and you better be this 744 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 4: and what we're expectations and to at least live up 745 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 4: to it, and then in some cases I think Lebron 746 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 4: exceeded it. The argument that he legitimately could be the greatest. 747 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 4: The fact that we can even entertain that is crazy, 748 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 4: considering how many people we keep saying, is the next 749 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 4: Feeling to Blake, the next Lebron, the next Kobe, the next, 750 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 4: the next to the next, you know what I mean, 751 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,240 Speaker 4: next Lebrons. 752 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,280 Speaker 5: We've had over last of it, Zion, oj Mayo, Andrew 753 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 5: Wiggin Andron, the next Jordan, No Lebron specifically, because they're 754 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 5: saying he's gonna be like that and he has to 755 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 5: let alone Jordan, jeredd Was, Jordan Was, Grant Hill, Harold 756 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 5: Minor h everybody, everybody the next even now I would 757 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 5: it's almost disrespectful what you said. 758 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 3: But that's what party did I say with the next Lebron? 759 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 5: I don't know, And no that they didn't because they 760 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 5: that's not the measuring stick, though I think it was 761 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 5: the current measurings at a certain point people, because you, 762 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 5: for instance, here comes the next Bill Russell. 763 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 3: Then it excuse me, faded to Kareem. 764 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 4: Then it phased the shock or did it face Like 765 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 4: I think Larry Bird was the NB all for a 766 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 4: long time. 767 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 3: Man he's the next then it phased to the next person. 768 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 5: So I think did it fade from Jordan's not fading 769 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 5: that he's Jordan's Jordan and Jordan's Jordan. 770 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,799 Speaker 4: I'm not debating that. But the hype, it was the 771 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 4: hype and coming in. I remember Oj Mayo, they were 772 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 4: saying he could be the next Lebron And I think 773 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 4: maybe the comparison is the noise you're hearing from high school. 774 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:47,959 Speaker 3: We didn't hear noise. 775 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 5: It was a different era from Lebron or MJ coming 776 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 5: out of high school like that. So I think it 777 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 5: was more so the the grumbling, like we were watching 778 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 5: Zion mixtapes when he was like eight, So I think 779 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 5: it was more so that and Andrew Wiggans same thing, 780 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 5: high school mixtapes, and. 781 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 3: Well we're in We're in a different era now. Now 782 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,280 Speaker 3: we have like real footage, tangible proof. 783 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 5: These kids are put eleven eleven, twelve years old with 784 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 5: mixed tapes and Instagram pages, Like my nephew got a 785 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 5: Instagram page just popping right. You want the top eleven 786 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 5: year olds in the country. So that's just great. By 787 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 5: top eleven year old is great, that's just you know. 788 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,280 Speaker 5: To Robzie, were you a top nine year old and anything? 789 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 5: Top eleven year old and anything? 790 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: Mary I was? It was a question. 791 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 4: There are no assumptions she was the top feeling the 792 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 4: blank top of your eleven year old? 793 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 3: What anything? Everything here? 794 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 5: You gotic catic cat cap almost got your mic off. 795 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 5: You don't even control your exactly collected eleven year old. 796 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 797 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 2: Other thing me? 798 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 5: The mine would have been for sure. Charmer, absolutely top 799 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 5: top ten created a whole category, the whole thing just charm, 800 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 5: not the whole thing to be in the top ten 801 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 5: of charming? 802 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 4: Teacher, Why is your homework, miss Williams hearing me? Obviously? 803 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, call and stop it.