1 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: If this is the meat Eater Podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 2 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listening podcast, you 3 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: can't predict anything. The meat Eater Podcast is brought to 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: you by First Light. Whether you're checking trail cams, hanging 5 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: deer stands, or scouting for ELK. First Light has performance 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: apparel to support every hunter in every environment. Check it 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: out at first light dot com. F I R S 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:40,559 Speaker 1: T L I t E dot com. Welcome to the 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: meat Eater Podcast. Where we're you wound called broadcasting. We're 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: recording in a airplane hair plane hanger, yeah, next to 11 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: a two o six. If you, guys, if this was 12 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: a better show, we'd let you look that way. I 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: argued in setting up that that is is way more 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: interesting than over here. It's busy. Yeah, well if you could. 15 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: If you if they had done it the way I thought, 16 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: and you're watching on on you're watching the video on YouTube, 17 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: you'd be looking at a big old welding project where 18 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:21,639 Speaker 1: there's like a frame of a cub getting all welded together, 19 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: and it's held up in this kind of jig apparatus 20 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: to support the whole thing, and there's all kinds of 21 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: tools laying around and just looks awesome. But instead you 22 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: got just a regular old plane. 23 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: So pretty cool, pretty cool plane. 24 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: That's a good looking plane. It's good. There's nothing wrong 25 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: with that plane. It was telling you it's better over 26 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: that way. 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: Coolest part about that plane that people can't see is 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: it says forestry on the wing. 29 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Okay, uh? Joining it by av so cool? Joining it 30 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: by Avanthalker, who's on the show for the second time. Yeah, 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: do you remember what do we call the last time 32 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: you came on? 33 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,639 Speaker 2: What was the name of it? Yeah, I can't remember. 34 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: You did a good job on that one. 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: Oh thanks. 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: I keep wanting to sing my new song about Chili, 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: just to show people that it's not like that big 38 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: of a deal. What's not that big of a deal, right, 39 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: it's just writing songs. Whatever. Listen to this one. Chili's 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: rifle man, gonna make his final stand. See how far 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: I got on that. 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 4: It sounded like he almost forgot the second line. 43 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 1: The second line was I just repeat the first line. 44 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: It was Chili's a rifle man. Chili's a rifle man, Oh, 45 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: rifle in his hand, gonna make his final stand. So 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 1: now you're hooked dude, because you're hooked, because you're like, 47 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: tell me more about the final stand, but. 48 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 5: Knowing you probably won't, you probably won't write anything more 49 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 5: to it, I'd say. 50 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: I'd say it's more of like a marching or hiking cadence. Well, 51 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: we're hiking, fixing the hike when I'm. 52 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,399 Speaker 3: Talking about seven days to come off the bats. 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: All, it takes time. 54 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, so my song, my song is faltering, and uh, 55 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: that's that what I want to do. Though. So we're 56 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: coming from we're in this here aircraft hangar, and we're 57 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: coming from uh spending four or five days, six six nights, 58 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: at least six nights six nights doing like a little 59 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: backpack based fly in airplane hunt. And when we got 60 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: into it, we we had this argument about I was 61 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: I was taking like I was playing Devil's advocate on 62 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: this argument where the guys here were talking about looking 63 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: at packing lists. Okay, someone looking at packing lists, and 64 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: I was just, for no reason at all, assuming the 65 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: position of someone who didn't think that was constructive that 66 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: you just felt like arguing, Yeah, I feel like arguing nothing. 67 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: There's nothing like big to argue about. Rick can't said 68 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: anything like totally stupid. 69 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 4: Did you bring your iyem ask? 70 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: That's the question. 71 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 4: Did you bring your iyem ask? 72 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: No? No, So so I think what I was saying 73 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: was this. I was saying, it's very Subjective's subject highly subjective, 74 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: because there's like things that work for people and things 75 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: that don't work for people. And I was saying, how 76 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: I could go online and trick you guys and make 77 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: a packing list for something that's coming up and then 78 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: put crazy stuff on it and then laugh when you 79 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: brought it. 80 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, well I was trying. I was trying to tell 81 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 6: you that I have the ability in my mind to 82 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 6: be like that will work for me, that won't type 83 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 6: of thing. 84 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's a good reminder I should bring that. 85 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: Yeah it dark, Yeah, that's it. Wasn't thinking that that 86 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: I should probably take that. So that's the attitude with 87 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: which you approach. 88 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 6: Pack Yeah, not like if I was watching yours and 89 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 6: you're like, oh, I have a I was gonna, yeah, pushbrew. 90 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 4: Clean out your tent, just like one of those little guys. Nice. 91 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally No, the list and then buried right in 92 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: the middle. List is like a push broom and see 93 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: if people bring it. 94 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 4: See Conrad did not look at the list and he 95 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 4: used a sock to cover his eyes, which worked out 96 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 4: pretty well. 97 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: So what I want to do, I want to do. 98 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: I want to do a gear thing for a minute. 99 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: What I want to do is not what you brought, 100 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: not what you brought. But if everyone can think real quick, 101 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: you can raise your hand when you're ready. Not what 102 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: you brought, but like so so backpack hunting in June 103 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: in the mountains in east central Alaska, spring bear hunting 104 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: more like early summer bear hunting, because like it starts 105 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: turning the winter again in a couple of months, you know, 106 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: like September it'll snow right well, snow in August. 107 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 3: It's like early summer in the valley winter up tops. 108 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: Not what not, not what you brought that you like? 109 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: What do you what? What? What was the thing you 110 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: wish you had done to different packing? Something you'd change, 111 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: should have brought like a packing insight. Oh, if you're ready, 112 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: because I could go, I had time to know that 113 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: I was gonna do this. 114 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 4: I brought really ultra light rain pants. 115 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: You first give your credentials. 116 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 4: My name is Rick, one of the camera guys. 117 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Well I'll do it better than that. When you're watching 118 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: a nature When you're watching Nature documentary and there's like 119 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: some crazy thing happens, You're like, how in the world 120 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: did they ever film that? Rick did it? No? 121 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 4: No, I've I work on this show more than I 122 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 4: work on Nature documentary. 123 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: But you do work on nature occasionally, don't be mine? 124 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: Yeah? 125 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: His brother's doctor. 126 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, Morgan, this is your podcast. Shout out all 127 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 4: your your buddies up there. And hell Rick's parents are 128 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 4: very proud of his brother. Yeah, ultra light pants. 129 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: No, I want to get back to your credentials. 130 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 4: All right, Well, I've been working on this show since 131 00:06:59,080 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 4: twenty sixteen. 132 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been working with us for a million years. 133 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 1: But sometimes remember when you went to that golf course 134 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: and you had to just wait there forever waiting for 135 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: and kill a dump or something. 136 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: BBC Natural History Unit shoot, and you just. 137 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: Spent you just spend a boatload of time waiting for 138 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: a bunch of wolves to kill a moose. 139 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 4: Yep up for a Disney Plus show with Bertie Gregory. 140 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: So yeah, somewhat wildlife wildlife film Polar Bears, which is 141 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: cool film Polar Bears. Yeah, yeah, where in the Hudson 142 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: Bay south of Churchill. 143 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: So like I was saying, yeah, so when you watch 144 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: some animals do something, rick pro filming it. 145 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 4: Well, or yeah, or I'm filming the guy filming it. 146 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 4: You know, I'm in the he's in the mix, in 147 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 4: the mix. 148 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 149 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Now you wish you'd have broad well I was. 150 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 4: You know, the weight we have to carry just a 151 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 4: lot of batteries, so then you try to like go 152 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: ultra light on everything else. So my rain pants were 153 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 4: very thin, and I brought puffy pants thinking, oh, you know, 154 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: those will keep me warm and we go up high. 155 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,119 Speaker 4: But I think I should have brought thicker rain pants. 156 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 4: It's wind production and not not bothered with the ultra 157 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 4: light little ones. I mean going through the alders. If 158 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: it was wet, it would have been uh, those pants 159 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 4: wouldn't have survived. So no puffies, No puffies, Yeah I 160 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 4: had I had one too many insulation layers. I cannot. 161 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: You know, when it's my turn, I'm going to do 162 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: something that I have dialed and something that I don't. 163 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: So go ahead and hit something that you think is 164 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: something in your your general program that's dialed. 165 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 4: I think my using I sweat a lot, and so 166 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: it's humid, and I use a synthetic, like that first 167 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 4: layer synthetic and then the rest of my stuff's wool. 168 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 4: So I think that's the like when you when we hike, 169 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 4: we generally hike super fast and hard. And Steve's still 170 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 4: wearing like all of his layers and his gloves, and 171 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 4: I'm in a like a T shirt sweating, and uh 172 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: so I think I got my my bass layer game 173 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 4: suitable for me. 174 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: I didn't have you pegged as a sweaty man. 175 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: Oh god, just if I just start thinking too hard. 176 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: Breakout and sweat. Yeah, you know, we hike hard and 177 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: we sit hard, right, that's yeah, this is the thing. 178 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 4: So if you look at if you look at like 179 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: ultra light hiking lists, they're all made for hiking, stopping 180 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 4: and going to bed. 181 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. 182 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: We we do this thing where we hike really hard 183 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 4: and then we sit in spots that you would never 184 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 4: camp in because they're cold and they're windy, and you're 185 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 4: exposed and you're not in your tent and you're not 186 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 4: in your sleeping bag. So you have to bring more 187 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 4: insulation layers and than somebody that's just doing like a 188 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: fast through hike situation. 189 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're right, you get all worked up and 190 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: you sit and then all of a sudden a while 191 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: lay like freezing. My asks. 192 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're not normally if if it gets cold 193 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: and you're through hiking, you're just you're sleeping in like 194 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: your little comfy sleeping bag. We're just sitting out on 195 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 4: a knob, last one for a couple hours. 196 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: So that's what you got dial Yeah, Okay, who wants 197 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: to go next? We're saving Evan for last. Evan's still 198 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 1: formulating you got one already because he's you're still that 199 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: was Chilli, because because Evan's still acclimating to the like 200 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: you're like a horse guy. 201 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't ever backpacked before. 202 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: So you're you're still agregating to all the like the 203 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: fancy materials. 204 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's it's nice. I mean it's like, oh yeah, 205 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: it's a lot less stuff to deal with. 206 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: Okay, keep stewing on that, Okay, working on it. If 207 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: you can put it into like a song for him, 208 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: right Limerick, Okay, Chilli, go ahead. 209 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:42,719 Speaker 6: Uh. 210 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: I think the. 211 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 3: Oversight the one thing I would have done better, Like 212 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 3: I wasn't. 213 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 5: I kind of knew but didn't really fully grasp like 214 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 5: the fact that you know how it would affect sleeping, 215 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 5: like with the sun being out. 216 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 3: All night. 217 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about just how bright it is. Like what 218 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: activities could you do all night whatever you do during 219 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: the day. You could shoot a rifle, yeah, at any 220 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: distance all night. 221 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. 222 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 6: Yeah, if you wanted to, you could go completely. You 223 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 6: can flip your day completely. Yeah, Like if you wanted 224 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 6: to bear hunt from six pm to you know, four am, 225 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 6: four am, you know, be no different. You could do 226 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 6: that and then sleep all during the regular day hours 227 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:30,199 Speaker 6: that light out. 228 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 229 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 5: And so with that, like the effect that the sun 230 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 5: had on the tent, like when we were sleeping, kind 231 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 5: of it wasn't like terrible, but it kind of made 232 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 5: it like a little warmer than what you would get 233 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 5: or a lot warmer than what you get if you 234 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 5: had like actually darkness. And so I found that when 235 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 5: I'm in my sleeping bag, it got a little humid 236 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 5: and like my legs would like it'd get kind of 237 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 5: sticky because it kind of sweat a little bit. So 238 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 5: if I had to bring something, it would be like 239 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 5: a pair of like top long Johns, So like my 240 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 5: legs went stick together. 241 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: And I hate, I absolutely hate that you got sweaty thighs, 242 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: is what you're saying. 243 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yes, And I'm a pretty light sleeper and 244 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 5: anything that's wrong I will wake me up or make 245 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 5: me cause me to move. 246 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 3: So yeah, I probably would have done that. 247 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: That was my thing. 248 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 5: But on the flip side, the thing that I think 249 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 5: I did really well was like my sleeping system set 250 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 5: up was like you know, like had I had one 251 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 5: of those Nemo accordion pads and then I had a 252 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 5: Nemo or a Thermoresque inflatable pad and that was like 253 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 5: probably and like plus my nice uh sleeping system that 254 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 5: was pretty dialed. Actually, my sleeping system saved your ass. 255 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: I'll get through that. Okay, that's my oversight. Save Steve's life. 256 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: So I forgot what you got dialed the sleeping my 257 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: sleeping set up, oh yeah, which is what I don't 258 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: have dialed. Yeah, yeah, you know what you're talking about, 259 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: Like that feeling you get of everything sticky and I 260 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: just sleeping bag. After a few nights, I wear those. 261 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: I sleep in those arrow wool boottop ones boottop ELK 262 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: super thin arrow will bootop LJ because it keeps you 263 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: from getting that feeling like you're glued to the fabric. 264 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: Of your bag. 265 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:14,079 Speaker 3: I hate that. 266 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: And Seth that's the way Seth was. 267 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 268 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 5: We shared a tent and he had those on every night. 269 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 5: I just get jealous. I also sleep in an arrow 270 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 5: will top. 271 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess. Yeah, so I don't stick all gluey 272 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: to my bag right weight top. Same, Thanks for sharing, Chili, 273 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: I'm ready, Okay, go ahead. 274 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 6: I did not bring gators on this trip, which oversight oversight. 275 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: I just forgot him. I so it sounds like someone's 276 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: reading a bad packing list. 277 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 6: Well, it was on the packing list. I just I 278 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 6: actually had him said out and then I just forgot him. 279 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 6: Gators would have been nice. And another thing I give 280 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 6: like a right well stream crossings. It rained half the 281 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 6: time over half the time. 282 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a forty eight hour rain stretch. 283 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're going through thick altars and willows and you 284 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 6: just end up with wet pants. 285 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: So I wish I had gators. 286 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 6: And then I wish I would have brought the lightweight 287 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 6: at like orange attless gloves for the rain rainy days. Oh, 288 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 6: because I soaked out my leather gloves. 289 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: That's a good point, man, that's a good point. Yeah, 290 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: I've done that in the pass on rainy, rainy stuff. 291 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, you'd bring like rubber commercial fishing gloves yep, 292 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: and just be like screw it now, dude. 293 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like they're not super heavy to where you're like, 294 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 6: you know, too hot, but they're you know, just enough 295 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 6: to take the edge off and you just don't get 296 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 6: your gloves wet. 297 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: When I publish my gear list, that might put that 298 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: in there. 299 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, we'll read it, Seth, and I'll probably read 300 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 6: that gear. And the thing that I had dialed was 301 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 6: my water system. I think tell us more liter and 302 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 6: a half Nalgene bottle and two of those collapsible like 303 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 6: platypus bottles, No big ol' ms R bladder Nope, nope, 304 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 6: just two of those, and I would stay like the 305 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 6: stuff that I felt like I needed to stairy pen. 306 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 6: I would just do that in the in the now gene. 307 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 6: And then the two platypus bottles were like my dirty 308 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 6: water bottles, so I would fill those up and then 309 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 6: fill up my big bottle and then I would stairy 310 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 6: pen in that, and then the as I needed I 311 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 6: would take from the platypus bags dump into the Nalgene bottle. 312 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: Then and you're happy with that. 313 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean a lot of the stuff we 314 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: drank from we didn't didn't need to. 315 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: I didn't purify a thing the whole trip. We were 316 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: higher than the beavers. Yeah, and we're just drinking water 317 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: out of Glacier. 318 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: That stuff that came out of that side drainage that 319 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: we went up that you said was like the the 320 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: Grayling stream, Yep, that stuff was just seems so pure. 321 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. 322 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: The Glacier River had a little bit of like silty 323 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: clo oh. 324 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a lot of that. And you know, 325 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: I was bringing this up and I shouldn't even bring 326 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: it up because I'm not. I'll bring it up with 327 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: the with the caveat that. I don't don't know if 328 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: this is true. I feel like guys that live up 329 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 1: here have told me that there's like that it's that 330 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: drinking too much of that, that it's not good to 331 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: drink too much of that glacial till or they just 332 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: don't like it. So when I'm with my brother Danny, 333 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: they'll bring a they'll bring a like a picture like 334 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: a big collapsable dog bowl yep. Like it's like a 335 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: like a duffel bag that's made out of that what 336 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: the hell's the material on? Todd trying to think of 337 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: like a it's like a duffel bag bucket. I don't 338 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: un till you call it just like a waterproof Yeah, 339 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: like a waterproof bag bucket. Yeah. And they'll dip will 340 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: dip out of that three four gallons at night and 341 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: then let's settle and then drink it in the morning 342 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: and in the morning when it's not being agitated by 343 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: flow in the morning. It's just like an eighth of 344 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 1: an inch of just clay, yea laying on the bombs stuff. 345 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: So they'll set it out at night just to let 346 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: it settle, to not drink it. But I feel like 347 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: they were someone was telling me something about that. It's 348 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: not just like that, you shouldn't do that too much. 349 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: I could be making that up. So don't stop drinking 350 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: glacial till based on what I'm telling you do your 351 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: own reasons. 352 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 6: Maybe maybe looking back, I would I would probably liked 353 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 6: to have had a filter for that stuff instead of 354 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 6: just to get the till out. Just to get the 355 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 6: till out, you run through your underwear. Well you had 356 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 6: more till, yeah, but no, that's that's all I got. 357 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: Conrad, give your background. You never been on the show before? No, 358 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 1: first time, first time on the Mediator podcast. But Brad 359 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: Brooks has been on the podcast and you're his friend. Yep. 360 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: I'm an old climbing buddy at Brad Brooks. I grew 361 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: up climbing with him for a number of years. 362 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: Uh. 363 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 3: Started filming with him some of his hunts a couple 364 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 3: of years ago, never hunted before. He was like, you 365 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 3: want to go film some film some hunts and I 366 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 3: know you can keep up. And I was like, yeah, 367 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 3: let's do it. And UH went out for about a 368 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 3: week and a half on a rifle elk hunt and 369 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,159 Speaker 3: I thought it was just awesome, just running around in 370 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: the woods. 371 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: It's great. 372 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: And then had been filming with him for a couple 373 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 3: of years. UH, and then got connected with you guys 374 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 3: with through Brad and then oh, so he's not pissed 375 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 3: at you with us, No, he's I told him, And 376 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: he was like, oh, yeah, that's awesome. He he can 377 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: acted me with Sam. 378 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 4: Uh. 379 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 3: And then my buddy Drew Smith his brothers with with 380 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: Dirt and he connected me with Dirt and had a 381 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 3: good conversation with him, and and we have a lot 382 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: of the same background. He fought fire. I fought fire. 383 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 3: We were a year apart at a in Neats Bay 384 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 3: in Alaska. I worked up there in a hatchery and 385 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 3: and he was on a boat up there, and so yeah, 386 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 3: here here I am. And it's awesome. 387 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: I was. 388 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 3: I kept calling dirt two point zero. Yeah, yeah, Sam 389 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: sat a couple of times too. Yeah, that's yeah. And 390 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 3: he recommended me and I had never met him, so 391 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 3: that's awesome. 392 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: Well that might be like a Garrett did the wedding, 393 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: so you know, or or didn't. Sounds like. 394 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: We had a thirty minute conversation. He was like, you're like, yeah, 395 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 3: I'll put in a good word for you. And I 396 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 3: was like, man, I've never worked with you. You don't 397 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: have to do that, but I really appreciate it. 398 00:19:58,080 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm glad he did this. But it was a 399 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: fun hang out. 400 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, super fun. 401 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: Okay, hit me with your hit me with your insights. Yeah, 402 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: I forgot Long John's this trip. I I I wish 403 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: you'd have brought it up. Well, when I get to 404 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: my thing, you'll know why you should have brought it up. 405 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 3: Okay, Well I forgot Long John's. I realized it on 406 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 3: the on these gonna be like I had. I realized 407 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:23,120 Speaker 3: it on the on the drive. 408 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: Why did you say anything? 409 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 3: I told Sam and she and she was like, oh, 410 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: do we need to get you long John's ad. No, 411 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 3: I didn't want to complain, was just tough it out. 412 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 3: But anyway, should have brought long John's. 413 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 6: Uh. 414 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 3: And I probably would have brought an extra bass layer 415 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: for the top just for sleeping with all this wet weather. 416 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: Uh. 417 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: It's nice to get in your bag and have have 418 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: dry clothes him. So those those are the two things 419 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: I would have would have brought. 420 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: And then what do you what? What? What like? What 421 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: thing in your pack? And thing feels like just totally tight. 422 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: I think my sleeping system earplugs because I'm sleeping with 423 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Rick and he snores. Yeah. 424 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, it used to me and I did not know this. 425 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: I don't know about it has developed recently. But a 426 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 3: nice tent, nice sleeping bag, good good pad sleeps. Sleep 427 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 3: for me is super important after big, long days. So 428 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: the more sleep I can get, the better. Blow up pad, 429 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: blow up pad, yeah, exo pad uh, and our golly 430 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: sleeping bag twenty degree bag super warm and then our 431 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 3: golly uh uh two p tent got it? 432 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: Yep, and that's like the new fan dangled floorless single 433 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: wall tents. 434 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: Yep, single wall super waterproof. Got a little condensation problems 435 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 3: when it's when it's raining out, but every ten has that. 436 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't. 437 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 3: We me and me and Rick were throwing back and 438 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: forth if we need to bring an insert, and when 439 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 3: we came up here and it's all that snow, we 440 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: didn't bring an insert and just rule the doll floorless. 441 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: And it was a pound to carry around your backpack. 442 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: So that's nice. 443 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's super nice. 444 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 1: You ready, You know you have to do yours yet, 445 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: because I can do mine. You can if you just 446 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: get nervous. You want to get it over with. 447 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: Let's do it, let's do it. 448 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: You want to hit it. 449 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: So the thing that I the only the only thing 450 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 2: that I missed when uh, when I was up there 451 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 2: because you guys told me what to get or got 452 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: got me rigged out, was I wished I had some 453 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: shoes to walk around camp in. Wish I brought that. Yeah, 454 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 2: if I could get away with the Yeah, but just 455 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 2: because putting your boots on after you've been in them 456 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: for a while, which the boots were Honestly, I was 457 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 2: talking about it yesterday. They're good, like pretty comfortable boots, 458 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: but still kind of putting them back on to slip 459 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: around to go do whatever you need to do around 460 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 2: the camp. And uh, as far as being dialed in, 461 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 2: I was not dialed in, but I had. 462 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: I did wear. 463 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 2: I can't take credit for being dialed in. 464 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: Like I had. 465 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 2: As far as my layers went, there were they were good. 466 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: I had or Long John's the whole trip, and two 467 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 2: sets of like a T shirt over the long Johns 468 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 2: on top, and pretty much slept in my clothes and 469 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: brought like a couple pairs of socks to dry one 470 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: and do the other gaiters and stuff like that. It 471 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 2: was I mean, I can't think of a time I 472 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: was particularly like the temperature or rain was bothering me, 473 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 2: you know. And if you got cold, you could put 474 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 2: that extra layer of rain rain gear on and you 475 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: can stay pretty warm even sitting still. 476 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: And you didn't blow up your sleeping pad till the 477 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: third night. 478 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: No, I didn't know how to do it. 479 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: Sleeping on the ground. 480 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: It was. 481 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: It was pretty good, but like the sleeping pad's real 482 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: real good. I got in there and I didn't see 483 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 2: like the blow up bad and I was trying to 484 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: blow it up with my mouth and I was like, oh, 485 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 2: this is not gonna work. 486 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 6: I just. 487 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: Defeated like the again. Man was yell over to my 488 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: tent area and. 489 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: But it it, it all worked out. 490 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Here's here's my problem. Uh. I used 491 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: to never use inflatable pads. Sleep pads, but the best 492 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: thing in the world until so I got mine. Really, 493 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: I was kind of in like a little puddle for 494 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: a while, and I went to dry my bag and 495 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: got some not even ambers. Dude like ash put some 496 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: burn some holes in my pad. I was trying to 497 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: dry my pad and I burned some holes in my pad. 498 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: Couldn't find all the suns of bitches. Found one one night, 499 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: found not one of the other nights, still one thing 500 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: in it. And you realize that, Uh, you put a 501 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: lot of faith in those. You put a lot of 502 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: faith in something that's pretty fallible. I mean they're great, 503 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: but they're fallible. And Rick was carrying a blow up 504 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,239 Speaker 1: pad and he had a little halfy a little one 505 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: of those. 506 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 4: I guess just in case, just you can use it 507 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 4: as a pad when you're glassing. 508 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: But you said in case, my thing, I don't like 509 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: I don't usually pack with a ton of in cases, 510 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: but those I got two sleeping bags in case something 511 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: happens to sleep. 512 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 4: And it is sort of the in cases the problem 513 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 4: with packing. If you bring all the stuff in case, 514 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 4: then you just have too much ship. 515 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: But the blow up pad is the vulnerability. Chili brought 516 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: a blow up pad and underpad. 517 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean. 518 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 5: Because I didn't I don't have a tarp like where 519 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 5: like or like a footprint to lay down like on 520 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 5: the just on the ground in between you and your 521 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 5: and your blow up mattress or blow up had. So 522 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 5: instead of just going to buy one sporadically, I just 523 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 5: I had this Accordion Nemo phone pad, the one that 524 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 5: we all used to kind of sit down on the 525 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 5: ground when we're glassing, just a full length one. 526 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: I was like, well, I'll just use that on the ground. 527 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: It's like six seven ounces or whatever it is. 528 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 5: Strive it to the bottom of my pack, like it's 529 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 5: not gonna the footprint of it's not gonna like cause 530 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 5: me to have to get a bigger bag or anything. 531 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 5: So yeah, that was kind of my thinking and it worked. 532 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 5: It worked great, And luckily Seth had like a little 533 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 5: plastic thing as well, so I could throw that down and. 534 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just kind of just like a tart if 535 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 6: not comfortable, more comfortable, yep. Yeah, I brought a little 536 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 6: chunk of before I left. It was like the last 537 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 6: thing I grabbed was just a little chunk of plastic 538 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 6: that I used to like cover my garden when it frosts. 539 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: And I threw that in. 540 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 6: I was like, ah, just in case, like I need 541 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 6: to put something under my sleeting pad or whatever. And 542 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 6: then Chile ended up grabbing me a footprint from the 543 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 6: store Janet, But so I still had that and then 544 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 6: gave it out to Chili. 545 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: Uh. What I got dialed is over the years on backpacking, 546 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: over the years I have I have pretty much eliminated 547 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: any changes of clothes extra clothes, yeh, with one exception. 548 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: I keep in a dry bag, the extra set of 549 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: bass layers, extra set of thin bass layers. I keep 550 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: the driving and like this never touched them as much 551 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: as it rained. I left them in there because it's 552 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: like I leave them in there being like if something 553 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: bad happens, I can get in my bag, which I 554 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: keep in a dry bag, I can get in my 555 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 1: bag with dry stuff at night. But I've gotten overcarrying 556 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: any kind of extra anything. Well that's not I carry 557 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: a pair of socks. I cart one pair of socks 558 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: because the worst case, you washed pair in the creek, 559 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,879 Speaker 1: put them on your back to dry. I got rid 560 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: of all that kind of junk, like, oh I have 561 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: extra pants, I might want to change my shirt. I 562 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: just I have the one thing I'm wearing, and like, 563 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: you just get used to it. It's funky, you get 564 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: over it. And I don't care any kind of extra 565 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: clothes except for those except for those lj's that I 566 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: have as an insurance policy. Or should a camera guy 567 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: forget his ljs? Well, now I know I would have 568 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: happily dipped me my extra ljs. 569 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 3: I brought an extra like mid layer, wool ool mid layer, 570 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: and I never touched it. 571 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: Yep, yep. 572 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: It's like the one thing I was like, I should 573 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 3: have just left this behind. 574 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: Because what happens when you do when you bring extra 575 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: clothes is there was mornings when I was like to myself, thinking, man, 576 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to put them clothes on, mm hmm, 577 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: But then you to put the other ones on, and 578 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: then those ones are messed up too, and then now 579 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: you just got whatever you yeah, instead of one pair 580 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: of pants that are now dry because you wore them, 581 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: now you got one wet ass pair of pants in 582 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: your backpack. It's just like I just got rid of 583 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: all that junk. I think it was the coldest it 584 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 1: could get. Have what appropriate? So I had like a 585 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: like a air wool top, synthetic hoodie, brooks Down bast 586 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: or brooks Down jacket and omen storm shelter rain jacket. 587 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: That was it. Same thing on my same thing pants, 588 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: the aarrow wool pants, a pair of pants, and then 589 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: the lightweight rain pants. 590 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 6: You mentioned brooks Down Best. I brought one of those, 591 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 6: and that's like that's a hot tip in my opinion. 592 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 6: It's like very compacts, very tiny. It's like the size 593 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 6: of a scroll, very lightly and it's like it's just 594 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 6: enough to like take the edge off and like keep 595 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 6: your core warm. It's it's a great piece of gear. 596 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,959 Speaker 6: I forgot I that kind of messed up. 597 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 5: Pro tip every when you're in the back country, don't 598 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 5: forget a spork or a spoon, because then you might 599 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 5: be left whittling one and then your buddies might come 600 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 5: up after three hours of whittling, saying, I got two 601 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 5: extra spins, really good spoon. 602 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: We were having so much fun. 603 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 6: One. 604 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I need to get my little spoon back. 605 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Well it's mine now. But that's too short. It's too short. Yeah, 606 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: get a long one, get a long spin. Oh yeah, 607 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: they make the long dogs just for eat and freeze drive. 608 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: So I have to give me, give me your give 609 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: me your impressions, man, like you're you're you're just your 610 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: general impressions. 611 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: That is like the prettiest country I've ever seen, or 612 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: as pretty as anything. It's more interesting seeing that glacier, 613 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 2: and it's like seeing we We saw more wildlife on 614 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: this trip than a bunch of stuff I never laid 615 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: eyes on. But as as far as. 616 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: What we saw for we hit all the we hit 617 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: six so we had We saw a caribou, doll sheep, 618 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: ye a moose mm hmmm, wolves, grizzly black bear, yep. 619 00:30:58,800 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: I think that's it park. 620 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you got caribou. Yeah, that was that was 621 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 2: interesting man, to get to see all that stuff, get 622 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: see that many sheep, like I feel like not that 623 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: many people get to even see those things. Yeah, that 624 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: was that was really neat to me and just being there, 625 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: being in that that kind of a environment is It's 626 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: something that you, hm, it's easy to spend a lot 627 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 2: of time like making excuses and not getting it done. Like, 628 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 2: I'm really happy that I got to go and had 629 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 2: a reason to go because it's like really reignited my 630 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: love for this stuff, just because you you just procrastinate 631 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: and put it off and then don't get back on 632 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: the horse, you know. And this was a good one, 633 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: like a really really good trip. 634 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, because you you so you were born in Oklahoma 635 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: and spent your life in Oklahoma. And I remember telling 636 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: me that at one point in time you and your 637 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: dad took took your horses and went out and you 638 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: guys did are on Western Titan hunting. 639 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we went. 640 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: We just kind of just went and did it all. 641 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he and I which my dad knows quite 642 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: a bit about about packing and uh and really about 643 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 2: hunting in general. And uh he took me up there 644 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: and showed me, taught me a whole lot and really 645 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: gave me like a love for We had a great trip. 646 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: You know, we were in the elk and we didn't 647 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 2: come home with anything, but it didn't matter, you know. 648 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: It was like we were so close, we had opportunities, 649 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 2: we were seeing stuff, and it was like it was 650 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: the wildest place I'd ever been at that point in time. 651 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: Everything just feels so, I mean, there's it's easy to 652 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 2: be hunting places that are easy to access and feel 653 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 2: like it's not authentic enough for me to feel like 654 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: I'm doing anything sometimes, you know, And when you get 655 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: back into this stuff that not a lot of people 656 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 2: get to see it, it just feels more special to me. 657 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 2: And it's just got another it's just another level and 658 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 2: more of an experience. But uh, yeah, I love this stuff, 659 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: Like I've never dreamed that I'd get to fly in 660 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 2: on a super cover, be in one ever have reason 661 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: to be in one, you know. 662 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: So it's yeah, Well, the thing I didn't know about 663 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: the thing I didn't know about you when we spoke 664 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: before and just communicated over text message and whatnot, is 665 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: I didn't know that you got into coon hunting for 666 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: a while. 667 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I was a coon hunter. That was my That's 668 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: what we did for a long time. 669 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: And so that was the kind of dogs you brought. 670 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: Up for the first dogs I really had that were 671 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: my first hunting dogs. Yeah, we had I had a 672 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: few different kinds of coonhounds. 673 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: I had some. 674 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 2: I had a pretty good plot hound, and I had 675 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 2: a couple of blue tick dogs that would tree a coon. 676 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 2: And I was, you know, I was fifteen, fourteen to 677 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: sixteen probably when I was really really into it. 678 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: So like in your high school years, you're going out 679 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: at night. 680 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, going out, man. I had two or 681 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 2: three buddies that that hunted and we'd go every night 682 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: we could. 683 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: And that was like before the quail thing. 684 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I kind of traded that for for quail hunting. 685 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: I went. 686 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 2: I had one good hunt with in front of a 687 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 2: good dog in the hills, and we we killed birds. 688 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: I think I might, I don't think I shot a 689 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 2: quail in in the timber. For a year after that 690 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 2: trying to. I mean, I had to learn how to 691 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 2: shoot because it's it's tough shooting, and I just it 692 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 2: was hard and I fell, you know, fell in love 693 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 2: with it, and I had I've still got dogs on 694 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: my place that are descendants of that dog that I 695 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 2: went on my first quail hunt. 696 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, how many dogs you keep knowing? How many bird dogs? 697 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: The bird dogs. I me and my buddy Phil, he's 698 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 2: actually training on on some right now. But I've got 699 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 2: a I got one wire haired dog that that is 700 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 2: mine that I've done everything on. And then we've got 701 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: to two pointers because I sold sold one, so just 702 00:34:58,960 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 2: some guys that needed one. 703 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 1: Did you ever get into squirrel dogging? Yeah? 704 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: I went and we had some dogs, you know. We 705 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: we did a whole lot of that, riding on like 706 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 2: horseback riding, shooting with like squirrel hunting. Yeah, training with 707 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: a dog, and we did a lot of it. It 708 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 2: was a lot of fun. We had friends that had 709 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: a one really good dog, and but I never had 710 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: I never really had any that I can think of, 711 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 2: not on purpose, you know. 712 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: And then you do use your same dogs for waterfowl hunting. 713 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 2: I have those, Yeah, I have a versatile hunting dog 714 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 2: that those draw tars, just the German bread wire hairs 715 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: are all of them will get in the water. But 716 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 2: those are specifically, you know, made to do everything. Like 717 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 2: they've been bringing them pretty tight for a long time. 718 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: You know. Everybody's been training up their dogs do now, 719 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: which kind of like bums me out but kind of 720 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: makes me jealous. Is got all these dogs now finding morels? 721 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 7: Man? 722 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 3: Now? 723 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: How did they? 724 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 2: Yeah that that's interesting. 725 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: These little tin looks like a chew tin with a 726 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: bunch of holes in it. Put some morals in there. 727 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 2: So you want to want a dog on that you 728 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: don't want. 729 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: You don't want to I wish it was. It's like 730 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: just yet another thing that demystifies the morale. But it's 731 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: yet another thing to demystifies the moral, like them learning 732 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: to cultivate morels should be illegal, should be illegal to 733 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 1: find them with a dog. But since it's not now 734 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 1: killing me that I don't have one of them dogs. 735 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 1: My brother Danny went out hunting morels and he said 736 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,479 Speaker 1: they filled a bucket with a dog. And he says, dude, 737 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 1: if that while dog wasn't there, it would have been, 738 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: like you, it'd have been like a two or three 739 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: it would have been a two or three morel day. Really, yeah, 740 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: there's probably he's a big mushroom hunter, he said. It 741 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 1: would have been yet another two or three morell search. 742 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: He said, the dog is like bing bing bing bing. 743 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 2: You know, there's a bunch of gunshot dogs that you 744 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: could probably turn into a morale dog. That's probably a 745 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 2: good job for a bunch of sensitive dogs. 746 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if my dumb little dog. 747 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: Probably I'll take that out with my kids. 748 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 3: It's nice how you talked about it wouldn't do shit 749 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: for you. 750 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: Well, here's what the dog does do. Like, it finds. 751 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 1: That dog is very good at finding red squirrels, and 752 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 1: once it finds one and sees it, it's not leaving. 753 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: But it doesn't notify you that it found one. So 754 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: the moral dog that my brother Danny was out with 755 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: doesn't notify you that it found a morele It just 756 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: stops doing anything and it stays there. He said, you 757 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: can probably teach it the bark. I don't know. I 758 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 1: don't know if you can teach dogs to bark. It's hard. 759 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: But he said, that dog just finds morel after morale, 760 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: after Morrell, after morell. That's cool, I know, I kind of. 761 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: It's like, but then you're keeping a dog for fifty weeks, 762 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: for two weeks of action. 763 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 2: We just like to have a second job. 764 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: Some people just like having a dog because where are 765 00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: gonna put it the rest of the time. Where you 766 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,319 Speaker 1: gonna keep it the fifty weeks out of the year, 767 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: you're not hunting on your couch. So tell me, tell 768 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: me what's going on. Tell me what give me some, 769 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 1: Give everybody some. Turnpike Troubadours. 770 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 2: We put out a record which was kind of a 771 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 2: quick turnaround for us. We put out a record in April. 772 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: What makes a quick turnaround less than two years, you know, 773 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: or sometimes we've gone like six or seven years between records. 774 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: So that that's pretty speedy, very quick. I was surprised. 775 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: So when you guys made this album, I'm surprised that 776 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: you go in and you kind of like it's like 777 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: a very intense two weeks and you come in like 778 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 1: you got your ideas and your basics, but you're really 779 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: like building it over two weeks. 780 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a got a pretty good shell of 781 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 2: a song and like an idea and exactly. You know, 782 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: sometimes I'll have a lot of lyrics and just be 783 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 2: sort of trimming them and just editing. And then sometimes 784 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 2: it's I come because like sometimes in those high pressure situations, 785 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 2: if you don't have to come up with just tons 786 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 2: of material door you're just buried in like feeling like 787 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 2: you're not gonna make it, you can come up with 788 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: one idea and complete it really quickly and it's a 789 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,800 Speaker 2: good you know, it has been in the past for 790 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 2: me a good, good idea, like a good song. So yeah, 791 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 2: we we went in with just like iPhone recordings of 792 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 2: eighty percent of it, ninety percent of it, and would 793 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 2: just walk in the studio and flesh it out and 794 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 2: play it, you know, and hopefully I didn't have to 795 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 2: sing it that day so I could. I'd sing like 796 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 2: a rough track or hum of verse or whatever, and 797 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: then I go back and make sure that the lyrics 798 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 2: were exactly how I wanted them. 799 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: And then I had to ask you about this till now. 800 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 1: I was kind of wait until now about the you'd 801 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,920 Speaker 1: contact me at one point and you were looking for 802 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 1: a picture of a deer in velvet for the album 803 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: called Yeah. I never said why. 804 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so there's like there are some animal 805 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,879 Speaker 2: images in that song it's called on the Red River, 806 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 2: and uh, I thought we were looking for themes for 807 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 2: for artwork while we were in the studio, and I thought, well, 808 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: what the hell, you know, so let's just put these 809 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 2: images up. And like I mentioned a kelpie dog in 810 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 2: that song, which is kind of a not the most 811 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: well known animal in the world, and uh so I thought, well, 812 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 2: I'll put one on the cover so when people. 813 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: Ask what it is, it's easy. It's an easy restaur 814 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: on the cover. 815 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I thought, well, I'll build off that, 816 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 2: you know, and we've so we used they from that 817 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: that stuff and uh put it put it there in 818 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 2: sort of like an old like kind of like the 819 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 2: Wild America like filter on it. It looks like, yeah, 820 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 2: it looks like with Marty Stafford stuff. 821 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it. Yeah, and then that's been Uh, 822 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: that's out. Everybody can go check it out. And you 823 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: guys are gonna start touring soon. 824 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll go on like a real tour. We're gonna 825 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 2: do some stuff in in the UK and then we 826 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 2: come back over here and we do. I want to 827 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 2: say it's I told you it was more date sentators. 828 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: I think it's twenty something dates all over the US. 829 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: So so if people want to come check you. 830 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 2: Out, yeah, should it should be something to see. 831 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: Dude, I'm gonna make one of them. I'm gonna make 832 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: one of those dates work and come out. Hell. So 833 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 1: my wife's dying to come see you guys. It'll be 834 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: fun and I'll go along. So I'm gonna fly out 835 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: and check out one of the shows. 836 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: Try to let you know what's the ones that I know, 837 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 2: are best sonically or best to hang out in. 838 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't want to catch you. You got 839 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: like some town with a bunch of cousins and stuff 840 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: in it. I need to I need to find a 841 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: time when there's no one gonna be cousins. Cousins allowed. Yeah, man, 842 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: I want to come see it bad. So you guys 843 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: are going to Europe and sometimes you tour and you're 844 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 1: with other bands, but your tour is gonna be like 845 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: a Turnpike Troubadoor tour. This will be our headline headline tour. Yeah, 846 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 1: when you go to Europe, you you do. You're part 847 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: of a broader thing. 848 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do a few headline and bar shows over there, 849 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 2: and then we'll be opening for Zach Bryan, who's draws 850 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 2: huge over there. 851 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: Got it? And you brought like a ukulele with you. 852 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 2: No, it's an old cool cowboy guitar, so like a 853 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 2: Marty Robbins's. It's a Martin guitar. It's pretty cool. 854 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, tell me about that, man. 855 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 2: It's like a forties model Martin that a guy that 856 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 2: works with me named Sherman had this guitar and he said, hey, 857 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 2: you should start using that because it's easy, easy to 858 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 2: fly with. And then he wound up selling to me 859 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 2: that it's a I think Marty Robbins played one of 860 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 2: these on some. 861 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,280 Speaker 1: Of those recordings, so it's traveling guitar. 862 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just when I take it can take 863 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 2: everywhere because it's so small. 864 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: God, now you're gonna play something. Yeah, you're gonna play 865 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: the Red River. 866 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 4: I think so, I think that would be And I 867 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 4: gotta make uh move camera. 868 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: Before you start. I tell you something funny. I've walked 869 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: next to a million dudes singing a million songs out 870 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: in the woods. It was so weird to hear dudes 871 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,919 Speaker 1: singing a song. It was like like a like really 872 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: like a singer because I'm always like, Y need your money. Yeah, 873 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: there's a lot of that that goes on these shoots. 874 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: You're like, it should be nice to have a real 875 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 1: singer here. I was like, take it away, Evan, I'll 876 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 1: take a break for an hour. You sing us a 877 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 1: little something. 878 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 7: And there's a mid July white tell in velvet read 879 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 7: as your old Chevrolet. And I was sixteen when yourected 880 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 7: and when we're lucky both walked away. You could say 881 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 7: were scrape out a living. 882 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: The work for which you've been born. 883 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 7: You were quick with a live fan forgiving, and tied 884 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 7: hard and fast to the horns. We had kelpies and 885 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 7: good quarter horses. We had a week pasture yearlings tied down. 886 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:03,919 Speaker 7: You learned pain is the prize, serve admission. You're never 887 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 7: done paying it. 888 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 2: Down back on the Red River. 889 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 3: Not hard to. 890 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:21,799 Speaker 7: Remember when you Daddy would never get off. I saw 891 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 7: the world from the bone your shoulders. 892 00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:27,640 Speaker 2: I remember you. 893 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 7: When you live like we do, Death doesly with the 894 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 7: beastbart On days off could help out our neighbors, for 895 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 7: we worked and sweated for free, and you learned every 896 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 7: dream with your labor. 897 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 2: And I'd sleep on your front seat. 898 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 7: And you'd call it cure for a snake bite. You 899 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:15,400 Speaker 7: reach for fifth old crowl Some medicine should get your 900 00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 7: head right when the symptoms to start to show. Back 901 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 7: on the Red River, not hard to remember when you 902 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 7: Daddy would never get old. L saw world from the. 903 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 2: Bone your shoulders. I remember the view. 904 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 7: When you live like we do, death does leave with 905 00:46:49,719 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 7: the best party. How the cars lined up down the 906 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 7: driveway haven't really been gone two years night beyond my 907 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 7: third On a good day down the last bottle. It's 908 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:50,760 Speaker 7: Saturday started without you, and I knew before. 909 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: I got the car. 910 00:47:54,120 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 7: Alaridge. July bucks are in Vail. I tell you all 911 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 7: abouttle this fall from back on the Red River. 912 00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 5: Not hard to. 913 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:19,480 Speaker 7: Remember when your taddy would never get off lie solt 914 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 7: world from my bone, your shoulders, I remember. 915 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 4: You when you live like we do. 916 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 7: Death doesn't me with the best party. You gotta look 917 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 7: at the world from my bone, your shoulders, and I 918 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:48,680 Speaker 7: remember the view when you live like we do. Death 919 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,360 Speaker 7: doesn't me with the best party. 920 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 1: All right, man, it's good, I thinks soon, all right, 921 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: catch them when they head out on the road Turnpike. 922 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: Troubadour is heading out when I think. 923 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 2: In July, it's in July. 924 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: Coming up, Yeah, coming up. Okay. Oh, there's the thing 925 00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta do my own little deal here. 926 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 1: Oh so Season three This is hot from Krinn. Season 927 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,239 Speaker 1: three of our kids podcasts, Meet Eater Kids is out. 928 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: So if you don't remember the way Meet Eater Kids 929 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,360 Speaker 1: podcast works, it's a three acts show. There's like a history, lesson, wildlife, 930 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 1: lesson whatever comes out in the beginning. I've done them. 931 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: Clay's doing around right now. So it's like uh history 932 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 1: and wildlife. According to Clay, Act two is for your kids. 933 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,880 Speaker 1: We start building that we find animals that have like 934 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 1: a wide, wide array of vocalizations, and we start laying 935 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,879 Speaker 1: in the vocalizations, like real recordings of real animals doing vocalizations, 936 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: and we start giving clues until you build up to 937 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: where kids guess them. So if you kids are real smart, 938 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: he'll guess it right away. If you needs help, he'll 939 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: take them while to guests, you can tell it's a 940 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: way to suss out how well are you kids doing? 941 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,440 Speaker 1: In is that outdoor education? Then three it's kids Trivia, 942 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,800 Speaker 1: So kids are gang of kids doing kids trivia. The 943 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:17,279 Speaker 1: objective is to for them to work together to work 944 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: up a pot of money which goes to a conservation 945 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,840 Speaker 1: outdoor conservation group that benefits kids. So that that's the 946 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 1: kids podcast. Season three is out now. The season dropped 947 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: on June thirty. You can get episode two out today, 948 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,919 Speaker 1: so go listen and subscribe on the new Meat Eater 949 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: Kids podcast feed and then go buy your tickets to 950 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: go see Turnpike Troubadors. Now, when you get your bear 951 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,760 Speaker 1: rug back, you can have that all laid out on stage. 952 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:44,880 Speaker 1: Is it gonna tour with you. 953 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,319 Speaker 2: It's too nice to tick on the road. 954 00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,840 Speaker 1: Okay, it's not on the road, so when you go, 955 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: don't be surprised. You don't see a new bear rug 956 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he ain't got one. Having foulker Turnpike. Thanks 957 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: going on the show Man. Thanks having us, get your gear, 958 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: your pack right, and uh blow your air mattress up 959 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: but don't pop it. Thanks again,