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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour of Playing Buck kicks off right now. Just

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Speaker 2: a note coming up at the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 2: Bill O'Reilly will be with us and we'll be talking

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Speaker 2: to him about the latest from the Biden crime family,

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Speaker 2: and also twenty twenty four in general, some back and

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Speaker 2: forth between the Trump and DeSantis camps in the last

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Speaker 2: twenty four hours, including Trump going on truth social and

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Speaker 2: venting his frustration, shall we say, with the Fox News,

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Speaker 2: among other things, and obviously attacking Ron DeSantis and all

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Speaker 2: of that. We'll get into some of those political discussions

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Speaker 2: here coming up in a bit, But first, I just

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Speaker 2: I wanted to spend a few minutes here on what's

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Speaker 2: going on in NYC.

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Speaker 3: In New York City, my hometown. You might have seen

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Speaker 3: some of.

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Speaker 1: The foot of this.

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Speaker 3: There are long lines of illegal aliens.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because everything now says asylum seeker, to the

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Speaker 2: point where if you do a search Clay, as I did,

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure I had the most up

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Speaker 2: to date reporting on this one this morning. You do

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Speaker 2: a search for illegal aliens New York City, nothing comes up.

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Speaker 2: The Orwellian language change has been successful to the point

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Speaker 2: where you go into Google, you're trying to find illegal

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Speaker 2: aliens ny, Hey, you gotta look for it. Hard doesn't

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Speaker 2: show up. You type in asylum seekers and it shows

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Speaker 2: up right away. If you type a type in undocumented,

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Speaker 2: you'll get far more hits non citizens. That's another one

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Speaker 2: they're going to start using more and more. Now that

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Speaker 2: is that is intentional. I mean, well, it's all intentionally dishonest,

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Speaker 2: but that one is just nonsensical because that's treating somebody

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Speaker 2: who shows up and wants to live here forever after

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Speaker 2: crossing illegally in the country the same way that you

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Speaker 2: know a person who is here on a visa for

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Speaker 2: a week to go shopping in.

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Speaker 1: New York City.

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Speaker 2: They're both non citizens. Like, what doesn't tell you anything

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Speaker 2: about the situation?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 2: You know, there was a bill in Chicago that it's

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Speaker 2: making its wayward being law where they're going to allow

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Speaker 2: legal aliens to be police officers, which I think is

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Speaker 2: a tremendous abuse of the law. If someone's in violation

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Speaker 2: of federal law being here, how could they be in

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Speaker 2: a position to give you a speeding ticket?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 2: This is the kind of world the Democrats are creating

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Speaker 2: for all of us. But back to New York City

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Speaker 2: for a second. Here, Clay, the Roosevelt Hotel in Midtown

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Speaker 2: Manhattan has a very long line of people that are

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Speaker 2: lying in the streets. They're sleeping in the streets, and

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Speaker 2: the city is supposed to be have to house. The mayor,

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Speaker 2: Eric Adams is saying, there's no more room. We can't

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Speaker 2: do this. The city has fifty thousand migrants in uh

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Speaker 2: that it is caring for now. These are illegal aliens

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Speaker 2: they're calling the migrants. Ninety three thousand have come through

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Speaker 2: the city's intake system in the last few months. So

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Speaker 2: four billion, Clay, four billion dollars now, it was two

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Speaker 2: the City of New York is going to pay. These

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Speaker 2: are welfare cases, everybody.

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Speaker 5: What we've been told is, oh, a nation of immigrants.

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Speaker 5: People are going to show up. They're going to do

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Speaker 5: the jobs Americans won't do. They're more law abody, and

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Speaker 5: they'll contribute to the economy. Who else is going to

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Speaker 5: pay for your Social Security taxes? Blah blah, All this

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Speaker 5: stuff lies.

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Speaker 2: This is a massive fraudulent welfare catastrophe.

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Speaker 1: Unfolding New York City. This is why people are.

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Speaker 2: Paying taxes so much that they got to leave. Speaking

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Speaker 2: from experience, it's crazy, Clay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: And what I would add on this, Buck is, don't

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Speaker 6: forget Mayor Eric Adams who bragged about how they wanted

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Speaker 6: all of these illegal immigrants in New York City. As

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Speaker 6: we talked about last week, I believe with Texas Governor

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Speaker 6: that the city cannot handle the number of illegal immigrants

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Speaker 6: I would say is, think about this in the context

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Speaker 6: This is a big reason why, too. I think you're

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Speaker 6: seeing the overall Hispanic vote swing so substantially towards Donald

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Speaker 6: because we're all being sold to Bill of goods, We're

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Speaker 6: all being sold to lie. And I would love have

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Speaker 6: you ever heard a Democrat ask this question, if America

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Speaker 6: people willing to die to get here?

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Speaker 1: You ever hear.

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Speaker 6: Anybody ask that question when Eric Adams or AOC or

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Speaker 6: Muriel Bowser, the mayor of d C, or the new

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Speaker 6: the America is a fundamentally racist place.

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Speaker 1: Corey Bush, right, this idiot congresswoman.

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Speaker 6: From Missouri, Rashida talib all of these different people, elon

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Speaker 6: omar If America is such an awful place and it's

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Speaker 6: so systemically racist, Nicole, was it Hannah Smith or whatever?

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Speaker 6: The woman who did the sixteen nineteen project? Why are

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Speaker 6: they never asked? Wouldn't that be a really good question? Hey,

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Speaker 6: I understand you think America is systemically racist. Do you

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Speaker 6: think it's Cole Hannah Jones? Now, Cole Hanna Jones?

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Speaker 1: My apologies? How come they never get asked?

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Speaker 4: Buck?

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Speaker 6: Why are so many black and brown people willing to die?

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Speaker 2: Do you want me to answer this from the left

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Speaker 2: wing perspective, because I actually I know what they'll say

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Speaker 2: saying They would say they say that, well, it's because

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Speaker 2: of America has accumulated so much well through the exploitation

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Speaker 2: it is the duty of America now to redistribute that

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Speaker 2: wealth to minorities, even if they've just arrived here. Even

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Speaker 2: they just got here.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I think that's just saying I think

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Speaker 2: that's a horrible line of argument, But I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: that is how they would respond to.

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Speaker 6: Well, that is an argument, okay, but it doesn't explain

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Speaker 6: why they would be willing to die to come here, right.

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Speaker 2: Because it's the richest country with now pretty much the

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Speaker 6: It is the richest country. But if it were truly

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Speaker 6: a racist country, is what I'm saying. I understand why

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Speaker 6: their argument would be, we need to provide benefits here.

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Speaker 6: But if America were truly racist, right, you would say,

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Speaker 6: why would I leave Mexico, Why would I leave Venezuela.

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Speaker 6: Why would I leave an African country and go to

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Speaker 6: the supremely racist country of the United States. All of

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Speaker 6: that America is racist, because if you really thought that

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Speaker 6: And yes, I understand the argument of the leftist, which

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Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is the people who are coming

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Speaker 6: recent immigrants, Cubans, Venezuelan's legal immigrants, who are overwhelmingly rejecting

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Speaker 6: the Democrat Party because the same reason buck when you

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Speaker 6: felt that the attack on DeSantis was an attack on

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Speaker 6: you to move to Florida, those people feel like they're

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Speaker 6: being attacked, like, wait, I came here because of America's

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, the left wing, you know, the

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Speaker 2: and they'll deal with the racism to get those opportunities.

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Speaker 2: I've seen this, I've had this debate with Libs on

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Speaker 1: That's what they'll say.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a garbage argument, but I'm just saying

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Speaker 2: that is the response that they have to it. I

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Speaker 2: also know Claiy come with this from the perspective of

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Speaker 2: I don't even really care that much because we have

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Speaker 2: and we are all supposed to be held to the law.

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Speaker 1: And we are supposed to have a system.

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Speaker 2: We're supposed to have an immigration system that benefits the

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Speaker 2: What people who are not Americans want and their desires

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Speaker 2: secondary consideration to what do the American people want. And

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Speaker 2: part of the problem here is whatever we vote for

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Speaker 2: for as a population, which is always in recent years,

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Speaker 2: stricter immigration, the laws of the border, more border security.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when it's put to the people, why.

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Speaker 2: Did Donald Trump win in twenty sixteen, he won primarily

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Speaker 2: is an economic argument. These things are very much tied in.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I'm pointing out the four billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: That is money that the city of New York is

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Speaker 2: New York is a very diverse place, right. This is

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Speaker 2: you know, the tax is being paid by every small

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Speaker 2: They're not asylum seekers. They're not asylum seekers. None of

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Speaker 6: And that's why to me, ultimately this comes back to

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Speaker 6: the world. Okay, second part is buck and I would

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Speaker 6: build on this. This is even more frustrating. A lot

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Speaker 6: of those people are going to have kids that immediately

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Speaker 6: become American citizens. And then in addition to what you're

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Speaker 6: kids who are American citizens for years to come, which

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Speaker 6: We've got to end birthright citizenship. And again, there are

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Speaker 6: two types of birthright citizenship. One is if you are

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Speaker 6: out there would agree your child should be an American citizen. Okay,

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Speaker 6: no matter where you're living around the world. I think

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Speaker 6: most people overwhelmingly agree with that. But this idea that you,

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Speaker 6: is fundamentally the antithesis of what citizenship represents in most

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Speaker 6: is rewarded and generation. You bring up a critical point

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Speaker 6: here about the asylum seekers.

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Speaker 4: Sure. Well, the democratic power structure in Washington, which features

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Speaker 4: White House personnel is so Fatim mcgraves, we believe is

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Speaker 4: going back and forth because you can't put anything in writing,

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Speaker 4: it'll be subpoened down the road, and you make can't

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Speaker 4: make phone calls because they're taped when they go into

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Speaker 4: the White House. So she's a courier and her husband,

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Speaker 4: Matthew Graves, his office is in the same proximity to

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Speaker 4: Mereric Garland. So those two are working together and they're

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Speaker 4: not gonna stop. They're gonna indict Trump on everything that

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Speaker 4: can possibly indict them on. It doesn't matter whether they

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Speaker 4: get a conviction. What they want is trial dates that

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Speaker 4: inhibit his campaign. So in order to stop some of

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Speaker 4: that madness, Trump's gonna have to make a deal to

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Speaker 4: plead guilty to some low level beef that won't amount

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Speaker 4: to any jail time or anything. But he doesn't want

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Speaker 4: to go in. If a federal judges you got to

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Speaker 4: show up at this point for the trial, he's got

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Speaker 4: to show up at this point for the trial, and

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Speaker 4: they'll try to make it impossible for him to have

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Speaker 4: a consistent campaign. They'll keep throwing those trial dates up.

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Speaker 4: The first one we have now is in December. So

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Speaker 4: I believe that the Trump lawyers will convince him. And

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Speaker 4: because nobody on his side believes any of this anyway,

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Speaker 4: poll came out today, ninety one percent of Fox News

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Speaker 4: viewers don't think he did anything wrong. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: so it doesn't matter what they do now, he's inoculated.

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Speaker 6: So this is fascinating, Bill, because you know Donald Trump

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Speaker 6: very very well. You've done a lot of events with

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Speaker 6: him over the years. Both Buck and myself talking off air,

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Speaker 6: just said, man, we can't see Trump ever agreeing to

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Speaker 6: plead to anything because his brand is I've done absolutely

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Speaker 6: nothing wrong. You actually think that he will?

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Speaker 1: If so?

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Speaker 6: And I want to build on this. I believe you

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Speaker 6: have been on my team here in saying Joe Biden's

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Speaker 6: not going to run. Do you still think that Biden

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Speaker 6: is not going to run? Or what is the Democrat

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Speaker 6: play in there?

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Speaker 4: Uh? The plan is to get someone else And what

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Speaker 4: time frame though?

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Speaker 1: When does that need to happen to you?

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Speaker 4: My guess, and it's a guest, and I don't like

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Speaker 4: to speculate, is that Biden will be gone by Christmas,

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Speaker 4: because the Democrats have to then go into the primary season,

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Speaker 4: so they desperately want Michelle Obama to run. Michelle is

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Speaker 4: not convinced. They're up there in Martha's vineyard now and

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Speaker 4: all kinds of high level meetings. I mean, if you

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Speaker 4: guys should do your show on the ferry from What's

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Speaker 4: hold Over to Martha's viney, you should just load up

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Speaker 4: and do your and you'll see some pretty interesting characters

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Speaker 4: on that ferry. So in lieu of that, then they

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Speaker 4: got to decide where I want to take a chance

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Speaker 4: on Gavin Newsom, who's got all kinds of problems in California.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's not it's not a person that would

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Speaker 4: persuade a lot of independence to go Democrat. Amy Klobeish

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Speaker 4: are also in the mix. So the Democrats they don't

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Speaker 4: know what to do. They don't know. But the reason

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Speaker 4: I think that Biden won't even show up in January

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Speaker 4: for his you know, in the Oval office, is because

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Speaker 4: this Hunter Biden stuff is going to lead to impeachment

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Speaker 4: maybe even charges. I mean, there's no doubt that Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden sold influence. There's no doubt that Hunter Biden did

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Speaker 4: not register on the Foreign Alien Business Act. So they're

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Speaker 4: going to hit him what they have to hit him

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Speaker 4: with that because Maniford went to jail for two years

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Speaker 4: for it same thing, and Hunter Biden made a lot

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Speaker 4: more money than Manaford did.

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Speaker 2: Bill, what do you think about the promise that has

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Speaker 2: been made by this White House that under no circumstances

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Speaker 2: will Joe Biden part in his son.

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Speaker 4: You know the promises from the Biden White House about

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Speaker 4: they're worth as much as MSNBC programming. So you just

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Speaker 4: make the call. And one thing about Trump, he doesn't

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Speaker 4: want to plead guilty to anything. I mean, if you

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Speaker 4: were to talk to him today, I'm never going to

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Speaker 4: do it. But the strategy would be just to go

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Speaker 4: out and plead the guilty in and say, look, I

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Speaker 4: had to do it if I want to run, if

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Speaker 4: I want to have a campaign, I had to do it,

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Speaker 4: and then all of his people will go yeah, right,

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Speaker 4: we understand. So really there isn't a downside for him

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Speaker 4: doing that, and there may be a huge upside.

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Speaker 1: What's the payoff for Democrats allowing him to plea.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's not a matter of allowing, it's a matter

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Speaker 4: of that his attorneys will go in and say we'll

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Speaker 4: plead guilty to this, and if you don't take the deal,

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Speaker 4: we're going to make it public because you've taken a

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Speaker 4: Hunter Biden deal that was ridiculous. And you know how

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Speaker 4: much can mirror Garland absorb. But he's going to be

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Speaker 4: impeached by the way, the attorney general. First time in

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Speaker 4: the history of this country that attorney general will be impeachable.

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Speaker 4: Garland is a lock for impeachment. That'll happened in October

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Speaker 4: because he it's no longer you know, any two sides

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Speaker 4: to the story. I mean, the judge, the federal judges

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Speaker 4: blue Mary Garland right out of the water.

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Speaker 2: So do you think Bill that the Democrat calculation here becomes,

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Speaker 2: if they can just get Trump to to your what

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Speaker 2: you're saying about about a plea deal, then he is

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Speaker 2: technically and officially a felon right or or at least

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Speaker 2: that they would say he's or whatever whatever convicted of

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Speaker 2: some crime. He's a he's a criminal at that point.

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Speaker 2: And so then the Democrats run with some version of

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, some version of the criminal president

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Speaker 2: YadA YadA is that is that basically the play.

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Speaker 4: But so what nobody believes it I mean.

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Speaker 1: Well, then why would they do it? Though?

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Speaker 2: That's what I don't know that. I don't think they're

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Speaker 2: going to offer him a deal. Bill, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: be honest with you. I don't see why they offer

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Speaker 2: him a deal. What's the You can't force several prosecutors

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Speaker 2: to get a deal if.

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Speaker 4: His attorneys go out and say, look, we're willing to

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Speaker 4: plead guilty to this, but this is a political persecution here,

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Speaker 4: and they're using the prosecutorial powers of the Justice Department,

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Speaker 4: and they won't take a plea when they took a

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Speaker 4: plea with Hunter Biden to protect his father Joe. I mean,

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Speaker 4: this blows up everything I think.

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Speaker 1: I think this DOJ doesn't care. I think that's the problem.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, but.

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Speaker 4: If Merrick Garland's impeached, all right, I mean, it's it.

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Speaker 4: What is going to happen in the fall, I tell

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Speaker 4: all my viewers and listeners on the No Spin News

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Speaker 4: and you can get that on Billorelly dot com, is

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Speaker 4: that in the fall, this whole country is going to

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Speaker 4: change dramatically. It's like Oppenheimer, You're gonna have atomic bombs everywhere.

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Speaker 4: Boom boom boom, boom boom, and there's not going to

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Speaker 4: be any semblance of what we have now on August.

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Speaker 6: First, Bill, what do you think? Last question for you?

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Speaker 6: You said you think that Democrats are trying to get

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Speaker 6: miss Obama to run. How do you think Trump would

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Speaker 6: think about running against Michelle Obama as opposed to Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Michelle Obama much tougher for Trump.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Michelle opens sixty forty. All right, Trump's beating Biden now

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Speaker 4: by a little bit. But Michelle Obama is so popular

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Speaker 4: among the minority groups and the women groups and all

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Speaker 4: of that mobilizes them. And then Trump, you know, Michelle

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Speaker 4: was going to get attacked, there's no doubt about it,

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Speaker 4: because she's just pretty inflammatory racial things in the past.

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Speaker 4: She has no experience. But then you're bringing Barack back.

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Speaker 4: So it's really like, you know, Donald Trump's run against

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Speaker 4: both Michelle and Barack and you can imagine how the media.

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Speaker 4: My god, I mean, they'll canonize her. So Trump is

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Speaker 4: far better off run against the phantom of Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: But Michelle might not do it. That's not a lock.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't really want to put herself through that. I

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Speaker 4: believe I could be wrong.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, they got a nice house and the vineyard

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Speaker 2: at a bunch of other places, you know, right, they

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Speaker 2: got a lot of money.

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Speaker 6: It's yeah, Bill, I'm down at the Atlanta Braves watching

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Speaker 6: show Heyo Tani play right now. They're playing the Angels.

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Speaker 6: This is a show Heyo tani like performance by you.

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Speaker 6: If you hit on this stuff on August first. So

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Speaker 6: we're flagging all of these all of these predictions, and

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Speaker 6: if you hit, it's more than Babe calling a shot.

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Speaker 4: All right, but remember I have the witches in my corner.

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Speaker 2: Here's a come out bill because we're gonna talk you

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Speaker 2: more about that.

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Speaker 4: September twenty sixth, Abuse the garious book you've ever ever read.

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Speaker 4: And elements of the Exorcist are in this book, so

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Speaker 4: you can get it. You can order it in advance

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Speaker 4: to get it first. And the killing the the witches

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Speaker 4: are on my side. And so I know I've got

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Speaker 4: stuff coming in here in the spirit world.

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Speaker 1: Well good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna need all that. I hope we could

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Speaker 2: get to win this one. Bill, thanks so much for

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Speaker 2: being with us, guys. Go to Billeriley dot.

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Speaker 4: Com here guys and call me any time like being

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Speaker 4: on your show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you always appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Dude, Uncle Bill coming through man big calling big shots,

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Speaker 2: Clay call him big shots here in the future. Look,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you right now, we might have to

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Speaker 2: We talked about putting up a prediction board. We might

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Speaker 2: have to do like some kind of stake bets or

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Speaker 2: something with Bill, because I do I don't think that

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Speaker 2: it's even the Trump's lawyer. I just don't think they're

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Speaker 2: gonna offer them a plea deal. Why would they off

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Speaker 2: from a plea deal that lets him I mean that

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Speaker 2: doesn't involve jail time.

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Speaker 1: Ball.

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Speaker 2: They'll be lighting everything on fire, literally lighting everything on fire.

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Speaker 6: Welcome Back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show, I said it, Bill,

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Speaker 6: O'Reilly call in a lot of shots there. Buck, Let's

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Speaker 6: I just don't see any way possible that any kind

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Speaker 6: of plea agreement could happen in the Trump federal cases

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Speaker 6: as we wait theoretically for a DC indictment to come down.

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Speaker 6: I don't see any way that the Merrick Garland Department

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Speaker 6: of Justice would let Trump plea I also, Buck don't

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Speaker 6: see any way that Trump would plea It seems to

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Speaker 6: going to be decided by the twenty twenty four election

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Speaker 6: as well. Who goes to prison, what charges are brought,

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Speaker 6: all of it, unfortunately, based on the precedent now being

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Speaker 6: set by the Biden Department of Justice, going to be

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Speaker 6: determined by who wins twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 2: You know, I brought this up, and I think it's

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Speaker 2: I think it's uh, this is where we're heading. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they started it, man, you know this, I know that

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Speaker 2: seems really simple. But Hillary, Hillary could have gone away.

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Speaker 1: Never mind Bill, we could talk about that too.

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Speaker 2: But Hillary could have gone away if if Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: decided he was gonna have his DJ play rouff. And

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Speaker 2: we all know now this whole separate DJ. It's not reality.

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Speaker 2: There isn't There is no unaccountable DJ. That's not a thing,

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Speaker 2: not really. And so he decided to for the benefit

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Speaker 2: of the country, for the you know, for the best

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Speaker 2: injuries of the country, let the Hillary thing slide, and

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Speaker 2: now look where we are. Donald Trump's not even president.

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Speaker 2: They're going after him. They're trying to stop him from

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Speaker 2: running again. And I just think though, on the on

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Speaker 2: the plea deal, there's no benefit to Trump to play.

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Speaker 2: You know, why would he take a plea? First of all,

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Speaker 2: I think he doesn't believe a jury will convict him,

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Speaker 2: especially in the South Florida thing. And I think he's right,

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Speaker 2: might be might be a hung jury, but I think

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Speaker 2: a jury will not convict him. And I think that

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Speaker 2: because people understand, like, you're gonna send a we send

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Speaker 2: the next president of the country to prison for what exactly?

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Speaker 2: Like they still for obstruction. Come on, and the Feds

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Speaker 2: on the other side of this, they're not gonna let

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Speaker 2: him walk with a misdemeanor guilty plea, Like what's the

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Speaker 2: point of that. They're gonna give m a speeding ticket?

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Speaker 2: No way, I don't say that at all.

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Speaker 6: So holding over his head the possibility that he could

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Speaker 6: be president from prison. It's an absurd possibility, but they

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Speaker 6: want that in the back of voters' minds when the

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Speaker 6: polls get opened and people start voting in October of

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Speaker 6: next year.

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Speaker 2: If I had told you a year ago, Clay, and

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Speaker 2: we can go back. We were talking to these things

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Speaker 2: when mar Laga documents happened, that Trump would be facing

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Speaker 2: already two and likely four indictments, criminal indictments, people would

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Speaker 2: have said, that's insane. Yeah, here, we are welcome to

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Speaker 2: crazy Town. Everybody population, all of us, and not

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Speaker 6: Only that Buck that Trump would be surging as a

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Speaker 6: result too,