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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. On the podcast, we

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Speaker 1: talk a lot about health and advocating for yourself and

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Speaker 1: what it means when you go to a hospital. Having

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Speaker 1: been a cancer survivor myself, I know that I went

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Speaker 1: to multiple different places before I found the care that

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Speaker 1: I think more so when it's our child and we

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Speaker 1: feel like there needs to be an immediate solution for

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Speaker 1: whatever is going on. In Texas. Recently, we found that

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Speaker 1: one of the hospitals there was performing surgeries on kids

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Speaker 1: that were presenting as transgender, and we're talking about miners

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Speaker 1: who were having permanent changes to their body. Well, that

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Speaker 1: was exposed, but there's still some stuff going on down there,

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Speaker 1: and I just thought it would be best to bring

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Speaker 1: in an expert who's been following this story, so we

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Speaker 1: have Caroline Downy with us. She is a National Review

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Speaker 1: staff writer and Logo's fellow with the Manhattan Institute. Caroline,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely so you've been following this story with Texas Children's Hospital.

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Speaker 1: I think it's kind of hard for us to understand

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Speaker 1: that these hospitals were kind of in secret performing these operations.

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Speaker 1: We didn't even really know about it, and then ultimately

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Speaker 1: they ended up having to stop them, isn't that right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what we had in the case of Texas

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Speaker 3: Children's Hospital was essentially a covert child sexchange regiment that

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Speaker 3: they were conducting in the dark after they had already

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Speaker 3: said they would adhere to Attorney General Ken Paxton's directive

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Speaker 3: that basically designated these surgeries hormone therapy as child abuse,

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Speaker 3: which is a very accurate way to describe them, because,

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Speaker 3: like you said, there is long term, permanent damage caused

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Speaker 3: to these children when they choose to do these interventions,

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Speaker 3: some of which we haven't even discovered yet. But the

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Speaker 3: evidence is really overwhelming at this point. And now we

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Speaker 3: have so much anecdotal evidence alone with de transitioners recounting

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Speaker 3: not just their regret, but how the decisions that they

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Speaker 3: made when they were kids. They were essentially pressured by

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Speaker 3: their bodies reconstructed. And a lot of them are infertile

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Speaker 3: now a lot of them are are struggling with sexual function.

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Speaker 3: Their quality of life has dramatically decreased, which is contradicting

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Speaker 3: the assertion of the gender lobby that you know, these

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Speaker 3: medical interventions will lead to better mental health and will

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Speaker 3: lead to you know, just a general you know, improvement

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Speaker 3: in mood and life would In fact, for these cases,

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Speaker 3: the exact opposite is true. And so Texas Children's Hospitals

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Speaker 3: it's really the biggest scandal because they are dedicated to

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Speaker 3: children's health and welfare, and they are sworn, all of

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Speaker 3: the doctors aren't to do no harm. They have the

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Speaker 3: Hippocratic oath that underlines that is the platform on which

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Speaker 3: the medical apparatus stands, and they have unequivocally violated that

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Speaker 3: And what I exposed recently is that you know, now

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Speaker 3: they're under investigation again because it was discovered by a

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Speaker 3: second whistleblower that they might have been not only doing

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Speaker 3: And that's allegedly and you know, Ken Vaxton is now

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Speaker 2: But I discovered that in light of all of.

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Speaker 3: This, you know, fallout all of this scandal, they're still

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Speaker 3: administering gender ideology training to over twenty hundred or sorry,

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Speaker 3: when they have patients they don't discriminate between children our

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Speaker 3: adults to a locally their gender identity if it's different

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Speaker 1: This is just a part of intake now, right, this

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Speaker 1: And then there's more Apparently there's way more genders than

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Speaker 3: Yes, as of a few weeks ago, this training was administered,

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Speaker 3: wrong body. And again we don't know if the patients

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Speaker 2: You know, in the dark.

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Speaker 1: When you bring up Medicaid fraud, I mean, that's to me,

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Speaker 1: Why I think all hospitals, we can openly admit make

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Speaker 1: those were considered elective surgeries. They were stopped. The hospitals

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Speaker 1: And you made a good point. They take an oath

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Speaker 1: because these whistleblowers came forward and they said these kids

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Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in the wrong body. Yes, you

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Speaker 1: And so that that led to these surgeries. And I'm

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean absolutely, you know children, children were involved

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Speaker 3: with the designation nation child abuse. Their mind they're under

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Speaker 3: we just saw today the Independent Women's Forum put out

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Speaker 2: Her name is Preshiam Moseley.

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Speaker 3: And still now that she's detransitioned, you know, she's no

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Speaker 3: She's detailing how much of a struggle that still is

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Speaker 3: And it is for these people every single day of

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Speaker 3: In America, we don't have that situation. So we see

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Speaker 3: just the D transitioners imagine that you are affirming, affirming, affirming,

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So, even though the Texas Children's

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Speaker 1: just bringing up the fact that you know, this is

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Speaker 1: They're suffering from something else, and they're being convinced about this.

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Speaker 1: Tell our audience what else you're working on and where

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Speaker 1: they can find your stuff, because I think this is

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, in addition to the children's welfare protecting children's innocence

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Speaker 3: by you know, kind of cracking down on these child

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Speaker 3: sex change operations that are very much, you know, very

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Speaker 3: much a scandal, I'm also working to expose the male

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Speaker 3: inmates that have been transferred to women's prisons across the country,

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Speaker 3: particularly in Washington State and in California. That has been

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Speaker 3: absolutely a disaster. As you can imagine, these gender inclusive

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Speaker 3: housing policies for prisoners essentially allow violent male felons to

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Speaker 3: these vulnerable female inmates, and as you can imagine, the

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Speaker 3: results have been sexual assault, sexual harassment, rape, We've gone

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Speaker 3: as far as rape. And I have a big story

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Speaker 3: coming out soon about the Washington Women's Prison, So you know,

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Speaker 3: it's I know, sometimes it's hard for people to care

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Speaker 3: about prisoners as much as general children. But what it

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Speaker 3: is is a microcosm of how far gender ideology has

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Speaker 3: permeated into our culture and institutions. And it's another case

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Speaker 1: Our legal just our whole legal system. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: fact that these judges will allow these men to go

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Speaker 1: into women's prisons and women should be safe, no matter

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Speaker 1: what I mean. And you kept the left, who's all

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Speaker 1: supposedly caring about women women's healthcare. Bologne, I say, Bologne.

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Speaker 1: If you are willing to take a man who is

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Speaker 1: a violent criminal and play into this fantasy that they

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Speaker 1: want to be in a women's prison and as a woman,

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Speaker 1: and then inevitably there are rapes, there are assaults. This

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Speaker 1: is a disastrous situation. How could we possibly allow a

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Speaker 1: legal system to continue and I mean, gosh, I could

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Speaker 1: go on and on, and I know I've kept you,

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Speaker 1: but I will just say, we've been watching this here

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Speaker 1: and saying, oh gosh, we have to do something about

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Speaker 1: gun violence, and we have to do something about women's health,

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Speaker 1: and here they are putting men into these prisons. You

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Speaker 1: gun violence a health crisis in the midst of having

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Speaker 1: these criminal, violent criminals. Let right back on on the streets.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, there is a solution to this, folks. It's

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Speaker 1: called a legal system that actually works. And I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the fact that you are exposing that. We'll follow that.

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Speaker 1: We'd love to have you back to talk about it,

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Speaker 1: because it really does fire me up that we have

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Speaker 1: a system in place it works. We have gone around

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Speaker 1: this system and we have seen a massive influx crime

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Speaker 1: across this country and it's devastating women, devastating women. Caroline Downey, thank.

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Speaker 2: You, thank you, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, women and children, we used

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Speaker 3: to protect them, we're not anymore.

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Speaker 1: Thanks y, right, I mean, that's the crazy thing. It's

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Speaker 1: like here we are talking about kids, and then the

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Speaker 1: next the next statement is and we're also doing this

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Speaker 1: to women. I mean, how can this be the left today?

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Speaker 1: It's like experiment on kids, and you can't tell me

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Speaker 1: anything other than this is just full experimentation for sick

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Speaker 1: people who want to chop people up. They want to

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Speaker 1: take bodies and chop them up. I mean, that's the

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Speaker 1: only explanation and then watch women suffer. Oh and maybe

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Speaker 1: that's their idea. Maybe what you said about well, it's

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Speaker 1: hard for them to care about people in prison. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they don't care about people. Maybe they're like, let's let's

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Speaker 1: see what happens. These people committed crimes. Blowney, everyone, every

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Speaker 1: woman in this country should feel safe, and they're not today,

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Speaker 1: and it's because of these crazy leftist policies. You said

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Speaker 1: it well, Caroline. I appreciate you coming on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Thank you, thank you, it's been great.

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Speaker 2: Take care.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, everybody else, thank you so much for listening to

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Speaker 1: Have a blessing,