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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Monday, February twenty third, and

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Speaker 1: Governor Gavin Newsom apparently has just stepped in it. There

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Speaker 1: is a video out there that's been seen by millions

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Speaker 1: upon millions of people. The accusation is that in that

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Speaker 1: video he seems to be trying to relate to black

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Speaker 1: people by saying, see, look, I'm an idiot too. And

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Speaker 1: with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and tej.

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Speaker 1: That was so you make that face. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: think that was pretty accurate, that is to being accused of.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it made me cringe because the idea of it

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Speaker 2: is awful, so terrible.

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Speaker 3: And you mentioned how many views I last saw it

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Speaker 3: was up to thirty five million views.

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Speaker 2: This video has gone viral of Gavin Newsom, and yes,

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Speaker 2: he says, I'm like you, you know, I'm like a

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Speaker 2: nine to sixty SAT guy. He says he can't read.

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Speaker 3: It was awful.

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Speaker 1: So to give you some context here in just a second,

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Speaker 1: we will let you hear it. But also we will

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Speaker 1: actually let you hear I'll read it for you. The

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Speaker 1: response from Nicki Minaj, of all people, she has come

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Speaker 1: out swinging she's a newly minted maga. I guess we

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Speaker 1: could call her, but we also who else has jumped

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Speaker 1: into this. Sean Hannity is in the mid well, Actually, Sean,

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Speaker 1: isn't it crazy? Sean Hannity, Gavin Newsom, NICKI Minaj Sean

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Speaker 1: Hannity comes out looking best in this whole situation, as

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Speaker 1: crazy as that sounds, but yeah, we're here from her.

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Speaker 1: But Gavin Newsom has a response to all this, which

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Speaker 1: I thought was was kind of wow. We talk about

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Speaker 1: our current president roads in some of the language he

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Speaker 1: often uses, Well, the guy who wants to be our

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Speaker 1: next president doesn't mind throwing around some pretty harsh language

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Speaker 1: at times as well.

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Speaker 3: Yes, he has been dropping f bombs.

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Speaker 2: You know, we saw that with Mayor Fry as well,

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Speaker 2: Jacob Fry in Minneapolis when he got upset about what

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Speaker 2: was happening, understandably so, but he started dropping F bombs

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Speaker 2: at a press conference.

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Speaker 3: With families watching.

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Speaker 2: You know, I feel like we're, yeah, we're at this

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Speaker 2: point now where we just certain folks think it's perfectly

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Speaker 2: fine to fight fire with fire.

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Speaker 1: Including those who yes, want to be the next president

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Speaker 1: of the United States. But we'll let you know. Event

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Speaker 1: was last night in Atlanta, Georgia, State University. Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 1: is on his book tours not in front of me,

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Speaker 1: and it's slipping my mind. What's the name of his book.

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Speaker 2: His book is A young Man in a Hurry, young

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Speaker 2: Man memoir of discovery.

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Speaker 1: All right, So he's on this book door. His latest

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Speaker 1: stop was in Atlanta. He was at Georgia State University

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Speaker 1: at the Theater on campus and he was being interviewed

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Speaker 1: fireside chat type of thing, right road, so makes with

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Speaker 1: the mayor, the black mayor of Atlanta, which should be said,

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Speaker 1: and that's going to be relevant to this story, but

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Speaker 1: he was I guess I want to put in right

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Speaker 1: context what the question was. We don't have a verbatim,

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Speaker 1: but it was kind of a long, meandering, kind of

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Speaker 1: he threw in dyslexia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you know, because that is a part of

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Speaker 2: his book where he talks about how as a young

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Speaker 2: man he found out he was dyslexic. And it made

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Speaker 2: sense because even to this day he's trying to explain

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Speaker 2: he basically wasn't a great student, is what he was saying.

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Speaker 2: And so he said, I'm not trying to impress you.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to impress upon you. Oh and we

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Speaker 2: have him saying it actually himself Orbatims. That's hilarious that

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Speaker 1: Here's Gavin Newsom himself in Atlanta last night, and this

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Speaker 1: is the part of the video that's got everybody buzz.

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Speaker 4: It's all out there, and I just want to put it

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Speaker 4: all out there. I'm not you know, I'm not trying

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Speaker 4: to impress you. I'm just trying to impress upon you.

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Speaker 4: I'm like you, I'm no better than you.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: I'm a nine to sixty SAT guy and you know,

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Speaker 5: and I'm not trying to offend anyone, you know, trying

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Speaker 5: to act all there. If you got nine forty, but

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Speaker 1: All right, it's woo all right through what lens are

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Speaker 1: people listening and seeing that? I guess to well determine

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Speaker 1: No big deal? Can you be fired up about it?

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Speaker 1: I guess you legit on both sides if you want.

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Speaker 2: To be look, I understand on one side, yes, Governor

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Speaker 2: Newsom was trying to be relatable. He was trying to

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Speaker 2: be one of the people. You know, I'm not just

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Speaker 2: this ivy league smart guy. But when you try to

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Speaker 2: connect with people, and how you connect with them is

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Speaker 2: tell them that you're stupid too, or that you aren't

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Speaker 2: so good at reading two. I mean, if he just

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Speaker 2: saying and who he was saying it to, that's how

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Speaker 2: you're relating to someone by saying I'm dumb too.

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Speaker 3: That's tough. That's hard to explain.

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Speaker 2: And even if he didn't mean harm, it felt like

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Speaker 2: it was just a part.

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Speaker 3: Of who he is.

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Speaker 1: Well, what does it say about who he's talking to?

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine him and being in a particular room

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Speaker 1: of elites and speaking that way. I'm just saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm like you, I'm a nine sixty guy. What was

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Speaker 1: the room. But he even went far. You said, you

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Speaker 1: were shocked by it was crazy too. He went the

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Speaker 1: wrong direction, I don't mean to offend, right, And then

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Speaker 1: he went low.

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Speaker 2: When he said I didn't mean to offend, I thought, oh,

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Speaker 2: here he goes. He's gonna say, look, I'm sure most

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Speaker 3: I thought he was going to correct what he might

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Speaker 2: That somehow he was insinuating the audience was at his level,

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Speaker 2: here he goes, he's going to say, which, of course,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure most of you scored far better than me. No,

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Speaker 2: he actually said, didn't want any of you who made

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Speaker 3: So he actually told the audience out there, he was

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Speaker 3: That made my jaw drop.

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Speaker 1: Did you do act or SAT?

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Speaker 3: I did SAT?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not even sure what's a good SAT score.

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Speaker 3: It's changed over the years.

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Speaker 1: Okay, where back then? I don't know what range. I

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Speaker 2: I know I got a partial scholarship because of mine.

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Speaker 1: But generally speaking in scores, when he says nine sixty,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. Is the top number?

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Speaker 1: Two thousand is the top number. Fifteen hundred, that's what

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Speaker 2: Sixteen hundred is top. And I actually, funny enough, I

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Speaker 2: I don't have it in front of you. But when

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Speaker 2: I was reading the backlash and the people writing articles

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Speaker 2: so it's nothing.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't that far below that. No, the average, that

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Speaker 1: is what we're saying. Okay, so what was it about

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Speaker 1: the audience. But a lot of people took this and

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Speaker 1: this is why Sean Hannity posted this video in the

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Speaker 1: first place, just saying, Wow, this guy is saying he's

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Speaker 1: like you because he can't read and blah blah blah,

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Speaker 1: and folks took off with it. Now, he responded, Robes,

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Speaker 1: you have that in front of you. I did to

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Speaker 1: Sean Hannity again, Shawn's was a very short you know

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Speaker 1: you have his there Shawn's first, because this is important.

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Speaker 2: Sean Hannity wrote, at Gavin Newsom thinks a nine to

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Speaker 3: Like black Americans. Let that sink in.

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Speaker 1: All right, so you understood maybe what he was saying

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Speaker 1: aware was going or whatever, and then Gavin Newsom went nuclear.

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Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom respond to Sean Hannity with this, you didn't

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Speaker 2: of America posting an eighth video of President Obama or

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Speaker 2: calling African nations shitholes, But you're going to call me

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Speaker 2: racist for talking about my lifelong struggle with dyslexia.

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Speaker 3: Spare me your fake fucking outrage.

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Speaker 1: Sean, what do you think about that?

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Speaker 3: That was expletive written?

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Speaker 1: He touched a nerve and it was a Did that

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Speaker 1: like he was a rapid fire.

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Speaker 2: That was a rapid fire emotional response to what he

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Speaker 2: perceived he was being called a racist by Sean Hannity.

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Speaker 1: Which he was not. I guess you could not not

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Speaker 1: wing wing. But Sean pointed out, I don't know, Rose.

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Speaker 1: You didn't have to tell me who was in the audience.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, if he whatever audience he

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Speaker 2: You make such a good point because as soon as

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Speaker 2: he gave that same speech to a Wall Street luncheon

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Speaker 3: You think he would have said the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were going to say. Women. Could you

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Speaker 1: imagine him talking to a women's group.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness. Yep, hadn't thought about that either. But

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Speaker 2: you also make a good point.

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Speaker 1: Insert any group you want.

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Speaker 3: It's insulting.

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Speaker 1: It is a group of seniors in high school. It's insulting.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what And then he probably wishes

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Speaker 1: that he didn't say it. It was inarticulate and how

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Speaker 1: he went about it. Maybe he did, yes, But he

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Speaker 1: has the problem with him and these types of stories

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Speaker 1: they fit somewhat of a narrative about him. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: makes sense. He's in elite. Look at the hair, look

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Speaker 1: at his family, look at his background, look at this

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Speaker 1: and look at people can point to. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think this is the biggest deal in the world, obviously Rose,

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Speaker 1: but you can see how this would come back to

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Speaker 1: bite him and folks use this as some kind of

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Speaker 2: Oh campaign, Oh yes, And it's been interesting because Yes,

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Speaker 2: a lot of people have gone off on what he

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Speaker 2: said and now have pulled up pictures of him on

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Speaker 2: the San Francisco Chronicle in nineteen ninety one, pictured as

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Speaker 2: children of the rich and just showing his privileged upbringing

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Speaker 2: and who his father did business with the gettys. Like

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Speaker 2: now it's all coming up and out. And I thought

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Speaker 2: it was interesting what newsom spokesperson said when asked about

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Speaker 2: the backlash, like completely dismissed it and said Maga manufactured outrage,

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Speaker 2: and then said Governor Newsom has told this story to

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Speaker 2: many different audiences, including conservative ones.

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Speaker 3: The story about his SAT score. But the question is

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Speaker 3: why did he Did he say SAT score? Did he

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Speaker 3: talk about literacy? Did he talk about his he talked

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Speaker 3: about his dyslexia.

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Speaker 2: But I think most people would argue that that specific

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Speaker 2: I'm going to examine how I you know, how I

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Speaker 2: Well, I've got my glasses on so I can read

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Speaker 2: Nikki's post because it's better just to let you all

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Speaker 2: The craziest part of this footage that will haunt him forever.

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Speaker 3: Didn't look that black it looked it looked like a

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Speaker 1: Oh, yes, not how you do it. You can't burn

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Speaker 1: It's okay, you can actually laugh about this. It's not

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's the problem is when you're trying to fight

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Speaker 2: Kennedy's could be exhibit A. But you always do say

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Speaker 2: People need an enemy. And so when you say something,

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Speaker 1: My god, who's the guy down and I just said

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Speaker 3: That's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: This is where we are. This is where we are,

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Speaker 1: all right, folks. We always appreciate you spending some time

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Speaker 1: But man, it's been heavy. All right, folks, A pretty

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