Speaker 1: Yeah, So I am in Atlantic City in a hotel room.
Speaker 1: I came here to do an appearance right after watch
Speaker 1: What Happens Live. Usually, watch What Happens Live is live
Speaker 1: and you walk out of there like ten thirty and
Speaker 1: or eleven sometimes and people have been drinking and it's chaotic.
Speaker 1: And let me explain to you what watch What Happens
Speaker 1: A Live is like. And I've been doing it since
Speaker 1: the very very beginning when Kathy Griffin said she wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it. She's done Johnny Carson and she would never
Speaker 1: do watch what Happens Live. That was the beginning. Um,
Speaker 1: I remember her saying that to me. And of course
Speaker 1: now Oprah has been on watch about his live, so
Speaker 1: as every other major celebrity, so as Hillary Clinton. So anyway,
Speaker 1: I've been doing it since the beginning when Kathy Griffin
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. Um. And it used to be you, well,
Speaker 1: you went into a building and you went up an elevator,
Speaker 1: you came out and there was like this bank of
Speaker 1: offices and a corner office was the head producer who
Speaker 1: owns the production company. I think if they still produce it,
Speaker 1: and I would sort of sit in there and wait
Speaker 1: with my group and it was their personal office and
Speaker 1: then you would come and go into this other room
Speaker 1: which was like a little cute green room and get
Speaker 1: your makeup done and go out to watch Lavens live.
Speaker 1: Now it's just and I remember they used to do crafts,
Speaker 1: are have they have, like used to have a bunch
Speaker 1: of food. They used to order it in the beginning,
Speaker 1: but there wasn't you know, they would make their own cocktails.
Speaker 1: They they've been doing it right since the beginning. But
Speaker 1: now it's really you walk in through you go in
Speaker 1: through some other side of the building, which is like
Speaker 1: the bowels of the building, and coming through the back,
Speaker 1: and there are all these different people and they're staged
Speaker 1: in one area, and there's a step and repete, and
Speaker 1: there's a backstage, and there are multiple green rooms and
Speaker 1: they're like there's tons of social media and they're all
Speaker 1: these different things. And so you're still in like the
Speaker 1: bowels of the building, and there's still banks of offices
Speaker 1: and there's snacks in certain places, but it's like you
Speaker 1: moved from one place to another and one dress room
Speaker 1: to another because might be recording another show earlier, and
Speaker 1: they used to not record shows and now they record
Speaker 1: other shows earlier. So on this day I came in
Speaker 1: and was in one like busy, big makeup room and
Speaker 1: I had only seen once before where multiple people could
Speaker 1: get their makeup done. And I ran into Teresa, who
Speaker 1: had been on the show earlier, and that was a
Speaker 1: fun interaction. And then Andy comes and he always comes in,
Speaker 1: which is great as a host, and and then you
Speaker 1: shuttled to like another room with your whole group where
Speaker 1: like your green room is, and you're doing touch ups
Speaker 1: and you're waiting to go out, and it's just like
Speaker 1: a lot of chaos because there's usually drinking and people
Speaker 1: in action and social media and it's and just it's
Speaker 1: just crowded and there's chaos, and so you leave and
Speaker 1: you're just exhausted. So I went into watch What Happens
Speaker 1: Live on the heels of a conflict with Andy Cohen,
Speaker 1: I announced re Wives, and on that morning before it
Speaker 1: was announced, I texted Andy Cohen and said it was
Speaker 1: my birthday, and I said, happy birthday. Um, you'll this
Speaker 1: you'll think is amazing or whatever. So I sent him
Speaker 1: the clip of Elizabeth Moss on Rewise and he said,
Speaker 1: fun exclamation point. I because of my crazy abused to childhood.
Speaker 1: That was not normal. I had Spidey sense, so you see,
Speaker 1: he said fun and then and I said it to Paul,
Speaker 1: and I said it to like a couple of the
Speaker 1: people and they said that sounds great. I said, no,
Speaker 1: that's not that's not that's negative. They were like what,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know it all. Him saying oh fun
Speaker 1: is like he doesn't know what to say, so he's
Speaker 1: just saying oh fun to just say something. So then
Speaker 1: I said something like, it's not you know, it's really amazing,
Speaker 1: it's really interesting. It's different, and it is different because
Speaker 1: because I don't see any other former fired housewives having
Speaker 1: Elizabeth moss Emy winning you know, world round actresses on
Speaker 1: their shows. And I said something and he said, I'm
Speaker 1: just glad to see you embracing the housewives. That told
Speaker 1: me everything I need to know. That told me, oh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go on a rock not a really, I
Speaker 1: didn't know we'd go on the ride, and went on
Speaker 1: a ride. Meaning And he's shading it a little because
Speaker 1: he's read everything I've said, but he always acts like
Speaker 1: he hasn't read anything I've said because so many things
Speaker 1: I've have happened, whether it's the MTV Award or other
Speaker 1: things where my show money Cork gets announced, and I
Speaker 1: don't get a text from him congratulating me. And I'm
Speaker 1: always like, why did he congratulate me? Because he does
Speaker 1: seem to read everything, So he did read everything I
Speaker 1: guess that I've ever said. I never knew if he
Speaker 1: did because he doesn't ever bring it up. So now
Speaker 1: he's effectively saying, you've shaded the Housewives. But he didn't
Speaker 1: say this yet, so everything is just oh great, I'm
Speaker 1: just glad to see you're embracing the Housewives. Okay. Then
Speaker 1: we pitched it as a show on Bravo because we
Speaker 1: thought it would be a great show, sort of like
Speaker 1: they had something about the Couch. There was a couch
Speaker 1: show on Bravo. We pitched there because we think with
Speaker 1: all the clips, would be an amazing show. We didn't
Speaker 1: know how successful it would be, was just an idea,
Speaker 1: but we thought it was pretty good. I mean, the
Speaker 1: production company thought it was pretty amazing. The way that
Speaker 1: Bravo responded seemed like there was a little bit of
Speaker 1: sensitivity around my launching rewives, like it being a little personal.
Speaker 1: And in the past I've had situations where Bravo it's
Speaker 1: very personal to them versus only being about the business.
Speaker 1: So I did write a book called Business Personal, but
Speaker 1: Bravo definitely has taken things personally about our business. So
Speaker 1: then Andy jumps into the Housewives pool and while he's
Speaker 1: on his show, he says something about that he was surprised,
Speaker 1: and he says that I've you know, said negative things
Speaker 1: about the Housewives, which I've said it was toxic because
Speaker 1: it was for me, and someone recycles when Andy's already
Speaker 1: said and he doubles down, and he says he's shocked
Speaker 1: because I've trashed the Housewives for so long. But he
Speaker 1: doesn't say any of this to me privately. He says
Speaker 1: it publicly. So I'm thinking, am I going to respond
Speaker 1: to this? So the same day that that comes out,
Speaker 1: the same day we had been turned down for watching
Speaker 1: What Happens Live to promote rewives, So the same day
Speaker 1: that and and money for it. So the same day
Speaker 1: that that article, the all the articles come out about
Speaker 1: Andy saying he's shocked what actually Happens Live's called and
Speaker 1: I predicted this. I woke up in the morning, I said,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be smart of them to book me? I
Speaker 1: don't know if they'd have the guts to do it,
Speaker 1: but to book me on Andy show right after it's
Speaker 1: he's been sort of calling me out publicly, not privately,
Speaker 1: so they book us on the show. I'm like, here
Speaker 1: we go. My whole team is like, here we go.
Speaker 1: I still don't hear from Andy. So now the show
Speaker 1: comes and I hear that a book with Jeff lewis.
Speaker 1: So now I'm booked on the show. And I talked
Speaker 1: to my podcast producer. She's very smart Amy, and I
Speaker 1: say to her, he's all over talking about being shocked
Speaker 1: and it's picked up everywhere. Do I just wait for
Speaker 1: his show and comment on what I think? She goes, No,
Speaker 1: why would you give it all to his show? Say
Speaker 1: it on your show? Mentioned it all. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is unique because everybody's used to going on Andy
Speaker 1: show and him getting all the scoop on everything. And
Speaker 1: so I said, okay, So I've commented on Its still
Speaker 1: nothing privately from Andy. So I'm like, all right, let's
Speaker 1: let it ride. Let's wait. Yea. So I go to
Speaker 1: Andy show and it's chaotic asolas and I bring my
Speaker 1: daughter and we get there in the afternoon. Thank god,
Speaker 1: because it's taped and it's gonna be a lot. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be on days later, so it's not eleven o'clock
Speaker 1: at night. I'm not drinking alcohol. I get there and
Speaker 1: he comes in. I see Theresa first. I talked to Andy.
Speaker 1: All good, We do a TikTok together. Then we're on
Speaker 1: the show. He comes right out with it. Okay, so
Speaker 1: we have, you know, beef, or we have a conflict.
Speaker 1: The only reason it's not real conflict is because we
Speaker 1: both know the game. Andy and I are friends, and
Speaker 1: we do go on beach walks and we do text,
Speaker 1: and he has told me things that no one knows.
Speaker 1: And I know where all the bodies are buried, and
Speaker 1: he knows exactly how much money I walked out of
Speaker 1: there getting paid, and he knows. I'm not gonna tell
Speaker 1: anyone because we're both grown acid adults in the entertainment
Speaker 1: industry first, that's what we both are. First, we're both
Speaker 1: protecting our own realm. So I know that while he
Speaker 1: didn't do it privately, even though we're friends, that he's
Speaker 1: saving it first show because he's putting business first. So
Speaker 1: he says we um had beef, etcetera. And he said,
Speaker 1: I said this. He said, I said surprise. I said,
Speaker 1: shocked is what you said. And I said, and we
Speaker 1: haven't discussed this. We have only discussed this has only
Speaker 1: been out publicly. You chose to air this publicly, not privately,
Speaker 1: like just like a housewife. He saved it for the show.
Speaker 1: He did not say it to me. Here's my text.
Speaker 1: We text about the dumbest thing you could text me privately,
Speaker 1: ay that you didn't love it. I'm doing it. Be
Speaker 1: that you're shocked any of this. So I didn't know
Speaker 1: any of this until this came out in the public.
Speaker 1: So then he says, you said it's toxic, and you
Speaker 1: said it's boring. I said, I didn't say it's boring.
Speaker 1: I said. He said, you said leg because he was born.
Speaker 1: I said, I haven't seen Legacy. He said the announcement.
Speaker 1: I said, the announcement was boring. We're announcing two shows.
Speaker 1: We're recycling and putting the same people through the recycle
Speaker 1: and recycling former and fired housewives. Over here in a
Speaker 1: quote unquote legacy. I mean, we have a new show. Great,
Speaker 1: we have a new show. That was the idea that
Speaker 1: I thought was more interesting. But I did think Legacy
Speaker 1: was born guilty and I stopped. So I'm in between
Speaker 1: Jeff and Andy and he's to my right, Jeff is
Speaker 1: to my left. So now Jeff comes and he goes
Speaker 1: and what's so yeah, and what's so different about this Housewives?
Speaker 1: Because I said, really, and what's so different about your podcast?
Speaker 1: So now shots are fired, like there's a little shade,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, real subtle, not that subtle shade
Speaker 1: and frosting. Oh really, and what's so different teaming up
Speaker 1: the ball? What's so different about this podcast? So I've
Speaker 1: just gone over here and said to Andy, well, you
Speaker 1: said shocked and it was boring and also I'm entitled
Speaker 1: to talk about it. Check that box. Now I'm over
Speaker 1: here playing tennis and Jeff is that? So? What and
Speaker 1: what's different about this? I'm like, well, it's not first
Speaker 1: and four. And I don't even realize that Jeff is
Speaker 1: a podcast about the housewives. I've never heard his podcast,
Speaker 1: so I guess he talks about the housewives, but he's
Speaker 1: not even on Okay, he has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the Housewives. But and he's so I didn't know anything.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what I'm about to tell you.
Speaker 1: So I said to Jeff. He says, and what's different?
Speaker 1: I said, because I wasn't thinking of him. I said, well,
Speaker 1: it's not fired disgruntled Bravo housewives talking about the podcast.
Speaker 1: So he says, I was fired. I didn't even know this.
Speaker 1: He says, I was fired, And I said, well, well
Speaker 1: that's why you're so bitter, because he's anger. He's clearly
Speaker 1: bitter about something it doesn't even involve him. But maybe
Speaker 1: he thinks it involves him because he's a fired employee
Speaker 1: that's now talking about his former high school, which is
Speaker 1: what I've said, So maybe now he thinks this involves
Speaker 1: him when it really doesn't. So he then is like, wait,
Speaker 1: I was just cheating up your podcast. He's trying to pretend,
Speaker 1: which later Andy clarified was shade. He's trying to pretend
Speaker 1: you what pretend? He wasn't shading me, And he was
Speaker 1: just wondering what's different about my podcast? And I was like,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna come for me, you're gonna get shot.
Speaker 1: Check that box. Now he's on alert. So anyway, now
Speaker 1: we're going back and forth. Then they say, why, um,
Speaker 1: did you want file? Kyle? Kyle and I do want
Speaker 1: follow and follow people randomly, like sometimes someone's posted so
Speaker 1: many times about something. Maybe it was about Housewives and
Speaker 1: I wasn't on Housewives at the time. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: about Erica Jane. I have no idea. I literally don't know.
Speaker 1: But I am friends with Kyle. I do text Kyle,
Speaker 1: and I am literally friends of people that I don't follow.
Speaker 1: Out Andy points out, we don't follow each other, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I am sort of, you know, bullshit friendly with We
Speaker 1: don't follow each other, and I follow random makeup artists
Speaker 1: and weird people like from stores that have reached out
Speaker 1: to me. I have no method to my madness and
Speaker 1: my following on Instagram. Someone could clean out my house.
Speaker 1: I do know, because I do know that I don't
Speaker 1: follow Balencia to thank God, because other people have controlled
Speaker 1: for following them. I have a random system for who
Speaker 1: I following and followed. But Jeff, what are you coming
Speaker 1: in for me? Because Jeff was behind making faces. Okay,
Speaker 1: so all this is to say for me, none of
Speaker 1: this was anything. This was just a normal day at
Speaker 1: the office. Because I'm used to going in to the
Speaker 1: Bravo clubhouse with armor not even knowing, and I thought
Speaker 1: to myself, what I didn't stay to Jeff Lewis, which
Speaker 1: I'm mentioning at all with you, this is not spilling
Speaker 1: TV is spilling strong coffee. We're gonna spill strong coffee
Speaker 1: on re Rest, no diluted TA. This will be strong
Speaker 1: coffee spills. So what I didn't say to Jeff Lewis
Speaker 1: is what's different. It's not former or fired disgruntled housewives
Speaker 1: slash employees. It's also internationally acclaimed actors, comedians, actresses. Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Moss is not going on you know, housewives recap shows.
Speaker 1: So sorry, not sorry, that should be the name of
Speaker 1: this show. But what was interesting to me after getting
Speaker 1: unbeknownst to me, sort of quietly ambushed, I come off
Speaker 1: and my daughter was like, WHOA, that was shady, and
Speaker 1: my assistants like whoa, and my assistant, my daughter and
Speaker 1: everyone around said, oh, they came for you. It looked
Speaker 1: like there was a tennis match that you were in
Speaker 1: the middle and you were just hitting back balls. And
Speaker 1: my assistant said, the difference is everybody else comes in
Speaker 1: with a script and you are not done up a
Speaker 1: script and you're just answering in the moment, which happened
Speaker 1: to me on One reunion. One reunion, you can ask Andy.
Speaker 1: There was a firing squad on the opposite couch firing
Speaker 1: squad and I took them all one by one how
Speaker 1: God only knows, but I did. So don't come for
Speaker 1: me unless I send for you. That's a Kenya more line.
Speaker 1: Because my assistance were everyone in my team. This is
Speaker 1: what shocked me. I thought, oh, that was fun, Andy, Andy,
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh that was sort of fun. And
Speaker 1: that was a lot. Everyone on my team said that
Speaker 1: guy Jeff Lewis is mean. He's not a nice person.
Speaker 1: He came for you for no reason, like you didn't
Speaker 1: do anything to him. I actually brought he and his
Speaker 1: daughter a gift. I brought him an Italian simple little nothing,
Speaker 1: you know, a handpainted ornament from Italy. Um. I bought
Speaker 1: them when I was in Italy waiting for Christmas, and
Speaker 1: I've only given out one to Jeff Lewis to be
Speaker 1: honest with you. UM. And I gave a cute like
Speaker 1: squish him with Hello Kitty Pineapple to his daughter. I
Speaker 1: looked up how old is his daughter? My name is Monroe,
Speaker 1: and I realized that that would be nice for her.
Speaker 1: And he came with a firing squad for no reason,
Speaker 1: with no goal. I'm not on the show with you.
Speaker 1: I have nothing to do with you. What are you
Speaker 1: so angry about? What do you care about what I'm doing?
Speaker 1: He looked at me like I had just vomited on him.
Speaker 1: He had something going on, So it was a bit
Speaker 1: of an ambush. I totally held my own. But it's
Speaker 1: another thing. My assistant, Taylor said, that was interesting. She said,
Speaker 1: you often say how we represent you, meaning when we're
Speaker 1: out and about, meaning my staff. You want us to
Speaker 1: just like not be have our heads in our phones
Speaker 1: all the time. It'd be nice to people and be kind.
Speaker 1: And same goes for me, Bethany. Sometimes I'm looking at something,
Speaker 1: I'm stressed about something, I'm not looking up, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying hello to somebody I've passed in a lobby, and
Speaker 1: it all matters because that's their one interaction with me.
Speaker 1: And they experienced it as rude, even if I was
Speaker 1: in my head or I wasn't rude. And so they
Speaker 1: and and and I realized that that person will tell
Speaker 1: everyone they know that I was rude. And and my
Speaker 1: assistant said, he's that person. Now. Everyone we were with
Speaker 1: thinks he is so nasty and mean, and came for
Speaker 1: you for no reason. They were like, what did you
Speaker 1: do to him? And I frankly don't know. So that's
Speaker 1: the strong coffee about what happened. And watch What Happens Live,
Speaker 1: And I'm not saving it for Andy show. I'm giving
Speaker 1: it to you here on my show and not just
Speaker 1: coming in for the low hanging fruit clickbait and trashing people.
Speaker 1: I'm giving you context and telling you a story. This
Speaker 1: is my experience at Watch What Happens Live, Paul said
Speaker 1: to me, Jeff came for you, then he quickly became
Speaker 1: your your your friendly sidekick. The whole point is what
Speaker 1: my assistant said about how people will perceive you. Um.
Speaker 1: The other thing is what's crazy is how desensitized I
Speaker 1: have been. Here's the moral of the story. It is
Speaker 1: a toxic environment because I did not even realize that
Speaker 1: people were coming from me for no reason, Like I
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. I mean, it was it felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, Andy was business as usual. But I'm sitting
Speaker 1: with a person who came for me for no reason whatsoever.
Speaker 1: I literally was just sitting down on a talk show
Speaker 1: and the other guests was trying to got Jimmy the
Speaker 1: whole time. He was just angry. He didn't want to
Speaker 1: play the game, and he set up for him, and
Speaker 1: it just it felt, it felt toxic, and it felt
Speaker 1: it felt just a fight. I'm gonna listen to these bitter,
Speaker 1: angry people about what I shouldn't shouldn't do in a podcast.
Speaker 1: Why do you care about what podcasts I'm doing? H