1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, how you doing doing great? 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 2: I see you, not just hear you in my ears. 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: We're talking about the Angels, So it's. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 3: Hey, let's start with the good stuff though, Bob, So 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: what do you have for us on this World Series? 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 3: And do you believe Doc Roberts and how he says 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 3: the Dodgers are ruining baseball? 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: You know that played well to his team, that played 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: well in the stadium, It played well to Dodger nation. 10 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: It plays into the resentments that many baseball fans have, 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: understandably of those who play, as Brian Kenny puts it, 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: hedge Fund Baseball, and those teams like the Brewers and 13 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: like some others who have to be more resourceful and 14 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: nonetheless succeed, but they feel like they're outmanned. But that 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: was Roberts in the exuberance of the moment. We all 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 1: know that Doc is a really good guy. He respects 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: the game. He wasn't trying to salt anybody or anything 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: like that. What I do know about this series two things. 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: People still seem to look at baseball the same way 20 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: they would at a football game, where when one team 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: has clear advantages, they'll press those advantages. The quarterback touches 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: the ball on every play. Michael Jordan and Lebron James 23 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: touched the ball almost every time down the floor. Wayne 24 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Gretzky plays extra shifts in the Stanley Cup playoffs. It 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: doesn't work that way in baseball. Baseball's more random. So 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: it looks like the Dodgers are just pile driving past everybody. 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: Milwaukee won ninety seven games best in baseball. They blew 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: them out. If Toronto wins Game one tonight, it's very 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,199 Speaker 1: close to a certainty that the series at least comes 30 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: back to Toronto for Game six and seven. And we 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: know what happened with Seattle when they came back home 32 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: down three to two. Are the Dodgers the favorites, Absolutely, 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: and they should be. But if you know anything about 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: baseball and its history, are they prohibitive favorites? 35 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 2: No, Bob, Listen, this sounds like your Yankees back in 36 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: the nineties and the two thousands, Right. They had spend 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 2: more money and they were just better, but they didn't 38 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: win every year, right, So I mean, now it's just 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: the Dodgers turn to do this, and the Yankees won 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 2: all those and everyone hates a team or they want 41 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: to root against the team just as much, if not 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: more than they want to root for another team. 43 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: You get more because you know, you get more. 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 2: Eyes on you when people want to see you lose 45 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: than they do when they want to see somebody win. 46 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 2: And that's kind of where I feel like we're at. 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 2: And the Dodgers haven't. Dodgers have a bunch of good guys. 48 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 2: They haven't done really anything like off the field, they 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 2: haven't done any scandals. 50 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 4: They got a bunch of good dudes that seem to 51 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 4: just win baseball games. 52 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, when you think about it, there's 53 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: a parallel there to Joe Torre's Yankees. You know, people 54 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: might not have liked George Steinbrenner, you know, huffing and 55 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: puffing with everything, but Tory comes in establishes a different tone. 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: How are you going to disrespect or dislike Derek Jeter 57 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: or Bernie Williams or Jahe Posada, all those people. It 58 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: wasn't just that they were a winning team. They were 59 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: a likable team and the way they went about it, 60 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: and then when they happen to be in the World 61 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: Series and the immediate aftermath of two thousand and one, 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: and there are all those emotional scenes and people wearing 63 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: NYPD and FDNY hats. I think that was all washed away, 64 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: and other than when people were rooting for the Diamondbacks 65 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: perhaps in that series. Other than Diamondback fans, I think 66 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: people felt good about the Yankees in that circumstance. But 67 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: you know how it is Notre Dame, the Cowboys, Duke. 68 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: They have as many people nationwide rooting against them as 69 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: rooting for them. One thing for sure, this is a 70 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: safe prediction on this World series. The ratings are going 71 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: to be through the roof. You've seen what the ratings 72 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: are in Canada. The Jays are almost a national obsession, 73 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: and overseas across the Pacific Ocean, all of Japan's going 74 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: to be up watching these games to see Otani into 75 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: a lesser ausent Yamamoto and Sasaki. The Dodgers bring, you know, 76 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: name brand and a large market already, and when you 77 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: combine it with those other factors, I haven't got the 78 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: figures in front of you, but I'd be surprised if 79 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: this goes six or seven. You've got to get deeper 80 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: in the audience builds. Although it'll build for the game 81 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: that Otani pitchers, which would be Game four at Dodger Stadium. 82 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: If it goes six or seven games, my guess is 83 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: this could be the highest rated World Series since the 84 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,479 Speaker 1: Cubs broke the curse in twenty sixteen. 85 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 5: All Right, so this is great for baseball. So give 86 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 5: us your preview. Yeah, give us the preview of what 87 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 5: you think not only is going to happen, but how 88 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 5: the series breaks down to get to Game six or 89 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 5: Game seven. 90 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: It's not imperative, but it would be good for the series. 91 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: Would really be good for the series if Toronto wins 92 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: Game one tonight and established that this is a competition, 93 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: not a coronation of a Dodger dynasty. Getting out of 94 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: there with a split, you know, despite the fact that 95 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: we can get carried away. If you play three games 96 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: against a cellar dwelling team, the odds are the that 97 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: team wins one of those games, if those games are 98 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: in July or August. Now I realize that you approach 99 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: it differently in October, but if Toronto gets out with 100 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: a split, I think the odds are overwhelming that they 101 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: come back to Toronto and they certainly have a chance 102 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: with two games at home. If they come back down 103 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: three to two, let alone up three two I think 104 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: that we've got a series that has a chance to 105 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: go to a seventh game, and then the ratings will 106 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: be really through the roof they will. 107 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 5: Bob, I agree. 108 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: I think you got all of Japan watching, you got 109 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 2: all of Canada watching, and you got all of America watching, 110 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 2: not only in LA but people that want the Dodgers 111 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: to lose. 112 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 4: They're all rooting for the Blue Jay. 113 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 2: So I think the ratings for the series are going 114 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 2: to be outstanding, which needs even my next question. 115 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 4: You're tight with Rob Manfred, you know him very well. 116 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: Everyone everywhere you. 117 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 2: Read, ratings are up, attendance is of interest in baseball 118 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: is up. And then all of a sudden, we hear, well, 119 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 2: we need a salary cap. I'm sorry to bring us down, 120 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 2: but we need a salary cap and we need a 121 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 2: lock down. 122 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 4: These players can't. 123 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: Keep doing what they're doing where we hung up here, Bob, 124 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: explain this to me because I can't. 125 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: You're one of the smartest people I know. 126 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: Maybe you can explain this to me because no one 127 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: else has been able to explain it to you. 128 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: Well, you know, there's a lot of small and middle 129 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: market teams that think that the thing is out of hand. 130 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: But that's been the refrain forever, no matter how much 131 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: the economic landscape has changed, the threat of a lockout, 132 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: and even if it's imposed after lockouts. Historically in baseball history, 133 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: you haven't lost any games after strikes, which strategically take 134 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: place during seasons or just before the season begins. Then 135 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: we have lost games, and in some cases lots of them. 136 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: So this may be just the tactic. All right, We're 137 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,679 Speaker 1: going to impose a lockout technically in December of twenty 138 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: twenty six. That gives us plenty of time to work 139 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: this thing out. One of the problems, if that's the 140 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: right word, is that Tony Clark is in a difficult 141 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:54,799 Speaker 1: position as the head of the MLB Players Association. Going 142 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: all the way back to Marvin Miller, who finally got 143 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: into the Baseball Hall of Fame, is one of the 144 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: most significant non play in the history of the game. 145 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: Marvin Miller stood fast, it wasn't a negotiating thing. It 146 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: was a matter of principle. There will never be a 147 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: salary cap, and Don Fear and gene Orza were just 148 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: as hardline. Tony Clark doesn't want to be the first 149 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: guy who yields ground on that particular issue, which was 150 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: always a red line for the players. But think about it, 151 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: in one form or another. The NFL, the NHL, and 152 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: the NBA all have some version of a salary cap. 153 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: This should now not be a holy war anymore. All 154 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: the matters of principle, the players of one over time 155 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: as they should have. Now this should just be a 156 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: hard nosed business negotiation and not a matter of principle 157 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: that can't possibly be violated no matter what else is 158 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: going on. We're not going to be able to roll 159 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: back the clock and the players standing on a street 160 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: corner with a tin cup are having to have off 161 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: season jobs. That's not going to happen. I hope the 162 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: two sides can realize there's a lot of mutual interest 163 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: here and let's see if we can negotiate a deal 164 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: like businessmen rather than people that are on opposite sides 165 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: of a holy war. 166 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 5: I agreed. 167 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: I agree with everything you said. 168 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: Here's the problem with and I don't want to get 169 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: into a debate that you'll win because you're way smarter 170 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 2: than I am. 171 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 4: Well, here's my thing. You're here. 172 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, the cap hasn't fixed anything in the other sports. 173 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: It hasn't fixed basketball. It hasn't fixed the NFL, it 174 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: hasn't Hockey's you can make argument hockeys worse since they 175 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 2: went to a full cap, I mean football, they traded 176 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: the players have to switch teams every year. NBA they 177 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: have all these different well we have to They keep 178 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: changing the rules. So you know, this guy can go 179 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: back and the Celtics won. 180 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: You can't even understand. You can't even understand why the 181 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: NBA thing is. Sometimes just like, let's let's pick up 182 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: sides of the schoolyard. Let's all get together, will be 183 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: a team. We'll walk to the schoolyard, you know exactly. 184 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: We three will walk to the schoolyard. We'll have the team. 185 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: We'll take the two best guys we find there, and 186 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: that's our team. 187 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 4: I agree. 188 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: So that's why I mean listen, as you know, I'm 189 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: a player, so I'm going to always argue against it. 190 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 4: But you know you explained it. We explained it. 191 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: But to me, a cap is not the answer. And 192 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: there's got to be a way we can make this work. 193 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: And I just don't want to see any time missed. 194 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 2: I know we're you're away. There's already dominating stuff. So 195 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: like as you know someone famous one said, can we 196 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: all just get along? 197 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 4: Please? Like in baseball, just just get along? 198 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? Apparent apparently not. You know, I'm hoping. I'm hoping 199 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: that relations should be better now. You know, back in 200 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: the day when the owners really were screwing the players. 201 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: This is a different situation now. I know it was 202 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: a one off. But when Bryce Harper drops an F 203 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: bomb on Manfred to whatever extent that represents a portion 204 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: of the players electorate, I don't think that's a hopeful sign. 205 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: You know. Uh, they have to respect the owner's position 206 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: and the commission's position. They don't have to agree with it, 207 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: but they they have to to view them as, if 208 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: not partners, there's at least some overlap of mutual interest, 209 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: and let's sit down and negotiate that. By the way, 210 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: before I forget this to your earlier point, AJ, people 211 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: will irrationally hate whatever they want to hate. But you're 212 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: absolutely right. You look at the core of this Dodger team, 213 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: Mookie Bets, Freddie Freeman, Shohey Otani, Clayton Kershaw also bound 214 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,559 Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame. Dave Roberts is going to 215 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: get in when you look at his overall record there's 216 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: five Hall of Famers, and no rational person can say 217 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: a bad word about any of them. They conduct themselves 218 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: with class and complete respect for the game. People should 219 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: celebrate that in this era. Yeah, it's a good call. 220 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: Those guys are quite likable. 221 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 2: I know that's that's where the rub is in this series, 222 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: because Toronto has a bunch of good likable guys too. 223 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,439 Speaker 2: But we had Shane Bibron, he was awesome, right, We've 224 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 2: had Max, We've had Jeff, we'vet Hoffman. 225 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 4: We've had all these. 226 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: Guys consistent winners, though, so it gives them something to 227 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 3: root against with the Dodgers, I do believe that side 228 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 3: of the equation. 229 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: Bob, to take a. 230 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 3: Turn here, you didn't call postseason ball for the first 231 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: time in a while. 232 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: Did you miss it? I missed a little bit being 233 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: around the game, But we talked about this before, and 234 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to belabor it. If you respect the 235 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: game and you respect your craft, you want to reach 236 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: your standard, or at least come close to it. And 237 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: I think that my standard in a number of areas, 238 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: but one of them was calling baseball was pretty high 239 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: and I tried as best I could, but I couldn't 240 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: consistently reach that standard. If you let me edit all 241 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: the games, it just put together, here's the best hour 242 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: of these three. And you know, then it might have 243 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 1: sounded just like it always did, or pretty close. But 244 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: I knew I just couldn't do it as well as 245 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: I wanted to anymore. You know, father time is undefeated. 246 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: I can still do the other things, a number of 247 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: them pretty much as well as I ever did, but 248 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: I just can't. I couldn't reach that standard. And that 249 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: was my own decision. No one forced me into it. 250 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: There was no pressure of any kind. That was my 251 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: own decision. And as I may have told you guys, 252 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: I made it a year and a half before the 253 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: twenty four season. As soon as the twenty three season 254 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: was over with, or toward the end of that season, 255 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: I said, next year will be my last one, and 256 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: I was only just hoping to end on some kind 257 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: of grace note that I could feel good about. You know, 258 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: it's maybe a tortured analogy. I'm hoping that Clayton Kershaw 259 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: gets into at least one game. I hope it's at 260 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: Dodger Stadium, and I hope he sets the side down one, two, three, 261 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: and it could be a lopsided game and just a 262 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: mop up role. But he walks off the mound in 263 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: that scenario feeling good about that moment. Now, even if 264 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: he came in and gave up four straight home runs 265 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: and then was pulled, that doesn't change the truth about 266 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: his Hall of Fame career. But you want to feel 267 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: good about the ending, and I didn't quite manage that. 268 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: And it's only because of it's baseball. You know, if 269 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: I had done not so well on some other assignment, 270 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't like it because you're a professional, you care 271 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: about your craft. But because it was baseball, you know, 272 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: it was a little more emotional for me in that respect, 273 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: and I just I wish I could have done better. 274 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 1: But I did do my best, but my best was 275 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: no longer good enough. 276 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 5: Baseball is a place in everybody's heart, and you have 277 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:08,239 Speaker 5: a place in everybody's head calling games. So I appreciate 278 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 5: that from you. And I never saw anything that was 279 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 5: different so or heard anything that was different. 280 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: That's nice. That's nice of you. You know, by the way, 281 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: when when you know your form of players, you put 282 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: yourself in a situation, whatever the game situation is that 283 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: you're watching. I can't help but think, boy, Brian Anderson 284 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: did a great job on that Otani call. You can't 285 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: just say going, going, gone, your boilerplate call. He understood 286 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 1: the moment and he framed it with his call. There's 287 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: so many good young broadcasters. Kevin Brown who does the Orioles, 288 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: he did earlier series. You the group that you were 289 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: with AJ and then in that threesome. And I love 290 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: the story though about getting ejected from a game. I 291 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: like it when guys get anecdotal as opposed to always analytical, 292 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: and you're talking about how you had to explain it 293 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: to your son, like why you got to go out 294 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: of the game and edit what you actually said to 295 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: the umpire. I love that kind of stuff that colors baseball. 296 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: And there are so many good broadcasters. Now, I don't 297 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: need to take up any more space. 298 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 5: All right, Well, you were watching the last series. Let's 299 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 5: let's hear what you have to say about, anecdotally or 300 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 5: analytically about the move that Dan Wilson made to pitch 301 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 5: not their best two relievers and go with the Gizarno, 302 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 5: a good reliever but not their best. What were you 303 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 5: saying to yourself as. 304 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: You're watching it? Not a second. Guess in the moment, 305 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there right what are they doing? You've 306 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: got to go to Muno's in that situation. People have 307 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: been saying this forever, even in some regular season games. 308 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you use your best guy when the game 309 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: is on the line. There runners on second and third. 310 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: Even if Munos can't finish the game, if he gets 311 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: you out of that and then he pitches the eighth, okay, 312 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: then you can bring somebody else in in the interim. 313 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: No one ever met men this. What if we score again? 314 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: What if we pad our lead a little bit? So 315 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: then there's less pressure on Brash or Bizardo or whomever 316 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: you bring in the game. And the series and the 317 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: season are on the line right now, you have to 318 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: go with your best and there is stats to show 319 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: you know. This was the third time in the series 320 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: that Springer had faced Bizardo. He had never faced Muno's 321 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: during the series. So you guys know better than I 322 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: having that second third look at a guy and his 323 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: repertoire on what he's going after you with. And if 324 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: you talk about a reliever, the reliever generally comes in 325 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: there with two or three pitches. Max starters have have more. 326 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: There are quantifiable stats to indicate that the idea of 327 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: multiple looks at a pitcher definitely helps the hitter. So 328 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: that's another factor in this situation. Look, Dan Wilson did 329 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: a very good job got them to the cusp of 330 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: the World Series, but I can't follow the rationale in 331 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: not going to Muno's and that's situation. 332 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: Hey, Bob, you live in southern California, so you're part 333 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: of Los Angeles, okay, because you know they like the 334 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: Anaheim Angels are part of Los Angeles, Like they're not 335 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: even close, but you know there's still the Los Angeles 336 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 2: Angels of Anaheim, which I've yet to figure out. But 337 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: have you seen what's going on with them? The no 338 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: air conditioning thing, one year contract for their manager, Like, 339 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: do you follow it all? Because this is a great 340 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: soap opera. The lawsuit thing is that's happening. I mean, 341 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: this is all happening in the same time. It's it's craziness. 342 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're kind of a star crossed franchise. You know, 343 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: they signed Albert Pooholes. He's still at his peak. He 344 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: became a good player, but not a great player like 345 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: he was in all those incredibly epic years with the Cardinals. 346 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: They they retained Trout, they tried to some extent to 347 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: retain Otani. They signed Rendon coming off a great year 348 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: when the Nats won the World Series, and Rendon decides 349 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to play baseball anymore. You can't say 350 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: that Artie Moreno wasn't trying. And then the lawsuit thing 351 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: which was tossed in there. I don't know if the 352 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 1: one year deal for Suzuki indicates that we'll see what 353 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: happens after a potential lockout. It's not exactly a vote 354 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: of confidence, you know. I know he's a respected guy 355 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: around baseball, but when all the players have much more 356 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: security than the manager does, I don't know that it 357 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: helps the situation. But I'm looking at this from a distance. 358 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't have any insight info. 359 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: This episode of Foul Territory is brought to you by 360 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 3: Fox One. Fox one is now live stream all of 361 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: your Fox favorites together in one place, from MLB postseason 362 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: games to the NFL on Fox to Big Noon Saturdays 363 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 3: with Fox One. You get it all live. Start your 364 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 3: seven day free trial today. 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Go to Fox 374 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: one and start a seven day free trial to see 375 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: for yourself how money it is. 376 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair. 377 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: That's fair because we're before you, before you spoke to 378 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 2: us like God in our headsets, we were kind of 379 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: digging into it, so you know, we have to go 380 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: back to it after you get off. So we wanted 381 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 2: to get God's thoughts on that too, all right, before 382 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: we speaking of God, used to. 383 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: Work for NBC back back in this ya. 384 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: You used to do the NBA and it was kind 385 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 2: of when I was growing up, it was Jordan, and 386 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: before that it was Magic and Larry and that whole thing. 387 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: But Jordan was kind of the guy that like kind 388 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: of took the NBA to the next Your thoughts on 389 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 2: him doing broadcasting because he kicked it off the other 390 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: night and he sat down to the story he gave 391 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: about having to shoot the free throw and being nervous. 392 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 4: I thought was awesome, And I know Michael, You know, Michael. 393 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 4: How cool is it that he's going to be on 394 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 4: TV telling kind of his mindset. 395 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: It's really cool. I think the way they're going to 396 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: use him and this is the smart way to use him. 397 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: Mike Tariko went down to Florida and interviewed him for 398 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: like two hours, and they'll release a lot of that 399 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: in little three and four minute chunks like they did 400 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: on the first game on Tuesday night. What you want 401 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: him for is historical overview. You don't want him to 402 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: break down the first half. Someone else can do that 403 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: at halftime. But you want his view on how the 404 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: game has changed. You want to pose this kind of 405 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: question to him, I would think, and maybe Mike did 406 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: somewhere along the line. If the Bulls at their peak 407 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,159 Speaker 1: play the Warriors at their peak? Who guards Curry and 408 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: who guards you? Then you move to the edge of 409 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: your seat to hear Jordan's answer. You don't want to 410 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: waste Michael Jordan's time by saying the Celtics had a 411 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: cold shooting first half, what should they do in the 412 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: second half? The zillion guys who can analyze that. You 413 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: want the stories and and the the insight from a 414 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: big picture perspective. For Michael Jordan, I wouldn't expect except 415 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: maybe on the conference finals. Uh espn ABC has the finals, 416 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: but NBC has the conference finals. Except for the conference finals, 417 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect to see Michael at the scene at all. 418 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: I think he'll just, you know, do something from a 419 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: distance if he does it, and the great majority of 420 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: what he'll do, at least during the regular season is 421 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: already in the can. In that long interview he did 422 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: with Tariko, that's a good call. 423 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 4: Look, it was awesome. 424 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: If you saw that interview, it was awesome where he's like, 425 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 2: I had to shoot free throws. I sold my but 426 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 2: he said he sold his house and the guy or 427 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: something and he had to shoot a free throw for 428 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 2: this kid, and he's like, I was shaking in my boots. 429 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: It was aj aj, you're you're connected to one of 430 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: my few public athletic moments because you couldn't you couldn't 431 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: turn my wild pitch, which really could have been a 432 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: pass ball. You couldn't snare it. Okay, this reminds me 433 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about Jordan. This is the truth. And there 434 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: were witnesses. Larry Bird Night at Boston Garden nineteen ninety 435 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: two or ninety three. So I'm the MC. There's no game, 436 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 1: but Boston Garden's completely sold out. Magic Johnson shows up 437 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: as a surprise. All of Bird's Celtic teammates are there 438 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: through the years. So we do a rehearsal in the 439 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: afternoon at the garden. And now I'm walking off and 440 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: there's a rack of balls and I say, toss me 441 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: the balls. We're gonna shoot some free throws. I hit 442 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: ten for ten and walked off. I have very few highlights. 443 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 1: That's one of them. Ten for ten hours before Larry Birdnight. 444 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: Wait, did anyone see this, because that's like me saying 445 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 2: I played golf and I made a hole in one. 446 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 4: But I was playing by myself. 447 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: So yes, there were witnesses. There were witnesses. I'm sure 448 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: they would sign an Affi David. 449 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 4: All right, the DA in NDA. They signed in DA. 450 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: In fairness, In fairness. I was at the University of 451 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: Indiana a couple of years ago, I had a niece 452 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: who was graduating, and so I went to the arena 453 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 1: there with their sports information guy and we're chatting, and 454 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: I said, Hey, I haven't shot a long time. Let 455 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: me take ten. And I only made five. So I 456 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: was hot on bird Night, but thirty years later I 457 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: wasn't close to it. Was good. 458 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 4: Ten for ten though, And you walk yes or no, Bob? 459 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 4: Were you doing the Olympics. 460 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: No? No, not not in Milan, not the Winter Olympics, 461 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, with the with the domestic Olympics in twenty 462 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: twenty eight, you know, I think that NBC will lean 463 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: into some of the nostalgia of it. I would assume 464 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: that almost every prominent American Summer Olympian would be there. 465 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: You expect to see Michael Phelps there, and Simone Biles 466 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,919 Speaker 1: and Carl Lewis and all that sort of stuff. And 467 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: I would imagine, just as they'll do with the NBA, 468 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: that they'll lean into some of their broadcasting history. So, 469 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: assuming I'm still upright, and sometimes people can't tell when 470 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: I'm upright, I'm sitting now, but if I'm still able 471 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: to do it, I would imagine that I might drop 472 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: by now and then in twenty eight in Los Angeles. 473 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: Good, I know who to call for tickets, and I 474 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: wanted to know, so I wanted to do yes. 475 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 3: But Bobby look great. So it's always a pleasure. You know, 476 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 3: we appreciate it. I know that we are we are 477 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 3: to do with how we do the show and all 478 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: of that. 479 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: So thanks for That's just because that's Scott. That's because 480 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm technophobic. You know, I had a flip phone until 481 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: seven or eight years ago, so I can't figure anything 482 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: out except for a simple zoom. So that was my 483 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,880 Speaker 1: only condition. I'll do the show anytime you guys ask, 484 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: but it has to be on a simple zoom and 485 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: before we run here just the thought the last time 486 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: I was on, which was before the season started, And 487 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, you can't place too much credence in comments, 488 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: but foolishly I looked at some of the comments after 489 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 1: that appearance, and I guess this is just natural. One 490 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: of the subjects was Soto and then also Otani, and 491 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: people infer wrongly that because you work for MLB network, 492 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: you're automatically just chirping a party line. But anyone that 493 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: knows anything about me knows that I've always said whatever 494 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: I think politely, I hope, But when interviewing commissioners or 495 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: whatever it is, my opinions are my own. They're not 496 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: something that's issued from the commissioner's office. So when I 497 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: had said a year before that that it's good for 498 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: baseball that Otani signed with the Dodgers, that's just true overall. 499 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: Look at what he's brought to the game overall. If 500 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: he was in a smaller market, just figured to say 501 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: that some way there was a way that a smaller 502 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: market could entice him to be there. Then you don't 503 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: get the ripple effect. And now it's more than a 504 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: ripple effect. He's going to get booed. In Toronto. People 505 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: thought that I and others were dissing the Blue Jays 506 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: because apparently they were in the mix for Otani, like 507 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: oh you know Canada, or oh you don't like the 508 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: Blue Jays, or oh you're in the dodgers hip pocket. No, 509 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: it's an objective assessment of what this means, not just 510 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: for the Dodgers, but for baseball. This is good for 511 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: baseball overall. No one's Michael Jordan. But when Michael Jordan 512 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: was at his peak in the nineties, the other teams 513 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 1: in the NBA should have chipped in and helped the 514 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: Bulls pay his salary because he was good for the league, 515 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: not just good for the Bulls. Otani is good for baseball, 516 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,679 Speaker 1: not just in America but internationally, and now that Toronto's 517 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: in it, that's good for baseball internationally. And let them 518 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: boo their lungs out. Luckily for him, he's going to 519 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: start at Dodger Stadium, but they're still going to have 520 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: to contend with him at the plate. So you know, 521 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: one of the things I'm just I just like to 522 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: talk baseball. You can stop me whatever you want. When 523 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: people talked about when people talked about what's comparable to 524 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: the three homer game and the six shutout endings with 525 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: the ten strikeouts, there's nothing directly comparable. And the postseason 526 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: and the spotlight matters. But as you guys know, Rick 527 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: Wise once pitched a no hitter that was a near 528 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: perfect game. Only one guy reached and he hit two 529 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 1: home runs in the game. Still doesn't match with Tani, 530 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: but that never comes up in this conversation. The other 531 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: one would be Gibson pitching perfect game in nineteen sixty 532 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 1: seven to win it for the Cardinals in game seven 533 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 1: at Fenway Park. So he pitches a complete game. It's 534 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: this third complete game of the series, all three of 535 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: them wins, and he hits a homer at Fenway Park. 536 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: He was a good hitting pitcher. But just citing those things, 537 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: as remarkable as they are, is proof. You know, Poohol's 538 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: going five for six in a World Series game in 539 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: twenty eleven and three of them are homers. All those 540 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: incredible things. Reggie hitting three homers on the pitch first 541 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: pitch three times in the last game in seventy seven, 542 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: as great as all those things are. Well, Tani Trump's 543 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: the Hall. 544 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: That was the beauty and it was a good history lesson. 545 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 3: We did segments on it just to bring up the 546 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: amazing feats in baseball in the past. 547 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 4: We do have to jump. 548 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: You're right, I'm getting the producer. 549 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 4: This was great. 550 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 551 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 4: We need to make you a regular on here so 552 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 4: we can put them back. Now. 553 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: We got the now, we got the zoom and the 554 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 3: iPad set up. We're going to go now. 555 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: Yea happen a hundred people call my people? 556 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 4: You got it? Sorry, thanks bothering the series. 557 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 1: See you guys.