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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Wes Shuler, Matt Williamson with you here on

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Speaker 2: a Monday as we have to get into it. Packers

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Speaker 2: thirty five, Steelers twenty five. The Steelers drop their second

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Speaker 2: straight contest to fall to four and three. And Matt,

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Speaker 2: what listen was was not a disaster from start to finish. Now,

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Speaker 2: certainly was a different story in the second half thousand percent.

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Speaker 3: And I'll be frank, I'm gonna say a lot of

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Speaker 3: bad things about what happened over these next two hours

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Speaker 3: and probably these next five days, but let's start with

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Speaker 3: something good. Hey, you know, and what might as well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you told me that was Josh Jacob's statline,

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Speaker 3: you know, when when the game ended and Micah Parsons

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Speaker 3: made a play or two, you know, he certainly did.

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Speaker 3: Those were probority one and two. You know, I mean,

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Speaker 3: like you accomplished some things he set out to do.

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Speaker 3: And I still think the offense overall and the special

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Speaker 3: teams are strengths of the football team. But I mean

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Speaker 3: there's many other layers. And again, I you know, the

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Speaker 3: Steelers were winning this game at halftime, they were winning

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Speaker 3: this game at the end of the third quarter. They

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Speaker 3: were running the football, they were controlling time of possession

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Speaker 3: in the first half, and then a tightal weight hit.

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Speaker 3: You know, of just a lot of bad things in

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Speaker 3: a row, and against a good team, some of them

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Speaker 3: out of your control. These bad things, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 3: but that happens every week. I'm not making excuses. They

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Speaker 3: overcome them physically or mentally or emotionally, you know, I

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Speaker 3: mean they crumbled and that they let the title wave

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Speaker 3: ruin the city. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's one of those Mondays where it feels like

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Speaker 2: there's more traffic. Nobody's letting you merge when.

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Speaker 3: You're getting on the hight right right right.

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Speaker 2: You know, the barristas at your favorite coffee place are

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Speaker 2: all honked off and not smiling like they typically are

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Speaker 2: in the morning.

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Speaker 4: Because I think you're right.

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Speaker 2: It went from a fun atmosphere, a highly anticipated game,

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Speaker 2: you're up sixteen to seven, you're up to scores nine

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Speaker 2: points at halftime, to like you, I mean, you're.

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Speaker 5: More than hanging with absolutely, yeah, absolutely, And you know

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Speaker 5: what we're gonna talk like, Matt, We're gonna spend so

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Speaker 5: much time today, so much time tomorrow, probably even longer

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Speaker 5: into the week, talking about this defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, where's the stars.

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Speaker 3: It's very frustrating.

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Speaker 4: What's going wrong.

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Speaker 2: It's very frustrating, and it feels like it's moving in

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Speaker 2: the opposite Some of the things that even that we

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Speaker 2: felt like they had been more buttoned up in the

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Speaker 2: last couple of weeks started going the opposite way again,

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Speaker 2: like just pour tackling all over the place. At times

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Speaker 2: it looked like they were trying to play flag football

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Speaker 2: or two hand touch. Before we get into any of that, You,

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Speaker 2: I thought laid this out really well Friday, the kind

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Speaker 2: of the Friday and the Monday that we were reacting

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Speaker 2: to that disappointing loss in Cincinnati. Okay, yeah, yeah, where

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Speaker 2: you were like, it's easy to scream about Jamar Chase

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Speaker 2: and t Higgins and what was the secondary doing and

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Speaker 2: what was the defense doing? And that wasn't good enough.

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Speaker 2: But the biggest sin you said was allowing Chase Brown

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Speaker 3: I wanted to say those exact words again. I'm glad

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Speaker 3: we're starting to get a little groove going. You and

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Speaker 3: I like it, But is it for me?

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Speaker 2: The biggest sin is continuing to have too many.

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Speaker 4: Drives end off the golden toe of Chris Boswell.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I was looking at That's where I was going. No, no, no.

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Speaker 2: In the in the twenty first century, here Chris Boswell

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Speaker 2: was on the short list of most Valuable Steelers.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he really is.

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Speaker 3: He's an all time great Steels.

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Speaker 2: He's an all time great Steeler. He's gonna lead the

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Speaker 4: Honor one day.

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Speaker 2: He's been Team MVP before, all these different things. He

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Speaker 2: is outstanding. He is with Justin Tucker as I think,

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Speaker 3: But it can't be them.

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Speaker 4: Where would they be without him? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: But where would they be if they didn't need to

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Speaker 2: rely on him as much as they do? Like we

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Speaker 2: talked about so much in the start of the season,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that has been the case as of late.

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Speaker 4: And it's like, I don't even know if I want

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Speaker 2: I think it would be too easy, too broad strokes

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Speaker 2: to just say they get in the plus, they get

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Speaker 2: and they go to conservative Like I think that's two

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Speaker 2: broad strokes, but they too off in the you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of lead up to the red the twenty yards

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Speaker 2: before the red zone end up settling. It's a fort

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Speaker 2: forty eight yard Boswell field goal, fifty yard Boswell field goal,

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Speaker 2: fifty six yard Boswell field goal. And so again those

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Speaker 2: aren't like they're getting into the red zone and kicking

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Speaker 2: thirty two yarders. No, right, right, right, But you've got

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Speaker 2: to find a play. I put this down here, Matt,

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Speaker 2: where is it right here? Like a lot of these

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Speaker 2: scoring drives where they had the field goals from bos

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Speaker 2: seven plays, nine plays, seven plays, like, you have to

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Speaker 2: find ways you're already picking up first downs and extending

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Speaker 2: those drives. You've got to get to the back of

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Speaker 2: the end zone more often. Because sixteen seven felt good

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Speaker 2: at halftime, but in hindsight it should have been twenty

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Speaker 2: to seven. It should have been twenty four to seven.

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Speaker 3: I always do halftime notes. I dropped down all the

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Speaker 3: stats I think are most important for the halftime for

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Speaker 3: a podcast. I do after the game and I write

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Speaker 3: like three or four big notes. I'm like, they're in

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Speaker 3: a good place, but touchdowns would have been nice and hey,

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Speaker 3: and that might come back to bite you. Yeah, it did.

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Speaker 2: And maybe it wouldn't have made a difference in the law,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe Green Bay ends up winning it at

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Speaker 3: But they played different coming out of that.

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Speaker 2: If you're right, even twenty to seven, certainly twenty four

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Speaker 2: It's a completely different game. And I think we can

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Speaker 2: say that about this team a lot in the recent history,

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Speaker 2: the last handful of years, a lot has changed.

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Speaker 4: Coordinators have changed, lost or has changed, quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: Have changed, brench of weaknesses of the team.

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Speaker 2: Strengths and weaknesses of the team. One thing this song

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Speaker 2: remains the same Led Zeppelin. They're settling for field goals.

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Speaker 2: They're settling for threes too often, and it's coming back.

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Speaker 2: They've gotten away with it plenty in the past, but

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Speaker 3: Against good teams, especially against good teams, good quarterbacks, a

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Speaker 3: good offenses. Yeah, they're going to score against everybody. That's

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Speaker 3: how the league is now.

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Speaker 4: Totally.

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Speaker 3: So I don't forget I'm much or how I ever

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Speaker 3: the with the Bengals stuff was the sin was Chase Brown.

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Speaker 3: You know, remember how we would just to rewind a minute,

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Speaker 3: I'm don't go to your bars wall stuff here in

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Speaker 3: a more difficult test than Chase Brown.

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Speaker 4: That was gold number one race jump there. They did

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Speaker 4: a great job in that departy.

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Speaker 3: That's was goal number one. They accomplished it on two.

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Speaker 2: Point five yards per carry. We would all signed in

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Speaker 2: blood for that before the game exactly.

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna say this all week because it fits

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Speaker 3: the time of year. You can't give completions away like

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Speaker 3: their Halloween candy. I mean, that's what it is. I mean, like,

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you do on offense, what you

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Speaker 4: No you're not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, I mean they scored every second

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Speaker 3: half possession that mattered. You know. That's now the sin

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Speaker 3: I overlooked. I said, Chase is the best in the league.

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Speaker 3: Jordan got sixty on you. I can live with that,

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Speaker 3: can't live with the Chase Brown stuff. Well, now the

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Speaker 3: tenth best player in the league's getting sixty audio. That's

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Speaker 3: a problem, you know what I mean? Anyway, So I

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Speaker 3: don't envy Tomlin. But as he has said, that's why

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Speaker 3: I'm all compensated, you know, And that's why he's been

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Speaker 3: doing this a long time. He's won a lot of

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Speaker 3: himself in the mirror today and say, Okay, do I

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Speaker 3: have to coach differently because my defense thinks, you know,

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Speaker 3: like especially on a down to down basis, Like I've

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Speaker 3: trust those guys to no end, and they've bailed me

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Speaker 3: out a thousand times and I'm not singling them out.

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Speaker 3: They've been here a long time and they're awesome, you know.

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Speaker 3: But this Tomlin, who without question is the most conservative

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Speaker 3: coach on fourth downs, he will punt more than anyone

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Speaker 3: out there. Now, conservative doesn't mean bad, contrary to popular belief.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you just go forward every fourth down

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Speaker 3: now come the realization of if I can't trust this

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Speaker 3: I can't play for field goals anymore, no, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we're never gonna win the race in the

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Speaker 3: end on the point race. And okay, Aaron, we love you.

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Speaker 3: You're playing well. But still the offense isn't exactly but

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Speaker 3: definitely isn't real capable. Nor are most, but this one

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Speaker 3: less than most. You take a penalty and it's third

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Speaker 3: and twelve, you take a sack, you have a tackle

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Speaker 3: for loss. You know, inevitable bad things, but they have

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Speaker 3: to stay ahead of the chains. But he might have

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Speaker 3: to start looking at things like, okay, well I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: need four downs to do it now instead of three? Sure,

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Speaker 3: you know, and if.

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Speaker 4: Paint the barn red when you got red paint.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's the best thing we are going for us,

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Speaker 3: is you st the beauty of those type of things

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Speaker 3: is I hate the tush bush, but they're the best

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Speaker 3: example is the Eagles. Know if I get to second

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Speaker 3: and six, or if I get to third and six,

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Speaker 3: I can run the ball twice, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like you just change here, Yeah, four here. The Lions

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Speaker 3: are a great example, Like these are the best offense

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Speaker 3: is in the league, don't get me wrong. And that's

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Speaker 3: where Tomlin's got to be like, well, my offense isn't

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Speaker 3: quite as high powered as those, but I might need

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Speaker 3: four downs to get me those ten yards and I

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Speaker 3: might have to play call accordingly. All right, third and two.

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Speaker 3: I can take a shot here because I know I'm

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Speaker 3: going to run the ball next time. You know what

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Speaker 3: I mean when crowd in the bottles, well it's huge, right,

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Speaker 3: everyone crowds a box against GiB the Montgomery. I'm going

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Speaker 3: convert it, I'm still going to go for it to midfield,

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Speaker 3: you know. So I think he's gonna I mean, he's

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Speaker 3: the only one that can do that. That's not a

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Speaker 3: coordinaty thing. That's not you know, that's a head coach.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the benefit we have.

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Speaker 4: I will be completely transparent.

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Speaker 4: Gotta go for it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what on earth are you thinking?

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Speaker 3: At that time, they look like the better team.

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Speaker 2: At that time, they looked like the better team. But man,

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Speaker 2: The trends, and we talk a lot about trends, right,

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Speaker 4: It's it's the National Football League. Weird things happen.

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Speaker 4: And that's the that's that's the difficult part.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's like a what am I supposed to do now?

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Speaker 2: You got you got you got to adapt. I mean,

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Speaker 3: And you're losing people with injuries.

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Speaker 2: You're long week now, ten day week from Thursday night

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you lose a quality as well too.

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Speaker 3: Sayamaluh, that's six o line, huge jumbo package. It's kind

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Speaker 4: Fine It's tough to game plan against. It's really tough game.

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Speaker 3: It's tough, but to play like a four to four

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Speaker 2: Three, especially when you know that Darnell Washington can slip

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Speaker 3: And remind me. I really want to ask some of

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Speaker 4: Is there anyone trust to that level?

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Speaker 4: Yes, correct, correct, It's a lot of questions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's where we're at on this Monday, after

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Speaker 4: Hey, if you would have you know, if you would

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Speaker 2: Us that what was it? Was it twenty six against Cleveland?

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Speaker 4: I believe right?

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Speaker 2: Was it twenty six to nine or twenty three to nine?

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Speaker 4: Ye?

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Speaker 2: But regardless out of that bye week, you were gonna

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Speaker 3: We must make fun of the Bengals last year for

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Speaker 4: Where you got to score at least thirty some points.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and you still lose half of them. You go

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Speaker 2: You know, And Matt, you could have you could have

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Speaker 3: We could have been sold that that ship sailed. You know,

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Speaker 4: Half of the league, bottom ten, bottom twelve.

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Speaker 2: And again it's it's one of those things where you

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Speaker 2: it's a massive concern. We listen, there is there is

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Speaker 4: Still. We could be singing, we could we could be

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Speaker 3: Losses and teams. I mean, there's some math stuff that works.

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Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, he's gonna strike you out twelve times.

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Speaker 2: It's just going to happen, right, But it might have

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Speaker 6: You got to.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes the only way to get through it, Matt, is

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Speaker 3: They have the right people to come out on the

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Speaker 4: Twenty nine thirty seven.

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Speaker 3: he completed like nine oh ten Halloween candy, dude.

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Speaker 4: It's too easy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can't just hand them out.

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Speaker 4: Jordan loves a good quarterback.

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Speaker 2: He's a a good quarterback's it's not Patrick Mahomes, right,

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Speaker 3: Right, right, right. You know Laco was hot too, and

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Speaker 2: Everybody has bad to everybody has good days. Everybody has

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Speaker 2: bad days. They're humans. But Thursday on the road, you know, alright,

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Speaker 2: starting to become a trend, and an alarming one at that.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about all these things and more with

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Speaker 2: our buddy Rob King, the Voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 2: when we return.

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Speaker 4: We have got plenty to get to today as we continue.

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Speaker 2: To react to the Steelers falling for the second straight

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Speaker 2: week twenty five to thirty five to the Green Bay

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Speaker 2: Packers on Sunday Night Football. West Ruler Matt Williamson, we'll

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Speaker 2: talk to Rob King on the other side. It is

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here as we roll along, reacting

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Speaker 2: to Sunday Night Football at disappointing loss for your Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Joining us now to discuss it is the voice of

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Speaker 2: your Pittsburgh Steelers, Rob King. You, of course hear him

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Speaker 2: every morning in the locker room and on the calls

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Speaker 2: with Max Stark's and Missy Matthews throughout the season. Kinger frustrating, one, disappointing,

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Speaker 2: one wild one there at Akershuer Stadium last night. I

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Speaker 2: think a whole bunch of different ways to go. Matt

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Speaker 2: and I got into some of that in the open here,

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Speaker 2: and we'll kind of continue to dissect this thing as

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Speaker 2: we roll along. But hasn't even been twenty four hours yet.

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Speaker 2: It's been like ten hours since that game ended, twelve

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Speaker 2: hours something like that. I don't know my math is off,

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Speaker 2: but what's your biggest takeaway as we sit here on

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Speaker 2: a Monday afternoon.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it's funny to get I was. I

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Speaker 6: was on DV this morning too, and you know, and

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Speaker 6: then on earlier with Matt for the program that's that

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Speaker 6: we take that's going to run later tonight. The point after,

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Speaker 6: I'm and Max in the locker room, and I'd forgotten

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Speaker 6: that the Steelers really played an excellent first half of

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Speaker 6: football and actually had a lead going into the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 6: although the tide was turning against them even when they

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Speaker 6: had that lead going into the fourth quarter. You know,

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Speaker 6: you want to try to accentuate some positives I don't

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Speaker 6: know as that's really possible. I do think that, you know,

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Speaker 6: the offense did some good things. They were able to

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Speaker 6: run the football against a top run defense, the second

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Speaker 6: best run defense in the league. They had opportunities. But look, man,

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Speaker 6: this is a league that's about winning, and the Stitis

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Speaker 6: are now lost to in a row, and they've surrendered

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Speaker 6: a ton of points, and they just have not looked

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Speaker 6: defensively anything like we expected the Steelers to look defensively,

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Speaker 6: or certainly I expected him to look this year. And

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Speaker 6: you look up now they've played seven games and in

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Speaker 6: four of them they've given up thirty or more points.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the wrong team is coming to town in

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Speaker 3: terms of producing thirty points, by the way, But we'll

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Speaker 3: get too far ahead of ourselves. Rob that show you

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Speaker 3: mentioned that we do with Mike Pursuda, Mike and I

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Speaker 3: thought it a really astute observation that if you had

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Speaker 3: to look at one point where the tides turned, it

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Speaker 3: was Love just kind of chucking up a arm punt,

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Speaker 3: you know, almost gets sacked. That could have been a

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Speaker 3: very positive play for the defense. Tucker Craft, who we've

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Speaker 3: warned people last week, is a fantastic young player. Rips

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Speaker 3: the ball down is a man among boys, takes it

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Speaker 3: down the field for a big game and literally insult injury.

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Speaker 3: Elliott get hurt on that play, and everyone's heads are hanging,

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Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 6: I think they're you know, yes, and we thought that

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Speaker 6: way last night as well calling the game. But I

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Speaker 6: will say this too, you know, and I know that

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Speaker 6: are a very good team. They're one of the best

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Speaker 6: teams in the NFL. Ye have to find a way

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Speaker 6: to stem the tide. And this Diders did come back

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Speaker 6: and they marched down and they kicked the field goal,

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Speaker 6: but the Packers kept coming and kept coming and kept coming,

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Speaker 6: and this Diders just they didn't have enough answers, penalties, sacks,

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Speaker 6: you know, a fumble when you still had one last

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Speaker 6: gasp to try to win the game or get back

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Speaker 6: in the game late in the game, to game well,

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Speaker 6: fumble just you know, you've got to find a way. Injuries, right, well,

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Speaker 6: other teams have injuries too, because you know, go back

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Speaker 6: to the Bengals in Week two, they lose Joe Burrow

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Speaker 6: and they come from behind to win the game. Joe

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Speaker 6: Burrow is basically that team. You know, they've invested all

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Speaker 6: that money in Burrow and yes, of course the receivers

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Speaker 6: I understand that, but that's what they're built to do.

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Speaker 6: And then Chase Browning comes in and wins the game.

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Speaker 6: So no one feels sorry for you that you have injuries.

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Speaker 6: And look, I think Deshaun Elliott is a significant injury.

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Speaker 6: I think the world of them as a player, I

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Speaker 6: think is importance level to the Steers defense. It's hard

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Speaker 6: to overstate how important he is. There there are just

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Speaker 6: you know, siamalu uh not. Not only is he hurt,

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Speaker 6: but now it takes a jumbo package out of play,

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Speaker 6: a quality obviously, a guy that has had a good year.

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Speaker 6: It is a has been a very good rotational player

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Speaker 6: for the Steelers. But but you've got to find a

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Speaker 6: way to stem the tide. You've got to find a

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Speaker 6: way to fight back. And and you know that's what

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Speaker 6: happens in heavyweight battles with good teams, and the Steers

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Speaker 6: just weren't able to find a way after that craft play.

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Speaker 6: You know, there have been a couple of things of adversity,

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Speaker 6: right the off side play that wasn't the off side

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Speaker 6: play where Aaron Rodgers figured he could take a shot

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Speaker 6: down field and mystifyingly, no flag was thrown. And it's

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Speaker 6: not like the Steelers showed no fight. They just didn't

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Speaker 6: have enough in them to stem the tide through injuries

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Speaker 6: and through momentum and other things, uh, to come back

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Speaker 6: and win the game.

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Speaker 3: And Rob on that show, this is an unforgiving league.

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Speaker 3: And I made the joke when we were having that conversation,

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Speaker 3: it's like goodfellas. I mean, oh, you got hit by lightning.

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Speaker 3: Pay me, you know, Oh nobody cares, you know, and

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Speaker 3: and nobody cares, and maybe you overcome those obstacles, see

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Speaker 3: them all oo, et cetera. You know, against the Browns,

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Speaker 3: but you're not against the top tier teams, that's right.

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Speaker 6: And and there's the Steelers aren't the only team getting

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Speaker 6: bad breaks. They aren't the only team getting injuries. And

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Speaker 6: you know, you understand the fact that those are factors, right,

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Speaker 6: but you know, factors can't be excuses. And if you're

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Speaker 6: a fan saying, well, if we got this call or

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Speaker 6: that call, or well, that's just not the way it works.

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Speaker 6: You've just got to find a way. And the Steelers,

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Speaker 6: you know, in the last two weeks, just didn't find

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Speaker 6: a way. Last week, they had an opportunity early on

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Speaker 6: to extend the lead against Cincinnati, uh didn't do it.

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Speaker 6: This week, they had opportunities even with the halftime lead,

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Speaker 6: to extend the lead against Green Bay have a bigger

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Speaker 6: halftime lead, and they didn't do it. Okay, that's one

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Speaker 6: factor for sure, and those aren't small factors. But then

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Speaker 6: you've also got to find a way to come back

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Speaker 6: and come up with a defensive stop. Last week, the

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Speaker 6: Steaders that you know, as much as they they felt

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Speaker 6: like they maybe really could have handled the Bengals and

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Speaker 6: blown them out early. They didn't, but they still had

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Speaker 6: a chance to steal the win late. I would have

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Speaker 6: felt like, hey, you walk out of Paid Court Stadium

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Speaker 6: with a win. You stole one. You needed to stop

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Speaker 6: defensively at the end of the game. You didn't get it.

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Speaker 6: So complimentary football, turnover battles, lack of fat splash plays,

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Speaker 6: lack of finding a way to stem the tide, all

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Speaker 6: these things have been part of what have causes to

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Speaker 6: this to lose the last two games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kinger, and you know that's he touched on something

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Speaker 2: there that I think is important, and it's you know

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Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to be screaming and hooting,

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Speaker 2: hollering and yelling about the defense today.

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Speaker 6: And I get it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying those people are that's where the money's spent.

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Speaker 2: That's where most of the the all pros and the

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Speaker 2: stars of this offense are. And that's just a Pittsburgh

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Speaker 2: Steelers thing. It's our birthright to have a good defense

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Speaker 2: in this town and has been since the seventies, right,

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Speaker 2: But they have gotten away for years now with settling

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Speaker 2: for threes off the Golden toe of Chris Boswell. And

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Speaker 2: Matt says this best. He's said it a few times

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Speaker 2: since training camp. It's great that Chris Boswell is reliable

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Speaker 2: and as amazing as he is, thank God, thank goodness.

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Speaker 2: But I don't want him to be team MVP, you know,

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Speaker 2: like they have so many times throughout the years, gotten

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Speaker 2: away with winning games off of good defense in the

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Speaker 2: Golden toe against Chris Boswell. They won the season opener

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Speaker 2: in Atlanta a couple of years ago. Eighteen points from

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Speaker 2: Boswell was enough to get it done.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think that that game in Denver last year, they

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Speaker 2: scored one touchdown, but then it was Boswell the rest

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Speaker 2: of the way. Heck, guys, they won a playoff game

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Speaker 2: in Kansas City one year, just off of Chris Boswell's

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Speaker 2: toe without scoring a touchdown. But you kind of touched

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Speaker 2: on it there.

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Speaker 3: King.

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Speaker 2: It's sixteen to seven at the half, and yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: feeling good at that point. You're up more than one possession.

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Speaker 2: But it should have been twenty to seven. It should

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Speaker 2: have been twenty four to seven. And I realized these

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Speaker 2: aren't twenty seven yard field goals that Chris Boswell was hitting.

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Speaker 2: They were from forty eight. They were from fifty they

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Speaker 2: were from fifty six. When you get into plus territory,

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Speaker 2: when you get close to the red zone or into

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Speaker 2: the red zone, they have got to find ways to

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Speaker 2: turn threes into sevens more often. They've gotten away with

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Speaker 2: it for so many years. But I just don't think

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Speaker 2: they can anymore.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think, yeah, I you know, there's the what

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Speaker 6: did John F. Kennedy say, Ask not what your country

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Speaker 6: can do for you, ask what you could do for

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Speaker 6: your country. Well, for years it's been you know, the

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Speaker 6: only thing you have to ask for is your defense. Right.

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Speaker 6: So it's a close game and you've got, you know,

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Speaker 6: maybe some quarterback play that is up to snuff, or

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Speaker 6: you don't think it's up to snuff post Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you could even say post bend surgery. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know how you want to parse it up.

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Speaker 6: But the comfort level was Mike Tomlin, who remember early on,

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Speaker 6: was an aggressive coach, like he had he had Ben,

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Speaker 6: and he had a B and he had lebon bell

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Speaker 6: and he was going for two and and and being aggressive.

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Speaker 6: And you know, he's had faith in this defense, and

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Speaker 6: it's a highly paid defense, and he had faith in

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Speaker 6: the in the defense coming into the season. He probably

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Speaker 6: still has faith in the defense. Right that that is

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Speaker 6: by definition what faith is believing in something that you

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Speaker 6: that you haven't seen, right, And so you know, maybe

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Speaker 6: maybe that isn't anymore. Maybe maybe it's not asked your

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Speaker 6: defense can do for you, but what you can do

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Speaker 6: for your defense. Maybe maybe they do need to be

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Speaker 6: more aggressive in going for things. Maybe it isn't punted

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Speaker 6: away and let our defense hang on to this win.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know, I don't I don't know what

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Speaker 6: the answer is. I do know that the answer is

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Speaker 6: not what we've seen the last two games. You know,

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Speaker 6: the offense has been good, but there's been moments the

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Speaker 6: defense is not really good, and there's been moments where

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Speaker 6: they could have maybe been helped out by the offense.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know, and I'm sure they're searching.

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Speaker 6: Francis right now, what do we do to get back

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Speaker 6: in the win column because the schedule is not going

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Speaker 6: to get any easier. You're still in first place. One

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Speaker 6: victory and we're singing a different tune. One win over

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Speaker 6: the Colts, and we're singing a different tune. But you

656
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 6: got to find a way to beat the Colts, and

657
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 6: you got to find a way to play better football

658
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Speaker 6: in order to beat the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Gonna be an interesting six or so days here leading

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Speaker 2: up to that one o'clock kickoff at akershar Stadium next

661
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Speaker 2: weekend against Indianapolis. The voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers kind

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Speaker 2: enough to lend us some time here on a Monday,

663
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Speaker 2: King or thank you, and we'll talk.

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Speaker 3: To you soon.

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Speaker 4: You got it, guys, Thanks There he is there, he goes.

666
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 2: Some good stuff from him, Matt, want to talk about

667
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: some of that when we return on the other side.

668
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: Just more kind of downloading all of our thoughts from

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Speaker 2: last night's thirty five to twenty five defeat to the

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Speaker 2: green Bay Packers. We'll do that to close down the

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Speaker 2: first hour of the show. When we return, it is

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Speaker 2: the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network,

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Speaker 2: your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal. Steelers Nation Radio.

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00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here on a Monday, as we

677
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Speaker 2: roll along and recap the Steelers frustrating loss to the

678
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Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers at home on Sunday Night football.

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00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 4: It was a big one man. That place was jumping,

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00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 4: that place was juiced.

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Speaker 1: Matt.

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Speaker 2: I typically get there about four and a half hours

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Speaker 2: before kickoff, which, as you can imagine, for one o'clock games,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm getting there at eight thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure things are pretty quiet.

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00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 4: Things are pretty calm. Yeah, thirty games.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting there at you know, eleven thirty noonish, a

688
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: little bit more than a one o'clock game, but it's

689
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Speaker 2: still You've got the diehards who have been there and

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00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: set up.

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00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, but they were Tailgators are going.

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00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 4: The second wave hasn't haven't haven't called in yet.

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00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: Part lots aren't full to the burhm at that point.

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Speaker 4: Yesterday, I got down there at three o'clock.

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Speaker 2: It was backed up everywhere already, tailgates going crazy, cars everywhere,

696
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: Sidewalks were aligned.

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Speaker 4: With with with people.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this was this was a game that had

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Speaker 2: a lot of eyeballs, a lot of attention, a lot

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Speaker 2: of storylines, and man, when you win games like that,

701
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Speaker 2: it's a ton of fun.

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00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of like the Steelers in Dublin. You lose

703
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Speaker 4: games like that, it, man.

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Speaker 2: It stinks even more, I think, and kind of the

705
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Speaker 2: forty eight hours ish aftermath.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll get this out of my system. But a

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Speaker 3: little more green in the stands that I would have

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Speaker 3: liked waiting for how.

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Speaker 4: Long that was gonna come.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't there.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know if Rob King was gonna say something

712
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Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, I'm I'm man, I'm with you on that.

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00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: I made up.

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Speaker 2: I saw a bunch of green outside of the stadium,

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Speaker 2: And that's one thing because sometimes you're like, hey, maybe

716
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: they just came to town, you know, like, but yeah,

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00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: it was it was up there with I mean, I

718
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Speaker 2: remember the home opener against San Francisco a few years ago.

719
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Speaker 2: There was a lot of red in that stadium and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of Niners fans in Youngstown, Ohio, in

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Speaker 2: Northeast Ohio, the Bartolow family connection for those who aren't

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Speaker 2: familiar with that, but this might have been to another level.

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Speaker 4: And Hey, people that have season tickets.

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Speaker 3: And it's a night game and people leave in the

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Speaker 3: fourth work, you're allowed to do.

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Speaker 2: You're allowed to do what you want with your tickets.

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Speaker 2: It's the weather's a little chili, it's a late game.

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Speaker 2: But I would also say that's part of having tickets, is,

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Speaker 2: you know, is supporting the responsibility and in those in

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Speaker 2: those in those uh, in those moments, I say, as

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Speaker 2: a guy who drove down to Morgantown to watch a

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Speaker 2: two and five team and the cold as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that we're not We're not the Falcons,

734
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Speaker 3: We're not the pay Anthers Chargers.

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Speaker 2: That was a little frustrating. I realized for a lot

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Speaker 2: of Packers fans, this was like a get to say

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Speaker 2: goodbye to Aaron Rodgers, our hero type game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, if you can see why they'd

739
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 3: be super anxious to come spend the weekend in Pittsburgh.

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00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: It's like a Southern getaway from them too.

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Speaker 2: If Ben would have played Beach, if Ben would have

742
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Speaker 2: played his last season in the league. For the Detroit

743
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: Lions and the Steelers played there, there'd be a bazillion

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Speaker 2: Steelers fans, so I I I get it from that perspective.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, part of its respect for the Packers fans totally.

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Speaker 6: I said.

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Speaker 2: Just again, like I said they, I'm sure a lot

748
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: of Green Bay fans were like so, probably my last

749
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Speaker 2: chance to see Aaron Rodgers playing against my team, you know,

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Speaker 2: the guy that I loved for eighteen years.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to pay whatever it takes for tickets. Pittsburgh's

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Speaker 4: a cool town.

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Speaker 3: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right.

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Speaker 2: Good great place to spend a fall weekend in October,

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Speaker 2: you know. Uh, but yeah, that was that was something

757
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Speaker 2: that uh.

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Speaker 3: It was a little uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: Didn't love to see it.

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Speaker 2: I don't want I don't want to I don't want

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Speaker 2: to die anybody out here, all right, but but but

762
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: didn't love to see it. Uh, Matt, I tell you what,

763
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: credit where credit is due in certain instances as well.

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Speaker 2: Some of it is frustrating and poor performance on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers end. Other part of it is is as you

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00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 2: and I like to do too. I think we're pretty

767
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: good at this. The other teams have millionaires and all pros.

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Speaker 3: And it's a crime if you don't mention yes, the

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00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 3: other team, you know, come.

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Speaker 2: On, especially in this league, even the pushover the Jets

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Speaker 2: went and won a game on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's good.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's good. The Packers certainly have good players. And man,

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Speaker 2: you called it with Tucker Craft. You've been to be fair.

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00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: It wasn't just that this this, uh, this past week

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Speaker 2: that you called it. You've been singing his praises since

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Speaker 2: training camp and we do positional rankings and fantasy football

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Speaker 2: conversation and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: It was National tight Ends Day yesterday. He was the best.

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Speaker 4: He was the best tight end in the NFL. Uh

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Speaker 4: Week nine or whatever it was.

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Speaker 3: Was so and people know I do a lot of fantasy,

783
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Speaker 3: and I'm a bunch of fantasy leagues, et cetera, et cetera,

784
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Speaker 3: And I didn't want to pay up for the Bowers

785
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: of the world, et cetera. So the two tight ends

786
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Speaker 3: that I invested heavily in and told people to are

787
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Speaker 3: Craft and the guy coming to town this week, Warren

788
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: oh No, who's also fire, and we'll get into him

789
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 3: and down the road, of course. But Craft is really

790
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: really impressive, and I just wanted to pull us up.

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Speaker 3: He had one hundred and thirty one yards after the catch.

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Speaker 4: And that was something you talked about. Yeah, this guy's

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Speaker 4: a madman after the catch, and that's.

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Speaker 3: No fluke at all. He is fast, he is aggressive,

795
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: he accelerates, he is hard to bring down. He does

796
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 3: not enjoy being tackled, and he'd let you know it.

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Speaker 3: That's the third most of any position or no, it's

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Speaker 3: our best out of tight ends since the next gen era,

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Speaker 3: which is twenty sixteen. I mean it's huge and two

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Speaker 3: point eight yards yard per route run in that game,

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00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: every time he ran a route he basically got three yards.

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Speaker 3: Who's really good for a wide receiver? Two point eight

803
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: for a tight end? Whoa? But you don't lean numbers

804
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Speaker 3: to say how good he.

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Speaker 4: Was, And no, that's one of those just the eye

806
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Speaker 4: tests and showed.

807
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: It didn't listen to us or is new the show

808
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: or whatever and is like, hmmm, who's this craft guy?

809
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 3: He seems all right? Well you know now, yep, yeah

810
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: you do.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure a lot of people as they listen

812
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: to this, maybe even some of you will jump into

813
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: our Twitter mensions screaming about that missed OPI on that

814
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 2: one long game that he had. Yeah, I certainly think

815
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Speaker 2: it could have been called passing a fair offensiveassing inter

816
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: Fairce agreed without a doubt.

817
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 3: This was not the greatest officiated game, and it hurt

818
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: the Steelers more than the Packers. But that's not why

819
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Speaker 3: they lost. Just getting that off my chest.

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Speaker 2: I agree, Yeah, they missed a terrible and again this

821
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: is one of those all these things are easy to

822
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Speaker 2: say in hindsight, but this plays along with me to

823
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: the settling for threes too often in the first half conversation. Yeah,

824
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: first possession of the second half, that missed false start

825
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: where Michael Michael Parsons. They two guys off sides, not

826
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Speaker 2: Michael Parsons, but whoever the other one was.

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Speaker 4: I'm john a.

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00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,919
Speaker 3: Blank right now, don't remember either.

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Speaker 2: He's on Zach Fraser's shoulder when he snaps the ball, right,

830
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 2: I mean like it's not even close. Like he's on

831
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: Zach's shoulder when he snaps that ball. What if that

832
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: that would have given you a first down, You'd be

833
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 2: close to midfield. It's sixteen to seven at that point.

834
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: You know what if you even if you just add

835
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: another field goal, it becomes nineteen to say, like you

836
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: pick up one more first down or two and you

837
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Speaker 2: add another field goal.

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Speaker 3: This isn't wind about the ref time because and exactly

839
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 3: something I do very often on Monday.

840
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: It's not something I ever like to do either, because

841
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 2: it just feels like sour grapes. And I think ninety

842
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 2: nine point nine percent of the time, it's not the

843
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: reason you lost or won.

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Speaker 3: And the Steelers were not the better team last night.

845
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: They didn't deserve to win. This isn't big, but those

846
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 3: two plays to me are important to at least note

847
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Speaker 3: because mentioned before and I stole it from my PURSUITO

848
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Speaker 3: that I think that craft arm punt Elliott gets injured.

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00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 3: What was the biggest play the game and a major

850
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Speaker 3: turning point. And if a flag comes out and it

851
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 3: goes backwards, let's just see where the chips fall.

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Speaker 4: You still Elliott? But right, I mean at least he

853
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Speaker 4: was on a player to later.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that wasn't a great play by Love. I

855
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: mean eighteen of his twenty completions were boom, boom, boom.

856
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 3: He two great quarterbacking, but that one was. I'm in

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00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: huge trouble here. I'm just gonna chuck it up and

858
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 3: hopes my my guy makes a play. He did because

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Speaker 3: his guy's really good.

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Speaker 6: Yes.

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Speaker 3: But the other thing about the off side thing though,

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Speaker 3: which was why I think Rogers is losing his mind

863
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 3: about it, because he knew he was right. Like this

864
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,919
Speaker 3: guy's in the backfield when there That's the thing. There's

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Speaker 3: no way he even attempts that pass. He thought he

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Speaker 3: had a free play. Thought he had a free play, right,

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna drive it in the tightest window I

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Speaker 3: possibly can't. No one's done it better in the years

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Speaker 3: than that guy, you know. Like, so there was two

870
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Speaker 3: prong like I would not have done what I did,

871
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: and you missed the call.

872
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: You know, that was a that was a kind of

873
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 2: momentum zapping type type moment, as was the the Tucker

874
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: uh the Tucker Craft non call.

875
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah as well too.

876
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: But one non call doesn't make up for seven receptions

877
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty three yards, two touchdowns. He's pretty

878
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: awesome average of twenty point four yards per reception, and

879
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: that was just you know, Christian Watson four for eighty

880
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: five boost to bring him back to the average of

881
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:21,919
Speaker 2: twenty one point three.

882
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: You're real happy with your weapons right now?

883
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: If you're the Packers, Romeo Dobbs fourteen point seven average.

884
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 2: You're right, yeah, but I don't think anyone was singing

885
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 2: that tune coming into the game. You and plenty of

886
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 2: people were talking about Tucker Craft, but no one was

887
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: really talking about Watson or Dobbs like that, Like these

888
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: guys are fine NFL wid you made it, you made

889
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: it way wait, he made it.

890
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 3: Way easy, no doubt. I mean, so this is kind

891
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: of fantasy thing, but I mean, for a couple of

892
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: years now, who's the number one in Green Bay? We

893
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 3: need somebody to be a number one? Who's the difference maker? Well,

894
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 3: the number one is a tight end, yes, and they

895
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 3: know it now and the whole world knows it now,

896
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 3: and this doesn't matter anymore. But I think Jayden Reid

897
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 3: is supposed to come back next week. You got Watson

898
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: this week. Dobbs really stepped up while those guys were gone,

899
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: and isn't the one, but he was better than he

900
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: has been his career. So he leveled up a little

901
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: bit and he got a first round picking golden sitting there.

902
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, you're feeling pretty good if you're

903
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: the Packers right now in the passing game. You know,

904
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're gonna and that just isn't Steeler

905
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: related by no means might like, oh, they'll do this

906
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: every week to every team they played. No they won't,

907
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 3: you know, because they made it too easy. Yes, yes

908
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: they did, and don't make it too easy against really

909
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 3: good teams.

910
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: And I tell you what, They've got a really good

911
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: team coming to town here again in six days, so

912
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: they better.

913
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: Might be the best offense in the league.

914
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: Which I'm laughing because it sounds funny to say out loud,

915
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: right that an offense led by Daniel Jones with going

916
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: into this season. Matt, if you would have asked the

917
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: average football fan across the league, maybe you take the

918
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: Colts division out of it, because those guys see them

919
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: more often. But yeah, okay, go ahead and name me

920
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: as many Colts on the offensive side of the football

921
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 2: as you can. Jonathan Taylor, right right, maybe Quentin Nelson. Yeah,

922
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: you would have gotten an average of probably one point

923
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: five names started to drive from the casual football fan.

924
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 3: They're not gonna tell you about Josh Downs and yeah.

925
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: Correct, yeah, but that's I tell you what. It's gonna

926
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: be a captain obvious here. I'm really really digging in.

927
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a tough meeting today for the Pittsburgh Steelers,

928
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: in a tough film session, particularly for the guys on

929
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,240
Speaker 2: that defense.

930
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 3: Hang in with me for one section.

931
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 4: You better figure it out here quick.

932
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: We don't preview games on Mondays. We do not, but

933
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,439
Speaker 3: Monday morning, as I started, we got.

934
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 4: Ten more hours of radio before, right exactly.

935
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: But Monday mornings, I start really digging into the opponent,

936
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 3: much like the coaching staffs do around the league. And

937
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 3: I got about a ten sentence paragraph here on Jonathan

938
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 3: Taylor that you're okay with me reading it? Sure, because

939
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: it's gonna make me feel bad, really really terrible. It's

940
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 3: gonna make you feel Freddy Krueger Halloween Nightmares. I'm really

941
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: going with the Halloween theme today, Jaila.

942
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 2: Kramer and Seinfeld. Here's the feeling good all the time? Yeah,

943
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: you've got me, like, here's the feeling bad all the time.

944
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: Oh, it's Halloween week. You know people like scary movies.

945
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: I mean, this is Michael Meyers stuff here, and he's

946
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: coming to town.

947
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 4: Dude, here we go, Chainsaw Massacre.

948
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna read for a minute. And everyone's gonna go,

949
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: oh no, and you're gonna feel terrible for a while.

950
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: So such his life. So Jonathan Taylor rushed for one

951
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty three yards and three total touchdowns on

952
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 3: just twelve carries last week. Oh no, that's pretty good.

953
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 3: He recorded a career high eight point four yards after

954
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: first contact. Oh no, pretty good. That was his fourth

955
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: one hundred yard rushing day of the season, to go

956
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: along with fourteen total touchdowns. What yeah, wait for real,

957
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: that's where he's at right now.

958
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: I've got him on one of my big money fantasy

959
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: teams and I didn't even realize it's fourteen.

960
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: Over his past three games, he's rushed for three hundred

961
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 3: and seventy yards and is averaging seven point six yards

962
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 3: per carry. Oh no, pretty good. He's the fifth player

963
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: since the year two two thousand with at least three

964
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: scrimmage touchdowns in four games of a season, and we're

965
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: not even halfway through the year. And this is the

966
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: sixth player in NFL history with at least seventy scrimmage

967
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: touchdowns in his first seventy five games. I mean, we're

968
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 3: talking like Jim Brown, Eric Dickerson stuff. He has four

969
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: to three touchdown games this season four The rest of

970
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: the league has eight combined.

971
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 4: That's unbelievable.

972
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he scored ten touchdowns over his past four games.

973
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 4: Why is he not an MVP conversation, He's Offensive Player

974
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: of the Year.

975
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 3: That's kind of where I'm going with this.

976
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 4: It's a quarterback board, that's the answer.

977
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 3: And a couple more things here. He has five more

978
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: touchdowns than anyone else in the NFL right now.

979
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 6: Five.

980
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 3: Lord, He's responsible for four percent of all the rushing

981
00:45:55,000 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: yardage in the entire league by running backs. Thirty one

982
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: percent of his touches are resulting in first downs or touchdowns,

983
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: best in the league. He's also hit twenty miles per

984
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: hour on six occasions this league this year, most in

985
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 3: the league. He's having one of the best running years.

986
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 3: And he's not a bad receiver in NFL history. Oh no, yeah,

987
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 3: so now, Doc Jacobs, that's a good news.

988
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: You know my favorite United States Olympian ever, Paulo. Oh no,

989
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: do you remember him? He was a figure Skins the

990
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: name actually twenty years ago.

991
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh no, oh no. It's scary Halloween week and

992
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: you better get it right. Michael Myers is coming to

993
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 3: down you.

994
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 4: You better get it right because the Colts are coming

995
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 4: and they're carrying a chainsaw.

996
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 6: Yeah.

997
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 2: Hour in the books, another hour to go. I got

998
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 2: a couple you know what I've got. I've got a

999
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: question for you to start our number two, Matt, Okay,

1000
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: well we'll get into that. We've gotten about half a

1001
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 2: million tweets as well too. Maybe we'll okay, maybe we'll

1002
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: pick into some of those. We also do need to

1003
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 2: do an around the league segment an hour number two.

1004
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: Tolowouts a lot of a lot of things happening in

1005
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 2: the NFL. Say, yeah, that would have been nice. Although hey,

1006
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: the Bengals. The Bengals did drop one as well too,

1007
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: which which doesn't doesn't hurt the Steelers at all.

1008
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 4: We'll get into all that more.

1009
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 6: No.

1010
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 2: Our Number two, West Uler, Matt Williamson. It's the Drive

1011
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network