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Speaker 1: I am Chad Moman and I'll bring scooch on in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Mr Bob Scoochie. That's what's going on. That

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Speaker 1: Should I be freaking out about baseball? Right now. I would.

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Speaker 1: Everyone else said why not, Like it's so disappointing, and

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Speaker 1: I really, I really just thought like they had a

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Speaker 1: the game's being canceled. Now the NAT's saying they're afraid

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Speaker 1: to travel to Miami. I have zero confidence in Baseball's

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Speaker 1: ability to figure this out. Yeah, it's it's not looking good. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I was on the phone all day with colleagues

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Speaker 1: It's kind of everything's kind of up in the air.

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Speaker 1: And you know, like everything else this year, we're taking everything,

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Speaker 1: the things that we tried to plan for. Something will

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Speaker 1: Not unexpected, but how do you book these games like

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Speaker 1: it's and let me just let me let me say,

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Speaker 1: Give me a number three to one. Wow? Three to one.

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Speaker 1: see them finished. I'm having a hard time seeing them

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Speaker 1: starting a season, and honestly, it's not good for our

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Speaker 1: because it's still tied to academics. I mean, as much

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Speaker 1: It's not just business the way Major League Baseball in

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Speaker 1: of regions, all that good stuff. How is any university

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Speaker 1: So and that's the thing we're asking you're asking me, like,

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Speaker 1: what happens in this case, what happens if there's an outbreak?

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Speaker 1: Just here, what do we do with the rest of

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Speaker 1: I don't envy the positions that conference commissioners are in,

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Speaker 1: whether up top like the Lakers who have clinched the

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Speaker 1: number one seed and they have no motivation to play anymore.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna start resting players. Teams that are out of

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Speaker 1: no incensive to play anymore. I can see Santonio easily.

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Speaker 1: You know that that seventh that eighth game, they're out

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Speaker 1: of it. The Mardarros and sits and they start, you know,

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Speaker 1: giving guys that Kellen Johnson, uh, the young guys um

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Speaker 1: news is going to be more important than ever. It's

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Speaker 1: right on my alley, right, So explain You mentioned like

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Speaker 1: you have to react to a point spread moving, a

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Speaker 1: player total moving? Give me sort of the line the

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Speaker 1: demarttation here. I mean it used to be up to

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Speaker 1: stuff when it breaks. The window is just diminishing more

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Speaker 1: and more. It's like you get you get twenty seconds

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Speaker 1: to make a bet. You find out to Martin Rosen sitting,

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Speaker 1: you've got twenty seconds to make a bet on that

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Speaker 1: game before the line is changing, if you're lucky enough

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Speaker 1: to even Sometimes it takes twenty seconds for things on

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Speaker 1: a computer to move right. That is exhausting. People kind

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Speaker 1: of glamorized sports betting a little bit that it's sexy,

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Speaker 1: that it's um a lot of uh, you know, a lot,

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Speaker 1: a lot different than actually is. It's just having monitors,

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Speaker 1: of having lines, of having books up and just kind

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Speaker 1: of hunting these opportunities all day, just kind of finding

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Speaker 1: the edges. Alright, So, Matt Moore, speaking of edges, you

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Speaker 1: posted a story about the Bucks and about sort of

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Speaker 1: they were basically in the same position last year. They

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Speaker 1: are probably the best team in the NBA. They are

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Speaker 1: they are best suited to win the finals. They will

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Speaker 1: be favored unless they play any team from California. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and yet what are your expectations? Well, justin and we're

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Speaker 1: and the kind of ideas the Bucks in particular are

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Speaker 1: create a lot of wide open jumpers and they can

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Speaker 1: hit those. They have lots of shooters, but they also

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Speaker 1: give up a huge ton. Their defensive scheme is built

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Speaker 1: to allow three point shots, which in today's NBA that's

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Speaker 1: really dangerous. Now they managed it very well because they

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Speaker 1: target with shooters. They want to take those shots. The

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Speaker 1: problem in the playoffs is that you don't necessarily have

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Speaker 1: those weak spots. Is that if you face a team

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Speaker 1: like the Heat that can put four reliable shooters on

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Speaker 1: the court at all times, if one of the guys

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Speaker 1: that you elect could be like, all right, this guy,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna give up shots too, and we're gonna keep

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Speaker 1: playing our drop coverage and we're not going to change

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Speaker 1: things up. If that guy gets hot, you're in real trouble.

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Speaker 1: And that's where they got burned last year because Fred

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Speaker 1: VanVleet almost Kyle Lowry to a degree when absolutely super

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Speaker 1: nova in those last four games and edged out the Bucks,

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Speaker 1: and that's why they fell in the Eastern Conference finals.

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Speaker 1: The Bucks also shot really well below what they're expected

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Speaker 1: value on shots should be, and Justin in particular was

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Speaker 1: noting that a lot of that is because rotations get

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Speaker 1: that now I think some of that is just variants,

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Speaker 1: and I think there's a good chance for the Bucks

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Speaker 1: to be able to get away from that because, in

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Speaker 1: part as I wrote the piece, they've shifted their offense

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Speaker 1: and it's a little bit more complicated now. They have

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Speaker 1: more deviations. They have more ability to run pick and

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Speaker 1: roll with Janice as the screener, which provides you with

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Speaker 1: better ways to get him moving instead of him running

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Speaker 1: into a brick wall all the time. But I do

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Speaker 1: well built to go into a series like with Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: And will the Bucks shooting hold up. It's why I'm

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Speaker 1: really hesitant, even though I think the Bucks are the

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Speaker 1: best team and I like their matchup versus both the

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Speaker 1: Lakers and Clippers in the seven game series, I'm really

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Speaker 1: hesitant to bet on them to win the title because

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Speaker 1: of all these concerns and what we saw last season. Alright,

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Speaker 1: so fan picking up on what matches said Miami Boston, like,

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Speaker 1: who do you think has the best shot to knock

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Speaker 1: the Bucks out of the Eastern Conference? Number one seed. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think this whole notion that the Bucks have an

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Speaker 1: easy quote unquote easy path to the finals is a

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Speaker 1: complete force. You look at these matchups, I think all

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Speaker 1: of them present pretty sizable challenges. Miami the current four seed,

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Speaker 1: um kind of projects to be their secondmount opponent and

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Speaker 1: there too, and no against the Bucks in the regular

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Speaker 1: season series, and that's for a good reason. They take

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Speaker 1: a lot of three and have one of the best

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Speaker 1: Janice quote unquote stoppers in the league and Bam ade Bio.

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Speaker 1: I think there's maybe two other guys in the league

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Speaker 1: I might have guard Janice over Bam, but Bam has

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Speaker 1: been phenomenal versus Jonas one on one defending him. You

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Speaker 1: look up this Bucks rosters. How many guys are you

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Speaker 1: really trusting in big moments. We've seen Chris Middleton fold before.

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Speaker 1: I love him, but you know he's had some brutal series.

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Speaker 1: Eric Bledsoe, Brook Lopez, his three point shooting has gone

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Speaker 1: to hell this season. Dante divin chand will love him,

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Speaker 1: but he's not a reliable three point shooter. So these

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Speaker 1: matchups specifically present challenges for Milwaukee's drop defense. You look

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Speaker 1: at Boston, they have prolific jump shooters and Kema Walker

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Speaker 1: and Jayson Tatum. We talked about Miami and their three

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Speaker 1: point shooting um Toronto. They have Fred Davy and Kyle Lowry.

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Speaker 1: They have a guy Marcus told we can step on

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Speaker 1: and hit threes. I mean, I think each of these

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Speaker 1: matchups present pretty sizeable challenges um to where, honestly, I

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Speaker 1: would not be surprised if they at least get pushed

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Speaker 1: to seven or maybe even get upset alright in our

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Speaker 1: final minute. Then give me your championship series. Who takes

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Speaker 1: the title, Matt Moore, I'm giving you thirty seconds. Well,

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Speaker 1: I will take Bucks over Lakers because it's most likely

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Speaker 1: outcome the best numbers. I like taking in a position

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Speaker 1: on the Lakers versus the Celtics, and the Lakers versus

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Speaker 1: the Sixers. If I got one beat, I'll go Lakers,

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Speaker 1: all right. Justin fan, I'm gonna go Clippers over Bucks,

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Speaker 1: and I've been on the Clippers all season long. I

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Speaker 1: think they present they still have some things they need

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Speaker 1: to sort out, especially defensively with guys. You know, Matt

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Speaker 1: did a great article on this on lou Williams, Montres Harald,

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Speaker 1: those two specifically defensively cast some issues. But when I

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Speaker 1: look at this roster, when they're at full health, their depth,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of go out on a limb and

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Speaker 1: take the Clippers. I think the Lakers are probably a

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Speaker 1: little bit more logical. Um, but I'm still running with

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Speaker 1: the Clippers. So you're going with a Kauai back to back,

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Speaker 1: I will say that. Matt Moore on the Action Network

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Speaker 1: NBA podcast earlier this week made a really good point, like,

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Speaker 1: are the Clippers a team that doesn't need to like

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Speaker 1: each other to win a title? Are they a team

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Speaker 1: that just needs to act like they're coming to the office.

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Speaker 1: And do they benefit from having this time off and

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Speaker 1: being in a compressed schedule or there's being quarantined? Is

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Speaker 1: that actually hurt them in a situation like this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to be fair off what you just said, Chad, like

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Speaker 1: half the team has been gone out of the bubble.

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Speaker 1: They really haven't had to spend a lot of time before.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Andrew Sham and Montres, Harold Patrick, Beverly Lou Williams,

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Speaker 1: they've all been out of the bubble like a zoo

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Speaker 1: bog like, so this whole wearing on each other. I

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Speaker 1: don't think that's really an issue because like half the

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Speaker 1: team has been gone. Matt Moore, I'm gonna let you

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Speaker 1: defend yourself. I don't know how you build chemistry with

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Speaker 1: Kawhile Leonard when he doesn't talk. Ever, there were reports

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Speaker 1: of chemistry issues earlier this season around January. They seem

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Speaker 1: to get better, but oftentimes those things don't resolve themselves

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Speaker 1: that quickly. A lot of explosive personalities, especially adding Marcus Morris,

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Speaker 1: I have concerns about how they're going to operate together.

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Speaker 1: I think everyone just looks at the parts and not

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Speaker 1: the Lakers. Alright, justin fan, Matt Moore, Action Network NBA

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