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Speaker 2: We're back, everybody, and we just witnessed profound moment I

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Speaker 2: think in American history great.

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Speaker 1: I'm feel great about the country out of her Bik.

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Speaker 2: That one's going down in the history books. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the single takeaway. I wish we could sit here as

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Speaker 2: people who like policy and who would like to get

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Speaker 2: into the back and forth, and the profound truth is

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Speaker 2: we just witnessed, I mean one of the saddest political moments,

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Speaker 2: like maybe the political death of Joe Biden and the

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Speaker 2: absolute just shocking nature of his appearance, of his delivery.

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Speaker 2: Even whenever we were trying to parse the substance crystal,

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Speaker 2: the four of us, we just we couldn't even get

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Speaker 2: to what he was saying incomprehensible.

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Speaker 3: The coughing.

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Speaker 2: He coughed a record five times in the first thirty

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Speaker 2: seconds of the debate. And I mean, I'm just sitting

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Speaker 2: here stunned. I don't know what else I could say.

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Speaker 1: I mean two words elder abuse. Yeah, it was painful

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Speaker 1: to watch. It's like from the jump.

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Speaker 3: It was painful.

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Speaker 1: His voice, his face, his inability to maintain a single

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Speaker 1: train of thought. It was horrendous. And like I mean,

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Speaker 1: Trump is all over the place and said all kinds

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Speaker 1: of things that I can't stand. Lies and doesn't answer

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Speaker 1: the question whatever. But like you said, Zager, I can't

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Speaker 1: even get to like, oh, let's talk about there are.

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Speaker 4: Different stances on it.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I don't really have the different stances

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Speaker 1: on immigration, but or Israel or any number of other issues.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I would love to get into, oh,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Biden's antitrust to talk about labor policy.

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Speaker 4: No one who.

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Speaker 1: Watched this debate is going to get past the fact

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Speaker 1: that he was so much worse than I think we've been,

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Speaker 1: you know, expecting, we know that Biden is not where

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Speaker 1: he was. We expected some problems in this debate. This

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Speaker 1: was so far beyond what I anticipated. I don't know

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Speaker 5: Ryan, Yeah, it felt like he spent way too much

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Speaker 3: With the statistics. Did you know the statistics?

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Speaker 5: He had all these stats, and he had a couple

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Speaker 5: of what you could tell were supposed to be one liners,

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Speaker 5: but he got through like half the line. I think

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Speaker 5: I saw him heading over our neighborhood around four thirty

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Speaker 5: or so, so like he just kind of got into

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Speaker 3: That was, stepped off the plane and was there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was just worn out, and his voice

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Speaker 5: from the very beginning was awkward. So people are now,

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Speaker 5: like in the Democratic Party are thinking it's funny. But

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Speaker 5: in the beginning of this, I said, there are some

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Speaker 5: just forces him off the ticket. They have to pull

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Speaker 5: not because they don't like Biden, but because they want

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Speaker 1: So do you think this was that performance?

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Speaker 3: It was that performance?

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Speaker 2: If it was anything into this, I mean, that is

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Speaker 1: So we should know Emily, Well, Charlie, she's doing something else.

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Speaker 1: We didn't kick Emily off the island. We love Emily.

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Speaker 1: She wanted me to share with you. She also thought

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Speaker 1: he looked old and terrible.

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Speaker 3: Well, she said old as fuck. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's actually she.

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Speaker 1: Said, he's oldest fuck and she'll share more of her

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean listen. Going into this, I was like, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be by like right. Anyone who thinks they're gonna

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Speaker 1: pull him, you're delusional. It's gonna be Joe Biden, Like,

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Speaker 1: deal with it. We all need to live in the

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Speaker 1: realm of reality. This is when it's hitting home. After this,

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Speaker 2: It's like, I don't even know how close so that

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Speaker 2: Biden campaign Crystal has called every mainstream reporter in the

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Speaker 2: presumably when you have a cold, you take suit, a

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Speaker 4: We know that what a cold looks for. That's what

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Speaker 4: it doesn't look like. Your brain melting in real time, stone.

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Speaker 3: Face, the open mouth gape.

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Speaker 2: I mean, anybody who has an elderly person in their

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Speaker 2: horrifying almost from the very beginning. And just to give

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Speaker 2: people a taste too, as you said, Crystal two of

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Speaker 2: what the mainstream coverage was, let's put F one please

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Speaker 2: up on the screen, just to give people an idea

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Speaker 2: of how such an mitigated disaster. This is from the AP,

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Speaker 2: the AP, the most middle of the road mainstream, and

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Speaker 2: this is what they put out on their newswire to

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Speaker 2: their entire subscriber service. Quote in the first half hour

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Speaker 2: of the debate, a raspby Biden delivers rambling answers while

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Speaker 2: Trump counters with energy and falsehoods. But even they have

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Speaker 2: to say rasby Biden, rambling answers, and they even have

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge Trump counters with energy. This is also where

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Speaker 2: I have to eat the Bible. He does, yes, he was,

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Speaker 2: but he's Trump. But I would I would say this too.

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Speaker 2: The rules unambiguously worked in the favor of Trump. There's

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Speaker 2: no question. I think that was one of the top

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Speaker 2: five performances of his life because he just seemed like

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Speaker 2: some stop to steal there at the end. People aren't

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Speaker 2: going to like that. Even on abortion, he was a

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Speaker 2: little bit all over the place. But the whole point

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Speaker 2: did watch this. What are they going to take away?

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Speaker 2: It ain't anything to do with late term abortion. It

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Speaker 2: is oh my.

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Speaker 3: God, what is going on in front of us? Go ahead, Crystal.

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Speaker 1: So Kyle texted me an update from MSNBC. He says

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Speaker 1: they're waving the towel. Nicole Wallace said people will be

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Speaker 3: So wow.

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Speaker 5: The MSNBC folks are probably talking to some of the

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Speaker 5: same people types of people in Washington that I'm talking to.

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Speaker 3: And yes, they're absolutely completely panicked.

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Speaker 5: People who have been involved in politics for decades, who

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Speaker 6: The stop wetting the bed, like all this stuff, there's

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Speaker 5: Some of them are still saying, look, so these are

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Speaker 5: the different paths.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Some are saying something's got to give.

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Speaker 5: This is insane, like these are very sober, centrist minded

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Speaker 2: They're telling us that CNN has called his his call

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Speaker 2: his performance, quote dismal Griffin saying, quote CNN saying it's joke.

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Speaker 3: Crystal Howm and Ryan too.

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Speaker 2: How many recriminations have we all received over the last

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Speaker 2: five years for pointing out apology? But I do, I

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Speaker 2: genuinely do want an apology. This was foisted upon the

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Speaker 2: American people. People in the White House. You should be

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Speaker 2: ashamed of yourself, Jake Sullivan and all the other folks

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Speaker 2: who see this stuff up close. We've been reporting it

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Speaker 2: here day after day. G seven leaders, he's gotten worse.

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Speaker 2: We have the public moments. But to see this up

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Speaker 2: in twenty fifth Amendment territory. Is this man alive? Like,

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Speaker 2: what the fuck is happening?

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Speaker 4: So I want to hear what the other Washington. So

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Speaker 3: One group that one group is saying, yeah, like this

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Speaker 5: The other group is saying, no, there's no way to

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Speaker 5: get him off. But what we're gonna do is we're

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Speaker 5: going to focus on the House and Senate. Basically, I

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Speaker 7: Give up.

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Speaker 6: That's the idea, give up the end of Democrats that

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Speaker 6: Biden that he has a very good staff and that

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Speaker 6: you want democrats making nominating the appointees.

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Speaker 5: You want Democrats in control of these agencies. All right,

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Speaker 5: and you're probably going to lose, but you can maybe

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Speaker 5: win the House and Senate. Okay, And we went into this, Wait.

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Speaker 4: Isn't there third third group? No, that's basically that's it. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I got it.

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Speaker 1: There's there's no just delusional and he was great. I

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Speaker 3: There's none of that absolutely zero.

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Speaker 5: And before this, the the the normal Democratic Senate candidate

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Speaker 5: which showed you that there isn't And Democrats are heartened

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Speaker 5: that so they already had a five point gap before

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Speaker 5: this that could widen to something historic. Team You've never

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Speaker 5: I mean the House and Senate candidates are pulling the presidential.

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Speaker 1: Usually they talk about coattails.

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Speaker 3: Coattails.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the opposite dynamic. Barack Obama brings along all

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Speaker 1: these people, right, It's no, it's it's incredible. I mean,

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Speaker 1: tell me this, Ryan, from the people you're talking to

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Speaker 1: in Washington, like, what did they think of the state

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Speaker 1: of his condition going into this, Because what I was

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Speaker 1: thinking about is, you know, your rank and file Democratic

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Speaker 1: House member, Senate member, even staffer, they don't really have

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Speaker 1: access to him. We get these reports, you know, Jamie

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Speaker 1: Harrison won't come out. Oh you should see him behind

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Speaker 1: closed doors. He's really firecracker. But the reality is that,

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Speaker 1: based on the reporting, his circle has gotten smaller and

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Speaker 2: Like, we shall if you want to roll the tape,

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Speaker 3: All of us covered our mouths.

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Speaker 2: It was ninety minutes of just weird old man stuff already. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: What that would do is that would signal to their

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Speaker 1: Also should go back because there was after the midterms,

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Speaker 2: Are also the level of outrage we shall have now

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Speaker 1: That is true, although at this point, I really I

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Speaker 1: He's a toxic boss who does not want to hear

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Speaker 1: They believe that he's had this same basic group around

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And so I think that he I

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Speaker 2: The media coverage of this Wall Street Journal puts out

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Speaker 2: That whole thing was a vindication of so much of

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Speaker 1: Chirn on CNN sources aggressive panic for Dems after Biden's

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Speaker 5: I think not having a crowd helped Trump and hurt

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Speaker 1: So what do you think about Sager's hypothetical here of

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Speaker 1: sand and just kind of throwing the down and say, well,

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Speaker 1: I guess we're just going to lose the presidency and

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll win the House and maybe the Senate. Is

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Speaker 1: that do you think that's most likely it's going to happen?

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Speaker 5: We will get an answer to the question of whether

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Speaker 5: they actually believe that democracy is on the ballot, because

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Speaker 5: you have this split screen throughout the non primary with

447
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Speaker 5: Biden saying democracies on the ballot, and all of these

448
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Speaker 5: Democratic candidates like Newsom and Whittam are.

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Speaker 3: Planning for twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: It's like, wait a minute, there is no twenty twenty eight,

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Speaker 5: right if twenty twenty four doesn't go your way?

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Speaker 4: True according to according to you, Yes, and so all.

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Speaker 5: Because all of these different factions within the party have

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Speaker 5: their own interests in twenty twenty eight that factors into

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Speaker 5: whether they actually weigh in on twenty twenty four. A

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Speaker 5: bunch of them believe that an open primary with Trump

457
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Speaker 5: as a second term president, leaving is an easier road

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Speaker 5: for somebody like a News there would become president.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that assumes that there.

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Speaker 5: Will be a twenty twenty eight presidential election, even though

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Speaker 5: Trump won the presidency.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, I guess you don't necessarily really believe that.

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Speaker 2: What if he crushes twenty twenty up until then and

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Speaker 2: he's got he's like Bill Clinton and he has sixty

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Speaker 2: percent approval rating and his vice president could yeah, Juck

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Speaker 2: Bergham becomes King of the United States, apparently. Laurence O'Donnell

467
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Speaker 2: on MSNBC says, well, FDR was a good president and

468
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Speaker 2: he couldn't even walk.

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Speaker 1: That's where we're at.

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Speaker 3: That's where we're at now.

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Speaker 2: That's the level of FDR was drooling out of his

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Speaker 2: mouth and couldn't walk, and look, he was a great president.

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Speaker 1: Also, Joe Biden is no FDR.

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Speaker 4: Okay, people, let's just.

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Speaker 3: FDR proved himself for twelve years up until that before

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Speaker 3: you at all.

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Speaker 5: We're not asking for Joe Biden to walk like if

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Speaker 5: Joe Biden were in a wheelchair, no problem, Yeah, and

479
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Speaker 5: giving speeches like fdrp until the very end, right, I

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Speaker 5: think it was I mean.

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Speaker 2: Fine, absolutely, I just don't know what the hell they're

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Speaker 2: going to do at this point. And in a certain look,

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Speaker 2: Biden has the LBJ choice. Biden has the choice. RFK

484
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Speaker 2: is in the race quite.

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Speaker 3: Literally, you know, at this time he could see the

486
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Speaker 3: riding on the wall, and he's like an LBJ, a

487
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Speaker 3: smart man, the most ambitious, probably more ambitious than Joe.

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Speaker 2: Biden looks himself in the mirror with his advisors. That's it, boys,

489
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna win. And he gives a speech and

490
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Speaker 2: he says, I will not seek nor accept the nomination.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden has that choice. He's sixty eight days out

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Speaker 2: and this perhaps could have been the greatest political gift

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Speaker 2: to him of all time.

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Speaker 5: In this he can go down. They can just say

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Speaker 5: go down in history. He could go down the climate

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Speaker 5: and just be like, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: But this is where I think his arrogance and also

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Speaker 2: the rigged nature of the people around him, the bubble

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Speaker 2: that he has built, and also believing his own bullshit

500
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Speaker 2: now for so many years, is going to come back

501
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Speaker 2: to bid him and he will arrogantly walk himself now

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Speaker 2: to what what I mean at this point, guys, what

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Speaker 2: can we even think of what the electoral map is

504
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Speaker 2: going to look like.

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Speaker 3: Every single swing state is going to like this.

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Speaker 1: RKG is going to be getting a lot JU.

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Speaker 5: Going to get like the real debate, you know, he

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Speaker 5: was basically debating with the other folks. Was streaming consistently

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Speaker 5: at two million, like there were there were there were.

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Speaker 2: Millions watching RFK, like because I bet a bunch of

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Speaker 2: people were like watch those two are like WHOA right, Well,

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Speaker 2: I can show what I was predicted for the betting markets,

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Speaker 2: so f six please, I was keeping track of this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is you know, in terms of betting markets.

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Speaker 2: Take a look at this was halfway through the debate.

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden, I think, you know, thirty minutes or so

517
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Speaker 2: into the debate plunged, you know, to only sixty nine

518
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Speaker 2: percent real in terms of the betting markets, by seventeen

519
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Speaker 2: percent in terms of the odds that he would even

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Speaker 2: be the presidential nominee. I'd have to check, but I

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Speaker 2: guarantee you that's going to be less. I mean, David

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Speaker 2: Newsom is by the way, in the spin room right now.

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Speaker 2: I I to be a fly on the wall.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, how can what do you say?

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Speaker 3: What do you say?

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Speaker 1: You all, you all, you do. You don't talk about Biden.

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Speaker 1: You just got Trump's lies. I mean, did election denial.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's what that's the only that's that's truly

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Speaker 1: at this point. But that case that you're making, Zaga, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the case that someone needs to make to Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: Of like your legacy, if you graciously step aside, if

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Speaker 1: you make good on your pledge to be the bridge

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Speaker 1: to the next generation. And yes, we can talk about

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Speaker 1: the Chips Act, we can talk about your infrastructure, we

535
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Speaker 1: can talk about hey, you you know, did the what

536
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Speaker 1: we needed to do with the economy in COVID can

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Speaker 1: talk about labor, we can talk about antitrust. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you withdrawal from Afghanistan genocide, we'll put that aside

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Speaker 1: for the moment. But if you're making this case, maybe

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Speaker 1: don't make that part of it. But you know, you

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Speaker 1: step aside. Now, you look like a great leader, you

542
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Speaker 1: look selfless.

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Speaker 4: You pass the baton.

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Speaker 1: And one thing that a Steed Herndon over the New

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Speaker 1: York Times has been pointing out is like Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: also kind of miss not kind of he really misled

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Speaker 1: the American public too when he was running in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: because he didn't come out and say directly, I promise

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Speaker 1: I will only be a one term president, very club,

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Speaker 1: but he came very close to that, and there was

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Speaker 1: a real assumption that was made of like, Okay, this

552
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Speaker 1: dude is old and we're worried about that. But he's

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Speaker 1: going to be there for four years. He's going to

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Speaker 1: set the ship right, it's going to be normal again.

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Speaker 1: He's going to get Trump on of there and then

556
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Speaker 1: we'll move on to what's next. And you know, immediately

557
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Speaker 1: once he gets elected, of course, he's never going to

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Speaker 1: let go of the brass ring. And here we are.

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Speaker 1: But that is the case that needs to be made

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Speaker 1: to him, is like, if you stay and you hand

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Speaker 1: the country back to Donald Trump, that is a totally

562
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Speaker 1: different legacy than if you graciously step aside.

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Speaker 4: Now I mentioned the genocide part.

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Speaker 1: I think that that is probably a fantasy that his

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Speaker 1: legacy would be, you know, a glorious one no matter

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Speaker 1: what he does at this point. But that is the

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Speaker 1: case that needs to be made to him by Brock

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Speaker 1: Obama and Michelle Obama, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pullett,

569
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Speaker 1: like whoever. But I think you're right Ryan, I think

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Speaker 1: everyone's self interest in the Democratic Party is such that

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Speaker 1: it renders them just like cowardly careers who really.

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Speaker 4: Don't give a shit about the country.

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Speaker 1: They don't believe what they say, and they don't give

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Speaker 1: a shit about the country. That's exactly right, because your

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Speaker 1: point is so such an important one that you know,

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Speaker 1: we're thinking about twenty twenty four. They're already lining up

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Speaker 1: behind their horses for twenty twenty eight. They're already planning

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Speaker 1: on like, Oh, I'm going to be a Whitmer person,

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Speaker 1: and here's how I'm going to parlay that into my

580
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Speaker 1: agency position. I'm going to be lined up for VP.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to run for that Senate seat that opens up.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to run for that governor's mansion that's going

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Speaker 1: to open up when Whitmer makes the jumper. Whatever, That's

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Speaker 1: what their plans are. And so it's no one has

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Speaker 1: planned their political future around Joe Biden being out of

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Speaker 1: this race. So no one outside of the entire American

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Speaker 1: public who has an interest of time decent, presdential candidates.

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Speaker 1: But these people who actually have influence, none of them

589
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Speaker 1: has an.

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Speaker 5: Interest and the way they think, Yeah, let's say you're

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Speaker 5: a Whitmer person. Yeah, and you think Witnmor's going to

592
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Speaker 5: go shot in twenty eight. Now you're like, oh, what

593
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Speaker 5: if Whitmer is not the twenty four and what if

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Speaker 5: Newsome like it just gets.

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Speaker 3: It's the nod that's right, Yeah, we need Then you

596
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Speaker 3: go to.

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Speaker 5: The Pritzker people and you're like, we don't want neither

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Speaker 5: of us want Newsome to get it.

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Speaker 3: Let's all make sure that Biden just goes onto it.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: We just needed democratic elites to act like elites and

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Speaker 3: just come in and end.

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Speaker 9: This ship for us.

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Speaker 3: But they don't do that.

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Speaker 2: There's no sense of it. In the nineteen they actually did.

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Speaker 2: They came together, the DNC and all them. They're like, juh, Lindon,

607
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Speaker 2: you're not gonna win, dude, it's over. And he said, okay.

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Speaker 2: He believed them. And he was even a guy who

609
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Speaker 2: was way more powerful than Biden. I mean, for like,

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Speaker 2: like you said, Ryan Chuck Schumer, what are we doing here? Dude,

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Speaker 2: you're seventy three, you know you you need to know,

612
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Speaker 2: But what is the track record that we have? Schumer

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Speaker 2: lies about Diane Feinstein's age up until the day she dies,

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Speaker 2: quite literally Nancy Pelosi had.

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Speaker 1: Her freaking daughter, yes as her nurse maid.

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Speaker 3: As her handmaiden, and basically just kept the thing over

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Speaker 3: her mouth. And I was like, yeah, just.

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Speaker 2: Don't don't fine, don't worry about it, remember whenever.

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Speaker 1: And you're sexist, by the way, your sexist.

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Speaker 3: Well a feminist thing.

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing with Biden here now, they made us,

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Speaker 2: they made us, called us ablests say that we were

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Speaker 2: making fun of a man with agism, the ableism. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the level of rage that I feel right now for

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Speaker 2: these people, just because it's just been years now of

626
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Speaker 2: just sitting here and we just sit here and take

627
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Speaker 2: it and take it and take it. And now for

628
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Speaker 2: the dishonesty of the Nicole Wallace's of the world now

629
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Speaker 2: floating replacing Joe Biden or David Axelrod or any of

630
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Speaker 2: these other people, and for his own staff, who viciously

631
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Speaker 2: attacked anybody who tweeted out or accurately portrayed his complete inabilities.

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Speaker 2: And they're either silenced or apparently there's some Democratic people

633
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Speaker 2: who are crying on the phones right now.

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Speaker 3: They're reporters.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they should be like, if you really believe

636
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Speaker 2: that this is such an important election that This is

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Speaker 2: on you, This is on the people around who who supported.

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Speaker 3: Him and or who propped him up.

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Speaker 5: There was a there was a time where it could

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Speaker 5: have mattered if people came forward, we might have we

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Speaker 5: might have broken in too.

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Speaker 3: We got something we got to just keep talking'll come in. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we might have a moment that where it broke

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Speaker 5: back over again, and people with courage have a chance

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Speaker 5: to actually, you know, act on that. But the time

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Speaker 5: was before, and like you said, there was a there's

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Speaker 5: a cost to speaking out, and and people would rather

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Speaker 5: kind of live, you know it, would like rather live

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Speaker 5: richly among the ruins of a of a wrecked party

650
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Speaker 5: than see their party win, because they're going to be

651
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Speaker 5: fine either way.

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Speaker 1: A wrecked party and a dying empire.

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Speaker 10: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Do you think because the one person who has somewhat

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Speaker 1: of an interest in Joe preserving a shred of his

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Speaker 1: dignity is actually Barack Obama because he's looking not great

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Speaker 1: right now having brought this man.

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Speaker 3: Obama's Hillary invited, what the fuck dude?

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Speaker 1: All true? So he's got to be thinking, like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not looking great right now with like having you know,

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Speaker 1: forsted Joe on the public and backed him up and

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Speaker 1: made the because Barack Obama made this happen for him

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty primary. Let's not forget. So does

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Speaker 1: he have the juice? Does he have the juice to

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Speaker 1: make something happen here in the Democratic Party?

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Speaker 3: Sure he has the juice.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, there is such a thing as force and power.

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Speaker 5: Like I think he could be forced out with enough pressure.

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Speaker 11: You know, we.

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Speaker 1: We showed those word clouds before. By the way, Emily

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Speaker 1: is here, Emily.

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Speaker 7: Emily Magic.

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Speaker 1: I just.

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Speaker 4: We're just talking.

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Speaker 7: Manifested me. Everything seems okay.

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Speaker 1: I feel really good about the state of the country.

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Speaker 1: But with Obama, I mean, it does seem like if

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Speaker 1: he really decided to forcefully intervene, you could that would

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Speaker 1: be like the one thing that could maybe shift things here.

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Speaker 4: But the other thing I'm questioning too, is right now

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Speaker 4: everyone is having.

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Speaker 1: To live in the reality of like, holy shit, that

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Speaker 1: was bad. How long before the spin takes hold and

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Speaker 1: it's like, well, Trump was lying and he said this

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Speaker 1: bad thing, and everyone's just not focused on the substance

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Speaker 1: and Biden had a cold, and seriously, how long before

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Speaker 1: they can reconstruct all of the artifice and Potempkin Village

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Speaker 1: of Biden competence that they had carefully constructed prior to

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Speaker 1: this moment.

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Speaker 7: I think they're making that decision right now.

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Speaker 12: I think literally right now, they're scrambling to try to

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Speaker 12: figure out if they can put the cat back into

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Speaker 12: the bag, because I think if Joe Biden says no way,

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Speaker 12: I'm in it, Jack, and I'm not going anywhere.

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Speaker 7: Jack, then everyone idea that ye.

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Speaker 3: Jack, I was.

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Speaker 9: I hadn't.

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Speaker 12: I had forgotten about this. But Megan Kelly just showed

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Speaker 12: this clip of Morning Joe saying it was Mika saying

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Speaker 12: Marjorie tall Green must have might have might as well

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Speaker 12: just written this report on Biden's health.

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Speaker 7: They said, that's just a few weeks insane.

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Speaker 4: It's insane.

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Speaker 12: And so the only reason that everyone is now expressing

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Speaker 12: surprise is because they feel like they can't get away

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Speaker 12: with their lie anymore because everybody saw it crumble on

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Speaker 12: national television. But but we all saw Joe Biden after

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Speaker 12: her report come out and say I have no memory

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Speaker 12: problems at a press conference in which.

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Speaker 7: He had several lapses in his memory. It's like, clearly

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Speaker 7: not okay. We've known he's not okay.

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Speaker 12: So if he tells his inner circle whose friends are

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Speaker 12: all scattered across corporate media, that he's going to do it.

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Speaker 12: They'll find a way to make it work.

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Speaker 10: Well.

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Speaker 1: That ivan that experience with that try what made me

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Speaker 1: question because after that report came out where he said

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Speaker 1: basically like, I can't charge this guy. The jury is

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Speaker 1: gonna be like, he's just a confused old man. How

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Speaker 1: can you know?

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Speaker 4: You can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't put this man in front of a jury.

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Speaker 1: And he can't even remember when he was vice president,

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Speaker 1: that was part of it. Couldn't remember when his own

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Speaker 1: son died, right, That was the type of memory lapses

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Speaker 1: that he was reportedly having. And there was a moment

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Speaker 1: in the media when there were a bunch of pieces written.

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Speaker 1: People were like, oh my goodness, this is really bad,

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Speaker 1: like Democrats need to do something about this. And then

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Speaker 1: very quickly the ranks closed again, and you know, you

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Speaker 1: had people out there saying things like that, and.

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Speaker 12: I don't think they can get away with it this

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Speaker 12: time though, that's my inclination is they can't.

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Speaker 7: I don't know that.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to that point.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it is one thing to see it in

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Speaker 4: a report.

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Speaker 1: It's another thing to watch it yourself right, and that

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Speaker 1: does make it quite under that, and especially coming on

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Speaker 1: the heels of the G seven and the clipstick, the

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Speaker 1: amount of that, et cetera.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a foreign The foreign against case is

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Speaker 2: this is that first time. Remember there was Andrew Mitchell

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Speaker 2: when Biden was losing in twenty nineteen. In early twenty twenty,

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Speaker 2: Andrew Mitchell has that segment and be like, we need

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Speaker 2: to ask serious questions about Joe Biden's age, and.

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Speaker 3: Then six months later she's like, it was a stutter

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Speaker 3: the whole time. I never said that before. The reason

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Speaker 3: why I.

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Speaker 2: Think this one is substitutely different is that there's actually

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Speaker 2: very crazy high stakes now at this point where the

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Speaker 2: national public is so much more coalesced around he is

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Speaker 2: old that if they try to do a similar like

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Speaker 2: walk back that they did before, that they would lose

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Speaker 2: even more credibility. Even these shameless liars we have to

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Speaker 2: believe have a line. But I also wouldn't put it

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Speaker 2: past them. I wouldn't pad it past Andrew Mitchell and

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Speaker 2: all them to roll out the stutter.

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Speaker 3: So I just don't know the course.

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Speaker 1: We've got a CNN clip to give us all a flavor.

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Speaker 1: We haven't watched this so we can react to it live.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to how things are going over there.

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Speaker 9: It involves party strategists, it involves elected officials, it involves fundraisers,

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Speaker 9: and they're having conversations about the president's performance, which they

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Speaker 9: think was dismal, which they think will hurt other people

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Speaker 9: down the party in the ticket, and they're having conversations

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Speaker 9: about what they should do about it. Some of those

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Speaker 9: conversations include, should we go to the White House and

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Speaker 9: ask the president's step aside others or other of the

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Speaker 9: conversations are about should prominent Democrats go public with that

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Speaker 9: call because they feel this debate was so terrible?

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Speaker 3: That's right, keep that ounce right.

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Speaker 1: That is interesting because he raises a good point because again,

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Speaker 1: we're not thinking about people doing the right thing for

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Speaker 1: the country or whatever. That's not what we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about self interested political actors who have their

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Speaker 1: own careers and paychecks in mind. He's raising what I

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Speaker 1: think is true, which is that yes, Democrats are going

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Speaker 1: to outperform Biden, but if you have that week of

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Speaker 1: a candid at the top of the ticket, it is

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Speaker 1: going to drag down everybody's performance across the board. So

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Speaker 1: if you're a Rosen in Nevada, if you're a tester

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Speaker 1: in Montana, you're trying to get re elected, you're any

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Speaker 1: number of congressional candidates around the country, suddenly you're going

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Speaker 1: this guy's this is a real problem for me personally.

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Speaker 5: You could also they could also rationalize it though by saying, Okay,

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Speaker 5: if it looks this obvious that Trump is going to win,

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Speaker 5: then somebody like a tester or Rose and actually get

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Speaker 5: benefits because from the voters who want to check on

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Speaker 5: Trump because they think Trump that they kind of like Trump.

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Speaker 5: They prefer Trump to Biden, but they don't want him

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Speaker 5: to have full control of Congress either.

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Speaker 3: So you can see the divided Congress, the old divide

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Speaker 3: it there is actually good evidence for that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it gets plating is so rare. I mean, there

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Speaker 1: is some tickets playing. But if you have a canon

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Speaker 1: at the top of the ticket who is not much

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Speaker 1: of a drag, it's going to be a problem.

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Speaker 3: For there is probably it's probably more of a drag.

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Speaker 1: They're going to have to defend in the benefit.

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Speaker 7: They will have to defend him every day at every

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Speaker 7: state fair. They'll have to defend him.

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Speaker 3: That's right, we have a apparently we have a Joyan

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Speaker 3: read clip.

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Speaker 2: We've got to check in with Joy over at MSNBC

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Speaker 2: from our producers. Let's go ahead and take a list in, guys,

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Speaker 2: I too, was on the.

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Speaker 10: Phone throughout much of the debate with Obama world people

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Speaker 10: with Democrats, with people who are political operatives, with campaign operatives.

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Speaker 10: My phone really never stopped buzzing throughout, and the universal

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Speaker 10: reaction was somewhere approaching panic.

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Speaker 7: The people who were texting with me were.

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Speaker 10: Very concerned about President Biden seeming extremely feeble, seeming extremely weak,

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Speaker 10: extremely feeble.

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Speaker 7: It's bullshit that they're surprised and how good.

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Speaker 4: Is But you know what, Emily, I mean, I am surprised.

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Speaker 3: By that's how bad it was. But nobody guess.

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Speaker 12: We're not We're not in Obama and we don't spend

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Speaker 12: time with the people who spend time with him every day.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, but I mean the level because it was

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. I thought we saw the state of

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Speaker 1: the Union. It was okay, But he was reading off

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Speaker 1: a teleprompter when he has when he and he had

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Speaker 1: an audience, when he has to gather the words for himself.

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Speaker 3: It's bad. And it was worse.

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Speaker 1: It was I had low expectations. My expectations were on

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Speaker 1: the floor. I thought he would at least have some

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Speaker 1: moments on abortion or on January sixth or something that

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Speaker 1: they could take and run with.

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Speaker 4: And this was strong. There's not one moment.

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Speaker 1: Because when we were you know, we were picking clips

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Speaker 1: of like, all right, how do we want to ampersent

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Speaker 1: that debate? And I had in my mind like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're going to show all the bad ones

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Speaker 1: if he has a good one, like we should show them.

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Speaker 4: What am I going to show? There's nothing to show,

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Speaker 4: and there's adicat there's.

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Speaker 1: Plenty of things.

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Speaker 4: Trump said that.

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Speaker 1: Was barls of an alley cat, which also sounds like

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Speaker 1: something that.

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Speaker 2: Are you in the production of Annie?

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Speaker 3: But all the Chimney sweeps know.

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Speaker 1: It's not like, Okay, looked like a connoisseur out there

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Speaker 1: in comparison, But imagine it's Gavin Newsome up there on

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Speaker 1: the station. Gavin Newsom could have picked Trump apart, and

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Speaker 1: that there was plenty to work with their on abortion,

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Speaker 1: on stop the steal, on all kinds of things. Right,

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Speaker 1: that Trump is just making up ship as he goes along,

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Speaker 1: But he at least seemed like he will survive another

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Speaker 1: four years, you know, And so in contrast, he looked absolutely,

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Speaker 1: you know, incredible, And you didn't see any of that pushback,

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Speaker 1: any of the attempted pushback was so incoherent you didn't

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Speaker 1: even know what point Biden was trying to make in

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Speaker 1: response to it. So, yeah, I mean the fact that

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Speaker 1: you have CNN with their sources, Van Jones.

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Speaker 2: Nick Christoph Axel, Rod Joy Reid axl Rod, Joy, Reid,

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Speaker 2: Nicole Wallace. I mean Casey, Yeah, Casey hunt Over who

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Speaker 2: who you know, cut off the cut off Trump.

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Speaker 1: I do want to say the CNN moderators were pretty good.

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Speaker 3: They did a good You know why I think I

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Speaker 3: was crying. I think they were quote unquote good is

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Speaker 3: they didn't really have to model.

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Speaker 4: They don't have to do anything. They just had to

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Speaker 4: read the question.

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Speaker 2: How many other times you are like, mister Biden, you

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Speaker 2: have eighty eight second sleft after the after the thing

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Speaker 2: was horrible, and they're like, you have thirty seven seconds left,

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Speaker 2: mister President Biden. He's just it's like the complete blank stare, the.

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Speaker 7: There's a Rik Times headline on your screen. That's insane.

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Speaker 12: Facing Trump's misleading attacks. Biden appears shaky at times. Yeah,

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Speaker 12: just about captures the top.

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Speaker 2: Biden struggles as Trump blusters, and a contenttion was it

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Speaker 2: was already there's no both siding this.

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Speaker 5: It's a disaster and it was criminal for them not

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Speaker 5: to have r f K Junior on from the beginning.

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Speaker 3: But after the debate, thinking about.

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Speaker 5: That decision, like it it changed changed history in a

880
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 5: way because if if RFK Junior is able to be

881
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 5: on there, like you could imagine a huge number of

882
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 5: people being like, you know what, fine, I can't do

883
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 5: either of these people.

884
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 3: I'm I'm with RFK. And that's a good point.

885
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 5: If he gets into the thirties, into the twenties or thirties,

886
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 5: then it's game and he.

887
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 3: Replaces Biden almost and imagine the legends and Democrats start

888
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 3: dating behind it. Look at least ballot yeah whatever, but.

889
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,720
Speaker 1: At least you're not Trump.

890
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah he was with us on the environment.

891
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 12: At least you're not debating your handicap like both of

892
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 12: them were zero chance.

893
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: Biden has a six handicap and no way Trump wants

894
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

895
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: Wait, Crystal, can you have a new golfer? Can you

896
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: ask Kyle whether he believes that Biden.

897
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: Oh, I already Kyle, but I did talk to Kyle

898
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 4: like no.

899
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 3: Results the one coaching thoughts check. This is officially a

900
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Speaker 3: false statistics so.

901
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 12: We've consulted an expert. This is an official breaking points FactCheck.

902
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 12: Crystal did it Golf and New.

903
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 5: Golfer and no, no way Biden carries his own clubs

904
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 5: for eighteen holes either.

905
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,959
Speaker 3: Like it's.

906
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 7: I don't want him driving the golf course.

907
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 5: Trump Yetn's credit, He wouldn't. Trump didn't even pretend that

908
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: he would carry his clubs.

909
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I just the drunk guys of the golf

910
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: course more than.

911
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 7: He doesn't even drink.

912
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 3: Don't get on the wall.

913
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: Y's official response, just so we can be technically accurate

914
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: here with yeah, I sent him Biden's swing.

915
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 4: So Ryan had provided with the group.

916
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: As background, and he said six handicap and then four,

917
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: laughing about.

918
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 2: I need to get like Tiger Woods or somebody on here.

919
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: Look my big big question Ryan, actually you'll know this.

920
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: When does Congress come back into session? When are these

921
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: guys going to be back in They should be back

922
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: like on the ninth. Okay, so fourth of July, there

923
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 2: we go, guys. So July ninth, when the when the

924
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: hordes of the reporter swarm on to Chuck Schumer and

925
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 2: Nancy Pelosi on lakem Jeffries, all of those people walking

926
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 2: down the hallways with every reporter in the country shoving

927
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: her phone in their face.

928
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 3: What are they going to say? Well, that's the big question.

929
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: That's something else I want to know tonight and control them.

930
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: If you have one of these clips, I'd love to

931
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Speaker 1: see it too.

932
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Speaker 4: But normally in these.

933
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Speaker 1: Post debate specials, of course you've got a whole laundry

934
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: list of Democrats, members of or whoever who want to

935
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: come on and talk about how great you know, Joe

936
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: Biden just did. I would if they've got anyone who is.

937
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 4: Willing to come on and say that.

938
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Speaker 3: Right now, let's talk about the Kate Vegane Yeah, yeah,

939
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 3: before we gives.

940
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Speaker 4: The former COMPS director.

941
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally at the White House. I think she only

942
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 2: left a couple of months ago.

943
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Speaker 1: This is his and she was there, you know, the

944
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: whole twenty twenty campaign. She was one of the people

945
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Speaker 1: who even when he was really down and out, she was,

946
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, there by his side and really believing in

947
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: this guy. And what is she what does she say

948
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: now quote.

949
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: It was a really disappointing debate performance for Joe Biden.

950
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any other way to slice it.

951
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 2: His biggest issue was to prove to the American people

952
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 2: he had the energy, the stamina, and he didn't do that.

953
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 2: I mean, that is as cut and dry as it gets.

954
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 3: This is this is, this is.

955
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: That's the lady who was paid to lie to the

956
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Speaker 2: American public on Joe Biden's behalf.

957
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: The type of person who would ordinarily be on CNN

958
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: talking about what a masterful job.

959
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 2: She might even have a scene in No h I

960
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: think you're right, she does have a scene. You know,

961
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 2: he also want to hear from Jensaki. I think her

962
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: shows on Saturday.

963
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 3: Let's hear it. Lady.

964
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: You know how many times you take that damn podium

965
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: and you tell us about how strong and virile? What

966
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 2: did you know?

967
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: And I for real, we are in the truth and

968
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 3: reconciliation phase.

969
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: It's like, at what point we should drag I mean

970
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: this Trump may try and have this happen, but in

971
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 2: a just world they should be dragged. At what point

972
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: did you first notice that the president was senile? At

973
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 2: what point did you first notice he had dementia. Lloyd Austin,

974
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 2: what are we doing here?

975
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 7: That's the commanded.

976
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, the charity of the people. Ye Lloyd was in Israel.

977
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Speaker 3: He didn't he didn't notice that.

978
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 12: If I'm a parent of somebody in the military right now,

979
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 12: I am at the plastic and I am outraged if

980
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 12: my child.

981
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: Is overseas deployed in Syria, you know, sitting losing missiles,

982
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: just to the like, Oh yeah, this is the man

983
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 3: who's going to respond to that.

984
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: Also, let's think about the geopolitical ramifications of this. If

985
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 2: I'm putin, I'm rolling every goddamn thing we have right

986
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: now into Ukraine tomorrow.

987
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 3: If I forget, I.

988
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 4: Wonder why Bibe just rolls over the guy.

989
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: I wonder if I wonder why tomorrow there's a new

990
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 2: shipment of five hundred pound bombs that are going through

991
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: to Israel tonight. If I'm baby, I'm gonna carpet bomb

992
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: the ship out of the rock tomorrow.

993
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: What is this man gonna do? What's he gonna do?

994
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 3: I would laugh in his face.

995
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 4: It's trying Trump back, And yes, especially now.

996
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: It would only help him politically. It would hurt Biden.

997
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: He knows that Biden's not gonna do anything at this point.

998
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: He you know, I can't even imagine. Guys, what is

999
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: the what the meetings like between Yoe f Galant Baby

1000
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 2: and Biden. I can't It's it's already we knew it

1001
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 2: was bad, you know, G seven Lean and others were

1002
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 2: leaking there like, oh my god, I can't believe it.

1003
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 3: I mean, we we're the left of the world.

1004
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: Biden's probably calling him golden my Yeah.

1005
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 3: If I was Taiwan, I would be freaking the fun out,

1006
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 3: like this is the time, this is the time to go.

1007
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 5: The d n C is in six seven weeks, right,

1008
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 5: Democratic National Convention there. Yeah, but I think it's it's

1009
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 5: it's fluid. Now it's going to solidify one way or

1010
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 5: the other in the next couple of days. There's certainly

1011
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 5: a world in which, like a week from now, we're like,

1012
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 5: remember when there was a moment where Democrats like, we're

1013
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 5: openly considering dumping Biden, And now they're just back to

1014
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:42,879
Speaker 5: the fantasyland that Biden.

1015
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 3: Is going to be their nomination.

1016
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: What do you what do you put the odds up? Oh?

1017
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 5: God, Like, I think the odds are probably pretty good

1018
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 5: that they just try to put this piece of pottery

1019
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 5: back together.

1020
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 3: And I have a statement form.

1021
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 2: We have the first statement from the Biden campaign. Tonight,

1022
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: President Biden presented a positive and winning vision for the

1023
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: future of America, one in which every American has a

1024
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: fair shout at the American dream.

1025
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.

1026
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: On the other hand side of the stage was Donald Trump,

1027
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: who offered a dark and a backwards window and to

1028
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: what America would look like the steps back in office,

1029
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: a country that puts the interests of billionaires or working

1030
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: people put three foreign president who not once, but twice,

1031
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: but three times failed to promise he would accept the

1032
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 2: results of a free and fair election. Trump's performance tonight

1033
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: reminded the American people why they fired him four years ago,

1034
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: reinforced to sow, Hi, the stakes are this November for

1035
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 2: the future of our country. So that is the I mean,

1036
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: look that Ryan, maybe you're right. I think they'll just

1037
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 2: come back to but Trump is that that's you know,

1038
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 2: that's it.

1039
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 5: So the uncommitted movement, yeah, they say, we all saw

1040
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 5: what just happened. We have thirty five uncommitted delegates in

1041
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 5: case anyone wants to contest the convention to save lives

1042
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 5: and our democracy. So there are thirty five delegates that

1043
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 5: were elected, how would they be able to contest?

1044
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: Though? Because Biden has the delegates, does he not?

1045
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 5: So basically, what you would be trying to get the

1046
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 5: other delegates to do is to be faithless towards spy.

1047
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: But in order to do that, you need people on

1048
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: the floor to say they try.

1049
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: To do this to Trump, right, you would have to

1050
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 2: have the leader, right, you'd have to have the leader

1051
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: of every state movement be faithless convinced those.

1052
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: People necessar are the leaders, Like, isn't it the delegates

1053
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 3: rule is like some rules, it's it's been decades, this

1054
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 3: just happened, that's the thing. It's I think it's literally

1055
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 3: I think the nineteen sixties might be the last time

1056
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 3: that something.

1057
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 5: Because yeah, they're they're like in most cases they're instructed,

1058
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 5: like they don't really have a choice of who they

1059
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 5: can vote for.

1060
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 3: But the bylaws and the rules are always like they're made.

1061
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 5: They're made by people. They can be changed by people,

1062
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 5: like you can you can win a floor knife fight.

1063
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 5: What they're saying is that if anybody wants to try that,

1064
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 5: the uncommitted delegates are available.

1065
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: They're ready to. I mean, Democrats still have super delegates too,

1066
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: which can just do what I want. They diminished their yeah,

1067
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: they've diminished their importance, but they still are a thing.

1068
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: So wouldn't that be the irony of ironies?

1069
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 7: It wasn't that the super delegate.

1070
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 5: Wasn't that the actual justification that in a moment of populism,

1071
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 5: like trouble for the nation, like they can be the

1072
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 5: wise ones or something.

1073
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: Now's your chansk, guys.

1074
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: That was real.

1075
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 2: But the irony is that was really education is the

1076
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: whole idea of the party decides and it puts itself

1077
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 2: above any individual candidate and protects its interests at the

1078
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: expense of somebody taking them over. Obama effectively destroyed that,

1079
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: you know, after well he destroyed it in a certain

1080
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: way and then took it over in his own image.

1081
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 3: Trump basically did the same thing over on the RNC side.

1082
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 2: So we're actually seeing a consequence of like weak party structures,

1083
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: but also just the fact is of cowards that are

1084
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 2: in office in the old days, the senators, the Chuck

1085
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:00,320
Speaker 2: Schumer has got nothing to lose. This man will be

1086
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 2: resigned to the you know, trash heap of history. He'll

1087
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: be the Senate Minority leader, and then when his term

1088
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,919
Speaker 2: is up, he's gone. He's almost he'll be eighty years old.

1089
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 2: Why do you have to lose at this point, being

1090
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: like Joe, it's over, dude, Well, I cannot back you.

1091
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 3: That's Pelosi too, You're how old is she eighty three?

1092
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 3: I think she's going to be older than that. She's

1093
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: older than Biden. What do you have to lose? It

1094
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: could be your last service to the country.

1095
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 12: Well, here's where that becomes even more important. Typically a

1096
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 12: truck schoomer in Nancy Pelosi. What they would have to

1097
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Speaker 12: lose is access to the powerful people running the country,

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Speaker 12: running the Democratic Party. It is clear to everybody right

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Speaker 12: now that Joe Biden is not going to be a

1100
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,240
Speaker 12: He's not really running things.

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00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 7: Even if his people are still in charge. But he's

1102
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 7: not long for you know, the next decade.

1103
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 12: He's not going to be here that long his post presidency,

1104
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 12: however long it is, it's not going to be like

1105
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 12: one of the guys that hung around, like Obama for example,

1106
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 12: Young still out there and Netflix all that stuff that's

1107
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 12: not happening. So they can afford to actually lose their

1108
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 12: access to the bidens at this point, because it's becoming

1109
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 12: a national disgrace. I think Joe Biden is going to

1110
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 12: take so much heat after this. That's the Biden Bidans

1111
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 12: are losing clout like in Washington right now by the minute.

1112
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 12: Whether or not it comes back is a different question

1113
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Speaker 12: that I'm genuinely curious about.

1114
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Speaker 1: Does the fact that they're going to do the actual

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Speaker 1: nomination remotely is.

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Speaker 3: That actually, I'm always going to snack.

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00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: That's probably a good point because guess what, then, you

1118
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: can't organize behind the scenes. You can't scream, you can't protest,

1119
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 2: you can't organize on a different ballot try to Because.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that makes it's a good point, yea. It makes

1121
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: it harder for level and it also shortens the time frame,

1122
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: right because the whole thing with this, guys is Ohio

1123
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Speaker 1: has some law that you know about deadline as to

1124
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Speaker 1: when the candidate has to be nominated in order for

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Speaker 1: it to get on the ballot. And my understanding was

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Speaker 1: that the Ohio h Republicans that are in charge of

1127
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: the legislature there, we're like, oh, we'll actually change the

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Speaker 1: law of Democrats.

1129
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Speaker 4: We're like, we don't trust you.

1130
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: We're still going to do the nomination early and remotely,

1131
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: and at the time it seems like, and I think

1132
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: this was the logic is like, oh, this will be

1133
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: a way to get our nomination done cleanly without having

1134
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: to worry about any protests over Palestine and the genocide

1135
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: and Gaza and so. But now it also serves them,

1136
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: serves Joe in terms of speeding up the timeline and

1137
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: also making them more difficult to organize some sort of

1138
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: a floor coup. I don't know.

1139
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, the only way is

1140
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: they have to stop the nomination on the first ballot.

1141
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 2: That becomes incredibly difficult because if he gets the nomination

1142
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: there on the first ballot, boom. I believe it gets

1143
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 2: goes forward and it gets gratified. I honestly think, all good, hope.

1144
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 2: I think this is all cope. It's on him now,

1145
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 2: it's on the elites too. He has to drop out

1146
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: or he's going to be the nominee.

1147
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's it, decides to don't.

1148
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. He is the one.

1149
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: He has the people they rig the debate or the

1150
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: primary for him, the Florida Democratic Party and others in

1151
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: multiple other large states that are pledged behind. I mean apparently,

1152
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: so our control room is cutting a clip right now.

1153
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 2: Gavin Newsome and Raphael Warnock were asked in the spin

1154
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:17,439
Speaker 2: room to react, and Gavin was given the opportunity. Someone said,

1155
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: do you think President Biden should step aside? And he

1156
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 2: said no, he said he was one undred, that wouldn't

1157
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: be next level. But I'm saying, even like the they're

1158
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: I think they're clinging to it, at least for not

1159
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 2: for sure.

1160
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what himself that he did not what

1161
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:35,959
Speaker 1: is he doing because he would have been the nominated.

1162
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 2: One of the big because that's that's a Chris Christie

1163
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 2: twenty twelve. Christy could have been the president.

1164
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is the.

1165
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 12: Person who I think the person who in the best

1166
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 12: night and all. This isn't trumpets RFK Junior truly.

1167
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the.

1168
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 12: Double hater thing is now going to be the theme

1169
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 12: of the election because again you have two guys talking

1170
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 12: about their freaking handicaps on the presidential debate stage, one which.

1171
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 7: Can barely keep his eyelids open.

1172
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 12: Well, they're fighting over it, and it's like, guys, take

1173
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 12: this to the country club, please, like get it off

1174
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 12: the damn debate stage. And I just I think you know,

1175
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 12: we've seen those numbers sometimes are better for Trump. But

1176
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 12: the way when you add r f K Junior and

1177
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 12: Jill Stein in though, But the way if Biden clings

1178
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 12: to this and holds on the way that some of

1179
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 12: those people might just totally go back to RFK. Because, interestingly,

1180
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 12: Chris Dawal pointed this out today, some of the biggest

1181
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 12: movement has been away from RFK Junior towards Biden in

1182
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 12: the last few weeks. And so, you know, it's marginal

1183
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 12: obviously when the margins are where they are, But what

1184
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 12: if we see a reversal of that and Democrats saying

1185
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 12: this is if Biden clings to it, as Ryan was

1186
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 12: saying earlier, we could definitely see after this debate another

1187
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 12: five percent, another ten percent, another fifteen percent going to

1188
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 12: RFK Junior.

1189
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Speaker 7: That's devastating. Wow, to both candidates.

1190
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 12: We don't know how it shakes out, but especially to Biden.

1191
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 1: Ryan's point earlier about how it really did change history

1192
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: to not have RFK on that stage is a very

1193
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 1: important one, Yes, because I do think I do think

1194
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: if he was there, you know, and people really are internalizing, oh,

1195
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: there's this other person out there, there's this other option

1196
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: who is younger.

1197
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 3: Than both of those.

1198
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 2: Guy, Yeah, he could become the direct competitor to Trump.

1199
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: That would that would have been the consequence. Still a

1200
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 2: two part system, that would have been the consequence, and.

1201
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 4: That could have that still could happen.

1202
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 3: People out there where.

1203
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 12: But that's a lot of incentive actually for Democrats because

1204
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 12: no matter what Joe Biden does for the rest of

1205
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 12: this selection, if he is the candidate, RFK Junior is

1206
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 12: going to get a very healthy bump, and that bump

1207
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 12: is going to help Trump at this point no more

1208
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 12: than Biden. So that's more incentive for Democrats as they

1209
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 12: panic to the word that Joy Reid used and think

1210
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 12: about this in those smoke filled back rooms for the

1211
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 12: next couple of days.

1212
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 7: The math with RFK Jr.

1213
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 2: Is that that should give them the incentive to We've

1214
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: gotten someone else. Kamala has disappeared on CNN. Here's here's

1215
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 2: what she says.

1216
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 3: Joe Biden is extraordinarily strong.

1217
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 2: What we saw tonight is the president making a very

1218
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: clear contrast with Donald Trump. Absolutely, for the first time

1219
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 2: life finally said something true. She says, yes, there was

1220
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,680
Speaker 2: a slow start, but it was a strong thing. But

1221
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 2: time is a flat circle.

1222
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 11: God as the moment in time, and she didn't just

1223
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 11: fall out of the I just you know what a

1224
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 11: strong But the fact that even.

1225
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: She has it's so dark.

1226
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's exactly when your vice president top shiller,

1227
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 3: like you don't want a slow start, slow middle, and never.

1228
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 1: I've actually never heard someone who's doing the spin acknowledge

1229
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: any weakness, good point.

1230
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 4: Any knew she had alone.

1231
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 12: The vice president got off to a little rock star,

1232
00:57:58,480 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 12: but he was great at the ends.

1233
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 7: My it's so viet for her to come out and

1234
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 7: be like he's verty's thrown.

1235
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 4: Let's play this game.

1236
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's say. Let's say Obama comes down, Bill Clinton,

1237
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: They all all right, Joe, it's done. Joe drops is

1238
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: a Kamala?

1239
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 3: Is that who? We get? A sensible Obama says, it's

1240
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 3: not you, it's not kam Law. We're going with.

1241
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: I think you know who I think he picks because

1242
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 2: you can't replace a black lady with a white guy.

1243
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: I go Gretchen Whitmer. That's what somebody said previously. I

1244
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: would take somebody like Greshen Whitmer Michigan, and he would

1245
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 2: He needs to have it pre selected all the conversation

1246
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: needs to have already happened.

1247
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 3: The two of you need to step aside.

1248
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 2: You can make the case that, you know whatever, she's

1249
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: the VP and we need to move on from the

1250
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 2: Biden Harris ticket or whatever. We go with Gretchen Gretchen Whitmer,

1251
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 2: And somebody tweeted, I think we said, Wes Moore is

1252
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: that with the governor of Maryland. So we need a

1253
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: black guy. Put him as the VP candidate.

1254
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 3: So then we get our all of our divers cigarettes.

1255
00:58:59,120 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: As VP.

1256
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 12: If we're gonna make a clean break to deal with her, like,

1257
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 12: they have to make a deal with her, so they

1258
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 12: have to do something that's right, Secretary, put.

1259
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: Her on the Supreme Court.

1260
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 5: Black go one on the Supreme Court. Her opinions would

1261
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 5: be amazing.

1262
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they put her on the just they

1263
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 2: make a deal with her of something, and they're like, look,

1264
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 2: we're going to take care of you.

1265
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: But it's jover.

1266
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: Whitmer is stepping in. Yeah, maybe I guess you could

1267
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: stick around in peach, but that's the way it would

1268
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: have to happen. Replace him, because Obama is not stupid.

1269
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: You can't apparently. Okay, so we do have a video

1270
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: of Gavin Newsom and of Raphael Warnack being asked in

1271
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: the spin room about whether Joe Biden should step aside.

1272
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 3: So let's go ahead and take a listen to how

1273
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 3: they spun it for the Convention is that there's consternation

1274
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 3: among Democrats.

1275
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 9: It's like David abstrot Of suggested the Democrats should look

1276
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 9: at replacing Joe Biden. Would you urge the presidential to

1277
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 9: reconsider moving for absolutely not.

1278
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 8: If you never turn my back in I don't know

1279
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 8: that personal point.

1280
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 10: Of view.

1281
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 8: That would be.

1282
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 13: Listen, listen, I would I would be I would be

1283
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 13: concerned if the president didn't have a record to rental.

1284
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 13: But the fact of the matter is this is a

1285
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 13: man who has passed his story legislation.

1286
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: Okay, it wasn't for the historical. Gavin Newsom says, I'm

1287
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 2: with him one hundred percent. But you know, the AP

1288
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,919
Speaker 2: just flashed exactly what you just said, Crystal Kamala Harris

1289
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: as Biden had slow starting the debate.

1290
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 3: That was with a strong fit. Because I think everybody

1291
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 3: can even pick that up.

1292
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 2: I mean when we have did we ever see Mike

1293
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: Pence once say but yeah, Trump, he was a little

1294
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: bit off the rail.

1295
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 3: At the end of the day.

1296
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 12: So really right, Pence would be like, and I just

1297
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 12: I want to just acknowledge that Donald J. Trump is

1298
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 12: the the greatest debate that the world see. That's exactly

1299
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 12: thank him for his confidence.

1300
01:00:58,560 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: That's shockingly good.

1301
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: Okay, has there ever been a worst debate performance? I mean,

1302
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: this is worse than the Nixon flop side.

1303
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 2: There's only rivals is Lloyd Benson versus I think Dan

1304
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: Quail when he said I know Jack Kennedy, You know, sir,

1305
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: with Jack Kennedy senator, you're.

1306
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 3: No Jack Kennedy. And then I mean I did genuinely

1307
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 3: the vice presidential so it doesn't count. There are two

1308
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 3: that might be the only one.

1309
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 12: There are two televised debates that are the most significant

1310
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 12: in American history.

1311
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 7: One is nineteen sixty and one is this.

1312
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 12: This belongs in the absolutely under This is the President

1313
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 12: of the United States melting on stage. He is the

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Speaker 12: acting president United States, melting on stage. Donald Trump being

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Speaker 12: the host of Celebrity Apprentice and debating Hillary Clinton was

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Speaker 12: spectacular for many reasons, like insane, I still can't believe that, believe.

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Speaker 1: It happens in primary perform ant's not forget about.

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Speaker 7: What Paul is ugly?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, why is rand Paul even on this city legendary? No,

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Speaker 2: but to bring it back, I actually think you're right, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: to rack my brain. I don't think there has ever

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Speaker 2: been a worst performance by a president ever.

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Speaker 1: Well, and more consequential, because it's one thing when you're

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Speaker 1: a candidate, yeah, the sitting president of the United States.

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Speaker 5: And just from a cynical perspective, it is true that

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Speaker 5: Republicans and the conservative media have taken some clips out

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Speaker 5: of context to make Biden look worse than he would

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Speaker 5: have looked in the full context.

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Speaker 7: Like that parachute guy.

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Speaker 5: But that's also part of how politics works. Your enemies,

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Speaker 5: your adversaries, are not going to treat you fairly. So

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Speaker 5: what this has done is that it has allowed them

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Speaker 5: to clip stuff from here until November, all day long

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Speaker 5: in context, out of context, it won't matter, and the

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Speaker 5: public will be like, yep, I believe that.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: And here's the thing is, they were starting to get

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Speaker 1: a little worried going into this debate because they realized

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Speaker 1: they had done such an effective job of making everyone

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Speaker 1: you know, that word cloud we put up on the screen,

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Speaker 1: literally every demographic, every partisan and identification says the number

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Speaker 1: when they think of WHI Joe Biden is old.

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Speaker 4: The expectations for him were so low, so low going.

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Speaker 1: In, just as in the State of the Union is

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Speaker 1: so low going in that you had a real effort

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Speaker 1: in conservative media this week to be like, I don't

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Speaker 1: know Joe Biden, Donald Trump, I think even was like

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Speaker 1: I saw him with Paul Ryan.

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Speaker 4: He did a great job. I think he's going to

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Speaker 4: do a fantastic job.

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Speaker 12: I had those thoughts myself, because there were he had

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Speaker 12: good moments in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: But us, all of us thought it no Ever, we've

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Speaker 2: seen him do fine enough when the moment called for it.

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Speaker 2: The State of the Union is our best example, Crystal.

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Speaker 2: I think your point is the is the best. Here

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Speaker 2: he was reading off a teleprompter when he actually is

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Speaker 2: required to use an iota of his brain.

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Speaker 3: He melts, just like he does in.

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Speaker 2: The press conferences that we've seen at the G seven

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Speaker 2: that we've seen avery spontaneous reaction. And so what we

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Speaker 2: saw here is why they did not put him up

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Speaker 2: for an interview with the Super Bowl. It is why

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Speaker 2: they have stopped him from doing less presidential press conferences

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Speaker 2: than Eddie Modern American president. When there is any iota

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Speaker 2: of chaos or any of that involved that they can't control,

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Speaker 2: he falls apart. And I cannot even imagine what these

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Speaker 2: meetings are like, what we were talking about, and these

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Speaker 2: situation room. I mean, it's just it blows the mind.

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Speaker 2: It's it's worse than we thought it really is.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm curious for your take on this.

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Speaker 5: I think if Trump missed anything, it was the opportunity

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Speaker 5: to kind of make fun of Biden a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think he should have. I think he

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Speaker 3: did the best thing.

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Speaker 2: When something is so bad, it's like when you're talking,

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Speaker 2: it's hard to explain, but it's like when someone is

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Speaker 2: so far gone, you have to show sympathy, and at

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Speaker 2: the best he's there, you go, I don't addle my

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Speaker 2: brain with disgusting drugs. But the point is that when

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Speaker 2: someone is that it is it is an act of

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Speaker 2: kindness and magnanimity to step back. And we saw that

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Speaker 2: with Trump to did you remember when he goes, this

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Speaker 2: is childish, let's not act childish.

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Speaker 3: I was like what, Yeah, I was like, what on.

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Speaker 1: The side, we have the one moment where he made

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Speaker 1: word Trump, this is f two guys that I'm queuing

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Speaker 1: up here where he did allude to the fact that

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Speaker 1: Biden is incoherent.

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Speaker 3: When he was.

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Speaker 8: President, he was taking separating babies from my mother's put

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Speaker 8: him in cages, making sure the families are separated. That's

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Speaker 8: not the right way to go. What I've done since

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Speaker 8: I've changed the law, what's happened. I've changed it in

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Speaker 8: a way that now you're in a situation where there

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Speaker 8: are forty percent fewer people coming across the border illegally.

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Speaker 3: It's better than when he left office.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to.

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Speaker 8: Continue to move until we get the total ban on

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Speaker 8: the total initiative relative to what we're going to do

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Speaker 8: with more border patrol and more asylum officers.

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Speaker 1: President Trump, I really don't know what he said at

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Speaker 1: the end of this sentence.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he knows what he said either. Look,

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Speaker 3: he doesn't know what he said either.

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Speaker 2: But in general, Corsault, even that I've seen Trump, I've

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Speaker 2: seen him go after people. We remember the whole disabled

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Speaker 2: thing for a man hit of him to comport himself

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Speaker 2: this way, I think and he understood in this moment,

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Speaker 2: I almost need to be a secondary character. And what

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Speaker 2: you and I all of us. We've been talking here

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Speaker 2: for about an hour and fifteen minutes. We barely talked

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Speaker 2: about Donald Trump's performance because that's not the story. And

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Speaker 2: I think Trump the showman, he understood that in that

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Speaker 2: moment he could he could have actually, he.

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Speaker 7: Probably could have lost the moment. He probably could have

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Speaker 7: gone a different thing on.

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Speaker 2: God in makes him almost makes him feel bad, makes

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Speaker 2: us feel bad.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thats the thing is, it just would have felt mean.

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Speaker 1: Like what he did there, that was fine.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that was that was it.

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Speaker 1: We didn't need you to lay out for us that

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Speaker 1: this was going terribly for Joe Biden. He's in coherent

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Speaker 1: c and Alan can't formulate a sentence, so we could

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Speaker 1: see that. Like I think if he had really gone

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Speaker 1: in on that, yeah, would it would have felt too mean.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it really would change anything, because

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Speaker 1: ultimately the story is Biden. But yeah, Trump smartly made

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Speaker 1: sure to step back for once and you know, let

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Speaker 1: Biden have the headline out of this debate.

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Speaker 5: If you watch, you watch Trump, like you watch Trump's

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Speaker 5: face just as Biden starts talking in the very beginning,

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Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, doing like double and triple takes, and

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Speaker 5: I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: It was just like wow, because it wasn't just the

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Speaker 1: incoherence or the inability to formulate a thought. It was

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Speaker 1: the look, it was the voice, It was the total package.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and I mean in that, you know, Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden had to leave him, leave him off stage, like

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Speaker 3: she had to lead him down the stairs. Come on,

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Speaker 3: we were all for the good of the country. Step

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Speaker 3: up if you love.

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Speaker 1: Your doing here. Because what they always said about that

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Speaker 1: that infamous Nixon Kenny Kennedy, the flop sweat debate, is

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Speaker 1: that people who listen on the radio actually thought Nixon

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Speaker 1: had won. But because it was televised and he's sweating

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Speaker 1: and the way he looks, nobody on the radio.

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Speaker 3: There was no.

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Speaker 4: Medium, and it's anyone was thinking maybe telegraph someone came across.

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Speaker 3: If you read the transcript, you still just be like

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Speaker 3: what theo was?

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Speaker 5: Medicare like, people don't even think Trump won, like they

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Speaker 5: think he won by default objectively, But.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're saying, really and lost, Yeah exactly. I

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Speaker 3: mean I don't even know what Trump said. He hung un.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even think or pay attention to what Trump

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Speaker 3: was saying. And I'm just like, I can't.

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Speaker 1: Killing people Palestinian.

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Speaker 7: That was interesting.

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Speaker 3: He's a Palestinian, but he's not even one. Not even

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Speaker 3: they like him.

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Speaker 1: He's weak because he's a weak Palestinian. Palestinians apparently the

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Speaker 1: floor now.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, it was just but was he trying to

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Speaker 5: be nice to Palestinians that like lots of are strong

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Speaker 5: or something you're thinking too deeply.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just like that was a good one.

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Speaker 1: It was.

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Speaker 2: We've got a question here from our locals chat for

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Speaker 2: our premium subscribers shout out, by the way breaking points

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Speaker 2: to support us, and they say, what is the drop

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Speaker 2: dead date? No pun intended for replacing Biden? So what

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Speaker 2: we've got six weeks? It will be the longest six

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Speaker 2: weeks in six weeks American political hitts.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't actually need to be on the Ohio ballot anyway,

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01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 5: because he's not going to win Ohio. But basically, you

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Speaker 5: have to be on every ballot that matters and gets

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Speaker 5: you to two seventy. But you have to be on

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Speaker 5: enough state ballots where you can win two hundred and

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Speaker 5: seventy plus votes, and that's really late August, early September.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking DNC virtually nominate Biden Harris.

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Speaker 12: But even then it's tough because of the electoral college.

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Speaker 12: So if you're only on you can you can get

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Speaker 12: to seventy. But in states, for example, if you're a Democrat,

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Speaker 12: it's a bunch of red states.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, no to seventy where you can plausibly

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Speaker 3: win as well.

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Speaker 2: Right, they need to replace him before the convention so

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Speaker 2: that they can get on the ballot and all, which

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Speaker 2: they're already all on the ballot on all fifty and

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Speaker 2: they can run if they were going to do.

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Speaker 3: Convention starts in nineteenth. When's the thing they're talking.

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Speaker 1: About, So it's I don't it says they haven't confirmed.

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Speaker 1: According to this ABC News article, they haven't confirmed a

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Speaker 1: date when the virtual nomination will happen, but it has

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Speaker 1: to be before the August seventh, Ohio ballot deadline, and

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Speaker 1: now that's.

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Speaker 5: Going to be so it's like a like a month

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Speaker 5: that could also become now more scandalous than it was

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Speaker 5: before because if they online, if they come.

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Speaker 3: Out, nobody was paying attention to this online thing.

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Speaker 5: To except this show was watching us. Those people were

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Speaker 5: paying attention, but the country was not. So now a sudden,

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Speaker 5: if you have a headline that says Democrats to rush

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Speaker 5: nomination of Biden two weeks before election.

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Speaker 3: Cheez, yes, this looks corrupt. True. Have Republicans changed it yet?

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Speaker 1: Changed the date for the Ohio ballot thing?

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure this is in July though, because so

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Speaker 3: they'll be fine, there's is like July nineteen. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I mean, did the Republicans change the law like they

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Speaker 3: said they would.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I'm not sure.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter because he's not gonna win Ohio.

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Speaker 2: All right, here's a question from a fellow five hundred

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Speaker 2: form of our premium subscribers. Could this be the moment

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Speaker 2: for third parties? And I think that actually might be

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Speaker 2: the most fascinating part of our discussion tonight.

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Speaker 12: I think Ryan's point about how it really was something

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Speaker 12: that changed the course of history to exclude RFK Junior

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Speaker 12: from this debate. You said something after Ryan made that

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Speaker 12: point about how it would have felt like it was

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Speaker 12: a two man race, not between Trump and Biden, but

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Speaker 12: between Trump and RFK Junior. And if ever there were

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Speaker 12: a moment for the third party, the plausible third party.

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Speaker 7: Candidate to hit that lane, well, I think it might.

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Speaker 12: Have been tonight, because they'll find a million different ways

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Speaker 12: if they replace Biden. I mean, they can find a

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Speaker 12: candidate that's even better. That makes RFK Junior less attractive

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Speaker 12: to certain voters.

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Speaker 3: So it could have been mentioned kicking himself not taking

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Speaker 3: that no labels.

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Speaker 12: Tonight could have been the night that the two party

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Speaker 12: system was dealt a significant The most significant blow.

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Speaker 2: To the alternative is that Biden hangs on RFK still

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Speaker 2: on the ballot, and he wins like thirty two percent

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Speaker 2: of the vote. That would be insane, That would actually

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Speaker 2: blow up the entire system.

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Speaker 7: Well like doesn't really want road numbers.

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Speaker 3: He could do better than that, Yeah, I mean he would.

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Speaker 2: If you win a third of the popular vote in

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Speaker 2: this country, that's it's game over. I mean, you created

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Speaker 2: regardless whether if.

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Speaker 5: It really doesn't create a three party system, you just

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Speaker 5: get a new two party system.

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Speaker 2: True, yeah, but I mean I mean in a certain way,

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Speaker 2: that's what's always happened, right with the hire third parties.

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Speaker 5: You absorb the go away right, the Republican. If all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden you have a multi party system, I

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Speaker 5: don't know. I just.

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Speaker 1: I think there are enough people who are still so

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Speaker 1: locked into just like you know, he's the Prize. He's

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Speaker 1: a Democrat, he's not Trump. You know. I I rfk

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Speaker 1: Junior will benefit, but I'm skeptical that you will have

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Speaker 1: enough people that will go to him, especially if he

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Speaker 1: continues to be shut out of mainstream forums, et cetera

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Speaker 1: to actually challenge.

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Speaker 7: But who the hell knows, Like it's harder to shut

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Speaker 7: him out going forward to.

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Speaker 1: Think so too there. I can tell you one thing's

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Speaker 1: for sure. If Biden is a Democratic nominee, there ain't

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Speaker 1: no way on hell they're doing that second debate.

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Speaker 11: That is.

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Speaker 10: No way.

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Speaker 3: It's actually COVID and ten weeks of isolation.

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Speaker 7: But they only announced it in the during the debate, like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we're so sorry.

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Speaker 4: What if he's down by ten?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, then they do what you suggest and they're just like, well,

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Speaker 1: hopefully the Senate in the House and we'll cross our fingers.

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Speaker 2: Eight. I think Biden will do it, and I think

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Speaker 2: he will be down by ten because Biden is so arrogant,

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Speaker 2: he'd be like, we're going to show him this time, Jack,

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Speaker 2: he's going to come back.

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Speaker 3: What if in his mind he's not? Unless But what

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Speaker 3: if they at the moment there was they're not going

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Speaker 3: to do.

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Speaker 7: But I'm saying hypothetically, what does that do to the ballots?

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Speaker 7: So if they don't, I saw.

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Speaker 1: A funny I saw an interesting question here. Someone said

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Speaker 1: I can't find it. Oh, here we go putting conspiracy

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Speaker 1: hat on? Was this debate pushed by deems to embarrass Biden?

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Speaker 3: I don't trust them enough to do that. It just

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01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 3: was the day there was Ryan you said that from

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Speaker 3: the beginning, you were like, some people are actually cheering him, right, yeah, right.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that's why they did it, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: definitely a lot of Democrats I think around the country

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01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 5: were like, this is our last chance to save the

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Speaker 5: party and save the country and save democracy. That if

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Speaker 5: Biden completely implodes on stage and they got their wish,

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Speaker 5: like they got the performance, that in a small d

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Speaker 5: democratic system would lead to him stepping down. And it's

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Speaker 5: a real test of whether there are any democratic veins

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Speaker 5: still kind of running through that body or not, because

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01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,560
Speaker 5: democracy is not just like running through the traps of

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Speaker 5: procedural elections. It's like actual, actually can the will of

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Speaker 5: a public be expressed through the various.

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Speaker 3: Systems and pressure you have. I'm so cynical. I don't

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Speaker 3: think so.

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think I think he. I think he

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01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 2: is arrogant, and I don't think or any of those

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01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: people have the courage to tell him that it's time

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01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 2: to go. And I think we are.

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Speaker 5: It's wow, Yeah, it's amazing contemplate. Yeah, wants him to run, yeah,

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01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 5: and be on the ballot. Yet he will be on

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01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 5: the ballot and.

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Speaker 3: That is not new.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the American people, the Democratic Party, how

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01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: many polls did we cover majority Democrats?

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Speaker 4: We want options, We do not want to just go

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Speaker 4: with Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: We would at least like to have some choices. And

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01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 1: what did the Democratic Party do in response? How about

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 1: we literally cancel primaries?

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 1: How about we do that because democracy is on the ballot.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they lost a bunch of mayoral races in Florida.

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Speaker 5: Did you follow that story? Yes, because he canceled the

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Speaker 5: primary and then Republicans were like, oh wait, I'm mayor

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Speaker 5: of this town, right?

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Speaker 3: Democratic town now right?

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Speaker 1: Because people didn't show up for the right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there have been so many criminal acts

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Speaker 2: like along the way that in retrospect, I mean, which

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Speaker 2: we called out here on the show live and we're like,

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Speaker 2: this is not going to look good.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be bad.

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Speaker 2: This could be a bad precedent. What about this primary?

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01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: What about this ridicule? After ridicule, people just move on

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01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:01,960
Speaker 2: and they thought they could bluff their way and this

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01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 2: is the result they got. So any closing remarks, what

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Speaker 2: do you guys think, Emily God bless America?

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Speaker 7: We beat Medicare Yeah, thank goodness.

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Speaker 4: By the way, that's it.

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Speaker 3: By the way, he goes, by the way, and he

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Speaker 3: had also had thirty seven sec of slacking dance and

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01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 3: she was like, do you She was like, do you

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01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 3: want to finish?

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Speaker 7: By the way.

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Speaker 1: That's actually what I wanted to close with is I'm

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Speaker 1: laughing a lot because it's so preposterous.

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01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,040
Speaker 3: But it's dark.

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01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is dark that we got, I mean everything

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01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 1: about it, that we got to this place, that this

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01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 1: is where we are as a country. These two dudes,

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01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: this guy who can't I mean, and your point about

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01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,120
Speaker 1: it being such a test of is there even a

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Speaker 1: shred of democracy? Actual democracy still operational? Because I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you pulled American people right now after watching that debate,

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01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:04,360
Speaker 1: what percentage of him would be like, yes, Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: all the way.

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Speaker 3: This is the guy.

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Speaker 2: Maybe five percent and they're all eighty years old, you think.

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01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 2: So they're like, you know what, I'm in my golden years. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm joining.

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Speaker 1: Honey, yeah, honey, to the country. To you who say

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01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 1: like I couldn't do the job, I wouldn't want to

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01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,600
Speaker 1: do the job, like I know what I feel like

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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, last thoughts.

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Speaker 5: Ryan Well Democrats had said privately, you know it's good

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01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 5: that this is so early so that if he botches

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01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 5: it terribly, we can recover.

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Speaker 3: So, you guys, we're going to find out if that

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01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 3: genius plan is going to work out.

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Speaker 2: All right, there we go. I think I've said everything.

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01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 2: I got nothing else left to say. We'll see they

1669
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 2: either pull him or they don't. I hope for the

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Speaker 2: sake of the country they do. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: If there is a second debate, we'll be here. If

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Speaker 2: there is a DNC where Joe Biden is nominated, will

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Speaker 2: be here or we'll be there.

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Speaker 3: And if they nominate somebody else will be there as well.

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Speaker 1: And it's going to be interesting as hell to see

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Speaker 1: how the media plays this, how democrats play this over

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Speaker 1: the coming days and weeks.

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Speaker 3: What a day, What a day in America.

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Speaker 1: Here