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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Crime Roundup with Nancy Grace and Cheryl McCollum. Today,

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Speaker 1: Rex Huerman, the Long Island serial killer accused, had two

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Speaker 1: additional victims tied to him. Y'all get ready, y'all better

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Speaker 1: hang on because this is a rodeo. Nancy, jump on

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Speaker 1: in here, honey, Cheryl.

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Speaker 2: The man's got DNA. The man's got the same location,

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Speaker 2: the same vehicle. Now we've got a play by play

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Speaker 2: handbook taken out of his home about how to catch victims,

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Speaker 2: how to catch them better the next time, even reminding

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Speaker 2: himself to get a better night's rest the night before

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Speaker 2: so there will be more time to quote play, to

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Speaker 2: get thicker rope, to decrease sound. You know, you can

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Speaker 2: keep saying, let edged and accused, but DNA doesn't lie.

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Speaker 2: Cheryl will come, you know, Cheryl. Many people have argued

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Speaker 2: since the bodies were first discovered that the Long Island

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Speaker 2: serial Killer and the butcher of Manival or in fact

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Speaker 2: two people. That is not true, As I've screamed from

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Speaker 2: the get go, I believe that that theory came about

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Speaker 2: because of the different mos modus operandi method of operation.

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Speaker 2: We see that these so called butcher of manerbil Akaa

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Speaker 2: Rexed Hureman would I think I could explain what was happening.

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Speaker 2: I think at the beginning Hureeman believed he had to

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Speaker 2: totally destroy any and all evidence connecting him to the bodies,

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Speaker 2: including watching the body and watching out body cavities as

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Speaker 2: is detailed in his playbook that we now know has

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Speaker 2: been found in his home. He would also cut off

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Speaker 2: their hands, their heads, get rid of distinguishing markings like

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Speaker 2: tattoos or birthmarks. That's how he got rid of the evidence.

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Speaker 2: Then I believe he got a little too comfy. It

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Speaker 2: was going a little too well, too much success, and

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Speaker 2: he became blase. Then he changes mo as sorry, just

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Speaker 2: dumping the bodies along, you'll go beach in a row,

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Speaker 2: essentially like a cemetery. It's always been making tention that

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Speaker 2: Long Island serial killer at Butcher of Manerville are one

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Speaker 2: and the same, and now we see that all he

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Speaker 2: did was get sloppy.

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Speaker 1: If this was our case, and I came into your

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Speaker 1: office and I said, let me tell you something. We

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Speaker 1: can now tie him to nineteen ninety three. You are

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Speaker 1: adding decades. We have now expanded the kill zone the

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Speaker 1: area and like you're saying the MO and the signatures.

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Speaker 1: If you look at an MO, all that means is

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Speaker 1: the person is learning how to do something better. So

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Speaker 1: when they were going to burglarize a home and they

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Speaker 1: buzzed out the window and then they realized, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: the victim was alerted and called the police. So then

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Speaker 1: they say, hey, I'm going to come and get some

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Speaker 1: glass cutter. So now they can't hear me when I

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Speaker 1: get the glass out of the way so I can

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Speaker 1: unlock the window or the door. That's all that DMO is.

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Speaker 2: Before I go into what we learned in court today,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about a scary scenario that I've

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Speaker 2: been thinking about. We know serial killers very often do

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Speaker 2: the same thing over and over. We know now because

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Speaker 2: body parts from a victim I've been found not only

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Speaker 2: in Gilgo Beach but also Mannerful, the same victim body

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Speaker 2: parts in two different places. Of course it's the same killer.

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Speaker 2: So we see Rex Huerman and I'm breaking out of

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Speaker 2: the mold. As far as the burial grounds, here's my

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Speaker 2: fear and my suspicion. I think, whether we find it

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Speaker 2: or not, Cheryl, there is another burial ground out there.

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Speaker 2: I think there are more victims, and I think there's

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Speaker 2: another burial ground. And mark my words, it may not

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Speaker 2: be today, it may not be tomorrow, it may not

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Speaker 2: be this year or next year, but there will be

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Speaker 2: other victims found because we see him. Why do I

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Speaker 2: say that, Because we see him already leaving the Mannibal

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Speaker 2: area burial area, and we see him going to kill go.

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Speaker 2: We see activity in multiple places, and I guarantee you

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Speaker 2: there's another place I don't know where.

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Speaker 1: We got thirty years now. And not only are there

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Speaker 1: going to be more victims, I think you're gonna see

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Speaker 1: twenty five thirty victims before this thing is completely done.

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Speaker 2: All you have to do is go back and see

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Speaker 2: whenever his wife left town. That's when there's gonna be killings,

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Speaker 2: at least one killings, and remember one killing. And remember

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Speaker 2: be a weekend at grandma's. Her trusts will be two weeks,

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Speaker 1: Plenty of time to do his stalking, his hunting, his prep,

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Speaker 1: the days of torture and then the body prep and

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Speaker 1: was there.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about you. I want to talk

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Speaker 2: to you about the thumbpins. He even wrote a note

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Speaker 2: to himself, I'm sure you've seen Dexter. It's one of

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Speaker 2: the only things that got me through my pregnancy. Dexter,

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Speaker 2: as we all know, the star of a fantasy about

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Speaker 2: a good guy serial killer is the only way I

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Speaker 2: can put it. Would always wrap the room and plastic

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Speaker 2: before he dismembered, killed and dismembered his victim. In this case,

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Speaker 2: we see Hureman writing to himself a note that says,

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Speaker 2: don't use tape to hold up the canvas, use thumbtacks.

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Speaker 2: Words to that effect. So he would actually cote the rooms,

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Speaker 2: cure the room. And that's why for a says couldn't

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Speaker 2: find as much DNA hair fibers as they had hoped

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Speaker 2: wrapping the room, apparently in canvas, and then I believe

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Speaker 2: he would burn the canvas that he draped the room.

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Speaker 1: The preparation, the time that he put into it, the

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Speaker 1: time that he took with the victim, the time that

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Speaker 1: he took with the disposal. I'm going to say again

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Speaker 1: what I have said from the very beginning. This is

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Speaker 1: all he does. There ain't no such thing as a

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Speaker 1: part times hero killer. This is what he spent his

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Speaker 1: money on. This is what he spent his time doing.

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Speaker 1: Everything he did was thinking about killing.

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Speaker 2: That's all he was thinking about. He was thinking about

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Speaker 2: getting off. It was thinking of about the sexual pleasure

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Speaker 2: and the ejaculation that would be his main goal in stalking, capturing,

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Speaker 2: woo wooing the victim. Because I personally spoke to one

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Speaker 2: of the women that he contacted. They went out to

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Speaker 2: him out to Long Island. He made all these plans

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Speaker 2: process where he would identify the victim, contact the victim,

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Speaker 2: woo the victim, trick the victim subdue her torture, her,

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Speaker 2: then he would relive it by the planning notes and

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Speaker 2: starting the process all over again. I mean, think about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a hunter, But what about these men that

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Speaker 2: get up in those of what do you say, dear Sands.

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Speaker 2: I guess you know he's with me, David, but you

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Speaker 2: y else? To shut up? David? At fourthly he just

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Speaker 2: actually says, shut up David. Now that that's what I

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Speaker 2: call Stockholm says, we're right there. But I mean, can

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Speaker 2: you know these guys that will go out no offense.

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Speaker 2: I don't care you go hunt. All you want to

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Speaker 2: is just not for me, dear saying yes, dear San

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Speaker 2: They'll sit up there in a raincoat for days and

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Speaker 2: they love it. See I would not like that, but

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Speaker 2: I want them to enjoy themselves. He Rex Huerman loved

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Speaker 2: the taste and he got off on it.

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Speaker 1: I want to get back to the John Douglas book.

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Speaker 1: He's got this book on his coffee table that is

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Speaker 1: all about mutilation and sexual violence. Reading John Douglas's book

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Speaker 1: was poorn to him, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about that, I think of Okay, here's something.

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Speaker 2: Every time I try a case, especially in murder case,

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Speaker 2: I'd learn something new, and I would not only learn

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Speaker 2: something new, I would identify things that I was doing

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Speaker 2: completely wrong. That's Awkwards. Well, you know people have these

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Speaker 2: horrible dreams where they show up to class and uh,

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Speaker 2: they're naked. Okay, you know I have a recurring dream

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Speaker 2: where I stand up in front of a huge you know,

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Speaker 2: defense layers, and I stand up to start the impaneling

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Speaker 2: process for the jury, and I can I remember the

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Speaker 2: foreign paneling questions? You know by heart, right, I've had

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Speaker 2: that same horrible dream over and over, and I'm immediately

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Speaker 2: started looking for al Dixon. Do you remember that, God

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Speaker 2: rest his soul immediately, you know, trying to find el

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Speaker 2: Dixon to send me a copy of the grand jury

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Speaker 2: and paneling quest This is the same dream over and

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Speaker 2: over and over again. Bottom line, you learn your own

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Speaker 2: errors and you try to perfect them next time around.

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Speaker 2: That's what Hureman was doing.

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Speaker 1: I believe that, But I also believe there's an element

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Speaker 1: he could not get the level of twistedness that he wanted.

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Speaker 2: Is that a word?

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Speaker 1: It is now? Now think about it, though, Nancy. Everything

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Speaker 1: he could find online would be made up. This was

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Speaker 1: real victims, real cases that he could read about and

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Speaker 1: fantasize about and then go try.

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, you know. We know they went back

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Speaker 2: La law Enforce and went back into human's home in

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Speaker 2: the last days. What could they possibly have missed the

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Speaker 2: first time they practically tore the whole thing apart. I

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Speaker 2: just wonder what, of course we'll we'll find out when

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Speaker 2: this goes to trial. But that floppy discasically a handbook

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Speaker 2: of how to that he himself wrote, I cannot wait

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Speaker 2: to see what all what is in there? And I

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Speaker 2: would I would give you one hundred dollars Cheryl McCollum

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Speaker 2: if I could hand that over to the jury and

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Speaker 2: go through it page I'd love to blow up each

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Speaker 2: of how he referred to the.

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Speaker 1: Victimy line, word for word, yep.

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Speaker 2: Word for a word, Cheryl oh h l N. Nobody's

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Speaker 2: leaving this courtroom through every page of that, every page.

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Speaker 1: Because again, that's what he wrote, that's what he was

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Speaker 1: concentrating on. That's what was important to him, this target.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget the body washed, don't forget rope, don't forget

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Speaker 1: to get.

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Speaker 2: Some can just go over it just that quickly. When

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Speaker 2: you say body wash, you may me think I'm in

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Speaker 2: some fancy hotel and they have those little containers of

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Speaker 2: quote body wash, a liquid soap. It sounds to me

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Speaker 2: like I'm squirting some sweet smelling, flowery, pinkish colored jel

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Speaker 2: or maybe green like peppermine. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: No, he was.

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Speaker 2: Cleaning out every havity, every body, havity, everything under the fingernails,

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Speaker 2: chopping the hands off so there would be absolutely no

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Speaker 2: phrase hadas left behind. And you call it a body wash.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's what he called it. That's why I

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Speaker 1: said it that way in his manifesto. So he's reminding

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Speaker 1: himself to do these things, to go get these you know,

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Speaker 1: the cat litter and everything.

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Speaker 2: I believe I would call this a manifesto. I would

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Speaker 2: call this a how to.

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Speaker 1: Well, they called it a blueprint, which.

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Speaker 2: I guess, yes, yes, really light, which goes back to

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Speaker 2: his architectural roots.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. This show does just like I think the

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Speaker 1: way he put the victims out, I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of those things. He could not stop being who he

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that again. I love the way you

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Speaker 1: Well, you're talking about three hundred and fifty electronic devices.

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Speaker 2: And you know, that's really amazing, Cheryl, that all these

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Speaker 2: Oh. I think these women were tortured for days on end.

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Speaker 1: I do too, But I also think there was maybe

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's got that kind of self control.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know how he could. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're right, you're right, because they were not all dismembered,

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Speaker 1: That's what I was saying. Like Bundy, he dismembered some,

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Speaker 2: You know what, little mon fact Bundy would actually post

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Speaker 2: mortem bathe the victims, put on their put on makeup,

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Speaker 2: don't know how you and I can even function in society, Cheryl,

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Speaker 1: Here's how we do it. We ain't gonna end on

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Speaker 1: something negative. I want to do a real quick crime

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Speaker 2: You do know I'm going about, let's say, seventy nine

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna do it right now. So you know,

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Speaker 1: You know, I did not realize how famous you got

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Speaker 1: That's right. I didn't know who she was. Seriously, that

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. But it's not me. It is not me.

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Speaker 2: You know why people are in a line. People are

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Speaker 2: And what I'm saying is it's not It really is

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Speaker 1: Well, I love that you said it that way, but

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Speaker 2: Cheerl Are we ever ever gonna sit down and have

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Speaker 2: You know I'm a teacher. You know that I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: He's got his earpiece in his ear for years and

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Speaker 1: That man can't get a birthday gift. He can't get

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Speaker 2: He doesn't know any better. He's over there just listening

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy.

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Speaker 2: So yes, you can come over and have some Dollar

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Speaker 1: Yep, we're gonna do it next week and then we'll

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