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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: This is the almost Famous podcast. Today I have a

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Speaker 2: very special episode. We are still sitting at the Bachelor

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Speaker 2: of mansion. It is holiday season, it is freezing cold,

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Speaker 2: but I have somebody who's gonna warm up my heart

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Speaker 2: because they're from the same hometown as I am. Nancy.

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Speaker 3: Welcome, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: So we have a backstory here, I'll tell it quickly.

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Speaker 2: But I was in Warsaw and d and I was

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Speaker 2: working at a U center right out of college. And

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Speaker 2: my boss at the time was the boss of myself

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Speaker 2: and actually your mom, yes, can can you believe that?

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Speaker 2: And my boss at the time said, Ben, you need

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Speaker 2: to get out a Warsaw because if you don't leave

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Speaker 2: Warsaw now, you will never leave Warsaw. And you at

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Speaker 2: least need to leave Warsaw for a period of time.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to forever, but at least for now.

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Speaker 2: She goes, my brother has a job in Denver that

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Speaker 2: I want you to go apply for, and I did,

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Speaker 2: and I ended up taking that job, and I moved

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Speaker 2: to Denver, which is my path to becoming the Bachelor.

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Speaker 2: Because somebody there sign me up for the show.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: And then I ended up here at this mansion walking

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Speaker 2: in as the Bachelor. But your mom was like my coworker, right.

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Speaker 2: We did youth camps together, we did after school programs together,

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Speaker 2: we did exercise, you know for the kids together.

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Speaker 3: You slept at church camp together.

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Speaker 2: At church camp together in yeah, in sepperate beds, I know.

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Speaker 2: But I was church camp and we did and we

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Speaker 2: were great together. But that was such a big part

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Speaker 2: of my life. And then I find out that you're

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Speaker 2: going on the show. You your brother, and actually your family.

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Speaker 2: A lot of your family live on the same lake

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Speaker 2: that I was living on, that I grew up on,

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Speaker 2: that the show shot, and that you grew up on.

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Speaker 2: So I was very excited to watch you come onto

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Speaker 2: The Golden Bachelor. So I have to get your backstory.

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Speaker 2: How did you end up on this show?

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Speaker 3: So my niece Abby, which I also have a picture of,

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Speaker 3: I have to show with these two. Abby's was last year,

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Speaker 3: twenty eight and it was Thanksgiving and she said, Aunt Nancy,

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Speaker 3: you know there's a new show, you know, for older

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Speaker 3: people dating, and she goes, you need to apply. It's

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Speaker 3: called The Golden Boulor. And I was like, oh, for

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Speaker 3: heaven's sake, I'm not going to do that. I was like, really,

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Speaker 3: and she goes, let me apply you and I said, wait, wait,

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Speaker 3: you can do it, but let me edit it. So

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Speaker 3: she did, and I thought, you know what, I have

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Speaker 3: nothing to lose by doing it. And I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you know my nephew Luke, my brother Rob's son Luke,

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Speaker 3: and who I know, you know.

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Speaker 2: Who worked for me for a few months here last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he reached out to you and said, do

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Speaker 3: you think she should do it? And he would say,

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Speaker 3: you know, I didn't know how all this worked. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: Tlight came on the show, but he said, Ben hasn't

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Speaker 3: really said anything. Ben said, why not do it? Well,

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Speaker 3: I think and now I know why because we all

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Speaker 3: you know, you just can't talk about it anyway. That's

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Speaker 3: what he said. So I thought, you know what, it's true,

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Speaker 3: why not do it? And so I they started calling me,

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I was like, it was

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Speaker 3: like winning the lotto, Like you don't think you're going

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Speaker 3: to win, and you're like, oh my gosh, why am

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Speaker 3: I buying a ticket? Okay, I'll buy a two dollars

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Speaker 3: ticket And then all of a sudden, you're like, oh

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Speaker 3: to me. So I feel like I win the lotto.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember when he texted me that I do,

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Speaker 2: and I bet I can pull it up right now.

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Speaker 3: But I know you couldn't see it.

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Speaker 2: I can say no, and I can say a lot no.

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Speaker 2: I can't because at this point I'm years removed. But

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Speaker 2: I get the question a lot from people. Every season.

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Speaker 2: Somebody knows somebody who's applying for the show, applying not

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Speaker 2: And you can give them a drawn out answer on well,

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Speaker 2: if they are a little crazy, no, if they're super normal, yes, whatever.

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Speaker 2: So what I've ended up over seven years came down

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Speaker 2: to for me, from my experience is why not?

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Speaker 3: Like and I love that, but that made me.

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Speaker 3: That's what I meant when I heard your answer from Luke. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: my nephew, he goes well, Ben said why not? And

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Speaker 3: I thought he's right, why not? And so I did

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Speaker 3: because I thought that'll never happen. Whatever. And you know,

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Speaker 3: want to meet somebody and I just haven't. So I

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Speaker 3: I self eliminated, you know, three quarters or of the

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Speaker 3: way through. There were then seven people left, and I

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Speaker 3: had a pickleball injury. And I had seen that Gary

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It was outward. I never

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Speaker 3: got a one on one date. It was just unfortunate,

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Speaker 3: but you know, that's the way it happens. And I

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Speaker 3: but anyway, it wasn't the guy. Yeah, And so I thought,

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Speaker 2: Well, it's knowing it is. It's like, this is such

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Speaker 2: a weird experience. There's no prepping you. There's no saying, hey, camera, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I can't prep you for this. What

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Speaker 2: I can tell you to do is be yourself, like,

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Speaker 2: the same question, why wouldn't you do this?

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Speaker 3: Like? Which I love and I'm saying thank you because

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Speaker 3: I really took that to heart.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like that really good, like just a little

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Speaker 2: do it. But if you can't, please show up to

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Speaker 2: La and come to the mansion. Yeah, it's worth the shot.

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Speaker 2: Why we're from Worseundiana and we're sitting in the Los

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Speaker 3: I want to say, then there's got to be something

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're really good at this. Indiana's really sharing all

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Speaker 3: Think got good corn fed roots.

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Speaker 2: The suriplicity is attractive to America, And I think I

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Speaker 2: You didn't find love here. Now, we've been talking to

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Speaker 2: what you found out once you entered into that room

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Speaker 3: I didn't feel alone the first night. I was excited.

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Speaker 3: We you know, I connected with everybody in my life.

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Speaker 3: The first night was so fun because we were all nobody,

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Speaker 3: We were all fresh, nobody knew what to expect, nobody'd

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Speaker 3: observe I was really nervous, Yeah, and so I really

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Speaker 3: And so looking back, I think I would have been

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Speaker 3: these four people, these four girls are really good TV.

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Speaker 3: They're dramatic, they're loud, they open their you know whatever,

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Speaker 3: I was like, I won't. I made sure that they

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Speaker 3: I was I was myself. I was genuine and I'm

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Speaker 2: No, I know exactly mean. Yeah, there's actually like stairs

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Speaker 2: that I got really good at napping in because I

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Speaker 2: was so nervous that I would separate, you did from India.

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Speaker 2: When I was on the Bachelorette in this house, I

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Speaker 2: the bachelor at the time said I want you here,

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Speaker 2: but you need to step up because you're you're gone.

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Speaker 2: As soon as like the moment you can get away

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Speaker 2: also wondered because I remember standing in this mansion on

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Speaker 2: night one and going back to the roots in Indiana

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Speaker 2: and knowing that town and knowing how close the town

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Speaker 2: that I was going on the show, and going I

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Speaker 2: want to show up well for them and for myself,

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Speaker 2: because the repercussions of that are a lot bigger even

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Speaker 2: that town, I'm going to feel it.

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Speaker 3: Did you feel that, Yes, yes, definitely. I mean I

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Speaker 3: and I wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something to be proud of. It is, and uh.

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Speaker 3: It is, but I you know, I get, like I

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Speaker 3: I was. I don't get as much attention or you know,

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Speaker 3: there's more people who have fifty thousand followers than you know,

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Speaker 3: all that stuff, and that makes me like, yeah, crazy anyway.

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Speaker 2: The thing that I've always said and even to like

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Speaker 2: the current Bachelor's so when the Bachelor calls, who's either

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Speaker 3: They loved it. They loved it that I did it,

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Speaker 3: They loved the like I feel like I got an

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Speaker 3: A plus, which for me, I know that sounds funny,

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Speaker 3: but you know my mother, yea cracker. I wanted an apel,

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Speaker 3: I wanted the gold star sticker. Yeah no, she's great,

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Speaker 3: but I but.

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Speaker 2: No, she is. You won a day plus plus. Like

436
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Speaker 2: how cool does it feel for her to be like,

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Speaker 2: I'm proud of.

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Speaker 3: You and you know what she is.

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 3: And I'm really thankful and my faith is a really

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Speaker 3: important thing to me, and I think that it really

442
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: helped get me through without a doubt the whole time.

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00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 3: But now going forward, you know, today I was watching

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Speaker 3: this show, you know, the end of After the Final Rows,

445
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: and it brought back or it made me sad at

446
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: the end for myself and also all the women on

447
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 3: the Golden Bachelor who didn't have get Gary, and then

448
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 3: all the other single people in the world who haven't

449
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: met their person or who haven't met their second person

450
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Speaker 3: as with you know, widows and people are divorced, but

451
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 3: that we're not supposed to be alone, and it's really

452
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Speaker 3: like it made me sad, like, oh my gosh, I

453
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: wanted to be Teresa, Like I wanted to have that.

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Speaker 3: But now I still have hope that I will, and

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Speaker 3: I think it's really important for people at home to

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Speaker 3: know that. And I've said it somewhere else that I

457
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 3: guess we just still have to keep putting ourselves out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what does life look like now? I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm a little scared to go back just speak. Well,

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Speaker 3: this has been so great and I've gotten to come

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Speaker 3: back several times to do different things, which has been great,

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Speaker 3: but now having this be the final, you know, I

463
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: don't know, but I'm hoping that through this has funny. Ben,

464
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Speaker 3: There's so many things that happened. I'm wearing a retainer

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Speaker 3: right now because three weeks before I came here, I

466
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Speaker 3: broke off not my front tooth, at a side tooth

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Speaker 3: I had. They had to pull it. I'm like, you are,

468
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: I'm going on a show. And I was sweating and

469
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 3: I was crying, and like all these doors kept opening,

470
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: like it kept They're like, we'll give you a retainer.

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00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: Nobody will know y'all have a tooth. But because I

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00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 3: have to have an implant, but it's one of my

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00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: front or you know, you could see it if I

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00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 3: didn't have an end, it's gone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was like, okay, God kidding me, Like where are

477
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Speaker 3: we going?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And doors kept opening, and Amy, Rob's wife and I

480
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: were very close, and Amy said, Nancy, I just have

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Speaker 3: this feeling the door keeps opening, keep going. When it closes,

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Speaker 3: you stop.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, you know my only and I've said a

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Speaker 2: public prayer. When I got well. The lady in my

485
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 2: office said, Ben, you should go on the show. Can

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Speaker 2: I sign you up? And I said, I'll help you

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Speaker 2: sign me up. So we sat the computer signed and

488
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: then they called the first time, and so I went

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00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: back home and I called my family and I was like, hey,

490
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 2: they called. I don't know what that means and I'm

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Speaker 2: My only prayer that made since Smith time was God,

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Speaker 2: please close one door if it's not supposed to be right,

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00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 2: like if it's my friends, like let them say no.

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00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: If it's my family, let them say no. If it's

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Speaker 2: my work, because I didn't want to leave my job,

496
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: let them say no. And all of them said, yeah,

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00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 2: you should go do it. And so that I was like,

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00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 2: I have no excuse. Every door just flew open. And

499
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: then they said, Ben, will you show up to LA

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Speaker 2: in two weeks and come film come Beyond the Bachelor.

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00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: I had nine days. Yeah, but all these other things

502
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 3: kept going wrong. I have problems with my right eye whatever.

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00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: I had to have it. My eye thing done anyway,

504
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,959
Speaker 3: and I was like, okay, I'm not meant to go.

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00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 3: Sure enough it got better. Things work and I was

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Speaker 3: like why not, And so I was like, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're going.

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Speaker 2: It's worth it. Yeah, it's good, Nancy. It's really fun

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Speaker 2: to have you out here. It's weird to be in

510
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: Los Angeles a bachelor. I believe it from Indiana. Seven

511
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: years after my run on The Bachelor, I am now

512
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: sitting across from somebody else from Warsaw who has been

513
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: on a show that is a part of the Bachelor family.

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00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: It's been so fun to have you guys out here.

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00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: It's been so fun to have you out here. You

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00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: walking today, and I said, I told one of the

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Speaker 2: girls here, I said, please tell me what Nancy walks in,

518
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: because I want to make sure to go up to

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00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: her right away and say hello.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: I'll see you again, I hope, and I wish you

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00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: the best in this next season. I life you, and

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Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you for doing this. I mean

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Speaker 2: it is it's like I'm learning a lot from you.

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Speaker 2: But I'm also just like really glad that you did it,

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00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: because it's been really fun to follow along with your I.

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Speaker 3: Say, yeah, I'm really glad I did it, and I'm

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Speaker 3: very grateful. I'm like, thank you God for the experience,

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Speaker 3: thank you for the open doors. And when the door closes,

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Speaker 3: all stop. But you know what, I'm I just have

531
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Speaker 3: faith that I was, for whatever reason, meant to do

532
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 3: it even in my little you know, all my friends

533
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: are so much bigger personalities and they have so many

534
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 3: more followers and all that. I'm not really into that,

535
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 3: Like I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

537
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 3: Maybe I should be, but they have people to do

538
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: all their stuff and anyway, I'm I'm just not like that.

539
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 3: I wish I was. Maybe I'll get better at it,

540
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 3: but I just I'm trying to just roll with it. Yeah,

541
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Speaker 3: because I feel like for some reason, I'm Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: A fun ride. It's a fun ride. You're you're here

543
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: at the Bachelor Mansion with Sugar Ray, You're here with

544
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: new kids on the block somewhere, they're all here somewhere.

545
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: Think about your life now, Nancy. You show up to

546
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Speaker 2: La and all of a sudden you're hanging out at

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Speaker 2: the same house having dinner.

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Speaker 3: Do I get to meet them?

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00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: Sure? You do? You get back out there.

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00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 3: Though, Okay, insane, you're kidding me.

551
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 2: You can make it happen, you can.

552
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: You're this is your party.

553
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is my party, I guess.

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00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: So.

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00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been it's fun and the ride is just beginning.

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Speaker 2: I'm so pumped for you. Well, hey, this has been

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00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 2: another episode of almost famous podcast, I've Been Ben, you

558
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: say I've been, Nancy. I've been Nancy and I will

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Speaker 2: be back very soon with more incredible interviews. But until

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Speaker 2: next time, tune in, download and Nancy, thank you, thank

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Speaker 2: you too.

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