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Speaker 2: Mare, oh see you look over There is that culture? Yes,

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Speaker 2: lost culture, ding Dong Los culting. We sort of gave

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Speaker 2: dark vibes today for Spider Worms Spider Woman.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I should say miss we excited.

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Speaker 1: Miss moy excited for our guests. It goes all the

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Speaker 2: This is a moment I lost culture story because it's

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Speaker 2: not every day we get a full blown, for real

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Speaker 2: fucking icon in the seats. On one hand, honestly, I

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Speaker 2: mean truly, I mean there was a moment in the

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Speaker 2: new film Kiss of the Spider Woman, which is great,

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Speaker 2: and our guest is fantastic in it, and we want

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Speaker 2: to talk all about it where she sort of looks

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Speaker 2: and I was like, I was back like watching Selena God.

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Speaker 2: has brought joy continues to in all forms of media

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Speaker 2: and entertainer in every sense of the word. This has

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Speaker 2: been always a J low Stand podcast.

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Speaker 1: And you guys know that I think we gay.

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Speaker 2: I think I love you Poppy was on the Great

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Speaker 1: We ranked the three at the top three hundred claws

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Speaker 1: of all time. And I love you Poppy's that's right,

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Speaker 1: that's right, we love I love you Poppy.

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Speaker 2: Come on, come on now, please everyone, it's time to

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Speaker 2: welcome into your ears.

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Lope.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, I think we.

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Speaker 1: Lie y'allmy id such an introduction.

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Speaker 3: Listen, maybe maybe you know? Are you like a frivolous

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Speaker 1: I love it? I love it. My whole life is

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Speaker 1: a frivolous time.

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Speaker 3: Except I feel like you get you get thrown into

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Speaker 3: like I'm sorry. These like rigid interviews where they where

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Speaker 3: the people like don't know what to ask you.

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Speaker 1: It's true and it's a little bit repetitive, and so

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Speaker 1: this will be fun. I think I was looking forward

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Speaker 2: No, this is gonna be fun because I have a

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Speaker 2: question for you, which I don't think you get asked

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Speaker 2: a lot. We have something in common. We were both

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Speaker 2: high school track athletes. Oh yes, okay, I want to

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Speaker 1: I started a track when I was in I want

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Speaker 1: to say fourth grade. That's early. Yeah. So you were

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Speaker 1: running five or six years fift or sixth grade? Yes, seventh?

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Speaker 1: I started? Yeah, yeah, yeah? So what were your events?

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Speaker 1: I was eight hundred yeah, tough, fifteen hundred meter. We

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Speaker 1: I was a miler and you too? Come on middle discs.

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Speaker 1: So you were for real. I was for real? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: of course you were. Yeah. No, I thought that. There

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Speaker 1: I loved tennis. I had like a great, like backhand

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Speaker 1: I sucked at basketball. It's the finesse of it. I

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think so. I think that's just

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Speaker 3: But was there like a precipice of you, like because

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Speaker 1: But it didn't like it wasn't my passion. It didn't

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Speaker 2: I do here, Yeah, at a certain point, like I

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Speaker 2: think people that don't have, like you know, because you

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Speaker 3: When you hosted SNL when I was there, I feel

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because you guys did not have that much time

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Speaker 1: say motherfucker around podcast. This might be one of my

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: But we were so excited you were coming.

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Speaker 2: You have to know like this is And I said

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Speaker 2: that it brought me all the way back to Selena,

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Speaker 2: and I feel like, while you're here, we do have

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Speaker 1: So this movie came out in ninety seven, just to

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Speaker 2: Way back, right, so it would be a couple of

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Speaker 3: Like like like like Molina ton it to you, like

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Speaker 1: you said, he looks up to and he wants to

436
00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 1: be like. And she's the perfect woman. And in this

437
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 1: movie in particular, she's like this siren and she's amazing

438
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 1: and all of that. And it's funny because I identified most

439
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 1: now with the Spider Woman, now the Wara, even though

440
00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,000
Speaker 1: there were parts of me that I feel were very

441
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 1: much like each of those characters. They're very different, but

442
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,200
Speaker 1: Ingrid Luna was the one that was most like me, right,

443
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 1: because she's an entertainer, always a vessel for all these

444
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,159
Speaker 1: different things. And one of my favorite moments in the

445
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: movie was doing where you are. Oh my god, it's

446
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: a show straight. So that's where I say to him, like,

447
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: come with me, let's escape together. Let's escape into this song,

448
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,919
Speaker 1: Let's escape into this movie, Let's escape into this world.

449
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 1: Forget you're in a prison. Don't be where you Are

450
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: be with me. Let's go have fun. And I can't

451
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: tell you how many times in my own life I

452
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 1: have had someone come up to me and say this

453
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: song got me through this or this you know movie

454
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: made me dream and want to do what I'm doing today,

455
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 1: and today I'm a set decorator or whatever. It is,

456
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 1: like so many different stories, this one helped me get

457
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: through my mom. She died when I was twelve, and

458
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,199
Speaker 1: you came like my zooto mom out there, you know.

459
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 1: And the more I kind of keep going, they keep going.

460
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: And when they see me fall down and they see

461
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: me get back up. But what they don't realize. And

462
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: what I love about the movie and I love about

463
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: that number where You Are, is that he saves her

464
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: too in that she goes you know, she touches his

465
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: face at the end of it was very important to me.

466
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: I was like, can he put his head on my

467
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: shoulder please? Bill? And can I just touch his face there?

468
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,639
Speaker 1: I know that there's a separation of like the movie

469
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 1: and it's not real and all of that in the movie,

470
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: but the movie within the movie, I said, but I

471
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: really feel like I want to touch And when I

472
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: say my sweetest fan, I said, because he does the

473
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: same thing for her that she does for him, right,

474
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: she immortalizes her. And because I can't tell you that

475
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: in the hardest times of my personal life, how my

476
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: own you know, fans and followers get me through. They

477
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: get you through, they really do, because you go, I

478
00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: can't let them down. I can't fall right now. I can't.

479
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 1: I can get through this and I can show them

480
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: that I can get through this and it is going

481
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: to be okay. Not only it's going to be okay.

482
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: And I do this with my kids as well. It's

483
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: like I'm going to get through and I said this

484
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: to my kids. We're going to get through this. We're

485
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: going to be better, better, better, I'm going to be

486
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: stronger and you're going to see that, and you're going

487
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:18,400
Speaker 1: to see that you can do it in your own

488
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: life too. But that relationship is such an important relationship

489
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: and a real relationship in my life, even though we

490
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 1: don't know each other personally, it's a real relationship.

491
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 3: I was going to ask, because I feel like you've

492
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: withstood so many different forms of weird celebrity culture, right,

493
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 3: like tabloidshit, then the paparazzi peak, given like the odds Now,

494
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 3: it's like stand culture and just the internet, social media

495
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 3: beast and social media. It's like I was going to

496
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 3: ask you, like how you maintain that humanity throughout that

497
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 3: those different eras of celebrity culture. But I feel like

498
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: you've answered it, Like it's the fans that get you through.

499
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

500
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 1: And it's all the same, right, whether it was the

501
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: tabloids or whether it's social media or whatever it is,

502
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: or the normal media, any of it, and people can

503
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: be harsh and cruel. It was the same thing when

504
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: I first started. And you get your first bad review

505
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: or you get your first thing, you learn that it

506
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: does not define you, that you know who you are.

507
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: And the more I can put my feet on the

508
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 1: ground and go who am I? Who am I? Do?

509
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: I know who I am? And it sets you on

510
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: a search to really be in touch with yourself all

511
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: the time because it's so easy to listen to you

512
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: and this is anybody. You don't have to be a

513
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: celebrity for people to kind of say things about you,

514
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: and you go ahead, you know, and they destroy you.

515
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: They destroy a side of you, you know, They hurt

516
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: your ego, they hurt your your mind, They live inside

517
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: rent free in your head all of those things, right,

518
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: But the truth is if you really know who you

519
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: are and you stick to that and you stay close

520
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: to that, I have a really try to have a

521
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: really strong relationship with God and myself first before I

522
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: can have it with anybody else. And this I've learned

523
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: over years. Thing I had figured out, you know, when

524
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: I was younger. But when I was younger and I

525
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: first started into the business, I used to say to

526
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: myself when I put my head down on the pillow

527
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: at night, am I proud of who I am? Right?

528
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 1: Am I proud of what I did today? Did I

529
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 1: treat people well? Did I do my best? Was I kind?

530
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 1: You know? And those things are the things that matter

531
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: to me. And I can put my head down a

532
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 1: pillow and say those things, So it doesn't matter what

533
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: other people think or think they know or think they're

534
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: hear or doesn't. It doesn't really affect me in that way.

535
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 3: Because on the flip side of this, I think it's

536
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: my favorite thing about your work is this thing that

537
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 3: you do where it feels like there's this cultural needment

538
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 3: around like what Jlo can do, and it's like every

539
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,439
Speaker 3: every few years, it's like Oh, yeah, I forgot that

540
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: she was an amazing dancer. I forgot that you or

541
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 3: I forgot that she was so funny. Oh I forgot

542
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: that she Oh my god, she looks good in all

543
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: these clothes. Oh my god, I forgot she's a good singer.

544
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 3: It's like there's all these different like it's like you're

545
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 3: re auditioning for Like it's because like they get lost

546
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 3: in this offs of like what people what the chatter is.

547
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: But meanwhile, you know that you can do all these things,

548
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: and you're just reminding people all the time.

549
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm it's not even that part of reminding them.

550
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: It's I keep doing what I love to do no

551
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: matter what. Yeah, I'm in the pursuit of kind of

552
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: finding projects and things that excite me and just doing that.

553
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: And what I'm learning to do more of now is

554
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 1: wait and not do all the things that excite metcha

555
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: Like it did little. It's hard, but last year when

556
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: I had to cancel my tour and I took a

557
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: whole year off, I finished Spider Woman last March and

558
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: I didn't start another movie till the following this following March,

559
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: I did Office Romance, and during that year I was.

560
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: I literally just sat in like a rocking chair, you know.

561
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: I was with my Yeah, but I was with my kids.

562
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: I really wanted them to feel me and I didn't

563
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: want to be away from them, and we reconnected in

564
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: a way because I've always been a working single mom

565
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: for most of their life, and so it was it

566
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: was so nice for them to have me there every

567
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 1: single day for a year, which was so different for

568
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: them and for me, but also for me. While they're

569
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: at school and while they're doing whatever they're doing, or

570
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,959
Speaker 1: they're away at camp or doing their things with their friends,

571
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: it's just me by myself, and I got to really

572
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: kind of feel good about it's not ever going away.

573
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: It's there. You've done it, like you you proved it,

574
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: you did it, you did it. And it made me

575
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: be like, like, you have nothing approved. You should just

576
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: be doing shit you love when you want to do it,

577
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: and you don't have to do all the things. But

578
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: I was on the all the things program for a

579
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: long time. Yes I do. It's like, yeah, I'll do that,

580
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: I'll do that. I'll do that. I'll do that because

581
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: I loved it, and it's just you're filling a hole.

582
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: You realize that you're filling a hole in that way.

583
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 3: It's not even that, it's just that you were again

584
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: like raising these kids and now they were like in

585
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: their teams.

586
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: Jobs and go into college like they're graduating this year.

587
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 3: Whoa, that's wild the twins.

588
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

589
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 3: You're letting that go slowly, Like that's that that part

590
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: of your life is fading out, like you're changing different.

591
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: It's different, and so then all.

592
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 3: These other things start to follow away to Yeah, you know,

593
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 3: maybe that's it. It's not feeling avoid necessarily.

594
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: I mean back in the day, I feel like it

595
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: a little bit was and now and what I'm saying

596
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: is like I've learned that I can there can be

597
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: times when I'm doing nothing and it's okay, yeah it's important.

598
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: It's it's actually gonna make me better. Yeah, it's actually

599
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: when I do take on something that really excites me.

600
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: Does this really Now I do the thing where it's

601
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: like I drive everybody crazy? Does this really exciting? I mean,

602
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna take time away from the house, and do

603
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: I want to do that?

604
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: Now?

605
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to pass on that. I'm going to stay

606
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: home to pick out pillows online. Totally you know what

607
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy. The online shopping is a problem.

608
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: The thing about redound therapy. No, but it's just like

609
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: I'll be here sitting in the rocking chair thinking about life,

610
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: dreaming about things, dreaming about the next thing and what

611
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: it'll be like, and you know that type of thing.

612
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 2: Well, that's also a big part of the creative process too,

613
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: is the silence. I think I believe it was Mikila

614
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: Coel who like and when she won her Emmy, she

615
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: gave the most beautiful speech. She was like, don't be

616
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: afraid of the silence. Go to the silence, because the

617
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: silence is what's going to tell you what the next

618
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: thing is. And that thing that you hear in the

619
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: silence might be scary, but don't.

620
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: Be afraid to do. What room was the rocking chair in.

621
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: It's outside on my back porch, faces a tree in

622
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: the backyard, and it was by a little fireplace, and

623
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: I just sit there and look at the sky. What

624
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: kind of rocking chair is the vintage it's it's in now.

625
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: It's like an outdoor, right, it's vintagey looking, yes, And

626
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: I sit there with it's very funny. It's a little

627
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: bit granny. I sit there with a blanket on my lap,

628
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: I put my feet up, I put like my ipadal

629
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: here in case I need to online. Yeah, and I

630
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: just and I just sit there and people call or

631
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: they don't call. A lot of times I'll listen to

632
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: a book or I'll read a book or you know,

633
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: and then I'll think about that and I'll take notes

634
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: on the book. And yeah, it's just elevating my consciousness.

635
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: So it's fantastic. Get a little tea. There's a little

636
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: tea moment. I like a pretty tea cup, you know,

637
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 1: just I would imaginable stuff.

638
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: Also, like even just the opportunity to be by yourself

639
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: period is great because like when you are you, I

640
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: would imagine it's a lot of people. It's a lot

641
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: of being handled. It's a lot of the time, yeah,

642
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: you know, to say nothing of like everyone out there

643
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: in the world wanting to weigh it's just like a

644
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: lot of physical people touching and moving and handling and

645
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: stuff like that.

646
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: I was just in the bath I stopped to just

647
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom here on the way and hear

648
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: somebody comes in while I'm being they're ready for I'm like,

649
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: are you serious? I'll be right there. We sent them

650
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: in there. I'll be there in two seconds.

651
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: No, but it's it's I I sometimes think about that,

652
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: like we obviously do shows and tour in a totally

653
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: different way, but it is kind of interesting when like

654
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: it's excitement and then the silence.

655
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like just that like you know, I love

656
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: I love that, I love you know. I was on

657
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: tour this I loved being on tour this summer and

658
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: it was like stadium and then it was like nothing. Yeah,

659
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 1: it was like it's like a bath. Yeah, it's yummy.

660
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: I think it's time to ask Jennifer Lopez the question.

661
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, so Jennifer Lopez, I feel like we're getting

662
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: a little hints as we talk. Yeah, but this is

663
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: the central question of our podcast, which is what was

664
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: the culture that made you say culture was for you,

665
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: like defining art or other other things in your life

666
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: that I would have to say.

667
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 1: It was my mom showing me West Side Story and

668
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: then Barbar streisand and funny Girl, You're in the right

669
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: Place two moments for me. Just I could never live

670
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: up to what that is. I will always be chasing

671
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: that in a way because it was as a little girl.

672
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is what I want to

673
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: do with my life. This is the culture, whatever this

674
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: culture is, whatever this world is, that's what I want

675
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: to be doing. And I feel like I'm just arriving

676
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: there now with Kiss the Spider Woman, and I feel

677
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: like my my world now is going to it's like

678
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: returning to yourself. Yeah again, right, like back to the

679
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: little girl, the dreams and having that opportunity to do

680
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: that and now like incorporating that to everything, Like now

681
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: I'm doing setting up my Vegas residency, you know for

682
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: New Year's leave and all of that colseum, right Caesar

683
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: Caesar at the Coliseum where Adele just was, and I'm

684
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, thinking of like doing a totally different type

685
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: of show than I've ever done. Wow, it's going to

686
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: be and it's still you know, as entertaining as ever,

687
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: but even more so in a different way incorporating these

688
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: things that were always my influences since I was a

689
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: little girl. So it's gonna be fun.

690
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,239
Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons why I'm so excited that

691
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: you ended in this chair for this movie, because I

692
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: knew it would connect to this question. And I feel

693
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: like when you say Barbara Streis and Funny Girls. Oh

694
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: my god, like he shared that when you got when

695
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: you came to HOSTESSNL, you had a Barbara Bag.

696
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: The coach bag. Yes it was.

697
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: I texted him right after. I was like, oh my god, Jayla.

698
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: I commented on djala'strisand Bag and Funny Girl play that.

699
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: Movie on a loop. When I was a little I mean,

700
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: there was no other movies for me except West Side Story,

701
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: A Funny Girl. That's it. It made me want to

702
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: do what I did with my life and still inspires

703
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: me to reach for that that level of what they

704
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: did in those movies.

705
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: You should put a boy like that on the set

706
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 3: list for the.

707
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: You know it's funny. I'll invite you both to the

708
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: show so you can see it and you'll see what

709
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: I'm doing. It's very different to New But I'm gonna

710
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: do all my hits, all my songs, but it's gonna

711
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: be you. I'm excited.

712
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 3: Well, what were you identifying with the West Side Story.

713
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: Were you like, I'm Natalie Wood or I'm readA Moreno.

714
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like the gang leaders girlfriends. Yeah,

715
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: of course in the dress who was dancing in the

716
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: middle of the gym and stealing the show and yeah,

717
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: but I just loved her. I loved her so much

718
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: and readA Morena was so good and that in a

719
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: boy like that. I mean, it's just in America, the

720
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: whole thing.

721
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 3: America is one of the best. It's still one of

722
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,439
Speaker 3: the best musical made.

723
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: Yeah ever, ever, ever.

724
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they did an amazing job with the with

725
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: the reboot as well.

726
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: I agree, Like I thought that number.

727
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 2: In particular too, I was like so like grand and

728
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: it really blew me away.

729
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, from Funny Girl, it would be my man. I

730
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: see it, I see it. I've sung it many times.

731
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: I love it. There's there's so many songs. It's a

732
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: great show itself. Yeah, yeah, I love it. I think

733
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: my man, I remember just that last moment and knowing

734
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: the story it's just all black and she stands there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

735
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: I love that one. Hold. I sang that for my

736
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: kid's dad's birthday when he turned forty. I threw him

737
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: a big birthday party. I had ran a triathlon that day.

738
00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: Casual All the Things program You Get up All the

739
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: Things is title of that.

740
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: Because the kids were six months old. He was turning

741
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: forty in September, and I decided when the kids, when

742
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: I was still burned, I was like, I'm going to

743
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: do a triathlon when the kids after I give birth

744
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: to get back into shape. Wow ya triathlon, right, But

745
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm giving myself a goal. There was

746
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: a show on TV and this kid was like, I'm

747
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: going to do a triathlon. I was like, I could

748
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: do it.

749
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 2: Try.

750
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, they're like a preached whale, like twins fifty

751
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: pounds my belly. And I'm looking at it and I'm thinking,

752
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to do a triathlon. And I started looking

753
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: to see when a triathlon was and there was one

754
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: in Malibu on September whatever. And then it just so

755
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: happened that Mark was turning forty years old, and I

756
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: was like, well, his birthday's on the same day. We'll

757
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: do the party and it will throw him off because

758
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: I'll do the triathlon that morning. That will be the focus.

759
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: And then we're going to just go back home and whatever,

760
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: and oh so and so's having a dinner and we

761
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: have to go to it, but we'll get changed on

762
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: the plane and whatever. And we walk in and he's surprised.

763
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: He's like, what the hell is having huge surprise and

764
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: then I disappear and he's like, where did Jennifer disappear to?

765
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: And then I come out and I sing, my man,

766
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: just a casual day. That's a fourth sport. Yeah. I

767
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: realize now as I say it out loud how crazy

768
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: it is, because I talked about that in twenty years.

769
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know the running, swimming, biking and singing

770
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: and belting, the belting belting Barbara, Wow.

771
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, killed for that. Yeah, it was fun. That was

772
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: a fun day. So were you? And then we left

773
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: to Europe that night. Oh, vacation with the babies here.

774
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: You would you please with your time in the triathlon

775
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: or do you? I guess you didn't have much to

776
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 2: compare it, touse.

777
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: I have stories about the triathlon that are crazy. What

778
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: happened during it? Yes? Yeah, well the swim is the

779
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,959
Speaker 1: crazy thing. Crazy. You know, you go and you're looking

780
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: at the ocean for the first time and you're like,

781
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to moving to the bowie, but not the

782
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: first one, the third one. Yeah, Okay, I'm sure there's

783
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: sharks out there. I'm almost positive that there's big fish

784
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: in there.

785
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is not going through your mind when you're like,

786
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a trap the.

787
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: Pool at the high school. You're swimming seventy laps and

788
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: feeling like you're a wonder woman. No, no, it was crazy,

789
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 1: but I did it. And you're supposed to have you

790
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: like your bike set up. You know, your bike set

791
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: up so when you come out of the water with

792
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: your wet suit, you peel off the wet suit, right,

793
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: you go over and you know, you get on your bike,

794
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: you put on your sneakers, and then you bike for

795
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: eighteen miles or whatever it is, and then you run

796
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: four miles after that, so you have to have your

797
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: running sneakers on on the whatever. So yeah, have you

798
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: ever run a marathon? No? I mean no, that feels

799
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: like it would be too hard, right, it's crazy town.

800
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 3: It's crazy town, and it feels like, now there's this

801
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: for me. Well, sure, it's like for anybody. And like now,

802
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: I don't know, like Harry Styles running the Berlin Marathon

803
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: now is just like making me go like, okay, like

804
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: is this a thing that.

805
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: I should do? No, not that you should do, but

806
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: like is.

807
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 3: This the thing that like is like a new pr

808
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 3: thing for certain people to do?

809
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: You know what I think I think it's what we

810
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: were just talking about. I think this is his version

811
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 2: of like, I'm taking the time to find I'm gonna

812
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: run a marathon.

813
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 3: Yea.

814
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're just like, don't you get like, especially when

815
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: people put a lot of things on you, they just

816
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: kind of like want to go, what's for me? Yeah?

817
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: What am I doing for me? Right?

818
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 4: You know?

819
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: And I think that the triathlon for me. I remember

820
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: going down when I was bringing it into a room

821
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: and I looked and I saw that, you know, I

822
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: had like two these my awards weren't there, and there

823
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: was an American Music Award and I had just won for

824
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 1: Best Popline Album the year before the kids were born.

825
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, oh good, because I wanted

826
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 1: them to be proud of me, of their mom. And

827
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm like bringing it in and I'm looking and go, Okay,

828
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: well that was just this year, so that's good. It

829
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: wasn't like I wanted ten years ago or something like that.

830
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: And I think the triathlon was part of that. It

831
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: was I want to be proud of me. Now. They've

832
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 1: never I've told them the story. They could care what

833
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Okay, you ran a Travis

834
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: but you know, one day maybe they'll think of it

835
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: and go, wow, trivel. They're probably getting to six months

836
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: after she had me.

837
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're probably getting to the age now you sort

838
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: of treat your mom with edge because you don't want

839
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: to feel.

840
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: Like you No, no, they think you're the dumbest person

841
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: in the right exactly like saying, well, they have to individuate.

842
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: They have to go they are so dependent on you

843
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: those first ten twelve years that once they get into

844
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: the preteen eleven, twelve, they start going, I can do

845
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: this without you, So they have to make you the

846
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: dumbest person in the room. Have to go, I'm smarter

847
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: than you. You can do that. And they really do

848
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: think they're smarter than you, you know, and that you

849
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: don't get it and that you don't understand anything for

850
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: a little while. And then they get to a point,

851
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: which is I think where we're I'm now with my kids,

852
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,919
Speaker 1: where they start appreciating you again because you're still there

853
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: through all of the things that they threw it, you know,

854
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: in all the ways that they were kind of like eh,

855
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: and they still have a little.

856
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: Bit of that.

857
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they really are proud of you and they

858
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: love you. And appreciate you, and it's it's a beautiful thing.

859
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: But it's stages, you know, just like life, there's stages.

860
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: Do they watch like?

861
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: I guess it's like if you had to put something

862
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 2: in front of them that you're like, I want to watch.

863
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 1: I want you to watch this thing that I did.

864
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: What is that thing? Nothing?

865
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: No?

866
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: No? Did you get nervous about it?

867
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: Oh?

868
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, because they're excited. They came in for the

869
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: premiere of this Yeah, because we live in LA and

870
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: they and I'm doing a movie here and so they

871
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: flew in to go to the premiere tomorrow night. Amazing

872
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: And it's funny. They saw the CBS this morning that

873
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: I did and I talked about, uh, the kids on

874
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: that and Max said, they told me. My dad, who

875
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: was taking care of them, was like, Max said, I'm

876
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: actually looking forward to this one.

877
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: Do you think it's because he knows this is a

878
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: skill set that you like?

879
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: Really, what do you think it is that made him

880
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: say that? I think I think it's the singing, the

881
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 1: dancing and the acting. I think they've seen movies of mine.

882
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: I think they've seen me. They've seen me on tour

883
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: since they were babies. You know, but they they haven't

884
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: seen anything quite like this. And I think both my

885
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: kids are very, very bright. They were both very intelligent

886
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: and kind of aware as this generation is of the

887
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 1: world and all the things going on. And I think

888
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: they realize that this is an important movie. It's the

889
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: representation and inclusion and what it stands for. And I

890
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: think they get proud of things like that. They're like, Oh,

891
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that mom is doing that.

892
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: You know, it matters to them. I know how much

893
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: it mattered to see Rita Moreno in a movie playing

894
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: the gangster's girlfriend. It made me have the life I

895
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: have today, made me realize that I could be a singer, dancer,

896
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: actress right like I could do that. He was Puerto Rican.

897
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: That mattered to me to see that, And it matters

898
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 1: to them to see these things, you know.

899
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: I think the movie is about that. I think Spider

900
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: Woman is about fantasy being escape, fantasy being especially in

901
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 3: times of.

902
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: Political to get through. It helps you get through.

903
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: Fantasy is survival in a time when it's a movie

904
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: about just queerness, and.

905
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: It's about two men who couldn't be more different than

906
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: each other. One is like this, cis gendered revolutionary political

907
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: guy who's at the front of the lines fighting, and

908
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: the other one's a trans window dresser who's effeminate and

909
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: who is like, you know, couldn't be they couldn't be

910
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: on the end of the spectrum, right, And how being

911
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: in this situation, they get to really experience each other's

912
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: humanity and they fall in love and it becomes something beautiful.

913
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: You love somebody you never thought you could love somebody.

914
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: You don't understand their political views, you don't understand their gender,

915
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: you don't understand their preferences, you don't understand anything about

916
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: where they grew up or anything like that, and it

917
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: shows us. It reminds us what manual we wrote in

918
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: that novel back in the day. It reminds us that

919
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: love and humanity and the soul of a person is

920
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: much more important than the shell or their circumstances, or

921
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: where they grew up or what they are right like

922
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: that who they are inside is really the thing that matters,

923
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: and that love can transcend all of that if we

924
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: just allow ourselves to be loving. Yeah, And I think

925
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: that is the important message of the movie.

926
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 3: It's the perfect project for you because you get to

927
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 3: fulfill all these things that have always defined to yours

928
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 3: an artist.

929
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: It's a very relevant.

930
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 6: Film right now, especially for the reasons you said, and

931
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 6: beyond and beyond me and you get to sing cannerin

932
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 6: eb songs. It's like Terrence mcnow, it's like these are

933
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 6: the highest levels of theater and musical theater. It's like

934
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 6: it's the perfect intersection.

935
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: The thing that you said that I said earlier was

936
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: is like what was? It came to me when I

937
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: was ready for it. And honestly, you mentioned John Candor

938
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 1: and Fred Ebb who people know did Chicago and all

939
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: of these great music was the Cabaret and all of

940
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: this and Kiss the Spider Woman. And to be able

941
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 1: to sing a song all of those songs because I

942
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: have ten musical numbers in the movie. Yeah, ten musical

943
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: numbers in the movie. But I also had a brand

944
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: new song of theirs called never You, which they had

945
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: never put in the musical and we wanted it. They

946
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: wanted to. He had saved this song, I guess, and

947
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: it was like, let's use this in there for Armando

948
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: and for Aurora. And when I heard it, I was

949
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: just blown away. Asked like, okay, so, who who's the template?

950
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: Like why do I sing it?

951
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 6: He could?

952
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: They go, no, no, you sing it like you? You

953
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: sing it how you would sing it? You're Aurora, You're

954
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: ingrid Lona. That's when it kind of hit me and

955
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, yeah, all right. I can't

956
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: listen to Cheetah's version. I can't listen to anything, and

957
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 1: all the people who sang it on Broadway. I just

958
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: have to. It's me and I get to do that.

959
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: And that was such a blessing and such a privilege,

960
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy and feel so blessed to have

961
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: been able to do it. And this is a gift.

962
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: It's a real gift.

963
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: It's done so well. And also like, you don't get

964
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: a better director than that. I mean you must have

965
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: been a dream Girls fan too, of course. Yeah, come

966
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: on now, Beauty and the Beast, Yes, even gods and monsters.

967
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: I ever seen that. I don't think I've seen McKellen

968
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: and Brendan Fraser.

969
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 3: Wow, yeah, really good in Chicago and screenplay well obviously.

970
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well Chicago was Rob Marshall, but Bill Cotton wrote it.

971
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: Oh wow, you forget that or I forgot this directed

972
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: it director?

973
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really amazing. I do want to say just

974
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: in terms of like speaking to the like you know,

975
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: the bravery of this movie and how prescient it is.

976
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: There's so many indelible images of you throughout your career,

977
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like I mentioned you just

978
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: as Selena smiling in front of that stadium, et cetera.

979
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 2: I could list on and on, but I do want

980
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: you to know that at the super Bowl when you

981
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 2: put up that Puerto Rican flag, like you just go,

982
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: you just you lifted so many people's spirits, like including

983
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: my own, and I'm obviously not from Puerto Rico, but

984
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 2: just to see your pride, especially in that moment, and

985
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: as you know, conversations happen about you know, bad Bunny

986
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 2: doing the super Bowl coming up, I just like really

987
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: want you to know that that will always stay with

988
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 2: me and so many people that were watching it, and

989
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: especially you being up there with your daughter, that that

990
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: you and Chukira together. I did watch the documentary. I

991
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 2: know there was some strife about like we're going to

992
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: share it like I deserve my own, which you do

993
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: and so did she.

994
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: But I will say that like boom hit.

995
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: Heyyah turn, it made me so happy and I can't

996
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 2: imagine it different.

997
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: But no, that's the great super Bowl halftimes. I think

998
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: it's that thing of like what's for you and how

999
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: it's for you is how it happens when you're ready

1000
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: for it. Like I don't think I was ready ten

1001
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: years before that to do this Super Bowl, And when

1002
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 1: it came around, it was meant for her and I

1003
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 1: to do together. And I see that now, and there's

1004
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: moments where you like you, you get like because we

1005
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: were She's trying to fit her whole discography and I'm

1006
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 1: trying to fit mine into like not fifteen minutes, now

1007
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: seven minutes, and so it was frustrating, it really was.

1008
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it really was

1009
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: meant to be in the way that it happened in

1010
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: such a beautiful way. And you're right that that that

1011
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,439
Speaker 1: for me being able to make those kind of very

1012
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: palatable political statements in a way like where people could

1013
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 1: receive it no matter who you were, whether you were

1014
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: Latino or not, or if you were a woman or not.

1015
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: It did. It was so important for me, and it

1016
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: was important for me because my kid was there singing

1017
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: with me, and all those little girls that were on

1018
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: stage with me that day and representing all the kids

1019
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: in cages and all of the things, and the woman

1020
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: on top of the world, on top of the empire

1021
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: still building, or you know, celebrating the sexuality of being

1022
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 1: on a stripper pull over and what then like look man,

1023
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: no hands in the middle of all of it was

1024
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: very intentional and one of the best things in my life.

1025
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: But as I said, and people may have seen this

1026
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: where I was, I literally just started crying. It just

1027
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: caught me by surprise, thinking about my child kind of

1028
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: yelling back at me, I'm going to live my life.

1029
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: I was just like, I can't, I can't. But it

1030
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: was just it was it was everything. It was everything

1031
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: in a moment of life. Every all of my world's

1032
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: collided in that moment, you know what I mean, from

1033
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: growing up and being you know, a little Porto Rican

1034
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: girl in the Bronx to you know, my work as

1035
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: an artist and my singing and my dancing and being

1036
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: Latin and having a child and being a mother and

1037
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: all of it. Just the pride of all of those

1038
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: things that you can have in one moment and all

1039
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: of the coming together is just it's kind of like

1040
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: a lightning bolt.

1041
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll always you'll always have that, and we'll always

1042
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: have it on YouTube because you know, the gays like

1043
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: we're playing music video. You know about that, right, like

1044
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 2: the gay pregames that happened. You know, they go, what

1045
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 2: is this? So it's just when gay guys get together

1046
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 2: at a pre game before you go out and you

1047
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: put music videos on or a postgame.

1048
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: You know you'll come back and watch all your videos.

1049
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm telling you, Aver, we invite you invited.

1050
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 1: We'll come after Caesar's. Yes, we'll do it in Vegas,

1051
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: in Vegas. That'll be real trouble. Yes, yes, yes, the

1052
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: answer is yes. It's very fun. You'll love it.

1053
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So we've come to I don't think so honey,

1054
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: which is our segment in this podcast where we take

1055
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: sixty seconds, that's one minute. Look it up to rants

1056
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: against something in coult I have something that is specific

1057
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 2: to our guests. Okay, here we go, Here we go.

1058
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many as

1059
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: time starts now.

1060
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: I don't think so honey, that you can wear the

1061
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: color green if you're not this woman, you can't wear

1062
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 2: green at the super Bowl when they had that neon

1063
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: green lights from the waiting for Tonight video and she said,

1064
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: never forget hustlers on the pool. I said, I stood

1065
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,839
Speaker 2: up and I said, she owns that color because it's

1066
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 2: not just I bet you thought jal green. You thought

1067
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 2: about Versace green dress and no, baby, I did the

1068
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 2: Waiting for Tonight music video, the color of the second,

1069
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: the color the six. Hello, it's all coming around.

1070
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: Hello. I saw her show up to the Wicked. I said,

1071
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: that's because Alphabu's green. Alphaba, I have news for you.

1072
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: You get green during this press tour. That's it. That's

1073
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 1: send green returns to our guests. I'm telling you.

1074
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: I have to imagine that our guests can rock every

1075
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 2: single color, but there's nothing like the green. Something pops up,

1076
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: everyone elevates. I feel better about my life. My shoulders

1077
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: drop when I see that Neon green waiting for Tonight.

1078
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 2: A second, let's go Google image, Jennifer Lopez Green, You're

1079
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: gonna get a ton of good shit.

1080
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey.

1081
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 4: And that's what I.

1082
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 2: Do.

1083
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 1: That can I say you're not expected to do that?

1084
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: Mike Drop, he does it.

1085
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 2: You did it.

1086
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: By the way, I've always said green is my lucky color.

1087
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,839
Speaker 1: I don't say it's my favorite color. It's my lucky color.

1088
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: For whatever reason, I'm always in green when everything goes right.

1089
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: Can I tell you something. I believe it's not your

1090
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: favorite color of it.

1091
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: I do love it as a favorite color, but I've

1092
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: always said I'm never saying it's my favorite color. It's

1093
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: my lucky color.

1094
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 3: What's your favorite right now in this moment today?

1095
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: My favorite color today? Today, I would say, are especially

1096
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: after that you can't come through screen? After that, I

1097
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: was like, do I have another color?

1098
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: There?

1099
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 1: No green? Is it? It's? Yeah? For your eyes green,

1100
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: they have a little bit of green, and yeah, beautiful.

1101
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: I mean I just like, I'll just the waiting first

1102
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 2: of all, waiting for tonight. If you do you have

1103
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: a favorite j Lo song? Because mine is waiting for something?

1104
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 1: Is it thank you? And get right? Of course I

1105
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. Okay, it's I mean, there's

1106
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: it's hard to get right. That's one of my favorite songs. Yes,

1107
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: but also just the end of it, it gets like

1108
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: so like wait when the be drops out? Yeah yeah,

1109
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, the dance brave, Yes, I started singing and

1110
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: scream a little bit of it.

1111
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: The mark of like this because the second you hear

1112
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: Waiting for Tonight, like the yeah, and then you're just

1113
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 2: like you know where you're at.

1114
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, because you brought away tonight.

1115
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: I many times will put in the show the remix

1116
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: of Waiting for Tonight. Do you miss the original? I

1117
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,240
Speaker 1: think the original is a classic.

1118
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, that's all I need to It's

1119
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: not about missing it because the remix is sick, like

1120
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: any anything you can do.

1121
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 1: Because I feel like it's more exciting, like the lasers.

1122
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 1: The lasers came from I love.

1123
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, But you can have the

1124
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 2: lasers and with the original, I mean, I feel like,

1125
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: but the original is just it's a classic.

1126
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 3: Yes, but this is but this is your dilemma, Like

1127
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 3: the original is a classic. But that's if you want

1128
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 3: to like really bring it, bring it like down and

1129
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: ground and you know why, people like really lean in

1130
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: and listen, you say. If you're playing the remix, we're

1131
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 3: all jumping and singing along right right. It depends on

1132
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 3: what you want.

1133
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 1: What's happening, Yeah, what section of the show it's in there?

1134
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 3: You go, Yeah, I don't think that's helpful. We're not

1135
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: really giving you like a decision.

1136
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to know because Benny and I my longtime manager,

1137
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,720
Speaker 1: godfather to my kids and one of my best friends

1138
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: and my brother Icon. He we always argue about that.

1139
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: We argue it because he always wants me to do

1140
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: the original and I never do the urgent. I always

1141
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: do the remix live because I just feel like it's

1142
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: more exciting.

1143
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: Sure, and He's like, You've probably had every conversation.

1144
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm thinking, I don't know in my

1145
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: in this new era of mine where I'm making the

1146
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: new show and creating something really new, but maybe I'll

1147
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: go back to that.

1148
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: Is there a way to make it very dramatic and

1149
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 2: musical theater in the beginning and then it picks in.

1150
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's all kinds of things. I've done a lot

1151
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: of different things waiting for tonight. When I opened the

1152
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: American Music Awards, I sag waiting for Tonight. I did

1153
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: it kind of like a legato, very slow this, and

1154
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: then we went into that big medley. There's a different

1155
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different ways to do it. Yeah.

1156
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: I also want to say, in terms of favorite songs

1157
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: before Bowen does, I don't think so, honey, I would

1158
00:55:54,239 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 2: sing no, my honest, and I would just pretend and

1159
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 2: I would just kind of give what I thought.

1160
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: Ye words, what it is the feeling of it, Like

1161
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: I can't.

1162
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: Have you singing gibberish anymore because you know, it was

1163
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 2: on all the time in the house.

1164
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 1: I love that album. It's like the K pop thing.

1165
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: It's like I was making the words up.

1166
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 3: It's like you don't know necessarily what's being communicated, but

1167
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: it transcends the language.

1168
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: No, it's such a beautiful song. I love that song.

1169
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm talking about you know these songs in general

1170
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 3: that are in English.

1171
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, No, I knew exactly

1172
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: what was It's like a bad Bunny thing. You don't

1173
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: need to understand Spanish to be rocking with Bad Bunny

1174
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: all the time. He's wonderful to look at, but first

1175
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: of all, he's just a cultural phenomenon, right, Like he's

1176
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: one of those artists like you say that transcends everything,

1177
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: that transcends color, race, It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter,

1178
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: and it doesn't matter. If you like good music, then

1179
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 1: you like bad money. You will enjoy the super Bowls.

1180
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, Most Photos is one of the great albums.

1181
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 3: Amazing ye have the last time decade, I would say, yeah,

1182
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: I love I love that. Okay, I'll bring it down. No, no, no,

1183
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 3: there's different ways to do it. Okay, I'm gonna I'm

1184
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 3: gonna do a different way.

1185
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: Okay, do it a different way. This is this is

1186
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: pop culture. This is just life. This is this is life.

1187
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: This is life. This is based on life like much,

1188
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: this is bowing things. So, honey, his time starts now.

1189
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 3: I don't think so, honey. The humiliating task of making

1190
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,959
Speaker 3: sure shampoo and conditioner bottles finished at the same time,

1191
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 3: that you keep them evenly full, because you.

1192
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 4: Got me acting like Dexter's laboratory in the steam.

1193
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 1: We're acting like a damn mad.

1194
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 4: Scientists trying to make sure these two things finish at

1195
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 4: the same time. What is this sexual intercourse. I gotta

1196
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 4: make sure there they finished at the same time.

1197
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: Is what you're not gonna have me do is buy

1198
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 3: some two for one parabens sludge.

1199
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: I don't want, no, But this is the thing.

1200
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 3: Why haven't we figured out as a society put the

1201
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 3: conditioner in smaller bottles, or to sell two sizes of

1202
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 3: one or the other, depending on what you go through

1203
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 3: faster finishing them at the same time is impossible. Meanwhile,

1204
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 3: by sitting over there, minding its own business, staying iconic,

1205
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 3: I keep my side of the street clean, it says.

1206
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: But shampoo and condition this is a toxic relationship. I

1207
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,479
Speaker 1: will never ever ever be then.

1208
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: Being in the shower as hell every day for some people,

1209
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 3: because guess what, I feel like I'm failing in life

1210
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 3: if I can't keep this.

1211
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 1: And that's for a minute.

1212
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: You need a three in one, you need a three

1213
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: shampoo conditioner. I've never understood the problem with three and one.

1214
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: People are like, no, it's it compromises on so much.

1215
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 2: A conditioner is a totally different things.

1216
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: You got to moisturize, it's a totally different thing. Shampoo

1217
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: is a cleaner. Conditioners like moisturizing. Yeah, it's different.

1218
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 2: This is the sound of a hairdresser, Yes, hadresser. I

1219
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 2: don't even know this stuff.

1220
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 1: I know talk about volume. There you go, and I'm

1221
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: a drift over here. No, Well, thank you for your service.

1222
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 2: I feel like we're not talking about this enough kind clearly.

1223
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 2: And also the word parabin being mentioned. The fact that

1224
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 2: words like which is the fact that words like that

1225
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 2: gist up here, come on that's my bestie.

1226
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: That's my bestie. Are you guys bestie?

1227
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 4: Yes?

1228
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: Are you bestI you didn't just get thrown together? No

1229
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: each other since.

1230
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1231
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've known each other since like eighteen nineteen. Yeah

1232
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 2: did you ever date?

1233
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: No? No, just I know everyone thinks so just asking,

1234
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 1: just trying to get all.

1235
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: The we we never really get, like directly asked the question,

1236
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: but no I did.

1237
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: I just asked you. You're allowed to ask journalist j

1238
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: low And now, by the way, I hate if you

1239
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: asked me. Don't ask me.

1240
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 3: We're not out well, we're not going to ask. Don't worry,

1241
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 3: but we are going to ask you to do. And

1242
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: I don't think somebody, are you right?

1243
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do?

1244
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 3: You have something will come here. I want you to

1245
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 3: do like a legato. I don't think someoney just like this,

1246
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 3: keep it in this tone and speed. I just want

1247
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 3: you to like ruminate, okay, Jennifer Lopez is I don't

1248
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 3: think so. Any times starts now, I don't think so.

1249
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: When people come to me knowing what my.

1250
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: Schedule is and how crazy it can be, and not

1251
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: fill me in on all the details, they leave out

1252
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 1: the details. They are trying to be helpful. They're trying

1253
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: to be respectful, they're trying to be, you know, the

1254
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: favorite person, but they're not.

1255
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 4: They're not.

1256
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: They really make my life stressful and full of anxiety. No,

1257
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not fun in that way. I really

1258
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: much rather know everything ahead of time. Be honest with me.

1259
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is be honest with me. I want

1260
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 1: you to be honest with me. You don't have to

1261
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: lie to me. You don't have They lie to celever.

1262
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: Do that. Tell me the truth. I can take it.

1263
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: I can take it. Just tell me, tell me this

1264
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: is what's gonna happen. This is what you need to know.

1265
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: Have me prepped, Have me prepared. I like rehearsal. I

1266
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: will rehearsed. I want to be prepared. I want to

1267
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 1: do it. I have the discipline. You can. You can

1268
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: be honest with me. Just be honest with me. I

1269
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: hate when people are not honest, and that's what I think.

1270
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: So yes, and we will never lie to you.

1271
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes I do get the sense that when people get

1272
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 2: to a certain level, yes, yeah.

1273
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll kind of like I don't know, if they

1274
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: get worried or like they don't want to be the

1275
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: person who delivers the bad news or whatever and it's

1276
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: like it's okay, or.

1277
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 3: They're holding onto the information and making sure they want

1278
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 3: to they package it right and present it.

1279
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: Just tell me, are you someone that I like, straight

1280
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: straight I love? It's not like I no, So what

1281
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: do you say, Spit it out? Literally, I'm like, spin

1282
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: it out. I want you to feel free of this. Yes, yes, yes,

1283
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 1: On that note.

1284
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 3: On that note, I think the reason we love you,

1285
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 3: when people love you is because you are an excellent communicator.

1286
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 3: As we're talking about communication, it's it's I think it's

1287
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 3: that's your through line as well. You know how to

1288
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 3: connect with an audience. Thank you so much for communicating

1289
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 3: with us, Thank you for coming on this.

1290
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Speaker 2: Show, and thank you for the years of joy and

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Speaker 2: entertainment that you have brought. Because you really are I mean,

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Speaker 2: like they throw around the word icon, but you are

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Speaker 2: because you you back it up and like just the

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Speaker 2: amount of times I've like left with a big smile

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Speaker 2: on my face after seeing you do what you do

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Speaker 2: is tell us.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys so much. You guys are fantastic.

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Speaker 1: This has this has been the best part of my

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Speaker 1: press story.

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Speaker 2: Clip it clip it, the clip it and send it

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Speaker 2: out to the masses and always rooting for you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We end every episode with the song will you play

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Speaker 2: a song in front of the guests, even our recording

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Speaker 2: artist guests.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, picking if you had the game? I picked

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Speaker 1: the key to me if I give you me.

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Speaker 2: If you want to hear that, listen to the six

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Speaker 2: do yourself a favor.

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Speaker 1: Get on the sex and listen to the sex. I

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Speaker 1: might go out of my way tonight. Ride it authentically.

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Speaker 1: You guys are amazing. That's culture.

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Speaker 3: This is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players

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Speaker 3: in the iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Podcasts, created and hosted by Matt Rogers and bowen Ye.

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Speaker 2: Executive produced by Anna Hasnier and produced by Decca.

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Speaker 1: Ramos, Edited and mixed by Doug By and our music

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Speaker 1: is by Henry Berski